📨・meta-help

[raw swift]

Oh that works that's fast

[cobalt prawn]

Do u need all the inputs or u got it

[raw swift]

I think it's when the red gauge goes down right

[round lake]

Ye just dodge cancel everything she does except the very last basic hold

[cobalt prawn]

No when I said everything I meant literally everything

[raw swift]

The orbs are easy

[round lake]

Her swap in ping
Her blue ping
Her red ping
Her hold basic

[cobalt prawn]

Even her swap-in animation

U can dodge before the first blue ping

[round lake]

Do one final blue before u swap her out so she can enter ult faster next rot

[raw swift]

Ok I'll try

[cobalt prawn]

If u start on Vera u can also blue ping at the very beginning before ur first swap

[round lake]

Man if only Kusogame let us duplicate button because how else am I suppose to dodge cancel spam on mobile without making it looks like I'm picking shjt

[cobalt prawn]

But usually we don’t start on her in fire team

[robust dust]

u can press BA all the way while pressing dodge when it lowers yeah

it's much easier

[raw swift]

Ok

Are there any guild here

[crystal rune]

just get used to the timing

[raw swift]

For Asia-Pacific

[crystal rune]

you just left the ls discord man

WorryTiredOfYourShit

[raw swift]

Oh sorry

Sorry nergi wergi bergi splurgie

[crystal rune]

im confused now

broke

[raw swift]

https://tenor.com/view/huh-cat-cat-huh-small-cat-huh-what-gif-2593177363967991691

Wdym

[crystal rune]

theres only one person that calls me that 4worryknife

[raw swift]

Me?

[crystal rune]

4worryknife

[raw swift]

Who's that

I'm Kimi

Andrea Kimi Antonelli

[crystal rune]

it is fcking mambo godamn you and your alt accounts

[raw swift]

???

This is my main

[crystal rune]

broke

[cobalt prawn]

[raw swift]

I created this acc in 2021

@formal radish only made his in 2025

[leaden tinsel]

not answering this mf again

[raw swift]

How does that work

[molten laurel]

See how they ain't even deny it

[crystal rune]

4worryknife

4worryknife

[raw swift]

That's not

That's not real

[crystal rune]

WorryTiredOfYourShit

[raw swift]

Ok sorry babe

I lied to you

https://tenor.com/view/robin-robin-hsr-robin-star-rail-robin-honkai-star-rail-robin-disappointed-gif-6780156215518762303

[molten laurel]

[raw swift]

This is my main though

[crystal rune]

i know

[raw swift]

@formal radish is the alt smh

[crystal rune]

same thing

[raw swift]

Ok fine I'll go undercover on an unrelated account and I'll rise to become a helper

And you will never know

[crystal rune]

im ignoring pleas for help from now on 4worrywoke

[raw swift]

Perhaps it's already here...

Already asking questions...

Already learning

[wintry parcel]

This hasn't gone any well

[raw swift]

And you've never noticed

[crystal rune]

broke

[raw swift]

I won't spill who

But yes I already have another one here

[crystal rune]

ok

i hate that both of you are skin walkers

[raw swift]

On my mom's phone number so I can talk here on both accounts at the same time

[crystal rune]

you and kj

[raw swift]

KJ isn't my alt no

[crystal rune]

yea im saying that both of you are skinwalkers

[raw swift]

Look carefully

Maybe you'll find the skinwalker

https://tenor.com/view/gülmek-komik-gif-1506407869824367367

[cobalt prawn]

Why is she on 4 Patton

[raw swift]

Or maybe the alt isn't here and I'm lying my ass off

Who knows, who knows...

Goodbye again

nergi wergi bergi splurgie

[normal sierra]

bro is testing for us, so we don't hab to waste our ht mats for this set

[cobalt prawn]

I didn’t even know Patton was a cook for Vero

And cottie?

[leaden tinsel]

wouldn't be a cook if you knew it would it

[cobalt prawn]

[wintry parcel]

That is a very good question sir

[normal sierra]

there are a lot of chefs out there, you know

[cobalt prawn]

Yk what they say

[wintry parcel]

I don't even know why myself

[raw swift]

Like me

[cobalt prawn]

Too many chefs ruin the soup

[wintry parcel]

[raw swift]

That's why you only kidnap one guy from the street to cook for you

I found it works better than actually paying a professional

[cobalt prawn]

Esp if u hold them at gunpoint

[raw swift]

That's a really good motivator

[cobalt prawn]

The sweet taste of fear in each dish🤌🏼

[peak halo]

And after the kidnapped said i cant cook

[cobalt prawn]

Pew pew

[normal sierra]

but anyone can cook, only the result differs

[cobalt prawn]

Yes like Lucia for example

[normal sierra]

exactly

[cobalt prawn]

professional cook

[cobalt prawn]

Assassination technique fr

[crystal rune]

Susge~1

[peak halo]

How old that picture, how no ht on it?

[robust dust]

it's been 2 years since I last saw that

[crystal rune]

i dont think about it i just throw all my mats at it

now im down to sub 1m cogs broke

[wintry parcel]

I don't know

It's the only resources Image that u have for upgrades

Seems fair

Double rotation SS0 Solacetune vs Double rotation SS0 Veronica

[peak halo]

Uhh atleast better than han

[crystal rune]

LuciaThinking

[still moat]

2 rot with hold yellow feels horrid on phys vero

it takes too long

[peak halo]

Also with 3s vero
But 2.3 han
Im pk up phys

Also i forget to read keats 2pc effect
That get nerfed or not?

[chilly glade]

this is 2 pc

[peak halo]

so no more 40 cdmg🥀

[crystal rune]

WorrySad

[chilly glade]

nope

[peak halo]

Them really want to keep alisa as alternative
But is fair
Even now beginers fk catch up the meta

[wintry parcel]

Just don't hold yellow

Purge value is a scam

[wintry parcel]

Now I want to see if double rotation Veronica damage with Davinci set is better than Double rotation Solacetune

[crystal rune]

its not Despairge

[wintry parcel]

Time to put Davinci set on Solacetune for more Veronica damage

Trust me

[crystal rune]

rip shred worrykms

[carmine reef]

i cooked a 2 rot vero that is 9 seconds

but it was actually too fast for my team

was left with a few extra seconds on hanying

could maybe work for sss hanying

[peak halo]

Han is 1 rot now right

[carmine reef]

probably

theoretically veronica can do a really short 1 rot like alisa

but i dunno if it's worth it

just for poop ass hanying

[peak halo]

I can imagine its would be a ppc/ib strat

But i fk my invest
So

[wintry parcel]

https://youtu.be/rU3I6V1D68I?si=FtCSjZ8tzNxG77hB
@keen sable main dps Veronica

[crystal rune]

2.32.33 broke

[wintry parcel]

222 110 team

[peak halo]

After anniv
Can be 32.33

[crystal rune]

gawd

new whel territory

[feral patio]

Question what does that notation mean? I've seen around but idk because I'm 2 months in this game.

