#📨・meta-help
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Karen SSS + 21 2 resos is like 0.5M less
Wata solo op when he takes like 3 ults to do ballard 
Wait nope, ishmael is useless there
so op
my ember would take 100 ults
i didnt read the rest 
It's sad when it's supposed to be his boss 😭
my lotus would double that
it's ok i dont expect everyone to read
when i also dont engage in that activity

Wasn't it supposed to be Moon Eater?
md is hyper

Oh
Okay
balls is uncle
That's a very long time already
What
No karen 
Ok we need worgil in the server 
pyro is who again 
oh good lord i remember running solo hyper on md
kill me
solo hyper on luna too
:deadge:
mid
ah yeah that snake thingy

for your deskmat right
i think your should choose
the deskmat already arrived a week ago 
i chose iggymael 
mid
how large is it
im probably going to buy a deskmat of suisei I can't even lie
Suisei?
uhhhhh i forgor
it doesnt fit my whole table tho
im happy i cleared this in just 2 months 😊
you do need a flat surface for a mousepad 
wdym take😭 , Im just asking if it has enough dmg to clear waves 1 - 10 in a somewhat fast time 
I typed it wrong
in pgr term it's just his ult form
So what is it again on Vergil?
Ult 1 form
Ah
His form
He also has sdt points he gains on his bottom bar
I'm having second thoughts on the Collab characters, would SS Vergil be enough to sustain ultima slash ppc/warzone?
Depends on how much you would have for his teammates as well
You don't get to clear contents with just a singular dps in this game
SSr1 DLT is a comfy invest
I do have ss hanying with sig, only s echo with sig though
That's perfectly fine already
That is perfect
A complete SS rank team is already enough for almost everything you need to do in the game
7k BC this week, I heard the next reset will be 3x, wish me luck
Uhh
I forgot to mention that in terms of story content, I actually haven't done most of them
Its going back 1x next week
Well

Alright, thanks for clarifying
At least he does have a reserve if needed
1k bc weeklies fire emoji
Honestly I need to catch up on my story progression as well
Every update is always going to add more parts of the top of many parts already
Where would the pity in collaboration banners go after the update?
Nowhere
I'm usually lucky with them, hope that could apply to this one as well
Well rates are 0.5% per pull on the regular banner so gl w that

Is there a future event that will give SS Dante? Don't want him being stuck at S
No
You have to pull him otherwise he will be stuck at S rank
I mean there is also a paid pack that has enough shards to get your Dante to SS rank
:D
Sounds incredible
It's 40 bucks
The banners were cheaper for good reason I suppose
True true

can u fund me dazzlao
U rich kid 
me poor f2p
But I'm not a rich kid
Can you fund me ?
only a student
and all students are broke
I'm homeless
its ok we can share \
Gibe the 2$ donation u got today so I can pull wanshi sig 

Yo uh
So i got both dante and vergil weapons
But uh only got 3k black cards left
Are their cubs like necessary or nah?
No
It has 1 or 2 fancy attacks that can be triggered using only their cub
But it does small to almost 0 damage in practical use
Aight thanks
for the motivated combo you will need cub, but other than that no
hi what build should i put on luna (base S) for solo ish if i already have 4dv2guin on geiravor?
4 lantern 4 cottie
sin devil trigger
Watafuc
, I was so excited to learn motivated combo and try it in wz
I am so sad Im turning into Vergil
Tbh the cub is 5k bc at most so if you want it you can probably still get it
Just watch out for Bianca funds bext patch
Im gonna brick my account if I get the cub
you aint bricking your account by getting a cub
It will be mildly inconveniencing for a few months
7k bc
I'm pretty sure this particular "motivated" combo is not what you're supposed to do
No dark team, no human rights
It is not, but its fun
With the income from next patch you can afford Bianca
4 DV 2 Einsteina
Or 4 DV 2 Gloria 2 Einsteina if you have her weapon
Instead of Gei you should use your strongest Gen 3 tank with its default set
Yea, I just wanted to see how far I could get on the early waves with it before I go double ult
Thats going to future characters, I 90% embody the meta outlook
It's gonna end up as mixed damage both Physical and Ultima slash damage
nanami startrail?
It's definitely something I guess
But only the gauntlet does the phys dmg, unless I have to use it for the combo
If you have Wanshi SSS, he might work better. If Nanami is SSS, then Nanami
Same rank Nanami is better, otherwise choose the one with the highest rank
thank you cheese
Good night and don't let the bed bugs bite chat
Np!
Gn 
this first chapter name says long on how this patch is
Actually, it seems that I was wrong
The cub gauge can be filled even without a cub
for cubs should you always just use the second active ability (on the right)
I have all the meta teams at SS. Who gets the most value from dupes? I have an S rank choice pack and thinking of using it on Qu but not sure.
Startrail
Well if it's from a specific S rank selector, who are the characters selection that you have
Up to Qu
The only option you have is between Epitaph and Shukra because how they're basically the only useful ones that are available
You can also consider Scire if you do have her signature weapon
It's also good to mention that both Scire and Epitaph shards can be purchased eventually in the Voucher shop because both of them have a leap upgrade
Yeah my scire is SSS rn and I like the ice team so I think I'll go with Qu
Thanks for the help!
No problem
Is the ignition wz next week?
Ye
Aight
Wait
Already??
i am 30 pity away from vergil, am i wasting my pulls because there's someone better at his role? should i stop pulling him
If you are already pulling might as well finish it
He's best in slot in his role as ultima slash damage dealer
chat I only have 21 Feral, CW, and Startrail
who should I pull on the check standard and aniv banner?

