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[chilly glade]

with signature weapon, there is a weapon harmony you can add 2 extra more memory

[buoyant hornet]

8.4m burn LMAO

[unborn hound]

with vera?

[buoyant hornet]

Yeah

[unborn hound]

anyone know what are the multipiers for affix team and their parent element in affix wz?

i think parent element is like 1x ?

[young badge]

how tf

why im not even touching that wantap

[clever gulch]

Damn. That's not really beginner friendly I assume ?

[unborn hound]

it isnt

[clever gulch]

[teal kelp]

Does Vera run dps or dv in darkflow?

[young badge]

we dont know

yet

[simple dew]

darkflow doesnt run

[unborn hound]

can someone explain to me why is 2 wilde used instad of 4 cottie on pyro ion

[unborn hound]

likely dv

[unborn hound]

her dmg is nuked for dark flow

[muted zenith]

wheen is the next stream for pgr?

[young badge]

like a week before patch end?

[carmine reef]

Just slightly better

[unborn hound]

but how tho

[carmine reef]

? The numbers just work out that way

[unborn hound]

doesn't cottie give a larger buff

[carmine reef]

4 cot is 15% edb

[unborn hound]

oh wait i get it now

[clever gulch]

do the slots for memory even matter nowadays ? back in my day i believe it did, although it was a fairly small difference

[unborn hound]

very small difference and hardly matters

[muted zenith]

and when is the enxt beta?

[unborn hound]

zex do u have sss alisa?

[karmic anvil]

||still would be nice to stick to the minmax answer cuz it gets awkward if you randomly place them||

[unborn hound]

i would if the bot was online

so they could minmax easily

[muted zenith]

how did the bot determine how to min max?

[karmic anvil]

cant we just do it by ourselves

[sharp fern]

Just check grayravens
Surely they won't fck up something as simple as memory stats right

[karmic anvil]

[fading kestrel]

it compared the attack value of each memory when they are at max level

[unborn hound]

looked at the atk of both memories and give the one with lesser attack top and the other bottom

[carmine reef]

Yes but what is the relation

[unborn hound]

none

Im asking if she is better than vero ss0

[carmine reef]

I haven't had the time to even touch wz yet

I'm so busy all week

My guess is that it will be a marginal increase

[simple dew]

did u check lilick

[autumn belfry]

Can I skip Veronica and get my Bianca to ss3?

[unborn hound]

i did its like 600% for 1 ult.....

no wonder nana is sub dps

[young badge]

finally alpha decided to cooperate

[simple dew]

[unborn hound]

actually its 572%

[simple dew]

just 3x less than normal

[young badge]

man all that jst for 20k increase

[fading kestrel]

i mean, yes you absolutely can
Should you? no, never

[unborn hound]

and this is with ult reso

[fading kestrel]

bianca ss3 is very underwhelming, and veronica is still useful

[autumn belfry]

Ok ok

[simple dew]

bianca ss3 is just a marginal ult increase

[unborn hound]

skip liv instead

[simple dew]

skip liv for kamui

[unborn hound]

[karmic anvil]

[carmine reef]

Not ult increase

Ss3 increases base dmg of blue
And qte nuke ofc

[simple dew]

[young badge]

ss3 bonca is big

[fading kestrel]

i can never tell if bonca means bianca or bonk nina

[young badge]

bonka

[gray beacon]

Tbh that blue orb damage genuinly surprisee me and the qte's were great, better than some say but not necessarily worth a whole new unit. So just get 3s instead

[solid kraken]

bonka

https://tenor.com/view/spinning-monkey-gif-21881306

[shy jackal]

It means bonca, obviously

[unborn hound]

it finally happened

pgr broke my ult button

[normal sierra]

[shy jackal]

For me it was but it could just be skill issue

13s hell skych with 2.32.33 111 team (alisa)

Couldn't do it at all with 2.32.32 vero

Funnily enough it was cecily's damage that netted me the kill, off-field cecily did like 1.5x bars so selena orchestra could kill

I'll test someday in wz

[young badge]

u trying 12s?

12s no possible with that invest

[shy jackal]

No I was intentionally going 13s

Cuz I knew I could

No matter how hard I malded vero I couldn't do it

[young badge]

oh yea vero suks on phys

at ss0 that is

[shy jackal]

Vero had 4phil2keats2rich
Han 4dv2volt2cath
Tomato soupe 4pat2cot2dar

Compared to alisa

4sig4phil
Same with other 2

Got 13s

[young badge]

i got lower scores with vero than alisa in wz

[shut remnant]

Tomato Soupe?

[shy jackal]

Nickname for selena

[shut remnant]

Thats hilarious but I don't get it.

[young badge]

she got tomato souped by gab

[shy jackal]

The red tide

Aka tomato soupe

Cooked by masterchef gabe

[shut remnant]

Oh that is beatiful

I love it.

[ripe stag]

I haven't touched my Ppc yet

[young badge]

touch it

[shy jackal]

Oh yeah touch it

[normal sierra]

that's not the correct mem setup for ppc with vero
vero: 4x Phillip + 2x Catherine + 2x Keats
hany: 4x DaVinci + 4x ChangWuzi

I cooked up a much faster rota than my previous one, 12s and it's one tap easy to do
13s with that rota, even with less invest, should be even easier

[feral pollen]

where challenge

[shy jackal]

Nowhere

[leaden tinsel]

whats dante rot input

[cobalt plover]

ignition?

[leaden tinsel]

yes

[buoyant hornet]

Imo bianca ss3 is pretty good

Although too soon to say whether it's better than veronica

[buoyant hornet]

It doesn't do anything for ult...?

[young badge]

2x blue till full gauge>hold ba>ult1>spam red till gauge empty>ult2

[buoyant hornet]

It buffs qte and blue orb sequence I don't remember anything about ult

[cobalt plover]

Ye that one

He was faster

[leaden tinsel]

i cant find ref 3s dante with 2.3 nana

i guess i will try something

[cobalt plover]

Also you could ping red after ult 2 so you can go to the ground faster

[cobalt plover]

Nana dante vero?

