#📨・meta-help
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Vero double rot don't need dlt?
Nuke told me he got a lot faster with dlt tho
No?
Is it because he use nanami, vero and vera?
Why would u need dlt u get more than enough orbs
Nope
Its different for dante, vero and sss wata

Unless you’re doing double fast rot you wont need dlt
Ok r2 for now then
also is ur vero ss0 or ss3
Red orbs turn into white orbs
White orbs turn into blue orbs when holding yellow
Ss0 r2
shakes cottie?
I'll reach 22m+ score if i can hit close to 10m burn 
Yep
If i use guin, i prob couldn't utilize it since my homeless is ss3
Shakes cottie on both dante and vero right?
Also no hypertune mats
And wata is dv alphon?
Yes
Ok

We're soon enough going to experience massive Hypertune materials shortage the moment this version ends
True

I don't have any ht mats left as well 
look at me for having patton build and cottie build for wz as experiments
although its a tad bit better
And how did it go?
I experimented many sets as well over the time 
Not worth to ht I think then
ss0 selena btw
I haven't even make Veronica burn set to be honest 
I made
4 dv 2 eins
4 dv (same dv) 2 keats
4 shakes 2 cottie
You Hypertune eins on Veronica?
Wanted to test 4 cottie 4 keats but im htless

Makes me wonder if my Dante starter can be improved for higher score
I dont remember if it was eins or guin
Maybe I can rlly hit 13m
Hmmm
Also putting Dante from yellow to blue made me go +1 wave
Blue Dante much better for qte timing with Vero
the new liv is the anniversary patch right?
Is there nobody that uses Lingya in Burn team with Dante?
It's Dante Startrail and Veronica right?
Not on burn
Some one made it work with pyro 
It's hero tho
Wait
But Pyroath is a fraud
hax
Yo @pine slate how much 333 dante vero wata should score on hero?
Dante wata Vero
Idk I score 12.6m with 332 Dante wata Vero
Ik Vero is huge at sss so prolly close to 18m?
But my Epitaph is still only 5*

What
I still haven't bother getting his weapon yet

Fair enough
Wasnt you that deleted? 
no i didnt
I’ll try tk get wata sig and then we can test
why would i delete my yoke 
Maybe you
No idea 
one of these snek is lurking 

Oki
Why u can't get wata sig now
Clearly u whel 
Can get sss but no sig 
My back tried to copy bili 18 only to get 15

Backing up for liv 
In case she is broken

Ok
Wtf
uhm how do I tell this
thanks dazzal will test wata
u dont tell, u go pull now
Got it

1 pull 
make it 55
Ew no
The humble 20%:
u get free reso though 
Free reso for sss 5* wata 
balz
it wasnt 
True

HUGEEEEEEEE
You're testing bricks?
infinite loading

actually yes 
noway bro testing without DD
let him cook
I don't know
i bet the shredder field
no paking way rai cooking
r3 or bust is the only reason 
ye im coking ur ass
@noble zinc I feel like wata deal significant enough dmg for 6 blaze 
resonant echo sounds good
Then again, pyro and Dante team different
i think r2 is good enough, or just dd 
not worth reso though 
fair enough

Double d*ck
queso knows 
tank resos are bad excluding DD
Heloo, I'd appreciate it if you could remove the profile you're usuwu, as it's being used withouowow my permission. It's also been edited in a way that disrespect the ouwuwuriginal artist's work. Thanks in advance for your understanding and couwuoperation.
full credit to you know who
i dont wanna get outed as reposting without crediting
True true
NO HT MATERIALS A
rip
Not here to be appreciated anyways
go buy
ok im done
excelent idea
hi done
@pine slate what do u think abt 2 dante 2 vero 1 wata
I'm noticing on perfect rot there's actually significant swap time left between vero and dante
Enough to fit 1 wata ult if I dalao hax
Don't see why u wouldn't swap if u have time

