#📨・meta-help
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I looked at the chars and was like... ok, at least now the others will get the same score as I get when we have a gut week there 
Just leave then
you guys do seige? 
i respect whel guild i joined so yea i do
I done it to avoid being reminded by my vice, delta just requires u to do siege, score doesnt matter
join my guild. do it or not, it's fine. 
gotta get em guild currency for HT mats... ohh wait, I never used those ever since we got em anyway 
back to psx era graphics 
I already forgot that ht mats are on guild shop
With sync, honor lvl and ib already enough
i think i would have visited guild shop if i pulled for the brick brothers
luckily i didnt
I am not sure but mostly sure that I get more ht mats with dorm currency in a week than guild siege currency
I HTed so many qte bot sets lately, and don't even care about the HT mats lul
Were the memory usbs you get with wz currency always 2k or am I misremembering that they were cheaper
800 - 1200 - 2000
price reset on 1st of every month, but only the first 2 is discounted
answer came first before the question

henry has legit observation haki
Oh sht it indeed got reset. I swear it was still 2k yesterday!

wait today is still 1st of Spt nvm I am cooked I go to sleep
time to sss my cw 
should be 20, not 40 
jp has 40 even tho single patch
I will write kusogame and tell them to fix this voucher shop bug 

New discount limit? 
I bet when we get a new useful voucher char I could actually sss, we will be back to 20 per month already 
dw, wata soon
no you dont
do I sss him again? 
u got wata sss?
ye lul, since... I dun even know when 
wtf fat whel
when we got the 1st blue banner selector, I made him sss then
They're so mean for not letting us scrap shards before we get the character to sss+
Leader's Wings
Extra DMG Bonus of Signature - Explosive Purse increases by 35%.
Extra DMG Bonus of Scorching Torrent increases by 35%.
Extra DMG Bonus of Thermal Erosion and 3-Pings increases by 35%.
damn SSS3 is actually shite
Well to get a rank shop unlocked easier than secret s rank shop
Leviathan exclusive
i think i might just S+ cw so i can start sharding 
Start sharting?


should just get dmc characters to S+ to shard optimally since their pity is 5k cheaper than other S ranks 
lul

Should I build Dante even if he is s rank?
If you have either Geiravor or Pyroath, you have no reason to upgrade Dante for anything
Solo Startrail is enough and better than rotation with S Dante for Burn
No, at least SS3. If you’re on a low budget, 5star weapon and no cub can still work and should be enough for people who aren’t competitive in the game and won’t be able to reach Hero or Legend.
If he's not interested in Meta at all, it's his choice to upgrade his Dante or not
Whether it's for collection purposes or just anything in general
well i would assume he wanted the meta answer since he asked in the meta channel 
A very bold assumption you made that people actually read the channels name in this game
not as bold as you point out to be 
You think so?
Also does anyone have a written down Crepuscule rotation yet?
@analog robin

is vergin's SSS worthgetting? i often heard ss3 is best value for f2p
ss3 best value for f2p? 
SSS as f2p?
SS only for vergil(and all characters), dante is ss3
dmc is best value?
you should SSS+ them yommlao
if its you i don't mind🥹
SSS has the best value especially because of the free copy but for F2P, SS is your best value. Stop bricking your account.

thanks
Just save your BC for Bianca, that’s the smartest move for F2P players.
What the fu**