You should have hanying solacetune to play ultima slash though
well, i guess you got a point. but is he any good for just for collection
i have that one with sig and cub
Well then feel free to finish your Vergil pulls
how about dante, i have pyroath
You don't necessarily need him to play ignition, you can just use Nanami startrail instead
Dante is best only on Ignition affix
so he's kind of a collection only?
You need him if you want 20m score in wz tho 
Whether his performance is equal or better than startrail at ignition is something I don't know
In other words, I'm not sure
You need to s+ r3 everyone in that team to get 20m
Im sure you have that kind of investment
idk what happened anymore, after nanami startrail what other units are must pulls? i quitted after getting her
energy point
Oh. Why do you guys call it sp then?
blue bar
signature points wtv
Oh! I see, I was half correct then. Thank you! 
dunno don't remember
it's always been called sp
Who calls it that?
I've never heard it even once
I've heard sp here and there
nyo that would be xeno
show
ok, type the rot 
Wait
u really gotta work on making inputs clearer man 
Ultima Vergil rot #2
- Opening rot
- swap in Vergil
- 3p Red > Tap BA
- Tap Ult (SDT)
- Tap BA till Ult gauge full > Ult as soon as the Ult gauge fills
- Tap Blue
- 3p Blue > Hold BA till 1 charge and release
- Swap to Hanying
- Do Hanying rot
- Swap to Alisa to trigger Lingya
- From now on
- Swap in Vergil
- 3p Red > Tap BA
- Tap Ult (SDT)
- Tap BA till Ult gauge full > Ult as soon as the Ult gauge fills
- Tap Blue
- 3p Blue > Hold BA till 1 charge and release
- Tap Ult (SDT)
- Movement Joystick forward + Tap Dodge + Hold BA till 4 Orbs consumed
- Ult
- 3p Blue > Hold BA till one charge and release
- Repeat from Hanying Rot
@deft apex
It's risky btw cuz more orbs consumed
But still it's good
Faster
Watching your Vergil rot with login theme song ironically goes hard ngl
Can u type han rot too? 
I wrote it in Steam notes when Shi-Yori last linked her rotation videos:
- 1 Yellow
- 3x 3P Red Ping
- Green
- Ult
- 3P Blue+Tap Ult (Builds Slash)
- 3P Blue+Tap Ult (Builds Slash)
- Basic (Detonate Slash)
- 3P Blue+Tap Ult (Builds Slash)
- Basic (Detonate Slash)
- Ult 3x, hold Ult, swap off
I already had the Vergil rotation written down but it was written worse, so now I copied this, thanks for posting it
Man
Wants to kill me
[3p blue + Tap Ult] x2 is twice
Thank you!
Oh wait, I know knew that O_O
I wrote that one after the other
*I don't mean to be sarcastic, I wrote that but forgot
Btw I put Lingya on Echo but didn't read what it actually does lmao
Ultima Vergil rot #2
- Opening rot
- swap in Vergil
- 3p Red > Tap BA
- Tap Ult (SDT)
- Tap BA till Ult gauge full > Ult as soon as the Ult gauge fills
- Tap Blue
- 3p Blue > Hold BA till 1 charge and release
- Swap to Hanying
- 3 Red > 3p Yellow > Green > Tap Ult
- 3p Blue > Tap Ult
- 3p Blue > Tap Ult
- Tap BA
- 3p Blue > Tap Ult
- 3p Blue > Tap Ult
- Tap BA
- 3p Blue > Tap Ult x3 > Hold Ult
- Swap to Alisa to trigger Lingya
- From now on
- Swap in Vergil
- 3p Red > Tap BA
- Tap Ult (SDT)
- Tap BA till Ult gauge full > Ult as soon as the Ult gauge fills
- Tap Blue
- 3p Blue > Hold BA till 1 charge and release
- Tap Ult (SDT)
- Movement Joystick forward + Tap Dodge + Hold BA till 4 Orbs consumed
- Ult
- 3p Blue > Hold BA till one charge and release
- Repeat from Hanying Rot
Arigato, ill make it into visualization as per usual

With orbs and stuff, so easier to read
You can add a tap BA before the 3x Tap Ult for Hanying for even more stacks
Gotcha
Life saver truly