smth is wrong then, record
@pine slate
u can 100% go higher
I know
two tapped with
Also vero sss you can do (with 3 wata)
wata start
dante enter 1 rot
vero 2 rot
dante 2 rot
vero 2.5 rot (first full rot, second fast rot, third use ult 1 and leave field)
seems to be the exact timing and has enough orbs
333???
Ok brb
vero 1 rot?
what kinda 1 rot are u doing that takes 12s
hmm
https://youtu.be/cYxiBtSOMDM?si=9mCtAuBONyrT_Luw is dazzal being slower for vero rot on purpose
Dante
SSS R1(GA)
4 Shakes 4 Cottie(6 atk + 6 ult)
Epitaph
SSS R2(DD + RE)
4 Alphonse 4 Davinci(6 atk + 6 class)
Aegis
SS0 R2(GS+SAR)
4 Guin 4 Cottie(6 atk + 6 class)
To line up cd
ok the thing with this is
i dont think u did the 3p on swap out for vero to be able to do that again next rot
wata seemed like he ate a bit into dante field time
a bit of time is already gone since vero ult 2 so igni duration ticking down
ya
I don't have it down yet but MAYBE you can 3p and get that
That's what I meant by dalao hax to make it work
Let me find his vid
cuz i dont want too much time between vero ult 2 and wata swap in
i'll try that tho
It just occurred to me because on my runs I was too fast
Then there's an awkward second of vero just standing there
for me usually when that happens i jsut save her last ult 2
and use it when dante comes off cd
Interesting
I could also not dodge her blues
Practice and delay so swap lines up perfectly
There's a bit of buffer time where swap cd isn't done but you can still tap and it swaps when cd ends
What reso does aegis use?
Top atk +15
Bottom class skill
Alright, thank you!
S+ wata or sss6 wanshi or save? I have 91k+ vouchers rn
I got to wave 49 but it didnt register for some reason 
The text even appeared
I think that one extra wave is possible or two with shenanigans
Dont know how to though


Save and wait for luna updates
U in hero rite
It might be detrimental for u actually
If wata swaps into dead wave ur gonna waste some time
ye
Not me
U piloting top 6 ib accs
I just know what Dazzal used
Definitely dalao
Top 100 real soon dw
Top 6 isnt even 1% for eu bro this is so bullsht
Wait what
Lmfaoo
Eu 13 players playerbase
Need to get nuke to try this I dunno a lot of ppl who can do the 1s wata ult
Wonder if khaled fixed his burn
EU deadge holy
Wchat 50 diff languages

Already like that
me speak no americano
No hablo espanol
How to say I don’t speak Chinese in English
no bing chilling
抱歉,我不会说华文
Or something like that
Mi ni hau china lang li
Can Vero SS actually beat Vera SSS in Burn team? Someone told me that.
I have Dante SSS and Nana S+
no
Honestly at this point, if you don't find people that have the same exact investment, your only way to know which one is better is to test right away while given the opportunity to
its just no

vero either skip or sss
Veroskip is real
With my very specific invest, it seems to be the case
Fraud can't even improve Phys score over SSS Alisa
They should have seen it coming that Veronica buff is gonna be mid when SSS rank Echo with Leap and even 6 star weapon is entirely free
A 0 Black card character is better than premium S rank

Well if she were free I can't gap other people burn score
How many ppl even play in eu

Ban pilots 
Ban pilots 
pilots the ban! 
the ever present burn affix: 
And in ib maybe 250(?)
Ok then im not a eu player🥀

i only have nanami ss0 for ignition

i did not play when dante banner was up
Really?
Well atleast she's good for Ignition
For us, people with SSS0 Alisa but are f2p - Veronica in Physical is not that good
But ignition is still there
But for those without SSS0 Alisa, then Veronica shines
Veronica worth it for Dante skipper if they think Solo Startrail wasn't enough 


Eu 

Albeit I haven't done IB in 6 weeks

What about in IB global i think it's the same too
Pls do IB I want blue title
Isn't it better if I don't do it then?
go chase blue title at sea its easier
You get boosted
Whos on top of us
Nobody malds ib on eu aside from 3 people
i just do quick run and logout
7 to be top% needs what, 700 players in ib?
Ye
Did you see bosses this week. 350 people in eu ib at max
We already had this a couple of weeks ago
Bot info 😔😭😔
but is not timestoppable (i think)
weird ass unit fr
first unit to have ss3 ability and shred field
Should I get Ishmael or Luna's signature weapon first?
ish
where can i get dante and virgil?
From dmc5
U can wait for the collab to come to Global soon
in the library
when is that
Ezra the most reliable mod said it's on December, omg hype
is that true
True fr fr
I thought dmc wasn't coming bsck

