#📨・meta-help
rocky wedge
barren plank
cyan talon
bianca build? shes ss0 sigless
barren plank
4Jeanne 2Cottie
remote fossil
Chiko-cradle-veronica
rigid dust
If Dante SSS is better than SS Pyroath, shouldn’t that also be the case for Vergil SSS vs Selena?.
spiral merlin
dont think cradle and veronica can be in the same rotation
barren plank
They can't
cyan talon
bianca top and bot mem reso?
barren plank
atk ult
remote fossil
If Dante SSS is better than SS Pyroath, shouldn’t that also be the case for Verg...
Phys just a different breed and selena still better
Dont put phys on the same bracket
rigid dust
Phys just a different breed and selena still better
Why and how though? What makes it different? Id really like to understand, how is it that an SSS Vergil can’t outclass an SS Selena? I mean, it's SSS vs SS.
remote fossil
https://vt.tiktok.com/ZSDa9BfVh/
Since when we have guide on tiktok or is this just because it is bianca?
frigid moth
If Dante SSS is better than SS Pyroath, shouldn’t that also be the case for Verg...
Absolutely not
SSS Vergil buffs mainly buff ultima slash over his physical
SS3 Selena massively hyperbuffs physical
Making her the better pick of the 2
At SS0 the score gap is atleast pretty minimal
But once both are SS3+ Selena significantly outscales
Since unlike Scamroath Selena's SS3 actually does something
Even Bianca has a better SS3 than Scamroath
rocky wedge
its not a scam for fire
frigid moth
I'd rather run double amp than pyroath for fire
frank kindle
rocky wedge
i wonder why xd
barren plank
Here we go again
rocky wedge
If Dante SSS is better than SS Pyroath, shouldn’t that also be the case for Verg...
why is because kuro developed this game, simple
rocky wedge
he isnt saying its good to do that
he probably doesnt like her since dante also doesnt like her
azure barn
Take that agenda somewhere else then 
rocky wedge
i have one towards karen for like 2 years or something now, i still know when to say where she is better lmao
because again, better to give people the reality then some delusion made in my head
wont ever change the fact she is complete garbage that definitely is true
frigid moth
Nah better to hyperinvest into Geira than to invest into pyro
rocky wedge
but she is the only garbage for dark so it is what it is
rocky wedge
Nah better to hyperinvest into Geira than to invest into pyro <:lulw:84238474326...
that is just plain dumb if its not a joke Dx
frigid moth
that is just plain dumb if its not a joke Dx
Nah ik she's solid at SS0
I just regret investing into her SS3 and coating Dx
Could of used that for SSS startrail funds
rocky wedge
that aint the characters fault
frigid moth
ik I just remember when people glazed her SS3 like it was the greatest thing since sliced bread
barren plank
ik I just remember when people glazed her SS3 like it was the greatest thing sin...
The meta changes and her SS3 ended up aging very poorly
rocky wedge
i dont really remember many people doing that except if they didnt know what they were talking about
barren plank
It was broken at the time
azure barn
It was until Rydle did his thing
still moat
extaria doesnt understand that concept
rocky wedge
some had bias since it was lulu
still moat
it was the best ss3 when she was released
frigid moth
it was the best ss3 when she was released
Didn't last long 😭
rocky wedge
also cant remember if there was much info on the diffs since back then also dv vera was a thing too
still moat
and ?
azure barn
It was until Rydle did his thing
Or I guess until Nuke put out his SS0 Plasma rotation
obsidian dune
The meta changes and her SS3 ended up aging very poorly
when empy was still meta pyro get more onfield time
barren plank
A lot more
still moat
how does it not aging well denies the fact that ss3 lucia was massive on release
azure barn
when empy was still meta pyro get more onfield time
Yeh it made her SS3 way more useful
frigid moth
when empy was still meta pyro get more onfield time
this, now she doesn't need that field time with geira
still moat
is that concept so hard to understand extaria
azure barn
Now SS3 is just pure dmg in Fire
rocky wedge
thats why i love this gacha xd
still moat
by the silence im assuming it is hard for u
frigid moth
by the silence im assuming it is hard for u
I'm eating pizza rn
obsidian dune
frigid moth
Can't type and eat at the same time
still moat
i can
frigid moth
thats why i love this gacha xd
f2ps truly eating the best 💀
rocky wedge
her ss3 also would have more impact if u used her instead of dante
rocky wedge
unless he is higher than sss0 idk past that
frigid moth
her ss3 also would have more impact if u used her instead of dante
Doesn't she lose amp buff tho?
rocky wedge
no wtf??
remote fossil
U can fit within amp buff
obsidian dune
1e 
rocky wedge
she does one ult rot how is that possible
frigid moth
she does one ult rot how is that possible
Did you not see the video I sent 😭
ebon adder
with sss its 1s1e right?
azure barn
with sss its 1s1e right?
Yes
remote fossil
Ye
wet tusk
what the hell is 1s1e?
rocky wedge
Did you not see the video I sent 😭
which one
frigid moth
How do I do more damage with her in 1 ult 😭
azure barn
what the hell is 1s1e?
1 Slash 1 Eclipse
obsidian dune
with sss its 1s1e right?
also lost to lilith sig at max pity 
leaden tinsel
maybe
frigid moth
Also are people 3 ulting with Dante?
rocky wedge
the one immediately up where I'm comparing them
ping it there is like 20 billion videos
leaden tinsel
ill try without dlt this feels like it gives enough orbs
obsidian dune
azure barn
Also are people 3 ulting with Dante?
Huh he's way too slow for that
frigid moth
ping it there is like 20 billion videos
How do I do that?
rocky wedge
i dont want to watch the wrong one
azure barn
Heck he's way too slow for 2 Ults 💀
ebon adder
also lost to lilith sig at max pity <:deal:1358976213791674529>
now im running ss3 sigless bianca
wet tusk
dante lowkey too slow for 3 rot
rocky wedge
just search ur name if u posed it and reply to it with fullstop
and search has:video
obsidian dune
now im running ss3 sigless bianca
frigid moth
Heck he's way too slow for 2 Ults 💀
Sin inferno -> final judgement rot -> red ping -> hold yellow -> sin inferno
azure barn
now im running ss3 sigless bianca
Damn bro is stuck in 1 Ult rot
rocky wedge
or @ me idk if its the same one from this channel
frigid moth
You lose crazy damage trying to do 2 final judgement rots
azure barn
Sin inferno -> final judgement rot -> red ping -> hold yellow -> sin inferno
You're doing .5 rots on him?
rocky wedge
this one?
obsidian dune
sin inferno?
obsidian dune
frigid moth
sin inferno?
