📨・meta-help

[formal radish]

Rip mycle

[round lake]

idk Vera is just there to hold atk boost so I can assume R2 and Vero R1 in exchange

[noble zinc]

Failed to retain 2 IDs me washed

[round lake]

not SS3, that -3s CD is what make him better

[unborn hound]

what's your invest in ice?

[barren plank]

Bro my ice was 600K lower fym washed

[barren plank]

233 112

[ripe stag]

I see

[warped axle]

oh yeah makes sense

[ripe stag]

Got an idea of the situation now

[unborn hound]

fk whel

[ripe stag]

Oh god

GOD

I'M DEAD

[round lake]

hi dead

[ripe stag]

[warped axle]

its gonna take me ages to finally 3S wata

[chilly glade]

hi dead, im topic

[unborn hound]

@barren plank is wata still better than vera even with ss3 nanami in burn team?

[barren plank]

3S wata?

[unborn hound]

yes

[ripe stag]

Yea

[barren plank]

Um

I dont even have Dante

So no comment

[warped axle]

-3s cd too good ig

[chilly glade]

[unborn hound]

im not talking dante bruh

[barren plank]

We're talking about ignition right

[round lake]

Dante basically ded anyway no need to care about him anymore

[unborn hound]

i mean vero

vero nana and who?

wata or vera

assuming nana ss3

[warped axle]

rip dante investers

[round lake]

I dont think SS3 Nana change anything major

[barren plank]

Probably Wata I would assume

[warped axle]

who's main DPS for vero-nana duo?

[unborn hound]

[round lake]

Vero ofc

[barren plank]

Veronica at high invest, tho both her and Startrail are doing significant damage

[warped axle]

dlt is required ig

[unborn hound]

i hope and beg no burn next week

[leaden dragon]

How do you get Vergil and is he beginner friendly?

[barren plank]

Vergil is gone forever and ever

[noble zinc]

[chilly glade]

vergil goner

[round lake]

ofc

[opaque ridge]

now we know how nero feels

[warped axle]

wdym at high invest? nanami would be doing more damage than vero, SS3 vs. SS0?

my nanami is SS3

[opaque ridge]

its time to give our father a beating

[barren plank]

If vero is below SSS, Dante might still be better

But there's a lot of info we dont have rn

[warped axle]

it might seem crazy what am boutta say

[round lake]

It seems Vero > Dante at equal invest

[warped axle]

well, dante still useless since vero nana duo still does similar dmg 💔

[opaque ridge]

i blame the weather tbh

too much fire buffs

[round lake]

some dalaos here might be able to do stuffs about Vero so take Bilibili stuffs with a grain of salt

[barren plank]

No it's something something two have bad synergy something something Veronica buffs dont last whole team rotation

Idr too well

[unborn hound]

if i was a betting man i would bet my left nut that he will reso a 3rd time this week to try and beat me

[opaque ridge]

amp buffs run out at the start because of rot prep

[barren plank]

Not the amp buff, her converted heal

[leaden dragon]

He’s not beginner friendly? 🙁

[opaque ridge]

converted heal?

[round lake]

bro... he's gone forever

[barren plank]

Not really

Also he's gone

You cannot get him anymore

[round lake]

he already left for the milk

[opaque ridge]

wtf this week's guild battle is all mommy

[chilly glade]

DMC COLLAB IS GONE BRO, GONE TO DUSTED. YOU WERE TOO LATE!!!

[leaden dragon]

How late?!?

[barren plank]

I would just not recommend pulling anyone

Till we get info for Liv patch

[warped axle]

didn't know vero skin was that tuff 👅

[barren plank]

Like a month late

[chilly glade]

you were at month late bud

[warped axle]

basedsimov

[opaque ridge]

if anyone asks u who to pick at the start, always tell them startrail

[round lake]

Nanami still being the best unit in the game for over a year since her debut

[opaque ridge]

nanami is the elon musk of pgr

[round lake]

[warped axle]

good for 5 teams, might be more on zaza comps

[round lake]

it's gonna take A LOT to powercreep her

[warped axle]

lebron of PGR

[barren plank]

Oblivion is still better but since we have the issue of not having future oversight anymore of who's coming, it's best just not to recommend anyone for the time being

[round lake]

the only gen 3 tank slot left is Dark, best they can do is give them Plasma

[barren plank]

Till we get info from Liv patch

[opaque ridge]

nanami good in too many teams

[round lake]

that's 1 team down from 5 meta teams

[opaque ridge]

the moment u become a physical unit though, ur a joke

[warped axle]

still unanswered

[round lake]

still the best unit in the game

[opaque ridge]

high invest is SSS right?

[round lake]

high invest means SSS and upward bro

[barren plank]

Probably? Veronica's goods for ignition are at SSS

[round lake]

SS3 is bait invest

[warped axle]

would SS3 nanami be better than SS0 vero though?

[round lake]

I don't think so

[opaque ridge]

i was actually having some fun with ignition wz before but im too sleepy to tryhard

[warped axle]

maybe in that case I could give nanami a bit more field

[round lake]

but regardless, you'd want to do 4 Nanami ult every swap

[opaque ridge]

but nanami triple rot is insane

[warped axle]

good to know

[round lake]

that won't change with invest

[opaque ridge]

4 rot?

[round lake]

I've only done 3 but I saw 4

[opaque ridge]

u shouldnt do 4 though

[warped axle]

swap extra energy with cottie maybe

[opaque ridge]

amp buff runs out

nanami only runs cottie though

[round lake]

can't remember who did it ima send it here when I can find it

[barren plank]

Yea since we dunno if Liv patch might bring base banner resets or new selectors or whatnot

[round lake]

not holding, they should definitely get Startrail or Vera Gay(if intended to pull Thunderbolt for Startrail)

[barren plank]

And if they miss out on the chance to get Oblivion?

[round lake]

they won't

[opaque ridge]

wait wtf i was meant to run 2 cottie on vera

[hazy sandal]

Weekly done
Lets sleep

[round lake]

our next selector on CN.Y will definitely be up to Oblivion at minimum

make another one up to Qu and ima lose it

[lament yoke]

who you sleeping with

[opaque ridge]

whens CNY again

[round lake]

should be Feb?

