📨・meta-help

[wintry parcel]

So don't really think it's a bad thing

[round lake]

Nope she has no dmg for those cope contents anyway

[magic arch]

alright

[radiant panther]

Nah All the frame perfect transition just to be bricked by damage check mobs

[peak halo]

Mobs is trash zone
Specialy if normal+elite

[crystal rune]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/emojis/936606302082334750.gif?size=48&animated=true&name=worryNodders

[round lake]

Kill mob zone

[crystal rune]

Kill elites too

Only give us boss

[round lake]

This is the worst side effect of syncho patches
They completely went mad with their WZ schedule and kept spamming mob zones

[crystal rune]

And ts burn

[peak halo]

And ice and dark

[wintry parcel]

At least mob zones means I can skip trying Warzone for the whole week

Imagine malding mobs

[peak halo]

I mald

[wintry parcel]

M*sochist

[karmic anvil]

[lunar lava]

SSTEEVE

what is sp delay?

[wintry parcel]

It only took me 3 attempt of Daemonissa to miss 1 enemy in the previous warzone so let me one tap and skip it

[wintry parcel]

A tech

[lunar lava]

[magic arch]

any of the support builds need hypertune on top or nah?

[peak halo]

Bruh
I cant 1 tap
Cuz ever,thing brick just by fk mob with 1 hp remain
And the entive wave progress gone

[peak halo]

No need

[magic arch]

like this build in example of lilith ppc

[wintry parcel]

No

[toxic onyx]

can someone please tell me what buffs do i use on these teams?

[wintry parcel]

Almost all of the Davinci set doesn't require hypertune to be used

[magic arch]

so its negligible basically to hypertune any support build

[peak halo]

With ht even minor the improveness

[wintry parcel]

It's only such a very end game optimization when you know exactly what you're doing and your support character damage matters for the run progression

[magic arch]

alright gotcha, thanks

[peak halo]

More value if u ht units, hows dmg matter

[wintry parcel]

I can confidently say, only 5% of the players in the game that actually find hypertuning Davinci set is useful

Could even be less considering how dead is competition in the game right now

[cobalt prawn]

yeah it's either giga whale or nothing xD

but with how much resources we're getting, it's not too bad to get everyone hypertuned

[toxic onyx]

Uh anyone knows? UwU

[cobalt prawn]

and a lot of the amps deal good dps

[magic arch]

i usually ask those questions when im broke to not go even more broke

[cobalt prawn]

it doesn't rly matter much as long as u activate perfect tactics it should be easy clear

[edgy trench]

whose cub should i get?https://huaxu.app/ap/players/14432548/characters

[wintry parcel]

It's a good habit to do so

[cobalt prawn]

oh and also, when ur hypertuning u should do only bottom hypertune

the top ht stats don't rly do anything

[wintry parcel]

Resources management is actually rare in this game until the players are forced to do it

[magic arch]

alright, thanks for info

[cobalt prawn]

ofc if u wanna ultima awaken ur carries then u ht it all but

[edgy trench]

can someone help me

[magic arch]

well yeah i got most of my main dpses full hypertuned

[wintry parcel]

Crepuscule cub is good

[edgy trench]

okay

[cobalt prawn]

Nanami

and/or Wanshi

best cubs in the game

[edgy trench]

uhh multiple answers

which one?? im very indecisive

[magic arch]

also, veronica, i only got ss alice with no sig, she replaces her 100% right? im looking to get her ss with sig

[wintry parcel]

Those cubs are good as well, but the only disadvantage of them is that they don't have a 100% drop

It might be risky to pull considering you can get other cub instead of the one you wanted

[lunar lava]

Ty kurai. Very cool

[karmic anvil]

alisa still used in glacio

[cobalt prawn]

yup, in phys

[edgy trench]

huh? it says 100 percent though

[cobalt prawn]

only bianca's cub is 100%

[karmic anvil]

mf made me happi thinking kurai actually answered it

[magic arch]

well my bad didnt mention that i meant for phys

[cobalt prawn]

the others are 80

[wintry parcel]

It will change the moment you choose the other cub

[edgy trench]

oh okay, so i should get crepuscule cub?

[cobalt prawn]

personally I would go for nanami's cuz hers is so good and she's in so many teams

[edgy trench]

got it

[lunar lava]

why what happened to Kurai

[edgy trench]

i have only used her on lightning

[cobalt prawn]

whereas rn ur prob only running Bianca in dark so it's like.. is it rly that big of a boost

[karmic anvil]

he left us

[magic arch]

shes also used in plasma and combust

[karmic anvil]

(for a better life i hope)

[lunar lava]

[cobalt prawn]

Nanami is the ignition tank, plasma, and in the future glow

so that's 4 teams for her lol

[wintry parcel]

He has SSS rank Dante

[edgy trench]

okay, i will get next time

[wintry parcel]

So I think Burn Nanami won't be as much as noticeable to him

Sounds good

[edgy trench]

what is crepuscule cub skills?

[cobalt prawn]

u mean the one getting replaced by Veronica in 2 days?

[wintry parcel]

Oh
Also no Pyroath to actually play Plasma

[wintry parcel]

Sure sure

[cobalt prawn]

oh so it doesn't rly matter for him then

[crystal rune]

Bica glow

[cobalt plover]

We dont really know if vero replaces dante on lower investment

[limber yoke]

she does

[round lake]

Not when Dante is SSS

[cobalt plover]

Better to test it and then we tell people if it replaces him or not

Than to be doomposting xd

[round lake]

He's washed but not THAT washed bro

[limber yoke]

who even invested in that lmfao

[edgy trench]

umm what cub skill should i level up?

[limber yoke]

[cobalt plover]

Bottom ones are usually the best ones

[wintry parcel]

Luminous stinger and Crystal aria

[edgy trench]

okay thank you

[unborn hound]

Always the last 2 on any s rank cub

[round lake]

U didnt ask for this but here's a life hack tips
Get one S rank CUB
Use all ore to buy its dupe 3 times
Recycle it
Buy new CUB with shards

[cobalt plover]

Also we dont really know if she replaces him since cn hates male character
So dante isnt that invested on that server and vero is

[edgy trench]

i dont understand

[cobalt plover]

Sss is really diff than sss+

[wintry parcel]

I don't think he actually has any ores to try that

[unborn hound]

#📨・meta-help message

[round lake]

Do not, I repeat, do not SS any CUB with Norman ore
You'll understand soon

[wintry parcel]

But yeah

The point is don't really use your Norman ores to rank up cubs from purchasing enough dupes

[edgy trench]

norman?

this??

[round lake]

I gotta make one pic about this so I can spam instead of copy paste

[wintry parcel]

Just let your Norman ores gather dust in your inventory until the time comes

[wintry parcel]

Yeah that

[round lake]

Nice u have it

[cobalt plover]

Why though

[unborn hound]

Zamn

[edgy trench]

what do i do with it??