His hold ult
slate gull
:wat_you_say_ni:
frigid moth
Red hot night buffs the damage
obsidian dune
that does like no dmg
ebon adder
Damn bro is stuck in 1 Ult rot
all cause kuso doesnt want to put bianca weapon in topup voucher shop in a 3x patch
frigid moth
that does like no dmg
I thought so too until I labbed it more
obsidian dune
and u also need cottie for that
rocky wedge
comparison? u arent serious right?
obsidian dune
might as well do 1 rot with 2x2p fire mem
rocky wedge
this is no comparison to me
frigid moth
and u also need cottie for that
Yeah no dante in general just need 4pc cottie 😭
remote fossil
all cause kuso doesnt want to put bianca weapon in topup voucher shop in a 3x pa...
They forgot
rocky wedge
lucia doesnt even do that at all in fire Oo
frigid moth
lucia doesnt even do that at all in fire Oo
I'm talking about ppc
rocky wedge
she only slashes at the end of the run, wata finishes with a swap in + ult
frigid moth
she only slashes at the end of the run, wata finishes with a swap in + ult
That's what I do for warzone but it's too long to show here
ebon adder
They forgot
obsidian dune
Yeah no dante in general just need 4pc cottie 😭
well yea maybe when teammates not sss
frigid moth
I don't got nitro 😭
obsidian dune
but i pretty much dont use 4 cottie
rocky wedge
That's what I do for warzone but it's too long to show here
streamable exists, youtube exists
frigid moth
streamable exists, youtube exists
Fair
rocky wedge
youtube literally allows u to upload like insane amounts of video for free
barren plank
I started doing that when my IB vids got too long
drifting dragon
is karenina scire still worth getting in the spinning selector? i do have ishmael. if not which should i get ss3 qu or ss3 unc watanabe?
remote fossil
Just ss3 wata
slate gull
is karenina scire still worth getting in the spinning selector? i do have ishmae...
ss3 unc
rocky wedge
no forget karen
still moat
not worth, use ishmael get wata
frigid moth
youtube literally allows u to upload like insane amounts of video for free
Best I did with pyroath was 6.7m last fire warzone, I'm doing it right if I'm going for her tap ult right?
drifting dragon
thank you!
frigid moth
I do the slash at the end of rot into wata ult rot
rocky wedge
that sounds very wrong
frigid moth
I can stream the run in discord with pyro so you can help me out with it if possible
azure barn
Best I did with pyroath was 6.7m last fire warzone, I'm doing it right if I'm go...
What's ur invest with that run
frigid moth
I want the best possible comparison after all
rocky wedge
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vYeCQPyT5qo&t=35s actually try to match this with dante xD i dont think its even possible since he is a slug
frigid moth
What's ur invest with that run
SS3 R1 Pyro, SS0 Geira R3, SS3 Wata R1
rocky wedge
and this is the peak fire rot with wata using his cub
frigid moth
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vYeCQPyT5qo&t=35s actually try to match this wit...
SS3 Geira 👀
frigid moth
and this is the peak fire rot with wata using his cub
WAIT THAT WORKS
I don't need lingya? 
rocky wedge
show me ur dante can replicate this
tho if sss is faster than ss then maybe he can
but if not i doubt it xd its super time sensitive
and lulu is faster in fire than dante
frigid moth
but if not i doubt it xd its super time sensitive
Hold up I have an easy way to test that
still moat
SS3 Geira 👀
classic extaria excuse
obsidian dune
rocky wedge
well this is more mechanical since i really dont think dante can do this rotation xd
he is too slow
frigid moth
classic extaria excuse
I mean I got pretty close to it I think 4 blaze would of been enough to kill final wave so my ult connects with wata on the following at the end
rocky wedge
he can do the normal fire rot but this one should be too much
but good luck trying to replicate it, probably one of the hardest strats if not thee
frigid moth
Maybe I can red hot night into sin inferno with matrix
still moat
I mean I got pretty close to it I think 4 blaze would of been enough to kill fin...
excuses excuses 🤡
frigid moth
And have my wata eat field time? nah the damage would be lower
rocky wedge
the score of the video doesnt matter, but ye see if dante can do this cause im pretty sure he cant if he plays similar at ss and sss
obsidian dune
the score of the video doesnt matter, but ye see if dante can do this cause im p...
its exact same
gameplay wise
obsidian dune
sand laurel
kinda funny seeing lilith being in current ppc and also being in outlier
stray siren
stray siren
kinda funny seeing lilith being in current ppc and also being in outlier
Technically his split personality has been separated
frigid moth
Only problem with Dante is you want to start with geira or wata over him since his first rot is his weakest
All subsequent rots get hella buffed however
rocky wedge
u start with vera over lucia as well
still moat
he wouldnt know that
rocky wedge
wata start is must
frigid moth
wata start is must
Is that what I've been doing wrong 👀
I'm gonna try that next fire
spiral merlin
does that change with wata leap tho 
frigid moth
I don't think so
rocky wedge
well he has off field fire shred, ss vera has no qte reset so u have to if u want wave progression
still moat
does anyone care about what u think extaria
frigid moth
Leap just makes him better and SSS easier to obtain
spiral merlin
i dont remember if his qte field has a condition
frigid moth
does anyone care about what u think extaria
No
still moat
it doesnt
rocky wedge
i dont remember if his qte field has a condition
ult
spiral merlin
ah
rocky wedge
oh i think azriel answered that then
spiral merlin
rocky wedge
ye i should sleep its very late gnite xD
frigid moth
i dont remember if his qte field has a condition
That's actually why I don't run alphonse in ppc with him
spiral merlin
i do because i dont care enough abt ppc to change mems
still moat
damn extaria is so clueless man
spiral merlin
frigid moth
I make builds like they're drugs 
still moat
nobody uses alphonse on wata in ppc he thinks he is the first guy to found this
frigid moth
nobody uses alphonse on wata in ppc he thinks he is the first guy to found this
No I'm like patrick
still moat
no ur a clown
rocky wedge
i use alponse on wata in ppc 🥹 gnite
spiral merlin
thats why ur lao
frigid moth
i use alponse on wata in ppc 🥹 gnite
I mean hey if you're fast enough to get the shred field out it doesn't matter much ❤️
acoustic wigeon
i use alponse on wata in ppc 🥹 gnite
I too use that because I can't be bothered to build a new set of memories
frigid moth
I too use that because I can't be bothered to build a new set of memories
Honestly fair
I just make a preset I slap on anyone that is the qte bot role
still moat
Can we not waste time clowning now?