[crystal rune]

investment of the team

[peak halo]

But i guess need to choice btw pyro or selena
Im felt like skk

[feral patio]

Oh

[crystal rune]

i say pyro Selena_Yes

(im definitely biased)

[peak halo]

Surly fire is fun

[crystal rune]

to me it is worryNodders

i know you dont like plasma tho so worrythink

[peak halo]

Yeah

Kinda hate cuz
Good dmg but sht uptime

[verbal girder]

I saw some riding Motorbike while using the Hold Dodge attack on Crimson Weave.
How to do that could anybody please tell?

[carmine reef]

you need the motorbolt cub

[verbal girder]

Have that. It was free. What's next?

[carmine reef]

active 2

and you have to press it before the hold dodge

[peak halo]

Have her cub
Change active to 2nd one
Press cub skill and holddodge kinda same time

[carmine reef]

just has to be any time before

[verbal girder]

Thank you 📈

[carmine reef]

you can even do it like an hour early

i'll often press it during ult2 to have it for the next rot

[verbal girder]

Understood. That's a great advice ❤️

Her SSS what rotation should I use?

[carmine reef]

😬

it really depends on a lot of things

because feral is so ass that there are lots of alternative setups

and depends on nanami invest too

[verbal girder]

Feral replacement coming anytime soon? 👀

[carmine reef]

who knows

[verbal girder]

Nanami SS3 + Sig

[carmine reef]

for me i use lilith as my amp

but it requires me to play a specific way

i do cw 3 rots

[peak halo]

Ohh thats why not needed cub skill in first rot on 2nd swap

[carmine reef]

nah you can still activate it on first rot

but you just need to actually time it on first rot of first swap because you won't have the orbs to press it early

so first rot first swap needs to actually be timed close

my muscle memory is to time it tightly on the first rot of every swap, and then i press it during ult2 for second rot

but technically, after the first swap, you could just press it during ult1 for subsequent first rots

since you would have the skill ready from prev swap

[wet tusk]

whats the build for veronica? phys and ig

[carmine reef]

anyway,
ss feral/sss lilith ss nanami -> cw 2.5 rot or cw 3 rot
sss feral ss nanami -> cw 2 rot
sss nanami -> cw 2 rot

swap light also needs hands to play though, so if you don't think you can pilot the team well, there's also the option of

[wet tusk]

as for her sig, is it a must pull?

[carmine reef]

cw qte bot with ish and you just do 1 rot on cw at the start

[wet tusk]

cuz im like 1k bc off from her weapon pity lmao

[carmine reef]

to have qte nuke for the rest of the run

[peak halo]

I did than on hamlet/tb ppc that time
In wz not really seen how it worth it cuz i fly to the map end

[carmine reef]

😕

[verbal girder]

Do you have a "3 Rot" rotation guide 👀

[pastel iron]

Should i ss3 bianca or ss3 veronica

[warm cave]

what do i put on her?

[peak halo]

Im can kill the first wave with redorb on legend
And the by the leap effect just release before the wave spawn

[carmine reef]

uhh

it looks different every swap and every spawn, cw rots are fluid

[verbal girder]

Isn't there any basics ... 🙏🏻

[carmine reef]

but generally speaking it's just 3 standard rots with 1 slam per rot, sp delays and quick 0.5s ticks of swordwave for energy as needed once in the rot

you can get away with not doing sp delay unless it's cw weather

cw weather needs sp delay to be performed

i have a video from a long time ago but again

don't copy it exactly because it's not one exact way to play it

just get the general idea

[hazy sandal]

Oppai nun

[pastel iron]

Okay more important, should i go sss

[ripe stag]

For?

[hazy sandal]

Verorong’s investment threshold is
SS / SSS / SSS3 / S+

[carmine reef]

https://youtu.be/CUKfKAvq5ik

[hazy sandal]

Your wallet would tell.

Why asking us

[pastel iron]

https://tenor.com/view/selena-pgr-broke-wallet-gif-3055958149137878656

[hazy sandal]

Ok don’t

[verbal girder]

Please do share ❤️ cz all I know is Dodge+Spam BA (forte full) Hold Dodge > Ult 1 > Ping > Hold BA > Ult 2

[pastel iron]

Okay thanks for preventing my suicidal thought

[carmine reef]

it's right up there

[verbal girder]

Takes forever as you can already assume

[carmine reef]

also yeah your rot is really really wrong

[crystal rune]

4worrywaah

[carmine reef]

you don't really do any swordwaves other than 1 tick when you need energy, you don't do any hold dodge in base form

the most prototypical cw rot is like, swap>ult1, 3p, hold dodge>slam, ult2

[verbal girder]

Alright so here's the thing. How can you do the Hold BA thingy so fast, does the cub help?

[carmine reef]

nope

Just Be Faster™

[verbal girder]

That's exactly what I needed. Thank you so much for this

[opaque ridge]

sss both

[verbal girder]

Thank you soooo much.
After your guidance, now each rotation killing 3 waves lmao 😭🙏🏻
Thanks a lot ❤️❤️ my favourite and very first PGR character is finally usable now 📈

[carmine reef]

[cerulean sky]

https://tenor.com/view/really-mhm-whatever-dont-care-gif-14311338872635812139

[sand flume]

Y'all what this mean

[hazy sandal]

Big cc always have their wallet full

I knew it

[spiral merlin]

Deserved for wanting to see midcias story

[crystal rune]

there is powered and TS IB

[light basin]

in what slots should i put each of vero's 2pc sets? or does it matter

[mighty tusk]

doesnt matter

[hazy sandal]

1/2

Call leftover 2sets through harmo

[light basin]

yeah i'm doing dv harmo (phys)

[sour silo]

Shocking vero in my alt adv ppc

[sacred shale]

should i get karenina ember, nanami pulse, chrome glory, karenina scire, or lamia for the S rank selector?

