#📨・meta-help
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but with wata you wouldn't swap to him
it would just be 12s back and forth between lilith and bianca
Yeah I could try on whel acc to see if ish is better lmao
oh wait you're talking about fire
But iirc it does have max invest daren but idr
well there's always ways to adjust for every team
with sss wata in fire, swaps are 3s faster but wata himself speeds up his rot, vera's rot stays 10s, lucia's can be adjusted
your orbs being from right to left threw me off a bit 😭 thanks a lot for the vid
my orbs are left to right
Stop gaslighting them grandpa
Put on your glasses and take your meds

Oh wata’s is faster?
also what scores you need for 600k vero? i forgot
Bro goes turbo mode
Ohhhh and I guess pyro doesn’t need to hold basic for as long for eclipse
I don't remember what she does in context of sss wata tbh
lucia can still do 1e all the way
She’s alr been relegated to single eclipse ult right?
1e takes about 9s
There's a wide range of score combinations across the 3 difficulties for that lol
i do 1s1e sometimes still
can you state one
but i have ss3 so i can do so without dlt
ss0 is probably hard relegated to 1e with ga equipped
Idk I get 13/15/18s and get well over 610k
I have ss3 also
I'd say 15/18/25 is where you push the boundary to sub-600k?
But that means u need to do like, red red hold ult, red hold basic, hold ult after eclipse right?
On pyro
why
Fk whel
uhhh that is not how 1s1e works
Do u do the fast ult first?
That's 1e1s you're technically right but he's also technically right
But 1e1s died with vera lol
(unless someone finds it worth using again)
Oh, it’s cuz I had Nanami as fire tank
Nah can be 10s but you need to be quick
But idk how ur supposed to do 1s1e
i'm recording it rq
Also hope that you don't barely miss energy and need to orb and barely end amp time
Make sure to skip the tap basic on entry
I thought you were testing 1e1s 😭
How did he stumble upon the harder rotation instead of this is what I wanna know
Like who directed him to 1e1s instead of the other way around
For present day fire team
the 1s1e can be cut shorter to fit in amp buff or it can be fully extended for dmg
It was specific for Nanami tank
1e you can safely extend fully
Oh lmao interesting
Ohhh I see ok
Kinda reminds me of plasma rot
Are you gonna test ss3 1s1e after leap
no
Or is the energy move too slow
Oh and she doesn’t even need dlt??
i'm already not doing 1s1e very much, it's only applicable in a minority of scenarios
I've seen people use ss0 rotation for 1s1e even on ss3 lucia lol
yes ss3 can do this without dlt
I never knew abt this I thought dlt was always needed on her
And even sss in some cases
Wait, real zexous 
it's still needed for plasma tbf
Is gph doing comeback
Yeah but wasn't one of its biggest limitations the lack of wata shred?
Mayhaps

not really
No that's mambo
She doesn’t need to land after the first ba on swap-in?
when 1s1e was the norm it was wata>lucia so still had full uptime on wata shred
post vera, the wata shred is running out regardless on lucia
no matter which rot you do
Nope that's only for niche rotations/strats that are extremely energy sensitive
nope
U aint fooling me
İ need build help
I double checked office
for a second i though i was in office
Same, thanks im at home in comfy bed
alphonse eins
Resonance?
red / class
Thanks bro what if I want to play as dps 4 alphonse 2 cottie ?
There's Vera and Lucia for DPS though
wata is already the weakest member of the team and your wata doesn't even have sig
i'm sorry bro he aint doin dps
Wata when not even enough blaze orbs 
wait who carries dv then
Oh okay, I'll just boost it as support.
wata normally would if he were sig+harmo
Copium team I'm afraid
but you are poverty so no dv

Welcome back sigless alisa team
Imagine getting wata sig over gera 
btw what reso for dianca
Atk ult
sry, weapon reso
sss and up dlt
below ga
Hmm yes I think I will just stick with 1e
ty
only deviate from it if the situation is right for something else
Like at the end of a run maybe
Isnt it back to atk at sss and up since blue doesnt boost ult 
Since u do only blue in first setup rot, then for rest of run u do reds and ults
I went for atk for sss but idk I just followed what everyone else did😆
you're probably right then