[leaden tinsel]

aha so ping red after ult2 and repeat

[leaden tinsel]

dante nana vera

[cobalt plover]

Its the same as nana ss0 I think

Ohh vera
Ok so you can do (I think)
3 ult nana 2 ult dante

[leaden tinsel]

all the 3s dante vids i found are with 3s nana or 3s wata

[cobalt plover]

Not sure if it aligns you can test

[leaden tinsel]

yeah prob will try that

[cobalt plover]

Gonna tell the rot I do
Should be similar to your invest I think

Though I use vero

You just do another rot on one of them and just qte bot on vera

Start on vero
Dante
Blue 2x
Hold ba
SDT
Red orb until 1000 on the sword icon
Signature

Nana
3 ping 2x (could be red, red - blue, blue or red, blue)
Hold 1 for a really small amount of time
Release
Signature
Hold 1 until ult meter (blue bar on the top left side of screen) is almost full
Release
Signature move
3 ping 2x

I swap out here since I play with vero
You can do another rot for nana for the downtime

[unborn hound]

Start on vero
Dante
Blue 2x
Hold ba
SDT
Red orb until 1000 on the sword icon
Signature

Nana
3 ping 2x (could be red, red - blue, blue or red, blue)
Hold 1 for a really small amount of time
Release
Signature
Hold 1 until ult meter (blue bar on the top left side of screen) is almost full
Release
Signature move
3 ping 2x

I swap out here since I play with vero
You can do another rot for nana for the downtime

[leaden tinsel]

the parenthesis were not need but thanks
saving this will try tomorrow

[unborn hound]

[leaden tinsel]

ignition ELI5

[unborn hound]

ice amp tmrw

[leaden tinsel]

[unborn hound]

[young badge]

liv lightning/darkflow atker

[karmic anvil]

khaled uncle still alive

[unborn hound]

https://tenor.com/view/shock-shocked-pretend-disappointed-fake-shock-gif-12170015

[young badge]

[unborn hound]

fake news

[unborn hound]

qu propaganda will not stop liv

[young badge]

[unborn hound]

https://tenor.com/view/mogging-mewing-cat-zazu-gif-13280918095920108064

[leaden tinsel]

qu reign continues

[unborn hound]

she reigning on that toilet fart

[young badge]

[unborn hound]

worst case scenario we skip and sss nana instead

[cobalt plover]

Ehy is bro copypasting me 😭

Khaled is losing his mind

[unborn hound]

[karmic anvil]

uncle got heartattack after liv betrayed him, pls understand

[cobalt plover]

Fair enough

[karmic anvil]

[unborn hound]

im close to victory u guys cant see it

[cobalt plover]

Im sorry that I judged you

[leaden tinsel]

https://media.discordapp.net/attachments/1062561037863370782/1113169414423056394/info.gif

[young badge]

[cobalt plover]

How is that gif on discord

[karmic anvil]

yae tids

[unborn hound]

has to be a femboy or something

[karmic anvil]

please suffocate me

[unborn hound]

its ok nitelji

liv will be ice amp and we will all celebrate

[leaden tinsel]

denial stage

[young badge]

take ur pills khaled

[karmic anvil]

i wanna believe khaled so nirvatia doesn't end up as A rank

[unborn hound]

its not over till its over

https://tenor.com/view/heisen-we-are-done-when-i-say-we-are-done-saul-goodman-walter-breaki-gif-23923149

[young badge]

come join us on lightning train

[karmic anvil]

please be ice

hope the leeker was trolling

[young badge]

its void all along

[karmic anvil]

ts amp where

[leaden tinsel]

ice darkflow i believe

[karmic anvil]

vergil buff please

[unborn hound]

u guys were just gaslighting me to make me falter

but i must believe

[feral pollen]

qu will reign supreme now and forever

[unborn hound]

she will be reigning supreme in getting powercrept

[noble zinc]

but she didn't

[unborn hound]

nah uh

she dying next patch fr fr

[noble zinc]

[unborn hound]

its ok nuke

sss qu wont save u from ice amp liv whooping

[karmic anvil]

[noble zinc]

[noble zinc]

Our ice fight still up right me with qu you with liv?

[karmic anvil]

light liv in ice fight

[noble zinc]

[deft apex]

Nuking it

https://tenor.com/view/tater-tot-cat-kitty-tiktok-i-can-be-gif-7996286484002640477

[unborn hound]

if liv ice sure

[timber grove]

Now that I have SSS Wata what is his rotation now? 6 blaze orbs then switch to Vera?

[young badge]

yeah

is it 6 or 5

[timber grove]

Max is 6 stacks unless I'm missing something

[sharp fern]

Phantom 5th and 6th orbs scary

Isn't it just swap in < ult < ba < hold dodge < 4x blaze < ult < swap out

At least for the basic rotation

I should stop talking actually

[gray beacon]

What they sayin she light amp?

[noble zinc]

[spiral merlin]

ice glow amp is the ideal

[gray beacon]

I saw some memories

Prob not an attacker

[gray beacon]

True

Wouldnt mind lightning either tbh

[spiral merlin]

glow amp is indirectly lightning amp

thats why ice glow is ideal

[gray beacon]

True true

I mean glow is very likely

What time is beta start?

[young badge]

somtime tomorrow

[gray beacon]

[cloud summit]

can someone help with resonance for discord? upper and lower

[final fog]

Attack top
Ult bottom

[cloud summit]

like just ALL

[final fog]

Yea for all the memories

[sharp fern]

Isn't red orb better for top

[gray beacon]

Oop

[cloud summit]

and basic atk? no orbs?

[final fog]

Its changed?

[cloud summit]

or?

[gray beacon]

Also remember that cottie always bottom||s||

[cloud summit]

ill trust ur judgement of no orbs

[cloud summit]

alr ty!

[wintry parcel]

No

The difference is too small for an A rank character

[sharp fern]

Oh
Mb

[wintry parcel]

Getting atk resonance is significantly cheaper

[frozen raft]

[noble zinc]

[cobalt plover]

Denial is a river

[wintry parcel]

Liv is going to be Nihil character

[deft apex]

Check celica

[noble zinc]

[cobalt plover]

Hmm

Wait celica back?

[noble zinc]

[boreal lynx]

do i sss her or wait for next char so i can sss them. shes ss3 rn

[cobalt plover]

Prob wait for next character

[deft apex]

Like the discord server

[cobalt plover]

Send link

[deft apex]

Its still very very alive

[cobalt plover]

[noble zinc]

[deft apex]

Dms

[cobalt plover]

Oke

[pallid cypress]

what set should the other amplifier have for wanshi to one tap the emperor?

ayla is on guin and sam

can i try luna?

