📨・meta-help

[gilded flint]

Watafuc is float dmg in the first place

[ripe stag]

Ignition is pretty braindead

[cobalt prawn]

It rly is. Makes me happy

[spiral merlin]

float is rng between 95 and 105% dmg

[median jacinth]

im back with new acc and lucia pyroath

[cobalt prawn]

Just by design, Dante is so much easier too

[gilded flint]

Ah

[spiral merlin]

well idk if ts floats but if it does that could explain it

however

even if float doesnt explain it, being faster is prob better

[cobalt prawn]

As long as it clears wave

Depending on invest or wave tankiness u might need slow one sometimes ig?

Also does Vergil have grouping built into his kit? Cuz his cub doesn’t group right

If u end up killing 1/2 mobs that’s ggs

[ripe stag]

Dante's Judgement is arena-wide

Idk about Vergil's JCE

[dense tiger]

would you get dante just because he is the only ignition attacker

[civic citrus]

I got him cause he fun

[subtle belfry]

yo for a vera rozen build, should i do 2 da vinci and 4 guinevere or 2 cottie and 4 bathlon?

[spiral merlin]

lilith is free

[frank kindle]

i'm gonna have around 60k for walter release

@normal sierra how ppc malding went

[spiral merlin]

wish that was me

i have like 23k atm

only ~1k of that is actually in bc

[frank kindle]

ouch

i got 19k bc rn and plenty of event + char dmc tix

[spiral merlin]

[frank kindle]

so sss walter is doable

[spiral merlin]

waltuh

[median spade]

my walter funds got approved

can’t wait to S+

[gray beacon]

[bold ferry]

The problem is that the anniv banner is limited so idk
Her sig is always here

[ashen parcel]

Does vergil orb attacks count as 3 pings?

[river nymph]

[rapid sierra]

By default it consumes 3 pings but like the others it can consume less, however this will give less core passive gauge

[ashen parcel]

I see ty

[stray siren]

[rocky wedge]

4dv 2 Guin, don't hypertune or resonate it though since she doesn't need it + Lilith is free who is way better 👌

4 bathlon 2 cottie is for guild battle which also doesn't need the set necessarily

[subtle belfry]

its for support

[rocky wedge]

She only uses bathlon cottie in guild, otherwise it's always 4dv 2 Guin or if there is DV holder already, 4 Guin 2 Sam

But don't need to build her she is very old, Lilith is much better and does more damage than lamia

Wait is that event permanent for her actually didn't even pay attention to how that thing worked

Not sure if you still get her weapon and cub free too

[frank kindle]

also did u know, lilith is much better and does more damage than lamia

[young badge]

yes we do

[median spade]

did you know lilith is much better and does more damage than lamia?

[river nymph]

did you know vera is much better and does more damage than lucia

[young folio]

https://huaxu.app/eu/players/24312195/characters what should I be looking at building with my account? (many characters are unfinished)

[stiff burrow]

did you know virgil better than both

[stiff burrow]

tru

[muted zenith]

guys, we must stop kuro glazing, they only ported over DMC combat animations into a game that doesnt have the concept of Z axis and doesnt even allow jumping, even tho they be giving the dmc character ability to jump, dash, air dash, double jump etc

smh, stop the glaze!

[final fog]

Its still better than peak of garbage

[muted zenith]

but the comment is from a ZZZ player tho

[final fog]

Zenless is peak

[cobalt prawn]

Petition for simulacrum to be permanent mode with weekly leaderboard🙏🏼🙏🏼🙏🏼

[zenith kernel]

Omaga

[muted zenith]

https://tenor.com/view/kitty-puke-puke-vomit-kitty-vomit-cat-vomit-gif-10902081098279086080

[cobalt prawn]

They can rotate diff characters and abilities for them too, w diff bosses every week…

[zenith kernel]

No god pls no

[stiff burrow]

https://tenor.com/view/tokai-teio-umamusume-silly-stare-ominous-gif-10630741857622335672

[cobalt prawn]

Why?? It’s literally sm fun, the rewards can be pretty 💩idc. We need more content that rewards skill expression, otherwise the dailies/weeklies get so boring after awhile

[zenith kernel]

https://tenor.com/view/dudidam-mambo-matikane-tannhauser-vtuber-dance-gif-253137180940701003

[cobalt prawn]

Just gives ppl smth to do/grind when they’ve alr completed the weeklies and stuff

[zenith kernel]

Wz rewards skill.