Ill make it into smth like this
Can you please paste it here after?
SS0 & SS3 dante is huge diff or nah guys ?
#KILLVERGIL
Dante is default SS3
But yea
Minor difference but SS3 has bit QTE
Sure can do
:D
Free dante is SS0 right ?
Story + free from banner ?
Free Dante is 1 copy + gacha one copy and get 1 for free from the banner
SS3
Aren't CC's supposed to know this by now?
Oh yea
Fake CC!?
What is the memo set of Hanying? Imma do Balter temporarily since I lack whale funds to pull Selena, if there is diff between the memo sets and reso, do pls put it here ty
Physical?
If you pulled Vergil, use his physical rot instead of Balter if you don't have Selena
Yeah
You get base s for free
Lack of funds, I stated it
I only have Dante
How come you didn't pull Selena previous patch though?
From now on
Swap in Vergil
3p Red > Tap BA
There's this part in Shi-Yori's rotation, does the 3P switch to the Yamato or is the Yamato selected by default after switching in to Vergil? Meaning, is this switching to Yamato to attack with it, or doing a Void Slash and the attack through the enemy that comes after it?
When you switch, Yamato is default
Great, thanks
How good are Dante and Vergil's cub are? and is it worth to get as an f2p?
i got a sss dante ( 2 early pity multi) and ss vergil and their sig
He does 1 void slash at entry but you don't get SDT gauge nor can you do the follow-up
So you 3ping red
Right, I think I read that in your video yesterday or two days ago
I'll say the cub value is "ok"
I pulled Vera and got an extra of 1560 black and 60 y tix left, at that time and decided to save it plus Selena will be useless without Hanying anyway or Echo which is still has no sig
Selena will be useless without Hanying anyway
not in glaciation 
and besides, you can pull selena to future-proof your account
not like you're never gonna get hanying, since vergil needs her too
I can do this rotation fine, but I'm struggling to be stylish with PGR's controls, in DMC 5 I can easily do any combo I can imagine but I'm not used at all to the orbs -_-
I thought I'd be fine with doing the combos I know and love since I've been playing this game for a few months but it's actually difficult
glaciation is still incomplete since I haven't build Echo's leap yet cause I lack the money to buy the wafers
can't you buy the wafers in sim shop as well
no more coins, in this patch im in resource drought
Time to grind derived from matrix
better off doing tundra
Forgot about tundra
faster if you use the method whelfie found
After i finished the colab story since
I have not done tundra past the first run
Isit possible to get SS Dante without gacha?
no
No
Aight thanks guys
Buy his pack for 328 rc
That's the surely way
Oh right you can whale forgot about that WOOPS
make sure you get the free copy first though
if you don't, then you gotta spend 50 shards to unlock and you only have 10 shards remaining 
You don't have to spend the shards, it's not automatic
You can just wait for the free copy
if you buy the pack first, the free dante copy gets converted into shards since you own shards of dante
what memories are these ?
cottie
why its diffrent ?
it's cn cottie
BRUH
glb cottie got redesigned because cn cottie is well
it's called adolphe
the reason why should be obvious
is the advanced for this 12414?
SS0 Lucia + SS0 Nanami + SS3 Lilith
Hero Flux, single mob
Flux zone rotation
Applicable team rank and weapon resonance: Lucia SS0 (with DLT)/Nanami SS0/Lilith SS0
Rotation order: Nanami ⮕ Lilith ⮕ Lucia ⮕ Nanami ⮕ ...
[Nanami, Starter]
⬇
[Lilith 1]
1: 🔵🔵 ⮕ ult
2: hold A ⮕ Ult
⬇
[Lucia 1]
hold ult
1: 🔵🔵 + hold ...
you mean 12415?
That shouldn't work that way
If you have shards of a unit from gacha and then pull the character, that isn't converted to shards either
is it? is 5 possible with ss0?
yeah, just takes setup
whelfie has a rotation guide
inputs look very tight though
not rlly, i know decimals so its easier now thank heavens
bless whoever created the decimal strategy for rotations 
Is there something like this for ss3 lucia for ion and fire?
I try doing empy's standard rotation for ion but the energy math for some reason doesn't work out
For the first rot that is
empy?
empress i think
The handle on YouTube is empy+numbers
Empress ye
the 1e2s?
or opening?
Liv - lux
Sophia - silverfang
Vera - frozen
Wanshi - hypnos
Who should I get in the a omni frame choice pack
For ss3 she opens with 2 short 1 long no
Doesn't matter
whats the ss0 rotation recommend for this zone? sorry, i forgot i came to ask my question
Is it bcs they're outdated?
A rank
they're a rank, super easy to get
Just get the one you like the most

In the current meta dante and vergil are weaker than pyroath and selena:pianissimo ?
All their premium options are free except for silverfang but she never was good
By a lot
anybody?
At least for fire and phys, for affix they are meta
do i just use 12415?
Alr, thank you
If u dont want to think much, just use the same rot, even i dont know much the tweak rot
ok thx
honestly
it's not worth malding mob wz
I generally end up in pushover lobbies, so i top easily until i rank up to the highest one
And when i do that's just a week where i don't really try other than just getting a for me acceptable score

...nanaknight? wut?

Is that written by AI
Vergil lightning
dps
it's pretty bad ragebait tbh
What
Misinfo at its finest
solo sss nero
unless they mean noan 
just a parody of astral
man.
it had copypasta vibes yeah
that was a genuine comment sent by player on a video of SSS+ astral perfect reso vs SS luna no reso underlvled weapon video
should've not done my wz 
Ginger is alive 
Yeah i remember that pasta
I need to see the original 
Bad test. Astral S+ is ALWAYS better than Luna SS and is on par with Luna SSS. Solo camu SSS is better than both, team Camu with Max investment SSS/SSS+ is on par or better than Luna SSS depending on mission type (Battlefield she catches up waves 4-6 then lags behind final wave because Camu gets there faster and has his sig up by the time the boss is there and nukes it) and then much worse in Paincage because of obvious reasons.
Astral competes. You swapped to Vera who is always a net dps loss, you should never be swapping to Vera unless it's to proc a set bonus or use ONE 3 ping/sig and then swap off again. She is always a dps loss otherwise.
Also your individual skill is leaving a TON to be desired, how are you getting hit by CAMU of all the paincage bosses. He sucks. You also keep missing your skills. Bruh. At least use a GOOD attempt to showcase your claim.
Anyways, CN and JP have done this already and Astral has been consistently better than SS Luna and similar to SSS Luna when they are same investment
i WOULD say copium
intraveinous copium to the next level
what did i just read
the real dps vs a virgin
who wins
Ohhh now I remember
what even was the point
did the player just use astral horribly to make laurel look better lmao
because that's what I'm getting from the pasta
could be the original post was like cw
coping that astral is getting outdmged by SS laurel even with the best condition
ah
Have they fixed the weekly?
yes
what was wrong
Apparently it was too easy
so they upped it now to 16mil score for warzone for all the weekly bc
Absolutely not. You should never, either by chance or by heart, ever main that character. Not only is his damage output low thus making him unfit for an DPS, he requires a massive amount of resources, investment and copium just to be good enough to have some on field time in warzone. Even A rank units at SSS beat him in both shred and damage. and he's not even hot He's not even worthy to be a qte slave at base S and SS gives little to no shred. With all due respect, he is unfit in any kind of operation (yes even caretaking and backup squad) and he should properly be recycled into parts. This way atleast he can be useful to babylonia by giving back the expensive components used to build him in the first place.
Is dante ss3 enough for ignition? I dont have nanami
MODS SOMEONE IS COPY PASTING
BAN ZEXOUS FOR DIRESPECTING MODS
WOOOOOW this completely unrelated copypasta is personally offending the mods
we just have to ban zexous at this point someone bring him back so we can ban him again