who is we
arent u the one wasting everyone's time
oblique basin
what's wrong with U , seriously
hollow storm
Ignore me I finally found it
formal radish
slate gull
why so serious
leaden tinsel
ok no dlt with seashell is doable solo wanshi but ill move back to dark
from 3m to 4.3m learning the solo tech good enough xd
frigid moth
from 3m to 4.3m learning the solo tech good enough xd
And that's without his CUB 👀
Nice!
formal radish
Damn
shy jackal
u start with vera over lucia as well
would this be the same if 3s pyro?
frigid moth
would this be the same if 3s pyro?
I would assume so?
I don't have SSS pyro to test with tho
leaden tinsel
ok so i see what he's doing, i'll try it, but i thought when you prep lilith ult and he doesnt seem to ping yellow after that doesnt get weather buff? is it worth sacking the weather buff for amp buff? or maybe just works out better with the waves idk
or does the weather buff duration stay from last swap
rocky wedge
ok so i see what he's doing, i'll try it, but i thought when you prep lilith ult...
oh right he said he did that because of shred field timing
but ye i gotta go to sleep now or imma be dedge xd nite 3rd times the charm
frigid moth
but ye i gotta go to sleep now or imma be dedge xd nite 3rd times the charm
Have a good night!
formal radish
Bad night.
frigid moth
Sorry about earlier 😅
I'm gonna do some test runs for fire and find a way to upload them here
Or if available just stream them in server so I have real time feedback
obsidian dune
Bad night.
normal sierra
nobody uses alphonse on wata in ppc he thinks he is the first guy to found this
but I used it on him today 
https://youtu.be/d_LQG4ZQl8Y
remote fossil
would this be the same if 3s pyro?
Dunno, ive just started with pyro now, guess gonna try with vera as starter back later (the last one i did when she still hold dv)
formal radish
Omg henry joe
I miss him so much i wonder where he is now
I still hear his voice
normal sierra
spiral merlin
I still hear his voice
its like hes with us now
obsidian dune
but I used it on him today <:BombiCry:1029550296277459065>
https://youtu.be/d_L...
wata cooking now
barren plank
but I used it on him today <:BombiCry:1029550296277459065>
https://youtu.be/d_L...
Uncle still rocking
still moat
but I used it on him today <:BombiCry:1029550296277459065>
https://youtu.be/d_L...
do it pre leap
frank kindle
hollow steppe
Is 3s echo better than ss Veronica?
formal radish
No
cobalt prawn
Omfg Nanami only cleared 11 waves in TS zone
formal radish
In terms of buffs they should be equal but Veronica just does way more dmg
cobalt prawn
Sm1 send me the ss0 ts rot
hollow steppe
i see thanks
outer spear
ishmael or 21? dont have karen tank for bianca
formal radish
ishmael or 21? dont have karen tank for bianca
Ishamel
Using 4dv 4sothoth if bianca is using 4bathlon
outer spear
Using 4dv 4sothoth if bianca is using 4bathlon
thanks
normal sierra
do it pre leap
easily possible even pre-leap, same rota as here
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eRcn_Es2Km4
I just never had fire team or bonkerina free before to do it
hollow steppe
Who has more dmge output 3s Lilith or 2s Bianca?
formal radish
my goat ISNT washed?
formal radish
Who has more dmge output 3s Lilith or 2s Bianca?
Lilith
frank kindle
normal sierra
but midnica is still far away
hollow steppe
Won't she be released next week or next 2 weeks?
normal sierra
it is ~3 weeks, at 10/10
still moat
easily possible even pre-leap, same rota as here
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v...
what does he run on hell gwyn
formal radish
Oh yay im not that stoopid
hollow steppe
Oh nc
formal radish
Thank u ghost of henry joe
hollow steppe
Still have plenty time to get some bc
normal sierra
what does he run on hell gwyn
both runs use same mem sets on all 3 members
wata on alphonse+shake
vera on 4 guine+2 sam + 2 einst
bonk on 4 dv + 2 gloria + 2 lantern
frigid moth
easily possible even pre-leap, same rota as here
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v...
Wat how does scire work here?
still moat
both runs use same mem sets on all 3 members
wata on alphonse+shake
vera on 4 gu...
who is killing the 30M HP boss here
normal sierra
Wat how does scire work here?