[cobalt prawn]

**OMFG ISTG IF THAT GODDAMN WORM BURIES HIS STUPID FAKKING HEADE ONE MORE DAMN TIME **

[noble zinc]

[buoyant hornet]

If your ayla is less than sss and lacks resos you're better off using luna vera/lilith

Or can use dv eins gloria on qu + 4guin 4samantha on ishmael and use ishmael's instant ult to proc wanshi's qte nuke

Depending on the run

[pallid cypress]

Oh right i think vera is free this week

[cobalt prawn]

Should I just save vouchers if I have echo epitaph wanshi lililth all SSS

[deft apex]

Scire propaganda going so strong

[crystal rune]

It’s a sign

[buoyant hornet]

Yes

Cw not worth it, scire too ancient

Who knows when cw might be replaced amirite

[frozen raft]

[crystal rune]

3 more hours

https://cdn.discordapp.com/emojis/905710307815604254.gif?size=48&animated=true&name=worrypopcorn

[slate gull]

what for

[crystal rune]

Can’t wait to see khaled crashout

[crystal rune]

Liv class and element/affix

[slate gull]

[crystal rune]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/902953181754032198/1355130455879585946/resize.gif

[slate gull]

she gonna be an aero resonator bro

[buoyant hornet]

Have you heard the claims

[crystal rune]

Neope

[buoyant hornet]

Dms

[crystal rune]

I’ve been asleep

[cobalt prawn]

Hahaha

[crystal rune]

Ômg feyer in my dms

[wind hemlock]

Does Veronica change anything against Fu Shen?

[cobalt prawn]

Khaled has pretty much given up on life

[buoyant hornet]

Depends on what you had before

[crystal rune]

I’ll check em later Ill be heading to school rn

[wind hemlock]

SSR0H1 Alisa

[buoyant hornet]

Wait check quickly

[cobalt prawn]

For me it did, Selena hold dodge alone used to not kill him on knight but now she does

[wind hemlock]

Build is 4 DV 2 Keats 2 Phillip?

[cobalt prawn]

Yes

[wind hemlock]

Hypertuned?

[cobalt prawn]

Absolutely necessary

[buoyant hornet]

Not in ppc

[wind hemlock]

that's why I ask

[pallid cypress]

what memory set i should give vera?

[buoyant hornet]

In ppc she depends on what's used on the others there's like 3 different combinations

[wind hemlock]

[pallid cypress]

@buoyant hornet davinci, gloria and ein?

[buoyant hornet]

• If selena is cottie burana:

4dv 4patton hanying

2keats 4phillip 2catherine veronica

• If burana patton selena:

4dv 2catherine 2voltaire hanying

2keats 4phillip 2richelieu veronica

• If selena cottie patton: same as first build

[pallid cypress]

for vera

[wind hemlock]

Richelieu

[buoyant hornet]

Where? Ppc?

[buoyant hornet]

4signa had a chokehold on phys mems before LMAO

[pallid cypress]

yep

[buoyant hornet]

Richelieu never saw the light of day

[carmine reef]

i was already using riche frequently

all of you are throwing gb smh

[wind hemlock]

[buoyant hornet]

Crit mald

[buoyant hornet]

Uh assuming she's wanshi qte bot right? With luna?

[pallid cypress]

with Ayla kaleido

im doing double amp

my ayla has signature and harmony but not reso

[buoyant hornet]

Are they both r1 or something

[pallid cypress]

vera is, ayla is R0

[buoyant hornet]

Then I fear ayla is obsolete here

Just use luna

[pallid cypress]

i do have a spare USB and spare 6 star weapon

[wind hemlock]

Then for wz, Hanying changes to 4 Changwuzi 4 Patton, Vero to 4DV 2 Keats 2 Phillip as stated?

[buoyant hornet]

Vera base qte buff 20%

Base amp buff 20+20%

She's basically equal to SSS kaleido

Luna can convert all that for wanshi to use

[pallid cypress]

ohhh i see

so what set should vera use?

[buoyant hornet]

And luna carries 4dv 2eins 2gloria

[pallid cypress]

yep

[buoyant hornet]

Vera 4guin 4samantha (or 2sam 2lantern if you somehow have lantern)

[buoyant hornet]

Wait to see what Liv needs before depleting your resos but Vera r2 is high value

Btw in weeks that don't use Lilith elsewhere Lilith is better for Luna zaza

Ss3 Lilith has 30% qte buff and 40% at SSS

[buoyant hornet]

Phil or Catherine depending on wave tankiness yeah but for ppc you don't need to hypertune the qte bot sets

[wind hemlock]

[buoyant hornet]

At most you can reso them for class passive reso if you can afford it

[pallid cypress]

well im going to do vera and luna for wanshi

[wind hemlock]

We don't know if that will change for Chiko PPC, right?

[buoyant hornet]

Good luck 🙏

[pallid cypress]

so start on amp and swap to do wanshi's thing?

should i put lingya?

[buoyant hornet]

Uh idk it'll definitely depend on invest

I saw a 222 chiko run where Selena just oneshots all except hell (in hell veronica only swaps in for ult 1 + proc Selena's off field dmg tick)

But that was all r2 units iirc

Idk how lower invests would do

[wind hemlock]

[buoyant hornet]

Doesn't matter much on emperor unless you're running ish with qu comps (ish is the fastest qte bot that can proc lingya active skill with next to no time waste)

[spiral fox]

What are the priority units for voucher exchange?

[buoyant hornet]

Uh ig wanshi > Lilith > wata but idk if the prio will change after Liv

[crystal rune]

Liv ss3 > liv sss > liv sss+ >

https://cdn.discordapp.com/emojis/936606302082334750.gif?size=48&animated=true&name=worryNodders

[boreal lynx]

is the vero main dps team scoring higher

[noble zinc]

[crystal rune]

Thx nuke for reviewing run

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/902953181754032198/1355130455879585946/resize.gif

[heavy marlin]

Ishmael amp build 4 guin 4dv? Or sig?

[crystal rune]

Ye or guin eins works too

[noble zinc]

@unborn hound gib yo run too student now can

[crystal rune]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/emojis/1240599200618512426.gif?size=48&quality=lossless&name=selenayes

[spare forum]

How do you double ult with Bianca without dlt or Cottie?

[spare forum]

I know it’s possible but I’m not having enough energy and idk what I’m doing wrong

[carmine reef]

you don't do another hold blue

after the first ult it's 3x3r, hold basic, release on the flash, then another 3p to ult

that being said, lilith is better for ppc

[wintry parcel]

Is that SS3 rank or SSS rank

[carmine reef]

they don't have cottie on so presumably ss3

[wintry parcel]

He can just swap out and trigger Crepuscule qte with Either Scire or Daemonissa and kill the boss

Because of her qte damage boost

Oh well, even though there's a lot more to improve besides that

[pine slate]

lilith does that boss faster

[wintry parcel]

That's also true

[pine slate]

or can use ish for qte kill

[rocky wedge]

oh yomm helped me figure the burn stack shenan out finally

[wintry parcel]

Spill it

I'm curious

[rocky wedge]

ahh well thats the problem is explaining it xD

[wintry parcel]

Awh man

[pine slate]

kekw

much easier to see how it works with vero

but ye, the inital stack that u do never rlly runs out and usually always appears in new waves with a couple split second remaining

that's the way i understand it

which is why u see full duration 20 stack in new waves after vero ults

[rocky wedge]

https://youtu.be/1CbMGgxEZrI?t=52s just watch the burn stacks here

[pine slate]

only in some special occasions it doesnt get the 20 stack

[rocky wedge]

see he has 2 stacks that didnt activate, he kills the wave then next wave has old stacks that were 20

this is the one thing im trying to understand now, because sometimes when u have new stacks activated - the next wave will still inherit old stacks xd

but i think its from how the mobs are being killed

[wintry parcel]

Oh nice run

:D

[median spade]

always has been

[noble zinc]

Isn't that the case always?