[lament yoke]

(imagine if setsu does the mom joke)

[barren plank]

It's kuro, you never know
I just say wait for Liv patch to come out in beta like 3 weeks from now and we will have a more definitve answer

[hazy sandal]

Vergil

[round lake]

well that would be the ideal route but knowing newbies mindset, they wouldn't be able to wait for so long

I guess Startrail will always be the correct choice regardless

[barren plank]

If they cant wait that's their problem

[warped axle]

I have 43/60 in banner and 6k blue tickets waiting rn

[opaque ridge]

Liv will save pgr, ibelieve

[round lake]

it's a safe pick and if Kuso let us get S rank reset then they can get Vera Gay too

[warped axle]

NOT even hanying 💔

[opaque ridge]

physical is donezo

[round lake]

can we just kill Hanying

[warped axle]

I don't need SS3 Luna

[opaque ridge]

the moment ur a physical unit, u have no future

[round lake]

fcking Daren of this era, invest hungry and works like shjt

no, Daren is better because her leap actually let her do her job faster

[opaque ridge]

meanwhile nanami saved lightning, ion, ignition all by herself

[warped axle]

Hanying would get powercrept and still exist in trash slash 💔🥀

[keen sable]

i mean cant u stack physical shred? people did run hanying rosetta alisa

[round lake]

there's no fixing until Hanying get a leap

[unborn hound]

tick

tock

tick

tock

[opaque ridge]

physical damage sucks, period

[round lake]

We need to kill Physical

[keen sable]

[round lake]

I'd like to say kill Ice too but may be Liv will save it

[opaque ridge]

liv will be like nanami for lightning

[warped axle]

just make elemental damage crit, it will save PGR introducing RNG variables

[minor geyser]

What memory set for s rank crimson weave as qte on startrail

[opaque ridge]

ice savior

[unborn hound]

wtf based

[round lake]

2 Eins 4 Da vinci

[warped axle]

Liv on plasmabeam bc Glow affix

[minor geyser]

Thanks

[unborn hound]

comrade liv believer

[round lake]

I'm saving for SSS Liv, betting everything on her

[warped axle]

qu is dead, we run double amp on ice

[unborn hound]

comrade liv will save us

[unborn hound]

unfathomably based

[lament yoke]

why do you use comrade with liv

[unborn hound]

qu must die

[round lake]

tbh, I can't lose on this one
if she's Ice, my Ice is saved
if she's Lightning, my Nanami would love it

[warped axle]

win win either way

[unborn hound]

if i say i will get banned

[round lake]

[lament yoke]

say it in LS

[opaque ridge]

imagine they make liv lightning amp

[shy jackal]

That's because rosetta's phys shred is diff I think

They had to make a new general phys shred

It's now called piercing blow or something

[unborn hound]

@leaden tinsel @crystal rune @karmic anvil

[barren plank]

Tbh that wouldn't be that bad either

[unborn hound]

[unborn hound]

nuh uh

[barren plank]

Both Kaleido and Feral suck

[lament yoke]

:its over:

my goat azriel cant be this washed

[shy jackal]

At least the light team would be nana and liv swap then

[unborn hound]

he is gonna reso at the last second trust

[barren plank]

Tbh while I dont mind either getting booted, at least Qu and LD can hold their weight

[lament yoke]

[barren plank]

Nanami is forced to do everything

CW is also trash

Liv would make lightning not suck

[lament yoke]

please next week give ion/void

@unborn hound btw can i try your acc if there's void next week

[shy jackal]

Not suck as much*

[unborn hound]

true but have you considered the following

[unborn hound]

sure

[barren plank]

No cause Qu is still at least decent at chaining waves even if she's an older unit

[lament yoke]

232.3?

[unborn hound]

i dont care how good she is i just want her to die a brutal death

[opaque ridge]

[lament yoke]

i assume we have to use wata in void and back to ampmael🛌 ?

[unborn hound]

i assume u mean wata as sss?

yeah

[lament yoke]

👩‍🦽‍➡️

[unborn hound]

we are so back

now i have to learn how to wata

[lament yoke]

https://tenor.com/view/haru-urara-haru-uma-musume-carrot-reward-gif-7908608631323631444

[unborn hound]

@barren plank HOW TO WATA PLZ

[lament yoke]

no wata please no

[rocky wedge]

Rather her than plume honestly

[warped axle]

https://tenor.com/view/homelander-based-the-boys-homelander-the-boys-facts-gif-26206051

[keen sable]

i need someone for lightning sick of that garbage team

[unborn hound]

20 min

[lament yoke]

https://tenor.com/view/immediately-summons-2-revenant-shadows-explode-wishadel-otter-arknights-gif-10159215411272662651

[unborn hound]

https://tenor.com/view/my-honest-reaction-meme-robert-pattinson-suit-meme-my-honest-reaction-gif-9336155743238770356

[leaden tinsel]

still chilling

[unborn hound]

he gonna get you i believe

alelan you can do it

i believe

[hybrid veldt]

Eh Close to 10m

[lament yoke]

get sniped sniped sniped

[unborn hound]

snipe that skill issued fraud

[lament yoke]

if only you were azriel....

[leaden tinsel]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/1383785490360172584/1424409871683682518/km_fastrun.gif

[lament yoke]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/1383785490360172584/1424409871683682518/km_fastrun.gif

[unborn hound]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/1383785490360172584/1424409871683682518/km_fastrun.gif

[lament yoke]

nuke is so cute

[unborn hound]

15 MINUTES

VICTORY IS AT HAND

5 MINUTES

[warped axle]

I'm actually moving to legend no way 🥀🥀🥀

[unborn hound]

that is one bricked ass bracket

why is your score low

drop huaxu

[warped axle]

https://huaxu.app/ap/players/23334282/characters

Ice's fault

[unborn hound]

your lightning and ts are also low

pretty good dark score

[warped axle]

SS3 lilick for amp on light

carried by SS3 nanami

[leaden tinsel]

@unborn hound screen

[unborn hound]

@noble zinc thnx for the help

nuke saved me by 70k points

[chilly glade]

[frank kindle]

we back

[unborn hound]

show your screen

u been sniped haven't u

[lament yoke]

https://tenor.com/view/chips-gif-21797354

[unborn hound]

SHOW IT

[unborn hound]

https://tenor.com/view/zoolander-meme-lightskin-stare-owen-wilson-ben-stiller-gif-27270450

plz no phys or burn

plz

[leaden tinsel]

but where promote screen

[warped axle]

I'M FREAKING BRICKED ITS OVER

[warped axle]

whale bracket

[lament yoke]

yay more fodder in legend next week

[final fog]

How much score is possible for dark ib?
223 113 111

[warped axle]

300k+

[final fog]

Oh really?