[deft apex]

do roguelikes

[cobalt prawn]

Right but my point is we can have a fun mode that ppl enjoy, added to the game permanently without forcing everyone to play it

[deft apex]

on repeat

[feral pollen]

simulacrum? are you talking about that mode where you spam one move for the entire fight and get sss rank?

[cobalt prawn]

They did better this time. Not like Selena brainless dodge spam

I like doing cool boss fights where I actually need to dodge and parry stuff lmao

[zenith kernel]

If it has a weekly leader board on bumucrap and make it a perma rotational you still end up with this.

[feral pollen]

you can spam dante's breakdance and get sss rank
you can spam virgin's ba in sdt and get sss rank
you can spam blue orbs on vera and get sss rank

[cobalt prawn]

Ur not gonna top the leaderboard like that tho

[deft apex]

what's dance breakdance

[feral pollen]

noone cares about leaderboards bruh, claim rewards and forget this trash mode exists

[cobalt prawn]

https://tenor.com/view/raygun-raygunn-raygun-breakdance-raygun-breakdancing-breakdance-raygun-gif-3035521202497175510

[deft apex]

I just wanna cheese and never touch the gamemode again

[zenith kernel]

Thanks
I needed a way to speedrun snoreacrap

[feral pollen]

balrog

[cobalt prawn]

Bragging rights😛I care, I wanna get no. 1 on it

[zenith kernel]

[deft apex]

is that blue orb?

[feral pollen]

ye

[cobalt prawn]

God forbid sm1 tries to have fun w a mode

[zenith kernel]

Wz has bragging rights

[zenith kernel]

We have fun with wz.

[cobalt prawn]

Yea, but sadly I don’t got money to S+ all my units

[feral pollen]

get a job

[zenith kernel]

I clap sss players with lower investments.

[final fog]

Brother you're in meta chat
Not one shotting bosses in ppc and killing 5 waves fast in wz doesnt release enough dopamine to satisfy the players

[cobalt prawn]

I mean.. I enjoy that too

But I also like the potential that simulacrum has. If only they could design the scoring system better so ppl can’t cheese it

[final fog]

You cant style on the enemies if you one shot

[zenith kernel]

Hey
Clearing 6 waves with 1 ult using the ancient cthulhu tech is satisfying

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/867995160854806588/1396177852570796092/pgr_broke.gif

[cobalt prawn]

I wonder what the unique mechanic of Gen 4 units is gonna be. Straight up time freeze?

10 minute long WZ runs🤣

[zenith kernel]

500% edb buffing for3 seconds

Imagine the ppc players delight
They can finally 0s ppc

[cobalt prawn]

I’m also wondering if every new phys amp after Alisa will need to have a 100% crit chance buff, cuz that’s pretty hard to beat

[zenith kernel]

Yeah
It's gonna be standard, i think the biggest diff would be them having to integrate it into the units kit instead of using their sig mems to proc

They'll allso probably have float negation ( )

[frank kindle]

gen 4 unit: ele can crit

[zenith kernel]

Lock behind sss6

[wanton jay]

4 dav 2 guin on echo with no sig?

[zenith kernel]

For which team

[wanton jay]

selena, hanying

[frank kindle]

u need signa my man

[zenith kernel]

Hell no

[wanton jay]

oh okay. so my current build is good. 4 signa 2 dav

[zenith kernel]

For one guin doesn't work for phys characters (it has a phys equivalent called Philip)
Also you need signa on alisa for the 75% crit rate buff for a total of 100%

[zenith kernel]

Yeah

[frank kindle]

collab units in guild siege when

[wanton jay]

oh yeh, i meant philip there. thanks for the explanation.

[feral pollen]

collab units are banned from siege

you cannot use nier/brs/dmc there

[frank kindle]

im aware of that

[zenith kernel]

[slate gull]

half units

[normal sierra]

it went nowhere
didn't want to do it yesterday cuz waited the news on these bricc weeklies, and today didn't have time for it
prolly just one-tap them tomorrow, at least the ones left are the easy ones

[cobalt prawn]

I’m good on skulls for the next 3 units so I’m just chilling with ppc for now

[frank kindle]

aw, hope it goes well

[crystal crown]

This good good to go right

@ripe stag im sorry to @ but wth is going in this video idk what inputs you doing this is too fast for me😭😭

[frigid iron]

Is this build good?

