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sheeesh
should be around 9m for phys and 8.3 for fire
teach me phys 
azriellao back
extaria could never
Its so tempting to 3s alisa
he's stuck with 5m sss vergil

Only- oop
U had everything r3
ah right u are r3 abuser 
i have r2 qu
iceberg?
yea
fk whel
just get lucky in weapon banner. all you need is 3pulls for r3


not touching glacio until im done with phys
it looks like glacio also scores high this week
Yea swapping the mems is a pain lmao
Finnaly im strong
not open wz today

stronk
I need to save some of my WZ runs for later in the week
last time we had glacio i had 6.2m
erm guys

last glacio...
not even able multiple people did it with 2.333
sorry i will try for 11mil
that first guy from arcadian seems like a fraud
Does empress usually make the leaderboard
sorry we dont speak 444
we are cooked if the top 3 is getting 10.7 with SSS lena
fraud alert 
you understand it newbie 
never be a fraud like them
everyone slaccs this patch
lets try glacio
Dmc made ppl slacc
god i already forgot how to play this team

i used to be decent.....
stream it


rn should be a safe time to join bracket
Iguess everyone too
im joining
yea im joining with my alt too
i need to rewatch my own glacio run 
Hmm thinking i will slacc this wz
i need to surpass 20m for once 
What if im both

I see
If only vero was tank i could 3s alisa and everythin wpuld be easier💔
Yeah we need more a phys amp than tank
Hi guys I just got no.21 feral and Lucia crimson wave for free Wich one should I upgrade first
none
I agree i just dont wanna get han😔
cw bare minimum for wheelchair manual
Nah
Need both amp and tank
Only selena had kinda good dmg in low invest
uhh are u sure u dont need to use nanami on other ppc boss
for ppc it doesnt have to be nanami for zaza
I mean for fire i can use ishy or wats
Wanshi stoled by emperor
Stoled?
I mean he ice
Emperor is ice boss
Oh mb
for what boss? projection?
Yup
tank: 4x ele mem + 2x einst + 2x dv
luna: 4x dv + 2x gloria + 2x lantern
no healer mems in zaza, so not many options 
Ah k thx
its over chat i cant even 10m
why is the scoring so much worse compared to the last glacio
Btw will this be updated or will it stay at alisa?
Probably worse waves
Is selena ss0 or ss3?
The one u have? Will stay
Bp next patch will have wata


chopped + unc
how do you rotate a klenova 4pc selena?
replace Voltaire with Gloria
just thought of that
i forgor that this was my fire team
bruh
u do 1 ult only
and i guess the drill with shorthalt is like, animation cancel with vera and nuke
yeah but like there is a delay smth on getting to ult unlike cottie
Put ish not Lilick on amp
its not a delay u just need to do 1 more 3p + hold ba
hold basic > 3 ping > hold b > 3p > ult > hold d > hold b > 6x wp > hold d > ult > switch out
nope lilick gives more buffs cuz ish copies feral
Imma try this
js get Geiravor
And why nanami u got no unc?
anybody got a video for shorthalt?
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till next finals season at least

I got 40% done in cyberprank 
the fact that my units are cooked means i will probably kiwi again
🥝
was last week's IB just easy to enter? 
just kiwi rn instead of playing with cope teams

ur right
back to the finals
The new character dragon wing girl is a support?
pgr is temporary
the finals is eternal
phys+ burn amplifier
guy's i just started who should i pick?
Which dps can use her?
Selena week and isnt your selena ss0
Selena and Vergil
Donte and ignition nanami
thanks for the answer 

+pat for using donte
slap for using donte 

donte

so i assume no one knows 
...
wait what selector is that?
idk it's a beginner banner
👍
oh thx 
are you asian
wow thanks helper lao 
are you talking to me 
yuh uh
if you're then i can help you more
smh, favoritism
sadly not lol
rip


at least the game look fun i guess 

wait til you finish all content and the only thing you do is malding in wz and ppc

do the collab story
is that even possible as a new player?
yes
COOL
idk what wz and pps is but i was planning on getting my vergil first then save


