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<@&595893856554319873> it's eeeloon muck
Wait is Vera legit leader in fire if Lucia is SS3?
If Geiravor is the main Dps, even at SS0 rank you can put her leader skill for the team already
Oh mines just on dv gui
What’s new liv element?
If you have her signature weapon and you can give her 1 weapon resonance skill, you can make her a dps with a new set
We don't know yet
Also… is veronica a good boost for ignition and physical wz scores? Or should i just stick to my sss echo for physical and solo sss nanami for ignition?
Gotta save some bc for new liv
Kinda broke after sss bianca 🤣
She will boost your ignition score massively compared to just solo dps Startrail
Damn it. Here we go again. My wallets cries
And put Wata on something like dv ein?
Wata is SS3 vera is only SS0
Both R1
whats Luna's build for this team?
I need milk
#pgr #pgr_cn #퍼니싱 #퍼니싱그레이레이븐 #분쟁 #Veronica #warzone

You no need words to explain
dv glo eins, but
you know mado is ice weak, right
you're in a ppc stage
in warzone she could hold her dps set but in ppc it's just ish
and like i said, mado is weak to ice, so you shouldn't really be using this team regardless
Ofc
gb lao can you give me a simple rot to one tap this
fk maybe it is glacio now that i look at the units
selena is just kinda ass at gb in general
i kinda just wouldn't use her
lamia is actually goated at gb, wanshi is pretty good too
i haven't tried bianca but i imagine she's not that good
ok i just spam wanshi then ty
even trial?

solo nana solo wanshi for 3 weeks 
Solo nanami is fun

Nuuh
Solo nanami is pure rng and future sight seeing
Meaning if u ping wrong orb = reset
rotate with your 3s bonca
yh
i dont have shukra ok 💔
king he's underinvested
majority of my ice team do
i haven't actually used qu as dps in ppc in over half a year
idk how you define underinvested but it's possibly still better than using ish
mado is quite squishy after all
Wanshi > Qu any days
mado means testicle in my language hehe

fair enough but like
thats the current state my wanshi is in
yeesh
then buff him up
yeaaaa i think i just wont do mado
why do you even enter UPPC if you're so unprepared
it's actually a valid team if he uses ish dps for 7s kill 
skull and black card
like can you imagine not beating Mado out of all things
1.1m Advance PPC = 1.55m UPPC in term of skulls
somehow i feel the people asking what luna does are not the same people doing ish speed kills
well to be fair i could try with another team but the time is eh
ye, he can't do that with that ish, prolly only ss0 
but he needs to do mado to get skulls for wanshi 
who should I pick on the selector if I'm a monthly pass spender? (I have watanabe alr)

im broke 🥀 but ill try
you already knew the answer
what's your real reason for asking
i have an extra 111 skulls rn but i dont wanna use it since. veronica.
Pilot my acc
I dont wanna do that again
duh, just making surr

did you do the outliers

It just so painful
yes like months ago
what is it actually 
Ban the pilots! 
I only did 7s knight so far, never had time to mald 7s chaos, but will finally be able to do this week if nothing comes up 
7s hell is kick kill
Very tight
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chaos is kick kill for me too 
hell I can't do, nut enuff dmg
eh ill find a way, im gonna play around with my wanshi to see what works best for me
600
per second and I'm willing to forget my creed for a day 
han pilots
My acc is possible rank 1
If, i can 7s hell mado
Last time i smash my keyboard
I smash my monitor for sure in this week

on the bright side, that's the only thing to mald this week, all the others are slacc 1-2 taps 
she's that old smh I need to let the thought go
7s 
me no haxer
I could only ever do 10 seconds
You’re also a liar
for whatever