Where is solacetune?
Get her weapon
She's cancer to play without it
All in on SSS+
My plan used to be to get SSS+ Dante and Vergil then quit PGR. Is that what you’re planning to do?
Bold of you to assume he would actually play solacetune rather than staying with Vergil the whole time
nah not that
Stevey was asking for crepescule rot
No I just wanted to get vergil
Nah quit after dmc patch ends
I want to learn how to play him as I go through the game
If below sss is outside of my knowledge
Awh
just yap whatever you know to look cool 
https://youtu.be/SgXQ38qdwIQ?si=x0EIgH1RmINKhO_W, here one of them
Testing out Bianca. Keep in mind that with SS3 Scire, Bianca will still use cottie instead of bathlon and have a different rotation.
BGM: Falcom jdk BAND 2008 Spring - Silver Will
SS0 Crepuscule 4Jeanne 4Bathlon R1 S cub 6atk 6ult
SS0 Parhelion 4Sothoth 4DaVinci R2 Lingya cub
SSS0 Daemonissa 4Barcelo 4Cottie R2 S cub 6atk 6ult
im so done with meta slaves bro let me enjoy the game and play my faves in peace without worrying abt sigs and team comps like no, i really really don’t like that character idc if they’re meta help let me pull for ppl i love ty
im so done with meta slaves bro let me enjoy the game and play my faves in peace without worrying abt sigs and team comps like no, i really really don’t like that character idc if they’re meta help let me pull for ppl i love ty
Ni
Ok now resonate with dlt
im so done with meta slaves bro let me enjoy the game and play my faves in peace without worrying abt sigs and team comps like no, i really really don’t like that character idc if they’re meta help let me pull for ppl i love ty
ce people
interrupted the pasta chain smh
Hey, joke aside, I really hope you enjoy the collab and your stay even if meta players might disagree with your decision.
im so done with meta slaves bro let me enjoy the game and play my faves in peace without worrying abt sigs and team comps like no, i really really don’t like that character idc if they’re meta help let me pull for ppl i love ty
bro is a little motivated
?
Her weapon
Resonate her weapon with dead line timing

His solacetune have nothing
his solacetune have two things
He's hard everyone
jesus my brain is fried looking at this
isnt yours already fried even before this
double fry
deep fried brain now?
fr
its hilarious how people say dmc is f2p friendly and completely forget about the 2 other characters for them to make it work
now help me i got 7m last night on burn drunk
now i have no clue how to get it again
i dunno how to play

pls help dmclao
do you ping blue once or twice before ult on ss0 vera?
doesn’t it convert 3 blue orbs when you do the charge atk before ulting?
i’m using support set instead of cottie so i don’t have enough energy to get the ult without it
unless i’m missing something?
and i assume 3 blue ping x2 without the charge atk is with cottie then
Yep
gotcha, thanks for the replies 
Send a nuke to his current home address
nuke is to expensive i dont have money
I didn’t think of that
send a tax bill
Is Bianca stigmatabetter then lamia
0 dollars im unemployed
Both are different elements
And both are dead



Pick wata then
Still epitaph despite Burn Startrail outperform S rank and 5 star epitaph as a fire Tank almost in any circumstances
how many copies of cub do i need to hit sss+ cub
Do Dante need sign and cub?
I don't know if it's good or not. He doesn't use signs and uses Vera CUB instead.

for solo nana is 3s lilith or ss3 vera better?
Only when ss3 ish
yeah but why
because Ish is a fraud who can only copy the strongest unit in that element
So if Ish is SS3 she'll copy Daren who has no gen 3 passive on SS3
10% shred btw
Ah, that doesn't explain it anymore
wait daren doesn't have more shred at ss3 ?
Banishing Sunglow
Gains an extra 3-Ping chance triggered by pressing and holding Basic Attack to charge (up to three times). Upon the third 3-Ping, the corresponding Leap Attack will deal 400% more Base DMG, and Radiant Whirlwind will deal 75% more Base DMG. Upon casting Starshatter Horizon, Karenina: Scire will generate a 15s Thermal Field, dealing 75% Dark DMG once to targets entering the field and inflicting them with Chain Fusion that reduces Dark Resistance by 15% for 10s.
When in the Anti-gravity status, Karenina: Scire deals 10% more Dark DMG. Dealing damage will reduce the target's Extra DMG Reduction by 5% for 8s. Triggering this effect again will renew its duration. Press and hold Basic Attack to start charging and immediately activate QTEs that are not in cooldown. Radiant Whirlwind's spin speed will automatically increase.
Gen 2 ah passive
to fk up is our nature