finally finished this to get some extra dmg and skill levels
Is it worth investing in XXI or Ardeo
not overly no
just levelling their skills you need + weapon if u are relying on them and will have to for awhile, with their memory builds u wont even need to resonate them
I'm quite new, how and what do you mean by resonate? I
What's a good choice of weapon for XXI
ok Im used to hitting perfect judgement cuts on vergil now
just her 5 star weapon
hello
dont need to gacha for it, there is free selector with some 5 star weapons and u also get shards for them for free from dailies
Which is animus or?
wait we can't post screenshots ..
Experimental Core: Whenever No. 21: XXI performs Shadow Prism attacks or disrupts incoming enemy attacks, the Co-Bot unleashes a Force Wave that deals 50% AOE Dark DMG to enemies. This effect can only be triggered once per second.
Inver-Resonance Unit: Increases the Extra DMG Bonus of No. 21: XXI's Twilight Matrix and Resonance Pulse by 10%.
368
203
yes xd
Ofc we can 
ok I guess I gotta sleep for 4 days then
which one is better for vergil rotation
Skill Switch:
Judgment Cut End: 90 Signature
Energy + Not in SDT Form, Press and
hold Signature/ln SDT Form, tap
Signature
Judgment Cut End: 90 Signature
Energy + Press and Hold Signature
Vergil casts his Ultimate Ability
We can
it was the slowmode preventing me from sending the pic xd my bad
Np
i mean one of them is default but i forgot which xD
i’ve been malding plasma beam with 12415 set up but its too tanky for a investment with 222.3 lucia,nanami,lilith
r1 dlt r0 r1 super conduct axis
U still mald thats the spirit
should i give up? this is the highest
(hero)
i really want 5mil 
mines ss0
And i really want.10m lightning
^^
This week is mob anyway, hard to get high score
true
I reached 5.3 with bald 12415 22.33 111
Have you tried sss3 scire 
Idk personaly i do 22344 this week
But im in legend and casual with affix
i really hope i lose to ss3 nanami at august 14 while pulling for selena 
The investment is 222.3 101 bro
Should i SS3 Pyrooath with blue ticket or are there any better candidates? (Nanami?)
i see
nuke got this with 2.32.33 323 - legend
should i actually go for ss3 nanami with the 70% instead? i wanted to ss6 selena but thats not gonna work atp 
i wish i had sss lilith mines ss3 
My wep reso best is 311 
i just got mine to sss on f2p acc last week finally
Nanami is in anniv banner, get there instead
the extra shards helped a lot
Nanami more priority to get ss3
Oh. I cannot do that unfortunately. I only have arrival with high pity since the bc is for Bianca
Selena ss3 also better than lucia ss3
Would that change when we get a new lighting attacker?
The arrival pity is all the way from Garnet patch when I didn’t know pgr meta 
Who knows
Well she can be fit for 5 teams and more, so she still preferable to ss3
And I might go selena gacha coating if early
A new character release may affect the priority like always from how Meta is shifting on every S rank debut
So what, im saying what ive got 
Yea but nuke is built differently
Guys…
This is why outdated information is really crucial in live service games with constant update with the Meta
I’m gonna give up on SS6 Selena I guess I’m F2P either way
Ss6 not gonna do anything anyways, unless sss
And I don’t like SSS Selena rotations its fast
Why did you want it in the first place then
yea I still can't clear the last stage of norman
Kindly use supp service
True, I will just stick with my SS3 Selena and use the arrival rate up for Nanami and pray I win the 70% and never touch it again
https://huaxu.app/eu/players/26203361/characters what can I do to actually clear norman with this account
Explore the 42 characters of NFG from the Europe server of Punishing: Gray Raven.
which characters should I build next
Have u tried borrowing character from guild
I love Selena cause as a character a lot. 
yea but you can only borrow character once no?
I cant even get perfect tactics since Im missing some teams
It's not once
But 1 character at a time
Perfect tactics is not really that necessary
The 2 main thing about Norman is that, if you can reduce the enemies hp and not die before they do
You can clear it
Should i get Vergil first before i pull on the anniversary banner?
the first ever battle I did on the last stage it took me 5 mins the clear the first wave of mobs
didnt even clear that stage btw
Is it fine maxing XXI, or js leave her a certain level
You have a broken character on your account but leaving them gathering dust
Of course it'll take longer if you only use the other characters (that's probably weaker)
yea like I said I have no mats so Im asking what to build next when I get mats 😭
Damn
For early still to find to max her
nah I just maxed out dante vergil and 1 other character I forgot about