download moar speed, ez 
@. 1234. hidden haxer 
so um


Disgusting strat

I cant do that for 2nd time
Pilot pls
pilot him and save 12s 
good idea



surely not 222 333

sasuga haxor

Charge your phone 
Raw tranzlate
Should I make the observer icon white? (ie, would it be easier to see or are y'all good)
both white and black would be hard to see ngl
Should I just use another symbol
I would make something similar like I have with TS or burn but the problem is that since there's already a lot ofvariations like that, it might end up looking to wonky or uneasy to look at
can add note like if someones underinvested then you can use ish to replace them
Yea I was gonna add that note next to the highest scoring team note in the bottom left key
And use the observer class icon as the legend marker for that
what if you make the background dark and text white 
Make your eyes bleed
I mean I guess i could make the text lightish gray instead
But pure white hurts my eyeballs to look at when it's jet black
the key is proper contrast
if it's too big, of course it will be eye killer
can someone help me with ss pyroath rotation? my team is ss pyroath, ss geiravor, and ss ishmael
yeah just like a night mode setting not straight up white/black
when does agis drop and do we start getting triple rewards this week?
we had 3x rewards last week already 
you sure? I got 1k last week for weeklies I think?
No we got 3x since last week
ye, me sure, last week we got 3x
Update dropped 19th and last week Monday was 22nd
We already had 3x
where are the separator lines? change the color of those otherwise they are invisible
Is that because of the discord compression or is it actually this low
Yea that's what off about it
It's fine on my end
fine here 
Ye fine for me
when i download its fine but zoom in on disc is messed up
if you wanna see the full image, click on the "open in browser" button
discord's own zoom feature is giga bricc
it can't even properly display the image on 100% size, it always enlarges it, no matter what size the image is
you just too oldge to see the blur 
Ok I fixed the borders
What color should I make the observer icon to make it more noticable?
like for glow? i think the panel is just too bright there as 6 said need to have more contrast
Very deep darker purple colour with a thick white outline
A white outline example
In general
i mean rn it looks bad only in glow to me atleast
Also whose memory is this
Oh I couldn’t even see it in glow
Vero
That's hers?
Yah
ye, phy + burn
her name is stated there


She's not even here yet
She’s technically already in game
she is in the chatacters section just not unlockable
it legit says it


Omg +20% crit dmg
You mean 40
i remember last time you could play lilith week before her release in tundra, maybe vero there too xd
Comper to echo
Sss lilith or sss wanshi?
Lilith
Difference was Lilith wasnt in beta when the update was released
Echo only boosts 20?
Yes
they usually stop updating the old roguelikes with new characters
If this not missinfo
It’s naut
I didn't even know echo also boost crit dmg

Reading memory kit smh
the old ones no but tundra yes
bianca there but vero not just checked
um idk i rolled only at start S chars dont remember if thete even A ranks in tundra
okay lmao just now i noticed the observer icon over daren feral ayla i though you referring to element icons

i see what the concern is now
ish can go in the slots with the observer icon?
3690
yes and yes
does pyroath build change? and should vera be leader even at ss0 (my pyroath is ss3)
Pyro can either use 4cot or 2cot 2eins instead
And for leader it depends
and would wata want dv
Yes 4sig 4dv
ok i'll harmonize ein for pyroath, i assume wata's reso doesn't change? red + class
Yep still red class
should i keep him on his cub or should he run lingya?
woah i just read the vera leader 10%atk full team 5%fire vera does sound worse than 10%fire whole team 10%atk pyro but idk
Needs lingya
It’s kinda like a bonca Lilith situation
ah shi
dont tell me i malded with wrong leader
many such cases
Nah depends on breakpoints
i always put leader on bigger dmg dealer never thought about it
but yeah makes sense
to help the weaker unit finish off the wave
are all amps atk leader
ok nvm i'll just read the leader from now on before going in ty for insight
me no empy
ugh i can't fix vera's build tonight
What the hell happened
me when i wake up
Surprisingly true
Also Discord Ultima Slash build is actually 4 Patton and 2 Catherine
With Solacetune as the main dps
Cottie on her feels so weird to use
Do I need Deadline Timing resonance for Cottie set?
That's so wasteful
investing on Discord is already wasteful in the first place
from what I saw, Discord TS solo can actually reach 5m assuming you have Sig R1
that's like... same score as Lightning Nana solo
what does the nana solo rot look like
Bla bla
6 pings, Yellow, BA, hold BA, Ult
Its that easy
It's just like her usual rotation but repeats all over until the stage ends
i don't wanna play phys in copeslash weather
Took me a whole damn 2 hours to finally reach 10m
its ez if you don't have her cub and run seashell 
shoot does lilith need to be on bathlon for that
oh well i can't get any more today anyways
whats the full invest here
S+ Nana
SSS Lilith
Luna zaza
s+ 
How else are u gonna reach 10m Lightning 
Aren’t you a fk whel
No nanami already holding heisen
im goldfish
Is ur Bianca S+ or something
wheelchair invest is real🥹
did khaled tell you ice scores yet
Its all zaza 
Clearing waves 5 upto pain
Double qte with qu hit it
The bear f-ked up half of my runs
Either it lived with 5% HP or it straight up staggered my unit as soon as it appeared
whose ice score?just woke up so no idea what you talking abt
khaled's qu with sig
ok nvm glow is ass
wasnt it 5.8?
damn im ass
can just log into his acc and check if you want
sure
yeah he seems online ig
no bianca? 
still in debt from s+ nana i see