sss passive = 5% edr shred = more grandpa dmg
frigid moth
sss passive = 5% edr shred = more grandpa dmg
Oh I see that's good to know
normal sierra
what does he run on hell gwyn
ohh, you meant hell lul
still moat
but thats what i said
normal sierra
but thats what i said
ye, he qte there
frank kindle
Cute uncle
formal radish
You're so qte
frank kindle
crude wing
frank kindle
formal radish
How is it being born in the 1900's
How was your youth papa
Did you have an emo phase
frank kindle
I currently dyed my hair black
normal sierra
How is it being born in the 1900's
it's great 
frank kindle
To hide the grey hair
normal sierra
don't hide it, be proud of it 
frank kindle
Thing is it was making my hair color like wood ashen
normal sierra
he just jelly cuz he still can't drink legally
frank kindle
Like very dull brown, almost non saturated
formal radish
U just jelly i get to enjoy my youth
Not having to wirk
Not having to pay bills
When all you needed to do for school was study
normal sierra
you enjoy gachas not your youth 
frank kindle
U jelly u cant whale on games
formal radish
you enjoy gachas not your youth <:KareninaSlap:706607412605353984>
I have a colorful life outside pgr and umamusume smh
formal radish
U jelly u cant whale on games <:EvilLiv:976915741888626738>
Atleast I don't have sunk cost fallacy
median spade
<@170020874890510336> how did 4ult learning go
i still can’t do the dodge tech version but didn’t have much time to practice this morning
the other one is still okay though
frank kindle
Basically u gotta do somehow 3 dodges before u hold ba in dodge tech
So 3 in setup normally with 1 after ult
So when u do 2 with dodge on subsequent u technically do 2nd and 3rd
And it repeats
river nymph
nathan 
frank kindle
Just gotta make sure to 3p after ba
Anyways i prefer easy way cuz in no hell id fit 5 ults into amp window
normal sierra
frank kindle
leaden tinsel
i'm this close off finishing the run with bianca ult
whats the input for ish on her 3rd swap in and onwards
i think im a bit slow there
blue ult 1 yellow dash red red dash ult2?
brave sigil
is bianca crep good for ppc or is it still lilith hyper carry
pine slate
is bianca crep good for ppc or is it still lilith hyper carry
Lilith
tranquil bramble
leaden tinsel
<:EvilLiv:976915741888626738>
no
brave sigil
tranquil bramble
no
I feel like making a poor decision
That I will absolutely regret later on down the line when I need weapon resos
pine slate
tranquil bramble
Posted it here to disappoint someone but they're not here rn so
wind hemlock
Anyone got Bianca rotation for ppc Lilith?
barren plank
I STILL GOT IT
brave sigil
brisk pelican
Does wz/ppc plasma buff increase bianca dmg?
celest drum
Can't get 340k+ on skych, selena ain't doing much damage, this was a very laggy run because of the screen recording but even if I don't record the bloom ult gets him down to 13-14 bars. Unlike the guide videos where he almost dies.
frigid moth
I STILL GOT IT
Running Selena for physical?
barren plank
Running Selena for physical?
Glacio bruteforce
frigid moth
SS3 or SSS?
barren plank
If you have higher ranked selena u can get lower time
Im forced to do echo rot at the beginning of the fight to kill
pine slate
How do I get 18s on ignition ib
limber yoke
Whel sss dante
frigid moth
233 213 111
What's the rot order?
pine slate
I'm stuck on 20s
barren plank
Is ur Selena SS or SS3
frigid moth
SS3
barren plank
Just swap to wanshi to fill the glacio gague then swap to selena
You may not even have to double dodge
But then again test it out urself
tribal bluff
if Crepuscule is running bathlon, what does daren run?
frigid moth
35 seconds is best I can do rn running glacio build on selena definitely feel like I'm missing something
icy otter
What kind of time can glacio get at 222
frigid moth
31 seconds now
wise jasper
if bianca use x4 bathlon, what will scire use ?
pine slate
Dv Gloria eins
barren plank
if bianca use x4 bathlon, what will scire use ?
DV Eins Gloria
wise jasper
got it, txx
frigid moth
btw what does the rot look like since that's so fast 😭
deft rock
Is jeanne bathlon still better than jeanne cottie for ppc?
pine slate
Is jeanne bathlon still better than jeanne cottie for ppc?
U don't use bianca on ppc unless boss is very tanky
cobalt prawn
or ur lilith is very weak
formal radish
When is daily reset
crude wing
In 30 minutes
formal radish
So it 1pm now ...
crude wing
Sure Filipino boy
hazy sandal
Peenoise
light basin
simple question who's the leader in ice? wanshi is ss3 and qu is ss0
rain anchor
is it worth backpulling qu sig?
frigid moth
is it worth backpulling qu sig?
If you have her I guess go for it
rain anchor
i will get her from selector
frigid moth
Might as well have her on field atleast
frigid moth
i will get her from selector
HOW 👀
rain anchor
wym how
frigid moth
Like from last selector?
chilly glade
light basin
current one
rain anchor
i havent gotten it
frigid moth
Oh mb
I missread that Dx
Idk if it's even worth getting Qu atp
Solo wanshi scores well enough as is
rain anchor
well theres no one else to get lol my wata already ss3
shy jackal
get another copy of wata to save 24k vouchers of shards
barren plank
just wata again
What rank is your wata and how many vouchers do u have
Also are u a spender or not
wintry parcel
is it worth backpulling qu sig?
I mean if you think you already secured the majority of the important Character including their signature weapon, I would personally try that before considering more characters dupe
wintry parcel
is getting qu ss3 worth it or
Not worth it
Either get more epitaph shard or just save up your vouchers
light basin
alr bought both tiers
barren plank
Either get more epitaph shard or just save up your vouchers
It could be worth it if he’s willing to manually pump vouchers in for wata SSS
rough brook
how strong SS3 bianca compared to SS0 one?
barren plank
alr bought both tiers
1 time?
light basin
yeah just once
wintry parcel
how strong SS3 bianca compared to SS0 one?
It's a good upgrade
barren plank
how strong SS3 bianca compared to SS0 one?
Decent upgrade but I wouldn’t go out of my way for it
wintry parcel
It's not really something game changer or broken upgrade
rough brook
oh i thought it gonna be like lucia ss3 or selena ss3
crude wing
lucia ss3 is pretty bad
barren plank
Nah her SS3 is mid in comparison
crude wing
back then it was good
wintry parcel
Honestly at this point, the main concern of a Character SS3 rank upgrade is nothing but affix purposes
I don't see much SS3 rank upgrade that's actually straight up game breaking besides affix purposes
hollow cosmos
Pyroath SS3 iz just for plasma to do more ult rot
barren plank
I don't see much SS3 rank upgrade that's actually straight up game breaking besi...
