#📨・meta-help
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Yeah for nihil it's dependant on how invested your account is
thanks for memory help, now void ib is 56s
yeah my acc is not invested
if i were u i'd try void since ur ish is ss3 r3
I'm the master when it comes to running scuffed strats
only did ish 3 rot, got 53s
what is this rot
i dont know
also why u didnt switch to gera
i did
like earlier
oh first swap?
try to do that rot#📨・meta-help message
do 3 rots of this from ish
then switch to gera
also u dont need dlt on ish for that so switch to smth else
send huaxu yukino cause what is that damage
Does anyone have the video of 12415 plasma rot?
what is that damage as in it takes two ults for me to get to where you did in one
at the end of 3 rot I still have a bit of purple shield left
prob bad qte
you're already damaging the real healthbars
also keep in mind his ish is r3
imagine malding void
the power of black cards
yeah i was on sar dlt and dd xd
just dd
why
she doesnt heal when she's tank 
she doesn't heal to activate the atk boost
she doesnt need to heal
reso glorious spear instead
that's an amp reso doko
ish is observer, she gets access to all class resos
mb, i confused the two, it works
i know, but she isnt able to use it when she's in tank mode even if you put it
thats dumb
but do incandescence instead, bigger atk boost for ish, which works since she's the main dps
why would they do that
i know 
Really fraudmael
Has an access to both tank and amp, yet can only reso depending on ur role
since you don't need dlt for ib, reso matrix lightning
Well even now, she quite useless, even luna has more to utilise than her
Too much restrictions

she took 60x4 pulls from me to 3S her 
Even nathan when negative to s+ her
everyone else other than her literally had earlies
no biggie for a whel

@spiral merlin 

We will be checking all accounts next patch. Anyone who doesn't have S+ Bianca: Crepuscule will be banned indefinitely.
damn, im only aiming for sss 
should i turn vera back into an amp for this wz?
i m finally realizing that SSS Vergil was a mistake
shouldve gone for Bianca instead
Lmao another one to the list
hell i shouldve just skipped DMC alltogether
still getting vergil ss for completionist purposes
Now imagine the regret on all those people who skipped characters for them
oh those are brain damaged individuals
do not lump me in with them
I pulled for everyone, even SSS'd a few of them since the start of sync
currently i got SSS Qu, SS3 Luna, SSS Nanami, SS3 Ish, SS7 Wata, SS7 Pyroath
I mean i dont but imagine the amount of regret they gotta have
Damn i have brain damage for not pulling pyroath
speaking of monzano, a whole patch went by without her popping up lmao
im f2p sorry

Btw whats the rot for this fire wz, unable to hit that 5 mil on hero
https://youtu.be/VyWYFyl4VMc?si=a-GVUEpkta8BaLnx there is this lao called yommlao
i thought the gap would have been further. surprising.
still significant enough to determine your spot.
Leader: Vera
Starter: Lucia/Dante
Animation starter: Vera/Watanabe
Special thanks to @Ket-f1t for the song recommendation.
Song used:
inabakumori - Lost Umbrella
https://youtu.be/DeKLpgzh-qQ?feature=shared
tn-shi - Synthesis.
https://youtu....
/ volskylao
globlul and kr unfortunately skipped one week where she was supposed to appear, that's why it took so long
Finally monzano
Surely won't be skipped again 
Monzano isn't real
Just a collective hallucination
U dont count fire?
Ig but isnt it usually reccomended to do affixes (higher multipliers?)
Oh ts next nice
Fire is great tho
I hope it's boss + good weather 
Wata weather 
Kr had higher scores so hopefully
Ppc looks good tho
if i didnt get qu's sig I'd just have gotten wanshi's
Wtf
Over nana?!
And ofc queen vera
I mean, wanshi is higher prio over qu

should've told me that 2 months ago 
And if u pull gera sig u might offrate han or wanshi, so offrating is big win
Gera offrates go crazy
can you do plasma without pyroath's sig doe
No
💀
Thats despair in the making

Here u go, sig prio
vera gonna have to wait till next year cuz i also need nana's 😭
No nanami sig means no more than 580k cradle
Just swipe
And despair in pretty much many teams
i did im already in debt
How much
What patch did u swipe on
I hope u got good value packs aswell
last one but my mpa is still active
Gn sleep whel
no wonder my view count suddenly hit 900
it was YOU