[wintry parcel]

Why not I guess

[unborn hound]

Give Me some

[round lake]

U can use ur Ore to get a new CUB, get Nanami CUB then

[cobalt plover]

[wintry parcel]

Just like the majority of the reply in this channel

Answering the question that no one asked

[unborn hound]

Bruh #📨・meta-help message

Watch the vid

[cobalt plover]

Fair enough

[round lake]

I just feel like I had to answer that before he listen to some rich dudes and SS his CUB

[formal radish]

I use mine to ss crepuscule cub

[round lake]

[wintry parcel]

Just tell him to not do anything with the ores, it's unnecessary even when someone told you so

[edgy trench]

why is the video so low quality, im having a hard time understanding whats going on xd

[round lake]

Unfortunately, Discord size limit

[cobalt plover]

Mobile prob

[wintry parcel]

Do something Mr.teacher @unborn hound

[cobalt plover]

On my phone its ok quality

[edgy trench]

can you just teach me step by step instead?

[formal radish]

Mald mald mald mald mald

[round lake]

Lets just do what Steve said
Do not touch the Ore at the moment

[karmic anvil]

https://youtu.be/SJ-l0JVBbJU?si=HFQRBiYbTCCU_9CI

[edgy trench]

when should i use it though? is it useless?

[karmic anvil]

[round lake]

And again, DO NOT SS ANY CUB

[lunar lava]

smh who named this sp delay. Thought it meant "Support delay"

[wintry parcel]

I think penguin can explain it to you, just tell him that he has to be slower so it's easier

[crystal rune]

signature point delay

[round lake]

Its for free CUB
Apparently someone sent a video why not check it out

[unborn hound]

It's not my vid

[wintry parcel]

Do you wanna know something interesting?

[unborn hound]

I already used my ores so i can't show

[lunar lava]

[formal radish]

Should I play pgr or umamusume

[edgy trench]

is it like how i recycle 3 5star weapons for shards so i can buy my 5 star weapon of choice?

[lunar lava]

yes daddi steve

[cobalt plover]

What they mean is you can buy new cubs instead of SS your old cubs

[round lake]

Yes, correct
Just a CUB version

[formal radish]

Yes

[cobalt plover]

No

[edgy trench]

where is the shop for cub then?

[formal radish]

With your ores you can buy copies of a cub you already own, but you use those copies for scrap materials to buy a new one instead

[unborn hound]

Brother just watch the video

[lunar lava]

ores take so long to generate for SS

[karmic anvil]

https://tenor.com/view/arknights-hop-on-arknights-gif-10990321923316625081

[edgy trench]

so SS is essentially useless so i should just get another cub instead?

[round lake]

SS a CUB doesn't actually add much and it costs you 2 CUB dupe
So u just buy 3 dupes with Norman Ore then recycle and buy a new CUB instead

[wintry parcel]

Sp delay can also be found as a terms/tech in Honkai impact 3rd because their energy systems is actually called sp (120 sp to cast ultimate move) and also has similar technique used in Memorial arena (PPC in hi3rd) with certain character

The origin of it in pgr isn't really known, but you can just tell that basically the CN player base being lazy and copy it from hi3rd to pgr malding schemes

[unborn hound]

Glb can't read or see these days

[cobalt plover]

Its not useless but its one of the lowest gains

[lunar lava]

Damn that is actually interesting trivia..

[edgy trench]

okay done i understand now

[round lake]

For broke ppl, this is the only way to consistently getting new S CUB

[edgy trench]

does it matter which cub i sacrifice?

[cobalt plover]

No

[young badge]

yes

[wintry parcel]

Not like it's useless, but more like unnecessary for the majority of the players considering the benefits of SS rank cubs is locked behind a very high level optimization in the end game content that only minority of the players actually capable of

[round lake]

Doesnt matter
But u have Lilith + Bianca CUB so that's perfect

[lunar lava]

Something like Ultimate Energy Bypass or Overcap Surge sounds cooler but sure

[unborn hound]

No

[round lake]

Oh and sell CW CUB too, she doesn't deserve to ride it anymore

[unborn hound]

Just don't scrap your upgraded cubs by accident

[round lake]

[cobalt plover]

[round lake]

Make sure to lock all new CUB

[cobalt plover]

Just cause she bad dont sell her wheel

[edgy trench]

woah, it cost alot to make 3 cubs

[young badge]

dont sell cw cub

[lunar lava]

wait how does one sell a cub

[unborn hound]

It costs 9m

[crystal rune]

sell cw cub worryNodders

[cobalt plover]

Scrap

[edgy trench]

ee

[round lake]

It costs 2/3 of that to SS a CUB, all for 5% dmg boost

[wintry parcel]

At least it doesn't cost you 5000 tickets

[edgy trench]

okay done, so whose cub should i get now? nanami?

[round lake]

Nanami yes

[young badge]

did u sold cw cub

[cobalt plover]

Nanami is nice

[wintry parcel]

You can technically do this scrapping technique as your main way to get cubs and using tickets from the Norman rewards as the secondary way

[round lake]

More like scrap it

[edgy trench]

uhh yes?

[lunar lava]

interesting. Scrapping old cubs/weapons for newer ones

[young badge]

rip

[wintry parcel]

Very f2p friendly if you ask me

[round lake]

Wym RIP he did the right thing

[wintry parcel]

clueless

[cobalt plover]

Yes but it takes way too long

[round lake]

[young badge]

cw cub one of the most useful cub for mobs

[lunar lava]

So anyone here preaches scrapping 3x old weapons to get a new one?

[round lake]

Mob?

[unborn hound]

Cw cub is garbo

[wintry parcel]

He would be fine without it

[round lake]

[feral pollen]

never

[young badge]

mob wz

[wintry parcel]

Bold of you to think he's into warzone malding

[round lake]

Thats nice lets sacrifice 40% dmg to gather mobs

[wintry parcel]

One tap and be done

[drowsy canopy]

Quick question, who should i prioritize getting sig for between shukra, solacetune, pyroath, lucid dreamer or aegis?

[unborn hound]

[cobalt plover]

Newer units have aoe enough for that without grouping

[young badge]

cw cub on lilith 40% dmg loss?

[wintry parcel]

Aegis because I said so

[unborn hound]

Average eu experience tbh

[wintry parcel]

Join us testing her

[lunar lava]

My weapon luck this patch has been off the charts

[round lake]

Solacetune I'd say, just because that woman is garbage without her Sig and she will not die in atleast 2 years

[unborn hound]

Why is lilith using cw cub wadaphack

[lunar lava]

I got 6 weapons from 40 pulls

[young badge]

in plasma

[wintry parcel]

Just pray that Veronica is good enough to make us never have to double rotate with her again

[unborn hound]

Lingya

[young badge]

motor

[cobalt plover]

Only if kuro dont do a little thing

[unborn hound]

U in legend rn?

[drowsy canopy]

so either aegis or solacetune , noted

[young badge]

hero

[cobalt plover]

We have to double rotate on solacetune?