kinda leaning towards scire for the plasma beam team

[wintry parcel]

You don't need scire for the plasma beam team

All of the characters you listed are really outdated already

At this point, getting a character dupe would benefit you more

[raw swift]

Wow advanced is so squishy

[sacred shale]

true, that was my other option

[karmic anvil]

kimi why you left us

[crystal rune]

does kj know i cant tell broke

[karmic anvil]

i can check logs so~

[crystal rune]

no like thats mambo

[karmic anvil]

that is mambo rite

[crystal rune]

yes

[karmic anvil]

rip peter porker

10/2023 - 10/2025

[crystal rune]

4worrywaah

[quiet vale]

whats the SSS veronica rotation ? for physical

[unborn hound]

Real

[crystal rune]

iirc youre full 3S right? You can run double amp resos for phys and smth like incan matrix for burn if youre running with vera Thumbb

[opaque ridge]

i love ion team

[peak halo]

[mighty tusk]

the only reason why they made veronica in the first place

just a vergil buff that cn loves sucking

[dreamy pelican]

[opaque ridge]

vera went the healer redo route and became a dps

[mighty tusk]

that's cradle right?

[opaque ridge]

thats tifa lmao

[dreamy pelican]

midcia benched once again

[mighty tusk]

ok, that clearly shows kuro doesn't care about their own units and would rather buff their beloved collab cashcows

[peak halo]

So cn finally killed pyro

Too much cw in my head

[crystal rune]

worryNope

[opaque ridge]

tbh its cn, they always cook zaza

[mighty tusk]

I heard vergil with vero already swiped both monzano and veronica ppc away from their respective affix team

[crystal rune]

4worrywaah

[opaque ridge]

idk, why u dont play my ppc and find out

[last yoke]

What's Bianca crepuscule's reso prio?

[opaque ridge]

im not even keeping up with the meta stuff anymore

[dreamy pelican]

blue ult

[last yoke]

Ohh aight thanks

[peak halo]

[stable terrace]

"Why are u using this comp?" U won't do that much dmg! Well it has my mommies

[ripe stag]

#📨・general-help thing

[leaden tinsel]

can i use ayla as a glacio amp

im dumb and saved vergil run twice on chaos and now have to off ele hell

[crystal rune]

if you dont spend a lot of time on selena's rot ig

[light basin]

Wait is that luna

[young badge]

can but no double hold dodge on selena

[light basin]

How does Selena's glacio rot even work

[young badge]

for off ele ppc is js hold dodge all concerto hold dodge ult2

[crystal rune]

just do 2 concertoes

[light basin]

Does she blue at all? At SSS mb

[karmic anvil]

bro thought he would be cool by saying that in meta help or something

[stable terrace]

Ngl that moment was like - 999 aura

[light basin]

😭

[stable terrace]

[karmic anvil]

[hazy sandal]

Relatively Easy strat
Have a try

[light basin]

Lmfaooo

[hazy sandal]

Omg gojo block

[stable terrace]

Wait

How did u enter burst mode asap

[young badge]

sss

[stable terrace]

Ohh

[leaden tinsel]

hax

[unborn hound]

gang how to ib

[stable terrace]

well dreams and only be dreams

[light basin]

Instant block?

[leaden tinsel]

wantap and go mald wz

[light basin]

You click the block button instantly

[karmic anvil]

[hazy sandal]

Omg gojo block

[young badge]

[crystal rune]

WorryThinkAsian

[karmic anvil]

[light basin]

Ok genuinely is fate good for getting SSS or should it just never be touched

[hazy sandal]

Three two one
It’s destiny

[stable terrace]

I went to 98+ thrice in row and now I am trying for ss3 veronica (I need to learn a another lesson)

[light basin]

98...

Nvm finger off the trigger

[unborn hound]

never be touched

[mighty arch]

Yo chat.
I got the S Rank Omniframe Choice Pack, what should I get?

[young badge]

nanami startteail

[loud carbon]

is qu shukra playable without dlt?

[mighty arch]

Got nanami

[young badge]

vera

[mighty arch]

Already got her

[crystal rune]

startteail

4worrywaah

[unborn hound]

just drop your huaxu

[young badge]

[unborn hound]

https://tenor.com/view/mogging-mewing-cat-zazu-gif-13280918095920108064

[crystal rune]

4worryknife

[young badge]

[young badge]

[crystal rune]

SSS alpha 4worrywaah

[karmic anvil]

[mighty arch]

Took a lot of grinding

[young badge]

grinding for bricced

[light basin]

Who does the selector go up to again

[mighty arch]

Only qu

[light basin]

Wata maybe?

[round lake]

Next selector will be up to Qu again

[mighty arch]

Anyways, who should I get?
From the selector?

[light basin]

Are we fr

[young badge]

wtf rlly

[round lake]

Wata dupe

[round lake]

Fr fr

[light basin]

Ig that's my SSS Wata then?

Lame

[stable terrace]

[light basin]

I'm 8/10 on him rn that feels bad

[mighty arch]

I have the new Bianca so uhm.
Should I get Scire or nah

[light basin]

I wouldn't

[peak halo]

No

[light basin]

Ish will be just fine and Daren requires a good amount of investment to be just usable

[young badge]

yes get scire then get another copy of her then pull her weapon then r2

[round lake]

Scire needs SS3 Sig to be considered worth using

[light basin]

And her SS3 lol

[mighty arch]

So...
Who should I get though I'm so lost

[round lake]

Dupe Wata duh

[light basin]

Nothing else rly worth yeah

[round lake]

Nothing else actually worth

[light basin]

[round lake]

Thanks Kuro for double Qu selector

[light basin]

Kill kuro games

[young badge]

triple soon?

[loud carbon]

we got selector again after this patch?

[peak halo]

atleast i get sss qu

[light basin]

Wait hear me out I throw the selector at Alisa Echo and get her to SSS

[young badge]

ill get cw instead

[round lake]

Alisa just died bro

🥀

[peak halo]

If had sss wata already no matter
Free shard anyway

[light basin]

Erm glacio still exists

[round lake]

What's Glaco can we eat it

[light basin]

I don't have SSS yet but very close

I wish it looks yummy

[round lake]

[hazy sandal]

Its glucose

[light basin]

Wait LOL

[limber yoke]

sorry im glucose intolerant

[hazy sandal]

Wth diabetes

[mighty arch]

Went for Wata dupe

[hazy sandal]

Sorry to hear that

[light basin]

Good

[mighty arch]

Ok.
Y'all are not lying, there's nothing in value (except for those who lack frames)

[light basin]

Yeah it's whatever

[spiral phoenix]

Okay so, should I save up my gacha resources for another different unit, I already run Startrail, CW and Feral. (I think?)