I saw on youtube that cleopatra gives egypt effect with 6x set

[frank kindle]

what youtube

[cobalt prawn]

Wtf?

[frigid iron]

youtube is a video platform that belongs to google i think

[frank kindle]

i meant channel

[frigid iron]

i dont know i saw it a week ago

you can probably just search for cleopatra egypt, there shouldnt be to many things that arent PGR

[cobalt prawn]

She was the queen of Egypt so I’m imagining 99.99999% of search results will not be PGR related

[frigid iron]

WHAT???

Like she owned egypt?

[remote fossil]

Satire build

[frigid iron]

no? i hypertuned it

[rose yew]

Zaza build like mine
I use 6 lantern tho

[frigid iron]

is this better?

[deft apex]

Much better

[frigid iron]

thanks guys

[mighty dock]

Im crying😭

[frigid iron]

Why? What happened :(

[rocky wedge]

tf is happening

[remote fossil]

Dunno

[rocky wedge]

https://tenor.com/view/tom-and-sledgehammer-gif-8997298331303714540

[mighty dock]

Y-you're running 2 cottie instead of 2 lantern😭

Its bad!

[rocky wedge]

https://tenor.com/view/ohmygoshjoshx-alcoholeic2-gif-24231729

[frigid iron]

sorry i just got her weapon when i lost my 80/20 for dante and the guide said cottie (honestly the guide is probably bad since it doesnt say lantern for the normal set too)

[gilded flint]

Not like you can harmo 5 star memos lmao

I am ready to devil cry

[mighty dock]

Yeah no, boo bad bot, meta-help will give you the best answer to anything you need!

[rocky wedge]

they are clowning xd

[frigid iron]

No i left for 1151 days

[gilded flint]

Will you still say that after repeating answers to the same questions for eternity

[frigid iron]

yes

[rocky wedge]

prove it

[mighty dock]

Im tired of telling people "cw is free, no dont select her from base banner"

So i just let it happen now!

(Obviously not in this channel)

[frigid iron]

i dont have any characters since 2022

[mighty dock]

Damn no roland, he's an S rank but only costs one 10 pull go get him!!!

[frigid iron]

Is he good? I just came back after 1151 days

[mighty dock]

Yeah he's amazing, truly the best fire dps, only topped recently by dante but they're still usable

[rocky wedge]

cant be serious with this though

[mighty dock]

Egypt effect 😭😭

[frigid iron]

i looked it up and cleopatra is egypt, so it should be true

[mighty dock]

Cleopatra in egypt
Or non global cottie in germany

[rocky wedge]

https://tenor.com/view/100-gif-25217688

[frigid iron]

which slots should these characters be in? is this correct?

[frigid iron]

6 mal cottie gibt den ägypten effekt?

[mighty dock]

Yes!

[frank kindle]

300k polygons

[gray beacon]

Omg nier👀✨️

[rocky wedge]

https://tenor.com/view/cat-gif-26795140

[boreal lynx]

should i pull dante or vergil

[gray beacon]

Virgin

Nana can solo burn

[boreal lynx]

was really hoping it would be dante cause i alr pulled his weapen and half pity on him

[gray beacon]

Then pull dante once to get ss3 so hes actually useable

[remote fossil]

When ur already halfway and too late too asking

[mighty dock]

Well he's free so there's that at least

Too bad he needs ss3 to be usable

[cobalt prawn]

Technically ss0 but the point is he’s not usable at base S0 (like every other S rank in the game)

[civic citrus]

Wut I thought he can be used at SS

[cobalt prawn]

1 pull gets him to SS3

[crimson crown]

I'm going to resonate my Vergil's Yamato, what are the best Resonance skills for him?

Also does it matter which 6-star weapons I use for resonation?

[rotund zodiac]

is SSS3 dante and vergil worth the extra pulls? I have them at SSS0 rn

[civic citrus]

I have him SS cause I bought the pack.