[unborn hound]

What did u score for ion/glacio and fire?

[round lake]

We can only hope the dalaos can discover such trick because it's not looking good in CN ....

[cobalt plover]

[edgy trench]

okay done thank you

[young badge]

7.2m fire 6.83m ion/glacio

[unborn hound]

What invest for ion?

[round lake]

We've saved one more potential man for the Nanami agenda

[cobalt plover]

Nice Tyler The Creator

[edgy trench]

btw, since i dont use cw, should i just use her 6star weapon to reso one of my other 6 star weapon?

[young badge]

glacio

[wintry parcel]

Not quite yet

[round lake]

Hell yeah

[unborn hound]

[karmic anvil]

[edgy trench]

uhh

[round lake]

Nah just kill CW

[young badge]

havent tried ion tho cuz the breakpoints is jst terrible

[feral pollen]

what is this cannibalising cw hour

[unborn hound]

If she is not on the team then yeah

[wintry parcel]

Well I'm going to make breakfast and be ready to head to the barn

Good bye

[edgy trench]

i have never used her in anything

[round lake]

CW should be honored that her Sig and CUB are sacrificed for greater goods

[unborn hound]

Based

[round lake]

I'd sacrifice her too if I could, anything else would've been more useful for my acc than her

Even some COGs

[edgy trench]

okay then i will sacrifice, i have 2 6 star weapons who arent reso'ed, solacetune and vera, whose weapon should i reso and what should the resonance be?

[unborn hound]

Vera

[round lake]

Tough man, they both need it

[unborn hound]

Dlt

[round lake]

Ig Vera Gay deserves it more because fkc u Hanying

[lunar lava]

Its kinda bad that scrapping a reso'd weapon does not give you equivalent amount of Scrapped weapon shards

[feral pollen]

the cw hate is unreal at this time of the day

[round lake]

Well, it is what it is

[median spade]

cw fun

[unborn hound]

You are right

We should be hating qu instead

[round lake]

CW is a waste of time at the moment and she bricked too many newbies

[lunar lava]

oMg GAis I'm thEQ gRFEaTest CW FaN. I'M sUOCh A Fan I StILl Use HNer OLd FRame

[feral pollen]

i'd argue dentge bricced more

[round lake]

Dying would've be her salvation too
She'll get a new frame in no time anyway

[unborn hound]

Nah

[round lake]

DMC as a whole 🥀 🧱

[lunar lava]

Imagine Still pulling Alpha Crimson Abyss in this day and age

[unborn hound]

So many idiots wasted base banner for cw

[median spade]

let em brick 🗣️

[feral flume]

What's better matrix or afterglow? Weap reso for Selena in wz that is i alr have dlt btw

[round lake]

Everytime I see someone ask "What should I get from this banner" and see him showing a screenshot of him choosing CW, I get angry

[feral pollen]

virgin actually gucci in fakeslash, just hanying holding him back

[round lake]

Virgil also kinda ass against Powered tho, bro his stab 🥀

[young badge]

[mighty tusk]

damn, sss solo nanami good and brainded

[round lake]

Powered can just walk away and thats it

[edgy trench]

ayy, im growing stronger each day

[young badge]

where get

[median spade]

GA for general purpose

[round lake]

Yes, give everything to Nanami, join me

[mighty tusk]

got sss from thunderbolt

[median spade]

pwowqwhel

[edgy trench]

is veronica's buff really good compared to alisa?

[median spade]

its better

[round lake]

Better ofc, and higher personal dmg

[crystal rune]

wait you got 3S nanami now? you phat whel

worryNope

[young badge]

join him

[median spade]

nergi big whel

[crystal rune]

broke

[round lake]

SSS Nanami best value no biased true fact trust

[edgy trench]

does she do stronger physical dmg than vergil with cub and sig SS? and solacetune

[median spade]

vergil physical

[young badge]

yes

[median spade]

GET OVER IT 🗣️

[round lake]

Uhh ye stronger than Virgil, its not a high bar

[edgy trench]

i dont have piannisimo or something

[young badge]

🧱

[median spade]

🧱

[round lake]

Apparently not stronger than Hanying or CN dalaos are doing something wrong ...

They still run double rots Hanying

[edgy trench]

does veronica buff ultima slash too? or is physical buffs for both ultima and physical?

[median spade]

.

[young badge]

ngl i think 3s alisa might still be better in ultima

[mighty tusk]

IF they have sss alisa

[young badge]

pwo u pull vero?

[mighty tusk]

gonna get her late

used the bc to get nanami from thunderbolt

[young badge]

[vocal fiber]

guys do we have Galbrena sheet numbers?

[round lake]

Man knows his priotity

[mighty tusk]

I mean, this helps

[median spade]

bro clicked the wrong meta help

[vocal fiber]

OMG

[crystal rune]

wuwa still has a singular gaemplay help

broke

[unborn hound]

Show rot plz

[young badge]

3s nami

[unborn hound]

[young badge]

[edgy trench]

which better support for nanami lightning, vera or lilith?

[round lake]

Usually its Lilith in a Luna zaza team cause u can SS3-SSS her for free

[edgy trench]

oh okay so lilith then

[young badge]

whicever amp with higher rank/reso

gen3 one

[mighty tusk]

needs sss nanami so good luck with that

[edgy trench]

ayy new highscore, and im first, nanami's cub rocks

thanks for all yalls help

[cobalt prawn]

It’s so sad that Veronica’s hold dodge is rly cool

She never uses it in rotations:(

Maybe we can style w her in Babel

[normal sierra]

n-nani?
I see nuke answered, but just a note for future: me don't mald whel ppc, too lazy for that
(even though this dumbo hell digimon now feels like whel ppc lul)

[crystal rune]

hell digimon is only 1/2 of whel ppc worryNodders

[normal sierra]

20s or more kill time already too whel for me

[unborn hound]

[crystal rune]

<@&595893856554319873>

[unborn hound]

<@&842033830583599115>

[pearl solstice]

@

?

[unborn hound]

Spam

[normal sierra]

Fork always late lul

[cobalt prawn]

🍴

[pearl solstice]

But who deleted it

[crystal rune]

youre the mod

why are you asking us

worryCoke

[pearl solstice]

I mean

[normal sierra]

I dunno
dun you chat with your mod people?

[pearl solstice]

I'm here first

[pearl solstice]

Chat died

[crystal rune]

4worrywoke

[calm blaze]

What's the memory resonance for wanshi

[rocky wedge]

6 atk 6 class glacio, 6 ult ice

tho class also fine for ice

[calm blaze]

Basic or +15

[median spade]

atk

[calm blaze]

Ok

Thanks

[spiral merlin]

https://tenor.com/view/zaunvi-caitvitwt-stan-twitter-gif-10576500664165224210

This is not surprising at all

Weren't mod applications not too long ago as well

[unborn hound]

@buoyant hornet u here?

[young badge]

nergi

[karmic anvil]

nergi

[young badge]

u pull vero?

