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[noble zinc]

[fading elm]

no one's home ig

[noble zinc]

Sleep tomorrow morning ask

[zenith kernel]

[static ermine]

is dante or vergil better

[stark dove]

Does Hanying still need DLT for double rot if she’s SS3 in physical?

[formal radish]

Yes.

She runs out of orbs later in the run if you don't...

[viscid moon]

is hanying double rot valid in selena team (ss0 r1)

[formal radish]

Yes.

[viscid moon]

no time issues? i gotta check rot

[formal radish]

She needs alisa's lingya for extra orbs however.

[viscid moon]

all these vids with ss3 hanying
ye i have goat

[formal radish]

But it's possible to execute it under 10s if you're quick with it.

[visual topaz]

someone gib dalao hands plz

i threw last sec ult

[formal radish]

[stray siren]

Man, you are the dalao

[viscid moon]

is this ishmael time cheese or smt

[visual topaz]

potatolaon't

normal gb

time cheese was before the gb nerf 2 patches ago

we never had it on EU

[viscid moon]

i wanted to do that

[visual topaz]

NA got it twice during her patch

SEA once

[night ermine]

i only have ss nanami, for plasma is it better to wait on lucia to swap to lilith or swap instantly to nanami

[eager oasis]

Does vera run dps or support in wz

[formal radish]

MainDPS

What is your fire team investment?

[eager oasis]

Ss3 wata and pyro, ss vera

They all got sig and cub

[formal radish]

With resonance?

[eager oasis]

Yeah

Lucia even got two 🥰 wife

[formal radish]

Lucia: 4heraclitus 2cottie 2einsteina
Weapon Resonance: Glorious Afterglow

Watanabe: 4alphonse 4davinci
Weapon Resonance: Domain Deconstruction

Vera: 4Shakespeare 4Cottie
Weapon Resonance: Deadline Timing

[eager oasis]

Vera actually runs dps?

[young badge]

how...

[eager oasis]

So putting dv with eins/gui does not outdo it?

[eager oasis]

Huh...?

[formal radish]

Yes! Global discovered that Vera was much stronger than originally intended. The CN testers did not realise that she could do so much more than just holding davinci guin/eins. Thus, CN did not ask for a nerf.

[eager oasis]

Ur kidding right, lucia runs einsteinia?

Alrdy crippled? Damn...

[formal radish]

https://youtu.be/owjzDPJCQbE?si=avns1JWhj491mQHK for more details.

[formal radish]

Additionally, Lucia will only perform 1 eclipse rotation.

[queen pike]

do i need wata sig for fire rotation or is ss0 enough?

[eager oasis]

Im devastated

Any downsides running shakes on wata? I don't wanna refarm all for the whole team...

[formal radish]

No Davinci.

[eager oasis]

Rn lucia uses sig mems with cottie
Wata is sig memes with shake
And vera is sig memss with cottie

[rocky wedge]

no, as u can see I have to deal with this mf in my server ♿

[formal radish]

Inconsistent Application (due to watanabe only being to apply during his limited field time and on qte, which is inefficient due to Vera's damage spread)

[eager oasis]

Is that the average build or the sweaty legendary wz one

Id just like to stay in hero

[formal radish]

The 2 rotation Vera does with this build setup is slightly more difficult than her usual rotation, but it's worth it.

From my testing in a team with SS3 R1 Pyroath,
SS3 R2 Watanabe,
SS0 R3 Vera,

This week was about 4.5m. possibly more.

Due to unspecified reasons, Liv has entered testing mode, and may not reply to questions. Thank you for your patience.

[young badge]

[night ermine]

ss3 lucia fire rot is 1slash1eclipse?

[rocky wedge]

1 eclipse with dps vera

[regal ledge]

just for clarification does nanami igni mode work in fire?

[rocky wedge]

yes but it also gets off element nerf since burn dmg is not fire dmg

u can use her instead of wata though if u dont have him, she will still shred fire resistance

need to activate burn mark with her first tho which is easy

[night ermine]

should I get ss3 wata from the selector next patch? I know wata will be in voucher shop but 30 shards takes a while to accumulate

[leaden tinsel]

How does he do so much on the ice guy with this team xd i checked his profile and is ss3 ish ss3 vera and ss luna

[teal kelp]

What’s Dante harmo? 4shakes 4cottie?

[formal radish]

Oh is that Chrrye? I think he's my guildmate in LostSanity2.

[viscid moon]

https://tenor.com/view/ishmael-pgr-ishmael-pgr-pgr-ishmael-ult-gif-1272441815827538538

[leaden tinsel]

It's different name, eu server, was just looking at the leaderboards and saw it

[young badge]

luna cub good?

[wintry parcel]

Not much

[rocky wedge]

i think cause this boss can be off element nowadays, its very weak even for vera

unless its because of the void interaction, windbell or acaxi would know better regarding this

[gilded flint]

Did Kuro make vera dodge cancel rot for the first first vera swap harder?
Hopefully Im just skill issue

[young badge]

no?

[formal radish]

It certainly feels like

Due to unspecified reasons, Liv has entered testing mode, and may not reply to questions. Thank you for your patience.

[night ermine]

same, for some reason dodge does not work for that part

trying it out in training range, you have to dodge cancel the microsecond the animation starts or else the whole thing plays

[young badge]

what ion score for 2.32.33 this week

[normal sierra]

oy! das is me you talking about!

and ss3 ish can do 7s on knight and chaos, das why

[formal radish]

The great Henry Joe?

[night ermine]

i swear vera dodge cancel is as hard as lucia 5slash rot

[normal sierra]

I didn't do 7s chaos yet thou, not sure if I will have time to mald that

[formal radish]

For reasons I cannot disclose, Liv Empyrea will now be shutting down for an unspecified amount of time. Sorry for any inconveniences, thank you for your patience.

[astral bison]

can pyroath do anything in plasma without sig? i still havent gotten enough bc :(

[gilded flint]

@night ermine Wanna watch my runs for a lil so we can compare or confirm that its just skill issues

[night ermine]

Sure

[gilded flint]

In vc

[night ermine]

Nope

[gray beacon]

Omg is that da giga whel🤩

[sturdy nimbus]

Hey, I have base selector left, using it on ss3 Bianca is a good idea or not really? Ss3 Vera or nana also crossed my mind but Bianca better ig? https://huaxu.app/eu/players/17339172/characters

[normal sierra]

you mean old vera/nana? they don't have any ss3 skills, so ss3 on them is kinda useless

[sturdy nimbus]

I mean current really, Greiavor/startrail

[normal sierra]

wut selector is that? the whel shop selector?