*so when a gen 3 dark tank replace daren
ah
If
I thought
daren was hiding in the corner
Daren lives in forever
Hello
Daren lives rent free in your head
Daren is not gonna die
is asia more shafted this week or is no one malding? no 1 hero nowhere near america and EU
im so done with meta slaves bro let me enjoy the game and play my faves in peace without worrying abt sigs and team comps like no, i really really don’t like that character idc if they’re meta help let me pull for ppl i love ty
pasta?
this dont seem like u
what else
understandable
Definitely a pull. missing out on vergil or dante is extremely lethal toward your account as the units are announced to have 1 element and 2 affix effects each. not only that, the two characters mechanisms are only locked behind ss0, which beyond that point is just damage and small rotation changes. Based on their skill description, they could change warzone benchmark forever and might even make ppc onslaught look like a playground.
someone is saving the pastas
only the juiciest ones
where is the i love lamia one
Who typed this 
Thanks for the pasta
it's on reddit iirc
Ahh
don't have it
i probably have it
I really love Lamia. Like, a lot. Like, a whole lot. You have no idea. I love her so much that it is inexplicable, and I'm ninety-nine percent sure that I have an unhealthy obsession. I will never get tired of listening that sweet, angelic voice of hers. It is my life goal to meet up her with her in real life and just say hello to her.
I fall asleep at night dreaming of her holding a personal concert for me, and then she would be so tired that she comes and cuddles up to me while we sleep together. If I could just hold her tail for a brief moment, I could die happy. If given the opportunity, I would lightly nibble on her ear just to hear what kind of sweet moans she would let out. Then, I would hug her while she clings to my body hoping that I would stop, but I only continue as she moans louder and louder.
I would give up almost anything just for her to look in my general direction. No matter what I do, I am constantly thinking of her. When I wake up, she is the first thing on my mind. When I go to school, I can only focus on her. When I go come home, I go on the computer so that I can listen to her beautiful voice. When I go to sleep, I dream of her and I living a happy life together. She is my pride, passion, and joy. If she were to call me "skk," I would probably get diabetes from her sweetness and die.
I wish for nothing but her happiness. If it were for her, I would give my life without any second thoughts. Without her, my life would serve no purpose. I really love Lamia.

Hero wz so bs
Bald void bettwr
How to be good at ib


If Teddy is the only Nihil character I have right now, Ishameal or Luna?
teddy was never nihil
She's listed in the menu with the element
They should probably take that icon off her page then...
Also in general just don't trust what kuro tells you in game lol
They almost made it say pyroath was 20% lightning
The numbers mean nothing in reality
Well I still don't know whether to go for Ishmael or Luna if I have to pick one
luna
Guess I'll go get Luna then
did u create this
nope
Reddit or here


Light, nihil, dark/ignition
dark better than ss0 solo burn?
22.32.3 112
Might be
in too lazy to do dark
might just do solo burn
I scored better in burn than my zaza dark, wantaps
should be easy to wantap promote to legend
Even tho burn has bug rn
Ss0?
eh might do old void
if that still isn't enough then i learn ish
just wanna get to leg to mald phys and glacio
im 100% just going to go for old void for now tho
Whel ending up there is either skill issue or they got death bracket
But prob skill issue most of the time