daren.
full s+ light team next year
damn i am ass
562w is my two tap 

est and snazzlao
(its okay you're atleast doing fine i guess)


whats my next prio weapon that isn't veronicas? I'm guessing either nanaknight or wanshi
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Ofc Nanami
U screw up the timing for perfect hold BA most likely
i try to find the red blink cant even see it
Yeah you can get Startrail weapon
can i just show it to you?
Best thing to do is going to training mode and getting a feeling for it
I usually hold basic for 1-2 seconds then release
can watch me live this thing and show me where i still havent see it
Ok maybe 2 seconds is too much
hold on i record it
Well even if u show it we can't really tell u when u should release it

Wata on team is this cause of his shred field
darenless
No ishmael?
i do have her on 2.3
Why not her then
mainly for wz using wata cause of the -3s
azuri zaza here too
it always comes back to zaza
Idk how effective that would be
What is a "pgr"
But if it's better then yeah go i guess
Cannabis
is he a filipino or something
Hi son

Isnt he your nephew
You mean nephew
Zexous is my deadbeat dad
I'll disown you soon anyway dw
But he's better than my real dad atleast I get to talk to him
Man nvm I won't disown this poor child
oh wow
BYYYE 😭
He bought me a gaming mouse for my birthday

I used it for 4 years so thank you dad
Omg the one I stole?
The razer basilisk v2
Oops sry I stole that didn't know it meant something to u
Rip bozo ig
I don't use it anymore
Btw is that wanshi in your pfp
Honestly it pretty much is
Maybe
What does that even mean 
The danbooru tag says it's roland but the official twitter post implies its wanshi and the art itself looks like wanshi
Sleepy Roland
"this kind of pairing is uncommon"
I wouldn't say roland and lamia being an uncommon pair
Eepy boi
Wanshi and Lamia definitely is
Eeeeep
In what world is this roland
Okay unc I already heard it from fabio
Ykw I lowkey see it
You don't need to talk about it
wanshi so pretty
Yes
Lovely sleepy boi
What's a "mambo"
Mamboobs
Mambot
Wut Lilith stacks per swap on SSS tank
Need Dr Wanshi to cure my headache 😔
i wake, i launch discord, literaly the first thing i see : "mamboobs"
what the hell
Daren doesn't have cd reduction lol

only here for the name
I'm using Nanami or Watata
Don't worry that's directed at me and not the horse
wat horse ?
Yes watatas tatas are huge
Probably still same same since ish/daren usually has to fill downtime
With bonka or just back and forth swap?
U use the same rot, no change at all
With Bonka 
Allegedly
Then idk I'm afraid 
With Daren, u swap her in and do one rot
With Wata/Nana they just don't enter the field
Same downtime in the end
Gawd damn. Getting her for the big oppai
wtf i'm in t99 on ult ppc
Zexous jumpscare
leave me alone this is big for me
i won't, haven't done plasma yet xdd
Aight noted 
3s bonca siege rot
No
3s cw instead 
can i just use the one you shared?
uhh homeless cw so i cant
Just spam 3x3p and hold ba 