[sturdy nimbus]

Blue tix

[normal sierra]

ohhh

[slender scarab]

I mean Bianca will be %100 on release anyway you don't really need base selector to pull her

[normal sierra]

I would keep it for bianca then, but wait for some cn know people, cuz I'm not sure how gut is ss3 bianca

[gilded flint]

@night ermine Thoughts?

[slender scarab]

unless you have a lot of blue tickets to spend

[night ermine]

For one the score is much higher than mine

[normal sierra]

but he wants ss3, not just ss, and that needs 2x pull

[night ermine]

i have around 3.9 mil

[gilded flint]

2.32.32 112 111

[slender scarab]

isn't the debut banner %100 no matter how many times you pull?

[night ermine]

2.322 111 111

[normal sierra]

ye, but if you use blue tickets for ss3, you save black cards for future chars

[gilded flint]

You can def reach the same score as me

Because this run itself isnt very optimized

[slender scarab]

yeah that's why I said unless you have a lot of blue tickets you can use

[gilded flint]

and dont have the time to do so

[sturdy nimbus]

Um I have like 50k

[night ermine]

Wanna watch me mald now?

[young badge]

yes ples

[normal sierra]

I had 36k today too, then went on some gamble mode on the blues

[young badge]

i want to watch pro player

[normal sierra]

but didn't get any early surprises, so I stopped at 51/60

[gilded flint]

Nah, time for me to drink coffee and get to studying
Have a nice day, you too @young badge

[young badge]

arrival?

[normal sierra]

nahh, standard banner

[slender scarab]

I pulled my 59/60 standard banner hoping to snipe something useful. Pulled capriccio unfortunately

[young badge]

rip

[queen pike]

do i need watanabe sig or can he work fine without it?

[frigid moth]

He can work fine without it but having his sig significantly improves his overall performance

[queen pike]

hmm alr ty! was wondering if i should make it a priority or not since im running low on cards

[eager crypt]

Is Gold banner a scam?

[frigid moth]

pretty much

never pull fate

[spiral merlin]

i pull fate

[reef dagger]

shoud i roll who now

[ionic smelt]

Of current meta characters, who absolutely needs SS3?

[final fog]

Hanying maybe?

All frames are functional at SS. SS3 is big dmg boost for some of them
Others get really good QoL changes like Hanying, Selena and nanami (i have those in mind)

[frigid moth]

rn? Selena, Solacetune, Startrail are like the 3 best SS3s in the game no question for me

Ok from my experimentation I can finally say

SSS Vergil actually kind of slaps

Very comparable to SS3 Selena in physical from my testing

Dante seems weaker than Pyroath overall tho if talking about element

He's just too slow

He's good for solo Vera playstyles tho

being a very cheap alternative to SS3 Pyroath

He might be more worth with a wata leap comp not sure yet tho

[warped axle]

SS3 selena claps S+ vergil wdym

[frigid moth]

That's not the experience I had

Have both so I can say for certain

[warped axle]

https://tenor.com/view/omni-man-wheres-mark-william-omni-man-meme-you-are-not-safe-invincible-gif-12200603688986882222

[frigid moth]

And I could of got way more out of Vergil since that was my first time using him in physical

I was super scuffed with Vergil and still was scoring more than my minmaxed selena playstyle

[wintry parcel]

If only it was actually reliable

[warped axle]

https://media.discordapp.net/attachments/867718398208245761/1168402145012359178/1108281401381507144.gif

[wintry parcel]

Who is even known to have SSS+ rank Vergil to know SS3 rank Pianissimo actually beats him

The SSS+ rank Vergil not present in the equation is quite a bit weird

[frigid moth]

Ok I did better with my selena comp after a rerun so I could take out another wave

Now to see how I can sweat with Vergil

They're suprising comparable tho ngl

Vergil has crazy off field going for him

[wintry parcel]

Once again defeated by design

Pianissimo can easily access double rotation with Cottie set in Physical warzone

But not Vergil in Physical warzone

[frigid moth]

why not

[warped axle]

carried by hanying

what vergin invest

[frigid moth]

He was deleting waves when I had him on field tbh

[wintry parcel]

Because too slow

[frigid moth]

SSS Vergil vs SS3 Selena

[warped axle]

his 2 rot is slow enough

[frigid moth]

Yeah compared to SS3 Selena, SSS Vergil is around a 200k score gap for me

Have noticed some tech I can utilize tho

But they're pretty comparable from my experience

[teal kelp]

what's dante ignition build with harmo

[frigid moth]

Vergil has a high skill ceiling tho

[teal kelp]

ok i dont have to change anything then

[frigid moth]

Seems like Dante is the weaker of the 2 brothers overall

Could prob score higher too with my fire comp

Safe to say around a 600-700k difference from SSS Dante and SS3 Pyroath

But I may just need to understand Dante's rots better

[round lake]

nah Dante better, bro is actually decent cope in Fire

[raw swift]

do i have to get dante / vergils cub? i heard dantes gives him new moves but what does vergils do

[round lake]

not a high bar though

[frigid moth]

Vergil is actually really good physical cope too tho

Like he holds up suprisingly well there

[round lake]

Dante CUB is quite gud, Virgil cub is barely a buff

[sturdy nimbus]

3s vergil also scoring similar to 3s Selena, not very much weaker

[frigid moth]

I doubt those claims but then again I doubt my mastery rn

[round lake]

the bros have really high self amp by themselves so their CUBs arent that big of a difference

[raw swift]

does vergils give any new moves or should i just go for dantes

[round lake]

nope just dmg

[raw swift]

kk , thx

[frigid moth]

SSS Selena should sweep no competition, but I can very much say that his SSS => SS3 Selena

[round lake]

it's from Firefly isn't it....