Need a slack bracket in legend
Imma enter on thurs-fri
God speed
looks like hes trying to troll this place and trying to make us feel bad for discussing meta
why would we feel bad
it has happened numerous times already
we just call them rtards and move on
No way this channel is active
I thought this was dead
I havent played in a while
Should i update
when does it end
19th
19 sept
+1 on ur name
ty ty
what did we get for anniv
what did i miss
am i bricked
nvm not updating
the anniv banner is going away. just the big ol rerun banner
nothing crazy
5th anni rewards will be given to us next patch
who even pulls on that
still no mfkn space bg
rich people, and stupid new players
oh we got that
idiots
we're getting 5th anni bg next patch too
Rest in Pepperoni
whatever man
Fantasy bg next update
i have tsubaki
disgusting
fushen tb veronica
easy
The one with selena
idk man
We'll get this one in the next glb anniversary 
tourist
nah
oka mr.spice lets get you to bed
i was about to insult you for name and pfp, but youre in office 
good ragebait
the things i gotta do to attract players
thanks i have not been tucked in for a while
you're so nice
i had to get a dante pfp in order for lobotomized dmc stans to listen to me, but ive given up
none of them last a week anyway 
lobotomized is crazy
Good morning mortals
nihil rot swap ult > y rrdd > ult 2
after that its ult > d hd rrdd > ult2
How do you do this morning
is this good rot
where did your clones go
I set them free
hello mambolao, thanks for teaching me motivated vergil combo
Hello baby how have u been
im vergilling it so hard
so romantic
Lemme join u
im being gaslit
im being gaslit
No it's true
no its just romantic
stay in school
you mean skool
i can last more than a week 
Damn that's a long time
miniscule is just a school but small





Just bg eh, no anni banner?
How many banners u want 
its already 5th anniv?
CN's 5th anni rewards will be given to us next patch
our global 4th anni was only very recently
We catching up 
and then in december will be CN's 6th anni
Actually nov patch 
End of sync 
do we get better rc packs next patch
trying to decide how to best spend my rc
U will see bianca patch has quite hefty rewards cus bianca patch actually 5.5 anni for cn
whaaat rly?
Spender event in walter patch
ooh nice
So much better to spend next patch than this
Before 2026 we will be caught up
Just said at the of the year
hm
sss dante and vergil is obtainable for me if i spend...
but im losing out on stuff next patch then (unless more 💳 )

damn i should have started playing this game earlier
end of june is a bit late
Loona patch?
Despite april start im fat
im so poor rn
But couldve been better
Could’ve been obese
Cus 2025 full of accelerated patches, if u played before that, u will have full one year clairvoyance 
:/
i started in echo patch 
Why i become more poor tho
acutally maybe id still be poor if i started earlier
for some reason i keep wanting to spend bc on the coatings
This game called management for a reason
after sync, no more management
we're all going blind
After sync only pain
we could even get spooked by new TS and burn dps
Pls 
How about fix dark with tank
Daren for another 4 years, trust
Daren investors rn
More spend more regret
Should i consider r2 daren atp?
dlt + resonant echo
no ishmael?
Dark shred not found
Ss3 ish not gonna do anything
Why not
Gonna shred dark

So what are the version timeline after the collaboration again
So we get Crepuscule first
Then the A rank character
Who is it next
Veronica
then free light amp liv
Bianca > discord > veronica > liv

Hmm
Then gonna wait for liv's livestream to know the next line until 6.5 anni
Just give Veronica for free
That's true
true
If veronica is phys amp
We riot
is it genuinel ybetter for dark team to run
luna zaza : 3s wanshi R2 , luna, SS3 R1 lillith
or
ishmael tank = SS ishmael R2, SS0 lamia R1, SS3 R1 Lillith
Still signup
i heard phy icon is usually reserved as placeholder
So we still don't know yet 
it would be quite, frankly, genuinely, stupid to make it phy in any way
Phuk
omega cope, but i believe it
Neither
help dalao
We it was quite, frankly, genuinely, stupid to replace feesh first before someone like cw
dark team so bricked ðŸ˜
The first one