i know but... nevermind. i just remembered i need to do my dailies. bye
bye
okay i figured it out eventually
if you're getting vergil then don't forget to get his sig, cub and 2 hanyings for meta
if you dont care about meta then yeah~
hmm i ma copy this and put it in my diary so eventually one day i understand what you meant 💖
THX tho 😭🙏
collab banner is only here for few days
you have 9 days to understand, vegan going away after that, hopefully permanently 
wait what
no one told meee
dmc followers will come to an end

hope to see you 10 days later
i will have him by then trust and... whatever is the cub and 2 hanyings are
nah i mean, the chances of seeing you after collab is over are pretty low yk~


lol nah iam sticking with the game i like it
Dmc shills
me
she will replace who?
I rrally want to 3s alisa 
Alisa for physical/ultima slash team
Vera for ignition team
Nvm i did

I didnt realise i had her in ppc shop so
changed my rotation on the suggested one, good enough score for SS selena r1, SSS wanshi r1, SS alisa r2?
its okay
aight, seems like there still a lot of tech on glacialization I need to know of
really fun wz, just need alisa to be replaced on mine cuz cant even invest more on her
2.33.33.0 322 glacio can 10m
is that SSS alisa?
Yes
thought so, her being SSS changes a lot on the score
higher invest lowers characters switch time?
SSS tank yes
yes, they shorten rotation on character. especially tanks have like -4s switch time when they are SSS
okay thanks
does domain deconstruction still work on ish if shes the amp
yes
Does Selena need DLT in Glacio?
yes with 4 klenova
it’s generally recommended for new players to skip dmc, but if you came here specifically for them, no one’s gonna stop you. just so you know, the dmc brothers are playable with a 5 star weapon in their regular elements, but for affix, they need their 6* weapon because they’ll run out of orbs on their 2nd rotation
if you want a less bricked account, you might want to just skip Vergil’s weapon because you probably won’t be seeing his affix content on your account (just save your bc for other more important units and just have him for fun). for cubs, it’s okay to skip them (Dante’s cub is worth it though since it unlocks extra moves)
but if you want his complete set, that’s your call
Someone said that a dragon girl is gonna replace alisa on Vergil team
Who’s the dragon girl?
Veronica
no next patch is bianca, veronica is coming in 2 patches
Okay
Ty ^^
So I can save for her then
Usually a patch lasts for how long? A month?
Patch lengths vary
6-8 weeks
Okay thanks ^^
Why Wanshi before echo?
I just played and hr or 2
wasn't played anything
no reason just felt like pushing selena with deer buff
Wanshi don't have fox equipped?
Got
If I were to briefly come back to the game, would it be better for me to get SS3 Qu or a copy of Wata for SSS (currently SS3, and I highly doubt I would have the vouchers for straight SSS)
Is there any special tech that I should know for wata? Cuz I do be missing the dodge hold + red sometimes and bricks my runs
I see a -7 and then I ‘fail’ to hook an enemy and it becomes -0 or +1 
someone should answer lovelllao's question 
i agree
where are the helpers when we need em
kiwi
for wata i find its honestly more about when you use lucia qte nuke during his rotation
xeno helper
he does like 0 dmg himself
i should make a helper tierlist like those AK dudes, theyre cool
Where’s kuraisan btw 

idek all the helpers...so it'll be the ones who were active ig
The legacy will continue
A new generation of this would be nice 
he is busy irl 
qiwi pgr
marcomeatball wtf??????
wheres migu chan?
Stick close to enmy
Someone added me inside nya
Joystick forward then hook can see it more consistent
i see then thx a lot i make sure not to go all out on them then 
thanks for the ref migu-nya~
but most of the people in list are deadge
or just hiding in their own servers 
Thanks Xeno & Nuke
let’s see if I can get another wave in
Is that what I'm doing wrong? 
btw is there any good wata guides I can look at to use as reference for timings?
Hi
hi steve
I feel like I could cook way harder with fire ngl
Wut timing it's done if it hoooks if it's not you r done
Hmmmm?
hook is so overrated you can 3 stack with no hook
is it faster than hook?
Low invest no rights 
is it a 3s thing?
I need like 4-5 blaze for wave kills
i just do it if the wave dies early
Wait a minute did the DMC battle happen without me?
ye
yeah
Man I was supposed to reside over it since I hosted it
cooked!
🫡
you forgot the (in game) part
Lucia nuke dmg problem especially in the earlier waves. Took me a few runs to realise I could just 3 orb w/o hook 
kms = keep my sanity

