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hanying doesn't hold dv? I thought Vero deals more than hanying 
Not really for lower ranks
nah
Think 2pc sig could work as an alternative for cottie? Or does she need cottie to functon in ignition
NOW I'M CONFUSED ABOUT SS0 VERONICA'S RESO FOR IGNITION
so SS0 Vero holds dv?
@frank kindle got any idea
what u want 2pc sig for in ignition tf
welcome to CN life mtfk

check dm
from now on this place will be busy, nice
The coper will still say "This is better than knowing"
Like do they know how much resource we have to waste now
veronica already here?
Was just considering as an option so i didnt have to invest into more memories for veronica
what the veronica build lookin like?
I have dante
Veronica Resonance is Atk and Class Skill right?
Its why i asked
trying to figure that out ngl
Vero build on Grayravens come check it
copied from CN it seems, should be fine
SS3 hanying vs SSS veronica who is DV holder ?
in penguin we trust
what mem reso on vero?
Well time to work Mr.mod
🤙
TL;DR:
Vero is a phys fraud so she's using 2 Keat 2 Philip 4 DV
For Ignition it's Shake Cottie
Surely you can help us with a concrete answer
Shake Cottie for Ignition Sub dps not sup(?)
this is not universal build cause I saw PPC builds too 
ye but does ss vero even bench ss3 dante
Good question
Did a 30 on Fate got none 
good question we don't know
Skill issue 
I'll just pull on anniv char
bro this seems sketchy asf
main* DPS build
dunno if that applies to Dante SS3 tho
hmm thats why i put dv main mem and keats reso mem lol
can easily switch if vero doesnt bench dante
if she does it is what it is
Prob not if Dante on sss
we're in the blind age guys
I have SSS Dante so, i don't think it applies to me anyway
i said ss3 xd
seems about right
I read it wrong mb

cute
But ss3 vera is prob better than ss3 dante anyway
why would i even be asking if i got ss3
_surely that's true and not partially misleading _
did setsu doc update about Vero

When will beta start? 
Do you think im inside your house lil bro? You think I know you?
Be for real with yourself
easiest chraacter to play istg
Me looking at people suffering with Vero build
Meanwhile I'm skipping that fraud 
Vera exists
this means 4dv 4 keats?seems sus man
in 1 week I think
Yeah sus
theyre on the same level
Veranica
But u can test
hey, which cub is more worth? for Veronica or Bianca?
Geiravor aegis

I dont even know anymore welp
bianca
Since 2.0 team phys vero can deals gud dmg
Bianca
just Harmon Keat so u can change it just in case
that's the general build
okay, thanks
is it okay to use this if i'm lazy ass and will never swap her memories?
thats what i did xd
PPC wont use Vero DPS so she should be back to Philip ig
still seems sus
yeah seems good for both teams
it's a general build
good to know, thanks
what's sus? it's a general build, not for anything specific like support or main dps
Now that you've accepted the truth, time to just sit and let the chaos commence
isnt it funny how the most linear unit have the most builds
GIB FRAME NOW
10th anni unit trust
more like eos unit
It's quite funny to see
4dv and 2 sig 
What's the chance next frame is tank 
she's done we can one tap phys wz now 
I thought 10th anni unit was your mom
Just got aegis so
Pull for SS or get sig?
Just ppc the SS
SS is free with skulls
pulling sss davinci bot 🐳
yeah because 2 set piece gives the same as 4 sig on alisa
read
how many times do i have to pull a character to SSS it?
Well yeah ik I could ss3 with it so
Game decided to randomly give a ton of Hyperreal shards while I was pulling Veronica. So now somehow I have SS3 Lee. Lol.
its liv bruh wad f do u expect
total of 5 if you don't own them already
Nirvatia playable when
If next char is ampli on beta imma pull for Veroro
counting the PPC Skulls?^
yes
gib her not liv
liv lightning amp , radiance amp and dorm unit, trust
damn


vero bot reso is ult right?
Liv probably is dorm unit if they're teasing her for NEXT patch. Rather than 2 away
delulu
nvm it's 3 with skulls because
from S to SS: 30 shards
from SS to SSS: 90 shards
that means you can deduct 30 shards and only need 90 aka 3 copies
ice amp and paid
So what kind of team build should I go for again
Ice amp and free
One can wish
it depends
which team are you talking about?
so i pull a total of 4 from 0 owned