Do u hold blue for every rot under sss?
ss is 1 rot with blue 1 rot without
Ohhh wow that takes so much time
not really
you do the setup for the 2nd rot but leave the energy for next swap
so on next swap you do ult instantly
and then do the blue rot in full
and then do the setup for the next ult
Ss3 qu or ss wata
do you not have wata
No
wata then
But i dont have his sign either
True
Dead next patch 
Alsooo wata’s in voucher shop u can easily ss3
wanna bet? liv not gonna be ice 
What u wanna bet
drip is too ice for her to be ice
here, you can see both ults fit into amp buff window https://streamable.com/7c55pk
Copium
What u wanna bet
Everything points to ice amp not just drip
Ice amp eh
BP 
you said the same thing about me predicting dark tank
Cuz u know, all roads lead to gran soren arisen
i'm gonna laugh so hard when you get a taste of your own medicine
I won't so dw

Now we have gamble in meta help
Liv is gonna be some random element and then glacio
For veronica it made themed sense cuz dragons are big scary physical monsters with little bit of burn 
I cant wait to see whos win
This is literally bianca all over again just more obvious
raydiance 🤮
But from the theme its either ice, lightning or physical, but phys doesn't really do cuz we have veronica at the banner, so its leave us with lightning and ice
And affix ofc gonna be raydiance for my wife
It’s 100% gotta be lightning or ice if she’s an amp (which we know she has to be)
Also how much leap i need for wata
bro why did they have to do a wordplay on an affix title 
Idt they will do lightning + raydiance tho
i mean radiance works lol
So if we think the affix is raydiance it will have to be ice no?
Radiance is hollow knight reference 
Idrk
Pritti much, and make buff only radiance so daughter still lives technically
wakaranai
But if she becomes omega glow stack machine, cw and daughter are getting cooked
Unit that sweeps 3 teams
And when Liv is physical tank then what 
😂😂😂
Wata memory?
Alphonse dv
Class red
is it still this after his leap?
cool
correct?
Correc
@noble zinc 6m i got i miss bath shred twice but dont think it changes breakpoint or maybe on one of them it does but
stopping now
what you guys getting with solo nana i think my score suck there
No slash?
no virgin
How much you have with solo nana?
5m
22.33 122 luna nana lilick with seashel

Ồof seashell
someone in my bracket also 5m with ss0 nana but with her cub which is ig more dmg for ligthning than mine xd

Why not lingya
10% Lightning damage boost
Is that really how it works
well when we had that this zone last time around i tried with and without seashell and seashell lets me atleast have perma weather buff
seeshell only gives 1 orb for every 8 BASIC orbs you gain
that's like 1 orb every 3-4 rots
yeah?
enough to not be on 5b5r after ult and not miss the weather buff if im understanding it correctly
it's going to give you like 4 orbs over the course of the whole run
but its enough
like yeah maybe it means you catch one more rot with weather buff but idk if that outweighs lightning dmg on the entire run
without seashell i couldnt get a run with full weather buff
you definitely can
hmm
and it's not particularly rare either
i malded a whole lot of cw weather when nanami came out
best i could get then was missing the buff only once
i mean
ideally you should be keeping track of which rots you don't even need the weather buff for
use lingya on lilith or sth
since likely there are many waves you kill regardless
then i dont have lingya nana


you don't have an extra copy of lingya?

yea use cw cub

i-i didnt know back then ur supposed to scrap from ore 
I just use Norman ore
they seem to be unlimited
next reset i can scrap motor + 2 cubs from ore and get nana
wtf seashell use light cubwsit I'm trying
what u saying