[lament yoke]

[warped axle]

the boss is squishy for dark

[median shell]

If you're willing to put that much time, then yes

[final fog]

No i mean i expected more

Like 315k or smth

[warped axle]

I got 290k with 222.1 111 111

[warped axle]

what's the point of the "+" I put

[final fog]

I thought you meant around 300k

[lament yoke]

307250 with no bonca
@noble zinc you were the one who did my ib?

[leaden tinsel]

monday reset bracket

[unborn hound]

u now aren't skill issued

at least for a week

[unborn hound]

im gonna add bro as a friend

[leaden tinsel]

legend brothers 💪

[deft apex]

.extaria

[pine pier]

How important is ss3 Bianca crepiscule

[leaden tinsel]

lmao yes and trash talk him

[deft apex]

He's live rn

Go get him tiger

[unborn hound]

https://tenor.com/view/predator-arnold-schwarzenegger-hand-shake-arms-gif-3468629

we can trash talk other hero players together

@formal radish how does being skill issued in hero feels like

washed+ L + u fell off

[simple dew]

demoted from legend

slack week over

[unborn hound]

imagine being washed smh

[stray siren]

It's a good upgrade for team dark, but I think there are better options like Selena or Nanami

[ripe stag]

Next patch is 40 days

[deft apex]

Might be 41

[noble zinc]

Aybe don't remember

[round lake]

Most SS3 are bait, not worth it

I regret SS3 these frauds Attackers

Aint much change from SS

[still moat]

https://media.discordapp.net/attachments/952829382379061290/1026492027610878045/20211003_105610.gif

[chilly trail]

[unborn hound]

remind me of 2 people who got ss3 qu

someone got her to retain legend and still failed

[still moat]

i retained though

[unborn hound]

[round lake]

[keen sable]

i got qu ss3 since i already have ss3 wata

vouchers going all in new unit

[noble zinc]

Don't do this again reatin not worth acc bricking

fixable still just get some monthlies

or play long

16k more need for 3s wata just from bp can 19k

safe

[leaden tinsel]

fk whel

[karmic anvil]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/1383785490360172584/1424409871683682518/km_fastrun.gif

[noble zinc]

[unborn hound]

i was gonna get ss3 nana either way i just was originally planning to do it after vero

it should be fine still i can probably get vero next week but her sig will wait

[noble zinc]

@unborn hound qu

[unborn hound]

unless i get an early through free tickets i guess

[noble zinc]

I mean getting SS3 not worth for f2ps

what if they run again back to back S ranks

Without enough income

Snazz taiwan I'd state can see 2 bc something left cuz of how many S ranks they pushing

It's luck sack I'd on top of

[karmic anvil]

we all pulling fate on vero yay

[unborn hound]

if only someone didn't make this account dirt poor by pulling for anni banner

[noble zinc]

Id pull for skins as usual better

[karmic anvil]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/1383785490360172584/1424409871683682518/km_fastrun.gif

you get S rank in 5k bc next time, be grateful

[noble zinc]

Bianca skin next i feel

[unborn hound]

mfs in asia don't send cogs at all

[karmic anvil]

i do wdym

add fren request

[unborn hound]

u havent added me

[karmic anvil]

i shall carry xenos legacy and give you cogs everyday

[noble zinc]

Add me why not

[karmic anvil]

[karmic anvil]

mf you unfren me

[noble zinc]

Send again

[karmic anvil]

smh ungrateful folks

[noble zinc]

[unborn hound]

3630 + 1500 + 630

[karmic anvil]

give them a hand to hold in need, and theyll grab your dih

[unborn hound]

wrong bar

[noble zinc]

How much can we still get by patch end @karmic anvil

Me to kazy to calculate do it for me!

[unborn hound]

shiet

[karmic anvil]

you asked wrong person, idek when patch ends

[noble zinc]

Bc

[noble zinc]

12k bc?

[unborn hound]

yeah

for next week

[noble zinc]

[karmic anvil]

95k

[noble zinc]

Fk whel

[young badge]

12k bc next week

[still moat]

oh u joined the bracket

time to snipe

[noble zinc]

[fresh plover]

can lilith trigger eins for plasma?

[barren plank]

Yes since Eins is universally applicable now

[fresh plover]

oh i did not see that it changed

[wind hemlock]

For dark, do I use Ish on 4 Sothoth and 4 DV or on 4Dv 2 Gloria 2 Eins?

[toxic owl]

Which Uniframe is the best considering their leap equivalent skills? And are they viable?

[wind hemlock]

Only in guild battle I guess

[fresh plover]

they are essentially gen 1 units

one of the babel stages always is made with uniframe in mind but even they are generally better done with modern units

unless you actually have a uniframe at SSS

but do NOT invest in that

unless you are a turbowhale

[toxic owl]

I have a decently invested Camu using the stuff from Crimson Weave's questline, and he performed about on the same level as Bianca Crep in Norman Expedition.

[fresh plover]

i somewhat doubt that

[chilly trail]

Wz 4sig 4dv

[fresh plover]

remind me, if my scire is at sss and ish is at SS3

[void meteor]

is this enough to max nana sr

[fresh plover]

do i use scire or ish

for dark wz

and ppc

all other game modes i'll just keep scire for the flavour

[void meteor]

I'll take that as no

[chilly trail]

Scire minimum ss3 r1 for wz

[fresh plover]

scire is SSS r2

[chilly trail]

[unborn hound]

chrrye gib cog

[chilly trail]

Dih want?