Selena’s SS3 is much bigger for phys than glacio if anything
crude wing
even then SS3 lucia does SS0 rot without 3S nanaknight
hollow cosmos
SS3 Lucia plasma rot is different from SS0 rot
wintry parcel
It just aged terribly
If only Geiravor didn't out damage her performance as a fire attacker
That ss3 rank upgrade probably going to last longer
hollow cosmos
Amplifiers be outdamaging Attackers lately
barren plank
On the flip side Geiravor’s SS3 is kinda sht
10% heal buff and makes her ult2 do more damage
frigid moth
10% heal buff and makes her ult2 do more damage
not even her ult 2 💀
frigid moth
Buffs her core
barren plank
Lemme retead
light basin
should i try trueslash wz with glaciation or just phys
frigid moth
so besides the buff it's like a +6000% damage per rot 💀
Still better than SS3 pyro
Which buffs aura blast
barren plank
Her core isnt doing all that just, most of the damage is coming from her ult
pine slate
Ss3 pyro felt mid even before vera tho
barren plank
Not a great SS3 compared to others
barren plank
Ss3 pyro felt mid even before vera tho
In fire yea
frigid moth
Not a great SS3 compared to others
Ik but still better than pyroath
barren plank
Ion is still a night and day difference
frigid moth
Startrail best SS3 easily
barren plank
Nanami rules the world
frigid moth
Ion is still a night and day difference
Is it SS0 rot is better?
pine slate
Is it SS0 rot is better?
Depends
barren plank
Being able to 5slash consistently feels nice
pine slate
Ss3 rot swaps in 4 times, ss0 swaps in 5 times
hollow cosmos
Just do lightning instead of slash
im probably js bad at utilizing WZ weather with Nanami solo, my TS scored way better even though Vergil has no sig
pine slate
Last ion wz, nuke score better with ss0 rot iirc
barren plank
Hnless there’s a 5 slash tech for SS0 Im not aware ab
pine slate
Ss3 pyro is true definition of mid
pine slate
Hnless there’s a 5 slash tech for SS0 Im not aware ab
U can do 5s at the end
leaden tinsel
my ss3 solo nanmi scoring higher than sss solo wanshi and ss0 bianca ss3 lilith (dark wz skill issue tho)
pine slate
U usually don't tho
ebon adder
after nanami highest prio ss3?
barren plank
U can do 5s at the end
Dont u have to cut Pyroath’s previous rot down to just 1e tho
barren plank
after nanami highest prio ss3?
Probably Selena
leaden tinsel
after nanami highest prio ss3?
selena
barren plank
Tho we have to wait for Veronica to come out
ebon adder
after selena
leaden tinsel
per @vale raft
frigid moth
per <@517689574579896341>
Why is pyroath in 3rd 💀
frigid moth
Atleast SS3 ishmael actually does something for her rot
Solace I'd argue is above both of them
pine slate
Void as a whole is pretty ass tho
frigid moth
fr
pine slate
U don't just take into account their personal performance
frigid moth
Void as a whole is pretty ass tho
It's why I don't recommend them for new players
light basin
nah phys is faster than lightning for me
frigid moth
Ain't losing out much score wise
pine slate
U also have to think about overall account contribution and how well that specific team is doing
leaden tinsel
if vero ss3 is strong would be high there up as well as she is in 3 teams
pine slate
Only 1 team for now tho
frigid moth
And isn't SS3 solace needed for true slash to do damage?
pine slate
Ye
frigid moth
We really need an actual proper non collab s rank for that
leaden tinsel
leap qu shukra into true slash trust
frigid moth
leap qu shukra into true slash trust
Wait this could be peak 👀
light basin
actually
frigid moth
Honestly tho score difference between SS3 solace and SS3 ishmael is crazy
However SS3 ishmael still is solid to just slap in any elemental team
But meta wise she won't serve use
Since she doesn't really work well with zaza
light basin
with who
frigid moth
per <@517689574579896341>
I think order should be once Veronica releases
- Startrail
- Pianissimo
- Veronica
- Solacetune
- Geiravor
- Bianca
leaden tinsel
idk i have only nanami and ish ss3
light basin
wait shuold i just be running nana with double amp
leaden tinsel
i pulled ss3 ish on the aniv banner but now i'm thinking i should have pulled more cubs, have only ish lilith and lucia cub
frigid moth
wait shuold i just be running nana with double amp
Honestly that with lilith might net you a better score
wintry parcel
i pulled ss3 ish on the aniv banner but now i'm thinking i should have pulled mo...
Bruh
frigid moth
ik I got like 5.1m with solo wanshi
wintry parcel
Nothing
frigid moth
Oblivion and amp works better for when your amp isn't crazy invested
Oblivion, lilith, startrail is a strong solo comp
light basin
nice
leaden tinsel
but srsly tho, pulling 3 cubs should be more value than an ss3 yeah? i didn't know then cubs gave so much dmg
frigid moth
Can be used to hyperbuff either of the 2
frigid moth
but srsly tho, pulling 3 cubs should be more value than an ss3 yeah? i didn't kn...
CUBs give way more damage than some SS3s
hollow cosmos
ik I got like 5.1m with solo wanshi
fk is even a solo Wanshi?
show me
wintry parcel
but srsly tho, pulling 3 cubs should be more value than an ss3 yeah? i didn't kn...
Yeah..
frigid moth
fk is even a solo Wanshi?<:LunaSugoi:1020385906152194090>
show me<:LuciaOwO2:9...
I can stream it
In vc rn
wintry parcel
Especially if those Cub are for the attacker/main dps such as Pianissimo, Startrail and Crepuscule
hollow cosmos
oh ogi ogi
leaden tinsel
well i'll get the bianca cub this patch with tickets
digital bluff
Hi chat, still got 24k bc and 4.5k yellow tix, should I go for ss3 bianca? 
leaden tinsel
Jack of all trades
well that was my thought process
finite latch
Is it possible to do a 2 ult rotation on hanying SS 5* weapon and not on 2p cottie? If yes. How?
worldly valve
Is SS3 Veronica worth the pull? I just looked at the evo for it and it doesn't seem to be that much of a game changer
rigid dust
Jack of all trades
I think she has no use except in her own element when you already have all the meta units.
leaden tinsel
good thing i don't have all the meta units
crimson swan
Borgur talking i kneel
remote fossil
Is SS3 Veronica worth the pull? I just looked at the evo for it and it doesn't s...