Bricki cub better 
ok i thiught the edb from it is close enough to light cub but its just 5s it just expires then
@noble zinc btw is wata cub worth backpull
no
blaze orb big dmg?
You spender you can

wdym
like
if i sss is cub worth
wata cub is a big % increase for wata
but wata is a smaller % of the overall team dmg
i see
i mean if you're whel go for it
but if you are someone that has to ration out which cubs they can afford
Im join like 11 pm in my time zone
cuz like after leap blaze orb even more dmg
i wouldn't get wata at this point

u mean cub? hes free from selector
well ill think about it if big brickpoint in next fire

ok but do i even have say in this matter like sounds hard to control
yes i meant the cub
not really?
do you not notice what happens in your run and use that to adjust the next run?
that's malding 101, it's like the basics
i do but i from what im seeing the buff helps me kill wave on every rot and if its possible to have full uptime anyway shouldnt you just try to keep it at all times and pray and not adjust anything then
do you restart as soon as you fail to keep weather up?
no
because sometimes triggering weather can waste time when you dont need it in the first place
the chances that you need the weather for every single rot is astronomically small
no use wasting time + messing up rots tryna trigger weather if you still kill the wave regardless
and don't forget that qte management is a thing too
you can move qtes up or down for certain waves too
oh yeah that
Especially in early waves too
yeah ofc thats what i think i might be doing wrong somewhere
you don't have to stick to a rigid playstyle and force it for every run or else restart
that's just giving yourself way more of a headache than necessary
almost certainly there are some waves in your run that don't need weather, that don't need dv, that you can wait an extra 1s for, etc
i've had multiple weeks in ion wz where lilith casting lingya at a specific time was the difference in a wave being cleared, multiple times in the run

there are so many variables in wz, it's unlikely that weather is dictating your entire run
you can trigger lingya every swap in though no?
emphasis on specific time
doesnt the buff trigger right when you swap out? 
i'm talking about the active bro
The lingya damage?
yeah
the variable was literally casting the active at a specific time to displace the mobs in a specific way
Does it do decent enough damage? Mines lvl1 lol
ouh active dmg
not the dmg just the displacement
Oh displace ic
yeah i notice that a lot in dark with cub timings
well maybe the dmg too idk
ahh mob zone
but i doubt it
yeah that makes sense
yeah mob zone
Piss poor damage, but what Zex is saying is that even that tiny bit of damage could be the difference between clearing the wave or not
i had like two weeks where this was the case on both lilith's first and second swap
if i didn't lingya at a specific time i would be down -1 wave
Interesting
Same issue for me
okay yeah dv isnt really an issue cus it alwasy come back but more the einsteina gloria on the dv user i try to use where i need
is there a way to track the cds of glor ein or i have to keep count in my head
i mean
you can just look at how long your rots are and it's easy to see
gloria is like uhh
12s cd or smth?
eins is 8s
Isnt Gloria cd real time?
or sorry 10s cd 8s up i think
Yes and yes
And yes Im pretty sure
Heard ken say smth bout it last week
idk what real time means but i assume its cd from when it procs
you can basically understand it as you have one use of them per rot
usually nanami will be clearing at minimum two waves per rot
Real time means real life time
so at minimum you can decide, if you don't need those debuffs for the first wave, you can save them on the second
when i check replay nanami rots take between 8~9 seconds
ah now i remember why i never got the answer for gloria
they didn't give gloria a damn status icon
it doesn't show up as a status you can check
Lmfao stupid as devs
lmao yeah i had to check my mems a few times thinking im using wrong set
Also unrealted but
Im not sure if this is a tech or bug or if I was just slow and trash playing Crepuscule before
confirmed eins cd does tick during timestop
we will never know for gloria
well i could find out by testing damage but
ooh nice so its basically always up then to proc
i don't feel like staring at pixels for an hour
But apparently you can 3ping right as the animation is playing and it will cancel it slightly early
i just swap as soon as i get the ding
yeah ive had that too a bunch of times
I usually 3ping so that on next swap in I get immediate ult
Instead of having to stall a little for 3ping > ult
Cause Kuro
im tired boss
it's not really any stalling for 3p since you can cancel it with ult
and doing the 3p on swap in gives you weather buff + triggers ga
Small indie company😂
Didn't consider that actually
plus it makes the swap out even faster since you don't even have to wait for the hold basic animation to finish
like so
isnt there a little delay as well tho on the swap in before you can 3p
very slight but not as bad as that, you should be dodge cancelling
okay so swap dodge 3p ult
is the 3p cancel here slow too? or just the swapin
okay so that part in the clip is correct yeah?
For dianca, when you hold ba after ult, are you supposed to time the release at the point of the red flash or do you release after the flash?
Also ss3 worth?
I have enough tickets to spare one 60 roll
Im almost tempted to go gamba for vera ss3
Save it for veronica
bro why is fushen back lmao
Does she still look like cheap vera in dragon cosplay?
Vero banner not being out yet affect the ppc rotation.
From 10/10 we will get 3 Phys Mob WZ in a row, enjoy your stay
There's no change for her design so ye same
Lament.
these devs are getting lazy 
But yeah is this timing intensive or i should release after I see the flash
lazier* i should say
My cope vergil charging beowulf and getting blasted
Kusogame sent half of their men to WuWa thats why
You have to release just before the red flash
You're being optimistic
It's 7/8 of total employees