[cobalt prawn]

Right… so 299 RC is prob more expensive then just spending the 10.5k to pull him once lol. Vast majority of ppl are prob gonna go for the pull option

Esp since u get 2 copies from the 10.5k bc investment

[gray beacon]

Thats 10 mpa's 33000 bc i think

[civic citrus]

I would agree with you but I did it that way cause I got his sig in 4 singles and will pull Vergil with the 10.5k bc instead. So it was actually better for me to do it this way. So both can be SS and have sig.

[cobalt prawn]

The packs are pretty terrible value, ig if u pull Vergil twice and then buy a pack to SSS him then that’s ok but still..

[cobalt prawn]

But like.. couldn’t u have used that RC on other things that got u pull currency instead?

[civic citrus]

I already did

My bp and monthlies. And I wasn’t going to gst enough bc this patch for all of them

[calm panther]

Why stop at SS tho already spent 299 rc

[civic citrus]

Wym

[calm panther]

Just buy all the packs get all the 2x go for SSS+

[cobalt prawn]

No he didn’t pull for dante and just straight up bought the 299rc pack to SS him

[civic citrus]

Yeah

[calm panther]

[civic citrus]

I don’t want to spend all of that money I don’t care for him to be SSS+

[calm panther]

Yeah I'm mostly trolling dw

[crimson crown]

Is this accurate? Vergil doesn't really use signal orbs at all...

[civic citrus]

Oh ok lol

[cobalt prawn]

He uses a lot of orbs wdym

[calm panther]

Those things above the colored orbs are his signal orbs

[civic citrus]

I have started with 0 pulls (all my pulls for Bianca are not bc lol) and I want Selena coating so.

[calm panther]

Of which he eats thru like they're breakfast

[crimson crown]

Oh alright, I thought it was referring to the colored ones

[civic citrus]

How many copies for SSS+?

Ik SSS is 5.

[cobalt prawn]

Technically 4 if it’s non-collab since u can use PPC skulls

[calm panther]

They basically are his colored orbs it's just they have different mechanics where his orbs aren't actually orbs but his orb attacks still consume orbs

[civic citrus]

Well I mean for collab. How many to SSS+

[calm panther]

I explained it well

[crimson crown]

I see, thank you.

[cobalt prawn]

11

It costs 94,500 BC to SSS+ Vergil

[civic citrus]

Ok I’m not doing that lol

[calm panther]

11 pulls only? Easy

[civic citrus]

So should I just SSS Dante instead? Or SSS3 lol

[calm panther]

If you pull Dante twice you'd be at SSS I think

[cobalt prawn]

Well it’s gonna be awkward now that u have him at SS0 lol. If u were gonna SSS him from the start u could’ve just pulled him twice

[civic citrus]

I agree. That’s why I was only going to pull Vergil to SS.

[cobalt prawn]

But now u still need to do that and you’ll have some leftover shards (not enough to SSS3 I think?)

[civic citrus]

Well I can do 3 pities.

[cobalt prawn]

Yea I’m leaving dante at ss3 and Vergil ss0

[civic citrus]

That’s 5

[cobalt prawn]

They better stay meta for like a year. So much damn BC going into this

[civic citrus]

What rank is that?

[remote fossil]

Add 6 more

[calm panther]

Nope

[civic citrus]

So if I pull 3 pities will it be enough?

[remote fossil]

Ss6

[civic citrus]

SSS6?

[remote fossil]

If u want sss, 4 pities

[calm panther]

Idt at least? Am I mathing wrong? SS0 to SSS 9 shards per core 4 copies is 90 shards that's SSS on the dot

[civic citrus]

Wait

I’m confused LMAO

[calm panther]

Wait no, nvm, 90 is 3 copies

[remote fossil]

For s+, u need 11 copies totally

[civic citrus]

EXACTLY

[calm panther]

It's a little over sss then, yes, I no math

[remote fossil]

If u can only do 3 pulls, it will just be ss6

[calm panther]

and I'm supposed to be good at math. Brain fart

[remote fossil]

U need 4 pulls plus skulls to sss, if sss+ gonna add 6 more pulls

[civic citrus]

Ok and if I I pull 5 more copies of Dante what do I get. From SS

[rose yew]

Brick

[remote fossil]

Oh u talk about dmc? I thought u ask in general?