That supposedly her s5 rank passive, i forgot her real ss3 rank passive
Hope they dont forget to change it
wintry parcel
Is SS3 Veronica worth the pull? I just looked at the evo for it and it doesn't s...
It's always like that
"it doesn't seem to be that much of game changer"
Until the actual character is released and then SS3 rank locked some rotation/scores that's actually pretty solid
You can't really just use the description as the measurements
Just wait until their actual debut
What are you rushing for anyway
Solacetune simply because you can actually play Crepuscule without Deadline Timing weapon resonance
waxen tiger
Peak?
worldly valve
Just wait until their actual debut
Oh I thought she released on CN
wintry parcel
Even if she did, no CN players would actually bother telling us how much it does
They never share anything besides general guides
remote fossil
Oh I thought she released on CN
This is her v3 vero, from what ik her v4 also slightly changed on ss3 rank passive, iirc it's the 1st paragraph being removed
worldly valve
They never share anything besides general guides
Damn
waxen tiger
Can improve anything?
?
worldly valve
This is her v3 vero, from what ik her v4 also slightly changed on ss3 rank passi...
Yea I looked at the S5 skill too, mostly just a qte activation skill
waxen tiger
What is even your question in the first place
Can I improve anything in them?
worldly valve
Was gonna ss3 either Bianca or Vero but ig I'll just save it for a future character
What I've heard was SSS Crepuscular is the major boost compared to the ss3
remote fossil
Can I improve anything in them?
Well harmonise dante's weap and build their teammates
compact hedge
Is ss3 bianca a must?
wintry parcel
What I've heard was SSS Crepuscular is the major boost compared to the ss3
Well, any SSS rank is a major boost in general
remote fossil
No for now
rigid ether
Which memory set for discord?
wintry parcel
Is ss3 bianca a must?
No
remote fossil
Which memory set for discord?
Patton cottie
compact hedge
I'll save for veronica then
worldly valve
Well, any SSS rank is a major boost in general
I mean for like SS3 minimums
wintry parcel
Your average pgr players never needs anything more than SS rank
worldly valve
But yea
remote fossil
I mean for like SS3 minimums
For extra qte dmg sure, she's not much difference on ss0-ss3 tbh
Just like pyroath now
compact hedge
Did they change the daily reset or something
worldly valve
I'll just save for Liv to go on debut or smth
light basin
broke 3m in dark wz yippee (my inevstment is awful)
worldly valve
Did they change the daily reset or something
Think they changed it, I usually get the reset at 3am but I got it at like 1am
light basin
go to sleep!
rigid ether
What should I pick for random skill? I feel like the best option would always be atk-
worldly valve
Malding, cant
light basin
real
light basin
What should I pick for random skill? I feel like the best option would always be...
top reso is atk bottom sig (also in pins)
still moat
What should I pick for random skill? I feel like the best option would always be...
What rank
pine slate
does 224 liilth work?
limber yoke
light basin
Daren is so expensive to make her worth using at all
SS3 R1 minimum
Wouldn't bother normally except Veronica turned out to be a phys amp
steady otter
zenith thorn
k whel
steady otter
donate HT mats pls
zenith thorn
no u whel
light basin
Time to start taxing the F2Ps
crude wing
leaden tinsel
donate HT mats pls
here
karmic anvil
crude wing
fk whel
remote fossil
Man, they abort the burn details 🥀
crude wing
crude wing
karmic anvil
morbing nerdgi
steady otter
@frank kindle hi mr wolf
any prediction for next week ppc ?
frigid moth
Is ss3 bianca a must?
No only her SSS is worth from what I know
crude wing
<@240836673489862656> hi mr wolf
any prediction for next week ppc ?
potentially this but our patch is diff from kr so idk anymore
ripe stag
potentially this but our patch is diff from kr so idk anymore <:EvilLiv:97691574...
I'LL DIE
Thanks
steady otter
whotf is epiates
crude wing
lloyd
crude wing
new content
ripe stag
whotf is epiates
steady otter
+2 vid
ripe stag
35m Dark
steady otter
solo lilick ss10 & ss low invest
steady otter
We also have Chiko btw
ripe stag
We got her
crude wing
we dont have her skull achievements yet so shes not coming till veron probably
ripe stag
we dont have her skull achievements yet so shes not coming till veron probably
Yea she's not here till Vero for us
But
35m ?
crude wing
30m
ripe stag
ripe stag
Discord's login animation is literally us sleeping on her lap
Sleeping on Discord's lap
steady otter
who have discord wep sign ?
ripe stag
steady otter
ripe stag
steady otter
can i borrow ur acc
ripe stag
<:LivWow:706377042220023828>
All depends on Veronica
steady otter
discord playable w/o dlt ?
ripe stag
discord playable w/o dlt ?
needs Double cross but yea
lyric dune
What's the best Bianca build?
steady otter
noted
ripe stag
What's the best Bianca build?
Depends on rank
steady otter
4 bathlon 2 cottie 2 darwin ppc
lyric dune
Below SS3
steady otter
wz 4 sign 4 bathlon
ripe stag
lyric dune
wz 4 sign 4 bathlon
And PPC is cottie instead of bat?
ripe stag
@steady otter Slash solo rot
steady otter
4 bathlon 2 cottie 2 darwin ppc
.
ripe stag
Ignore the damage since I didn't built discord
steady otter
<@642038028914917389> Slash solo rot
lyric dune
Ngl which one should I build first
ripe stag
I don't think Discord can do Chiko at all
steady otter
up too u
lyric dune
Bru
ripe stag
Ngl which one should I build first
General use build first
Then PPC
crude wing
I don't think Discord can do Chiko at all
just slap discord in with hanying and vero and call it a day
ripe stag
cant answer, global > cn
Global got Veronica emojis before CN
steady otter
w
ripe stag
summer topaz
we actually ahead
lyric dune
It's basically WZ vs PPC right?What other use does "main" build have since most side events like norman are easy to clear just by playing with one hand lol
ripe stag
This one is tied to a Veronica patch event
ripe stag
It's basically WZ vs PPC right?What other use does "main" build have since most...