The only employee in charge of pgr update is that one janitor
So this is the end
time to 🥝
Liv is gonna be my last hope
If they shaft her, I'd lose every last bit of faith I still have for Kusogame
she needs to be in a tracksuit 
Madorea wasn't buffed in Ultimate PPC, right? Can I still follow Shi-Yori's build from 9 months ago? https://youtu.be/DiuGUx7Tu5c
🎄 MERRY CHRISTMAS TO MY VIEWERS!! 🎄
Builds:
• Test ~ Elite
- Shukra : 4 Ji Bo'an, 2 Cottie, Darwin Harmony
- Kaleido : 2 Gloria, 2 Guinevere, 2 Samantha
- Glory : 2 Einsteina, 4 Da Vinci
• Knight
- Shukra : 4 Ji Bo'an, 4 Chen Jiyuan
- Kaleido : 2 Gloria, 2 Guinevere, 2 Saman...
Moonglaive has a video for it from one day ago but he's not using Shukra, whom I want to build and use
Ye Ice had no change since long
Great, thank you!
I guess but you could also just use Wanshi instead
If you have Wanshi he'd be muccch better
Ice is so dead, you still can use a year old strat (not considering synchronization)
Wild
Really?! Moonglaive's build it is, then.
The fact that Ice still has a boss with 6m HP .... Or 5m idk it's so low doesnt matter
Liv can only replace Ayla(1%) or 21 (1%)
So, there is a 98% chance that Kuro will screw up

not really that wild
ice also had arguably the hardest boss release in recent history cause emperor came out with qu, prior to wanshi
That remind me we didnt get a new boss with Wanshi
Empy Luna flashback
there's a new boss with everyone, just not necessarily of the same element
Shorthalt but it is weak to fire.
F-king thanks god though imagine the amount of people who die from a new Ice boss 
people are probably dying to ephialtes
I had to pilot an account with NO DARK TANK and I can see why they're struggling
ban the pilots 
I think the Emperor is not that hard atp, so new ice boss will be true
The guy even SSS Alisa and Wanshi before Lilith so he has literally nothing against Ephi
We will get a new Ice unit eventually anyway, new Ice boss is inevitable
Emperor is so easy even Wanshi can solo him
the kids dont' know how hard we had it
Bring back bounty missions thx
Bring back manual farming
this will bring back pilots for sure
Back in my days 👴
We'll never feel the same about PPC again
okay grandpa
580K with changyu and Ayla SS0 R0 was an experience
Paint dupe hack
I started taking PPC seriously only two years later, before that I only malded WZ
i didn't have sig ayla
i had to use 5* changyu 5* wanshi hypnos
That was pain
i did not even 580
and 5* bambinata 
Back when gacha was loot boxes
I was too busy trying to retain Hero with Ember
So, no PPC mald, just enough to get 500 skulls for the next character
anyone know how to do the sss bianca red orb weaving tech
I watched the vids and still dont get it
whether you use q* as dps or wanshi depends on your full team invest
No u
q* is faster than wanshi if you can kill with hold dodge ult

Well, at that time WZ I feel it was easier, since malders were really few, and many people believed that you still needed to be whale SSS to retain hero
the hard part was promoting that time 
I was just a monthly player, but I watched sNazz's videos recommended by my sensei 
WZ was so hard back then
yes, promoting to legend was hard before legend was there 
why is lightning scoring so low i usually get 6m

It depends, it could be the fluctuation level
it's cuz it's affix zone no?
no?
The order of enemies in waves
laser alloy is not affix
being in the entropic zone doesn't affect scoring
oh I thought this was lightning/TS