liv is like top 3 most popular character in pgr
Paid Phys TS Amp
stronger than Keklena, Virgin
How much for Selena outfit?
no way she is gonna be free
damn.. i could try and go for veronica SSS... i already got her 3 times...
4shakes 4cottie if swap with nanami and no dante
6atk 6ult
One can dream 
she prints money
I am told to go for tank and amp, I run with Crimson Weave atm, someone told me I should not run with all on fighters.
i want to replace alisa now, my alisa is ss4)3
its me
i said to not run all attackers
4 keats and 2 davinci for veronica, is it good guys? im planning to go for ignition
General use is 4p dv 4p sig 
cuz they garbo
Let me tell u about a simple fact in this game
Tank > Amp > Attacker
Imma cope with you 
Dont run any attackers
They are trash
Two tanks is the dream
still sad abt the bot for builds
in term of team importance, Attackers are a bunch of frauds
alright let me provide input
you are talking about lightning team
you should go for max profit with selectors, and not backpull as a newbie
a regular team consists of tank, amplifier, attacker
the latter can be exchanged for a different unit depending on who the main DPS is
lightning team currently consists of Lucia: CW, No. 21: Feral, Nanami: Startrail
you can get all of them for free. Nanami from the base banner/thunderbolt manual research selector.
CW and Feral from the thunderbolt manual missions, and bp
holy kekery
Literally anything is above attackers
They literally have zero things going for them
So except for igni dv stays in all builds 

build for aegis?
if veronica is not ignition main dps then it stays in ignition too I think
?
you need a dv holder after all
Oh ye igni supp hold dv too
i think even vanguard have a better class skill or something
@orchid owl do i go for SSS Veronica yes or no (full on gamble)
they didnt get us pick affix before
or did they?
Prob lol
They did
they did
Whats the build for veronica in both igni and physical
It was just kinda buggy with 3 lucia icons
ah i guess i never used a team with more than one affix type
if you are f2p no
if you are spender/whel and can allow it, sure
she is a gen 3 amplifier, so resets QTE timer on swap which is very good, it would benefit phys and ignition, aswell as any cope team with oblivion
Wait why is there a vero phy dps build 
same i ended up sitting at ss5 Qu
Aegis's sig a must?
she is a physical amplifier with ignition affix
Selena is mid
4p Patton 4p Keats

I got the Tier B Nanami Storm rn though
mhhhhh
Wep resonance?
look at the picture
I know but cn wiki has a phy dps build for some reason
ah u mean wep i cant read
unfortunately she doesn't work in lightning team, due to the fact that she is a physical unit, not lightning.
go for nanami: startrail, she is superior in every way, and essentially free
dlt
Do I swap in Ignition team if Nanami is 3S, Wata is SS3, Vero is SS and Vera is SS?
What reso for Vero in Phys and Ignition? Also what set and which top and bot? 
Hmmm, where do I even get her?
probably because hanying is ass and will/can turn into dv holder in phys team
Omg I hope it's legit 
for ignition @echo current
any amp reso for phys
as I've told you earlier:
thunderbolt manual research, if you can get the core reward (selector)
or
basic banner (blue ticket banner) selector, and pulling until you get her (preferably only use blue tickets)
1st ultimate wing spreading finisher
What should i put into Nanaknight weapon. Is it Death Line timing or what?
What skill should I put on Vera: Geiravor's weapon for the Fire team?
*what Memory
I failed the 80/20 for Veronica's weapon and got Geiravor's weapon which I planned to pull for anyway :D
That build is good for SS0 vero?
Got it
Domain Destruction if used as tank
Dead Line Timing if used as main DPS in war zone
Matrix Lightning if used for PPC clear
PPC context
failed succesfully
Lmao yeah
and what would wz build look like?
Search harmo sheet
People still use Electric team, Like what Team? Isn't Feral and Alpha wasn't that good of a unit
Already listed all of it
So that build work in both ppc and WZ huh 
when will solacetune rerun any ideas?
What sets do I give Veronica?
Wait PPC is 4 Philip 2 Cath 2 Keats? Huh 
My brain gonna fry cuz of indecisiveness 
why decide when you can build all
Gib mats 
get your own mats
there u go
fk whel
Ill get vero sig next week I think
Oh damn didn't know I had this little of skulls
nuke busts my mats everytime he gets in my account
I thought I was atleast at 3k
like bruh
whats veros teams
for physical and burn
Thanks, gib account now so I can use them 
Now that I think about it
hanying and selena
and vera/watanbe and nanami
A new patch just dropped, but the chat feels lifeless, no hype, barely any activity. Messages are barely moving, and no one’s even showing that they’ve pulled Veronica. Is PGR dying? Wake up, guys. Veronica is here!
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A new patch just dropped, but the chat feels lifeless, no hype, barely any activity. Messages are barely moving, and no one’s even showing that they’ve pulled Veronica. Is PGR dying? Wake up, guys. Veronica is here!
where can I find a good verconica rot guide for SSS
elaborate
I was talking about nanami's seperate roles, she is used as a tank for ignition
she is used as main DPS in lightning, her damage is so much larger than feral's or cw's that you should just solo her
as for PPC, quick kills matter more so matrix lightning is better if you are missing damage on some tankier bosses like cradle
This is kinda funny
SSS rank leaped Echo has 10% more Physical buff from the leap upgrade compared to SS rank Veronica
But because of Veronica only need 2 Piece memory for her Critical buff, she can make up that 10% Physical buff with Phillip II
Echo is truly dead
Echo is only a Glaico unit