[unborn hound]

ye

[chilly trail]

[toxic owl]

Is Bianca Crep's 6 star weapon necessary? Or is the 5 star good enough?

[chilly trail]

I didn't read top chat

[unborn hound]

every character needs sig

[fresh plover]

i put quite a bit of free stuff into scire, but i actually started doing the monthly passes because of her

to get her to ss3

[toxic owl]

A h.

[fresh plover]

and then i got an extra copy of her on some ani and another one from a voucher that didnt really have anything better around the same time

and i dont regret that

[autumn hound]

[unborn hound]

Qu shukra is gonna die

[fresh plover]

For simulated siege, who does more damage SSS lucid dreamer, SS crepuscule or SS pianissimo

[astral bison]

daren is staying till eos so good choice

[fresh plover]

Ten more decades of daren

She'll be added to some other game after eos

[rocky wedge]

DUDE WHY AGAIN I HAVE THESE ZONES IN A DIFF SERVER AHHHHHHHH

im literally going to projectile vomit everywhere holy crap

dark mobs AGAIN man holy mf and ice AGAIN xD

[rocky wedge]

she can play without sig, but she wants sig for best results

[unborn hound]

dread it run from it

ice and dark mobs still arrive

[rocky wedge]

ice at least is boss

if the zone is bad im going to destroy something

[unborn hound]

just wantap and leave tbh 4 weeks of this insanity

[rocky wedge]

https://tenor.com/view/looney-tunes-cards-bugs-bunny-gif-17667024

[rocky wedge]

i want to but by nature i cant : D hopefully global better

at least no burn, i can chill on vero's sig

[astral bison]

what is ignition team for solo nana

[rocky wedge]

speaking off, time to feed loli to wz

[rocky wedge]

nana + luna oblivion + ss3 / SSS lilith is best - otherwise Nana + wata + vera also fine if u dont have invested lilith or missing luna

[astral bison]

good thing i just got wata

do i put 4dv on wata and 222 on vera then?

[rocky wedge]

i think give vera dv and wata u can leap and use shakespeare + ein, do u have leap resources for him?

does vera or him have sig weapon?

[astral bison]

i have wata leaped already
but only nana has sig

[rocky wedge]

ah ok ye then use dv vera and shake ein wata

u can reset wata qte if u need ein on different wave

[astral bison]

oh im doing ib actually

forgot to mention that

[rocky wedge]

oh right forgot there is burn there, i dont play ppc xD

i actually didnt even think about it sorry Dx

[autumn hound]

can i ask smth dumb?

[lyric pulsar]

recommended set and reso for Qu: Shukra ice team?? 🥹 i just got her from event bc last time i went for unc Wata

[rocky wedge]

hmm im not 100% on the perfect builds for that, I mean what I said will work - not sure if it will give the best outcome there

[astral bison]

4 jiboan 4 cj

[rocky wedge]

sure

[chilly glade]

gg, been an honor

[rocky wedge]

ye gonna go crazy

tho i think already crazy cause of this game

[sand laurel]

[autumn hound]

idk if i should ask this in general help cause that channel seems off topic smhow so i decided to ask here

[autumn hound]

does it still buff stigmata's ult when the number goes red?

im new

[rocky wedge]

i mean u ask here if u want the truth

[sand laurel]

bambiNOta! she doesn’t want to!!!

[rocky wedge]

general help u will get answered based on bias on what not, tho here people will flame casual gaming but i mean doesnt stop people asking for the correct things

[autumn hound]

oh

[rocky wedge]

just shouldnt tell people ur own bs stuff if its not based on a sole opinion xd

[sand laurel]

seeing stigmata in #📨・meta-help
sorry, what year is this?

[rocky wedge]

see like this dummy

[sand laurel]

[autumn hound]

cause it's seems like there's no others helping channel

general help looks like it not even abt pgr😭 i have anxiety

[rocky wedge]

but no that red number is not a buff, it indicates her ult is trueslash which will be buffed yes and deal ts damage but not physical

so dont use this in physical content, only trueslash

[sand laurel]

nah just continue and ignore me

[rocky wedge]

well some also have very bland sarcasm from the game, so they may seem serious but arent

also most that flame others have an issue themselves so u shouldnt care anyway

[autumn hound]

erm..i.. i dont understand
does it mean that if it turns red it's still buff her excalibur morgan's damage right?

[rocky wedge]

yes but only in true slash content

[autumn hound]

oh

[sand laurel]

Think I tried to compete and learn everything like a year ago, but after that I started slacking and diverse into other gachas, now I’m just slacker tourist

[rocky wedge]

i feel like this could be doomy for some reason

seems so familiar 🗿

[autumn hound]

what is slash content what is physical content

[rocky wedge]

well i hope wasnt serious comment xd

idk i dont see point in that stuff, if someone wants serious help - should help them if they are nice about it xd

[autumn hound]

[lament yoke]

no aethervoid to explain affix...

[rocky wedge]

trueslash u only get in pain cage and warzone 3rd map. If you are using Bianca in physical warzone or vs physical bosses - dont make her number red xd

i cant even remember what does that, i think its dodging after some basics

[peak halo]

after 5basic

[rocky wedge]

oh ye full word is ultima slash

[autumn hound]

oh my dumb ahh understand it now ty

[rocky wedge]

did u play hi3rd ever?

[autumn hound]

me?

[rocky wedge]

yes

[autumn hound]

no

[rocky wedge]

damn cause they have a similar system, but affixes are pretty much like a sub element?

[lament yoke]

#📨・bot-info message

[rocky wedge]

thanks 🛐

[lament yoke]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/1383785490360172584/1424409871683682518/km_fastrun.gif

[autumn hound]

[peak halo]

sniper u only 1 job
score minimum 23812851

[autumn hound]

i've played for 1year but still know nothing abt the game's mechanic

[rocky wedge]

same

[final fog]

Which one?