Skill issue as Zex says
it is lightning/ts
are the buffs the same?
oh for some reason I thought u got penalized for not playing the affix lol
nah its skill issue confirmed
the entire point of entropic zone is you get to pick
however it is possible for the weathers to overlap
have u tried spending 30k bc more on nanami?
Oof
like if you have lightning/ion

yea like fire/ignition was insane for ignition team
your ion score will actually be inflated

but there's no reason for lightning to be lower than "normal"
ahh okok
Had to sss bianca so i couldnt 
good choice

Based
Peanka > Nanamid
both weathers are active at the same time right? or u choose one or the other.. for some reason i can't remember rn lmao
How should I build Qu: Shukra for Warzone?
meanwhile my midanca 
below sss kinda brainded
Below SSS is Midanca 
u kinda pay to mald on her
wtf henry 
she always midanca, useless 
It should be fun for players with SSS bianca
every char below sss is mid
kuro loves u
can't even do ppc faster than lilick, such a waste of virtual space
SSS is human invest
Whale-help
well this is the case for most characters


wish i still have interest in playing the game
ehhh a lot of S ranks are pretty braindead
no like
Wait did u kiwi too?
it is the case for most characters that getting them to SSS means you have to mald more
because you unlock more techs
ohh u didnt know? ye i did 
look at geiravor and lilith for example
nothing else to chase
yeah but I would say Bianca is a rather dramatic case
she plays like a pretty diff character
Remind me of a dude I know
already reach 1% everything, retained legend until hero badge deleted. theres nothing else to do
just thinking of Selena, Geiravor, Lilith (our last 3 releases)
Like Selena SS0 vs Selena SSS, the gameplay is simply different characters
She's still lv1 since her release
i aint even got her weapon
tbf tho I think the biggest change is at SS3
Truly based lover/hater
and then yeah ig at SSS u get to click the blue orb
but u still can't fit flower+orch into amp buff so😭
but did you retain legend with just a total of 50k score?
no? then you still have something to do 
I met a player on TW, all his characters SSS, but he skipped Wata
The hatred must have been immense
kamui dark tank

but that's based tho
it's so based to be worse for no reason yes
which character should i choose from the s rank selector
If Kamui is Dark Tank, and i was still playing, I would just skip
truly an inspiration to brick your ice score with no discernible explanation
i already have qu shukra
Qukra pisses me off
and watanabe
So wata
get more qu 
Ahh
ss3 qu op
if qu pisses you off it's certified skill issue i'm sorry
u were saying her SSS changes her alot? @carmine reef
it does
interesting
I hate her orb rng and I hate that she gets staggered in her hold basic animation
that's literally it lol
the orb rng is barely anything, it's mostly skill issue
getting staggered is also skill issue
compounded with Wanshi being kinda buggy sometimes, feels like a lot of my ice runs get reset for things out of my control
i'm not trying to be toxic but i'm being genuine
Her rng orb is only during the first rotation
the orb rng is 90% skill issue and the staggering is 100% skill issue
why bring up reasons to hate q*? there is no need for that, hating her is just the right move in all situations 
u dont know how unlucky I've been
it's not about being unlucky
this week I haven't had to reset at all and Im done w ice now
if you run into orb issues anytime other than the first rot of the run
get sss, get immunity to stagger 
it means you messed up
but previous weeks I've had it where her orbs just didn't work out in the first rot like 4 times in a row
simple as that
bzzzzzt
cuz I thought like, Gen 2 and later kuro just eliminated the orb rng problem?
and even then it's very unlikely to mess up in the 1st rot because you can still get away with 3+2
Qu probably won't die anytime soon, and Qu on base S is unplayable, so, you could get another copy of her to make her SS instantly
Or
Get another copy of Wata to make him SS/SS3 and get it to SSS more easily
introduce the problem, sell the solution 
who said gen 2 eliminated orb rng
is that one of the things u get
idk cuz I was not here for the entirety of gen 2
Thats gen 3
nah its just her rights to use 4 cottie, kinda makes sense
I went straight from alpha to selena pianissimo bro
i already have watanabe ss and i can get ss qu from the the phatom shop. What about scire?
anyone who never malded 9x red orb cw ult kills or 3-4 stack bonkerina kills
(I came back in Ishy patch)
bro asking scire question to queso 
anyone who never played lamia in their life