well my vera is using shakes would that still be ok if both the characters use the same memory set or how does it work
already discounted cause u help in other game
she would use 4dv 4guin
What I mean is Lighting Team as a whole, like does Feral and Alpha just being used as a fodder ?
What's standard support set rot vs. cottie rot? Was one of them better than the other for you so far?
pretty much
even at SSS or SSS+ they are nothing more than qte bots
cw may go on field one time just to get the QTE damage boost but nothing else
Also holy builds why do all physical units need like 8 builds
That doesn't mean shiz, n if ur feeling grateful that I help in other stuff then u should gib ur account for free 
i dont have the mats for this
Oh ok
Time to ht them all
single vs double
Stigmata complete set.png PTSD
I have a bunch but I'm getting worried about how I use them I'll actually have to calculate how much I have to avoid overdoing it

This was the beginning of it all LMAO
and single is just tap yellow rot not even full hold yellow
Ooooh where sheet link?
see setsulao has the answer here
would give u half of the coins if I could
I didn't get her, I'm at 31 researched atm
on vero right ?
Maybe that's why peeps go full S+ units cuz less builds needed 
Are you genuinely asking or
Pookie idek what's single rot yet 
Yes
no? lol
How long till the 3x ends?
vera
good luck u guys
Okie
How so?
lilith drip tho
Unfortunately sir, most of the people in here in incapable of basic literature comprehension. Your efforts would be valued more somewhere else at this rate 
whats the build for the physical support veronica
if u pay attention to health bar with her theres some pretty great dmg being dealt without doing anything
Ty is this even pinned here btw?
Ye
Just scroll down in pins and start reading
pins too cluttered imo
SSS rank Echo isn't really better than SS rank Veronica, at this point it's better to invest on Veronica and let Echo rot as a Glacio unit
True
the rotting will only last 1.5 month more when liv takes the stage 
wouldn't it be easier fo u guys to make 2 new channels like
updates and maintenance info
guides or smt as post channel
I'm currently missing the signature weapons of Parhelion, Startrail, Solacetune and Shukra. Which should I get first?
Whats Galbrena build and resonances and what wep res?

Isn't that a WuWa character? lol
VERONICA*

Idek maybe
Sorry, too much WUWA
Physical: 4 da vinci, 2 keats, 2 catherine. If Solacetune is running Catherine then 2 Philip in harmony. +15 atk, class skill. Ignition: 4 davinci, 2 einstein, 2 guinavere.
Will SS0 Vero help triple S Nanami or I should just stick to Lilith solo Nanami despair 🤔
Should’ve been make lower the bar to dora and boots lvl
From Spider 2B's video
No Shake for Ignition?
Is it because Vera runs it?
Idk what Shake is lol I'm quoting Spider 2B
Oh, thanks
Y'all I am so broke rn, got 5 million cogs and NO hypertune crystals
Nanami and Veronica methinks, could get geiravor instead of vero though
Show account
Fk whel
Sorry unc, pulled fate cause i already had 40 pity
I also have 360 reso shards who do i use it on
fate deniers will never know this feeling
Fkin whel 🐳
Long term the general 2 best options here are PROBABLY Nanami and Geiravor
Yay I'm not washed
Ishmael sig is good too but its value also depends on whether you're lacking units that she can substitute
Are ya winning son
you whel i f2p
My recommendations are still good
Real
Has zexous still jot come back
whats the name of vero's sig memories?
No he's still buying the milk since 2015
Keats or something
if u have the luck to get an early in fate u can get one in themed
thanks
Will SS0 Vero help triple S Nanami or I should just stick to Nanami solo on burn 
thats not how that works
it is gamba is gamba
cant relate i 10 pulled feral on debut and hit early 10s
done 
I couldn't recognise her affix though
What memory sets are y'all using?