"That you forgot about"
Bruh
lowkey forgot who I maxed
oh yea that sss+ darkness attacker
Clearing first wave by 6s is crazy work nya
btw Im guessing that I have to max out selena and vera yea?
Looking at your account, I don't even know where to start
Everything else is just as left as anything else
also I have around 1.2k ppc tokens
idk if that will help you decide what to do next but yea
Pretty normal for the Plasma team to be honest
Until the first Pyroath swap, you pretty much won't do any significant damage like whatsoever
So any build up before is just for the sake of it
@frank kindle i heard u have a vid about speed running detrieved matrix can u send link ?
Is there a video to kill Humpty Dumpty with 222.3?
With scire starter you be at wave 9/10 by 10s 
Should I level up XXI's basics skills first or her special skill or her common effect
Its tundra
Spend 500 for both Pianissimo and Geiravor like you've said
Honestly if you don't mind putting Geiravor besides because you already have built Pyroath, you can get SS rank Pianissimo and SS rank Solacetune first and Geiravor afterwards
Both Pianissimo and Solacetune will carry your Physical team easily
Don't forget to give Echo her signature memory so your Physical team can benefit the 100% critical rate buff from Echo's heal
oh anyways send it i didnt do any of the 3 that type modes
I can push geiravor behind a bit
since I need her for the ignition and fire team but honestly both teams were doing fine Im only having issues with physical team rn
That make sense
Your Echo is at level 1, no equipment
No wonder your Physical team is struggling
yea I have her sig and allat I just didnt build her
Lmao
oh ok can u send it and ping me on that channel or send it to me in dm
Just click the link
also having ss3 selena changes the rotation or no is it same rotation for wz and ppc ?
oh ok ty
changes the rot from 2 tempest per rot to 1 flower 1 tempest per rot
i one tapped and got 5.4m lol, you can def get better score. the account im playing on even has lower invest its 2.322.3 111 lol
what rot are you using? i am using 12415
im too lazy so 3555 
yea I just tested it out dante and pyroath just carries the fire team even without vera
the memory build is still same right
doing 5 slash isnt lazy?
ye
5 slash is easy too me now, ive done it way too much
so dalao
im bad 
Lie
is patton or cottie better for hanying?Im using her with selena
Patton
cottie if u dont have sig
patton if u have sig
patton but you need dlt lol
This
just orb weave
wait is this 1% damage for every single character on my account???
it only takes a couple of second
Also ultima slash uses cottie 
That's not what it says
1% edb per every orange arrow on your unit
Each not every
oh i have it so patton is it
That doesn’t work for SS0, right?!
so its just 6% in total then?
Your memory has 2 resonance skill slots on each, each resonance skill slot can get a hypertune upgrade
Each of those hypertune upgrades in your current character will grant you a bonus 1% boost
12%
oh yeah duh 2 hypertunes lol ok ty
Well at least that's if you already finished the sequence pact
bear in mind
12% edb is ALOT
Yeah
I was kinda ignoring it but now I have 7 hypertuned chars
R1 priority for Selena vs qu vs wanshi? 
You've been missing out a lot
always newer unit
dw im very motivated now
It's just the matter how much you care about your physical more over than your ice team
Its okay. I will stick with this score for now 
Either one will be left behind
R0 Pianissimo or R0 Shukra
Choose your poison
you have ss3 lucia no?
Same discord acc, diff person
Well Selena still double rots without dlt vs qu just being bricked unless you short+full ult
Thats my friends acc one 😂
oh wtf
It's weird
I’m gonna try that on her acc though hopefully that scores higher
nvm then dont ask me, ive never touch ss0 lucia ever before
I mean short + full is still double rotation in my book
What a Whale
my global acc is like 1.1k rc lol, basically f2p at that point
Very f2p huh
Wtf not touching wife
Huh
technically with old luna+cw sig and a few vouchers I have 4 resonances but I hoard a lot for dire situations 

half of them are buying skin, 500 onlucia and 168 on luna
Isn't it right now is kind of a "dire situation"?
I mean having r0 Shukra is quite a dire situation
Dire is unplayable kit but you just said short+full is double rot 
wife deserve more than ss0 
I mean 20 mins ago my wanshi was on 5* 
I mean I did say it's double rot
What makes you think I considered that "not unplayable" by your terms 
is no.21 feral good?
also every account pilot i bully the owner into ss3 lucia 
I- 😔
Lucia somehow still appears
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#punishinggrayravenglobal #战双帕弥什 #パニグレ #pgr #phantompaincage #ppc #verageiravor #verapgr #luciapyroath #pyroathPGR #ss0 #fireteam #fireteampgr #gwynplaine #maxscore #maxscoreppc
What does dlt even do for ss0 selena
The question seems slow down already yet we still get 15 sec cd
I don't know
More special orb to spam?
on who's memory resonances i should work first(alisa is the only one without sig)
Well you're not flower ulting on ss0 so unless it's for triple normal ult dlt seems dead 
I've been playing Pianissimo with 2 orchestra signature moves from the moment I got her signature weapon
vera dlt then hanying/wanshi domain decon
i mean memory resonances,ik the weapon resonances for them
Yea you can always double orchestra ult on her without dlt assuming single han+echo ults
I guess you can make it work
Even Glacio doesn't really need Deadline Timing resonance skill as far as I remember because she's doing 1 rotation at a time
then everyone lol
Should I level up XXI's basics skills first or her special skill or her common effect
yeah but with who do i start(its going to take like a few days each)
Everyone, when it comes to HT just start with 456 memories
prob vera first, then hanyin/wanshi then alisa
Only reason I was considering wanshi was for lilith zaza team since nana is ss0 so ss3 r1 wanshi would be better
btw do i go cottie bottom on vera to min max or it doesnt matter?
I forgot that thunderbolt research has a paid battle pass and I just bought it this version for more resources
Just check next wz and ppc and go with that
also dont go for perfect reso for now, youre gonna go banktupt bery quick. i went from 160k to 40k building 2 sets
It was a lot of resources
Whel
the thing is i have perfect resonances on almost everyone lol so close to completion 4 more characters
hm patton bottom for vera? i usually just have the 4 set on 1235 and the 2 set on 46 cuz i switch them around a lot
It takes one to know another
Also technically you taught me to Whale
:D
so if you really really want to min max do / minmax on the bot, otherwise just do like me save mats
its 3 extra atk over shakespear idk if it matter much
I don't think that would mean anything considering your current state right now
its really really minimal, just follow me if you dont want to build many extra memo
Yeah, I agree with just putting the Signature memories on the bottom slot with the secondary set at the top
@crimson swan very meta take, I really like ur pfp