General build is used for everything except ppc
lyric dune
Yea but I'm pretty sure you can clear most of that content with like 5 star memories and WZ build. It's mostly bw PPC vs WZ and who u think is more important no?
steady otter
both important
crude wing
just build both
steady otter
absolutely
crude wing
with harmo jeanne for wz build
lyric dune
I build both but I'm too lazy and forget to switch everytime kek
steady otter
summer topaz
i mean if you got plenty of harmo mats and wanna minmax the higher atk mems over jeanne
steady otter
new feature
lyric dune
They should do like a whole thing where u can switch the entire build like memories and harmony at once
Tbh it's kinda like a two step thing easy to do now even now ig I'm just too lazy.
karmic anvil
slate gull
reso?
steady otter
ask ezra
median shell
ripe stag
<@753199617943797780> what discord build 🛐
4 Patton 2 Cottie 2 Darwin
Or 4 Patton 4 Cottie
summer topaz
that vid is more appropriate once you know the rot
wintry parcel
He what
median shell
Racism in this server
slate gull
sorry i mistyped
ripe stag
Dude just casually
crude wing
sure you did
slate gull
4 Patton 2 Cottie 2 Darwin
Or 4 Patton 4 Cottie
TY!
ripe stag
ripe stag
Dude really thought of being racist infront of a mod
wintry parcel
Or his autocorrect
Who knows
lyric dune
Is wanshi still the priority with vouchers?
wintry parcel
Yeah
ripe stag
Is wanshi still the priority with vouchers?
One of the best one yea
lyric dune
One of the best one yea
Who's in competition?
steady otter
wintry parcel
Who's in competition?
Daemonissa comes in the second priority
barren plank
Did Bianca patch have Babel?
lyric dune
Aight thx
pine slate
I think ss0 bianca better with dlt than GA for r1
crude wing
barren plank
I think ss0 bianca better with dlt than GA for r1
Idk she feels fine w/o dlt
At least dark does
median shell
Did Bianca patch have Babel?
There's babel this patch
barren plank
Nice
pine slate
Idk she feels fine w/o dlt
Dlt faster on swap out
lyric dune
There's babel this patch
median shell
pine slate
The speed kinda stacks up and later on u can use 2 bianca ults at the end
At least for Daren teams
barren plank
Oh interesting
pine slate
Without dlt her swap out is kinda slow and u have no time for 2 bianca ult
steady otter
<:EvilLiv:976915741888626738>
barren plank
Ok that’s cool to know
I ended up putting DLT on her anyways cause Radiance form really wants it
lyric dune
Wait veronica is fire?
crude wing
phys ignition
lyric dune
Oh
barren plank
No she’s phys and ignition
hollow cosmos
@frigid moth with my current investment, i got this
SS9 R2 Wanshi
barren plank
My wata cub is named Wuhan virus
tidal hound
Without dlt her swap out is kinda slow and u have no time for 2 bianca ult
do u 3r on close up flash or on swap in if dlt
steady otter
My wata cub is named Wuhan virus
crude wing
jeffery and fred
lyric dune
She's primarily for ignition ig? Does veronica replace someone in the main physical team?
crude wing
alisa
barren plank
She’s supposed to replace Alisa
lyric dune
NOOOOOO
wintry parcel
jeffery and fred <:EvilLiv:976915741888626738>
Look at this Whale flexing his SS rank cub
lyric dune
THEY KILLED ALISA BEFORE SCIRE?
crude wing
Look at this Whale flexing his SS rank cub
barren plank
Problem is that unless they fix her damage, Veronica sucks at being a phys amp so much that people with SSS Echo might still end ip using her
Ok there’s no need for that I jumped a little
raw swift
where do i use celica bot
lyric dune
Bruh dis is crazy. I skipped scire on release for stigmata and she outlived everyone after her
median shell
THEY KILLED ALISA BEFORE SCIRE?
Lamia was killed first
raw swift
where do i look for builds then
median shell
where do i look for builds then
grayravens
lyric dune
I do have scire at SS now but could've been SSS which is what is optimally needed if I'm not wrong. How did they make her chopped ahh outlive Lamia and stigmata
raw swift
bianca
lyric dune
She even outlived lee
raw swift
ty
lyric dune
I think we'll get new Lee after liv
barren plank
She even outlived lee
She’s outlived Lamia
icy otter
Am I doing something wrong 🤔 on second swap in after ult I'm never able to get the second ult (6* R0)
ancient garnet
hey everyone started a the game few days ago and got bianca and her weapon what charactert do i get from here that work well with her
barren plank
hey everyone started a the game few days ago and got bianca and her weapon what...
Nanami startrail
icy otter
Am I doing something wrong 🤔 on second swap in after ult I'm never able to get ...
This is with the rydle rot
lilac wraith
To accommodate upcoming events, the server reset time will be adjusted from 07:00 (UTC) to 05:00 (UTC), starting with the version Through the Tide Home.
The following systems will be affected by this adjustment:
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more info :
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lyric dune
To accommodate upcoming events, the server reset time will be adjusted from 07:0...
Ayo
barren plank
Am I doing something wrong 🤔 on second swap in after ult I'm never able to get ...
Film what ur doing
icy otter
Uhh the full rot or second swap in
barren plank
Uhh the full rot or second swap in
Full thing
ancient garnet
Nanami startrail
she is lightning tank right ? how is she good with bianca when bianca is dark attacker ?
lyric dune
Btw is raydiance over radiance intentional or just typical kuro translation
barren plank
Btw is raydiance over radiance intentional or just typical kuro translation
I think intentional
But I wouldnt rule out Kuro moment
barren plank
she is lightning tank right ? how is she good with bianca when bianca is dark ...