Copeflow 
do not ask for that
I can see Glow being usable sooner than Copeflow
complete but 
if it has to compete against plasma, glacio and TS, it's just gonna end up scoring lower
is it actually worse than glow with just bianca
Its worse than Glow
TSUBRICKIIIIIIIIII
A team with 1 unit 
@noble zinc https://b23.tv/qCuq3on i looked a bit 232 fire seems like its still 1/1/2 rots
i love swapping off of lilith and instantly seeing red numbers
god save us all

God is dead
alpha killed him
that's off-element too
since there's no content for them
now imagine full sss darkflow vs full sss glacio off-element
even plasma + solo nanami burn

for comparison how much would 333 glacio take to kill
likely below 35 sec
depends if you're gonna do double hold dodge on selena
could go lower
just leap cw again fk it
I can prob just look up on IB leaderboard
there's always people who off-element in IB using glacio

what's the rotation for SSS Qu?
Damn...
needs more optimizing but i'll take it, one thing i can say is that having sss3 wanshi or above would solve a lot of problems i encountered with this run.
Weather : Abrupt Blizzard
SSS0 Shukra 4 Ji Bo'an 4 Cottie (6 atk, 6 ult)
SSS0 Lucid Dreamer 4 Liston 4 Chen Jiyuan (6 atk, 6 ult)
SSS0 Kaleido 4 Davinci 2 Guin 2 Eins (6 class)
SS Huiyu
SS Sn...
Double rotation with 3 stack + hold basic
tech me pls
Bbg 
wait what?
I guess hero is too overkill and slow for nanami
bears in wave 30-31 too tanky for selena
Legend Bears, the bane of my existence

damn, hero scores are brick
no physical nor glacio
Physicope
mf are spamming us with the same elements every week
3 weeks of dark + ice this shit’s so ass
My nihil team is rotting ever since I got the ish sig
got ish sig to have her on 4dv for 3 weeks