[frigid moth]

Go for Dante's

It's a way larger buff too

[sturdy nimbus]

That's 3s r1 vergil score, ss3 r2 Han, sss r2 Alisa

[sturdy nimbus]

Nah friend did It

[frigid moth]

HOLY

I can do that

[round lake]

32.33 Keklena can do 8m

[sturdy nimbus]

But he malded vergil to death

[frigid moth]

That's pretty good tho considering how much cheaper a SSS Vergil is by comparison

[round lake]

SS3 Keklena > SSS Virgil and cheaper

[frigid moth]

Oh I though SS3 was for solace mb

[round lake]

it is what it is

[young badge]

i saw ss3 selena 7.5m kekw

[round lake]

I'm using the average score as comparison, mald lord can probably 10m with 32.33 Keklena

[raw swift]

is this character bad i feel like the copies of her im feeding her to power up are doing nothing. she does like 1/20th the damage of dante

[round lake]

old A rank + only cope Dark tank she's there for the elemental shred only

[raw swift]

i made her ss rank but she still sucks

[rose yew]

She’s a six years old unit on cn

[round lake]

Dante uses Nanami Startrail as tank, copium Watanabe Epitaph or at worst Bridget

[raw swift]

how unfortunate. i like her giving me dashes

[round lake]

even at SSS+ rank, A rank base is still gonna lose to S rank

[raw swift]

what the hell am i doing

[chrome wind]

I think ss3 selena is still better than sss vergil in phys

[round lake]

they're meant to be cope units until you replace them with S rank

[raw swift]

thats very heartbreaking.

[young badge]

has always been

[round lake]

SS3 Keklena is barely weaker than SSS+ Virgil from what I've seen

nope I think she's better

[frigid moth]

how tf they playin her like that then?

[raw swift]

whatever. i will make her good no matter what. i will find a way.

[round lake]

333 Keklena team score 10m+
444 Virgil team also score 10m+
but if it's 344 Keklena, she'd definitely win

[warped axle]

no Keklena = bricked glacio

[round lake]

if you like No21, there's another version of her that's currently in the meta

half-meta but um...

atleast... she's more viable

[warped axle]

Ishmael better than car flexible-wise

well Fishmeal gives weaker buffs, but why invest on an old unit

[raw swift]

is it the one with the cat ears . i really hate cat people.

[round lake]

Ish pretty much does Feral, Kaleido and Daren job at this point

[round lake]

she's a wolf

[plain oyster]

Its just a frame...

[raw swift]

oh okay

[young badge]

even with 444 vergil u needa hella mald for that 10m

[raw swift]

i will replace vergil on my team and run them together then

[warped axle]

u would be a madman to be having S+ alisa

[round lake]

Virgil is meant to me a cope Phys unit anyway

the fact that he even works there is a feat on itself

[warped axle]

without selena, no glacio

[round lake]

[round lake]

bro likes No21

[warped axle]

we have exams tomorrow

[raw swift]

can i remove her ears with a skin

[round lake]

well early game is no issue but once you hit the harder contents you will see the problem

[rose yew]

[round lake]

not happening

[warped axle]

car, or dawg whatever

[raw swift]

they should add hats for characters so i dont have to see her ears

[sturdy nimbus]

With 112 reso? Idk I'm doing below 7, unless I'm skill issue'd or doing bad rot

[frigid moth]

I mean tbh she's called feral

[young badge]

32.33 under 7m?

[sturdy nimbus]

Ye

[round lake]

below 7 is definitely your issue ye

[sturdy nimbus]

[frigid moth]

yeah I have no idea how people score 7m

[round lake]

2.3 Keklena can already 7m

I could send a video as reference

[young badge]

7m is ss3 ceiling lol

[frigid moth]

I'm in hero so that might be it

But I can't even get close to that

[rose yew]

Here’s your feral without ears

[round lake]

oh no, dont guide him into more bricked units he can't handle them all

[raw swift]

oh yeah another question (sorry i keep asking). people are saying vergil is trash without his tool, so should i roll for it? or is it not important

[frigid moth]

Are those SS3 scores with SSS solace?

[young badge]

welcome to brickistan

[sturdy nimbus]

Do you have 32.33 ~8m vid?

[round lake]

all sig weaps are important for attackers

[frigid moth]

He needs it

[raw swift]

alright. ill get it. but geez, 2500 is a lot

[frigid moth]

Dante not so much but it's still nice for harmony and additional rots

Normally weapons are permanent to pull on so there's less rush

Collabs are the exception to this rule

[round lake]

cant seem to find it for this week

only have SS3 video

[frigid moth]

Is this week just a bad weather for it

Or was that 7m for today?

[sturdy nimbus]

Ss3 has different rot right?

[round lake]

different WZ but same rot
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wQl98W9NDac

pretty gud player just don't watch his DMC comparison

[rose yew]

[warped axle]

aint SSS use blue orb unlike SS3

[round lake]

bro played badly on purpose when it's in his DMC comparison videos

[frigid moth]

Looking at their post on Vergil's CUB

[sturdy nimbus]

Wait Alisa does Glacio rot?

[round lake]

ye she has no dmg anyway just do it fast to get out of the way

[frigid moth]

Worth it

[sturdy nimbus]

Ok guess I found my problem

[round lake]

SSS Phys never does Alisa phys rot

waste of time and dps loss

[sturdy nimbus]

Yeah it felt way too long

[frigid moth]

Physical warzone isn't bugged like nihil was right?

[round lake]

what bug

if u mean Nihil last week then it was ass because mob zone

[frigid moth]

apparently buff would expire even in the presence of tlc or something

but having a bad mob zone definitely helps too

After seeing firefly's way of playing physical Vergil I realized I've been playing him wrong this whole time and still got that score hol up

[astral bison]

https://youtu.be/9_uNUzmI32M
how does acaxi get selena first ult in 6 seconds on skych knight? no matter how fast i cancel it, it always says 7 seconds for me

[crystal rune]

Because you’re slow

[astral bison]

if I do it faster than im doing now the game just eats my inputs

[chrome wind]

Is this correct reso for alisa?

[wintry parcel]

That works

[astral bison]

ts has to be input delay cuz there aint no way

[chrome wind]

I removed dlt because she only do 1 rot

[quiet lily]

show how u do it

[wintry parcel]

Echo has never done more than 1 rotation since her debut

Only Glacio

[chrome wind]

Does this work for ss0 hanying?

[frigid moth]

WTF

OK VERGIL IS INSANE NGL

[round lake]

yes but u definitely need Lingya on Alisa

[frigid moth]

I have 0 regrets investing into MOTIVATION

[round lake]

also one f up move and Hanying double rot is ruined so have fun

[frigid moth]

Actually getting more than my plasma team is kinda crazy

[odd roost]

30k+ investment on any new unit will probably make them insane too

[frigid moth]

tbh that's like most of my units

[chrome wind]

Tried it no orbs for hanying second rot lol

[odd roost]

Fuuuuccccckkk hanying.