[heavy marlin]

Does Glorius Spear work on its holder?

[young badge]

if they heal yeah

[karmic anvil]

no skipping in this house unfortunately

[young badge]

[karmic anvil]

join our pulling strim if you have time

[young badge]

whenn

[eager oasis]

is it normal that i cant beat powered under 30 secons with my SS Virgil? (Sig, DLT)
SS0 Hanying
SS Elisa

i guess hanying really wants her SS3 for TS content 💀

[karmic anvil]

usually 2-3 hours after patch drops
surely fafs pipes wont break again

[young badge]

[cobalt plover]

https://youtu.be/Vt4YPcd6fqA

[cobalt plover]

Needs to mald more

[eager oasis]

i do virgils 2 ult rotations with blue orbs (so, swap in, blue and hold, then ult, dodge and hold basic during blue, ult at 150, then redo it)

[crystal rune]

What

[stuck kite]

Hello

[median spade]

hi smitty

[stiff elm]

Already have dlt

I got another bonka weapon from the free pulls

[stuck kite]

[lone cedar]

Hello guys, I'm new so I don't have many characters, Bianca looks cool but is she good and should I pull her since I'm a new player ? Maybe better characters will come soon

[karmic anvil]

yeah, shes good
(you pull all new characters since the game gives you enough currency)

also try to get their sig weapon if you think you have enough

• feel free to ask questions here to not brick your acc

[lone cedar]

Really !? The game gives you enough to pull every single one that comes out ?

[noble zinc]

[karmic anvil]

yes
as long as you don't spend them randomly on skins or something

(or on reruns with 70/30 chance)

[lone cedar]

Amazing

[noble zinc]

[rose yew]

All for fated banner

[lone cedar]

What the best ? The themed event one looks better because it's only a pity of 60 pulls instead of 100

[karmic anvil]

60 one

dont go on 100 pity one~~ unless you're a whale ~~

[lone cedar]

Ok, and you said We have enough to pull everyone, but how ? What are the main things to get cards for pulling ?

[trail stump]

Mobs so ass

Maybe next week will be better

[lone cedar]

Can I use my black cards to pull ?

[trail stump]

The 60 one

Unless you whel and gamba on 100

[karmic anvil]

phantom pain cage, warzone, norman etc
just the weekly modes i guess

also events

[lone cedar]

I missclicked and pulled a 10 on the 100 😭

[lone cedar]

Ok 👌

And I can also use my black cards to pull weapons, or should I keep them for characters ?

[trail stump]

Yemss

We hab lots of orange sources anyways

[karmic anvil]

try to get the characters first
then you can try getting weapons
(weapons are must for meta anyways)

[trail stump]

The red tix are less

[buoyant hornet]

Hiii

[buoyant hornet]

You should pull every debut character

[lone cedar]

What are the debut character ?

[brave sigil]

Anyone new, right now it's Bianca

In 2 days, it's Veronica

[lone cedar]

Ok, I got her and her weapon, but now I'm poor so I need to get more cards

[lone cedar]

2 days ? I hope it lasts long enough so I can get her

[karmic anvil]

can check when the banner/patch ends in

[brave sigil]

All banner lasts for like ~30 days, you're good

[buoyant hornet]

The patch ends in over a month and it's a x3 patch aka it compresses the time-gated rewards of 3 patches into one

Aka every week you get the amount we'd normally get in 3 weeks

[lone cedar]

But in 30 days I can't get 60 pulls

[buoyant hornet]

Yes well over 60

Also do the patch events, do all the usual stuff

And do the one-time permanent side modes like Golden Vortex

[lone cedar]

Ok I just need to find what modes actually gives me that, because I don't know anything besides story mode and the roguelike mode

[buoyant hornet]

Vortex gives a lot

[buoyant hornet]

Most of the income is just the weekly missions from pain cage and warzone + patch limited events

[lone cedar]

Don't have Vortex yet, I need to hurry

[lone cedar]

So the game is really F2P friendly right ?

[unborn hound]

i forgor what i was gonna ask

[buoyant hornet]

Technically yeah

If you care about meta it's a major slow-burn for f2p/light spenders and requires a LOT of patience and decent planning

[buoyant hornet]

Painge

[buoyant hornet]

But otherwise if you're a casual and only care about getting every single new character and not worrying about meta functionality/teams, it's very friendly

[lone cedar]

I'm happy as long as I can pull both character + weapon for every new character

[buoyant hornet]

Well as f2p the weapons are potentially trickier

[brave sigil]

Every patch always give you enough pulls to get 1 character copy

[lone cedar]

Can I clear most of the content without worrying about the meta ?

[buoyant hornet]

F2p before synchronization used to take a really long time to be able to afford weapons

[brave sigil]

Not to mention there are "saving" patches where they release A rank instead of S rank characters, like Discord

[buoyant hornet]

Sync made it much easier but you joined on the very last sync patch, you'll be more comfortable than people who join after the patch but

Depending on your luck you may or may not be able to afford all weapons

[brave sigil]

No, meta is very important for all end-game modes, but it's not difficult

[buoyant hornet]

Yes aside from clash reflection

And pain cage uhhh

Depends

[brave sigil]

Hm, I wouldn't advice a beginners to ignore the meta and then make them wonder why they can't kill a boss in Pain Cage

[buoyant hornet]

A super newbie will have to stick to adv ppc for a while anyway

[trail stump]

Get Nanami

[buoyant hornet]

But yeah ideally you need to have SOME meta knowledge

[buoyant hornet]

Ah yes nanami the character than infamously has 9 AP in PPC

[lone cedar]

But I have a long time before end-game I suppose, and by the I arrive at that I will have enough stuff to build my characters depending on the meta

[buoyant hornet]

End game is technically just lvl 80 and above lol

Once you unlock all available level-gated modes

[lone cedar]

Damn I'm level 73

[trail stump]

[fading kestrel]

errrm actually its 85 to unlock high tier Clash and Norman

[brave sigil]

You can get to end-game very quick, the ones you want look out for now is Pain Cage, Warzone and Norman. Clash Reflection may be a little too hard for you to full clear for now

[crystal rune]

Susge~1

[fading kestrel]

no i think he still has low-difficulty clash at his level. He should clear without issue

[buoyant hornet]

Tldr

Warzone: you can get by with just clearing the zones and ignoring scores unless you actually enjoy meta and wanna mald it

Phantom Pain Cage: as a newbie you'll do the weaker bracket of PPC, but once you have enough characters and usable teams you'll want to enter Ultimate PPC where bosses are way tankier and need proper execution to kill them in a decent timeframe

[crystal rune]

gawd

[buoyant hornet]

Both modes are centered around time-based scoring but PPC's most important reward actually get directly affected by your score

If you get a dookie score you might as well stay in advanced ppc

[formal radish]

Ohhhh I wanan sleep

[buoyant hornet]

Should I sing you a lullaby son

[formal radish]

Yes unc

[crystal rune]

mambo wheres my sticker

[formal radish]

Not now

[crystal rune]

youve only sent cogs

[buoyant hornet]

Okie

[crystal rune]

you rat fk Madge

[formal radish]

Is my cog not enough

[brave sigil]

Yup, Warzone is very easy to get all the rewards, but you will need to learn basic meta and rotations before you dive into that

[crystal rune]

no

i expect at least a sticker and cogs

[formal radish]

Not now

[crystal rune]

ReallyMad

[formal radish]

Am sleepy time to sleep

[crystal rune]

Give me my sticker ReallyMad

[lone cedar]

Too much information 🤯

But I tried PPC and Warzone so okay

[buoyant hornet]

I spent 2 years learning basics

[lone cedar]

But what is Norman ?