still the team i genuinely just 1 try and called it day
But do u not play ignite?
The only correct answer is skip dark content until Crepuscule debut
thing with phys is, that its strongest ppc boss is skych, which is like, ANCIENT
i find it really likely that theyre gonna make em phys, and then add a pcc boss along with it
Imagine a timeline where we got bianca light attacker instead
Callback to veritas frame
Would've fit the dumb "0.5 was always attacker" shite
Alternative timeline when Crepuscule is a Lightning unit
And Veronica is a Dark unit
That kuro wants to follow
Ice boss also ancient right? Emperor released first rather than skych
yeah hes quite old
is true, however the ice team is still very weak
phys is strong with selena, but she didnt bring a ppc boss along
it would be crazy if veronica turned out to be phy amp LMAO
I'd rather do 0 rots with daren
40m boss 
i would kill myself
Wish granted 
66m is alr a thing anyway so
Fabio no
You'll jinx it 
how many weeks we still have
Until dianca patch?
Not many
ye
18 days
because i felt like i cant SS3 dante
@fading kestrel 
dwerk on my face bianca
I seriously hope it's double patch with discord
its triple
That way wata leap comes early


Fire team becomes top with wata leap 
5th anni rewards will be next patch for us
and the actual 6th cn anni is december

so ye its the liv patch
My fire invest will become even more bricked
Does it?
unless i am stupid or som
332 112
Yeah, 19m
Dang, could swear dark is at the top still
Just dissapointed that he cant shred dark
Huh
Kuro really shafted him🥀
Dark is 19.7m iirc
We get 3 annis b2b
Anni badges*


they gave unc darkflow leap
however, they made it so that the shred can ONLY work for df, and not dark
first affix unit to be like this
wtf
They just want daren to be usable
they milking daren's live shelf
all these are signs pointing to dark tank veronica, trust me
just let her go gng
anyone pls donate voucher so i can finally unshaft my lillith to SSS
Buy all bp
Wdym alisa also buff just glacio
They didn't do this for scire tho
no gng its hella expensive on my place
It's just them
Once I get a stable job I'm quitting pgr
Scire is diff
She unreplacable
I'm probably younger than you
Judgmental Apocalypse
In Congelation Zone, [Signature - Celestial Edge] instead deals 3200% Glaciation DMG and activates a 15-second Congelation Mark. Duration resets every time it is triggered or when Echo exits the battlefield. When there are Ice Spikes, the Congelation Mark will be regarded as activated.
When the Congelation Mark is activated, [Class Skill - Amplifier] will grant Ice DMG boost instead, and [Core Passive - Blessing of Fortitude] will grant Frost Crystal that provides the same amount of Ice DMG boost.
Level 9: Spending Soul Shatter Mark will increase the Base DMG of the next [Signature - Celestial Edge] by 50% (cannot be stacked).
After casting [Signature - Celestial Edge], Echo enters 2 Cipher Orbs for Cecily and leaves Melting Snow behind, restoring HP equal to 20% of Echo's ATK every second to allies within it for 12s.
Level 18: In Congelation Zone, Echo deals 100% Glaciation DMG every second to nearby enemies. In Judgment Zone, Echo deals 100% Physical DMG every second to nearby enemies.
New effect of [Passive - Dreamer's Shore Lv.3] added: Echo gains a 30% Extra DMG Bonus when either zone is expanded.
i doubted
Every dalao is like 20+
and you are?
@peak halo read that
I'm not a dalao tho so I don't count
i genuine forgot my own age
She has ice dmg boost
but close to 20
But I am not even an adult yet
whatttt
They really don't want scire gone
Daren breaking rosetta record
shes WAYYY TOO OLD to still be in meta slot like

Wata is the only male that got affix leap right? That's why
Daren will outlive the eos
ðŸ˜
Frfr
i havent done any warzone or ppc
for some reason i dont have the energy or motivation other than to daily on pgr
its punishing: karenina scire now
Sad how i stop read after i seen the prev
the power of val and strinova ig and couple of mobile moba
Reading power skill fr
Yeah just read all the sht before assum
I wonder if s+ wata can out-dps 3s pyro 
Even more bricked fire invest
Imagine seeing someone with 342 112 invest on lb 