[peak halo]

its kida okie, cant learn everything just quik

[autumn hound]

pgr

[final fog]

I know but which mechanic?
For example, Qte is confusing to me

Like i still dont get it and there isnt a guide for it in english

[autumn hound]

affix

like what's the different between physical and trueslash

[lament yoke]

[final fog]

I think of it as premium physical tbh lol
Pretened that each affix is a different element

[peak halo]

qte is experiance thingie
its not like things which can be ezly guidied.
only one thing i could say play around ur buffs

[lament yoke]

susge troll

[final fog]

Ok but like if i do it just like in the vids it should do the same dmg right?

[autumn hound]

so it's the same right?,

[final fog]

Assuming same invest of course

[final fog]

No
Treat them as different things

[autumn hound]

but why

[lament yoke]

[final fog]

Cause they're different
Kuro made it that way

[autumn hound]

oh i know

[rocky wedge]

https://tenor.com/view/tsunyash-vstars-vtuber-yandere-anime-gif-8254000498447883430

[karmic anvil]

[autumn hound]

it's like the same damage type but used in a different way, like if u used it as true slash the true slash buff work but if u used it like physical the buff wont work although they're the same element

js 1 element works in 2 different way

[peak halo]

its more like in my eyes 1 element had a sub element.

[sand laurel]

Yes, sorry, I'm a weirdo
as a veteran I shouldn't make any jokes when they're sincerely asking for help

[autumn hound]

then the physical buff should also buff the trueslash damage

ts game suck

idk

[autumn hound]

I read it

but....

[ornate oasis]

Is veronica sig a must pull? Im just tryna save a lot for liv atp

[rocky wedge]

well they may not be even xd

[ornate oasis]

Liv is bout to be peak again

[rocky wedge]

https://tenor.com/view/looney-tunes-cards-bugs-bunny-gif-17667024

[peak halo]

generaly if u tryhard ppl every sig must
if no, then just skip or pull back later

[karmic anvil]

but since you asked in meta help, every sig is—

[ornate oasis]

Aightt saving the sig on liv it is

[autumn hound]

[karmic anvil]

[sand laurel]

I wonder whats the sig priority for all the meta characters rn

[karmic anvil]

[ornate oasis]

I feel liek pyroath and shukra are still the ones who need it most

[peak halo]

idk i get all new one

[sand laurel]

think I could make a list but I'm too washed that I'm sared of causing some misinfo

[ornate oasis]

Since their rotations are heavily affected by it

[karmic anvil]

[peak halo]

pyro not anymore in fire after vera, only plasma
qu is still quing

[unborn hound]

qu is dying

[wintry parcel]

*qu is dead

[peak halo]

[karmic anvil]

steveeeeeee

do you have something like sig priority list🥹

[leaden tinsel]

i hope this is not prediction

[rocky wedge]

lmao that would be funny, tho what does CN have? maybe we all have the same

or jp

[leaden tinsel]

is reset at diff time there

[rocky wedge]

would be interesting if all servers had the same zones

ye taiwan reset like 1hr ago

[peak halo]

should be in the end thats gona be

[leaden tinsel]

4th week ice dark in tw?

[rocky wedge]

no idea even ive seen this so much i dont even know

all i know is dark and ice now

and freaking lightning nanami

🗿

[leaden tinsel]

we also got ignition nanami

[karmic anvil]

atleast not cw weather

[peak halo]

[rocky wedge]

oh ye its not cool

[ornate oasis]

Howww

[rocky wedge]

and im legend so this wont be bad then ig, can actually do a lightning vid

[leaden tinsel]

damn legend whel

[rocky wedge]

f2pbtw

[sand laurel]

@rocky wedge is dante really dead after vero?

[peak halo]

live shound be ice amp or attacker

[ornate oasis]

Funny how we had a new dark dps and phys amp but not a dark tank

[rocky wedge]

all good legend teams too so maybe not too bad

[rocky wedge]

seems like it ye

[sand laurel]

kekw

[peak halo]

[ornate oasis]

Like let karen rest🥀

[sand laurel]

I wonder, I have sss0 dante and vero gonna be only ss0

[rocky wedge]

3s wata seems way better than ss3 dante from cn videos i saw

[ornate oasis]

Good thing I didn’t splurge on dante lols

[peak halo]

thats u now when game eos

[rocky wedge]

and vero very strong, nanami also strong

[sand laurel]

startrail was a mistake, introduce such a strong and selfsufficient char this early into the game

[unborn hound]

wdym how

ice is the worst team rn because of her ass

[rocky wedge]

well vero really strong in ignition, physical is apparently not very strong

[ornate oasis]

Nanami stacks way better than dante

[ornate oasis]

You mean kaleido?

[unborn hound]

how about she stops farting on the toilet everytime she ults and do some damage

[rocky wedge]

i think ss3 nana does similar or better dmg then ss3 dante too

ss0 nanami does less tho for sure

kinda feels like ss0 hanying ngl

her burn stack gen is horrible

[ornate oasis]

Thank god I chose wata for the free selectors

[unborn hound]

don't be suprised when the next ice amp comes kaleido will still be in the team

[rocky wedge]

he can also be used in dark if u dont have invested ss3 or above karen

[chilly glade]

solo wanshi >

[rocky wedge]

not sure if karen works out better in legend or not yet, cant try on this acc but can try ish

[wintry parcel]

No

[unborn hound]

solo wanshi with kal and comrade liv

[chilly glade]

hell yeah

[wintry parcel]

But I still have my groceries priority list in my pocket if that works

[unborn hound]

steve i won

[sand laurel]

we in a point where a-ranks becoming really obsolete

[wintry parcel]

Yes

When a fraud Dante meets pure Burn unit (Veronica)

[unborn hound]

sadge

[sand laurel]

I wonder who's stronger sss0 dante or ss0 vero

[ornate oasis]

I’d say phys is like the most underwhelming team ngl

[karmic anvil]

[rocky wedge]

they have always been

well i mean since the time we had S for all teams

[unborn hound]

member when teddy was better than selena if she wasn't sss

[sand laurel]

the gap is getting bigger that you straight up better run any off element s-rank at any rank

[wintry parcel]

Extaria comparison type shi

[chilly glade]

good question

[wintry parcel]

Why sss vs ss bro

[rocky wedge]

21 was the only useful one really and mostly because lamia was strong at her release

[hazy sandal]

F2P sss dante?