You might lose some one digit atk, but it makes it so much easier if I ever needed to change memory set or upgrading in general because I would only need to upgrade the slot 04, 05 and 06 for now to get the full damage boost and leaving whatever memory left at the top slot at level 1


its one of the official wallpaper form pgr lol
Even with my thousands serum on the simulated battlefield before the update coming, I'm already down to 20.000 only after upgrading the collaboration character
yeah I know 
I will not recover anytime sooner
im from 840k down to 520k building the brothers lol
Should u sss+ xxi or is sss fine
Does a serum pass even worth it at all at this case?
patton on vera?
no
Damn
sss is fine
sss+ is purely dmg
@spiral merlin so......there's a chance you might have Hanying on cooldown if she's not SSS with that rot
oi ezra decrease the cd
im drowning in memo reso usb, i couldve used that and saved like 200k
Sim points?
So Hanying rot needs to be restricted so how that alisa gets fieldtime before Vergil is up
To allow Hanying cooldown to get nearly up
yea
Done
Wait what
333 team?
lol i had a brainfart moment i meant cottie
No
Literally said non SSS Hanying
hm my bad, what rot are you using tho?
yeah i use this rot as well, the upper one
can someone send me a vid about ss3 selena rotation
Ah sucks
The game isn't connecting again

ss0 alisa no rights in this economy 
fk whel
now do 32s 
Skill issue score ngl
hell nah, wanshi is such a b*tch with his orbs
actually annoying
you dalao should be easy for you
tho nice score ig, im too poor too do that
max score for glacio off-element on red huaxu is 28 sec
and that needs 444
aint much but it's honest work
lao so good
just need xeno and zeratu to kick me out
setsu had a run with off-element plasma
Try to replicate these if you have the same investments.
Its always welcome.
#pgr #pgr_cn #퍼니싱 #퍼니싱그레이레이븐 #intensivebattle
That guy on the 2nd place did 34 sec with solo nanami. How
I just checked, it's not off-element plasma
bad score?
oh the guy does not have sss cw (she's just base s)
this ss3 phys selena rot right?
3p > hold ba > 3p > ult1 > all white orbs > hold ba > hold bodge > ult2 > 3p > hold ba > 3p > ult1 > 1 white orb > hold dodge ult2