[buoyant hornet]

Norman's revival plan

[formal radish]

[buoyant hornet]

It's a mode that I THINK you unlock at lvl 80 or something like that

[formal radish]

When will I be done learning the basics

[buoyant hornet]

I forgot its unlock requirement

[lone cedar]

When you say the Ultimate PPC, it's the one available at 80 ?

[formal radish]

I remember they have a baby norman under lvl 80

[buoyant hornet]

I'll teach you dear nephew

[formal radish]

[buoyant hornet]

Yes it had trial characters and everything 😭

[lone cedar]

Yes I have it but what do I need to do ?

[formal radish]

Oh I think I remember that

The trial units were rlly sht tho, like 4k bp

[buoyant hornet]

Level 80 you unlocked Advanced PPC

You unlock access to Ult ppc once you get a total score of 1 million on an Adv PPC week

And every single week after you get to choose between advanced or ultimate

You're never permanently forced into Ult PPC if you choose it for one week

[buoyant hornet]

They got the job done at least lmao

Btw I'm realizing exppc became really unfriendly for newbies lmao

No lamia no hamlet no blue shark

[lone cedar]

Ok thanks, I definitely need to watch some videos and read some guides about that

[crystal rune]

pepe_point_laugh

[mighty tusk]

omg setsulao
what is your wisdom?
and why is wanshi's tank class app so slow and garbage

[buoyant hornet]

Now you either have phat dps and 3 proper teams or you die

[crystal rune]

lets gatekeep endgame chat

Selena_Yes

[formal radish]

U weren't even playing the game at that time

[lone cedar]

Last question, What's the point of doing that ?

[crystal rune]

??? i was

[formal radish]

Wait when did u start

[crystal rune]

pyro patch

[formal radish]

We still had those?

[crystal rune]

luciaDance

[buoyant hornet]

Always ask here because a lot of people make decisions that brick their account and a lot of people on reddit/twitter are misinformed on things and spread that misinfo

[crystal rune]

they stayed around until like 28th of june from what i remember

[buoyant hornet]

Can check those platforms but always double check here

[brave sigil]

For standard tickets and some Hypertune mats

[crystal rune]

there was one week where it was dark shark hamlet and lamia

[formal radish]

The oldest ppc bosses I remember fighting was uhh

[crystal rune]

(i still didnt get 1.85 at the time)

[buoyant hornet]

Yeah hamlet only died on selena patch and Lucia patch still had lamia

[formal radish]

Redliv, Luna, and the mooneater

[lone cedar]

Thanks

[formal radish]

Not in the same week

[lone cedar]

Here in meta or here in the discord ?

[buoyant hornet]

Mooneater damn y'all are babies

[formal radish]

Sorry unc I only started playing uppc after alisa rework

[buoyant hornet]

in this channel specifically because the "general" help is full of misinformation without regulation

[crystal rune]

the first week i joined uppc shorthalt beat my ass broke

[buoyant hornet]

Wow you're baby player

[crystal rune]

UN_PoincoSuspect

[formal radish]

Wait

[buoyant hornet]

I used to selectively choose depending on week lmao back then adv ppc reward was higher than sub-1.75m exppc

[young badge]

nergi

[formal radish]

I think I remember fifhting huaxu?

[buoyant hornet]

Yes he was terrorizing everyone

[lone cedar]

Ok ok thank you

[buoyant hornet]

Extremely tanky ice boss with long intro

[formal radish]

What if he said nergo

[crystal rune]

Lucia Big Brain

[young badge]

thank god i didnt missinput o

[crystal rune]

i also remember using plasma on madorea that one time

WorryKnows

[formal radish]

How long did celica take to make unc

Unc fell asleep at the table it's ovebr

[crystal rune]

Susge~1

[crystal rune]

isnt that machia

LuciaThinking

[young badge]

u pulling vero right?

[crystal rune]

yes ofc Selena_Yes

[buoyant hornet]

Machi was after huaxu yes but at the time huaxu was also considered obiz

[crystal rune]

idr huaxu having that long of an intro

[buoyant hornet]

Wasn't luna levels but was still relatively long for how tanky he was

[crystal rune]

4s intro worrythink

[compact fern]

luna was tanky af in old fire days

[buoyant hornet]

Similar to camu the anim is longer than average + tanky so their scores were painge

[balmy trail]

I have a question..
Did I make a mistake by spending some cards here?

[icy otter]

No

You're supposed to clear it out at some point

[balmy trail]

oh thx god I thought I did something very wrong.😅💔

[buoyant hornet]

Idk about "supposed"

It's 15k bc and on a new player f2p acc

[mild egret]

Demn whel

[compact fern]

f2p got no rights anymore just enjoy casually

[icy otter]

I said some point

Not day 3 of playing the game

[buoyant hornet]

You'll have to wait a good while to pull Veronica but this patch should hopefully give you enough

[peak halo]

[compact fern]

its pointless ngl trying to keep up with meta if u f2p

[icy otter]

Not really

[compact fern]

harmo killed all hope for f2p lol

[buoyant hornet]

Well I'm f2p and meta so now what

[peak halo]

[crystal rune]

Selena_Yes

[compact fern]

u bounce hero/legend every week?
185k ppc every week?

[crystal rune]

yes

[buoyant hornet]

....yes

[crystal rune]

meta is simple as f2p if you just dont pull skins

especially nowadays Selena_Yes

[icy otter]

Just get 180k 185 is cosmetic

[compact fern]

and u didnt even know how alisa worked till 3 days ago
interesting

[mild egret]

Guide me plz

Im suck at phys

[buoyant hornet]

Completely f2p acc
https://youtu.be/znYRcuxSlO0?si=aApSZuwHIGryFsbm

[mossy creek]

SS3 dante vs SS vera as fire dps
both with their weps

[compact fern]

its just normal stuff
that guy didnt even know how alisa buffs work

[warped axle]

vera no diff

[buoyant hornet]

Are you seriously saying that me not knowing a niche and mostly unimportant detail about her leap kit means I don't know anything

I'd like to see how much you know then lmaooo

[compact fern]

unimportant?
how u even playing glacio?