[astral bison]

it was input delay actually
apparently I have been recording for the past 6 hours

[quiet lily]

input delay cant be that bad though

[astral bison]

a few milisseconds is bad enough

[round lake]

Snazz had a video for that
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EGr6YE56b8E

[quiet lily]

then without recording, u manage to get 6s ult?

[chrome wind]

Ik that

[astral bison]

yeah

[chrome wind]

I mean this rot if ss0 hanying can do this

[round lake]

this is just the tip of KILL HANYING agenda

[round lake]

then nah

[quiet lily]

all good then, time to be faster on the kill

[round lake]

3 extra orbs too big

[chrome wind]

Tried it no orb

[quiet lily]

wtf no dlt

[chrome wind]

I have dlt it just dint activate idk if its possible to do it

[quiet lily]

oh wait ss0

[chrome wind]

Yep

[spiral merlin]

[quiet lily]

u need to to do alisa - hanying - selena then

u cant do like ur vid

alisa lingya 3p swap to hanying

[chrome wind]

Yep i just tried sss rot lol

[quiet lily]

ye sss rot wont work

[chrome wind]

Can ss3 hanying complete this rot?

[quiet lily]

yes, she get set of orbs iirc

yep 3 orbs upon swap in

[warped axle]

what's more worth? mpa or BP?

2500 cub tickets, some echo shards and 8k vouchers

vs 3.3k BC

[quiet lily]

mpa

grats

[vague nebula]

how does it feel to be neglected by the devs u support so much btw?

[crystal rune]

[raw swift]

@vague nebula pain but I endure it for my Love Selena

[vague nebula]

at least u have something working for u

[quiet lily]

damn theres actually more than 1 selena lover

[vague nebula]

there r lot. she won eden fest

[quiet lily]

they all ded now its been years

[raw swift]

I have all of her 3 frames at SSS with Sig with at least 2 reso

[vague nebula]

[warped axle]

can we convert this to $ rq

[vague nebula]

why she so flat in this image

[warped axle]

where is this

[frigid moth]

You don't want to know 💀

[crystal rune]

Like 2100

[raw swift]

@warped axle a TF2 fan in gacha game community? Unexpected

[white oriole]

Is this good enough for 2.322 111 111?

[frigid moth]

but if you insist

[frigid moth]

Seems fine

[warped axle]

https://tenor.com/view/accept-tf2-call-solder-mge-gif-15493589622082641537

[frigid moth]

[warped axle]

bro 😭🙏

idk if I should spend in this game, I might lose purpose lmao

[frigid moth]

I got dante's too

[solemn spoke]

best sticker

[frigid moth]

was it worth it?

[warped axle]

allat for a sticker

[solemn spoke]

now max invest both

[warped axle]

I alr dropped 2 dollars on my wallet to prepare for my big spend next patch

[frigid moth]

Yeah no I'm satisfied I play for sticker meta

[solemn spoke]

whel

[warped axle]

just need $8 more for Feral pass

then I would have to drop $4.5 for MPA 😭🙏

[frigid moth]

Ok Vergil slaps

I have learned the animation cancels, I'm satisfied

[warped axle]

how to btw, might use for TS

[frigid moth]

neutral dodge

[warped axle]

on where tho

[frigid moth]

Mainly on intro

It can save a second in rots

basically for true slash

you fill his sdt before going off field

so when you swap back to him you can dodge cancel into sdt JC

[fervent elm]

Why is 36 waves only 5.2m?

[quiet lily]

mobs

[mighty tusk]

Because it's mob zone

Mob = less score

Boss zone = higher score

[formal radish]

Liv Empyrea AI is now back online.

Booting...

[formal radish]

My mortal enemy

[distant wren]

Oh no such a rare species

[frigid moth]

Mob zones are trash that's why

Can't wait to see my teams on a boss zone

[formal radish]

Do you guys say pwo as peewoah

And pwowq as peewoke

[distant wren]

Pee wow q

[quiet lily]

[crystal rune]

Pwoke

[formal radish]

I used to say that too

Not pwoke the peewowq

[quiet lily]

pee wooo

[formal radish]

Very interesting experiment, thank you for your participation.

[crystal rune]

Pwoke sounds thr most natural

[quiet lily]

then where our payment

[formal radish]

I'll pay you guys back with IB updates

[quiet lily]

[vague nebula]

just eat my cooking

a better way to pay

[formal radish]

I would rather die

A less painful death

[true pivot]

pak-woah-q because i cant read

[formal radish]

What in the pak

-# woahq

[mighty tusk]

You guys are too busy trying to pronounce my name as if it's actually a name

[distant wren]

Pee pee

[noble zinc]

[mighty tusk]

[quiet lily]

https://imgur.com/kWwuMbd

[noble zinc]

Finally got my free wifi I'd pass

[quiet lily]

u can pgr in class now?

[quiet lily]

ur doxxing urself btw, delete

[noble zinc]

Means?

[quiet lily]

it shows ur location

[noble zinc]

You think I'm that dumb

[rose yew]

11mbps for game download is kinda

[quiet lily]

[rose yew]

VPN aboose smh

[quiet lily]

ye 11mbps nuke gonna download pubg mobile

[noble zinc]

It shows some random location when location switch is turned off

[quiet lily]

so next speedtest, the location could be in china?

[noble zinc]

Mine better

[quiet lily]

yooo thats insane

[noble zinc]

[formal radish]

As an AI, I am the wifi.

[quiet lily]

Ok download more ram for me

[formal radish]

How much

[quiet lily]

6.9 is enough

[formal radish]

Before continuing, please confirm your IP address

[quiet lily]

3.03.03.0 333 111

[noble zinc]

good bracket

[formal radish]

Successfully downloaded 6.887GB of RAM in your PGR team. Enjoy!

[zenith thorn]

thanks for leaking your ip kid
im going to hack your account
say bye bye

[quiet lily]

Im gonna lose my robux

[fervent elm]

Not to mention that terrapod wannabe stunlocked my wanshi for 3 seconds earlier 😭

[formal radish]

Don't worry bae you're safe

I already hacked into your account first

[quiet lily]

Im safe

[opaque ridge]

444.333.111 got your ip address, you’re bricked

[quiet lily]

Liv got my back, u late haxor bozo

[noble zinc]

@pine slate hero or legend?