[civic citrus]

I just wanted to know LOL my original plan is to use the bc to pull Vergil + weapon + cub + Dante cub. I couldn’t do that without buying the Dante shards

OR just use my bc for Selena coating

[cobalt prawn]

That’s 7 more copies total

[civic citrus]

And what rank is that

[cobalt prawn]

No clue

[civic citrus]

Ok lol

[calm panther]

@civic citrus so you know what you're getting btw

[cobalt prawn]

That’s 2 copies away from SSS+, so maybe SSS5 or 6?

[glossy epoch]

if im mainly interested in vergil, should i sss+ him or sss3 him and get ss3 dante+weapon+cub?

[remote fossil]

SSS6 for 7 copies

[calm panther]

Should be ss6 then. 2 copies per breakpoint

[civic citrus]

Ok so 7 copies = SSS6 thank u. Is that even worth or

[calm panther]

180 shards total - 60 / 18 per node is 6.6 nodes so sss6

[civic citrus]

Hot take imma just leave him at SS and just get Selena coating lol.

[calm panther]

With some leftover shards, that's annoying

[remote fossil]

No, sss just enough, that's why dante just preferable to be pulled not buying his packs

[cobalt prawn]

That’s up to u

[remote fossil]

Unless u want sss+

[cobalt prawn]

Anything past SSS is usually giga whale invest

[calm panther]

If you pull just stop at sss3 imo

[cobalt prawn]

Dante is very very good at SSS. That ignition team scores super high

Although without double weather I think TS at equal invest scores higher(?)

[civic citrus]

Ok

[frank kindle]

single weather:
ignition: 17m
ts: 19.5m

[calm panther]

Well, I think you don't reach sss3, its like sss1. Something. Just stop once you reach SSS.x

[cobalt prawn]

Yeah there we go. Was ignition breaking 20 with the double weather?

[calm panther]

You can leave him at SS tho if anything

[civic citrus]

Well. Maybe I should just pull SS Vergil + sig instead ?

[calm panther]

It's not the end of the world

[cobalt prawn]

Prob higher value atp to unlock another unit yeah

And u get to save a bunch of currency for Bianca, who rly rly wants her SS3 upgrade

[calm panther]

Yeah ||discord supremacy tho||

[civic citrus]

Wym she wants SS3

[calm panther]

What's her ss3

[cobalt prawn]

Massive dmg boost

[civic citrus]

I can’t just SS

[calm panther]

No rot changes?

[errant fable]

What resonance do i do on vergils sig?

[cobalt prawn]

U can. It’s not like Pianissimo who has a rotation locked behind ss3, but the dmg difference is comparable

[civic citrus]

I’m more of a SS everyone person lol. Like idc about the ranking.

[cobalt prawn]

Her ss3 prio is… up there

[calm panther]

If no rot change then I sleep

[remote fossil]

She has not rot change, and her kit is quite slow like lamia, make it quite underwhelming

[civic citrus]

I have SS3 startrail

[cobalt prawn]

More important imo to have SSS Lilith

[remote fossil]

Idk why kuro likes to make dark attackers have slow kit rot

[calm panther]

Not again

[remote fossil]

Do one rot for 13s

[calm panther]

Dude do they not know PPC is a gamemode

[cobalt prawn]

Well she clears multiple waves while doing her core rot and sometimes her ult clears more than 1 too xD

[civic citrus]

Idek know what to DO now

[cobalt prawn]

Whereas lamia and daren be tickling the mobs

[remote fossil]

They just want to milk us more

[civic citrus]

LITERALLY

[calm panther]

Just spend 5k and SSS+ everyone so that way you guarantee you're not missing out

[civic citrus]

Bffr

[calm panther]

[civic citrus]

This is why I just buy coatings

None of this SS3 nonsense just vibes

[calm panther]

If you don't care about placement and there really is no rot change

Then I don't see the point of getting ss3 tbh

[cobalt prawn]

https://youtu.be/MpHJMvdKOOE?si=dv2uP-1j5Xs5sDub

this is SS0 Bianca

[remote fossil]

Early ss3 like the scire one is quite matters

[cobalt prawn]

With SSS Lilith and Daren

[civic citrus]

Idrc if the rotation changes like it’s just a rotation if I can do the SS rotation what’s the point of getting the SS3 for SS3 rotation

[cobalt prawn]

I actually don’t know what I’m gonna do abt Daren. She’s S0 no sig or memories and I’m not building her

[civic citrus]

Pfft

[remote fossil]

Ss3 nowadays just for busted qte for attacker, extra 10% shred for tank and extra 10% buff for amp, mainly for affix now

[final fog]

Does ishmael work instead of daren?