did i brick pulling veronica
My alisa only ss0r0 so vero will be a huge upgrade

Bruh I just got her after a hard pity 
watapak goodnight r2 ss0 echo
right?
this assumes you'd go to 60 on every copy tho 
wat
poistive compared to the other banner right
well yeah, thats how pgr works. 60 on normal banner is how it goes for the most part
Help plsss
so thats my assumption when doing my sheet
Even if you account for the extremely rare early on themed
Idk I haven't built veronica yet
does veronica get field time for physical team
oh wait i put 4k not 4200 i am a bozo
Your alisa is ss0r2?
yeah
What rank
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@formal radish i assume 600 pulls for an S+ using themed for this sheet
watafak
bruh
ive never felt the need to swap to echo though
solacetune and selena rota ends just as the cd ends
Then you're slow
How long is selena rot
enough to cram the last hold dodge into amp buff window
Nvm idk how long ss3 selena should be
But you don't have sss hanying which means your selena rotation is FIFTEEN FCKING SECONDS???
Also your hanying rot is 15 seconds?
is it
You're too slow then
Her rotation is 10s MAX.
:hmmsleeper:
2rotation in 10s easily
tbf i dont bother with rota streamlining
Selena rot should also be 10s no?
Nah even sss team has some Alisa field time and that's with cd reduction
I see
12s max iirc
im 50/50 freestyling the rota based on what i remember
If he can fit the last hold dodge in the amp buff then how is his rot 15 seconds???
What's he doing with the 3-4 seconds?
Just fcking around
Idek 😭
i ult with selena then switch
what's vero's r1?
Which ult and what do you do before it
What does this mean
He holds basic for both 3p before ult1
tryst

switch > 3 ping > hold > ult 1 > white orb clear > hold dodge > ult 2 > 3 ping > hold > ult 1 > hold dodge > ult 2 > switch
reso. idk I'll just pick anything for now it can be changed anyway
whats vero dps set for physical if selena does not exist?
whatever lets me retain and clear :hmmsleeper:
Your selena exists tho
Vero damage is scam
She's ss05*
ss3 hanying stronger then ss0 vero?
What does that translate to
Just go glorious spear for now
SS0 Vero isn't even stronger than SS0 Hanying iirc
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Oh right jambu wtf are u doing here
P sure she should be
so whats vero set for dps then when i dont have selena running with hanying and alisa
Well depending on which strat though
And whether it's worth fielding her long enough for it
There's no way this takes 15s
Unless you take a snack break between inputs 😭
I don't know
But
My initial experience with Veronica (SS0 R3 CUB)
- Physical - I feel scammed
- Ignition - good
Are you sure you did the right stuff in physical
She seems really confusing lol
can i change the memory resonance of alisa's signa and give it to aegis? i won't be using her physical now right?
He waits for ult to finish before holding dodge
Is that Veronica's set?
idk signa is the one that boosts cr by 75%
Signa is alisa's set so there is no point + vero sig is superior, gives the same boost at 2 pc
Still that's only barely -1s 😭
alright thank you
bot is ded?
Whats veros DPS Set for physical If i Run her with hanying and alisa
Signa doesn't even work for Veronica p sure it has Alisa's name tied to it
One sec
Has been for some time now, check pins
I think it's the weird ahh 4 sig 2 philip 2 cath
alright so what should be the memo for vero in phys and in burn( no dante)
I think
That's ok damage for SS0 vero?
Or 4 sig 4 patton?
hanying still runs patton ?
damn 
Try double rotation
Her rot in physical is just 3p 3p > yellow > ult > yellow > Ult I think
Can but not necessarily I think
But yea her damage is beyond trash in physical
Atleast low rank
I mean
Why not?
Does that even exist
and what set is vero on for dps
450w
Need SSS for multiple rot
She's washed as main dps without selena lmao
Phys still being the worst is too funny atp 
Can she even fit multiple rots within the timer?
Oh wait sss
Yea that's when she becomes actual Sub-DPS
this is in legend ibelieve
Do I Run Core/Signature/Class Skill on Veronica low resonance?
Just take the sets and figure out the rest ig
Guys what set vero uses in a 2.32.3 11 11 selena hany team 
Also she better than 3s echo at 2s or nah?
alright ty
Are ALL new units this confusing for CN players 😭
what memos should i have on vero for phys (with hanying selena) and burn (no dante)
What resonance for veronica?
Due to her not needing 4 sig for support she is better
Babe im not cn player ty
Check pinned for burn
okiiee
No I'm talking players without ages of foresight
No here playing veronica?
Did they all have to struggle like this
according to the sheet 4x dv, 2x keets, harmo philip atk,class reso
Wep or memory?
Same buff (while vero holding Phillip)
Less damage
memory
I think I can understand the initialisation rot for Veronica
SS0 R3 Veronica
SSS0 R2 Alisa
Depends on build
For support top atk, bottom class
For dps top atk, bottom ult
Tbh idek lmao
-.-
Ty vm
Character is literally too new to say anything exact
It's not like before, where CN laid the path for upcoming characters and meta
Veronica sig or nanaknight sig?
Her current standing is literally too confusing to give solid answers on half her questions
Or just save up?
Nanami sig
Depends on your acc
Are you f2p?
For all we know she could somehow end up outdps-ing Selena next week
Lightning need full nanami