As long the stack duration don't run out without wave transfer timing done

[rocky wedge]

nah ive had some cases where stack activated but new wave got old stack

unless its just bugged

[noble zinc]

Isn't it better

[rocky wedge]

pretty much u can keep 20 stacks on infinite loop practically

[rocky wedge]

well probably for my invest yes xD

[noble zinc]

[wintry parcel]

I smell a very good rng

[wintry parcel]

Also aren't you a helper now

[rocky wedge]

well its not really rng

[noble zinc]

no

[wintry parcel]

You know you can delete misleading messages right

[rocky wedge]

since u can control it to some extent

[noble zinc]

there are people here?
I ve been busy balding and classes wasn't on much here

[crystal rune]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/emojis/1155823278921883668.gif?size=48&animated=true&name=SADDIES

[noble zinc]

gnrl help I don't go

[rocky wedge]

think can 760 this maybe with donte nonomi geiravor

[crystal rune]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/emojis/1350874583619866735.gif?size=48&animated=true&name=ggnod

[rocky wedge]

feels kinda weird cause then vero impact not that wild

unless u literally dont have dante

tho i guess thats probably the point

[crystal rune]

rorrythink

[peak halo]

I no had dante so vero is brutal fine

[crystal rune]

What score did you get in hero with 333 burn

[rocky wedge]

cause we also have zoo zone but not too many alpha

wave 29, 30 and 31 and 34 have bear

and some waves before also zoooooo

[noble zinc]

me stuck between 10 bears

Scores aren't even that high being so tank it's same as other zones in bili seeing

Phy same

[crystal rune]

Whats your timer when last nana swap nuke

rorrythink

[peak halo]

13m 2tap
Can get 15/16m or that score with the dude get to if had time to try out the rota with nuke send me

[crystal rune]

Waow 15/16 even in hero

[noble zinc]

0:12 sec in game timer

[crystal rune]

Watapak at best I can do 9s

https://cdn.discordapp.com/emojis/1421858369614118998.gif?size=48&animated=true&name=PepeRunCryTrip

[noble zinc]

be fast less consume bar tech told

That helps

[crystal rune]

rorrythink

[peak halo]

Yeah check lb
In eu glaciogod get that

[noble zinc]

We adjust sp with more pings

[crystal rune]

I tried doing that but

Not enough practice so it’s clunky

[rocky wedge]

do u need dlt for this?

[wintry parcel]

Feels like Canada

[crystal rune]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/emojis/1350874583619866735.gif?size=48&animated=true&name=ggnod

[wintry parcel]

Even Physical warzone is full of bears

[noble zinc]

I haven't tried

[rocky wedge]

i can try imma play now

how do i do the thing

[noble zinc]

Wut thing

[rocky wedge]

the nana tech

[noble zinc]

oh

It's more useful with wata

[chilly glade]

https://tenor.com/view/bear-fight-kung-fu-punch-kick-gif-17355780

[rocky wedge]

xddd

ye no ways i would ever fight real bear, especially polar bear - that mf will eat u alive literally

[noble zinc]

The amount of sp
That on yellow gauge used
And pings/hits mostly on them
Based on that you go
Written basic inputs
What there just adjust on that

https://youtu.be/ct9waVTvv60?si=3ADqd5y8YQWQ3QVU

Fixed roatioon

Then 222 invest

[rocky wedge]

ah ok cool i usually watch my sp anyway

[noble zinc]

there better used

[rocky wedge]

ive been having to freestyle cant really follow the same thing Dx

with nana at least

[noble zinc]

Management better here

[crystal rune]

How to stop alpha from moving

rorrythink

[peak halo]

Kill before she moves

[crystal rune]

Mid invest in leg cannot

[peak halo]

[crystal rune]

Every time I’m doing chainsaw she moves way and survives with 4 bars

https://cdn.discordapp.com/emojis/1155823278921883668.gif?size=48&animated=true&name=SADDIES

[rocky wedge]

oh wtf u pinged blue even tho it was still grey

[crystal rune]

Still grey?

rorrythink

[rocky wedge]

ye or dull

[spare forum]

Ss3

[noble zinc]

[crystal rune]

Yea cuz if you use half bar when you have full gauge and release before the halfway point it’s instant 3p

Unless you’re taking about smth else

https://cdn.discordapp.com/emojis/1350874583619866735.gif?size=48&animated=true&name=ggnod

Nuke eq hax

[rocky wedge]

xd

[wintry parcel]

Just

don't be mid Invest

https://cdn.discordapp.com/emojis/1350874583619866735.gif?size=48&animated=true&name=ggnod

[crystal rune]

My pilot account don’t have moni rorrythink

[wintry parcel]

Smh my head

[wind hemlock]

Did they announce what Liv does?

[rocky wedge]

me

[crystal rune]

Not yet

[wintry parcel]

Should have told the man "I can't improve man, I think if you pay me 10 bucks for me to get monthly will kill alpha for more score, trust me"

[crystal rune]

In 42 minutes they will

[wind hemlock]

[peak halo]

[deft rock]

I've been using sss+ r0 bridget, how much of an upgrade is watanabe to my fire/ignition team?

[peak halo]

Lot

Specially if u can sss0 him

[wintry parcel]

You don't even need SSS rank

Off field passive skill from the base S rank epitaph is already huge compared to qte only Bridget

[peak halo]

Yeah thats why i said specially

[crystal rune]

Fk whel

[peak halo]

[gray beacon]

HUH

[peak halo]

Voucher order is flexable in my eyes

I mean btw wata lilith wanshi
Get them both ss3
Choice who 3s first

[crystal rune]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/emojis/1350874583619866735.gif?size=48&animated=true&name=ggnod

[gray beacon]

Is should sleep-

Its almost 5am

I usually sleep around 1💀

But 20minutes... i mean

[wintry parcel]

Don't sleep

[sour silo]

What if I use patton on ss0 selena

[peak halo]

Then 4dv voltair cath han
4philip 2 keats 2 rich

If i right

[sour silo]

On wz

[peak halo]

Nvm

[wintry parcel]

Let him cook

[sour silo]

It will be the same 1 rot thing on glacio

[wintry parcel]

True

[sour silo]

Ss3 hanying bottleneck

[barren plank]

Phys Pianissimo uses Cottie not Patton

Burana Patton is only for SSS blue orb EXPPC kills (ie, very niche)

[gray beacon]

I gotta study tmrw

[sour silo]

Aw bouta use for wz

Thought it will be the same like glacio

[barren plank]

No, glacio uses 4Klenova

[sour silo]

No what i mean is the rot

[barren plank]

No

Selena can only do one single rotation in glacio

[sour silo]

Finna like vero>hanying >selena> vero

[barren plank]

Since her ult2 forcibly empties the affix gague

[sour silo]

But i will just drill

[barren plank]

Rotate based on ur breakpoints

[sour silo]

I will try waste mats to experiment

With double rot selena, vero just quick ult to swap hanbrick

[barren plank]

More or less

[wintry parcel]

.