I was on with 423 light
So metawise what's the recommended rank to get the dmc units and dark bianca?
amiyapog association tag

ss3 dante, ss vergil, ss/ sss bianca
There is guy in general help with sss3 virgin, s0 han and ss echo

Wataphak s+ cw 
That pops in from time to time
Can't even 8s tifa haiya
Same my inputs is slow
How much does dmc cub improve dmg? Also how big of a difference does getting the dmc units to sss make for their affixes ranking?
Same for for me, hurts to see 33(soon to be)2.3 212
If u are missing other units that sss wont do much
I have all other meta units at sss
It's just standing there
Up to u, imo walter sss will be much more healthy for acc
Walter?
any lightning score ref for 3.03.03.1 Lightning
https://huaxu.app/ap/players/26792186/characters
Help guys, what team in my acc is one of the current strongest (plasma is used)
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Iguess nihil
ok on it thanks
Fire is an option too, guy is neutral
fk whel
me too poor to relate
Light feels so bad
cooking

590k plus 222 111 111 Nihil 16/19/31 sec
next time, I kinda bricked on orbs of Ish, tho I still have the vid
im kinda desperate, I have school projects to pass
No time to play


the vid

absolutely ded
yes
What memo nanami use in Plasma PPC? Is it 4 Signature 4 Heisen with Class skill?
Did u cook smth 
who to place instead of lucia???
What are u trying to do
middle ppc, anything that buffs vera is good
Weow no Vera sig
Luna*
i have ishmael, who is gera?
Such a predicament
I meant luna
uhhh no? why nihil tho? middle ppc is good with everything
Ish snapshot
https://huaxu.app/ap/players/15926360/characters this guy do anything but not memo and weap reso🥀
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Will ishmael even work if the team has no dps, her role will stay as observer
If there’s already a tank and amp she stays an observer
ishmaels role does not depend on dpses, she ignores those
it depends on who the other support is
if i have:
Ishmael
Fire attacker
lightning tank
then ishmael will go lightning Amp
Yeah, im talking if the team Consist of a tank, amp, and Ishmael
Who dis 
oh then no. no buff at all
Figured
I encountered someone on ch1, he asked about plasma but idek how to advise him
Why you typing in ch1 
Casually chatting with my guildmate on ch1, but yeah my guild quite ded on chatting
and they said dmc patch will save pgr
yet dead chat
it saved pgr for like 3 days
even the amount of players in adv ppc decreased
it saved pgr for 3 days, but killed many non-dmc only players in the meantime too 
Just by 3 days did nothing tho
Are you interested in joining an active guild, i can intro—
@formal radish

Dont wanna
need to be more forceful and force him to join


can ss3 r2 nanami get 800w on ignition in legend?
Seems doable
Unless you don't have enough weapon resonance on your support for her team
Getting it might be very difficult
Swap? Doable enough
I have 3S lilith r2 and luna on her team

Dunno, me with sss nanami r2 just got 860w (still skill issue from my side)
I see, maybe the capped on ss3 might be 700w+
Idk i not done ignition yet this week
Prob
at some point ignition instead of resuming from same position it just transfers into 20 stacks 10% time remaining
between waves
and u have to restack every wave basically
Uhh that tough
So skill issue this week to
I'm seeing SSS rank Startrail with Oblivion and SSS rank Daemonissa getting 9 million score in Legend
Even i try to be better nihil yet so after i guess skill issue burn
I dont want to try another ish rot
Eu is the shaftest
Always we got the worst waves which possible
Should be enough with 4.6m
Blazing Shooting Star
Resistance Reduction of Turbulence Interference and Scorching Invasion increases by 10%. Base DMG of Meteoric Doom increases by 100%, and Base DMG of Blazing Rift increases by 60%. Inferno Cyclone applies Combustible Charge 100% faster.
Resistance Reduction of Turbulence Interference and Scorching Invasion increases by 10%. Each time Meteoric Doom consumes 75 points of Overload, the next casting of Starshard Slash increases its Base DMG by 25%. Stacks are cleared when separating the Shield Axe. For each 5 stacks of Combustible on the target, casting Cosmic Starstrike: Burn increases its Base DMG by 16%. Upon entering the battle, casting Decisive Detonation! for the first time grants 100 points of Starlight. The phase 4 of the first Flowing Light cast grants a 16 extra points of Signature Energy. Cooldown time for switching between all characters in the team reduces by 3s. This effect does not stack with other effects of the same type.
Bruh i fight for 7m