[wintry parcel]

That one is on you, I got no business

[sand laurel]

both of my accounts, f2p and dolphin have sss0 dante/vergil with sigs and cubs

[hazy sandal]

I kneel

[wintry parcel]

What the hell

Massive Whale

[rocky wedge]

ye i think its not realistic to build them and S ranks also now, and the score gap with missing some S ranks is pretty bad so may as well just chill until u get more characters

[karmic anvil]

[sand laurel]

no, I 🛐

[unborn hound]

[rocky wedge]

been like that for a long time tho

[chilly glade]

teach me my goat...

[rocky wedge]

i mean would be nice if they were stronger but ye

discord seems decent tho out of them all

[wintry parcel]

Okay, you should become our guinea pig as testing subject when Veronica actually debuts in global server

[rocky wedge]

it was dazzal all this time

[wintry parcel]

Your research will be important

[rocky wedge]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/emojis/842387273446326293.gif?quality=lossless&name=dalao&size=48

[wintry parcel]

[karmic anvil]

dazzal is casual f2p

[rocky wedge]

yes and he has sss dante

[karmic anvil]

i thought it was extaria and the newbie he adviced to get sss dante

[sand laurel]

just play pgr like your job

[chilly glade]

[rocky wedge]

nice wave 2 bear again man

im going to go destroy something 🤙

[unborn hound]

[rocky wedge]

ok its not that bad actually only 3 bears in the whole zone

[wintry parcel]

Wait what

[rocky wedge]

wuntap

[unborn hound]

wtf

[wintry parcel]

Impossible

Bear population has never been this low

[rocky wedge]

ye pretty insane finally

ive only had the worst zones ever i was really mad seeing that wave 2 bear

[sand laurel]

how when I'm not going for anything higher than ss0 veronica on both?

its not I like ignition gameplay anyways

I'm curious how's ice and dark gonna look like after kaleido an daren replaced

people saying that darkflow was forgotten but what about disruption?

are we actually gonna get some competitive team for it?

disruption shield gimmick alone is kinda boring

[rocky wedge]

damn if im lucky i might get a good bracket

[shy jackal]

do we know what next wz bracket is gonna be

[stray siren]

🐳

[wintry parcel]

Ice and Dark

[stray siren]

And ts

[shy jackal]

again

[wintry parcel]

Yes

[shy jackal]

wtf

no right

wtf

[final fog]

Oh my god wtf

[shy jackal]

wz gonna stay dark/ts/ice for the entire patch

fml

I'm gonna kiwi

[sand laurel]

https://tenor.com/view/phrolova-clapping-phrolova-phrolova-clap-gif-17329258731589079691

[formal radish]

How about we all kiwi together

[steady otter]

Im stealing this gif

[sand laurel]

amazing like phro alone

I wish someone made something like that for liv

[rocky wedge]

nah ofc not no ways im retaining in this server joining so early xD

the last two there will get thicc scores

[sand laurel]

just join at the end of week

[rocky wedge]

no

[nova forum]

Am I trippin or is the right stage of Babel is recycled

[limber yoke]

Everything is recycled

[stray siren]

Fallguys 💀

[thorn bluff]

Does thunderbolt banner only work once?

[wintry parcel]

Yes

[thorn bluff]

Ty

[noble zinc]

【【战双】覆冰单这不就来了，叠骗我们干什么？分数理所当然突破两千万了嘛！-哔哩哔哩】 https://b23.tv/ZeE6SD5
Glacio boss zone wtf

20mil and done

[bitter plank]

wtf seeing the new pin made me realize there are so many rotations

I've been playing this game wrong this whole time /j

[crystal rune]

Finally

https://cdn.discordapp.com/emojis/905710307815604254.gif?size=48&animated=true&name=worrypopcorn

[noble zinc]

Oh wtf it's fake

[wintry parcel]

What the hell

[noble zinc]

[wintry parcel]

Fake boss Glacio

Maybe it was really a myth after all this time

[crystal rune]

What

Bruh

[noble zinc]

[crystal rune]

Glacio shafted again

https://cdn.discordapp.com/emojis/1199423392630190191.gif?size=48&animated=true&name=madgeclap

[noble zinc]

Boss zone galcio or not idk but run had 20waves done

Scoring of 40waves

[crystal rune]

<@&595893856554319873>

[tawdry gazelle]

some real meta help

[formal radish]

How do i bag a girl

[oblique basin]

[formal radish]

Hey metahelp how do i get a gf

[crystal rune]

You don’t

Get a bf instead

[shy jackal]

Exactly

And if you try hard enough they can become a gf

[crystal rune]

Yea that’s what I did

[formal radish]

So Khaled

[crystal rune]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/663533657155305481/1409894672851275877/IMG_4146.gif

[pearl solstice]

Wtf

[opaque ridge]

gif thief

[zinc charm]

chat is it wise i pratically spent 17K bc for selena wedding skin instead of using it for aegis

[quiet lily]

is this even a question

[zinc charm]

it is

ngl do you know why i even pulled the skin, somehow that skin has more lighter effect for my device to handle

beside her skin looks so beautiful how the hell does this one is more bearabale for my device

[quiet lily]

meta dont care abt skin

[zinc charm]

sorry but i gotta pull every unit beacause they look so fricking hot

[clear plinth]

does alisa work as an regular ice amp?

[zinc charm]

smash everyone, no question

[zinc charm]

if you mean using her glacio buff for ice team is not reccomended, her effectiveness of the buff is reduced if its not the same element

and same goes to ice to glacio

[clear plinth]

my ice team just has issues with swap cooldown and my Ayla is rly low invest so i kinda need a last option pick for ice amp lol

[sharp fern]

No
Her buffs are only ice buffs when doing her glacio rotation or when the glacio bar is active

[zinc charm]

why would you even swap her, just make her qte bot

[sharp fern]

So when she's off field and you don't have the glacio stuff active she won't buff ice damage
And you'll be gimping wanshi's damage to do his glacio rotation just to activate alisa's ice buffs

[clear plinth]

i have like 2-3 seconds where i have to wait for wanshi/qu swap cooldown

and it feels awkward to just left click mash for those few seconds

[zinc charm]

extend your rot then

even if theres 2-3 second, its fine to switch to ayla for that seconds, youll switch again the moment other unit's cooldown is down

idk its fine but how low is your ayla, base s?