[keen sable]

Next week physical surely

[turbid depot]

The what

[rocky wedge]

https://tenor.com/view/dance-gif-3728846036419851071

[turbid depot]

I need hanying I can't brick slash

[rocky wedge]

help me, im always getting gangbanged by high rollers 😭

[crystal rune]

Are you into it tho

[rocky wedge]

kinda

i guess thats why it keeps happening

[hazy sandal]

Sounds horni

[rocky wedge]

i think i might be safe if the other guys below me hit all their zones

[hazy sandal]

Uh huh

Btw I wonder whether glb will still go on for cc beta server

[rocky wedge]

i think i can pass this guy above me as well with ice

[mighty tusk]

surely

[hazy sandal]

I heard some talks that it will be halted

[rocky wedge]

ye i was also curious of this

[mighty tusk]

kuro isn't known for consistency

[rocky wedge]

tho would it have good use here

[hazy sandal]

No

[rocky wedge]

https://tenor.com/view/anime-anime-girl-running-anime-running-running-love-live-gif-22710773

[mighty tusk]

I sure damn hope liv is a glacio amp that will allow 2 rot selena

[hazy sandal]

[rocky wedge]

tho ye I mean we should have it I mean no reason not too besides kuro being kuro Dx

more guessing

[hazy sandal]

Does wuwa have beta server outside of cn

That would probably the answer

Highly likely

[timid hare]

Not meta characters talk, but how much does lower res core skill on Yata improves her barrage.

I'm not familiar with stats, it would be +6 on 19 lv (25), how much percentage increase are we talkin

[fading kestrel]

if its not about meta, dont go to the meta channel
we have an extra channel for questions like this

#📨・general-help

[rocky wedge]

i mean he isnt gonna get an answer to that kinda question there thats valid

[mighty tusk]

omg liv

[rocky wedge]

but also for yata i guess that kinda thing doesnt really matter, it would be mostly if u care about guild leaderboards

[timid hare]

i dont think anyone would know there ;-;

[rocky wedge]

can also try it urself too i guess, not many people care to deep about these characters unless its their debut patch

[timid hare]

uh its moreso because i want to see if i super buff yata on core skill, how much dps can i do with the barrage. Since I assume people here care about stats so i was just wondering if anyone know the percentage increase per level on skills

[rocky wedge]

there was a bot that did but its offline forever now, so u could check with border pact possibly if u can disable and enable the +1

ye u can just unstation the unit on the stat

then put it back and see the diff

[timid hare]

im doing it rn

i did a few tests on dante and yata, after some calcuations i deduced that for yata the increase per level its x1.028

whats more interesting though is that dante increases per level by of x1.05

[rocky wedge]

he is a s rank

[timid hare]

I see.

[rocky wedge]

A ranks are quite weak by a far stretch compared to base S ranks, thats probably part of why tho

[timid hare]

huh you're right

i tested it on lucia dawn

1.052

ig this is also a reason why S ranks are far superior

[rocky wedge]

ahh the A rank one? or u mean pyroath

lucia dawn is A rank

[timid hare]

wait really?

no i tested it on Dawn

[turbid depot]

The S Lucia's are alpha/ploom/Crimson briccmaxxing/pyrooath

[rocky wedge]

this one?

[timid hare]

yea

OH NVM I GET IT

PERCENTAGE DECREASES PER LEVEL

[rocky wedge]

oh my guess was wrong then xd idk

i just use whatever does big dmg

[timid hare]

level 4 -> 5 0.052
level 5 -> 6 0.050
level 6 -> 7 0.045

ig thats fair, since a base stat % increase is gonna destroy the game if you hyperbuff signature moves

[rocky wedge]

cant destroy what is already obliterated xd

[timid hare]

no like

im talking about the absolute insanity that wouldve been the abilities' damage

if its x1.05 per level

lets assume, lucia pyroath deals 3000% attack on ult at lv 1

[rocky wedge]

i was kidding cause this game is dumpster can xd

[timid hare]

if we were to max her to level 25 on sig move through using resonance

we are looking at.... 10160% damage increase...

thats like 1.98 x 10^7 fire dmg, insane.

[ripe stag]

Got a Question

4 Keats 4 DV won't work? Like 10% less buff for more Veronica damage form that 1 rot

Also

4 Keats buff her main damage source right?

[hazy sandal]

Yes but do you really want to do that

[ripe stag]

How big is the boost

Depends on that

Also
DV less Ignition can work?

Like

[ashen parcel]

Curious quetion when somthing says "All Elemental DMG". Physical is included in that too right?

[mighty tusk]

no

[young badge]

no

[ripe stag]

4 Heraclitus 4 Cottie Nanaknight
4 Keats 4 Guinevere Vero
4 Shakes 4 Cottie Dante

[ashen parcel]

Oh i see

[ashen parcel]

ty

[ripe stag]

Elemental means anything non-Physical

[wintry parcel]

Trash

[ripe stag]

Thought so

[hazy sandal]

Do you really want to do that.

[ashen parcel]

Cause i hear people refer to Physical Element and wasnt sure if that was just terms or its actually an element but thank you

[hazy sandal]

I guess not.

[mighty tusk]

it's not

element and physical have very different dmg formulas

[ripe stag]

Too high rank

[proud kettle]

any good vids with vero rot?

[ripe stag]

Maybe high rank strats can use 4 keats

[ripe stag]

Vero in Physical is pretty one 1 rot dip unit

[hazy sandal]

Depends on your rank

[proud kettle]

dlt needed?

[ripe stag]

Wait
SSS vero can do double rot ?

[hazy sandal]

The hell are you late noticing

[ripe stag]

Setsu answering
I'll not cuz he's my dalao

[ripe stag]

No like
I knew she can
But then Hanying goes single rot right?

[proud kettle]

alr so can anyone give me rot for phys

[ashen parcel]

So when it says Amplifiers elemental dmg it doesnt mean her physical?