[crystal rune]

LMFAAOOO IT IS

[gray beacon]

👀

BAHAHAHAHSHA

[crystal rune]

WHAAAATTT

[gray beacon]

LMAO

[crystal rune]

LIV ATTACKERRRR LMFAOOOOOOOOOOPOOOOOOOOO

[gray beacon]

LOVE THAT

FINALLY LIV ATTACKER FRAME

WOOOOOOOOOOOOOO

[sharp fern]

Kuro really hates being predictable

[wintry parcel]

Oh I didn't realize it's already 1 hour later

[gray beacon]

DARKFLOW LOL

[sharp fern]

At least crimson washed is finally dead

[brave sigil]

wtf

darkflow?

[gray beacon]

Alpha CW (crippled n weak)

[tidal hound]

limpidity

[crystal rune]

So now we know gr squad can go outside their classes

Lee amp when

[sharp fern]

You know what that means

[normal sierra]

another char with frilly willy barbie clothing
their designs are just getting boring at this point

[sharp fern]

Dark tank lee

[limber yoke]

its over cw

die

[gray beacon]

Lmao yeah in wedding dress

[crystal rune]

It’s so beautiful

https://cdn.discordapp.com/emojis/1155823278921883668.gif?size=48&animated=true&name=SADDIES

[brave sigil]

be kuro
give CW darkflow leap
make 0 darkflow content
release new Liv attacker with darkflow
mfw

[wintry parcel]

Oh I just remembered I made this

It was her weapon model

.

[wind hemlock]

Well, ice team stays in the mud

[crystal rune]

Ice team is at least fun for low invest

https://cdn.discordapp.com/emojis/1350874583619866735.gif?size=48&animated=true&name=ggnod

[normal sierra]

paking cow still alive

[wintry parcel]

"ice team is fun"

Until qu flies

[crystal rune]

@unborn hound fk you

[barren plank]

https://x.com/PGR_GLOBAL/status/1978672246957723667/photo/1

Punishing: Gray Raven (@PGR_GLOBAL)

[New Frame Dossier Decryption]
Type: Lightning
Class: Attacker
Weapon: Lotus Wheel
Effect: Darkflow

"Good morning, Commandant. I'm still here by your side."

New version [Where Nightmares Dwell] arriving on November 13, bringing you S-Rank Omniframe Liv: Limpidity!

X · Oct 16, 2025, 4:00 AM

[brave sigil]

you only need Linya for extra orb anyways, no point in getting it higher rank

[normal sierra]

khaled must be fuming, cuz can't drop q* from the team yet

[wintry parcel]

Getting the dedicated cub is way better investment

Especially considering you can do the dupe and scrap method for every new cub

Along with the cub tickets given for free from Norman

[crystal rune]

Imagine the surprise on his msgs when he wakes up

Axtually I’m pretty sure he knew ard

[noble zinc]

[crystal rune]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/emojis/1350874583619866735.gif?size=48&animated=true&name=ggnod

[normal sierra]

well, at the very least, now my sss wulf can actually be used

[round lake]

Quick, somebody give Khaled a coffin

[vivid hollow]

bruh even Kuro know the Alpha leap was so bad they straight up replace her both in lightning and dark flow lmao
Alpha got kicked off so hard

[crystal rune]

@peak halo say goodbye to alpha

[summer topaz]

that cw leap was worthless

[wintry parcel]

What if I already scrapped her weapon

[crystal rune]

Ig theyre doing if attacker is not highest dps they get replace thing still

[peak halo]

Now new relic on my acc

[crystal rune]

Overflow shard bot

[peak halo]

Yep

[normal sierra]

shame on you, stealing the property of a tiny wulf gurl like that

[peak halo]

Idk why i happy
But atleast my cw can rest thats why

[crystal rune]

Are you gonna fodder her weapon

[brave sigil]

im so glad, i can finally use CW sig for resonance

[crystal rune]

[peak halo]

Relic cant be feddid

[normal sierra]

I was prepared for needing 2 reso cuz liv amp, but she attacker, so 1 reso enuff

[crystal rune]

[ruby saddle]

doing literally anything but retiring daren

[crystal rune]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/emojis/905710307815604254.gif?size=48&animated=true&name=worrypopcorn

[brave sigil]

why the hell would we ever need to retire scire

[vivid hollow]

wondering who's gonna be the last member of void team
Vonnegut finally coming back?

[peak halo]

But wait df finaly get contant

[vivid hollow]

unless they pull some bs and make Alpha void

[brave sigil]

alpha will get a new frame im sure, shes like a cash cow

[crystal rune]

You test s+ alpha with 3S liffu

[normal sierra]

dat test will end faster than my ppc resets

[vivid hollow]

and yet they fumble her story
i guess good sale dont need no good story

[peak halo]

No we know the answer
I guess

[vivid hollow]

man that entire chapter feel like just have no impact in the story other than introducing Lilith

[brave sigil]

i've stopped caring about PGR lore ever since they pulled out time traveling and cosmic beings bs

[crystal rune]

Wdym I have no idea what you’re talking about

Surely it’s a close fight

[peak halo]

Alpha is a prototype a test rat about leap

[normal sierra]

same. they just ruined the world they built up for years with that gigantic bullcarp

[ripe stag]

Yep

As you guessed it

THIS moderator is INSANELY HAPPY TODAY

[peak halo]

Me too

Better than light amp or ice amp

[ripe stag]

I'm so happy to see that b*tch get powercrept from everything simultaneously

[vivid hollow]

since Wanshi isnt stronger than Qu
there's hope the next ice unit is a Ayla replacement instead

[ripe stag]

Liv offscreen'd Alpha

[normal sierra]

you know she only gets crept cuz next new S rank will be new Alpha

[vivid hollow]

imagine Kamui ice amp lmao

[crystal rune]

Free alpha

[barren plank]

Qu is extremely unlikely to get a leap at this point

[chilly glade]

ayla freaking lived XDDDDDD

[wintry parcel]

Can they give me a selector already

I need more s rank

[ripe stag]

It's ok

[normal sierra]

selector up to q*, part 3

[ripe stag]

CW needed to die

[crystal rune]

When lucia tank

[chilly glade]

at least im not using ayla amp, surely

[buoyant hornet]

@unborn hound imma hold your hand when I tell you this....