[mild egret]

Wheres ken chan when theres hot topic like this

[buoyant hornet]

https://youtu.be/HXnvKb0CvDc?si=U9Koaxmi3EG2PUAs

[mossy creek]

so i use vera onfield with epitaph nd empyrea as qte bots?
issit fine

[compact fern]

6m is mid af lmao

[balmy trail]

My account is brand new I haven't even completed two weeks yet.

[buoyant hornet]

Ok use my invest and let's see you get more

[icy otter]

Why we calling 6m mid in the same argument as f2p can't keep up with meta

[peak halo]

U. Whell

[compact fern]

but u said u legend every week

[buoyant hornet]

Man shut up lmao some dumb rando trying to tell me a f2p 6m score is "mid"

[warped axle]

yes, and use sig memory for vera

[mossy creek]

alrighty!!

[crystal rune]

can you tell me your fire invest pls

[buoyant hornet]

Do you read your own messages

[compact fern]

ok how much score u got this week wz just show it

[buoyant hornet]

Check hero leaderboard I'm always on there when I'm on hero

[compact fern]

im not saying f2p is bad im saying kuro technically killed f2ps

[mild egret]

Kuro kill whel

[buoyant hornet]

232 112, I'm gonna test with 22.32 before ranking up wata to potentially make a video

[mild egret]

[peak halo]

[compact fern]

how can i check wz leaderboard lmao

[crystal rune]

alright ill be waiting Selena_Yes

[buoyant hornet]

No they did not lmao don't speak on things you clearly don't know

[compact fern]

[buoyant hornet]

Huaxu genius

Lmao bruh

[peak halo]

Bro f2ps always no right or be need lucky in wep banner

[crystal rune]

WorryTiredOfYourShit

[compact fern]

it wasnt this bad with older units tbh

[buoyant hornet]

I'm f2p with every relevant sig and cub what

And I got offrated before

Multiple times

[compact fern]

especially after harmo

[warped axle]

forced to pay

[buoyant hornet]

Do I really have to screenshot my RC count 💀

[icy otter]

Cub

U whel

[buoyant hornet]

Look at snazz TW acc

[buoyant hornet]

Just because y'all are bad at planning doesn't mean everyone is

[crystal rune]

Selena_Yes almost same

[icy otter]

It was sarcasm!!!

[warped axle]

what f2p pulls cub!!1!11!!1

[icy otter]

So true

As an f2p who destroyed his account by going -200 pulls on dmc I can guarantee I have no pulls for cubs

[crystal rune]

pepe_point_laugh

[compact fern]

it feels like this 3x patch thingy has created not of misinfo
pulling cub+sig with normal rewards is lol
its not even about planning

u either get super lucky or u cucked

[buoyant hornet]

No you can literally recycle for free cubs with ore

[peak halo]

I said its 2 sided
The game let u get which need or not
If u planning well u can get rights

[buoyant hornet]

There's no misinfo you just don't know

[hollow cosmos]

[buoyant hornet]

Also can you show your score and invest while you're at it I wanna see something

[buoyant hornet]

Stonks

[crimson swan]

hes just too dalao for us

we caant understand what he says

[crystal rune]

gawd

[compact fern]

i havent even enter yet

will show later sure

[hollow cosmos]

fighting over meta

peak

[crystal rune]

luciaDance

[buoyant hornet]

I don't usually do that but since someone decided to be a smartass then I'm down to play that game

[hollow cosmos]

well, to be fair, WZ fluctuation this week is a mess

like, wdym i get more scores in Fire than these affix stages?

[azure barn]

Fire is the only zone that scores well this week

[crystal rune]

Selena_Yes

[azure barn]

and even then the score still fluctuates a lot cuz 2 Elite sucks for Fire

[pine slate]

Look at me, f2p and have every cub and sig at r2 minimum

[crystal rune]

Susge~1

[compact fern]

🐳

[icy otter]

R2 mods take his acc away

[crystal rune]

can someone explain wata comepletely not applying shred

[leaden tinsel]

yes to lose f2p status you need atleast ss cubs

[crystal rune]

nice leap innit broke

[hollow cosmos]

but yeah, iz true that fluctuation this week is weird, and 6M is natural for an f2p investment this week(Hero WZ)

[buoyant hornet]

Horrible affix zone and lightning is dogwater this week too lol

[leaden tinsel]

i went from lvl10 to lvl74 tundra in one sitting 🥴

[hollow cosmos]

Fire dalao🛐

[leaden tinsel]

wolfie strat op

[crystal rune]

well its tundra broke

[hollow cosmos]

malding Tundra

[leaden tinsel]

wata leap aquired

[crystal rune]

gawd

[buoyant hornet]

It wasn't even this week lol this week's zone score is horrible not even 5.5m glacio and 22.13 112 ion is barely 6m

[pine slate]

Hero legend bounce is casual bro

[buoyant hornet]

That clown was probably just ragebaiting me anyway but saying f2p can't do anything is straight up misinfo when a new player is asking about it

[minor geyser]

i need 16 more days to get lilith

[crystal rune]

cool

[coarse gorge]

what is the rotation for sss wata(using with ss vera and ss3 lucia)

[azure barn]

is it the Yellow strat?

[minor geyser]

is lilith rlly the last one u get from pity

[compact fern]

hes f2p so i assumed ss ro/r1 invest across board
not casual for them xd

[hollow cosmos]

f2p gatekeeping, crazy

[crystal rune]

elon musk route yes Selena_Yes

[formal radish]

Personally, I, as a person who doesn't plan, got by just fine in pgr presync

[pine slate]

https://youtu.be/DkZtYo4dIg4?si=KsjubZWlasW_i0eT

@coarse gorge

[leaden tinsel]

https://youtu.be/mOhFPtwRJ4U?si=xzIkSnTb3vKwkbqN

[coarse gorge]

[buoyant hornet]

Depends on which strat

[compact fern]

bro u dont even have crazy scores if u scored like snazz i would understand

[buoyant hornet]

It's almost as if he has higher invest than me

Lmao just shut up if you're gonna talk about scores you should show your own first

[compact fern]

thats the entire point duh
f2p bricked

[buoyant hornet]

With invest listed too

Don't give me a 7m run with a 333 team like a clown

[compact fern]

first time seeing 6m score displayed as flex

[chilly glade]

i did only one pull for fun and got wanshi sig weapon

[compact fern]

nice

[buoyant hornet]

Ok play my invest and get better score then dalao

Less talking more malding

[leaden tinsel]

so the point is if you spend money you get higher score? wowza

[compact fern]

why u missing the point?
am i saying im more skilled
bruh

[hollow cosmos]

it's a flex for an f2p I'd say

unless you p2w, of course it's nothing for u🥀

[compact fern]

these new wps after hermo and these ss3s
f2ps arent same as before

i never said anything about skill
u might be more skilled than me but i score higher than u anyway

[buoyant hornet]

Then what's your point you're just saying nothing

[buoyant hornet]

And what?