[clear plinth]

base S 4 star weapon da vinci QTE bot

[quiet lily]

fasten ur qu/wanshi rot and u can just do alisa's glacio rot, its pretty fast. at least its better than S ayla no sig

just hd - d - hb - ult swap

[wintry parcel]

That would be unnecessary

[wintry parcel]

Glacio damage is still going to get 0.3x damage penalty in an Ice stage

So I would argue it isn't any better than Kaleido

[quiet lily]

and u think S ayla can do better damage than 0.3x alisa?

[wintry parcel]

Yes

[quiet lily]

wait, u guys think ayla still does damage?

[cobalt plover]

No but 0.3x alisa is worse

[wintry parcel]

Just swap into Kaleido and spend some signal orbs for her for the lingya cub passive skills so it's not really entirely useless

[cobalt plover]

Get her multipliers and multiply them by 0.3 and compare to ayla with the wz buffs

Dont remember by how much it increases

[zinc charm]

off element is just not preferable

[quiet lily]

how is alisa worse when u can have dv+guin+amp buff

[cobalt plover]

It WILL be better

[cobalt plover]

0.3x

Literally 70% of alisa damage is cut

[quiet lily]

bro who tf cares abt 0.3x dmg

[wintry parcel]

Without a SSS rank Lucid Dreamer, in an optimal ice team rotation it's normal to have a downtime between Lucid Dreamer and Shukra

[quiet lily]

alisa dont even do damage

[clear plinth]

I hope a real ice amplifier comes out soon so i dont have to cringe for like 12 seconds of every wz run

[limber yoke]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/emojis/1181540876795789324.png?quality=lossless&name=OMEGAKEKMAN&size=48

[wintry parcel]

It's not something that's really a bad thing

[limber yoke]

Wait wrong reply

[cobalt plover]

Ayla doesnt
But buffed is better than off element

[limber yoke]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/emojis/1181540876795789324.png?quality=lossless&name=OMEGAKEKMAN&size=48

[zinc charm]

liv new frame trust (she will be dark tank)

[cobalt plover]

If alisa doesnt do damage why not use ayla then?

[wintry parcel]

Does leaped Echo even buff ice element at all?

[clear plinth]

I remember when kalelido was the main dps of ice

[wintry parcel]

It does buff Glacio

[zinc charm]

afaik only buff glacio

[wintry parcel]

But does it also buff ice?

[cobalt plover]

Buff glacio

[wintry parcel]

Really?

[clear plinth]

It says ice dmg in the menu but it might be a translation thing

[zinc charm]

shouldnt it inherently able to buff ice but at cutted effectiveness?

[wintry parcel]

Why would we use Echo in an ice team

[quiet lily]

dv+guin+amp

[clear plinth]

like when you go to menu to view your buffs

it says ice dmg increased

[quiet lily]

his ayla dont even have sig

[wintry parcel]

Bruh

[zinc charm]

4 star weap too

[wintry parcel]

Amplifier class

[quiet lily]

wait why not use ishmael

[wintry parcel]

Is a thing

[quiet lily]

[zinc charm]

@clear plinth have ishmael?

[wintry parcel]

Who the f*ck started Echo on an ice team

[limber yoke]

I think this guy is trolling

[wintry parcel]

That's so weird

[clear plinth]

yah but i have her on a dps build

[quiet lily]

make more build

[zinc charm]

? ishmael can substitue your amp build

[quiet lily]

[zinc charm]

shes meant to have several build

not just dps if your acc is missing a tank or amp

[cobalt plover]

Ayla is an amp too
And you can put dv + guin on her

[quiet lily]

but u cant have ayla 4dv4guin bcs bro dont have sig

[cobalt plover]

Both dont do damage but no damage off element still worse than no damage on element

[cobalt plover]

Well then
Fair enough

[clear plinth]

if the next character is ice amp ill just wait because i dont wanna resource dump for the 6 class skill upgrade rn

[cobalt plover]

I thought it was for someone with sig

[quiet lily]

but ok now forget alisa, use ishmael

[cobalt plover]

Mb then

[zinc charm]

shes quite a good substitute

[quiet lily]

ye if ayla have sig, its def better bcs ayla sig also have ice buff

[zinc charm]

you dont have to ht her other memory, just rng that class skill

[limber yoke]

Ayla cant even proc 4 guin in 1 qte btw

[cobalt plover]

Ye

[clear plinth]

plus if next char is ice amp anyways theyll just be the main dps of ice

[zinc charm]

SSS wanshi :

[cobalt plover]

unless they nerf her for the two shukra mains

Like they did with phys vero

[zinc charm]

liv new frame is dark tank trust

[clear plinth]

My wanshi SS0 also R0 so i cant extend his rotation that much

[zinc charm]

i am still mad they choose to powercreep alisa

[wintry parcel]

You don't have to

[zinc charm]

like PLEASE JUST KILL KAREN WHTY IS SHE STILL STANDING

[wintry parcel]

No

Scire will live

[cobalt plover]

Daren is solon wife apparently

[wintry parcel]

[zinc charm]

soo trie

[cobalt plover]

Someone sent a pic of him with a scire pillow
No idea if its true though

[zinc charm]

its true, i was the pillow

is it good time to SSS epi

[peak halo]

Epitaph?
the best time is now

[zinc charm]

yes my goat unc

just gotta grind those 20k voucher, last patch i choose epi and this patch i choose epi

just missing 26 shard to SSS , i hope this patch can give me that much

[shy jackal]

it buffs ice too, half glacio/ice

frigid zone is hd

[peak halo]

Its should be without bp too

[shy jackal]

so you could use her as ice amp but like

just use ish

if no ish then cope alisa ice then ig

[crystal rune]

[round lake]

[peak halo]