[hazy sandal]

No you go only one ultimate for physical

[ripe stag]

For here
The description is misleading

• kuro used the general description of Class Passives for all units of the same class

Here they mean she buffs physical normally on swap unless Ignition

[ashen parcel]

Ahhh i see

ok ty

[ripe stag]

I was confused for a second

I know Ignition Vero double ~ triple rot

[ripe stag]

Physical

• Swap in > 2x 3p blue + dodge > yellow > Tap Ult > Tap Yellow > Tap Ult > Swap out

Ignition

• Initial rot (rot 1)
  • Swap in > 2x 3p Blue + dodge > Tap Yellow > Hold Ult > 3x 3p Red > Hold Yellow till she uses up all the red bar > Tap Ult > 2x 3p Blue > Hold Ult > Tap Yellow > Tap Ult > Swap out
  • If you are running no DLT, then she does this rot over and over again
  • If running DLT, she can do triple rot depending on situation - just do the 2nd Hold Ult rot another time before swapping out.

Correct me if I'm wrong setsulao

@hazy sandal please

[wintry parcel]

Our Mr. Moderator cannot compared this

[ripe stag]

Oh so that's why you don't have the cc role

But are you sure you should post your dms here

[hazy sandal]

Wdym

[ripe stag]

I mean normally people don't post their dms

[hazy sandal]

It doesn’t matter when it comes to corp talks

Anyway

[ripe stag]

Hmm true

Anyways

The rot

Please

Check it

[hazy sandal]

[ripe stag]

https://tenor.com/view/forgot-hololive-forgor-rember-gif-1709341021185100527

[ripe stag]

I play Dante in Dante Must Die

[leaden tinsel]

davinci domte

[crystal rune]

4worrywaah

[leaden tinsel]

they need to add lvl2 harmo so it doesn't feel as bad to be forced into dv

[wintry parcel]

Or

Maximum qte buff in 2 Piece instead of 4 Piece

With a new memory set

clueless

[mighty tusk]

harmo lvl 2 costing 75 harmo mats and gives 12% edb

[leaden tinsel]

[mighty tusk]

or deals 12% edr

[hard sparrow]

I checked your account, why didn't you pull for Veronica? (I'm just curious)

[crystal rune]

becuase hes poor

after pulling SSS nanami pwoinvest

[wintry parcel]

He's at 1 black card

[mighty tusk]

[wintry parcel]

broke

Truly pwowq invest

The only one of its kind

[mighty tusk]

I mean, having sss nanami is literally more impactful than having veronica, so I can delay getting her for atleast 3 weeks

[crystal rune]

broke

[mighty tusk]

and I can easily outscore most phy wz

[hard sparrow]

Oh! mb

[wintry parcel]

The Schrodinger invest

He's being whale and poor at the same time

[mighty tusk]

bro I flat out refuse to spend anymore for this game

not when kuro is being a complete d*ck with how they're making these units

also quality control fcking sucks

[hard sparrow]

Yeah, considering that you're good at rotations and builds. I usually check your acc for builds hahaha (sorry about that)

[mighty tusk]

good at rotations
if only I can get 10 mil on glacio rn

[deft apex]

Quality controls sucks cuz whels arent paying well smh

Smoll indie company remember? They need our money

[leaden tinsel]

i have a question
what is quality control

[mighty tusk]

they got their money with dmc
so they can afford to lower the quality

[hard sparrow]

Dude, the mobs are the problem not you. If it's single mob I have no doubt that you can get even higher than that

[deft apex]

Taking notes

[mighty tusk]

no typos, no bugs, no translation issues

sensible number kits

[deft apex]

No gameplay bugs, some also exclusive to glb

No extra bugs exclusive to glb

[mighty tusk]

balancing units and NOT around the collab unit

[deft apex]

[meager cypress]

This ain't related to meta, but is it impossible to get the Love Story Background directly? Like buy it using RC, instead of pulling for it? Last time the Luna's Witch Background you could buy it from shop, wonder if the Love Story Background has the same acquiring method?

The "Love Story Across Time" Scene Background

[mighty tusk]

no choice but to gacha that one

[trim apex]

It’s gacha only afaik

[meager cypress]

It's on Stellar Memories if anyone's wondering

[hard sparrow]

You have to pull it, that's what I did

[leaden tinsel]

i see yeah kuro very lazy

[meager cypress]

Fukkk, no other way to get that awesome background??

[hard sparrow]

I really hope I can get a lot of vouchers in this patch hehehe, so I can SSS liv

[trim apex]

Kicks out Dante and takes Vergil to the moon

[mighty tusk]

I mean...stuff like these exists

[mighty tusk]

now we should prob expect changes in ppc like what they did with wz back then

[crystal rune]

only hell stage exists now

[mighty tusk]

include IB ppc

[meager cypress]

Is Veronica that bad

[leaden tinsel]

also they been using chat gpt to translate the story from around ch 25+ i'm pretty sure
i can feel the strong gpt accent

[hard sparrow]

Yes, but not really

[trim apex]

Yeah, and it’s pretty reasonable take as well. Vero is a skip for me

[mighty tusk]

dmg is mid, but her buffs are still relevant

also sss veronica can kick dante out of burn teams

[trim apex]

Lmao

[hard sparrow]

If Vero is a dark tank, I bet no one would dare to even think of skipping her

[crystal rune]

make her SS3 have shred field again

[leaden tinsel]

next dark tank wont kill scire

[trim apex]

Dark zone 20mil+ if that’s true

[meager cypress]

Hmm so between Bianca and Veronica, who should I pull in the current banner?

[crystal rune]

no different from daren

both

Thumbb

[mighty tusk]

still pull on both

but get bianca first

[wintry parcel]

That's a delulu team

[leaden tinsel]

dante holds dv

[meager cypress]

So Bianca higher priority? I don't have enough pulls to get both pitied

[hard sparrow]

Bianca obviously, since she replaced lamia by a huge margin and she introduced a new affix

[mighty tusk]

you can get both, just dont pull any 6* weap nor cubs for now

[trim apex]

Vero would hold DV in a Dante team, replaces 4 keats

[meager cypress]

But I have lamia SSS invested, should I still pull Bianca?

[crystal rune]

HUH

[hard sparrow]

I thought you're a newbie... Why do you have SSS lamia?