[crystal rune]

Hes gonna wake up to a bajillion pings

[vivid hollow]

it does get tiring they trying to bring back some characters way too many times while other barely get any
sorry but i think Vera and Bianca already got good enough story
making them appear for a 4th time just make it not exciting anymore
what ahappen to all that build up for Noan? or any transcendant?
i dont believe the whole "they write story first and the character order doesnt matter" thing
cause its pretty clear some chapters are 100% not for the main story at all

[buoyant hornet]

it does get tiring they trying to bring back some characters way too many times while other barely get any
sorry but i think Vera and Bianca already got good enough story
making them appear for a 4th time just make it not exciting anymore
what ahappen to all that build up for Noan? or any transcendant?
i dont believe the whole "they write story first and the character order doesnt matter" thing
cause its pretty clear some chapters are 100% not for the main story at all

[peak halo]

[brave sigil]

they make story for whoever sells the best

[noble zinc]

[ripe stag]

trust me
CW simps will say "oh but we have SSS CW so Liv can't really be stronger than her, might similar in damage at SS0 vs SSS0 CW"

[sour silo]

Selena patton ig, i still need to be fast from hanying, i didnt flower at the end would have been wave 26 ehe

Im short 2seconds for flower

[vivid hollow]

ngl feel like a Roland or a Noan banner would probably sell better than idk Veronica
cause i dont think ive heard anyone in CN really desperately wanting Veronica or Hanying to be playable for a 2nd time

[peak halo]

Sss? Its s+ cw
But will no chance to alpha to be alternative dps too in legend

[ripe stag]

They are glazing Veronica Ignition

[brave sigil]

i want Kamui

my kimochi yokatta

[normal sierra]

if it has to be a m*le, let it be Teasel
dude supposedly stronk as hell, but we only saw him once for a few minutes

[vivid hollow]

hell i feel even a Von banner can do pretty well since dude get some insane screentime already

[buoyant hornet]

I wish

[buoyant hornet]

Ss3 selena?

[sour silo]

Ss0

[vivid hollow]

as for female there's alot of npc construct that could have make it but they decide not to?

[buoyant hornet]

What full invest?

[sour silo]

Sss0 vero

Im still not good

Drill vero deletes 2 waves with normal elite

[buoyant hornet]

That godfall lady might become A rank or something

[sour silo]

Polar bear just got deleted in 1 drill

[surreal nest]

yess we can finally kick cw off of the lightning team

[sour silo]

Im thinking about 4 keats 4 cottie

No wait

[cobalt plover]

Her damage is not good even on s+
She does damage on her dots

[hollow tulip]

i hate this DOG AHH GAME

[sour silo]

4 patton

[cobalt plover]

4 keats increase red orb, yellow orb damage

[normal sierra]

if they magically bring him back, story will plummet even lower than it already is

[sour silo]

That's why i said drill not ult

[cobalt plover]

Oh wait you are on physical
Yea she does no damage ever

[sour silo]

Loved seeing -3 every wave

[brave sigil]

masterful trolling from Kuro

[peak halo]

No hate
We finally can rest her

[vivid hollow]

yeah what even was that leap for lmao other that cool animation

[peak halo]

Also her df leap just prototype

[carmine reef]

where's khaled i'm here to laugh my ass off at him

[crystal rune]

Hes gone

[sharp fern]

Funny because the whole "Vonnegut's entry into this world" thing got retconned instantly with ER10

[carmine reef]

@unborn hound

[normal sierra]

ping khaled, he didn't get enuff yet

[crystal rune]

Ping him some more that’s the third one

[normal sierra]

kek

[peak halo]

No
Its for fastering her light rot
How in higher rank fit can copie with her

[buoyant hornet]

Everyone tagging him LMFAO 😭😭

[carmine reef]

he reaps what he sows

[vivid hollow]

what happen?

[vital nova]

are we allowed to ask about next patch content yet?

[crystal rune]

@unborn hound

[cobalt plover]

@unborn hound the witch stays alive for one more patch

[buoyant hornet]

I mean the official account posted already

[fringe grove]

I prophesized this

[brave sigil]

theres literally no official info other than Liv

[vital nova]

so is live gonna a be a dorm character or gacha only?

[normal sierra]

I don't think the "timeline" is defined in that chapter
not that it matters, that chapter was utter garbage either way

[fringe grove]

I been praying on matt's downfall since day 1

[buoyant hornet]

one

[cobalt plover]

Gacha only apparently

[vital nova]

oh fr?

[keen meteor]

@unborn hound just cz everyone's tagging

[vivid hollow]

Daren is only getting powercreep by another Daren
they are saving up the slot so they can make Karen another dark tank

[cobalt plover]

That we can guarantee

[surreal nest]

not like we'll get anymore sneak peak till beta considering weve caught up now

[buoyant hornet]

About that

[humble gust]

anyone expecting the s rank choice in basic banner to get reset again?

[cobalt plover]

Ye

[surreal nest]

is it already reset time?

[vital nova]

damn I was gonna get Selena coating this patch thinking next patch gonna be another dorm character

[vivid hollow]

hope so
so i can get SS3 nanami

[fringe grove]

alhamdulillah

[cobalt plover]

27 min

[cobalt plover]

Me too brotha

[surreal nest]

i mean like the standard pick banner reset thing

[cobalt plover]

Should reset soon

[humble gust]

I was hoping to use on balterer but sync screwed us

[noble zinc]

[wintry parcel]

I'll take it

[surreal nest]

is daren the oldest meta character now?

[wintry parcel]

Faster SSS rank Epitaph

[humble gust]

yeah

[cobalt plover]

She will ever be

[normal sierra]

basic reset would enable me to get sss spektakuru, perfect for liv release

[surreal nest]

i still remember the whole ss3 or die debate

[vivid hollow]

Karen outliving both the fish and Alpha is mad funny

[humble gust]

Daren has the longest meta viability in the game now lol

[vivid hollow]

its basically against everyone's will atp

[humble gust]

Give us Leap2

[deft rock]

if I can only afford one, should I SS0 him or get his sign?

[surreal nest]

matter of a fact give us level 2 of weapon harmony already

[normal sierra]

I only remember the "she is skippable" people
thinking back on that is so funny now

[carmine reef]

SS0 is free with pain cage skulls

[humble gust]

If they don't soon I'm going to harmo some A ranks

[meager cypress]

Guys does Discord need her sig weapon guillotine for her to be viable? Or a 5 star weapon is good enough for her?