[pine slate]

Legend

Demote tho

Skill issued

[noble zinc]

2taps 5.78 this trash mobs scatter

lucia wata can't hit all

[frigid moth]

I think I've malded enough now

[quiet lily]

Need 3 bike

[frigid moth]

Maybe tomorrow I'll mald and cope more

btw is it better to 3 ult with vera over 2?

[pine slate]

I'd let nuke mald on my acc if he wasn't mobile

[pine slate]

3 ult vera at the last swap in afaik

[quiet lily]

U dont have kuso login?

[pine slate]

But u can only do that if u did autistic rotation for her first swap

[pine slate]

I do, the email login?

[frigid moth]

yeah I did that into a pyroath slash near the end and still came up less than my dante score

[quiet lily]

Yep

[frigid moth]

but then again I might just be bad lol

[noble zinc]

I'm getting laptop within next 2 your I'd mine then

Mnth

[pine slate]

2 month too long

[quiet lily]

Mf sending fingers in middle of text

[noble zinc]

[noble zinc]

Take my cub make your virgin cub SS

[frigid moth]

ok actually looking at the top scorer's invests make me happier ngl

The fact I'm scoring better than some of these hyperwhales with a collab character 💀

[quiet lily]

donate all ur virgin cub then we can make cub sss

[frigid moth]

i wish this game has a trade feature

I have to stare at this every time

[formal radish]

Scrap ot

[frigid moth]

oh wait u right

forgot that was a thing lol

[quiet lily]

[wise axle]

[solemn spoke]

[stuck berry]

Who else should I get with the characters I already have? Or should I get lucia for her SS3?

[quiet lily]

why u dont have selene

[fading kestrel]

you need a hanying for your vergil
without her, vergil becomes useless

[pine slate]

Imo ss3 nanami > pyro > hanying

Ye you'd want ss3 hanying for Vergil tho

[ripe stag]

Still struggling

[river nymph]

[ripe stag]

Anyone got Veronica ppc video

SS0 Pyroath

[noble zinc]

Espada old video see

[boreal lynx]

is alisa supposed to have gs and super axial

[boreal lynx]

and if so whats the prio

[mighty tusk]

superaxial for consistency

[boreal lynx]

oh not both?

[mighty tusk]

both

[quiet lily]

both better

[mighty tusk]

I thought you have r1

[boreal lynx]

haven’t got any i didn’t know if i should save resos or not

[quiet lily]

r2 is like min invest for amp anyways

[wintry parcel]

You probably should

[boreal lynx]

i aint know when she was gonna be replaced

[boreal lynx]

should what

[wintry parcel]

Should save it

Weapon resonance is hard to come by

Unless you're that stacked with weapon dupes or the resonance material item from somewhere

[boreal lynx]

i have 3 resos and i can get rid of ferals sig since i have sss ish with r2

[quiet lily]

bound to happen but thats what to expect when youre playing meta

[wintry parcel]

Do you mind showing me a screenshot of all of your signature weapons from your item menu then

I might be able to point out other better alternative than Echo signature weapon

[wintry parcel]

Close enough

I would assume Geiravor and Pianissimo signature weapon already have 1 weapon resonance skill at least

[boreal lynx]

vera has 2 selena has 1

[wintry parcel]

You can get 2 resonance on Startrail if your Crimson Weave isn't SSS rank

[boreal lynx]

sss+

[wintry parcel]

Can I assume you have a built Dante then

[pine slate]

[boreal lynx]

ss3 with r1

[gusty stream]

Why doesn't Alice have any resonances?

[wintry parcel]

Because he hasn't reached the point that he should be putting some to Echo just yet

But in this case he already got to that point

[wintry parcel]

You can safely give your Echo 2 weapon resonance

You can keep the rest for 2 resonance Crepuscule

[boreal lynx]

alr ty

[ripe stag]

SS3 Dante is actually ok in fire

He has damage

Ofcourse that's only when compared to SS0 Pyroath

His QTE damage being the main part

[wintry parcel]

Having only low rank Feral with a SSS rank Parhelion is kinda sad

[boreal lynx]

got feral from the cw pass

[wintry parcel]

That make sense

Being not available in the Voucher shop to this point is a sad thing for Feral Scent

[ripe stag]

He was bound to die

So it makes sense

[wintry parcel]

New generation of Amplifier is already rolling out but Feral Scent still remains premium only

[ripe stag]

I'm hoping Liv is somehow Lightning Amp

[quiet lily]

who have sss ishamel?

[boreal lynx]

🖐️

[quiet lily]

imo just reso fodder that feral sig then

[ripe stag]

I don't have ish

[quiet lily]

youre not gonna use her when ishmael just become amp

[boreal lynx]

i was gonna save it till im out of resos since i still use feral sometimes in ppc

[quiet lily]

do note that it might brick abit on tifa/cradle for ppc

ye thats the only thing that keeping feral alive

u can hold it then

[ripe stag]

I mean you can still use feral in ppc if by chance Ishmael is already used

My Empyrea still seeing use in ppc

[quiet lily]

ye thats the risk if u sack feral, theres a chance where ishmael not available

empyrea is only good bcs of her leader passive

[ripe stag]

Single QTE 4 guin 4 Samantha proc

[quiet lily]

i cant even sack her sig yet bcs i need her for ib

[ripe stag]

Feral does it faster imo

[quiet lily]

her 2nd proc is slow

[mighty tusk]

damn, leader is cooked

[wise axle]

Vergilless so my true slash team will be permanently bricked why am I broke

[quiet lily]

damn u the first person in lb that dont pull dmc

[river nymph]

[mighty tusk]

[quiet lily]

just get ss0 vergil

[slate gull]

no

[wise axle]

Last week IB I can afford to not do the TS node. Not sure about the future

[quiet lily]

surely we're safe from dmc now

[frigid moth]

at the very least I'm safe from further bricking now

and so will everyone else 👍

[mighty tusk]

I'm fairly safe in IB TS tbf

[quiet lily]

glacio abuser

[mighty tusk]

I'm definitely gonna be using selena on IB TS

[quiet lily]

must be nice to have usable s+ char

my s+ char is only for me to unlock whel shop

[frigid moth]

wait if I SSS+ wanshi can I get shards for other s ranks theoretically?

[formal radish]

Theoretically.

[frigid moth]

What's the conversion rate like?