[trim apex]

Yes. Not even the same magnitude of dmg (hyperbole)

[meager cypress]

I got tons of free S selectors since a few months ago, like come on you can get her from those S selectors lol

[mighty tusk]

also bianca's dmg distribution is way better than lamia's backloaded dmg

[hard sparrow]

Oh no, you should have prioritize a better construct

[crystal rune]

WorryKnows

[meager cypress]

Damn did I just waste all the free S selectors then? Lmao

[young badge]

yeah

[hard sparrow]

Yes...

[crystal rune]

LamiaCry

[mighty tusk]

you can always test it in wz, but since bianca has an affix, she will have content later on

lamia has none

[leaden tinsel]

does kuro work on weekend
ig lilith vero skin on monday

[meager cypress]

Okay thank you guys, will pull Bianca but I think I may skip Vero since it's not enough for 2 pity

[leaden tinsel]

well if you have sss lamia might be better to pull vero first
depending on your alisa invest

[cold walrus]

everyone vergiling plasma

[mighty tusk]

told ya vergil with veronica will swipe monzano and veronica ppc away from their respective affix teams

[meager cypress]

Not a lot but she's there, my physical team on the other hand....

[cold walrus]

should pull s+ vergil instead of selena

[trim apex]

Yeah about that…

[mighty tusk]

if kuro completely kills off-element in ppc, you can blame dmc for that

[young badge]

[crystal rune]

.3x dmg penalty in ppc now broke

[trim apex]

Bow down to Vergil sama

[ripe stag]

Oh they finally killed offelement'ing?

[mighty tusk]

not yet, but the current situation is already similar to what nier did

nier was a wz thing back then, now dmc is a ppc thing

and you can bet people are still gonna justify dmc meta

let's not forget the future alpha frame

[ripe stag]

Wasn't nier also being used for ppc offelement

Nuke 2B kill

[mighty tusk]

that idk

[limpid flare]

where to check character builds now that bot is deactivated ?

Need builds for Aegis and Crepuscule

[fluid crow]

Is S Veronica good enough? Also without her wep?

[ashen parcel]

Definitly not

Hey guys i got a quetion

When it says for 8s (10s cooldown)
The 10s starts when the buff starts or after it ends?

[mighty tusk]

when it starts

[noble zinc]

[leaden tinsel]

stop eating fat whel

leave some crumbs for the poor

[ashen parcel]

Doesnt that mean its more like 2s CD since you only have 2's after the 8s of the buff before you refresh it

not complaining just find that funny

[mighty tusk]

roughly yea

[ashen parcel]

Ty for the clarification

[crystal rune]

fatass

slap

[noble zinc]

@karmic anvil bully!

[crystal rune]

Choking

[naive apex]

What's the ignition rotation with SSS Dante now? Do you use 1 or 2 ults? How about which Veronica rotation?

[noble zinc]

no one plays vero with dante

no info

info there but idk if accurate

[crystal rune]

SADDIES

washed goat

[naive apex]

Why would you kick out Veronica and not Vera?

[noble zinc]

No it's dante who getskicked

[naive apex]

Pretty sure with SSS he's still doing more damage

[noble zinc]

If vertical invest maybe

[naive apex]

Yes, that vertical investment is called... SSS

[noble zinc]

Even invest like 333 all going out with vero

wait until burn comes out

zone

[crystal rune]

unless they meant like 322 then you gotta just cook smth yourself

4worrywoke

[mighty tusk]

looks like the usual TS invest that I see in hero

[noble zinc]

[crystal rune]

4worrywaah

[naive apex]

I bet the next burn zone has some bonus that gives a bigger damage boost to vero than dante anyway, because new character shilling

[noble zinc]

Weather does play factor

Still

20mil with dante was like peak balding after done

24.6 smthing chill

[naive apex]

Guess you're right that it's better to wait until people start malding ignition zone to actually have people trying the rotations

[mighty tusk]

what did vero actually bring to burn that is not dmg?

burn meter refresh or something?

[crystal rune]

yea and stacks increase too

[zenith thorn]

omg nudelao helper

[trim apex]

1 ult rot for Dante, 1 for Vero, 2 ult for Nana.

[noble zinc]

I don't know everything now abt her slacking

[manic juniper]

Heard Dante changes his memory set with Veronica. Does that change still apply even if he's SSS? Vero will just be SS

[zenith thorn]

teaxh me how to pgr pls nudelao

[mighty tusk]

no rights for you

[noble zinc]

[crystal rune]

4worrywaah

[zenith thorn]

you cheater
u no rights

who this infidel trynna speak to me

[naive apex]

Dante doesn't really have alternatives. I mean, I guess you could toss out Cottie if you're doing only 1 ult, but I'm not sure making him slower is efficient

[mighty tusk]

atleast I dont quit either

[zenith thorn]

https://tenor.com/view/nerd-well-actually-as-a-matter-of-fact-gif-27665011

[trim apex]

That, plus increasing ignition stacks after it’s activated. Increase to DoT. Increase to base dmg. Buff to ignition damage that stacks with fire dmg buffs from Vera.

[zenith thorn]

u rn

[stoic rapids]

guys question. for vero ppc she goes 4phil2keats2rich? if hanying is on 4dv2cath2volt

[crystal rune]

rich?

[stoic rapids]

richeliu

[crystal rune]

oh 5*

that works

[stoic rapids]

hmm okay so she needs 3 sets in total

4dv2keats2phil - phys wz
4phil2keats2rich - phys ppc
4shakes4cot - burn stuff

[manic juniper]

So, still 4pc Cottie then, instead of 2pc ignition and 2pc ignition for Harmo

[hazy sandal]

No

• 4keats for ib ppc

[stoic rapids]

oh???

[hazy sandal]

[trim apex]

I thought you go 2 Hercsh 2 Keats on Dante now

[empty slate]

which is bottom on veronica? da vinci or keats?

[hazy sandal]

Note that the 2/2 burn set has the bug right now
It doesn’t help dante at all

[trim apex]

DV gives you slightly more atk I think

[lament cloud]

Who should i get this patch and i still have blue card selector gacha, who i need to pull

[naive apex]

Doesn't Hanying need her unique set to function?

[trim apex]

Oh wth Kuro

[hazy sandal]

【【战双】关于但丁无法吃到新意识二件套加成的bug-哔哩哔哩】 https://b23.tv/94qoOh0

[manic juniper]

Wrong wording on my end, sorry I'm running him 4pc Cottie rn, and am wondering if with Vero, that changes now

[hazy sandal]

Watch this.