Is ss3 solacetune, and ss3 oblivion good? I just got both from blue banner
solacetune is good for TS
and smoother physical rotation
ss3 luna is meh
TS?
ultimaslash
Ultima slash affix
Ah, the affix I have no idea how to do
What's wanshi ss3 main dps build and harmony
Honestly idt it's worth it unless you pulled DMC
I think that might be enough?
Other ppl here can prob help better with the rot
Or youtube
Do you know what’s the new rot? Selena and Alisa Veronica (will be) both ss0
In legend w33 is 7.8m on dark on eu
Dangerous maid
1st rot: rrry >green > ult1 > 3-blue > 2 ult > hold ult > yellow > swap out
Just wait until Oct 10th
People are going to cook
Phys about to be so amazing
i wish i had your optimism
Surely
Same
Phys made me hate 2 elite warzone
Why?
At least we aren't on fkn Balter Alisa anymore
3 new chars
balter alisa was kind of peak phys era though
back when we didn't have shetass hanying who bricks the run if you breathe wrong
and balter main dps actually had a lot of flexibility
you'd rather go back to rigor era?
it was a fun team
Rosetta is iconic
Physical before Echo was just raw dogging everything
CRIT MAAAAAAAALD
wasn't fun fishing for crits
I was noob before echo anyway so I didn't know what crit malding was
it's okay
No I'm not
you're still here in time to be float malding
I need to mald harder I still don't get this game
i don't need to say that part out loud
Even better. What's Malding?
The definition
Grinding wz I think
float is the other layer of rng in phys dmg
Grinding
Oh hell nah
Yes
dude
Surely not floating point integers
All phys units do
Not enough. Pull out the Oxford Dictionary for the full definition
Ok nvm phys is dog
Stability as I like to call it
Thats why Phys is bricked by default
We should kill Physical
Grinding endlessly with reckless abandon, doing this can cause unnecessary stress, "balding". Malding is also another term for it.
I don't think we have those
Most consistent gotta be Lightning Nanami solo
crit is already one layer of rng to phys dmg
even if you crit, the actual damage that is added by the critical hit is a floating point multiplier between 0.95x-1.05x
Solo nana has one rotation lol
that is float
Glacio most consistent because it barely appeared
Almost same score everytime from what I feel 
Trust
the actual answer is that ion is the most consistent tbh
as long as you're in legend
Except for that one week
Fraudlacio
Oppa
Yes son
if you're in hero it's the opposite of consistent because sneezing a different direction is the difference between a wave clearing or not
I'm gonna demote unless my account gets an intervention
Imagine getting one zone per month
Did we get glacio this month?
fire is also pretty consistent
Trash Slash has the same issue with Phys on steroid
Zaza peak
lmfao i wanna have whatever the guy that thought of this did
Why tf is it called zaza
zaza is weed
I know but why is Luna Lilith wheelchair called zaza
Its something only people who's high can come up with
zaza is anything that is unconventional
Guess the term just randomly caught on?
Last day without sss wata 
What should I put here?👀
Damn Kusogame gatekeeping us from the last pull
Ye
2 Eins instead of 2 Heisen if you don't have her Sig
And go with Atk +15(any variant) top, Sig move bottom
Where do u find wz records hmm
I have a weapon 6
Legend Warzone (Level 80 - 120) between 2025-09-29 and 2025-10-05 on the Asia-Pacific server of Punishing: Gray Raven. There are 770 players in this difficulty level.
2 Piece Heisen is better for dps
Legend/Hero
Oh I'm way below t100 xdd
I always prefer shred, go with other teams too
thx🙏
Just let the other characters bring it
Or u wanna know an unorthodox way
Cottie
21/ish can hold it yeah
Anyone else can use eins though
Is this ok or should I change it?😅
Keep it
They won't have permanent shred in WZ though
I don't think you'll have it even with eins
U could try double QTE Eins for 2 waves but its annoying
deep breath
DON'T PUT EINS ON YOUR MAIN DPS
Isn't eins on a cd
TRUST ZEXOUS
Yeah
ARE YOU PROUD OF ME
Low downtime but still
This isn't even possible
If he said so it must be true
it's high downtime if you consider the fact that the waves are dying
Oh right lol
it actually is technically possible but only with certain units
on most modern units it is not possible
the last unit i remember that could do it was empy
Also, u have DLT on Nana Sig?
I don't understand these terms can you translate it for me lol..I'm still learning these terms.
Deadline Timing
I assume no, then
Dead Line Timing weapon resonance
I highly doubt he even has her signature weapon with that level
He said he has it I think
sig men weapon 6?
Lucky newbies
6* weapon
correct؟؟
Yeah 6 star weapon
Alright now Resonance it with Deadline Timing
And Harmonize it with Heisen
Okay now try to play Clash Reflection
If you haven't spent it, I hope
:clueless:
what this
Surely you haven't used it for someone like CW right 
who is Harmon
Important gamemode
I've spent so much mats on harmo recently
You'll need the resources from that gamemode in the future eventually
Changing them around
Yes I got them
oh
Good, now u can Harmonize Nanami Sig weapon and give it Heisen
I will try
It'll count as 2 memory pieces
Which means you'll have 4 Herchell 4 Heisen, her best build
Just take your time
It's pretty difficult for a new player
Missing out on some rewards isn't a bad thing
Is there a video explaining how to do it because I don't think I will know how to do it in chat only?😅😅💔
As long as you simply weren't lazy to do them
Keep going until stage 10, quit, try again until stage 10 and done
1k5 point for rewards
Click your Startrail weapon and find the Harmony menu
You should be able to find it
Just press the weapon and you will see Harmonize option
Brother info dump alldat when he doesn't even know what's Harmony
My English is weak
Sometimes you say names that I think are somewhere else
It's fine, don't worry too much about it

Thank you ..I'm trying to translate everything but oh my god sometimes the translation doesn't show anything right..I had to ask again. Or a video to understand everything😅😅
Just take your time to understand most if not all of it
It's a game, you're meant to have fun with it
@round lake @wintry parcel
Thank you guys, I will work on everything you told me.
Yes I enjoy..Thx,😁😁
Well, hope I can help somewhat
Have fun, Nanami can carry you all early contents
I thought we are meant to bald for big number

Yes she very strong
I watched the video..But I didn't fully understand so I tried just one thing.
The strongest
Well if you already have a job

You're technically already bald for a big (paycheck) number
No need to mald everywhere in that case
You think the number is big...