222 
monzano never existed it was all a dream
how about
2.32.32.3 111 112 
idk prob 6.8m-7m
try getting 5m
yeah good idea

ty empress
question, im seeing people on physical do 3 red 1 yellow then green on solacetune
am i supposed to hit the ult button 3 times to do the second ult
what invest?
wtf whel
@still moat well after i see them being able to 6 red
and i dont have that much after that rot
for ss3 hanying and above she is default to using 3 red 1 yellow
press yellow before swapping out too
then ping do 3p blue then spam ult till available but dont accidently use the matrix orb when ult spam
and then enter ult1, ping 3 blue and tap ults
yeah but dont cosume the matrix orb
how do i not consume the matrix orbs when hitting ult button
the trick i use is to tap 3x and hold the third tap for 1st rot and 4x + hold the 4th tap for 2nd rot
i think im getting the hang of it
@young badge i might have to practice this
why does it look like the yellow isnt being pressed at all
it does
3 red then a yellow
on the first rot
the 2nd rot is full red
then do a yellow ping before u swap out
so that the next rot u only need to do 3 red
how do i do a training deal
what
is that custom training?
who u want to do deal
yea
i need to practice cause im not doing something right haha
What rank is your Solacetune
trial zone then training stage
SS rank Solacetune and SS3 rank Solacetune have a different rotation
sss
wtf whel
Should be able to play her SS3 rank rotation just fine
Although you do need to follow everything in order
@young badge do you have to dodge?
nah i dodge for swap in animation cancel
Does an account with ss dante have more value than an account with s parhelion?
just practice it on warzone
literally just 1 tap reset
value is arbitrary
any more context??

ss dante might* have more value from the fact alone he is limited collab
Better clearing ability for game modes.
dante only have usage in burn warzone
while ishmael can substitute as budget supports for your cope teams
he's a good fire cope
So, i should focus on the account with ishmael then?
Have to run a different build and rotation order but it works pretty well
no he isnt
lmfao
works
anyone is a good fire cope when you don't have the said fire
wdym? He functions perfectly fine as a subdps inbetween vera rots
I have ss3 pyroath and I scored more with SSS Dante lmfao
@young badge i think i found out what it was, i didnt have dlt on 🙁
Still less cost tho
brain in the fcking sewers
21kbc for SSS
Literally the cheapest SSS in the game
And even at a 10.5k invest
He has great enough off field and provides the ability to quick ult to function as a good qte bot for vera
and due to him not needing a sig set
Vera can get both the benefits of guin and shake
rippo
unironically performs really well
At similar ranks he doesn't even seems to be significantly underpowered compared to pyroath
@young badge simple swap, still needed to learn that mech ty ty ty
this is because the bar has changed
@still moat also ty as well ❤️
vera is now the main dps of fire team and lucia gets reduced to do 1 rot
azriel and bazriel 
DMC is a good sidegrade that is all
try comparing SSS dante vs ss3 pyro on empyrea era
Where cazriel
it is not close
u become Qazriel
Well it's a good thing it isn't and DMC brother's focus is the off field
Dante's optimal playstyle is to setup his next rot so every time he cycles he's faster

I honestly wish I didn't SS3 Pyroath if I knew dante was going to be this strong
Everyone undersold DMC hard to me ngl
I'm like top 30 wdym
bro tryna validate that dmc is meta lmaoo
because it is lol
what does u being top 30 has anything to do with replacing pyroath on fire team when she is just a sub dps
ok I have both hol up
Tops don't matter when only 2 players know how to play, especially in hero
ss3 pyro still beats ss3 dante, SSS dante is slightly better but again the bar is really low
What matters is the score
its mid at best
Pyroath's damage
You yazriel

amazing
this proves what
is like saying crepuscule is better than CW on lightning content
both does -shit damage compared to nanami
the bar is 6 feet below
If it's hat boosted

can u show vid how u do those rots instead of just screenshot?
or better, show vid of both runs in wz fire zone now
how about showing scores
VIDEO???
WHY U NEED VIDEO
I don't use reddit
diff guy
all yap no concrete evidence
were my scores for this week
jesus
for hero warzone
yea for sure man
that explains it
Seems to be the case
bro scores got beaten by nanamid
and u have sss dante
she a lightning unit, u have sss fire unit
u said he's better than ss3 pyro