[carmine reef]

discord won't be viable no matter how much investment you put into her

[vivid hollow]

no A rank are viable to begin with

[ripe stag]

IT'S OVER

[carmine reef]

that being said, her sig doesn't even change much about her

[humble gust]

Only pull A rank sigs if you're huffing copium or whaling

[ripe stag]

Liv made sure that there's only Lucia in this world

[wintry parcel]

5 star or 6 star barely made difference for her

[ripe stag]

[surreal nest]

i think the 5 star one is sufficient enough for her gameplay

[wintry parcel]

Not even for copium

[vivid hollow]

ngl feel like gettin Balter from like any old free s selector have more value than discord but maybe that's just me

[meager cypress]

So I should get 5 star instead of her sig weapon yeah?

[wintry parcel]

Just get a 5 star weapon for her, you wouldn't see the difference

[surreal nest]

also its really funny that dante kiwid the next patch after he got released for us

[humble gust]

Copium players delulu tho so in that regard...

[wintry parcel]

[vivid hollow]

i mean only if you have high invest Veronica

[surreal nest]

though im happy liv finally got a new frame, i hope she doesnt burn my retinas this time around

[stiff burrow]

I thought discord was replacement if no hanying for ultima

[icy otter]

On God I'm in their walls

[surreal nest]

still dk why they even added glow anyways

[cobalt plover]

To glow

[stiff burrow]

Cw is still meta in darkflow guys don't worry

[humble gust]

because they effed up on affixes

[vivid hollow]

even more insane is they have to make different effects for different coatings for CW's leap move as well
its literally wasted effort lmao

[cobalt plover]

Just wanted to have the same amount of affixes

[meager cypress]

BRO IS A FAN OF DISCORD LEZZZGOOOO

[surreal nest]

imagine livs single ping does more dmg than cws whole darkflow kit

[cobalt plover]

Not wasted
She has a lot of fans so I guess they got money

[wintry parcel]

Fan is a big stretch

[humble gust]

I'm waiting for scissors in weapon choice shop still

[wintry parcel]

I just wanted to try

[humble gust]

[stiff burrow]

sybau

[cobalt plover]

Seeing the ping damage of all characters is probably not

I think she’ll be like veronica
Lightning damage outside of ult
Tap ult - lightning
Hold ult - darkflow

Then darkflow scalings will be better

[deft rock]

stephanie should I get wata to ss0 or get his signature

[surreal nest]

both

[deft rock]

I can only afford one 😭

[cobalt plover]

Also veronica not in terms of damage, just gameplay

[surreal nest]

wait but ss0 is free

[cobalt plover]

Both

ut

[buoyant hornet]

By a long shot

[vivid hollow]

right now for fire team Watanabe is likely getting replaced the most
but since Vera is stronger than Lucia
there's a f-cked up chance they might replace Lucia first which in itself is funny

[surreal nest]

[north vale]

you don’t have to pull for ss0 so weapon

[deft rock]

yeah I have the vouchers to ss0 him but not the bc for sign 😔

[crystal rune]

Does she beat Rosetta run time

[buoyant hornet]

Yep

[crystal rune]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/emojis/1155823278921883668.gif?size=48&animated=true&name=SADDIES

[cobalt plover]

Wait really?

[deft rock]

saving for liv

[surreal nest]

you can use ppc skulls

[humble gust]

yeAH

[buoyant hornet]

Yeah 😭

[cobalt plover]

Rosetta wasnt like almost 3 years?

[deft rock]

just blasted 500 for ss vero and saving for liv

[trail stump]

Brub attacker

[surreal nest]

ahhh well you can just get his weapon adn then eventually get his ss0

[deft rock]

ok so epitaph weapon first before ss0

[surreal nest]

i think itd be a waste when u can eventually get ss0 for free

[humble gust]

Daren is at least 32 patches now

[buoyant hornet]

Over 3

[cobalt plover]

Holy

[cobalt plover]

I mean… you can get his weapon when you want and have resources

[surreal nest]

just make sure you still have pulls for liv weapon as well too

[cobalt plover]

Its not like its going anywhere

[keen sable]

His sig is Low prio If u Miss alot of other units sig

[deft rock]

this is my worry

[keen sable]

I would Just skip His sig for now then

[wintry parcel]

Woah there

[keen sable]

Keep for Liv and her sig

[wintry parcel]

Watch out

[deft rock]

I've got vera and lucia sig, does ss0 wata get into rotation or just qte bot?

[wintry parcel]

No confirmation for Epitaph to be replaced

You're being worried about the uncertain

[shy jackal]

Swap in to cover downtime

[keen sable]

Just qte bot is fine

[wintry parcel]

Let's just worry about what we have right now

[deft rock]

ok thanks micah

[keen sable]

Just Stack bc for liv

[vivid hollow]

can i just get Daren and Hanying replaced pls
i hate Hanying

[buoyant hornet]

Wata has to swap if he's at the invest that can do it

[wintry parcel]

Even most of global players are still uncertain about Veronica right now to be worried of anything else

[wintry parcel]

Don't his qte skill can trigger off field passive skill with the leap upgrade?

Or would you still need to cast his signature move at least once

[gray beacon]

Literally, i said she reminded me a bit of nana and i got this as a reply

[shy jackal]

He can

But tell me you can find 15s rots for both vera and pyro

[feral flume]

Will we get new uppc boss again when liv lightning attacker get released? Tifa replacement?

[vivid hollow]

even though its braindead ngl i still really like Wata's animatons
it just feel grounded and impactful compare to all the flying around with a bajillion effect lately

[normal sierra]

15s? homeless wata not even sss

[surreal nest]

i think this also depends on vera and lucia invest

[carmine reef]

how far we've come that wata is considered braindead

[crystal rune]

Yea it’s likely boss from vero patch, observer

[feral flume]

Dem i see

[deft rock]

what's the best memo build for ss0 wata now? no sign

[surreal nest]

i remember having to mald his rotation to fit into no shield waves in void

[shy jackal]

4alph2dv probably

At least for wz

[keen sable]

Davinci4 einst2

Do Not Put davinci on Vera If U have the sig

[carmine reef]

no shot you recommended taking off alphonse for a generic suggestion

[keen sable]

Well i got Higher Scores with that

[shy jackal]

You do realize he won't shred fire without alphonse

[keen sable]

The using Alphonse

[shy jackal]

[carmine reef]

[meager cypress]

Btw guys what's the buying 60 booster structural parts for? What do you do with these?

[noble zinc]

[keen sable]

Putting davinci on Vera with sig Just gonna kill your score

[carmine reef]

it's for getting cubs to SS

[shy jackal]

Then just 2dv on wata

[surreal nest]

cant vera run 4 dv 4shakes if she has sig

[shy jackal]

No

[crystal rune]

Where cottie

[normal sierra]

but who said you need dv on vera?