i think the tifa run is off ele both
seems pretty close
whats the memo for Hanying?
Very good, can you check his reso and cub invest?
Or does he have sss3 nanami
prob he 1-tap then
i got 35s with sss0
Check vid above i sent
#📨・meta-help message @deft apex
ok it's right
Worth investing on Lucia?
Which lucia?
Crimson or pyroath?
@ripe stag seems like its better to build 240 gauge on vergil rather than ult immediately at 180
tons more dmg for only 1 extra orb
Hey all, sorry if this is a common question, but when you get a character to SSS and have one 6 star weapon and CUB for them, what do you prioritise after? Would it be more dupes, maxing weapon or maxing cub? I am referring to the collab units in this instance which I'm not sure if that changes anything since their limited, but I'm also wondering what the general rule is
get the necessary reso and save for others
you mean memory and weapon res?
vertical investment is not good here
both memory reso and weap reso, memory reso is the default and weap reso depends on the character
I see I see, if I manage to do that and I still have resources, should I go for character dupes over CUB dupes?
or is CUB good lateral upgrade
3s is usually the max investment
me f2p having SS3 Selena and Nanami 
you only get s+ if youre a giga giga whel
its a miracle I still have BC
I see so character dupes would be the final thing if at all possible
"just pull fate i got ss3 everyone but hanying" not me btw
Crimson
thanks
pyroath
yeah, stopping point even for whale is usually sss
do we use bottom core passive or class skill on hangyin ?
No
She's outdated
Use her as qte bot
cutting hanying rota short helps with keeping truewill stacks high too, so when vergil uses mirage edge he gets big dmg
just remove alpha from the team
Cutting Hanying rot short?
Mind sharing what you are saying
My brain isn't able to process it
oh wait im confused about trueslash again lol
i think its sharp reserve not truewill
Which crimson
Crimson Abyss or Crimson Weave
as in not using full hanying core to expend those stacks
both are worthless anyway lol
quicker ult > more alisa time > quicker hanying swap back for vergil
You can expend stacks with Hanying
hangyin uses class skill on bottom resonances right ?
She can only get Sharp Reserve and convert them to Truewill
yes
i keep forgetting about the middle number 
mirage edge uses sharp reserve
but ult uses truewill
so ye best keep hanying rota same
thats why vergil 2nd rota ult deals so much more dmg
i see now
has anyone tried SSS Dante in ppc or warzone?
there's no fire wz to test him so no go
Mirage Edge - Over Drive can get Sharp Reserve points depending on its charge
Then million stab in SDT converts then to Truewill stacks
There's one for pain cage I think, I hope they have fire wz next week
It doesn't consume but convert
yes convert i meant
Weave
Got Nanami Startrail with sig and cub?
Only nanami
not fine
you want all the truewill you can get for max output vergil 1st ult
Yea then she'll not be up after double rot ?
its an ok compromise if vergil will kill anyway
I've got feral too
Devil May Cry in a nutshell.
Should I be worried with any of these stacks If I only have SS rank Solacetune?
youll be getting less truewill but it shouldnt impact anything
just dmg
Okay
So if I know my thresholds with my SS rank team, I should be fine then right?
I've been learning the team rotation with the slash team so far and getting a good enough optimal rotation for now (at least from what I think)
I was lowkey tempted to pull Wata from anni banner so I can ss3 him from selector next patch
But then I thought I might as well ss3 hanying and just wait to use vouchers on him lol
hanying replaced when
He's gonna be voucherable during Discord patch
So might as well 3s :shrug:
Wanshi memory?
Either that or judgement cuts
Or stinger
4 liston 4 chen ji yuan
Thanksss
Scire shining a little too bright 
still core
Dang on build bot it says class skill
yea I thought hanying gone to class now
imagine playing at 2am and see this 
from what ik its class since class helps the whole team to do more dmg(selena/vergil doing the most dmg)
Wtf is hatsune miku
The myth and the legend
are you sure i hear class skill is better
like you are the single person from here that reccomanded that everyone else told me class skill
Wrong
Wong
selena and vergil outdamage massively
She goes class, unless your account is so cooked that hanying is your maindps
wow such chinese
ong
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ng
rng
oh good cuz i alr tuned them to class skill
mods
Is crimson weave worth investing on? I have S nanami and S feral (is she worth investing on as well) or do I need their sigs or Smth
true but either both set, this is what class hanying perform in later wave
No shes beyond ded atp
im still keeping both class/core hy set, core set make the whole team reach some breakpoint than class set give you
Why glacio affix on tho
i thought u kiwi already
i tried switching hy entirely back to core last week and it was way worse
it doesnt matter
I'm sure it does
It boosts Hanying dmg
Doesnt it?
Thats new
Crimson? She's in the mets list in the pin though. Unless shes js not viable now.
Wbt feral
im running both and feel the same for me at 333 team
cw needs sss to be relevant at endgame
read the note
either 2.3/2.0

Which upgrades should I focus on getting first for these?
SS Hanying no sig, SS Alisa no sig, SS wanshi no sig
alisa ss doesnt really feel much different from s rank alisa so either wanshi or hanying
i thought it just there for hanying deal 2 type dmg at the same time? 🤔
Yeah but I don't think the TS dmg she deals is insignificant in phys
dont remember any part that it boost her dps up
It's off ele sure but still boosted by the team
it adds some more dmg
Oh, i meant that those are the ones i have rn and idk who to upgrades and if its SS3 or the sig
oh well i wont recommand pulling for more then s and getting ss with ppc skulls
They're all SS already
She needs stuff before being viable. Who else can replace her then in a lightning team?
yeah so dont pull for them anymore but get hanying's sig and wanshi's sig
Hanying first im guessing?
depends on your teammates who do you have?
is Luna good in any other team except nihil
qte bot everywhere
ur a qte bot
hmm so useless in warzone?
no shes great everywhere
I have SS selena with sig and 3S vergil for hanying
but you can't really solo warzone at ss investment no?
are there thing i should and shouldn't do as a beginner?
no ishmael does the dmg but for ishmael to do the dmg luna needs to be in the team because no nihil amplifiers currently
I was asking about teams other than nihil
oh then she wont solo shes a qte bot in other teams then nihil she lets you run wanshi(free to ss3 with vouchers) with anyone
and for ice?
I should go for hanying 
SS qu and ayla, qu doesnt have sig yet but im planning to grab it
Should I still invest in feral if cw is not worth the investment anymore or js build nanami
hm this is pretty hard to decide wanshi is just more dmg while hanying has functionality locked behind her sig
Well, i can get both but the other is gonna be in the future, so i just need to know which one first
you might want to pull for other characters if you dont have other teams completed over sig
but if you have teams go hanying sig ig
then hanying for more shred and more dmg also less field time
Kk so for now ill get qu and hanying sig then wanshi sig in the future
They decided that since it's the same button as DMC 5 for controllers lol it's intuitive
yeah gl
hey, help with ignition build
Nanami 4 herschell 4 cottie
Vera 4 dv 4 guinevere
Pyroath... - ?
you dont run pyroath shes useless in ignition(she doesnt do ignition dmg)
I feel like u just do solo nanami at that point
ig qte bot pyroath since she doesnt do ignition dmg or maybe im understanding wrong
Who don't actually try sub dps Pyroath first before deciding "she's useless" in an ignition team because people said so
The guide says that Pyroath is not heavily penalized by weather conditions D:
Where is true
People tried Solo dps Startrail in Plasma before and it wasn't that bad at all
pyroath in ignition wz only gets debuff of 0.8x
i see then ig she works i was wrong
Do you have a video demo or build on Pyroath in Ignition team?
No
pyroath build is largely the same
4 herac 2 cottie 2 ein?
who holds shakespeare is the question
that works too
Pyroath is fire/plasma, shes on the img cuz there isnt much other options and dante is a collab char, idk how does S dante perform but he should still be better in ignition than pyroath
I mean what do you expect for a content that's still unavailable in the global server would have any video reference or even a proper one available right now
or 4 herac 4 shakes?
Theory crafting won't get you far
she'll likely be stuck with 1 rot without cottie
Almost nobody theorized Shakespeare Geiravor to be strong if it wasn't for people actually testing when Geiravor finally debuted in the global server
You never know how much you can actually do until it's actually available in the global server
There are a lot of players playing in China and there is already a lot of content on YouTube on both Bianca Crepuscule and Ignition teams