Once leap wata comes out dante will be an even lower powergap with my calculations
Since he will have both guin and shake buffs
Nanamid
Easily
guin vera 
U SHOULD USE DANTE SSS PYROATH IS MID
The shred you get and rot speed increase from having a SSS tank brings substantial boosts

this guy is an amazing theorycrafter, totally no one has ever tried guin cottie vera before
tbh
4 eins vera shredding multiple zones
That vera I had was not fully hypertuned and I scored that much
makes sense
ur fire score is underperforming because u were in hero and vera was not fully HT'ed
thats totally it
azriel type 1 if you are being hostage
all im saying is, i want proof in vid. all that scores dont matter if we dont see the actual run
if i see n*ru level of run im going to scream
youtube.com/windbell or espada
wait fak ss3
uhh naively maybe have ss3 run
naive dalao
#kurogames #pgr #punishinggrayravenglobal #punishinggrayravengameplay #punshinggrayraven
SS3 R2 Pyroath SS cub
SS3 R2 Nanami
SSS R2 Scire
SSS R3 Lilith
Yay thx
goodluck and have fun 

Oh lmao I don’t have Daren upgraded or leaped
the bar is too damn low on hero wtf
daren in 2025
if use dante u will have 7m 

oh ye if no daren just use lilith and take +1s
i think my brackets mostly have 300ws
What's the res look like?
its insane
what if i say 333 reso
my bracket so bad no one can even go past 200ws 
what excuse are u gonna use
Both wata and Dante have 1 res atm
Kinda broke rn after dmc invest 🪦
but wata only need 1
so u think the difference between 2 reso of ss3 pyro and sss dante is 1m ?
I mean that is like what 45% final ATK?
its not 45% final atk
both have glorius as default 1reso
2 more reso is just incan and ML which the latter pyro cannot utilize well
and u think that will get u 1m more score ?
and even then thats the same score, i thought SSS dante 100% beat ss3 pyro
"sidegrade" excuse incoming
But if I'm getting just as good scores with dante over pyroath
That means yours would be even higher
I never said I have the best scores
rai can u water the tree
done babe
no u said SSS dante is better than pyro multiple times in this channel
SS3
Not SSS tbh
And that's just my initial reaction after seeing how well he performed for me barely trying at all
GOAL POST
making many mistakes and still got that good
is this real guys sss dante better than ss3 pyro 🥹 😢
i should've pulled for dante 🥀
They're pretty much equal honestly
u shouldve sss+ cante instead of ss3 midcia
now bro said theyre equal 
i agree dante solos plasma anyways
what is this joke
I'm in warzone rn
Looking up pros playing pyroath to see what I can improve in her rots
i dont play football,but if i play football,i wouldve inserted random footbal gif
SS3 Pyroath
There was never a debate between SS3 Dante
???
Now THAT is a cope option 
me when reading comprehension exam is coming
i cant read im a pgr player
omg it magmaguy
what did u just said?
i can read morse code investment 🥀

@huaxu please help
@grok is this true
correct me if im wrong but isnt that directly saying SSS dante is better than SS3 pyro
so why do u have lower score than ss3 pyro
that was before
@grok is dante better than pyroath
I learned some new tech that allowed me to score higher with dante
but u scored 4.8
an ss3 pyro scored 5.7
is the tech that allowed u to score higher with dante in the room with us
the flucc just killed it
An ss3 pyro scored isn't my ss3 pyro score
but that could be a bias
Meaning they can score more with dante than me for the sole fact they understand warzone mechanics better than I do
u could just unga bunga on pyro and lock in on dante and says dante is better
dante win, is jover
pyroath (lucia crimson weave)
but they are not the one saying dante is better than pyro
pyroath downgraded to cw 
i think yomm the only one that can settle this debate
but hes gatekeeping dante at ss0 with 120 shards 
i already knew SSS dante is better than SS3 pyro, but its just funny when u make such claim without being able to back it up
the true test is sss vs ss3 ybredangry
Lol
I wish I was good with pyroath
thats like saying i wish i was good with nanami startrail
i wish i was good with selena
i wish i was good 
ur always good habibi
mf ive been malding for an hour with this 
not this cliffhanger story 
wtf
i got too hooked
i deadass can hear that fckass bgm always playing in these video
Literally even as far as performance goes
how tf can gif go for so long
Its nice to have fast hand
peak fr
how did an entire movie fit into a gif
u fast hand 
it must be nice to have fast hand
Wait a min 
MY GOAT
That's dante btw 
in what
fire warzone
what invest
SSS