Then i just ishmael it

If i off element i surly demote

[crystal rune]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/emojis/905710307815604254.gif?size=48&animated=true&name=worrypopcorn

Did you download on phone yet

[peak halo]

Why im never thing that unoptimal thing

[peak halo]

No🥀 forgor

[crystal rune]

Another retain week

[peak halo]

No cuz i off element it

[crystal rune]

[quiet lily]

stop being homeless

[crystal rune]

But I thought you said no slacking

https://cdn.discordapp.com/emojis/1199423392630190191.gif?size=48&animated=true&name=madgeclap

[shy jackal]

vergiloff-elementing it

[peak halo]

Thats no slacc cuz i done best which i can do

[crystal rune]

[peak halo]

Ca off element to be sure

[crystal rune]

Ômg df cw all 3 zones

[peak halo]

[shy jackal]

frfr

[peak halo]

Better and better

[crystal rune]

We’re getting 25 merits with this one

[peak halo]

I eat my cap if i get a 75 merits

[grizzled lion]

Who do I pick

[peak halo]

Epitaph

Even u had
U need him sss

[barren plank]

Epitaph is pretty much the only option for 99% of people

[nova forum]

Should I

[peak halo]

Why thing everyone gurl

[nova forum]

[peak halo]

Its for who

[nova forum]

lilith

[crystal rune]

Is this ppc set

https://cdn.discordapp.com/emojis/905710307815604254.gif?size=48&animated=true&name=worrypopcorn

[nova forum]

ye

[peak halo]

For vero
but i guess not that big upgrade on dmg

[crystal rune]

Only if you need it Ig

[peak halo]

Unless u lacc of less than a hp bar dmg

[formal radish]

Is she meta?

[noble zinc]

[quiet lily]

if u dont ht ppc set, do u even call urself a malder?

[formal radish]

I ht 4 sets for vera

[crystal rune]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/emojis/1199423392630190191.gif?size=48&animated=true&name=madgeclap

[quiet lily]

ure not malder, u just downbad

[crimson swan]

i forgor to do ib can i call myself a malder

[noble zinc]

[formal radish]

I am malder now

[quiet lily]

[formal radish]

I became malder just last night

[barren plank]

For my own sake I stopped malding EXPPC cause there's no point to mald anymore

[noble zinc]

[formal radish]

Well I don't mald ppc cause it's ass

[barren plank]

Since I came back to the game I promised myself to save my sanity, I wouldn't mald EXPPC or hero WZ

[formal radish]

Wz better anyway

[barren plank]

Only legend and IB

[formal radish]

I got blocked in hero

[quiet lily]

1tap ppc and mald ib is the way

[formal radish]

#1 and 2 were 22m and 20m

[crimson swan]

one tap both is the way

[quiet lily]

skip both

[crimson swan]

skip wz too

[quiet lily]

skip weeklies

[crimson swan]

skip to the uninstall button

[peak halo]

Kiwi talk

[quiet lily]

its inevitable

[crimson swan]

im bouta join you

[formal radish]

Meta this? That oguri yum is it now not? Mald yes maybe to do now? cm what?

[quiet lily]

its like youre in a relationship with ur partner, the marriage talk are bound to happen

[crimson swan]

just gotta wait for that sss liv sticker

[formal radish]

Will pyroath become qtebot if shes ss3r1 but wata is sss0r2

[peak halo]

I guess u type in the wrong server

[formal radish]

This is meta help no?

[quiet lily]

i dont think so

[peak halo]

U get me
Im here too

[shy jackal]

I don't think 3s wata outdamages pyro but I could be wrong

maybe if you fck your invest and do s+ wata

[formal radish]

I saw a bili vid with him as sundps

[wintry parcel]

Praise the sundps

[shy jackal]

fr

sundps

1 million watas vs the sun, who wins

[formal radish]

Watas would win if they went at night

[shy jackal]

they would win regardless

they no longer fear death

[formal radish]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/emojis/1376179744403619921.webp?size=48&name=NilouWow

[spiral merlin]

did somebody say sundps

https://tenor.com/view/agusta-wuwa-augusta-wuwa-tongue-augusta-tongue-gif-18275216606779066658

[formal radish]

shut up

[crystal rune]

Shut down

[obsidian dune]

does 3s wata outdps ss3 pyro

[spiral merlin]

who is outdps

[formal radish]

I'm in the dps

[obsidian dune]

does 3s wata do more dmg than ss3 pyro

[formal radish]

does he

Let's ask

does 3s wata do more damage than ss3 pyroat

[noble zinc]

I don't see any good runs running wata dps over pyro rn

You try it

me too broke for 3s

[crystal rune]

Broke whel

[quiet lily]

stop being broke

[crystal rune]

@formal radish accept my fr req I need to send you cogs and stickers

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[tribal bluff]

funny, i was coming to ask just this cuz im getting him SSS tomorrow

[peak halo]

Wata is more for the buff (extra shred -3swap cd) than him dps

[pine slate]

Try it urself

[crystal rune]

What if I don’t want to

[pine slate]

If he's better as a dps then u can use an amp

I doubt he will be tho cuz of ss3 pyro qte nuke

[peak halo]

Gurls in my head
Anyone help me

[brave sigil]

i know veronica isnt out yet but how does an SSS echo compare to an SS Veronica?

[crystal rune]

Stop thinking about women and start thinking about men

[peak halo]

[crystal rune]

Vero Better obviously

[peak halo]

No homo

[pine slate]

Vero got crit buff in 2p memory and also ignition

[brave sigil]

ah, i dont know her kit yet

[cold walrus]

You can refer to this run and try to find out is it worth using ss3 pyro or nah https://youtu.be/ZFpssdKXjsQ

[crystal rune]

Ômg powered is back

[pine slate]

What's wz

[stray siren]

Waifu Zimulator

[pine slate]

[robust crown]

Wz weather?

[clever niche]

best memory set for ss bianca

[crystal rune]

Wooooo fire

[clear plinth]

will flux or glacio score higher generally?

[noble zinc]

More mobs yeee

[crystal rune]

Mobs fest

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[noble zinc]

[robust crown]

Fire and plasma?

What is laser aloy