Yes
Save
Literal cope
Unless you have enough to guarantee nana sig (15k)
Not gonna lie, your dedication provoke me to try
Time for overtime work to test vero 
We said that with geiravor
I'll let you know what I can do with Veronica, Solacetune and Echo team
I'm like 8 pulls away
Yeah if it was V3 vero
What was your last pull on weapon banner?
Off rate or selected?
Bonca sig
Time to head to intensive battle for a punching bag
Even SS3 selena is OP
Oh well I might join in testing that funny comps too if I don't forget

have to wait for wz next week and new ppc boss
Her numbers just don’t even match Vera’s
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should work well enough i think, good for people without selena
Yeah they don't but we can't predict what meta findings may happen
This my acc
I'll just hop on dummy stage and try various rotation and see which one is faster at killing the dummy
Plus phy dmg being shafted by def and higher resistance
This isn't a vera situation
Shred application is the root of half of physical's problems lmao
alright
😭
Look at cn, there’s no meta shift in phy because of vero, it’s still mid
it's hard to calculate numbers but while that's possible it is no way at a big enough level vs the lucia/vera situation
is 4 keats 2 cath 2 philip exppc set?

They learned the lesson with vera
Yeah probably wouldn't be a major outdps like Vera tbh
Unfortunately
There’s an all SSS+ team that can’t break 17 mil, I wonder which one 
i thank cn beta testers everyday for not knowing how to use vera/complaining about her being weak
thanks to that we got broken vera 
But undervolting so much that an SSS0 Gen 2 Amp?
Yes LMAO
She's for ignition
phys vero is what? dv jail?
DV bot unfortunately
ye IB is 4x keets of course unit is new in both cn and glb so it can change hope you got plenty of hypertune mats
sss 
Even her ignition isn't that good for SS0
hanying leap soon trust
it'll save vero 
They didnt realize her 10s buff to ult2 after ult1, which is really huge
hell no
Completely DV jail
I'll rather use my SSS0 R2 Alisa
And kuro didnt remove it either
u can do it
but i dont want

i just got bianca sss
so sig+dv
reso is amp or sig move?
They need to change her to dark tank🥀 that's the only fix
DV jail meaning?
there's also the first few months after her release where they just really were insistent on going full support set on her lol
Which one?
Near QTE bot or Completely a QTE bot
damn.
Carries 4 Da Vinci for QTE buffs
Da Vinci is a support memory. any character that uses it, uses it because their damage is low
ie, veronica damage sucks
I'll rather use my SSS0 Alisa
well u pulled for dante so
Does Veronica rotation change past ss3?
Her damage during the downtime of Selena and Hanying is way better than this SS0 Veronica
phys vero bottom reso class skill right?
Says nobody
So what set do you recommend?
excuse me? sss alisa deals damage?
Ss0 vero
my ss3 does absolutely nothing
man we know u will pull anyway
see her dmg i think is decent but at both ss0 rank, it's just at most on the same level as selena's, and considering limited shred time for hanying
yea
Can we get this mod to the misinfo corner
Changes at SSS
even tho i lost the 80/20 im still glad since its meta, but what refinement do i use for her
even sss alisa does nothing its only glacio is where her dmg is respectable
wait i did pull her
Differs to the pinned one? Kk thanks, will do some research.
wth
i wanted to ask what bottom resonance for physical veronica
hanying leap next patch or i shoot myself
since now every char has an affix, surely this means hanyings leap will also add new moves to remove the horsepoop she has now 
It's absolute pyre, 50% Base dmg buff, 100% at 3s
leaped alisa does some dmg