[formal radish]

Ask the whales

[wise axle]

3:1

[frigid moth]

Dang that kinda good lowkey

[wise axle]

Weapons too

Normally weapon dupes I’ll just use it as resonance fodder

[formal radish]

Everything's a 3:1 atp

[frigid moth]

so 90 wanshi shards would be like an SS3 for another character NICE

might consider that over SSS+ the voucherable units

[wise axle]

Yeah probably. Cubs are 3:1 too but I don’t have sss+ cubs so idk if we can actually recycle that

[frigid moth]

CUBs can be scrapped

[pine slate]

If only characters can be scrapped

[quiet lily]

can i scrap u

[remote fossil]

If this can be refund, it's not gonna be gacha, no?

[formal radish]

Dazzal is on lock u can't scrap hom

[quiet lily]

[formal radish]

I just realised

Now that the dalaos are gone nobody really reacts anymore except for bricks

They were the ones who used the react

[boreal lynx]

is dantes cub worth it

[frank kindle]

[nova forum]

hai what's the benchmark score for knight-hell skych with 32.33 122 111 phys/slash

[quiet lily]

can try 8910

add +1/2 sec if not ded

assuming u have selena 4patton blue atk reso

[nova forum]

nope

[quiet lily]

then make it

refer setsu sheet

[boreal lynx]

selena needs patton?

[quiet lily]

sss ib/ppc set

[nova forum]

it's too niche bro

[frank kindle]

2.32.33 222 should be able to 9/9/12, at worst 9/10/12

So 32.33 should be just better

[nova forum]

can i just cheat and build bottom ht set for her

[quiet lily]

can try

but the blue reso though

[nova forum]

oh w8

i think i could just repurpose my a2 build

[quiet lily]

just swap in 3p hold ba blue and see how much hp left

[nova forum]

what build is it? 6blue 6atk?

[quiet lily]

yep

4burana 4 patton

[nova forum]

nvm i'll repurpose my balt set

[ripe stag]

Now having wings and guns is Nero reference

Just like how being a katana user is Vergil reference

Next what? Using memes is Dante reference?

[nova forum]

i'm doing something mad wrong if i can't get lower than 10s on chaos

[chilly glade]

royal guard

[pine slate]

https://tenor.com/view/bean-mr-bean-mrbean-mister-bean-misterbean-gif-13531144831983068950

[noble zinc]

[obsidian dune]

dead chat

eos

[deft apex]

U killed it

Murderer

@ mods we have a criminal here

[frank kindle]

Everyone asleep or at work

[obsidian dune]

u not sleeping

[frank kindle]

Cuz its 11am for me

[quiet lily]

its 5pm

[frank kindle]

Thus im at work rn

[quiet lily]

[mighty tusk]

more like dmc patch did not save pgr glb

[frank kindle]

Even more laos left after dmc 😭

[quiet lily]

bro look at #combo-challenge theres a million of submissions

[obsidian dune]

single patch killed the game

[quiet lily]

[obsidian dune]

its withdrawal symptoms chat

[golden nacelle]

[obsidian dune]

[mighty tusk]

of more motivated combos?

https://cdn.discordapp.com/emojis/1145196677117005924.gif?size=48&animated=true&name=selenastab

[quiet lily]

peak combos

yall rotation spammer only know one sequence smh

[obsidian dune]

[mighty tusk]

"only know 1 combo"

kudos to those who make their own

[quiet lily]

[obsidian dune]

giving off this energy

[quiet lily]

ohh this the guy that saying complaining abt cryo

[rocky wedge]

if u SS dante, yes, if not and u have nanami startrail - no

[mighty tusk]

funny

[young badge]

this whel bracket slaccing

[fading elm]

what is recc investment for vergil and dante and who is better/provides more value overall? (have vergil at ss)

[jovial current]

what Dante's sdt orb is better for igni rot, yellow or red?

[quiet lily]

sss+

[frank kindle]

@noble zinc u joining my bracket today?

[ruby onyx]

what are the memories for lilith, pyro, and startrail in plasma beam?

[frank kindle]

Ppc or wz

[ruby onyx]

wz

[young badge]

does hanying need sig memo for ppc/ib run?

[quiet lily]

if she doesnt need to come on field, then no

[frank kindle]

4dv 4 guin lilith
4hershell 4 heisen nana
4heraclitus 4cottie pyro [ can 2 wilde but diff is barely there ]

[quiet lily]

wilde needed though, very big diff imo

[rocky wedge]

blue, red u use to hit the ground faster after his ult in demon form

https://youtu.be/9ydNqBl7Vdo?si=e6huJsERevCJs6Og

[jovial current]

SDT is Devil From

[frank kindle]

U can get stunned tho

[rocky wedge]

oh xd red, yellow better if there is no enemies present or if u have a problem with one jumping on that specific wave

but generally its better to just spam red

[quiet lily]

u sure u playing her correctly?
never have i ever get stunned bcs shes just non stop iframing though

[rocky wedge]

i managed to do a 3rd ult for dante + 1 nana ult to finish the run from just swapping off dante immediately after his rot finished

[raw swift]

do I need to get nanami sig weapon?

[rocky wedge]

yes its more important than dante's

[obsidian dune]

non stop iframe but still gets hit by veronica

[rocky wedge]

way more important

[quiet lily]

i didnt get the 99%

[obsidian dune]

fak u used the shield reso?

[quiet lily]

nope

[obsidian dune]

[raw swift]

is it wise to drop 30 pulls for her sig weapon? (I just started help)

[obsidian dune]

this game is discriminating against me

[quiet lily]

but ye ive heard abt pyro ion mode just losing hp out of nowhere

[rocky wedge]

DoT dodge doko

[quiet lily]

u noticed it alot before lilith debut

[rocky wedge]

@brisk copper

[quiet lily]

when daren nanami pyro was a thing

[rocky wedge]

https://tenor.com/view/rina-tennoji-rina-tennouji-dance-dance-moves-funny-gif-26534489

[obsidian dune]

espada used it for knight and it was 10s

daren still meta for ion

[raw swift]

up, anyone?

[quiet lily]

maldy af, just s+ lilith wantap 10s is better

[rocky wedge]

yes

[quiet lily]

imo yes

[obsidian dune]

fund me for s+

[rocky wedge]

are u new new or returning to old acc?