[remote fossil]

That's why, just stay it at ss, or sss

[deft apex]

Ok then that's your answer

[cobalt prawn]

But yea at this invest u can see Lilith pretty much has more field time than her lmao

[civic citrus]

Exactly yeah

[cobalt prawn]

What I meant is idk if I should still use her as QTE bot or run Ishy instead

[remote fossil]

Sure, but just as qte bot

[calm panther]

Use her for eins

[final fog]

How do you fill the gap though
Between the rotation of bianca and lilith

[cobalt prawn]

2 eins 4 core prob?

[calm panther]

Ish as qte tank is kinda restricted on memories

[deft apex]

U can run either or

Daren probably edges out a bit

[frank kindle]

here is my meta tank

[calm panther]

Qte ish is better as amp replacement than tank

[cobalt prawn]

Bianca cleared first 7 waves in 10s which is impressive for SS0

[final fog]

So you need daren for bianca dark or bricked?

[civic citrus]

So if I bought anymore collab packs what’s good value?

[cobalt prawn]

It’s more important that u have SSS Lilith tbh. I’m pretty sure u can cover all downtime with Bianca and Lilith rots + qte bot

[normal sierra]

was that before or after they nerfed her dmg overflow through waves?

[frank kindle]

https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1--NFm3o__MguetZJQsEIjIbx4bvp3MPm0QWlA4q26zk/edit?gid=1891594263#gid=1891594263

[calm panther]

No, it's not bricked, it's just ish memory options are worse but you can use her if you don't have her

[civic citrus]

Thank u

[cobalt prawn]

This was a month ago I’m pretty sure it’s post nerf?

[final fog]

I do have sss lilith thankfuly

[cobalt prawn]

(Also why would they nerf that?? She was alr underwhelming in the beginning)

I think empress is scoring like 18.smth M with dark now? Which means when we get updated dark tank it might be the highest scoring team in the game

[remote fossil]

Dunno, forced frame

[calm panther]

In anticipation for her full glow team. Unfort the dark one won't get upgraded tho because Daren will never be replaced

10 more years of scire

[cobalt prawn]

Oh yea maybe glow was too strong or smth lol

[remote fossil]

Most people use plasma intead of glow in ib tho

She's slow even for glow

[gray beacon]

How do yall switch into pyro last rot with 11s😭

[deft apex]

No daren? Fek whel

[calm panther]

Press button in order

For the whole run

[slate gull]

where's your daren

[gilded flint]

Does Solucetune in trueslash build the outer gauge with blue and convert the outer gauge with slash?

[calm panther]

[slate gull]

she has like 5 more years in her

[gray beacon]

[calm panther]

Almost there

Man it'd be nice to get a free Daren ngl

[normal sierra]

beached whel can't even afford best gurl

[civic citrus]

Ok so based on me reading. Is mirrored twins good value. The one with 19k

[civic citrus]

Or should I just SS3 Walter

[gilded flint]

Oh someone save me from this conundrum so I can continue writing inputs for Vergil

[gilded flint]

Worth going for, if you have the bc

and skipped dmc

[civic citrus]

Well it was either I get Vergil SS + sig + cub. Or Bianca SS3 + sig + cub I can do SS Bianca + sig + cub. Just want to know if SS3 is that worth it compared to Vergil.

[cobalt prawn]

Well even if u didn’t skip dmc if u have the resources u should do it🤣

[remote fossil]

I forgot haha too long abandoning ts

[civic citrus]

Well saving for future ppl lol

[cobalt prawn]

The patches are gonna be pretty slow from here on out prob

[civic citrus]

I have resources to do one so

[cobalt prawn]

Which also means lower income ig? Either way for f2p yea u do need to plan it out a little. We dont know how good Veronica and liv are yet, or even their elements

[gilded flint]

We are close to the end of the tunnel after spending eternity in speedup patches [insert smoking duck emoji]

[wind sable]

.