3s wata there's leeway 2s3 not
Also Jerm spotted in the wild 
jerm is coming back
pain
got pretty close tho
he cant resist dmc
I did my one tap when no one was there so everyone saw me going perfectionist 
need jeremey back
yeah na is chopped
I was considering coming back briefly to run some tests between Balter and Discord
No brother if he was in NA should have been 7.3 
let me know when new alpha frame
But if I do come bakc this patch I am definitely not coming back this patch

Asia Europe scores are bad
?
6th anniv
Im gonna wait for the tourists to leave so I can enjoy the game in peace
bad weather?
also let me know when nanami is out of lightning team
asia on top everyweek ong
Scorin
like some zones do give more scores even if your on same place
Guess I'll be going on a micro training arc this week
na stays haxed most of the time eu stays
eu always gets shafted

pgr? shukra
Oh yea
midkra
the unit that people thought was free
i forgot why is frustal a dalao? feels important to me 
old player
also knows ingame files
How much bc you need to SSS+ from SS0
nothing more?
I did record 1 of his run
base S rank
But youre gonna have to hear a painful amount of brainrot
Send plz
send in office
whatever, hes not active in gph so idk him
I did mfer
135k assuming all 60/60
Scroll up
I might be down for another cycle of runs but mute so you can get a clean record lol
will have to be later in the week tho
i only watch for the commentary tho
I'm gonna get some well deserved rest 
oh fair lol

Btw thanks, Rin. Your fire score made me notice something was wrong with my run
But I only noticed I ran the wrong memo set later on
they do anything different?

Yeah I was running duplicate Shakespeare instead of alphonse on wata
Clicked too fast on memo preset and didn’t notice
oh lmao

Lmao nice


how do I activate Jetavie's combustion/ignition?
half charge hold red tap basic
I'm so sick of malding emp ppc
I should be able to get the same 16s I got last time but idfk what I did to get it
and I have 3s3 wanshi compared to 3s from before
do i have to do that 4 times in a row to get 20 stacks?
no clue, ive only okayed her in guild
yeah
but you should not do basic atk after half charge if you want 20 stacks
cuz basic atk after half charge activates Ignition and you wouldn't be able to add stacks anymore
but 20 stacks wouldn't really matter, as long as u can deal Ignition DMG
You're not using jetavie in normal content anyway so 
In gb it don't matter
yeah, as long as there's Ignition DMG
Jetavie is lucky this week cuz Bridget is present
successfully made you equip our tag for free promotion, thanks

hi nergi, welcome your junior
I see
Thanks
@frigid moth 7.2m rn
watdafak
its all your masterful gambit all the time huh 
Ye
me just an innocent child
osoi
why is it easier to mald physical than glacio
i havent check the current banner in 2 weeks did the free selector banner dissapear?
Yea it's gone
what free selector banner? anniversary banner?
I hate wanshi on warzone🥀
yeah
worse is that glacio never had boss wz
Glacio itself is a myth
every week is glacio week for me though
Wz i mean
should i do ATundra on highest difficulty?
Why is PGR not a horse game
Selena misses her hold ba
Where is my horse

Bro
Is that Golshi photobombing as usual?
What
Bro likes them mentally unstable
This is why you are my brother

Alright
Time to close this app
Does anyone what is the best partners for oblivion
should I say the word 
every tank and amplifier works as long as they are not physical
Ohh ok
u can literally make teams like these
fire: luna, nanami, geiravor
ice: luna, wanshi, ayla
dark: luna, any elemental tank, lilith
lightning: luna, nanami, lilith/geiravor/feral
void(nihil): luna, ishmael, lilith or luna, nanami/wanshi, ishmael
luna is the zaza of all zaza

my dark team is like this now: luna, ishmael, lilith
looks like void right? 
Ss3 r1
Ohh myy ok thank you so much
Thank you brother from a another mother
luna is really versatile with that class passive 
Yeah
oh my

ishmael is also versatile btw. u can use her to fill in the role of amp or tank u r missing in wz 
sometimes I use this dark team: lamia, ishmael, lilith
ishmael holds bathlon cus u do want the dark shred 
2 more days



zamn
Ok got you
What the dragon doin
segs

💀
MOTHER FUC-
why does the score look familiar

Thats r3 going insaine
Someone please fund me r3
Sane im just r2 player
wtf reso
My echo doesn't even have one
Not enought luck on weap banner