Haha got it
This sticker is here too
its always been here


what tier list
U mean team list?
traditional tier lists dont work for this game
that image there is the best we got
ask here if you wanna know what to pull/ do
Yea that's what I was gonna ask
What to pull 😭
Nothing special unfortunately
I started recently,super recently
I'll grind the rest 10 hours there so what to pull on?
- go on the huaxu website
- select your region
- player lookup
- enter your ID
- share the link here
lets us look at everything you have, so we can make proper decisions
Newbie banner: Nanami Startrail/Vera Geiravor
Gacha banner: Only pull newest S rank from Theme Event Construct, not Fate nor Arrival
I
Have
Nothing
Tanku
All new S ranks are meta, simple enough
Okah
And u can afford all as F2Ps
That's why I started
Mum won't let me gamble on fricking genshin or wuwa
Hoyoverse is greed as hell
Good, although this game isn't gonna be easy 
thats a lie
this game is a snoozefest if you arent malding for highscores 
Who to prioritize for character pull? Or should I go for weapons now?
Easier than limbus
I'm a god in limbus so this will be easy
depends on whose weapon youre missing
but pull bianca
Early game is still super tough
But the endgame is quite easy
Making the wrong decision and the game will feel impossible
Like?
Summoning wrong? Or smth else?
Pulling wrong banner & Investing in bad units
Example Alpha CW is one of the biggest newbie bait
Already have 5 star weapons for Qu Shukra, Watanabe Epitaph, Wanshi Lucid Dreamer, Luna Oblivion
Parhelion
Feral
6 star weapons for
Vergil
Dante
Nanami Startrail
Lilith new one
Your account is just like my Alt, same units even 
Better grab both Vero and Bianca tbh
your priorities are Bianca, Veronica, Ishmael wep, bianca wep, vero wep
in that order
I believe he forgot to say his Vera also has no Sig in which case her sig would have higher prio than Ish
oh yea thats true then
Or may be he has it? Idk
Don't have one for Vera
Was still looking for advice if I should add more teams or invest my current ones.
My alt acc
Follow my lead and u too can achieve the same
https://huaxu.app/ap/players/20855703/characters
Explore the 43 characters of Lilly from the Asia-Pacific server of Punishing: Gray Raven.
Ayt thanks man
I appreciate it
Well, xav already gave u a solid goal though, nothing change

still 
dv lucia strat when
nah prob not with 2.3
that qte nuke saves me a lot

Go break waves 55
Then u can one shot every wave after, very satisfying 
I'm broke 
w55 on darkflow

imagine if we hero for df week PepeRunCryTrip
skul isu smh
and then df never comes back
just spam timestop
df/light 3 weeks in a row 

pillarlao rorrythink
wuthering rais
or better, just stop playing 
ew hero badge 
does veronica ever use DLT?
owner of account is super casual ok MeiHigh
in no 3s tank igniton team when she 3rots
wth 
no 3s tank? so if I have 3s tank it's just 2 rot
but i have 3s tank ignition team and she does 3 rot
eu should easily delete hero badge right? just dodge the top players, theres not many 
you see dis guy wants to join reset every week WorryTiredOfYourShit
ok you take over then 
lmaoo wz addict smh
ok maybe can wait a few hours next week 
just not dead on reset
3rd day
after that rng
what's recommended for veronica, 4 shakes and 4 keats or 4 cottie for ignition?
cottie
4 Keats if you want to do brain dead 2 ult rot, Cottie if you want to do 3 ult rots
hi please change your pfp
it's disrespectful to the artist i commissioned
but above I was told I only need 3 rot if I don't have 3S tank 
so which one is it
3 ult rot possible even within 3S tank swap timers, so if you want to do 3 ult then go Cottie.
i was talking outta my ass sorry
it's fine I know the feeling 
dont think there is any place for keats at all
Dante pulse and Daren 
Keats for casual players that just want easy rotations.
332 223 111
the cottie rotation seems pretty easy enough
and one more question
does vero use yellow in her rotation? it is quicker but it seems it deals less damage
dante wata/nana?
non SSS does literally for her first rot on first swap
vero nana vera
2x blue and yellow
I meant after ult 1
she uses yellow after ult1 yes
oh yeah my bad I meant pressing
not holding it
I do 3 red and then hold yellow
but in phys her rot is only 2 yellow
so I was wondering how that compares in ignition
in that setup vero does 2.5 rot and 3 rot subsequently
first swap she taps yellow 2x then hold yellow
subsequent swap she does tap yellow 1x, hold yellow then tap yellow 2x
i have a run recorded for it, pretty much same invest
give me 
yippeee
SSS0 Nanami Startrail R3 SS cub | 4 Herschell 4 Cottie
SSS0 Veronica Aegis R2 SS cub | 4 Shakespeare 4 Cottie
SS3 Vera Geiravor R3 S+ Lingya | 4 DaVinci 4 Guinevere
#pgr #punishinggrayraven #veronica
u can aim for 16m