I guess u had ss3?
Yea
so far im not even forced to fix my quick wantaps
U really know when enter for slacc bracket
im against this person https://huaxu.app/eu/players/13152432/characters
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What the hell
My bracket so slacc lmao
SSS+ Startrail
Wait bio get a tough bracket or he slaccing
Just pack it up
3m ignition
He forgot to activate Burn skill
maybe he played darkflow
mine is a bit tryhard
Oof
Iirc hes the vice of delta or mvp, idr
Me? Im just a regular member on delta
uhh its that blitz

maybe im misremembering
oh choco
Gl on trying to retain bro
i not really try retrain so will be fun if i
join ls2 
Main DPS Set
Main DPS
High Difficulty, Pain Cage, Warzone, Clash Reflection, Norman
General DPS set
Used at all ranks
4x Heraclitus
2x Cottie
Top Slot : 6x Any ATK+15 Variant
Bottom Slot: 6x Signature
Cottie
Dont wanna
ls2 top 10 lb (me) 
Is Pyroath better as fire dps or plasma beam?
So u want to play glacio on hero for next week eh?
If u have geiravor, then pyroath better as plasma beam dps now
What if i don't have Geiravor?
no matter where i played it. i just mald for fun
Then she still dps for both team
Replacement for Geiravor?
I pull lucia Pyroath without having epitaph or geiravor
Felt like a mistake, but the anniversary banner ends tomorrow so..
U can go with empyrea, but by then pyroath still will be the main dps
The only way is to cope
I also don't have empyrea
Wait this is so confusing
What is it, my words sometimes confusing
Still will be the main dps?
What do you mean by that?
Uh maybe go with bridget and sophia, sophia just succ
Is it worth building A rank?
just go off ele amp at that point. ishmael or lilith
What memory does nanami use in Plasma PPC? 4 Sig with 4 Heisen + Class skill?
Well without geiravor, pyroath just be main dps on fire
on WZ yes
So You're saying with geiravor lucia is not the main dps?
For PPC?
4 heisen 4 dv/ 4 heisen 2 gloria 2 eins
4 DV 4 heisen
I swear sometimes pgr team have its support as its main dps
Yeah
get used to it
look at mf flexing in help channel
DV is on lilith already, so i guess she's on Gloria eins
Not sometimes, it is what it is
soon we'll have another batch of amplifiers and tanks become main dps over attackers
Heh
selena subdps when
||veronica subdps to TS vergil when||
next cn patch
Need it now so pwo can cry in the corner
Never, let the Vergil pullers suffer 
I get for creative playstyle, but making support a main dps and attacker anything but sub dps makes things confusing
Oh my god
Im just joking @mighty tusk, dont take it seriously haha
well this happened with cw so.....
I mean.....||veronica|| will just be ss with sig and cub
Yeah it f-ing happened to CW
unless voucher
therefore CW is outdated
I'll be honest, CW movesets are better than Nanami StarTrail, and somehow she is the sub dps
With affix added, seems like kuro wants to make attacker shines on affix while amp and tank will do their dps job on parent element

Hell no
it was mandatory for startrail to powercreep cw
she (cw) was already the worst main dps before startrail
How so?
I thought CW gameplay is simple?
bro is outdated
her numbers are plain bad
you can easily off-element her own ppc boss with other team
She just mainly stylish like dmc, uk what, when cr first released, she almost unusable there 