Previous score was Pyroath
SSS pyroath?
SS3
SSS Pyroath will score more
Fr
you gotta be playing pyroath with one hand or something
i play ishmael with one hand
I'm double ulting while waiting for vera on cd
understandable
i do it too
i play hanying and bianca with one hand

Especially with the new coating
I play everyone with no hands, only feet. Get on my level.
I play dante with one hand 
its peak
Biggest thing I noticed is I've been playing dante wrong this whole time
how can you play dante wrong
order of attacks
bro was using hat trick

u play for me


I'll play you?
Hat trick actually leads to a damage increase from what I've seen
how do you mess up the order?
It's a matter of when to use hat trick


guys i think he is telling the trusth
What if we just haven't discovered some random trick like vera and dante is actually stronger than pyroath
You hat trick at the end so your next rot is faster

or maybe he's just weak like u get powercrept L bozo
Isn't this a well known tech

Doing something at the end of the rot so you can get a faster next rot
Damn I feel like Patrick now

call bro a caveman
You do this with everyone in the fire team, wanshi in the ice team, hanying in the phys team, lilith in the dark team sometimes

tf are you doing with wanshi
I've seen it done on selena too
playing wanshi with one hand
the wanshi zaza
Technically his 12 bullet stacks transfers over to next rot

with the new skin i just might have to
how do you setup with selena 
You just 3p basic
clearly he doesnt do it with pyroath in plasma 

Idk the effectiveness on that though
well then technically everyones sp carries over to the next rotation
WAIT WHAT

Yeah I'm calling bianca to tell Solon to curse your fate pulls brb
I just 5 slash spam in plasma
dont care i could 100/100 all 10 copies
can u carry me
U right
its so peak
Hmm
when he shoots the bullets the letters spell out 'PURGE'
hes goated like that
I'll tell bianca to tell Solon to curse your wz breakpoints
Mid score
P
U
R
G
E 
Fund me bbi , i have to buy the skin
It was mid that was me in the middle of cooking not the final dish
P U R G E
its peak
mid skin for a mid character

wanshi skin is peak
qu skin is peak
didn't u thirst for wanshi
kuro so goated take my money
I might have to spend for this skin ngl

nanami has tainted my view on all other tanks, they all suck ass
【他们这东西还没修啊……-哔哩哔哩】 https://b23.tv/XKUeo8R
What is that thumbnail
My thumbnail thank you for asking
type shi

Interesting
Ws skin is peak , so i buy qu skin first


qus is great but doesnt compare
too bad ice team sucks
Like really boss zone 444 ,this week only 11m is max for them

aylas days are numbered
I really hate how waves don't spawn as I'm doing damage
im starting to get the hang of vera autistic rot
Leaped wata 
Animation cancel included in kit, shred field on qte
Now easy to use and sort of like nanagoat
Leaped wata rot is just
Swap in > ult > ba > hold dodge into parry > spam blaze > ult
That was stupid

is vera's orb gain rng or wtf
Wym
FINALLY BROKE 500ws WOOOOOOOOOOOO
I could definitely see myself scoring better with stronger knowledge on waving but atleast I got the rot down
the autistic rot 
It’s not its just your ba’s missing 
That one with the dodging thing?
If I mix one hat trick in there I feel like I can get 5.2m under same circumstance there
the one where u get 3p on first swap in
and do 3 rot on the last swap
Okay
Do that's out of my knowledge so far
I've only seen a different Geiravor rotation so far partially from Rydle and Gumball somewhere while I was looking for some video reference
@still moat @young badge, thanks again. no way im staying rank 2 haha
beware of snipers
I wish I was in legend so bad rn
Way
im just happy im hitting these numbers
they always snipe u last hour of reset
Hero waves are pain
i was kinda down about pgr ive spent way too much money to be getting 6 mils
What's your huaxu look like?
@frigid moth https://huaxu.app/na/players/17076558/characters i just picked the game back up right before ishmael
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DANG how much did that cost?!
whats ur recharge
i dont even have the 30000 recharge avatar frame
NICE 
Sir that is confidential information 