its pretty high scoring
yeah but I am pretty dumb
also I see you swap after 1st rot with nana
until then u have to learn it
no its just the default
1 rot nana to ignite the combustion and let vero do her thing
Yomm made a video about it
there are some variant of 2 or 3 rot nana starter but i dont think u are ready for that yet

ah okay
I was asking since when it was dante it was a 2 rot or something
u are asia right

cause asia has bear on wave 1 so nanami is guaranteed to get 20 stacks
idk about other server, if it doesnt have bear on wave 1 u might need to change something
really
yes LMAO
change for vero's overlap ping
why is asia bear tankier

fluc higher I guess
371.2 here
EU Legend

not really, unless you are pushing story
suffering from success
story doesnt use serum after certain chapter too
so if im doing story slowly im good
kaleido's iirc
sure
thanks mate !
idk what chapter it is but it was mentioned after ch. 20 or something
next patch we also have the speedrun mode for story iirc
what?????
I've never heard of this
i saw a thread about it
Can

what is that
bro I keep tapping instead of holding ult 
i think u just do the battle

with ur own omniframes, no story -bullshit
next patch grinding out story then
LES GO
Bring it on, give me the hardest battle as long as I don't have to use forced solo unit
I hated that they restrict the used character

b-but story immersion 
Kill story immersion
How is dæmonisaa free?
I'm here to KILL and then read
Not to play slop units
And also
you do some quests, you get free pulls on her special banner and thus she is completely free to obtain along with her sig and cub
Free from Insatiable banner
Wb crimson weave lucia?
Do not spend a single gacha currency on it, u can get exactly 60 free tickets
Why she not on da list
Cause she's about to die soon

"Free money trick" mfs
<@&595893856554319873> hacked account spreading scam here, most likely in all other channels too
@unborn hound mods get him

Why khaled though
can someone give me a good dps & support build for ishmael?
he salty i got his ass banned
As in, being replaced by a new unit
As if she wasn't already dead af
4 sothoth 4 cottie or just 2 cottie if no sig
4 dv 2 eins / 2 gloria if qte tank
4 dv 2/4 guin if qte amp
Hm, what's the best element then overall in every typa battles?
U need all, there's no best element
Off element has penalty
thank you
hold on, does memory placement still matter?
U can ignore the entirely of the right side until endgame demands it
replace aegis with geiravor
Why
thank again
np
I'll grind for dæmonisaa or wtv to call her
Her design is majestic
And also
How to get more black card/pulls faster?
Is Luna, Ishmael and Lilith better if they're all S rank without Sig?
just call her lilith 
so how does pressing yellow work with veronica? I don't get it
it does nothing unless I do that before pinging the reds
and when do I do the press and when the hold version
its tap on first rot, hold on 2nd rot tap again on 3rd rot
tap yellow she will slam
is that constant?
or is there something to watch out for
and if I want to get ult 1 is there any reason to not just do a blue ping? you mentioned pressing yellow before ult 1 aswell
you mean pressing yellow?
yes
alright cool beans
before ult1, 2x blue is enough to enter ult1
yeah
and subsequently only need 1x blue as she does warm up on the previous rot
I see you cancel nanami's yellow prematurely then follow up with a 3-ping, is that faster than doing the opposite?
by opposite I mean waiting out her little skate around the enemy
does she need DLT for this cancel or do you get enough orbs
need
does vero do any dodge cancels in her rot? I usually don't try it with new frames because they have uncancellable attacks or ones that give energy