[shy jackal]

Cottie must

[meager cypress]

But why? And only up to SS?

[carmine reef]

...what do you mean why?

because it's gains?

[chilly glade]

[carmine reef]

why do you upgrade anything in this game? because it's better

[meager cypress]

What I mean to say is is it even worth to SS a cub?

[carmine reef]

why not?

[surreal nest]

i mean its more dmg

[shy jackal]

There's nothing else to do with the ores anyway

[meager cypress]

Only up to SS?

[carmine reef]

yes because there's a limit to how many you can buy from ore shop

[shy jackal]

Besides free cub by scrapping 3

[carmine reef]

and a limit on the discount as well

[deft rock]

should I follow this for vera and wata?

[round lake]

Get more free CUBs?

[shy jackal]

Ahem

[meager cypress]

I honestly don't understand the cub upgrade system, is there some kind of guide out there because to my eyes it's kinda confusing with the settings here

[round lake]

Ye I got Global debuff, my bad

[karmic anvil]

[carmine reef]

rank upgrade for CUB just lets you equip more passive skills

[shy jackal]

[carmine reef]

simple as that

[vivid hollow]

ive said it before and ill say it again but they should really just remove attacker from A rank completely already
just either make tank or support to fill in the roles

[carmine reef]

A/S/SS/SSS/SSS+ -> 1/2/3/4/5 passive skill slots

[round lake]

Ye but lets fck them newbies

[shy jackal]

[round lake]

U know game is fcked for newbie when their only A rank option for Dark tank is No21 from over 2 years ago, 3 with syncho

[crystal rune]

Oh well another countdown till beta

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[carmine reef]

it's not really that bad

[round lake]

Attacker, high chance on fraud checklist

[carmine reef]

xxi is one of the best A ranks

the real pain point was phys

[normal sierra]

[carmine reef]

discord helps a lot

but there's still a huge void for newbies in the tank slot

[round lake]

Fortunately they can still pick Ros with her Sig now that Echo sig is no longer worth it

[carmine reef]

not really

rose needs SS to be of any use

[normal sierra]

base s horse with no weapon is still omegabricc

[round lake]

Its both trash option but what else can they do

[round lake]

[hollow steppe]

Alpha getting kicked from both elem and affix

[peak halo]

[round lake]

Should've been Vero role tbh

[chilly glade]

so what do you think of new liv frame xdd

[peak halo]

Im a most happiest alpha simp now

[chilly glade]

quite surprising

[vivid hollow]

leap used to be exciting now it just kinda lame

[round lake]

She looks good
I hate that she's in fraud ass attacker class but atleast I have SSS Feral

[meager cypress]

Yeah but what passive skills to choose, idk I know nothing on cubs

[shy jackal]

O wait, forgor to do dailies

[carmine reef]

just always start from bottom and go up

signature passive and ele dmg passive (assuming the cub is on its intended frame)

[peak halo]

Depends
Alpha leap the first with affix
Then its means its was just a test/prototype thing

[round lake]

Died before even trying out her shiny new move

[wintry parcel]

Weave weather no more

[round lake]

Pretty funny joke from Kuro

[wintry parcel]

Nanami no longer need to mald orb

[round lake]

Heh heh heh heh he

[shy jackal]

In some people's eyes she never died

[wintry parcel]

Truly revolutionary change

[peak halo]

no more dlt to my nana just for first rot

[meager cypress]

Is discord the only new A rank that's useful option or is Jetavie also a good option?

[chilly glade]

[hollow tulip]

Nice jien pfp

[round lake]

Jetavie is sadly very very ass

[carmine reef]

good option and helpful for newbies are different things

[round lake]

[wintry parcel]

It's so easy to fool people

[shy jackal]

Thanks

[peak halo]

Based
Heavy simps will stay to copie

[carmine reef]

no A rank is "good" at the end of the day

but jetavie is okay for what an A rank is, which is a cope alternative

[hollow tulip]

no.

[wintry parcel]

You can just say "SSS+ rank Nier team is still better than X physical character" and there will be still at least 1 man believing that

[carmine reef]

there are lots of A ranks that are okay for doing that

[vivid hollow]

Jetavie was almost good
but they were afraid she's gonna outdo fish so they nerf her
and so no A rank attacker is ever good
that's why i said to just completely remove A attacker already

[round lake]

Wonder how good Liv is, she must be very strong to be considered worth swapping with my Nanami at S+

[vivid hollow]

they serve no purpose

[wintry parcel]

Just

[carmine reef]

that's not true

[wintry parcel]

Get S+ Liv too

[peak halo]

So truly im the most happiest alpha simp yet

[carmine reef]

A rank attackers still serve a purpose for filling out a rotation

[wintry parcel]

I don't see a problem in here

You would probably want to get at least SS3 rank Liv still for that qte damage nuke to be honest with a S+ Startrail

[meager cypress]

Can I ask for you help in Ishmael's cub then? So what do I choose here there's 5 options to pick, it's SS from shop

[round lake]

Guys u dont believe this but CW S+ with her skin can out DPS Liv at SS rank if u know how to use her

[icy otter]

Finally now I only have to suffer half the ultimate spectakaru yahhhh during wz than full

[round lake]

[peak halo]

If cw worth swaping on s+ with s+ nana
Then she will no problem i guess

[carmine reef]

bruh

[hollow steppe]

You forgot about newbies

[round lake]

Well then the bar is low
She just need to be better than S+ CW

[hollow tulip]

im happy
happy i dont mald this game no more

[peak halo]

Thats the base line
Cuz cw is free
Whels had s+cw

[hollow tulip]

waste of time

[carmine reef]

hi matt

[meager cypress]

It's confusing in the cub system ui, where's the signature passive and elem dmg passive here?

[round lake]

Even at peak soloing performance I'm still not beating Alpha swap team

[carmine reef]

the signature passive is whatever has the frame's name in it because it's specific to that character

the elemental damage is...the passive that increases their elemental damage

[meager cypress]

So the fifth one here? But for the elem dmg which?

[carmine reef]

bruh

[meager cypress]

Yeah this shqt description is confusing

[carmine reef]

literally how is it confusing

that's as straightforward as it could possibly be

[normal sierra]

just don't read, select the last 3

[carmine reef]

i said that too, i already said multiple times to just go from bottom up

[meager cypress]

Thanks so select Rhomb, Union and Darkfall, got it thanks bro

[carmine reef]

[normal sierra]

bruh

[peak halo]

[meager cypress]

Guys you are talking to a very dumb guy (me)
Pls bare with me lol

[hollow tulip]

hello

[normal sierra]

we try, but it's harder by the minute

[remote fossil]

Finally cw is dead

I can sacrifice her weap

[crystal rune]

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