If I just hypertune 4dv 2 keats that should give me access to most of her physical builds right? (Iirc the last 2pc is what tends to change a lot?)
not going to happen
6 class skill
i think so
thanks
oopsie wrong reply
no problems !
||Slash is already considered an affix, that means her leap won't come with a new one|| 
Yea if ss3 selena qte activatied
thats.
what i said
Only downside to continue using Echo would be that she don’t reset QTE cd on swap, which Vero does

that's high copium right there
no we need cow to die
That's considering your Veronica is SSS0
imagine kuso going crazy enough to launch two phys amp in a row
SS0 Veronica with Phillip has same buff as SSS0 leap Alisa with sig
True💀
currently the problem in making ss0 vero dps build in phys with selena is:
- bad shred uptime
- needing to shaft some support mems for the team
- vero self dmg is decent/good enough but not worth doing dps build/rot due to the above 2 points
with vera vs lucia pre-wata leap it was worth shafting support mems and lucia rot cause her dmg was insane, vero's dmg for phys at ss0 unfortunately just not on that level
my vergil is finally usable
There is a slight buff downtime (2s) for 10% of it
SSS0 leaped Alisa can fit her 1 entire physical rot within the downtime of both Hanying and Selena and actually deal good damage
thank you vero 
Echo was found dead in the Glacio trench
I'm even more confused about hanying and Selena atp like who even carries patton and why is Catherine even in the equation I thought hanying already had 100% def shred at ss0 😭😭😭
Reasonable crash out
do i want harmonize cath or philip for veronica
nah hanying only 80%
i don't understand the Vera situation :3
Just play what you used to play man
Cottie Selena and Patton hanying
that's why when balter was still in the team she held cath
This is the first time global players is actually required to think
(It didn't go well)
wdym?
Tbh most of the “dmg” is activating QTE
you mean patton on hanying is useless?
but i dont have selena
then do ur own thing
everyone is talking about Vera somehow, what did i miss back then? :DD
look that this brick
There's not enough braining power to process
vero not vera
rydlao, for phys
2 keats, 4 dv, 2 ?
and class reso?

did you skip her? or are you new
You guys are really having fun huh
||he's dumb||
I forgor LMAO
So like if Veronica does dv keetz cottie does Selena just go patton and hanying on darwin cath or something 😭
2 phillip II
locked away from glac affix and phys forever
philips should be more consistent but cath can prob help better if tanky ig
and yea class reso
assuming ss0 you're talking about here, idk higher ranks
if i can only get 1 resonance do i get axial or spear
Nah I'm thinking about the different combinations
that's an interesting build, but do remember that selena can't do 2rot without cottie
nice ! do tell us if there are better options!
you can do double hold dodge rot for selena but the downside is that she won't be able to freely decide when to use flower ult
can i put vero on 4 dv 2 keetz and 2 guin ? qte botting and double rot with selena
guin is elemental
True she'd have to do a bootleg version of my ss0 flower ult strat

guin does not work for physical
so should i use cotiie
And that strat was NOT always better than 2conductor
phillip
i have a confession to make
sorry wrong reply
4 dv 2 keats 2 phillip
i have been using alisa probably with guin this whole time
When could basic banner selector reset ?
physical being trash as usal 
Same buff with Vero using 2 Phillip
Slightly lower damage
thank you
wow, Vero dmg is mind-blowing
mind-blowingly low
Next patch possibly
we have no proof
Full rot Vero with her using Sin Stinger (hold yellow after 3x 3p red)
2 catherine vs 2 philip
How's it like
i will do 4 dv 2 philip and 2 keetz with class skill and probably hypertune keetz and dv
I mean, eh I have cath on Hanying anyways
Both at 3S?
hanying can't use phillip
Why not patton on hanying
Probably classic "lucia 4cot vs. cot eins" where it just depends on zone tankiness
patton fs if u on physical
for wz should the memo be 4x sign(hanying) and 4 patton or 2 patton 2 cath?
Compared to physical
Vero is eating good for Ignition
If you use her as dps that is
@warped axle wdym it is the physical shred memory so why is it bad in physical
truly Igni unit, fcking fraud Phys
By the end of today, there will be none left 
for physical u use 4pc patton
Mind you that's just her initialisation rot
She can triple rot after this rot
okiee!! thank you
so should i pull vero if i have a SSS echo?
She's good for Ignition
Would Just wait for physical Zone First 
Yea
She's "ok"
Whats the best resonance for veronica (i need her for discord)
must have or nah?
I'll rate her 5/10
Always pull newest S rank
Too long, I'm bored 
You got Nanami for ignition?
She's super high value for Ignition
and dante
I feel no change in Phys compare to SSS Alisa
Dante might die depending on rank
Wep or mem
class skill for phys?
Cant really Test her with old ppc Bosses 
Memory
i still want to cope with SSS echo for some reason
I actually felt a nerf in physical
I'm gonna use Alisa in physical
Get rid of Dante and run Vero nana Vera for ignition
and since Ignition is WZ exclusive... well this is not very good
High rank = Physical buffer and Ignition Buffer and Main-DPS
she can't beat my SSS Vera and SSS Dante
i think vero mainly for ignition right?
Low rank = Ignition Buffer and DPS
low rank just Ignition it seems
so alisa SSS better for physical?
Mainly for ignition when it comes to low rank
than vero?
Same same
To slightly bad depending on how you play
Even at SSS Vero?
What gamemode
@ripe stag who to reso first, hanying or vero 
Both at SSS, 10% buff difference. Dmg same same.
SSS? She has 10% more buff than Alisa (and 20% more holding Phillip)
?
I need her for physical team with discord on Phantom pain
who should I give USB to
so im just pulling for vero just for ignition
How bout for Ignition at SSS?
Damage wise in physical
If vero is SSS0 she should have majorly higher damage though?
You playing or fire can try?
Tonight
See for yourself
This is SS0
I can't test SSS0
Through QTE yes, but on her own not really
But will say
SSS0 Vero kicks out your SSS0 Dante
Goodbye whacky pizza man then.
wierd that they focusing more in affix now
The video didn't go
Unless Dante is an entire big rank higher, yeah Vero replaces him
It's needed for its shred and harmony and the fact that Hanying cannot rotate without it exists
Hanying's sig is a freaking huge upgrade imo, especially in TS
Hanying requires DLT tho
so if i dont care about ignition it wont hurt me to not pull vero
the best part of pulling for vero was the 2 wata shards i got
Kinda sucks i need 2 different memory sets for her depending on ignition/phys i also gotta get a 4pc da vinci set for vera
I always said I'll pull ?