[raw swift]

new new just started 3days ago

[rocky wedge]

if new then u will have a lot of BC spare so its ok

[raw swift]

f2p also if that helps

[quiet lily]

where ur vouchers, stop spending on useless unit like wansht

[rocky wedge]

and nanami is one of the more important characters so getting her sig will help a lot

[obsidian dune]

22k rn

[quiet lily]

rip no sync income

[rocky wedge]

not a problem with this game, just need to avoid throwing bc at the wrong banners

[raw swift]

Thank you so much

[rocky wedge]

like i would advise u to ignore DMC if u wont spend

[obsidian dune]

im forced to save for wata fk male characters

otherwise i be buying resos

[rocky wedge]

and dont even look at the other banners that arent Themed, Weapon or cub banner

the standard char and weapon banner u can look at when u have gained enough free blue tix to pull on there

[simple dew]

will wata still be 4 alph 4 da vinci after leap

[obsidian dune]

yep

[rocky wedge]

no idea

[quiet lily]

wata leap have released?

[obsidian dune]

well i dont imagine anything changing

[rocky wedge]

i dont think so

[raw swift]

is non of the dmc characters meta?

[rocky wedge]

shouldnt assume x) beta is always wildly diff than release bruh

[obsidian dune]

[quiet lily]

[simple dew]

meta in affix content

obsolete in elemental contemt

[raw swift]

thank you 🙏

[rocky wedge]

https://www.bilibili.com/video/BV1CUGqztEdi/?spm_id_from=333.1387.upload.video_card.click here is even proof, go try and do that with S rank dante now xd tho thats v1, the other versions he wasnt as he is now

and never forget hyperreal with timestop ult 1

release version he did not have that x)

[simple dew]

should i change watas ult reso to class reso

[rocky wedge]

beta is made for testing, use release version to come to conclusions

[sick flower]

yes for sure

[obsidian dune]

i thought they test alot of versions already

but ye

youre right

[rocky wedge]

beta is meant to create the "ideal" release version

[quiet lily]

[rocky wedge]

in some games u will find the last ver of beta is same as release, but in pgr its not like that

in my opinion i think it should be this way, because a beta is not meant to be the final version xd

its meant to test what the final version should be like

[obsidian dune]

so devs just cook themselves after all that testing

[simple dew]

ig we will wait 2 days to see

[quiet lily]

at least dont change everything after live

like what they did with bianca

[rocky wedge]

ye its always quite diff, but its good or it would be too broken

[quiet lily]

but ig thats considered a bug

[rocky wedge]

hyperreal with timestop on ult 1 was pretty broken

[obsidian dune]

what they change

[rocky wedge]

at least at that time he was released

if u think logically it makes sense why some of these things dont make it

[quiet lily]

kuso becoming thanos

https://tenor.com/view/thanos-perfectlybalanced-gif-18301221

[simple dew]

biancas ult could kill like 5 waves

or smth

[obsidian dune]

wut

[rocky wedge]

this game is too unstable to ever be this xd

[quiet lily]

but they forgor nanami

[obsidian dune]

they learned their lesson after not nerfing affix dmg

[quiet lily]

oh ye bianca ult wave chaining was nerfed, weird interaction iirc

[quiet lily]

too busted

[obsidian dune]

no more wave chaining?

[quiet lily]

just normal 1-2 wave chaining

like normal construct

[obsidian dune]

the dmg carry over thing?

gone?

[simple dew]

what rots do i do with 32.32 112 111 fire

[quiet lily]

kinda, i didnt pay attention much when they share abt it in office kek

[obsidian dune]

damn solon didnt even spare his wife from nerf

even then dark hitting bonkers score without -3s tank

[mighty tusk]

now it's the strongest in IB

[wintry parcel]

That's how you actually do a Gen 3 Attacker I guess

[quiet lily]

now imagine what would happen if dark tank debut

[obsidian dune]

veronica when

[quiet lily]

imagine next dark tank just qte bot and then ppl just use ishmael instead

[obsidian dune]

[near yoke]

I doubt veronica would be dark tank

[simple dew]

dark went from 2nd worst team to one of the 3 best ones

[sick flower]

it doesnt work like that

[quiet lily]

bruh everything is possible

[obsidian dune]

then what would it be

[warped axle]

light amp

[quiet lily]

phys amp

[warped axle]

[obsidian dune]

[orchid owl]

[young badge]

veronica dark attacker bianca powercreep

[warped axle]

goodness gracious

[quiet lily]

my alisaaaaa

[near yoke]

Lighting attacker probably

[orchid owl]

We need a new phys tank
Hanying is doodoo

[warped axle]

such words we cannot allow

[obsidian dune]

i cant see veronica being light attacker ngl

[wintry parcel]

Considering what they did with Geiravor, they would probably gonna prolong the Dark tank debut even longer just to release another broken Tank unit in debut reaching Powerscale of Startrail on debut

Let's play a guessing game

[quiet lily]

u know light attacker spot is already set for that certain someone though

[simple dew]

veronica lightning amp burn

[near yoke]

Understandable

[obsidian dune]

alpha

[wintry parcel]

Of how long Scire would still survive until she's gone for good

[warped axle]

brick

[young badge]

another year

[obsidian dune]

they gonna milk the shi out of alpha

[warped axle]

when I finish college

[quiet lily]

yep thats what i was thinking too, they are doing this sht very carefully now lmaoo

[obsidian dune]

its crazy how they didnt learn from startrail and then released gei

[near yoke]

I just want feral to be replace

[wintry parcel]

You should try to dropout of college now and see if they will kill Scire on the spot or not

:D

[quiet lily]

i mean, even cn didnt know gera was that busted

they would still slap dv guin for all invest if it isnt for rydle's testing

[obsidian dune]

like u can use her as subdps anywhere

shi is not balanced

[warped axle]

startrail is broken, irreversable damage.

[quiet lily]

now shakes cottie propaganda have starting to spread

[near yoke]

I still use her support build

[warped axle]

geiravor on ice weak and she still rocks the hella outta bosses 💔

[obsidian dune]

rydle 10 mil burn with ss3 nana and s+ gei

like wtf is this

[quiet lily]

he also did 7m void with 2.3 ish 4 gei

[near yoke]

Still crazy to me that dark almost hit 20mil

[obsidian dune]

yea i saw that too

[wintry parcel]

Is it gonna be the first base element to hit 20m score?