also true
Scire requires a lot of investment, SS3 + 2 resos just to get 500K points more than Ishmael
so many orb rng for gen2, too lazy to list em all 
ohh was gen 2 introduction of TLC then
yes
Look, generations in my opinion do not exist
Should i go Cottie on both Bianca and Lilith if they're both SSS?
yes
with not having tlc HAHA
I'm understanding this history now
that's so funny. poor lee
pgr history class
he has timestop on ult2
PGR story, new university class
it makes sense not to give timestop on ult1
12 credits
his ult1 is giga
otherwise you could do his entire rotation in like 3 seconds
so... like ish? 
why were sm ppl saying he was poop for not having tlc then
ish is the queen of tlc spam
lee got robbed
in beta, tlc was in ult1
isnt her entire rot like ~4s anyways
in beta it had it but like
that's really not his issue
the issue is that he can't multirot
that's the core of hyper's problem
oh core cd ye
the stuck with 1 rot is the real bricc, ye
we got lee replacement before we get daren replacement
is this SS3 i dont know a lot about evolution?
imagine being stuck w him for that long tho
fire team scores would be so low rn
stuck w daren is the same
actually with geiravor maybe not
I mean, check what happens when we don't have cooldown on core in that buff farm event
he becomes an actual firegod, and not just a meme 
yes
Yes
slacc wz this week?
I dont use her so i wouldnt know😆
daren needs to die yesterday
should i invest more in his evolution or is this enought?
thank you
I was so convinced vero was gonna save us from her
depends who else you have and at what invest
but no, phys amp
pleb bonkerina haters on the rise again 
it is good to raise wata up but there are lots of other people to raise up too
suddenly we replace echo over daren again
probably. didn't open wz yet 
i would say wanshi and lilith to sss first before wata
i have ss geiraver
next patch there gonna be new coating on daren trust
If I already have everyone on the selector, who is the best SS3?
wata over qu i guess
Are you a spender or F2P?
If you are a spender, you can SSShim via vouchers with one or two BPS
If you are F2P, Qu might be a better option since she is not in voucher shop
alrrr
slop content
get more weapon reso
i am F2P i do have a lot of voucher who should spend it on?
Oh yeah, should i go 5 Bianca + Lilith 22 rotation or 5 Bianca + Lilith 22522 rotation? Kinda doubting i could fit in the second Lilith rotation. 
I think Wata is a good choice since he is SS3 already, then Lilith and then wait to see if there is a new free unit soon
kk thanks
Np
new players be like: "wait, you can fit thousands of lilith rotations in one warzone run?"
zaza moment
any paticular boss you have trouble with?
Like Gwyn or Ephi?
who are they?
I've seen accounts so ass because they have no Dark tank and SSS Lilith would have solved all that issue
send huaxu
what's the best selena rotation at ss for ppc? tryna to get 600k on fu shen
cope with sss wata
that acc also has no Wata SSS
i only have lilith and bianca for dark team
that depends on your full phy team investment
I recently learned i could fit in 5 Bianca Ults in the Amp buff, so here i am. 
I've played acc so unimaginably bad to yall
it shows daren placing
Daren wont die anytime soon as much as I hate to say it 

ye I'd say you should SSS Lilith first tbh
you can zaza your way through
low invest Dark + no Dark tank is a great way to torture yourself against Dark bosses
got it. Is bianca ss necessary?
ss0 selena with sign with glorious afterglow
ss0 alisa with sign no resonance
ss0 hanying no sign
ofcourse, its baseline invest
but Lilith first, at SSS she's a main DPS for Dark
biancas 5 star weapon is okay right?
you don't even use Midanca against Dark bosses if Lilith is SSS 
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7xwGNMJloLM
can probably use this as reference then
Chapters:
00:00 Intro
00:04 Fushen Builds
00:08 Fushen Knight
00:43 Fushen Chaos
01:16 Fushen Hell
01:52 Mado Builds
01:57 Mado Knight
02:25 Madok Chaos
02:57 Mado Hell
03:37 Vero Builds
03:42 Vero Knight
04:16 Vero Chaos
04:54 Vero Hell
06:11 Total score
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although you having hanying will give you more dmg, so adjust the rota if needed for faster kills
thanks a lot oniichan




which cub is worth getting?