Yeah but do you think they would actually have tried Pyroath in the Burn team as an example run considering most of these Chinese players already own every character at SSS rank if not SSS+ rank already
They won't bother such hassle when they already have everyone to play properly
No one even thought about using pyroath in ignition tho
Especially when dante was given for free
I saw the video on YouTube, but I lost it and can't even find it by keywords, it's a pity I didn't add it to myself.
should i get daemonissa
As much as those Chinese players are getting the content earlier than the global server, they haven't tried everything that is possible in the game that may actually be useful besides for the majority of people only
and what is r&d tickets and how do i get them
And that's gonna be on the global players to test further what's possible and not
Get her for free
do NOT spend your cards for her
what mission, and how do i unlock it
Event tab > scroll all the way down until you find a menu that has her
Should be on the event page somewhere on the top left
just use solo nanami
Who should I pick for this with only one working team
Who should I get in the s-rank omniframe choice pack (up to qu-shukra)?
nanami
the research?
what nanami?
how do i get the pulls for it?
Bottom left corner
she isnt on it
for gods sake get rid of the blue dots 😭
In Entropy warzone two stages buffs add up and spread to each of the two zones? Lighting + plasma, for example?
It does
namami startrail
Most likely, Lucia and Vera will win when there is Fire + Ignition in the Entropy Zone, I think
If both of the Entropy stage has the same element type between the Base element and the affix element, the buff can be utilized in both of the stage
Without a similar stage already, Burn zone also buffs the Fire element to a certain point
Like how Plasma Stage has buff both for Lightning element and Plasma Beam
yo guys, what's a good team with Luna Oblivion?
Luna Ishmael + any amp
alright, i miss Ishmael
I just got vergil how good is he solo?
garbage
m i d
he doesn't work without a team
just get alisa and solacetune smh
Whats his team?
alisa and hanying
Hanying is a must for him
Ok ok
Should I get hanying at basic banner for Vergil?
No team works solo, the solo that exists usually means a character being on field all the time, while the other chars stays off field as qte bot
Do u have nanami?
Nope, I'm a newbie
Nanami is too valuable to not get, i would prioritize getting her
What version of Nanami?
the lightning one
sussy baka

Arghhh I can't decide why is so hard being a f2p player
u cant have it all at once man
what u want to decide on, send huaxu for starters
skip hanying
Explore players and other data from the Punishing: Gray Raven outside of the game.
you can get both just grind content game giving you and you'll end up with a lot of pull currency
How do i get these two weeklies? I did the two war zone levels, crimson frost land and laser alloy
f2poors no human rights
If I skip hanying then I don't have a team for Vergil
contact support
we call the versions of the robots "frames" 
I'm a bit confused (Newbie) but is what's happening to me a bug or something?
yes
yeah its a bug that happened recently
So if you do these two missions, you're supposed to get it but because of a bug im not getting it? Wow I was breaking my head over this for so long
Should i? Or should i just wait until the standard selector comes
gamble icl
is that jinshi?

whel
No it's garbage
whel talking btw
Legit it was an unstructured run
HOLY YOU'RE GOATED
FK YES
I now have to learn her SS3 rot
u got it dw
I hit it 
in 17 pity, then I did more multi for SS3

My last one i got was a plume 
WOMBO COMBO
how do u reach with ur fingers
?wut
Is there a SSS bergil rotation guide somewhere?
dunno
How long does it usually take for babylonia_megumi to respond after texting them?
My frnd last time tried to contact took him over a mnth
Its the same
Pretty sure it just does more dmg
I’m thinking of going SSS3 on Vergil should I do it
They aren’t going to rerun after all
phat whel
do it

I got rlly lucky on the normal banner ok 😭 pulled him at 16 and 23
LMAO
Bro my earliest was at 59
i got nanami on 13 yesterday
Idk how I did it I got rlly lucky
I was in disbelief
Took me 65k bc that i saved
why so many carried people here
how to royal guard
Dodge without moving
I had 70k black cards saved up I still have 12k left
saving is my worst enemy
58k is pretty insane
I pulled both cubs early
Does anyone know?
The only thing saving me was the weap and cubs
Read
1 month
And this kinda happened too
ok jump icl
Are you joking?
Oh wait that happened to me too
nope
Yea the pull rates r so generous 😭
I have 2 of those too
They really take one month to respond?
yes
Idk what to do with the other one ngl
Is there a quicker way to get in contact with them
you are being trolled it does not take 1 month
no idea
I figured
U can fuse it to make it stronger in the evolve section
Spend 100k rc