im excited for wanshi skin who else?
be proud of ur recharge

Mine is still below 5000rc
dude idek wtf is going on with vera orb generation
i dont understand the time thing in wz, it says negative time and at the end i have a better time
how does that make any sense
Negative is good
honestly proud how far I managed to come considering my priority is always stuff like
whel
i thought green was good
green is good
U progress wave earlier than before 
time counter scales with your highest score pretty sure?
Isnt negative green
ye
out of all zones
not the zone you are currently in?

this week is weird
Doesn't seem to be the case for me it's using my physical timings for some reason in fire
fire and ion have the same zone
my ion keeps throwing me off
so its using the same timer
thinking i am slow
but theyre not both in mixed zone lol
learning fire rotation helped me in my plasma team
Oh is it my ion that's doing that
yea
THAT MAKES SENSE
so you will see big timeloss and big timesave periodically
haiya
but the score is still the same right
I like how balanced my scores are
yea score not affected

bro istg vera orb generation is literal ass
5 is the number in the middle
vera seems fine
meaning I'm the most mid player ever
sss mind you though
She's cracked even at SS
How do I manage Bianca orb without signature
double dead
yeah
start with vera -> pyroath -> wata (lingya) -> Vera and that smooths out rot
That 5.8m was with Vergil lmfao
i just burnt her r2 weapon to give wantanabe r2 on his
Stigmata = 🗑️ now
shes only ss and dont think ill be investing in her now
i wish stigmata wasn't dead
im excited for the new bianca
now sss and r2 ur daren
she's meta for 5 more years
wdym ass
are you trying to do a double rotation with her?
cause she neither need DLT nor Cottie
she gain enough orb to do 1 rotation then swap
@remote fossil i think we get a free copy when bianca comes and daren will be sss
ok then
Hervor also helps if they don't have those options
obviously double rot
Damage will be lower but better than not doing rots
How to manage her orb without signature
but that's less score 

no sig is cooked
thats like 12 orbs gone
i just got the k pop idol skin for daren, free copy of a character confirmed when dark bianca comes?
u must be a madman to use walter without sig
i mean imma be honest most units are just straight up not built for double rotation
double rotation always required DLT on 90% of char
so not just vera but alot of unit would have trash orb generation if you want to do double rotation
her sig gives free 12 orbs per swap, and then u asked how to cope without her sig
cough Hanying
brother i have no issues with vera double rot
from the event, seems like spin the wheel like stigmata one
hanying also doesnt have orb issues with dlt
Yeah
vera double rot very smooth
- vera is the main dps of the team anyways so no point doing her single rot and bricking ur scores
++++++ sweating animation cancels
unless u dont got sufficient investment
why double rot? do you just not do Wata's rotation at all?
@remote fossil its a character selector though right? and its free?
pyro and wata single rot, vera double
no, vera rotation is very fast
another one to convert to shakes cottie
vera 2 rot takes like 10 seconds
yeah, unless they just want to fk global up, but i can say sure we will get it
im still a little confused on wata cause sometimes he be jumping around to get his ult
Wata's rotation is very fast
the 1st rotation that is
watching empress, didnt seem to have to jump around at all
it was like instant 3 red 1s
wdym jump around?
youre holding ba thats why
jumping around where
i remember in beta wata used to jump to the moon that was funny
ill be back to ask questions on that for now im fried from wz today
jumping in pgr is wack
I honestly think the reason my fire scores are so low comparatively is that my wata playstyle is cooked
you dont use the hold atk on Wata
swap in
ult
hold dodge - 3ping -basic attack
should have 3 blaze orb to spam
ult
i didnt even know
hold dodge 3 ping activate matrix
im about to dominate fire