Pressing red pings turn them into white orbs
White orbs can be consumed holding your yellow orb and they turn into blue orbs
The difference is basically you get orbs or no
You cant do all of the rots to be fast rots since you’ll run out of orbs
can you use vero for nihil? with ignition of course
oh wait nvm she is inherently physical 
curse kuro
what about nanami
well actually nah nanami is bad nvm
yaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaa
no gen 3 amp
Need SSS tank/Amp
she is
Apparently SSS Tank better
then it's decided
what is ur ish rank
3S
Oh nvm
then use wata
and do I rotate wata aswell or no
i think so
like how does he compare to luna
his rot is giga fast anyway
wdym
is it just 1 or 2
in terms of damage
well luna is a nihil unit so she will do more damage
luna been benched for a while now just because her damage is dismal
and wata is holding dv....or shakes
or maybe I was feeding on misinfo
it wont be after luna leap
okay so just to clarify, am I rotating everyone, or just wata and ish in this team?
Even then, regular ele unit has like 50% lower dmg in Nibil
ur luna is ss0 ?
So u need Luna anyway
yes
should I use luna's sig memory set and cottie?
probably yea with eins
bet
the only thing i can think of where ss0 luna uses dv is if u are using 3S ishmael and 3S vera
cause vera does -shitton of damage compared to other alternatives
I wanna get 3S vera eventually
she is just strong by nature and then qte reset on top of that 
yea im just missing 1 copy for her 3S
now the 1 million dollar question: who's starter
wata or luna?
lmfao 43 million
someone scored 10 million in my nihil zone, idk how that is possible
Its Calamitylao
Hm yeah ofc
I didn't beat him 
hi whats the best build for ignition veronica with main dps dante
Invest
Wait why is ayla there
i mean in terms of memory set
even ss3 ish can use luna as qte bot if sss vera
it's the 2nd guy in the nihil zone from top 3
I used a different setup (luna, wata, ish)
ye i mean for him specifically
oh
i need to build new cottie set for luna, i already swapped it to different unit lmao
s rank with 5* weapon lol
i wonder how ss3 ish ss3 luna and sss vera will rotate
Nanami, veronica and dante
Veronica - 4 da vinci 2 eins 2 guin harmo
Atk class
Nanami, wata and veronica
Veronica - 4 shakespeare 2 cottie 2 cottie harmonized
Atk sig
well ss3 luna does nothing for now
what does atk class and atk sig mean
oh wait resonance
whoops didnt notice
thanks for the help
Sorry but your pfp is making me break💀
Its the resonances on the memories
You can spend simulated battlefield currency there
You can get many types of resonances: basic attack, red orb, etc
Its any +atk on top and class skill on bottom
And any +atk on top and signature skill on bottom
truly so peak a devil may cry
This is what it means
yeah i figured it out, it was just so shortcutted that i couldnt catch on the first time
Fair enough mb
I usually explain it like this because people tend to get it
I just dont shortcut the memory names too much
ahh i see
ig thats how things go in a server full of vets huh
well tbh ive also been kinda a veteran for a bit too, only in game tho not in this server
Im not a vet though 
I just talk here kinda frequently
Fair enough
even tho my brain is zaza I still make it into defending
but there is literally a guy so eepy his score is 0 so this might change
oh lol
thank @still moat lao 
how many% is the luna qte leap
4k last time I checked
thank you nitelj too
No idea if it changed
You’re welcome ❤️
4000%?
yep
how much did u got
wtf
It was a nuke
well my ignition can still be better, it's 12 m atm
They mean it 
What invest?
thats 4x the normal ss3
pretty okay
can get 16-17m
maybe if I mald hard enough
Dm
bruh only 1000 not 4000
“Gains off field damage 4000%”
that is swap out not qte
Either this is qte related or its the departed state that dante, vergil and bianca have