Anything greater than 0 is big to be honest
Big enough to live
1
Hyperreal damage is big
Debatable 
FINNALY DID 5ULT 
Is 2 ein really so important that pyroath would rather sacrifice 4 cottie to have it?
With main dps vera
15% shred is always big
Silly question how do I know which it is
It's an honor that fraud like her has a chance to do something to benefit the team
1 enemy per zone is boss
when you click on the zone check the text in bottom right corner
its in the wz thing they tell u how many enemies per round
tbh i only recently started paying attention to it and the mobs/boss hp i just mashed buttons before that
Wait I get it ein has less value in mob zone bc the waves die but in boss/duo it's fine
the waves die at the same pace
eins has less value in mob zone because it's less reliable that eins actually hits all the enemies
if you miss even one mob with the qte, and they stay alive while everyone else dies, and you have to waste further time just to kill that one mob off, then it's essentially the same time loss as if you didn't have eins at all
Oh hi zex
Been a while
hi
its the real zexous that everyone talks about 
zaratu almost hit 40m tho 
Just realised for wz, it's the same element for 3 weeks straight 
They really slacc
Wolfie will be happy seeing this ahahaha
Why don't you say hi yo me
hi yo me
Im biu h xjwnd strairs 


I'm talking to nergi
Don't worry yukino I love you

But Im biu h xjwnd strairs 



Dead after 1 patch, cinema
nahh full 2s team 8 mil wtf
xD lmao
its from my fat paycheck
can pls refund me dante
hopefully all ss0
this is kuro scam
He did say 
Also guys, I endorse fate pull

TF is this
u play ice?
One tapped 7.1

so sss wata is prob better than ss vera for 22 nana vero
Ye swap cd
wata becoming the new nana
My goat
He did say
frfr
trueing
kiwiing
rydling 

now I just need vergil dead
Wont happen for more, cuz hes fully paid
While dentge is free
3s dante not dead tho 
Copium
Dentge fully deadeg
Shut up whel
send nuke
U guys just copium cuz u listened to new gen firegod
Dw hes not dead in one very specific scenario in ppc
how do u go from 70k to 27k 
Should have listened to me and pull only virgin
so is dante gonna play with you guys? 
Im going to play with dante
what you get for investing in old males instead of cute daugthers
With me no
I mean virgin took 27k smthingbc I got 75k+ still
oo
nudewhel
is ok, youre still my f2p. fk all this heaters man
heaters
Heaters

Heating
heaters can heat
heat what
i wanna heat my body with nuke 
both

Only virgin pulled tho
Dante other I'd I play 
why you killed a virgin? what did they do to u?
wanshi runs 4 cottie 4 chen for ppc nuke right?
no
New zaza
4 liston 4 cottie?
2cottie for glacio speed ult rarely only

Mostly Liston chen better follow ppc balders for optimal runs
whel
Can Hire the person above you 



Did nuke win sigless qu battle

lmao
Cub less run while mine still 5.2
What am i missing

Show the drama pls
No drama go sleep
it was friendly battle
nuke is a booly
they were slandering the matrix when you can clearly see the orbs so less
Maybe should finish my seashell run 

No attack and orb pain


wher condelina
wanshi cant hit his ult nuke faster than at 7 sec right?
what is this 1000 fr

want me to get rid of qu cub?
seashell better than qu cub?
i got 888 for mado too much skill issue to get 7 sec 
should have prolly used shukra for knight shukra nuke is faster
whel score
is worth to reso qu weapon using cw wepn?
cw is technically more meta relevant than qu
hi whats better for ayla 2pc ein or guin? wanshi got liston and chen (gonna put them on shukra)
rlly
Ooh I alr have enough for ss3 Veronica
they're both pretty whatever but cw is technically in 2 teams and qu is in 1
my cw ss0 
Maybe I can pull the selena skin
situational
eins is better mathematically but you might prefer guin in mobs wz
or you might prefer guin in really squishy wz
Got it thanks!!
next week phys?
is vero gonna be in voucher shop from launch?
phys dark ice 
(not prediction, im just hoping)
damn tw ice popping, 2.03.03 112 S cubs
this hero also, legend could be higher i think
When did you move to tw 
Can I equip 3 different copies of Lingya to 3 people in my team?
Yes

Emphasis on "technically"









my 27k bc can't go trashed so soon