which gain 1 blaze orb from matrix and 1 from bullet
yeah Wata rotation is VERY fast
he does for me
wata is freestyle for me i just do what feels right in the moment
if you dont have cottie
but you just shouldnt be running cottie anymore
i miss dps wata
i run shakespere and sig

if you run shakespeare then yeah swap in you have to use a bullet or do any ping
then ult
@noble zinc @true pivot how do u guys do the hold ba, release, dodge
do u hold for a split second then release for a while then dodge?
or dodge instant after releasing
are you talking about Wata? you just dont do the hold ba ever
like its too much dps loss
What builds do I run for ss3r1 pyroath and ss0 5* weap wata/vera? I have vera on dv rn
You have sig for wata?
@rugged raven thats a game changer lawd
ss0 5* weapon wata/vera…
f2p usually dont have sig
so oof
i mean i too can relate
if wata had sig he'd run davinci
vera
Isn’t Vera sig still higher prio
it is
Pyro and Vera sig both have high prio, since Pyro is in plasma team 
you dodge then let go of ba when you see the red bar go down and go back to holding or at least thats what works for me 
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u don't need to let go of BA
honestly i cant even tell what my fingers do when i do that rot
we're supposed to hold ba first before dodge wdym

hold BA, tap dodge when red guage gets consumed, repeat
no its for extra orb gain for 3 rot at the end
so the input is
ye then dodge and do the thing 
my fire and ice teams are kinda fried, surely Crepuscule saves dark
Walter 
ult 1 > ba > 3p > dod > ba > 3p > hold ba > release > dod > hold ba > release > dod > hold ba > ult?
bro just get dlt

I thought we only tap red orb twice, hold BA and ult 
ye seems about right, if vera is spinning her camera around then youre doing it right
when the red core drops
u were doing this dazzlao?
ye this one generate orb at 1st swap
You can technically do dps wata once his leap drops if he's overinvested compared to everyone else 
Since with his leap he can do consistent double 6 stack rots with dlt
the 3ba one
i'm S+ pyroath and vera
can play dps wata for fun 
Sweat double rot on everyone to max damage 
(Probably not possible and actually loses score pretty sure)

ye
just realized it makes him quick ult and hat trick faster
you should stream some fire wz
bet I'll be in vc
💀

i haven't rechecked this in a bit tho
i thought u updated this one 
its our holy text input 
Cant read, globlul gen
idk where im going wrong with the wave progression but somehow a successful autistic rot vera falls off later on in the run for me
how tf is my 1 tap score still the highest
why all the lao in vc
watching fire wz
i don't even remember atp 
need to check again
Hello cope-help
First score theory
Wanshi is useful in two teams, even 3 if you're playing Ampmael
Vera cub quite mid
If you already have Pyroath Cub, you don't necessarily needs to get Geiravor cub
You can just get a dupe of Pyroath Cub from ore shop and put it on Geiravor just fine
Or your Epitaph cub if you got it back then and no longer being used
Yeah, I was using demon free pet on Vera, and even that thing worked in a cope-f2p team to get 4.5 M
What's that
Yuan ye
That thing
And knocks out enemies
For wz bosses it's not that bad
Knocks out worms too
So you can prevent the worm from going underground
I actually forgot that I've been using that on my Geiravor
Peak PPC advanced pet
Okay I think I get it now
What are the memory resonance skills for all 3 Pianissimo, Solacetune and Echo again
Double checking
Dlt dlt and axial
Memory resonance skill
Is this for Pianissimo, Solacetune and Echo in order?
Yep
Okay thanks
Funny, I have Feyer's account in my possession. I think I'll copy his own gameplay 
i got 7.8 on fire and now after learning about the hold dodge on wata im not doing better im doing worse zzz
still streamung 
i should stream so people can tell me what im doing wrong
another time i suppose, thanks again for the help!
viewer ded
anything above 0 viewers is mega famous trust
Is pyroath slash ultimate ever used in fire rotation? I usually use one eclipse before switching
It's used in Fire team rotation if your Geiravor has insufficient investment to be the main Dps
You normally just eclipse ult and dip out
5 star or 0 resonance Geiravor
Alright, I heard Nanami can substitute for epitaph if he's at low investment, can she really though?
Then just eclipse and dip
How low is the question
It could work
What's your Epitaph investment
Zero (s and no signature)
Nanami has signature with one resonance and harmony
Nanami would be tons better
You can use Startrail Burn for a fire team tank
Just make sure you always do her Burn rotation before swapping out everytime
It's important
What would her build be though?
Otherwise she would just become lightning tank like usual
4sig 4dv
I use 4 Herschell and 4 Shakespeare on her
My Geiravor doesn't have her signature weapon, So her memory set is Davinci and Guinevere
Alright, thanks for the insight
No problem
Be sure to give him sig and SS0 atleast soon cuz he gets leap next patch
You can use Vouchers
I still have wanshi to get 3s on (currently ss3) and I heard epitaph is a relatively older character, do you think he'll still be worth going for by then?
Epitaph is getting a leap upgrade and will be available through the voucher shop because of that
His leap upgrade is mostly related to Darkflow affix
So based on the Darkflow affix performance, we can measure how much worth it is to invest on him further
Until then we don't have an answer for it
is next patch standalone?
No idea
I hope it's duo patch and it ends with Discord patch for CN
But it's not possible
So might be single patch ?
Then I'll gladly wait until we get an answer
Once again, thank you
Unless it's a duo patch with discord and Bianca while Veronica is in CN
damn i just want 3s wata already
Darkflow has 0 gamemodes if I'm not wrong
We have an anniversary banner right now
Just saying
get out
Veronica double whammy, light and df attacker
qu darkflow leap
why imagine when its real
Lightning/Glow amp
Highly possible knowing Liv's element spectrum
actually liv is ice since she already has an amp/support class for every element except ice
Whelfie said next patch bianca and discord, then on nov vero and liv, supposedly by nov, all servers already synced up
Should I upgrade the startrail to ss3 or get another character instead? Pls help 😅
Oi
Oi oi