lingya
who is lingya?
that's an A rank CUB u can get free from CUB selector
anyway for S CUB u should grab Wanshi and Nanami CUB
Nanami first totally not biased

finally got Wata SSS
so what's his rotation now?
since he can get upto 6 stacks and all
Same as before he just does it a lot faster
so what swap in ult
hold dodge red orb
3 blaze
bullet
1 blaze
ult?
what kinda rot is this
am just asking if there are any faster way or if the normal wasy is all taht
that's not correct in any universe
neither before nor after
get 3 blazes and then do parry>blaze so you can cast 4 blaze in one go
Just do 3 blaze orb so you can use signature move right away
no point doing 3 into instant ult
His job is really just that
im pretty sure he cant really do that pre SSS if you dont already have 2 blaze orb available
but ok yeah this + the leap allow hold dodge into 4 blaze orbs to be a thing
Did you know that a matrix cast will give you a blaze orb unconditionally?
no point doing 3 because, at ss it's too fast and vera will have to wait to swap to lucia,
and at sss, you could do 4 for maximum ult dmg with like an extra 0.5s
Who should I pick guy?
Epitaph dupe
Okay thx.
Unless you already have like SSS rank Epitaph somehow
epitath dupe get him to SSS if you can
though you can try SS3 Qu first idk how much that worth though
Not worth it
I think even if you have SSS rank Epitaph, getting Echo or even Scire dupe to get SSS rank faster would be more worth it than getting SS3 rank Shukra
I think nabe is overrated
Why?
btw do you just ult as fast as possible or do you let the last animation of the blaze orb come out?
let it play out
the big blast at the end
You do Epitaph rotation as fast you can play it out without holding the next character swap in
I alreadi have him
i was gonna say u already s+ him 
that's not what im asking
Okay i picked nabe. Now what
it is what you're asking
I mean it technically related to how you would play him out in the end
enjoy shards ig
if you've done everything perfectly you can let it play out because otherwise you'd be waiting on vera anyway
if you don't think you did everything perfectly then ult faster
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Who?
What do i do with shards?
Is SS3 Bianca good enough?
buy others shards 
I don't have qu but i can't even afford vera sig and bianca sig
good enough for what

jesus christ
Pain cage and warframe

Actually i use 30 for 2s3 selena
just wata enjoyer 
are you a biblical beast or what
No im brick
ok with SSS the swap get reduced
do you still do 1 fast ult 1 full ult for Lucia or do you only do 1 full ult now?
feel like SSS Wata kinda change how it play a bit
even before you got sss wata you should've been doing 1 ult on lucia
unless sss lucia
bruh i was following Spider 2b's guide
Just one full ult
spider 2 brick

you have to know that rotations get adjusted when the team changes
so now Vera still doing 4 dv 4 guin?
1s1e was the norm for lucia when she came out because that team was with empy
that switched to 1e with vera because vera became main dps
what memory should be for SSS Wata now? Vera is in SS0
2 diff strat and gameplay
Vera dps or dvc holder
Lucia already feel hella scuff with Cottie on idk how no cottie Lucia would even play like
bro been playing his fire handicapped this whole time
you can keep lucia on cottie
there are dv lucia options but you can also keep her on cottie
ok so what's the set for the fire team now
like no more roundabout talk
wata would be 4alph 4dv and vera 4shakes 4cot
that's what we've been doing for months
Pyraoth goes 4Hera 2Cottie 2Eins
Actually fair she has an excess of orbs
not about the orbs
it's cause why have eins on the qte that's nuking the wave and likely killing it
lmao
i haev SS3 (early dupe) no dlt
ss3 doesn't need dlt anyway
Hmm that's also true
This is why I am fraud, Im only here coz I see ref I copy
ss0 doesn't need dlt either if you only plan on doing 1e which is the norm now, but with ss3 you can even flex to 1s1e situationally and it still won't need dlt
so what Lucia run freaking dv or do fire team just not use dv?
.
Pyroath would just go 4Cottie?
that's what i'm doing with ss3 lucia
Or am I also restarted now
the firegod have descend
wym? i don't see extaria here
I don't see extaria
oh wait i forgor