SURELY veronica is gonna get huge ass buff
surely they'll fix float with her
Surely vero won't just be echo 2.0 because she set the precedent for 100% crit rate so all future phys amps must have it too 
I was meant to make her the best racer in the world
She was my only uma not to win a career mode
Who the hell is Haru urara
I like her ass in this size
why would they buff her ass
omg its emu from wonderhoy squad
Does it need to be more bigger
which do i choose for dante and virgil?
it doesn't matter who you put for that as long as they're fully hypertuned, the buff is global for every hypertuned memory in that slot
How does dying for them work
All umamusume are based off real horses
The real Haru Urara died
Oh
I wish I joined umamusume community like 3 months later
So it wouldn't hit as hard
would it be wise to not claim the boxes below? to delay myself from leveling up
yeah u can delay to clear some of those level missions. don't make the same mistake as I did. I gruduated too early and missed over 1k blue card
alr thanks
plap
i mean clank
does discord show in blue tickets next update? i do have to save for her right shes not free?
Her sss+ is free
how
Spend serum
🥵
Dragon car
dragon robot= hot
Id make it plap
she can make me plap
plap bianca 24/7
wondering how deep that tail can go

I can’t walk
run
time to leave this guy on base s
faking traitor
it's my smurf account
I thought it would be funny if my vergil is the only one at base s

fate banner at 26th pity btw
Base S is uninstall level trolling when SS is free 
The metaloas be cooking something everyday
who is better for virgil, ishmael or liv emperea?
exactly
neither
I think it will be extra funny if I pull vergil sig only to reso fodder it
vergil = physical = no alisa echo = no crit = maidenless and no rights
my bad im dumb. who is better for DANTE*, ishmael or liv emperea?
ignition bc i have nanami
was the ishmael change element to fire if nanami does ignition rot real
no
ok good
- i have sig 6 star weap

you will be forced to use empy
base s empy barely buffs fire though
only from class passive
the more I mald emp ppc the more I hate it
just wantap and cry later
no 
when do i know to use ishmeal vs empyrea on other teams?
I got 16 hell once and I'm trying to recreate it with literally no success
don't even remember what I did
i dunno 3s3 rot
like id like a basic run down of who fits for both
the worst part is that I did the 16 with 3s wanshi 
and now I have 3s3 so it should be easier but it isn't
how long is full hold ba combo
I even tried echo glacio zaza but no dice either
ishmael looks at the other support in the team, and copies their element
Nanami is lightning, therefore ishmael starts supporting lightning
However, Dante does not want lightning
for 30 stacks is like... 6 sec
Full 30stx doesn’t kill at 3s?
wanshi?
pretty sure nuke made a vid for it
if I had 3s ayla
hmm 8m possible this week 2.333 pyro nanami vera?
because you do 30 stack then ish ult for wanshi qte
kills in 13/14 sec
problem is I don't got 3s ayla 
same
should be 9m minimum
im at 8.1 with 2.332.3 on hero

bruh
just missing the slightest bit of damage after upping lingya edb skill
with 3s ayla or no?
Team investment:
[SS3] Kaleido + 6* Weapon [10% ATK + 8% ATK]
4x Guine + 2x Samantha + 2x Einsteina [2 class]
Rainbow [+100 ATK / +4% EDB / +10% Ice Dmg]
[SSS] Lucid Dreamer + 6* Weapon [Matrix Reso]
4x Liston + 4x Zuwen [6 ATK + 6 ult reso]
Snowveil [+10% Ice Dmg / +5% EDB / Wanshi skill]
[SSS] Scire + 6* Weapon [Shred + Echo Reso]
4x Da Vin...
needs 3s cow or 3s bonkerina
whats 2.32.32.3 122 fire nanami wz score ?
this is why I resorted to echo glacio zaza
how did that work out? 
hell?
well yeah
I'm thinking of briccing my knight projection to use lilith at hell shultz for 15s