[civic citrus]

Liv free ice amp ON GOD

[cobalt prawn]

Integrated patches are so good for f2p but so expensive for spenders🫠im glad its almost over

The simulated battlefield buff was nice tho ngl

[river nymph]

[cobalt prawn]

Sitting on 100k coins😛

[gilded flint]

Xeno, do you know stuff about trueslash or do you hate it

[rose yew]

Both

[muted zenith]

I swear this fkin company man

WHO THE HELL MAKES CORE PASSIVE BAR AS COMBAT INPUT

<@&595893856554319873>

[wintry parcel]

Straight to the moderators

[fresh plover]

I know selena SS3 only helps two teams and nanaknight ss3 technically helps 4

But is the upgrade for those 2 teams way more significant?

[rose yew]

I ain’t reading all that

[remote fossil]

I already tried it, and yes it's worked like that

[vale raft]

Karenina: Scire

Skill - Core Passive (Lv. 18)

Space Walk - Leap Attack
Trigger: 3-Ping available + Press and hold Basic Attack

When Karenina: Scire has at least a set of 3-Ping Orbs among up to 8 Signal Orbs, holding the Basic Attack button will start charging and consume 3-Ping Orbs (up to 2 sets can be consumed), each set granting Anti-gravity Energy. While charging, Karenina cannot dodge but gains Super Armor and Extra DMG Reduction. After that, Karenina leaps up into the air with Leap Attack that deals Dark DMG (its Base DMG increases if 2 sets of 3-Ping Orbs have been consumed) and activates the Anti-gravity status. When Karenina enters Matrix, holding the Basic Attack button will start charging and automatically consume Matrix's orb pinging effect (which is considered to consume a set of 3-Ping Orbs).

• Every set of 3-Ping Orbs consumed grants 20 Anti-gravity Energy.
• While charging, gains 50% / 80% / 90% Extra DMG Reduction based on the number of 3-Pings made.
• Deals 450.0% Dark DMG when leaping into the air.
• When two sets of 3-Ping Orbs are consumed during the charging, the Leap Attack will deal 200% more Base DMG.

1/6

[river nymph]

what stuff?

[cobalt prawn]

Selena’s ss3 upgrade is massive, yeah. Impacts less teams but is a bigger buff

[gilded flint]

Phro thank you very much , Xeno I was talking about the trueslash gauge and how hanying uses it

[river nymph]

honestly no idea, i just know how to do her rotation but idk the mechanics behind it

[pine flare]

press g if you're in pc

[fresh plover]

Ill go for that then
Over the past few years i apparently have put 50 pulls in the anniversary banner, so i almost have a free upgrade considering i have a big amount of yellow cards atm

[civic citrus]

Selena not in there tho

[young badge]

[fresh plover]

She isn't?
Didn't look at it yet LOL

[ionic citrus]

Which one I should sss first

[civic citrus]

Nope it’s up to Lilith

[pine flare]

very true. just why

[cobalt prawn]

Yea just grab nanami

[remote fossil]

Gonna wait for half anniv (only once happened iirc) or anniv

[cobalt prawn]

She gets u big numbers in lightning wz and makes cradle a joke in ppc

[remote fossil]

Cus of sync

[pine flare]

dante is easier to SSS because u get one free copy from story

[pine flare]

yeah everything's a mess

[young badge]

his vergil is ss6 anyways so its same thing

[cobalt prawn]

I wonder how many new affixes they’re gonna come up with

[civic citrus]

Pls no

[cobalt prawn]

Cuz technically the more affixes they introduce, the longer it’ll take units to get replaced

[pine flare]

oh thats true

[civic citrus]

We have enough it’s enough slices

[remote fossil]

Bet they gonna do all have 2.0 except disruption, that affix just no func

Just purple shield

[cobalt prawn]

Cuz lightning is parent for plasma AND glow now right?

[young badge]

light alrdy have 2 kids

[cobalt prawn]

So are they all gonna have 2 kids? That’d be crazy lmao

[fresh plover]

For lightning ppc if your namami is ss3, is she back on solo duty or do you still swap to sss CW

[remote fossil]

Yes

[civic citrus]

Yes what

[cobalt prawn]

For PPC she kills cradle solo

[civic citrus]

Ooo

[fresh plover]

I was talking wz

[remote fossil]

She can still solo tbh, i have sss cw but not even use her cus no weap reso

[cobalt prawn]

U literally said ppc in ur msg💀💀💀

[civic citrus]

LMAO

[young badge]

💀

[fresh plover]

Typo, it's 2 am 💀

[cobalt prawn]