[trim apex]

If you are new and don’t have many characters, I recommend you get Ishmael or Luna.

[stoic rapids]

hiii setsu. so then she needs 4 sets?? cause in ib hanying goes back on her sig set+cat+cottie no? i see your sheet showing cath on vero for ppc but then what does hanying have on? im confused sorry. this is all assuming a 333 team, no vergil

[hazy sandal]

[deft apex]

Finally dps bug?

[hazy sandal]

Only in ib ppc

[upbeat orchid]

Geiravor's signature weapon got me one extra wave in Hero Fire Warzone, from 20 to 21

[hazy sandal]

Else no.

[trim apex]

Vero in a Dante team? Or Vero Nana Vera team?

[stoic rapids]

cath on vero in IB only? okay but then what does hanying have? if vero carries the cath. i used to put cath on hanying

[stoic rapids]

4 DARWIN

[empty slate]

wait in the vero guide it says class passive, is that core passive or class skill?

[hazy sandal]

4 DARWIN

[trim apex]

Class skill

[deft apex]

4 DARWIN

[stoic rapids]

im just shocked. i dont think i have ever used 4dw before

[trim apex]

4 DARWIN?!?!

[stoic rapids]

chill guys omgggg

[deft apex]

Yea me too, but where's 4 darwin?

[crystal rune]

wheres the 4dw

[hazy sandal]

Lmao

[stoic rapids]

wait thats dv

[trim apex]

Bro is blind

[crystal rune]

thats da vinki

[stoic rapids]

it's just so smol my brain mixed it up

[crystal rune]

WorryTiredOfYourShit

[stoic rapids]

okay okay okay

[deft apex]

4dvv

[trim apex]

Da Vinki !?!?!

[karmic anvil]

nergi is my vice, i allow him to do it

[stoic rapids]

so 4 sets afterall. for normal ppc she subs the cath for richelieu

[crystal rune]

aww thanks babes

[noble zinc]

@crystal rune bully!

[empty slate]

what weap res for vero ss3?

[crystal rune]

joined guild for 7 days and promoted to vice Thumbb

[crystal rune]

pepe_point_laugh

[stoic rapids]

amp stuff i assume

[noble zinc]

Pak you both

[stoic rapids]

she doesnt really need dlt does she

[noble zinc]

Bully

[crystal rune]

for 3 rot she does

[crystal rune]

Sad_cat

im sowwy

[empty slate]

ok dlt it is

[unborn hound]

bruh i never been this poor in my history of playing this game

[stoic rapids]

ah for burn? sure. she doesnt run amp resos in burn anyway cause vera runs them. but for phys she doesnt need dlt so overall r2 is enough

[crystal rune]

ss3??

[karmic anvil]

[crystal rune]

broke

[karmic anvil]

how kj's account looks normally:

[stoic rapids]

if i move a htuned memo onto another unit and re-reso it will the htune apply to the new unit?

[crystal rune]

yea if you dont have 3S tank then she needs dlt broke

[crystal rune]

yes

[stoic rapids]

i have 333 teams

[crystal rune]

thats what ppl do to conserve resources

[manic juniper]

Vero in a Dante team

[unborn hound]

no

[crystal rune]

oh

[stoic rapids]

marvelous. then vero officially inherits hanying's 2cath

[crystal rune]

4worrywaah

[trim apex]

Keep 4 cottie on Dante for now. Vero goes 4 gui 4 DV

[deft apex]

She also inherited hanying's booba monster qualities

Pak genetics

[noble zinc]

[karmic anvil]

[manic juniper]

So, she's not gonna see much field time. Just the one rotation and switch back to Nanami

[noble zinc]

【维吉尔不在 我就是无敌哒!-哔哩哔哩】 https://b23.tv/uLLGFOU

[crystal rune]

donte 4worrywaah

[noble zinc]

Wtf

[trim apex]

One full rot where she stacks her passive and 2nd ult, so she can buff the ignition stacks and dmg

[karmic anvil]

peter already shared sht similar to this

[trim apex]

What the hell is this?!??

[noble zinc]

[azure lynx]

Out of curiosity, what level of investment would a veronica have to have to outscore a sss+ dante for ignition?

[crystal rune]

Susge~1

[karmic anvil]

[trim apex]

SSS

[azure lynx]

Damn, sss can beat a sss+ dante? Lucky I got a bit spooked by veronica on my pulls then

Thanks for the heads up:)

[stoic rapids]

why the heck are exclusive memo sets still limited to 3 omggg

[trim apex]

For wz tho. Also depends on the number of mobs per wave and the weather. Don’t feel like you have to pull/skip, just pull as much as you can afford/want to

[azure lynx]

I'm a heavy spender, and had already prepared a reasonable amount of bc and such for this sync patch - out of curiosity, if I wanted to get one unit between bianca crepuscule or veronica to sss+, what do you think is more worth it in the longer run?

[misty stump]

Is Karenia still BiS tank for a dark team

[stoic rapids]

sadly yes

[misty stump]

Huh

[trim apex]

Bianca. Bianca has really high dmg ratios, and is also a well made character by Kuro.

[misty stump]

Does No 21 even compete

[trim apex]

No unfortunately

[stoic rapids]

not at all

[misty stump]

I see

[leaden tinsel]

ishmael is the competitor and 3S wata/nana

[azure lynx]

@trim apex cheers for all the valuable info - I was leaning more towards her, because i have enough shards and such to push someone to sss+ potentially, and i do think veronica's design is a bit more...simplistic in terms of gameplay

[misty stump]

Wata Epitaph?

[azure lynx]

Or maybe ill just wait until I see what vera is packing

Not vera, new liv, sorry

[leaden tinsel]

bianca is bonkers

with new gen dark tank will be prob highest scoring team

[leaden tinsel]

but liv could be good too yeah

[crystal rune]

i will cope that new dark tank will make the team worse

[misty stump]

Also is Rosetta any good anymore, or is Hanying better in every way

[azure lynx]

Hanying powercreeped Rosetta completely, I think - its a shame coz I love her scifi robot body design

[trim apex]

Veronica has been criticized for lacking in gameplay/animation/vfx design. The new Liv frame could be something to look forward to, since she’s the anniversary release this year. Cheers to you🍻

[leaden tinsel]

but why

[crystal rune]

free show

WorryPopCorn

[leaden tinsel]

[misty stump]

Ahh, unfortunate, I don’t have hanying, but ill keep an eye out for a rerun

[misty stump]

Usually coatings fix all of the above

Well maybe not gameplay

[azure lynx]

Rosetta as physical shred can work in the meantime, and PGR does love to pop out character selectors more than you'd expect

[trim apex]

Can’t fix the base gameplay design tho

[azure lynx]

Anniversary usually means selector banners too, right?