Okah.....
i mean post leap ofc
nice nickname bro

U 12m burn yet
i didnt touch wz today
Bro what am I doing wrong with Ishmael SS3 rotation?
I do blue 3 ping into hold dodge cancelled by ult 1 then yellow orb then 1 red 3 ping hold dodge then I have no energy for ult 2. 😭
did my dailies and hopped back to the finals
i hate wz mald ngl
getting max score in ppc is so much easier
wz is rng
I hopped back to the mid terms
Managing and understanding 3 characters always vs one or two, some of the time
though PPC is still hard execution wise since some kills you cannot be slow at all, wz to some extent you can get away with that stuff if you can make up for it later by abusing timestop
I mean there is more to pay attention to so surely it would require more effort, but less restarts if you understand what to do
Is white alter much better at SS?
Bro nobody answered me 
I know SS makes them stronger but I am talking dramatic difference between her S and SS versions
Ss is a baseline for everyone
Probs cause no one present using ss3 Ishmael Dx I don't know how to play it either
Idk a single unit that has a functional rotation at base s
brother what is that rotation
To get max collapse points
you shouldn't need that
Can watch Rydle for ss3 Ishmael, just search in YT: Rydle PGR
Ss3 dante
hold lemme show u rot
It's more damage
Fk whel
no i mean your rotation not the max points
It's literally what her SS3 gives
And Selena* I did say mostly xD those weren't intended 😅
Wtf ss3 sel
Bianca I have ss3 on global also from random trying
Ye got lucky, I usually try few pulls on strong unit cause if you get lucky it's quite worth
she feels fine at S for me, I have a choice of either getting her at SS or Veronica
Ss is free tho
i mean the 3ping for blue not the hold dodge
Just get ss from ppc
Going to like 30 pulls+ for ss3 on f2p acc is not a good idea Dx so I stop at like 10 or so depending how bad I want it
skulls are limited, so someone has to go first
Ss later then
I don't speak Chinese
All units are way better at SS
Some are more functional then others at base S, but SS will literally double a units damage practically
neither do i
but im not blind i can see what he does
You want to prioritise since someone characters don't need it as badly as others, depending which team has most value
yes but the order matters right? so who first? veronica, white alter or knight nanami? I forgot she wasn't SS either
No SSS+ = Bricked
Like SS CW or feral is bad since they are old and qte slaves for Nanami in light, so they don't need it at all
Nana knight should SS first, she is used in many teams
Also new light attacker soon, Bianca would be next prior then Vero
gah damn it I got frustrated and made White alter SS first,
should've waited more
why are you forcing ching chong language on that guy who is just asking for help?
Have u done ppc achievements
I don't think so, where are those located?
Ultimate ppc
where?
SS Nanami > SS newest character > SS old characters with the remaining skulls
this choice screen?
Ye
Unless it's nuke inputs I'm Ok with bing chilling video 
I was told not to do it yet, what combat power do I need to get the achivements for ultimate?
It's bp don't call it cp 
U just need to get a certain score on bosses
Ur first week of ultimate ppc should give u enough to ss like 2 units
Just by doing outlier
well sunday is coming around again so I can pick ultimate
but man that time thing for paincage, who the heck reach 100% on that score?
Assuming u can get 580k, which isn't hard with new units
the fastest clear I got was around 12 seconds and that still didn't give me max points
No one gets max score
Even 0s clear not max score
But u can't get 0s clear anyways cuz boss intro
that is stupid asf
Name of the game
Do not enter though
Outlier rewards are permanent
Weekly isn't
And if you don't reach atleast 1.55m you will lose skulls compare to staying Advance
The loss is triple during this triple patch
Ye see the boss before entering
I've seen newbies who couldn't even beat Knight diff 
Literally run out of time
I remember entering ppc with shorthalt when I first started and got 480k
Good times
idk i forgot to check
what should i even write
Uhh
what server is this from send
done
Every vid comment "u hawt bbgurl"
Easy algorithm
how will I know when I'm ready?
I have white alter sig and wait a dang minute I didn't harmonize it
Depends on the bosses
i dont understand your gibberish
you talking to me?
isn't veronica a fresh frame? so you spend on her?
she no feesh
or does feesh mean fish?
she dragoon
yes
so your waiting on whats her name again? lamia?
Guys, I have these scores.
Which zone can be improved?
Bp doesn't matter

I wanna get the second place
wat fire invest
What are ur invests
thanks for the info
wdym bp doesn't matter?
To me looks like everything can be improved 
SSS0R1 Dante, SSS8R3 Wata, SS0R2 Vera
K whel
Vera or Vero
Vera
Ohh that's fire?
I have SS3 Vero
And Ignition
Ok ye both ur fire and igni can be improved

try donut qte reso memo reso