[obsidian dune]

u know its a problem when u need 3s luna to outdmg 3s vera on void

[near yoke]

Yup

[wintry parcel]

Last time I've heard of any of the base element team score, fire had the highest at 15m only

[white oriole]

Is there a way to calculate WZ score without finishing it?

[quiet lily]

2s luna is just doodoo

[wintry parcel]

No

[young badge]

No

[quiet lily]

my 233 void is loona dv too

[wintry parcel]

Warzone score is increasing with each waves and enemies HP scale

[obsidian dune]

same

[near yoke]

Someone on cn hit 19mil with fire

[simple dew]

when tf

[sick flower]

veronica will be nihil

[quiet lily]

had to follow xale zaza

[wintry parcel]

No way you can calculate that even for an average score

[white oriole]

I wanna see my score to prepare sniping

[warped axle]

💔💔💔💔

[wintry parcel]

What investment you have then

[white oriole]

What if I know which wave I'm on?

[near yoke]

It on bilibili

[quiet lily]

why are u sniping though

[wintry parcel]

We can just assume a score based on your investment from looking by the past warzone record on a mob zone

[white oriole]

Legend 🥀

[quiet lily]

just score high to the point that they cant follow

[wintry parcel]

True

[young badge]

fak

[quiet lily]

[simple dew]

what score should i get with 32.32 112 111 fire

[white oriole]

Phys 2.322 111 111
Fire 232 131 111
Plasma 233 131 111

I'm thinking 5m 5m 7m

[simple dew]

sss nana and wata but not ss3 pyro

[young badge]

phys 6m+ doable

[white oriole]

No that's both Nanami xdd

[near yoke]

I'm sure ignition can hit 21 - 22mil

[wintry parcel]

I think that plasma can get way more than a 7m

[quiet lily]

nah plasma scores is cooked this week

[wintry parcel]

Is it SS rank Pyroath or SS3 rank again?

[simple dew]

mob zone

[quiet lily]

plasma and fire cooked bcs mobs

[near yoke]

Wz ain't so good this week

[young badge]

plasma should be less?

[simple dew]

mob plasma is awful

[slate gull]

agenda by kuro to make dmc pullers feel good

[shy jackal]

First time I saw it was here

https://www.reddit.com/r/PunishingGrayRaven/s/In5cgrmntm

[white oriole]

SS

[simple dew]

oh wata leap

[shy jackal]

Ye

[warped axle]

absolute goat

[simple dew]

[near yoke]

Goated wata

[shy jackal]

19m bc wata leap

A whole 2m score increase

Turns out having large radius consistent shred field helps a lot

And some decent damage kek

[near yoke]

I'm sure someone will break 20mil

[shy jackal]

Maybe

But rn fire is a top scorer in cn

[white oriole]

Does Wata Leap make him better than Nana now?

[shy jackal]

100%

[white oriole]

Sadge

[slate gull]

in fire, yes

[near yoke]

Dark and fire

[sick flower]

depends on context

[shy jackal]

Darkflow and fire*

[young badge]

dark?

[shy jackal]

Kusogames made his leap darkflow shred specifically and not dark shred

[warped axle]

umbra*

[white oriole]

Well my Nanami is SSS R3 Wata is SS 5*, ig I should get his sig?

[near yoke]

Dark hitting 19mil

[sick flower]

in fire yes
in fire affix no

[warped axle]

no keep using nanami

[young badge]

with wata?

[jovial current]

gonna be silly question from 103 acc level guy, but what hypertuning actually does

[quiet lily]

no need just continue with nana imo

[sick flower]

stat increase

[shy jackal]

No just dark in general hitting 19m

[near yoke]

No wata

[jovial current]

atk/def/hp ones?

[shy jackal]

Wata leap doesn't give him dark shred because kusogames doesn't want him to powercreep daren

Smh

[sick flower]

stat increase.

[white oriole]

Is SS3 R1 Daren better than SS 5* Wata in Darkflow btw

[ruby onyx]

axial ray or dlt first for lilith?

[raw swift]

just to be sure this the only weapon banner I should pull at?

[white oriole]

Depends, DLT for Dark Axial for everything else

[sick flower]

yes dont touch the other one

[quiet lily]

both worse bcs darkflow still no content

[shy jackal]

Uncle leap qol for fire:

Sig energy on swap in

30%+ damage to orbs

10%+ edb to blaze orbs

ss0: first shot after entering ult1 will give you 2 blaze orbs(you no longer have to do dodge cancels with him)

sss: gives 2 ult stacks after parrying

Qte summons shred field, shred field size is increased

[warped axle]

don't play umbra its trash

[viscid moon]

1/2/3 hp and crit, 4/5/6 atk and def (hypertune these first)

[raw swift]

alr thanks

[wintry parcel]

*doesn't exists

[sick flower]

whats umbra

[simple dew]

whats the 3 worst teams now?

[quiet lily]

iceiceice

[simple dew]

ice lightning nihil?

[raw swift]

every new character sig weapon should appear here correct?

[warped axle]

quite funny how Glow has content despite being new

[mighty tusk]

roughly yes

Lightning was overtaken by dark even pre-bianca

[warped axle]

Lightning is so cheap to build tho

[sick flower]

nihil has 2 characters both being monsters 😭

[warped axle]

props to lightning

[simple dew]

cheap cause nanami is the carrying it

[near yoke]

The most I see nihil hit was 13mil

[simple dew]

1 goat 1 deadweight and a furry

[shy jackal]

Nana back must be hurting from carrying so many teams

[round lake]

Glow < Ice < Lightning idk if we can even count it as a team

[shy jackal]

But uncle will help relieve that burden a bit once his leap drops

She'll only be in 4 teams and not 5

[sick flower]

alphanewframepls

[near yoke]

Nanami on overtime

[quiet lily]

U on?

[simple dew]

praying for alpha to be the 2nd selena

[warped axle]

or just

1 petite god complex girl
1 goat
1 gamblar

[round lake]

Nanami is simply the world's strongest

[stuck berry]

Should I choose hanying???

[round lake]

[sick flower]

who is who

[noble zinc]

Enjoying grass

[sick flower]

oh you mean nihil

[noble zinc]

View

[stuck berry]

Help

[round lake]

yes pleaseyour Phys doesnt even exist without her

[warped axle]

nah lightning

[near yoke]

I feel like alpha next frame will be on nihil

[sick flower]

grass aint even close gang

[quiet lily]

Ok have fun, im gonna on now