So Ezra should stop the propaganda of pulling Vero?
what a way to save money by spending money for pulls 
daren vs kamui all over again
TF
Why am I getting bombarded with hate suddenly
Bruh
me when all i do is doompost
Daren vs Kamui wasn't a good thing
Daren was really higher than Kamui
I'm saying was
Cuz I don't use Daren

there's no propaganda at play, vero is simply "sss or skip" unit
wtf is happening here
is veronica's CUB worth
ezra after only complaining about a unit and getting hate for it 
SS3 or ignition
i skipped dante so
Unless you are like SS0 Alisa player
meh, optional
SSS
S0 lol been using vouchers on lilith /wata ( and newish)
im so done with meta slaves bro let me enjoy the game and play my faves in peace without worrying abt sigs and team comps like no, i really really don’t like that character idc if they’re meta help let me pull for ppl i love ty
you can just not pick burn wz whenever it rolls, we don't have exppc burn boss anyway
veronica needs SS3 that much?
SS0 is enough
You'll cope for Ultima Slash stacks but it's enough
she's still strong with SS0 + DLT
SS3 makes Slash feel easy
For Physical? SS0 is enough
Bro
u can get hanying SS3 via selector reset 
you activated the trap card
Dawg YOU ARE IN #📨・meta-help
so did you
Bait work haha
bruh
in #📨・meta-help btw
aaand you
too short to be a pasta maybe some baiting
all forgor that pasta lol
its just funny to me 
nah
It's in my nature
mf is a hater at heart
Have seen that pasta in Office
Let’s be real for a sec, Veronica has been a super low effort FULL PRICE S frame release by Kuro. The lackluster meta strength, terrible animations/vfx, boring gameplay (at least Vera has her dodge trick). Skipping would hopefully create a dip in Kuro’s earnings and send a message that this is overall unacceptable and unsatisfactory to the players. Do better Kuro.
Let’s be real for a sec, Veronica has been a super low effort FULL PRICE S frame release by Kuro. The lackluster meta strength, terrible animations/vfx, boring gameplay (at least Vera has her dodge trick). Skipping would hopefully create a dip in Kuro’s earnings and send a message that this is overall unacceptable and unsatisfactory to the players. Do better Kuro.
Gotta maintain the agenda
saved. thank you
is the riot finished?
On the bright side
SS0 Vero feels REALLY CLUNKY to play
another one
danm my alisa team still does better than vero 
apparently vero only good for ignition for now
prolly bc alisa has very fast rot
You cannot powercreep Jotaro's illegitimate daughter

maybe i should change nickname to "vero sss or skip" 
can't really tell, my Alisa is S0 
SSS0 R2 Alisa
Another one in the wild
so much mats wasted need refund
(just try fate)
then yea vero better at that point 
bro even went for r3...
should have fated, I got vero 60/60 🥀
1 Full rot for Veronica btw
my alisa buffs my selena more than vero for sum reason both r1
Needed? Nah
You can do without it
It's pure damage
build for veronica?
got bianca 89/100 so i'm not trying fate for a while
Not possible
4 me and 4 u
sets are done back to wuwa 
For phy or ignition?
WHALEE
hmm both
fk whel
What is the memory set for vero?
fk whel