You need multiple teams in this game if you want to clear content comfortably
lyric dune
Man this patch is heavy. I gotta learn 3 new characters and teams
Talking about vera not discord. My dum head skipped her thinking she'll come in base banner selector on DMC patch...
karmic anvil
barren plank
Also actually you need Startrail if you want to use Bianca’s radiance form
No image spamming please
crude wing
why do you have reasonable names for your memory presets
simple dew
ezra average activities
ripe stag
No image spamming please
I just sent 2 images man
ripe stag
why do you have reasonable names for your memory presets
Cuz it's peak
barren plank
Oh wait that was you
crude wing
ripe stag
My Piano's set is literally called Worm Girl
ripe stag
barren plank
I have names for my presets but most of the times they are jokes that only I understand/know
lyric dune
Too reasonable
crude wing
ok i never realized mine were actually named okayish
i thought i just put weeeeeeeee, eeeeeeeeeeeee, or oooooooooooooo for everything
lyric dune
They should give us 2021 players the unc role
The pre global release players should get fossil role
lilac wraith
Oh wait that was you <:lulw:842384743269924925>
ban incoming
barren plank
Nice knowing yall
lilac wraith
ripe stag
ok i never realized mine were actually named okayish
The only non-questionable ones
crude wing
heres one of them
ripe stag
heres one of them <:EvilLiv:976915741888626738>
Peak 00000
barren plank
The only non-questionable ones
Ok this one’s creative
pulsar viper
What’s the memories for daren for dark wz
pulsar viper
4 Piece Davinci
Thank you
pulsar viper
2 Piece Einsteina if Crepuscule already using Bathlon set
My entire team is sss and except Lilith (sss6) and I think Bianca is using cottie instead of bath
icy otter
Full thing
Nvm I got it was missing a 3p in there
wintry parcel
Can use 4 Bathlon for Scire harmony
pulsar viper
Can use 4 Bathlon for Scire harmony
I see so 4 bath instead of 4dv?
wintry parcel
4 Piece Davinci and 4 Piece Bathlon was the best set for Scire before even Crepuscule anyway
icy otter
Now real question is how do I keep track of walters small red fart in the middle of wz time maxing
wintry parcel
I see so 4 bath instead of 4dv?
You use both
pulsar viper
You use both
Got it thanks
limber yoke
Now real question is how do I keep track of walters small red fart in the middle...
You see
icy otter
I'm blind what now
limber yoke
Muscle memory
icy otter
Ok understandable
noble zinc
Now real question is how do I keep track of walters small red fart in the middle...
feel it
the timing for min max
icy otter
Would be ok if they didn't mess up performance this patch and I trolled by 2 frames of lag
cold walrus
The only non-questionable ones
You're from iceland?
pulsar viper
I just realized my daren is 6 shards away from being sss3 is it worth it?
autumn belfry
Should I get an extra copy of epitaph, lucid dreamer, daemonissa, or scire with vouchers?
I dont have scire rn, but im planning to get her using the S selector we get through that spinny wheel event
wintry parcel
Where's that voucher priority again
tidal hound
LD/lilith/epitaph in order
keen sable
already put both cubs into the trash
autumn belfry
LD/lilith/epitaph in order
No scire?
wintry parcel
No
autumn belfry
Oh
formal radish
LD/lilith/epitaph in order
What is this team supposed to be
tidal hound
her baseline investment is too high
autumn belfry
Power crept?
tidal hound
just S doesnt really cut it
pine slate
do u 3r on close up flash or on swap in if dlt
Close up flash
formal radish
No she's just really bad
wintry parcel
The only case that you would actually ever need Scire shards when you already have her signature weapon with 1 weapon resonance skill
autumn belfry
Wait I don’t have her yet. Should I just not get her then? Who should I put on my dark team tank then
wintry parcel
Then forget about her
autumn belfry
Kk
formal radish
Scire is like choosing to eat dog food over rotten meat
wintry parcel
You have alternative options
formal radish
She's better than the others but she's not necessarily good
tidal hound
Close up flash
yea i figured out the same tyty
karmic anvil
wintry parcel
Even though it isn't any better
At least it's way cheaper
tidal hound
Wait I don’t have her yet. Should I just not get her then? Who should I put on m...
can be SS ishmael or SSS dark xxi, choose the closest on ur acc
still moat
yea i figured out the same tyty
Nah it's better to 3p on swap in more of the times
It triggers both weather and GA if u use that
tidal hound
It triggers both weather and GA if u use that
omg yea i forgor about those two
2nd ult is stll within ampbuff right
still moat
Ss3 yes
Ss0 probably also yes, if the input is not much different
Still has 2-3s after 2nd ult before amp buff is gone
deft rock
I got most meta characters at SS but I'm completely missing wata and daren, is it worth getting them using the free selector from event or is it better to get my qu or luna to SS3?
currently coping wata with starrail and daren with ishmael
keen sable
voucher units atleast ss3 
empty cargo
Is Veronica full gacha
wintry parcel
Yes
empty cargo
Tbh I might just skip her then the dmc patch break hurt my bc
Gonna stay with turbo brick alisa
Or I could skip bianca weapon and get Veronica
formal radish
If you HAVE to skip bianca weapon for veronica...
crude wing
sly geyser
I got SSS+ XXi
fk whel
crude wing
Wtfrick s0
formal radish
Cause she copies daren anyway who's better in every way
elfin garnet
Vera runs 4daVinci, 2 guin, 2 ein on Ignition team w nanami and Dante right?
sly geyser
I forgot all help channels became brick-helps
formal radish
Am I wrong?
formal radish
Is it time for me to retire
formal radish
Doesnt she copy daren
noble zinc
Sometimes 4guin as well depends
pine slate
w38 did not spawn wtf
orchid adder
what the order for character invest is it attacker tank amp or attack amp tank or smt else
still moat
Former
zealous mantle
build bot is dead?
unborn hound
build bot is dead?
yes
faint monolith
Huh why is patton not in the memory shop
fading kestrel
Huh why is patton not in the memory shop
itll probably go to the limited section since Discord wants it
however, since discord isnt even out yet properly, the set just doesnt exist
just buy it in the recycle shop
zealous mantle
thanks! there's hope just yet
faint monolith
itll probably go to the limited section since Discord wants it
however, since di...
unborn hound
based for nanami vote