i was looking through spider 2b and also grayraven site
i didnt know how different the meta in this server is
spider2b and GR are for casuals
GR isn't even for casuals it's just straight up wrong half the time
that's what happens when you beef with all the theorycrafters and then tell your team they can't use any of those theorycrafters' information
Misinfo2B
GR's fall is actually sad
so do you run ult level up on Vera now instead of class level up?
Yes signature move reso
yes
Atk top reso
wait so now what do you start with Lucia
then Wata then Vera now?
Can someone help me with ss3 wanshi wz solo rot?
u have DLT for him?
I'll get it later, i spent the usb on Lilith and hanying
in that case, you only spam his drone ult
the hold atk one
with DLT u can sneak in some bullet ult
Spam drone ult
How tu
6 pings > hold red > hold atk > ult
2x3p, hold red, hold atk, ult at 30 stacks and repeat
U can watch wz runs of it on yt
There's so little
you won't get to reach 30 if you're doing straight drone ult but yeah
Huh?
drone ult generates max of 24 stacks and consumes them upon the final cast
so you won't be reaching 30

0:00 Build
0:17 Gameplay
#punishinggrayraven #パニグレ
Also do red + dodge after every drone ult
Or was it dodge + red I forgot
dodge red once
I found myself having orb issue without DLT sometimes so dodge red twice might help a bit

That's sss no?
if you have ish, dont mind levelling her up
They have no qu

I don't
sadge
I regret skipping her so bad. At that time i was demotivated to play pgr
i like bambi gameplay
just Luna zaza bro
Then Luna + Lilith
No luna
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Bambi gameplay In wz
next selector would be up to Luna, trust

In our fcking dreams
Nezt selector up to qu again
Fr

fr fr
So, Wanshi A 4 DV 2 Einsteina
And any amplifier with 4 Guinevere 4 Samantha/ 2 Samantha 2 Gloria

She's free
whoops forgot to include SSS too

just let her die
She's chopped
Also hypnos sss is better than kaleido without sig for solo runs
idk i don't even use ayla and my ice is doing fine
MY SENSEII !!! DAZZALLL !! THE BEAUTY QUEEN
Oh you're awake

in game sensei
Idk who dazzal is
Bro be multitasking
his is so unlucky to have me as his student kekw cause i have huge skiill issue

no , i m single tasking, i m just not doing the work i should do
i might watch some anime later
and drink some cola and snaks
@noble zinc bro dark score low for u?
sensei !! gimme some good guide for ss0 bianca ss3 lilith rotation
i m stuck at 4m on hero
You good bro? You sound like a lap dog rn.
No offense
#punishinggrayravenglobal #dark #bianca #crepuscule #pgrwarzone #legendwarzone #pgrgameplay #pgr_cn #lilith #ishmael
i don't even know what does lap dog mean to get offended

meh i just have skill issue than cause i do the same rotation kekw
A weak person who is controlled by someone else
No offense
who is controlling me tho
Just need speed
If u want u can 232 on Lilith instead of 242, it's faster and usually the same
I'm pretty sure you know who
Teaching or not
wait since when we are doing 242?? i thought it was 4,2,2

i don't know who
i mean yes i used to do 2,3,3,2 on lilith only dps plays
but since bianca came all guides i have seen do 4,2
and 2 then switch
Watch top score wz runs, don't watch guides
yes yes i have
Blue orb resonance? Why?
even this one doing 3, 2
and others runs also do 4,2 from the start
though i personally have done only 2,4
bcs i get lower score by following their 4,2 run
@pine slate https://youtu.be/Ffm_7DyeitY?si=aJm1my_OmTjlcQWY
This is how I have done it before
skip 30 seconds
and don't ask why i have bianca r3
Looks whel
yea i m free to play whel
Dark looks low for me
He said it's better
||on hero||
How much u got
7.1m
Me on 5.6m legend, 1 tap tho
So... Do i change it now?
Idk? Do u have excess resources to spend?
he's new, probably not
Like.. blue coin to gamble?