What
that depends on your account silly man. how should i kknow
give huaxu link
yes yes
Oi everyone.
I got dante SSS and almost vergil SSS to
with weapon and cub.
Must i try to max them, or take the cub to max?
More like assumption
How many skipped units that is
Dunno, fabio also said it like that
And no
Save for Bianca Crepuscule
youre already overinvesting
any more investment into them is a waste
U max everyone
u should s+ and 3s cub
u can clear content easily 👍
Will recommend you to #📨・general-help
@quiet lily you too
Bye
Nuh uh
And who are u?
ezra u should know this better than us ur dmclao smh
Yes
haha i came back to the game for DMC event, so i want them as strong as i can, so the asking is more what's best for the meta, Them both SSS 3 or the cub sss and them SSS
No
You already overinvesting Collab units
Save for Bianca Crepuscule
Best for meta is none of them. Get everyone else insyead
Haha they are that bad ?
The fact that you came back for DMC Collab is already making you less of a meta player you know
Metawise, both of them are not worth pulling unless you are whale or someone with insane amount of black cards without skipping previous units
Overpriced character
Not bad, just niche
overpriced for what they actually are worth
Need their teammates with proper invest
If u want u can pull
You don't know what you're getting
There are already 10+ people in dmc regret puller list 
Their use is only in Ignition (Dante) and Ultima Slash (Vergil)
Haha i don't really play for the meta, but i just want them to be as strong as they can
anyways, CUB dupes are always lowest priority
going for cub dupes is an insane persons goal
Then why ask meta lol
.
They wont be strong if you ignore their teammates
Then u know what to do 
All in king
Also if you don't play meta then go to #📨・general-help since that's the casual player's help
S+ solo all content 
but even casual player would reccomend meta 😂
Also you need their teammates to make them useful
Yeah i must pull vera and i don't remember the name of the other for dante and for vergil i forgot xD
They won't
"I want them meta"
"I don't play meta"
You see the problem?
Forgot nanami
forcing the meta?
xD why is this community so toxic
haha yeah bad request, more like i want them to be the best they can ^^
You need at minimum
- SS0 R0 Vera Geiravor
- SS0 R1 Nanami Startrail
- SS3 R1 Hanying Solacetune
- SS0 R0 Alisa Echo

its ok altera we luv u
It's ok altera
We don't like you
alisa i got vera i will work on it same for nanami (i took pyro like a dumbass )