[leaden tinsel]

usually yeah

[misty stump]

I unfortunately used the selectors this patch trying to regain a foothold in the meta fire team

[trim apex]

Not guaranteed. There is no official info about that.

[leaden tinsel]

khaled typing he will say s+ liv

[azure lynx]

I miss being able to plan and prepare for units ages ahead with foresight - but then again, i tend to overthink that kind of thing

[unborn hound]

wanshi is too op bruh

[leaden tinsel]

wanshi meta yeah

[unborn hound]

planning be like:

pull every unit

[misty stump]

Yeah, I came back after a year and there was no longer a roadmap, nor are they buffing old units anymore

[frank kindle]

where is lilith skin btw

[azure lynx]

@unborn hound id prepare bundles and spending carefully for the best value bundles, so i could get sss+ the units i really wanted later

[frank kindle]

shouldnt we have it with veronica release

[deft apex]

Ur imagination

[leaden tinsel]

its a weekend wait till monday

[frank kindle]

its not even there wtf

[misty stump]

I remember being excited for Selena Tempest and now trancendants as a whole are being left in the dust

[unborn hound]

how much u got on ion and fire?

[leaden tinsel]

#📨・general-help message not the only thing they missed

[frank kindle]

time to kiwi fr

[leaden tinsel]

i barely played 5.45m ion 5.9m fire

[south oar]

what harmony does lilith need?

[crystal rune]

watapak SADDIES

why dat fire solow

[frank kindle]

im bricked fr

[leaden tinsel]

too much work this week

[crystal rune]

Frog_WorryPat

[leaden tinsel]

22.32 112 and it was my first time playing wata at all

[neon hollow]

cottie

[young badge]

me too

[unborn hound]

bro about to do a galactic snipe

[south oar]

thanks

[crystal rune]

you can probably go 730w+

[young badge]

i cant

[frank kindle]

no i wont

[crystal rune]

broke

[frank kindle]

u didnt read names, didnt u

[young badge]

15m

[leaden tinsel]

nice strat of late bracket

[frank kindle]

its whatever

ill let that acc rot soon

[leaden tinsel]

lowkey if i malded mine and some people slacc could retain

[azure lynx]

PGR is the eternal reminder of skill issues - especially in my own case

[zealous comet]

Gen 3 still has skill issue?

[trim apex]

What server do you play? Global don’t have that many players so if you are a 🐳 you don’t need to try that hard to retain in legend wz

[azure lynx]

SEA

[leaden tinsel]

yeah pgr is like chess you know

[azure lynx]

And my skill issues still need a lot of work - but work and family matters been making things more complicated

So I usually just do a few runs then clock off

[leaden tinsel]

find a pilot (jk)

[trim apex]

Touch grass gaming

[crystal rune]

4worrywaah

[young badge]

nergi pilot

[azure lynx]

Copium vs hopium gaming:p

[crystal rune]

broke

[young badge]

[karmic anvil]

[crystal rune]

Binoculars

[karmic anvil]

[crystal rune]

WorrySad

[azure lynx]

Tbh if someone really knew what they were doing with my account, probably could reliably stay in top 100 if not top 50 at least

[young badge]

[crystal rune]

you 3S whel or smth

if so then yea easy top 20

[trim apex]

I’m curious what’s you in-game id?

[azure lynx]

I'm a pretty heavy spender

[karmic anvil]

[crystal rune]

account stalking

[azure lynx]

Part of why I got enough shards i can trade in to help get a unit to sss+

[crystal rune]

Susge~1

[misty stump]

Is the current best idea to have 2 dark, 2 fire and 2 physical teams cuz they all got two of each amplifier

[karmic anvil]

already in mercuryw guild

[azure lynx]

Ingame id, like account name or user id no?

[trim apex]

[karmic anvil]

just

[trim apex]

The number next to your username

[azure lynx]

14905565

[crystal rune]

PepeOh

such whel activities

[trim apex]

Private dalao

[unborn hound]

holy

[karmic anvil]

[azure lynx]

Disabled it a while ago and forgot how to turn it off

[unborn hound]

pray he sucks unbelievable ass at other zones

[crystal rune]

worryNope

[frank kindle]

he almost retains with just one zone, no matter what i do i'll lose kek

[crystal rune]

Frog_WorryPat

[trim apex]

Tough bracket

[frank kindle]

more like doom bracket

[azure lynx]

@crystal rune i figured it out but please, no screenshots. Still a bit shy about it

[crystal rune]

no problem 4worrywoke

[azure lynx]

Enabled the members showing now

[unborn hound]

send 5 billion screenshots

[crystal rune]

itll take a bit for huaxu to update worryNodders

[leaden tinsel]

ill screenshot for personal use

[crystal rune]

wdym personal use LuciaThinking

[trim apex]

No booly dalao

[azure lynx]

@leaden tinsel are you worried you'll run into me in warzone or something?

[unborn hound]

[cold walrus]

haha that acc is in your bracket again. i piloted this zone

[frank kindle]

[unborn hound]

show wz scores

[crystal rune]

is that the account you posted fire score on

[leaden tinsel]

no im eu

[frank kindle]

freaking airplanes all around

[crystal rune]

4worrywaah

[cold walrus]

2nd place was piloted too, by glaciogod

[crystal rune]

i thought the score looked a little familiar

[azure lynx]

Haven't done all my warzones and my scores are still pretty mid right now, nothing really worth showing right now imo

[frank kindle]

i'd easily overtake senken, but kopeh and moonlight is another caliber for me

[cold walrus]

it is actually koren, not kopeh. cyrillic issue

[frank kindle]

also that guy is sus

hidden acc; 2month badge time

[cold walrus]

your bracket is doomed

[leaden tinsel]

means root

[frank kindle]

i kiwi soon anyways

[crystal rune]

Susge~1

[frank kindle]

https://tenor.com/view/wuthering-waves-wuwa-eos-gif-17404615508879546597

[crystal rune]

such an early retirement

broke

[karmic anvil]

[crystal rune]

i respect it 4worrywoke