What did you achieve then

[compact fern]

ok give me update how u feel 6 months after integrated patch ends
if u still got all relevant sigs and cubs by then ill agree with u

[peak halo]

[buoyant hornet]

I have 55k bc I'll be very fine because I don't throw bc at every pitfall

[pine slate]

F2ps can get sigs and cubs tho

[buoyant hornet]

Skip DMC = stonks

[peak halo]

[buoyant hornet]

Even if I pulled vergil + sig I'd still have more than I need

And Dante is irrelevant already

[coarse gorge]

[pine slate]

Is the argument about if f2ps can get sigs and cubs?

[leaden tinsel]

theres no argument

[peak halo]

Be lucky luke

[buoyant hornet]

Idek that person was telling a newbie that f2p can't do anything in meta and telling them to stay casual

[crystal rune]

luciaDance

[hollow cosmos]

only thing i can deduct here is

f2p players vs spender

[pine slate]

No need to be lucky

[compact fern]

@pine slate were u able to copy this till end?
my lucia ran out of orbs for 2nd ult around 30 sec clock left

[pine slate]

New players may find it hard to get sigs cuz of the amount of sigs and characters they'd need

But if u been playing for some time, sigs r ez to get

[crystal rune]

how long is some time

[pine slate]

Why u asking me, I don't use pyro

[leaden tinsel]

like 3

[pine slate]

Imagine using pyro on fire

[compact fern]

if u sack all your old sigs yeah maybe f2p can survive

[crystal rune]

half way there got it worrythink

[compact fern]

is sss dante really better than ss3 pyro?

[pine slate]

U don't need to sack anything wdym

[compact fern]

how will u get resos

[buoyant hornet]

Firegod was right

[pine slate]

Well resos ofc

Wasn't the argument about sigs and cubs

[pine slate]

Idk, if I see someone on hero score higher than me on same invest with ss3 pyro then she's better

If not Dante better

[compact fern]

bro
which spender who pulls sigs wont have resos
its about f2p surviving in this economy

[buoyant hornet]

I have resos needed for basic function and excess I can use for amps and tanks that want them so that's not an argument either

[pulsar shell]

What’s better for ss0 Lucia pyroath, atk or basic attack reso? Or is it literally the same dmg wise? Thx in advance

[hollow cosmos]

small diff, but id pick atk

[compact fern]

u got 9m right?
ss3 gera?

[pine slate]

9.7m

Ss0 vera

[visual topaz]

My f2p alts are doing fine too even despite losing some sig pulls

[buoyant hornet]

Atk since now she seems to lean towards doing 2 ults instead of just eclipse

[peak halo]

Im casual and can play meta
Even in my f2p time
Even in my just mpa time

[compact fern]

yeah dont think pyro can beat it then xd

[obsidian dune]

@pine slate

[compact fern]

damn pyro already dead in fire

[obsidian dune]

max score like i predict

[pine slate]

Single ult Dante?

[obsidian dune]

i got on vid too

[azure barn]

the comparison is between SS3 Pyroath and SSS Dante it's not even an equal comparison 💀

[obsidian dune]

yes

i ran 2p fire 2p eins

[pine slate]

[peak halo]

Lao

[compact fern]

it is kinda cuz sss dante actually needs less amount of pulls than ss3 pyro

sss dante is lot more achievable than sss pyro

[pine slate]

Sss Dante is 21k, ss3 pyro is 30k

[compact fern]

yeah

[buoyant hornet]

Yep same I didn't have magical luck the whole time either, got several offrates before and my first ever super early character was Vera on one of my accs (I also got Wata pre-pity but it was still like 50+ pity iirc)

[compact fern]

i regret not making dante sss smh

[pine slate]

Nuke told me max score is 10.3m for ss3 pyro or smth

[pine slate]

Or 10.2

[azure barn]

meanwhile Ignition kicking him out in the meta

[compact fern]

send run if u find it

[formal radish]

I don't remember Jesus talking about Lucis

[compact fern]

vero really bench dante?
not vera?

[pine slate]

I doubt Dante is getting kicked out if ur Vero is ss0

Maybe if higher invest Dante gets kicked out

Still, I don't trust cn player scores

[formal radish]

How's SSS dante vs SS Lucia

[compact fern]

whats cap score for ignition in cn?

[azure barn]

24m

[crystal rune]

2440w

[compact fern]

withourt dante?

[crystal rune]

yes

[azure barn]

yes

[pine slate]

For now 24m without Dante

[crystal rune]

with dante was like 2200w smth

[azure barn]

with Dante it's 22m

[compact fern]

uff
how much with dante

ahh

damn rough

[azure barn]

I'm fine with it since he's a collab unit

[mighty tusk]

vergil next when?

[azure barn]

never should've made them meta in the first place really

[compact fern]

is cap score for fire also use dante or is pyro still better at max invest?

[icy otter]

Were nier units not good when they came out

[pine slate]

Pyro ofc

[wind hemlock]

what do I use against powered?

[icy otter]

Glacio

[pine slate]

Dante fire dmg is ass

[compact fern]

whats cap score for fire?

[azure barn]

yeah still Pyroath at max

[pine slate]

It's just that pyro dmg is even more ass at ss

[visual topaz]

【最极致的提速！顶配焚烧豪取2431w碾压所有区-哔哩哔哩】 https://b23.tv/VGV8vML

[icy otter]

So ur saying id do more with ss3 donte than ss0 Pyro in fire

[azure barn]

like 18m maybe? Not sure

[pine slate]

No

[compact fern]

hmm
at what rank does vero start benching dante?
consider dante sss

[pine slate]

If ur Dante is ss3 better throw him away

U could try and see which is better

[icy otter]

-60 pulls wallahi

[pine slate]

Cuz even Dante sss dmg is kinda meh later on in the run

And it gives a huge multiplier to his dmg

[feral pollen]

get kuso'd

[compact fern]

of course not

[wind hemlock]

Speaking of Veronica, does she buff at SSR1H1 ultima slash much better than SSR0H1 Echo?

[pine slate]

Ss0 pyro and ss3 pyro afaik has no on field dmg diff, only qte dmg

[fading kestrel]

a decent bit better
but literally equal to sss echo

[pine slate]

Also remember that pyro is 2 ult now instead of 1

[compact fern]

ss3 pyro u can feel in plasma xd
zero impact on fire more or less

plasma ss3 pyro is pretty big

[pine slate]

Nah the qte dmg is good for wave progressions

[wind hemlock]

Aite, not enough to make Discord score 580k at Powered

[minor geyser]

should i spam ignition startrail sig or lightning one

[pine slate]

Nah, ss3 pyro is mid on plasma until u get sss nanami

[compact fern]

lmao rip pyro

[visual topaz]

【爱因薇拉批发传奇火单2111w-哔哩哔哩】 https://b23.tv/PgbUw4v not sure if it's cap score

[pine slate]

I've seen ss3 pyro using ss0 rot and score better on plasma than ss3 rot in some cases

[formal radish]

Honestly, I really really regret pulling ss3 pyroath

[fading kestrel]

you use lightning in lightning content
you use ignition in igniton content

[buoyant hornet]