also anyone know?
Must be bettter than extaria
ohh glacio can do 16s hell shultz easily, just checked the hp, lower than chaos digimon 
right
#punishinggrayravenglobal #theemperor #ultppc #exppc #qushukra #ayla #pgr #pgr_cn #pgrglobal #pgrgameplay
uh
filthy fat cow owners 
cuz she best gurl and meta forever 
min rights cow🥹
cow is on permanent diet cuz she fat 
feed her more or she won't milk enough 
always 17s 
my dignity will not let me save this score 
it's always just the SMALLEST bit of damage
I can try 15s hell with glacio, surely it will work 
maybe if I ss wanshi cub 
R3 everyone?

join SS0 r3 club
what's your glacio invest?
Espada's chaos digimon run should be able to 15s if you have the invest for it
2.33.33 111 111
uhh, no r2 alisa 
well, it's ~1.7m hp less than chaos digimon, so you can try it anyway
if that doesn't kill, try this rota:
https://youtu.be/5DlMI3t-TK0
more dmg, but 16s, and you need to be fast for that
I did this without echo on wanshi, so that's not needed
Team investment:
[SS3] Pianissimo + 6* Weapon [Matrix reso]
4x Burana + 4x Klenova [6 ATK + 6 core]
Snow Waltz [10% Phy / Selena skill]
[SSS] Alisa + 6* Weapon [10% ATK + 8% ATK]
4x Da Vinci + 4x Guinevere [6 ATK + 6 class]
Snowveil [+100 ATK / +10% Ice Dmg]
[SSS] Lucid Dreamer + 6* Weapon [Shred + Matrix]
4x Zuwen + 2x Einst + 2x Gloria [4 A...
bro his selena r3 
okay could be 9m i forgor vera had md and ican reso
also pyro r2 or piano r2?
only thats units r1 to me
Holy sh*t

Yes
Vergil
Also
Vergil is only 200.000 score behind Pianissimo?
It's wild
what the helly
did my guy steve got hacked
why my regil not enought motivated to do that
youre just too casual
noh its not my phys
Wut
its u right?
hero?
:kekvoid:
leg
No nqn here
Legend
Trash server smh

just use images
Now we watch for 10 hours
im w32/w33 and 8.8m smh
wtf
extaria is cooked alive
What do you mean

Kekscream
What invest
2.333 133 pyro nanami vera
🥹
Surely 10m?
The trex actually could do this btw
azriel sad 9m
Beef him up
but
Veri has 9.35rn
And I'm pretty sure you can push 3-4 more waves than me for 10m
3s Vera hooge
News flash the spinosaurus actually was really fat and stubby and could only survive by camping in rivers for fishes
Oh crap
Btw @limber yoke I'm reso bricking
Kek
Not enough damage to follow your rot and bad bear placement, I'd probably just try and figure out what i did on my first run
maybe if i buy a fast input keyboard
my vera rot cant less than 9s
9s should be fine anyways
R2 sel?
Im still malding glacio… my first Selena ult (orch) was killing wave 10 fully and suddenly its not anymore and IDK WHYYYYY ARGHHH
stroked
Omg I’m stupid why is Alisa not on 4 guin
Had her on 4 core
Wanshi stays on 4 Liston 4 Chen for glacio right?
Also alisa no dlt = less damage
Aya
Ye
Im r2 alisa
If r3 you'd probably 10m easier
So far I’m stuck at 6.9m hero
It's alot of damage
Kek
3S wanshi and Alisa, ss3 sel
Also i think EU has bad waves compared to Sea rn
W12-16 transition is blocked by 3 double bears
Should be in the 9M
I’m watching yomm’s run and realizing my selena rot is totally different
Azrielao
What's your faiya score
Need ss0 Selena glacio rot... Pls
Then mine should be fine since ss0 Vera
Anyberry link me with the zaza
I didn’t know u needed another 3 ping before ult 1
Or that u can swap in and hold basic first
Lmao that should prob make a diff
Well, I just learned to play this zone yesterday, so there might be some mistakes, like at 0:43 I could fix it or alisa's last rot, I was too hasty and mistook the dash button for the basic attack button lmaoo, but I think it wouldn't be too different if I could successfully ult alisa, around 20-30k points somewhere ig. And r1 alisa could also g...
I don’t rly use drone ult on Wanshi tho
Is it ult on w31?
No I'm on hero
Human rights aya
Waittt az do u have a good glacio run recorded for hero alr?
I’m too lazy to map the waves myself
What's your glacio?
9.5
🛐
windlao
I don't record cause I'm not planning to mald on hero
🛐
Where are my zones help
Keknorights
PGR EoS
Another lao
Windlao sign my undies
Too much lao power in here
True eos