The w in cw stands for washed
meta help channel* 
What does the c stand for 
i don't want to say
Mainly stylish huh
🥹
I always feel conflicted when a character is cool but the dmg number doesn't live up to it
I heard you was conflicted
you should not be talking in meta channel with this name
oh look ragebait
I do what i do
That's what makes people went to pgr back then and making her one of the most hated chara due to her fans
Her fans being in denial of her being the worst?
cw is very well outdated, saying this as the #1 alpha glazer
Ye
I legit saw people got shocked when kuro announced cw leap and actually say " most op unit gets a leap"
I say she will only be truly outdated if until she got a new frame
#1?
You never met shaderider or abyss
I mean she is still used in lightning team
I dont
As sub dps sure
Hog rideeeeeeeeeer
So still something
I don't
qte bot
Huh?
btw solo pyro for this week?🥹
Yes
thamks lao
never seen those people, gotta be active to be #1
you haven't seen nanami-lilith-luna qte bot for solo nanami lightning?

massive even
that's what she said

kuro is doing everything but a new alpha frame

who the hell asked crimson weave to be in darkflow team
Alpha will get a new frame as soon as she's powercrept
We can all agree with that
and they made the leap trash somehow
the only question is, who's gonna replace her
found my previous lightning score
zaza too stronk
i think the one to replace cw will be a male character
Still used? Not for me
I expect Alpha to replace herself tbh
imagine chrome going from budget cw qte bot supporter to replacing cw
Wait why Luna and Lilith tho?
How does that even work?
nah we're not getting a male attacker 
never in history have such thing happened ðŸ˜
The next lightning amplifier will kick cw out of the team guaranteed
it did happen for Lee and Nanami
imagine alpha lightning amp
Luna's class make other elements buff and debuff except physical into universal, that's why u can use this zaza team
luna's class passive converts element-specific buffs/debuffs to omni-element buffs and debuffs
when Lightning Amp, more power to my Nanami
oh right, the stone age is history 
Since Lilith's buffs are so good, you'd use her as an amp
back in my days
more like she's accessible due to voucher
Both
So she debuff all elements besides physical?
No
cant wait for nanami lightning replacement, she should be only good in ignition
luna converts lilith dark buffs to omni-element (meaning startrail can benefit from buff)
She changes the buff/debuff elements
No, debuff coming from tank while buff coming from amp
single character being in more than 2 meta teams is not a good thing nanami fans
She herself dont do much
wdym she's good in many teams
you can't replace Nanami without massively break the balance
Her class that is most valuable
Then what does luna do?
yeah that shouldnt be happening
that's nanami law
Why is it so confusing?
I already explained earlier
its not
Nanami got the short end of the stick since the beginning
It's only fair that she's finally getting what she deserves
is there a text explanation for wtf is going on in this video or what I"m supposed to do xd
one of the only two B rank
worst Fire tank (twice)
this is a VIDEO GAME, we cant just be using startrail in everything because she "deserves" it
So she convert any element buff and debuff into basicall all element buff and debuff?
honestly, it should be easy to powercreep startrail as main dps
we actually can because its a video games 
yes, as long as it's not physical
Ok got it
Yes except for physical, because they're racist towards those units, physicists you may call them
in my other video games I could be using one character for the whole game
what's the confusing part here
Nanami already has her last frame, so we will know that can get another frame after startrail got powercrept
So Luna works on every team besides physical?
I mean, not really
Luna zaza can technically work for any team
doesn't mean it's good for every team
highly depends on the team and where you're doing it
ah luna the joker card
She won't work properly on teams where the maindps is an attacker
u need reverse unlocked; to unlock it u need to do one yellow run for wind catcher ending;
Reverse as in description tells u; it refunds u past 3 days + present day spent actions + it reverse back pools u clicked.
Exp scales with pools u click; so on both stages u want to spend actions for 3 days, then on fourth day spend action again and pop reverse
I feel like the tables have turned these days and CW haters are actually more obnoxious now
+ultima slash too, since ultima coming from physical