You have Dante for ignition or nah
i have
two s rank units in a row that need sss to not feel like trash i gotta say kuro outdone themselves this time 
The way moderator tested Veronica reminds me of Extaria
btw veronica build for ignition needs to be Hypertuned or nah
What rank is your Dante and what rank is your Vero?
Veronica builds
HIIIIIIIIIIIII XAV 
How
For phy 4dv 2 keats 2 Phillip II
at this rate we might need s+ liv to be better than ayla/feral
oof, so veronica is just an ignition bot? i wont be getting her SS3 then, i still have an R2 SS3 Alisa for physical
idk tell me 
nanami still solo?
i heard that kuso announced everyone will have an early for vero... if they pull fate ofc
not really, i use my SS3 CW too

real
This works but If you want the faster ignition rot you would go 4 shake 4 cottie.
You can expect that difference from qte timing to be honest, the difference seems negligible for one rotation test
SS3 Vero has 10% higher buff than SSS0 Alisa if you are using 2p Phillip on Vero
i did 5 test all outcome alisa still better
Lmao
SSS dante and SS vero
(not mine obviously)
MY MAN 🤝
oh
If same rank as Dante she’s duo DPS with Nanami and Vera as amp.
do it
My man
What's this?
is weap worth for the extra 10%💔
Is 4 Cottie 4 Shakes not the same as 4 Shakes 4 Cottie ?
he has the bc to back it up 
What

Then she could be the actual amp here. I recommend 4 dv 4 guin, or 4 dv 2 guin 2 ein if the zone has tanky enemies.
what the

hey could you guys recommend who to use for phys team if i get vero? https://huaxu.app/eu/players/22799115/characters
Explore the 38 characters of Mola Mola from the Europe server of Punishing: Gray Raven.
welcome to the pioneer test
Dawg just doxxed himself
The chat is a bit funny not gonna lie
watch liv being fire tank
hmm i think the 5 star one doesn't add up when u used her as ignition
it sure is on days like these
man, idk if that 10% is worth it, i almost have enough vouchers to SSS my Alisa. I can cope with my Ignition team being a little crappy
So Global won't get Beta
damn... they were fast
I’m blind apparently, I mistook cottie as keats
Naruhodo
hmm so 1 build for both? element
Sasuga PGR
Just skip affix for real
u never existed to get it lol
just wait until 1 week before release
like always
Yea
when units main element is really sht and we only pull them for affix 
20 pity into vero weapon highkey reconsidering the weapon because all it's gonna do is H1 for me 
Actually anybody have that updated cub priority list
pull fate 
Two different builds for phy/ignition unfortunately
pull vero to sht on dentge? 
Pull vero to sht on Vero ✅
dante dedge after one patch lmao
Weapon fate banner doko
after eos
is it okay to not hypertune Ignition or i should hypertune both?
both ofc
If you skipped Dante, you can pull Vero for higher ignition scores than Dante at the same investment.
I'll see how vero feels at just ss0 5* and maybe if it's not cringe I'll hold the pity
otherwise that won't be funni
What's vero rot on phys?
fok my resources is broke after this patch 
wait for rydle
surely
In your case it’s probably ok to not full ht. Ht only the bottom 3 if you can (memory slot 456)
cooked
Pretty sure somebody already posted it, it was something like 2 yellow, ult
wait bro didn't kiwi ?
Wait for dinner to be served or cook the meal yourself
Sounds appropriate for this occasion
2 piece of keats is bad???
keats ?
2p Keats is crit buff
now i understand why this chat is funni
2 keats only for phy
Vero sig

shite name
4 dv 4 gui on ignition?
veros main build ? the one we should hypertune
Both set
Dalao save us
Based on John Keats
Source: everyone
she has two and u should hp both
huh that would cost my liver
me no dalao
oh no...
The early gang got cooked so bad
just tag the helpers and leave it to them
An english poet
For real
@buoyant hornet
Helper can fix anything
For your case yes. If you ever consider SSS Vero then she replaces Dante in the team and you would build her differently
Ode to a Grecian Urn
i guess i will hypertune physical one first what she runs ?
k i retrieve my words
Ode to a Nightingale