do it
I wonder, lemme try Rai faiya wantap
can you use the hold dodge on alisa in physical wz
No one saw it
U do only 1 ult for phys Alisa right?
Yes
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bxqA-jeYzuk im trying to follow this but not sure
SS0 Piano: 4 sig mem, 4 cottie + DLT wep reso
SS0 Hanying: 4 sig mem, 4 patton + DLT
SS0 Echo: 4 signa, 4 DV (No wep reso), S Lingya cub
So far, the score from using Flower ults instead of always using 2 conductor ults is marginally better than 2 conductor rotation. More testing needed across several different wz weeks to determine which stra...
Damn they scored as much as me with ss3 sel and 3s Alisa😂😂
Well, 4.9m but I should be way higher than that
My selena flowers just always massively overkill or don’t do much dmg cuz of timing w wave respawns but idk how to get around it
It's hero thing nothing u can do about it
Oh ok, so it’s not me then😂
Still 4.9m is low for ss3 selena
Yea maybe I’ll record a run later
Not sure what I’m doing wrong
i am so cooked, these guys have much higher invest than i do 
Shinri chilling you can retain if base invest chrs got try🛌
Is there any guy who has nickname "kuripuu"
In that bracket
glacio?
He i fumbled my last flower cuz orb pings cant see
nope
Ok thanks
Garbage run, close to 12m possible (333)
@peak halo so you can def 10m with yours
i see
Dalao pilot my glacio
Wanshi pmo


ban the pilots! 
Why not just 2 orchestra rotation if flower keep overkilling in Hero
Like SS rank rotation
Yeah I might try it for first rotation or 2
Orch should fully clear multiple waves early on
I've found a decent Physical rotation for Vergil after trying from yasterday
i need to eat 
cant mald hungry
miss clicked at the end
idk what even score i should expect 
how to phys rot ss3 hanying? i keep forgetting 
It's 3 red orb and 1 yellow orb to green and signature move 1, 3 blue orb to fill the gauge and tap signature move 3 times and hold for the 4th tap
Repeat that for the second rotation but you're holding at 5th tap now
That should be the correct rotation especially if you only did 1 rotation with Solacetune at the start and swap to Pianissimo right away
@noble zinc man phys sucks at r1, nothing is more infurating than leaving mobs as selena with 1hp right before flower
Just play SS rank
Lmao
Won't find that problem if you never have to do flower ult since the first place
👍
Nah its problem there everywhere 
even at R3 we stuck at 1hp
cope then we clear
Selena lucia R3 did in hope will get me something
It changed nothing for Warzones
Like this mf caught some disease suddenly 
do u thinh theres a problems on my galcio if my selena finish her rot with +12s the timer but after finished alsia and wanshi rots and i get is +4
and after the end cant get better score
is 333 glac really capped on 10mil this week legend?
wahts next week wz
Ice dark light/ts
holy trinity of garbage
At least Bianca dropping on dark week
So I'm not actually trippin

absolute dog
magma a dalao tho
wrong one 
there's also this guy
nvm 
333 322
Is rot diff for ss3 and sss?
retainable?
If you believe
some used alisa ult on w1 some just switch instantly switch to wanshi
even if i do my glacio 
Believe
Don't look at that timer often
It gives you placebo effect for like 80% of the time
yeah but its was strage
should pyroath do double ult rot if geiravor double ult rot?
timer gaslighting
now just get negatives
my timer shows - for all the waves and i ended up clearing 1 more extra wave
Sometimes you think you're slow with your new attempt compared to the previous run, but if you keep following your new rotation you might break a new threshold near the end of the run resulting in better score at the end
Trust your rotation
Do you mean +
honestly current timer is kinda eh