No ss vero >>> ss echo pookie

[compact fern]

noway

[formal radish]

Pretty sure 1s1e1s wasn't even meta pre vera

[pine slate]

Ye it wasn't

[azure barn]

Yeah it wasn't

[buoyant hornet]

Yeah Nuke does that

[formal radish]

And SS0 ion rots are just better anyway

[pine slate]

Aether hyped tf outta pyro 3 rot at ss3 for some reason

[azure barn]

We thought it was for a while tho LMAO

[formal radish]

Atleast 3355 is braindead easy for wantap

[compact fern]

u cant even double slash eclipse with ss0 pyro noway u teeling me ss3 and ss pyro same score

[obsidian dune]

33355 my acc plis

[formal radish]

No

[visual topaz]

No clue

[buoyant hornet]

How far behind were we in terms of pyro? I'm surprised it took them like 6 months to realize 1s1e1s isn't just worse

[pine slate]

Ss0 pyro rot has 5 swap ins, ss3 rot is 4 swap in

[still moat]

ss3 pyro on plasma is more useful when she is with 3S nanami

[azure barn]

I just saw Alex do a hybrid low-high invest rot on Plasma Pyroath

[fading kestrel]

but yes to equal at sss?

[still moat]

u can see the difference between ss0 vs ss3 pyro on that team

[fading kestrel]

echo 3s, vero 2s

[pine slate]

With sss nanami's -3s, the ss3 rot can swap 5 times

[azure barn]

I think he did 33445 this cycle

[compact fern]

ok nanami in voucher when

[buoyant hornet]

Ion doesn't do 1s1s1e all the time that's ancient strat

[formal radish]

I'm pretty sure you can 3rot with ss0 lucia

[fading kestrel]

oh wait vero still access to the extra 2 mem slots

[pine slate]

Ss0 pyro can 5 slash bro wdym

[compact fern]

1s1s1e?im not talking about 5s

[formal radish]

Not that u should but

[still moat]

33445 is orb brick

[formal radish]

I know man

[buoyant hornet]

It does different things every swap to maximize her total number of ults in the full run

[still moat]

i think u mean 33554 which is a legit rot

[formal radish]

She can 1s1e1s in fire of course she can do it in ion

[azure barn]

I guess it's that yeah

[compact fern]

[still moat]

actually nvm 33445 can, 33455 cant

[buoyant hornet]

P sure eclipse shuts down her next ults in ion 😭

[formal radish]

Does it

[compact fern]

show run bro

[formal radish]

Just 2x3p

[buoyant hornet]

I tried before and her hold basic just stops working LMAOOO

[formal radish]

[compact fern]

i never saw ss pyro doing triple rot

[formal radish]

Ook maybe she cant do it but ss0 rot are still better

[chilly trail]

She can

[crystal rune]

Selena_Yes

[formal radish]

Cause you usually wouldn't do it anyway

[buoyant hornet]

She can

Just not every swap

[compact fern]

[formal radish]

It should be possible but it's just not optimal

[compact fern]

ah of course i see now

[formal radish]

Unless specific mald circumstance

Just 55555 bro

[buoyant hornet]

Even at ss3 it's not always optimal as nuke has proved

[crystal rune]

WorryKnows

[formal radish]

Would 5555 even be better than a 12415

[azure barn]

I'm so glad I don't have to do SS0 rots on Plasma anymore

Since I have SSS Nanaknight

[obsidian dune]

ss3 pyro is fraud

[buoyant hornet]

It isnt6

[obsidian dune]

need 3s teammate to work

[buoyant hornet]

5555 is big fraud

[compact fern]

man ss3 pyro was so hyped i got baited into pulling

[obsidian dune]

i back pulled ss3 pyro

[buoyant hornet]

I remember I tried it on ss3 comps and then I got 1.5m higher by doing 33554 iirc

[buoyant hornet]

😭😭😭

[obsidian dune]

not possible tf

[compact fern]

at least its not as fraud as bianca ss3

[buoyant hornet]

The gap is huge it's not even comparable

[compact fern]

[obsidian dune]

bianca ss3 actually not fraud

[formal radish]

Bianca ss3 is better

[obsidian dune]

its quite good

[buoyant hornet]

Like genuinely never do 5555 lol

[compact fern]

if u have dlt i think its fraud

[buoyant hornet]

Honestly in isolation it's really bad but it compliments the team really well

[pine slate]

Wat

[compact fern]

what will u do with orbs if cant ult anyway

[buoyant hornet]

Blue orb gets a huge boost + the orb detonation you can do

[formal radish]

Ok I'm not trying to be rude but I genuinely have no idea what ur truing to say

[buoyant hornet]

Not to mention qte nuke

[crystal rune]

nuke? whwere

[formal radish]

What doe she mean with orbs

[buoyant hornet]

Ss3 isn't about orb economy

[buoyant hornet]

Probably misread the fact that the red orb detonation during blue gets refunded

[crystal rune]

worrythink

[buoyant hornet]

You always on his neck LMFAOOO

[compact fern]

how much extra score does ss3 bianca net over ss bianca usually?consider both are r3 with dlt and sss lilick

[formal radish]

I don't know that's a hyper specific invest

[crystal rune]

i mean last time rydle tested it netted a 1m score diff

[leaden tinsel]

around 1m i've heard

[formal radish]

I have ss3r1 bianca only

[crimson swan]

closer to 400k

[compact fern]

sss lilick is the average invest
i added r3 cuz ss0 needs dlt ss3 doesnt

[formal radish]

SS0 needs dlt?

[crystal rune]

worrythink

[pine slate]

Both doesn't need dlt wdym

[azure barn]

SS0 likes DLT, not need

[compact fern]

yea u waste time without dlt

[crystal rune]

need no, good to have? yes

[pine slate]

But it's good to have for rot speed

[crimson swan]

heavily dependant on brak point but barely score diff

[azure barn]

That's only on the first swap lmao

[compact fern]

try copying snazz rot without dlt it just doesnt work

[formal radish]

Is that even worth over like glorious

[azure barn]

I wouldn't say that's a "need" at all

[crystal rune]

i see WorryThinkAsian

[buoyant hornet]

There's no strict value increase but last week I did ss0 vs. ss3 both accounts in NA hero and got 900k better than ss0

[formal radish]

Doesn't he just do rydle rot... which doesn't use dlt?

[compact fern]

no xd

[buoyant hornet]

Yeah you just need to stall less than 1s without dlt to get the extra orb before swapout

So you might as well just ping red while you're at it and insta ult next swap

[compact fern]

i got dlt just to copy his rot xd
and for the ppc nuke

[buoyant hornet]

No he tried skipping 3red before swapout and instantly swapping when she does red flash hold basic

Then doing 3red on entry next swap

Which doesn't work without dlt

[pine slate]

Bro what

[buoyant hornet]

Because it doesn't stall for the extra orb every swap

[compact fern]

try it

till end of run