And now u reply to wrong person

[civic citrus]

[young badge]

coolef

[remote fossil]

Go sleep

[cobalt prawn]

go get some sleep lmao

[frank kindle]

same

[deft apex]

Light + plasma are glow parents

[cobalt prawn]

Oh so the family tree is a circle

[civic citrus]

[cobalt prawn]

So plasma shreds glow too? Wow

[young badge]

then glow gonna have their siblings

[rose yew]

Yes just like egg to chicken then back to egg

[deft apex]

And there are no unique glow buffs/shred, at least not yet

[cobalt prawn]

Like royal family… 💀

[young badge]

https://tenor.com/view/rick-and-morty-sweet-home-alabama-gif-9637175

[fresh plover]

Alpha prefered weapon reso is dlt right? I slapped that one on way back when and never actually verified if it was correct

[remote fossil]

Like i said earlier, people will use plasma in ib glow

[cobalt prawn]

Oh ok

[young badge]

yes

[deft apex]

Ib glow is just plasma and light buffs

[fresh plover]

It allows double ult rotation so you have less 21 field time so it felt correct

[cobalt prawn]

Is it cuz it’s actually better at equal invest or do ppl just have more highly invested plasma teams so it ends up scoring higher at that breakpoint?

[deft apex]

So it makes sense ion is used, its just better than glow

[stray siren]

Well time for plasma Karen again

[pine flare]

chat is alpha leaped with darkflow stronger?

[cobalt prawn]

Nvm, I see

[remote fossil]

Well who have sss feral?

[deft apex]

No

[stray siren]

No, u use Karen as third member for Darkflow

[deft apex]

Cw is still very much dead

[deft apex]

Karen dead, no more shred stacking from what I heard

[stray siren]

Unless Watanabe is already fixed

[civic citrus]

Me w my S feral

[rocky wedge]

feral is literally a dog now too

[deft apex]

Now u actually use cw, which is just dead

[pine flare]

i see, i thought so

[remote fossil]

Fk that

[stray siren]

[cobalt prawn]

I hope Veronica is dark tank

[remote fossil]

They really want cw get in df the fk

[civic citrus]

Lightning amp

[fresh plover]

4 more years of daren

[civic citrus]

Karenina shall be like Rosetta and plume.

[cobalt prawn]

We need ice amp too. Sm units that need replacing, not sure why dark attacker got placed before them

[rocky wedge]

4 letters x)

[pine flare]

poor lamia I really loved her design

[rocky wedge]

but feral might be worse than karen now unless she randomly gets leaped

[deft apex]

Feral was always kinda mid ngl

[fresh plover]

The priority for replacement rn are dark tank/light atk+amp/ice amp?

[fresh plover]

She should always have been like her leaped version

[pine flare]

feral is just qte bot right? theres no other build than 4dv2guin

[young badge]

phys amp

[cobalt prawn]

Yeah. Light is completely held together by nanami being hilariously strong lol

[remote fossil]

Extra 10% buff from sig, and really need sss to really be comfortable qte bot, sigh

[cobalt prawn]

I feel like Alisa is still completely fine

[stray siren]

Verónica Lightning amp, so now CW is necessary in Team Lightning again and Kurogame revives her in lightning and darkflow

[rocky wedge]

think the problem with light amp now is it will kick alpha lmao or make her qte bot

[cobalt prawn]

Like yes she does very little on-field dmg but that 100% crit buff is amazing

[solemn spoke]

always been

[deft apex]

Going by age? Dark tank > ice amp > light attacker > light amp > phys amp

[rocky wedge]

so maybe dark tank / ice amp > light amp > light attacker would be nice

[cobalt prawn]

There’s no way she’s an amp. That whole aesthetic screams tank

[deft apex]

Those are all the remaining gen 2

[remote fossil]

Vera?

[cobalt prawn]

Veronica

[stray siren]

Kurogames does the opposite of aesthetics

[remote fossil]

She always bruiser support

[stray siren]

haven't you seen the meme ?

[cobalt prawn]

Ig that’s true

[rocky wedge]

they think they are funny

[fresh plover]

Do we know what veronica as a construct will look like? Haven't done story in a while

[deft apex]

If new liv is ice/glow amp she might already kill feral lol

[cobalt prawn]

Yeah she lost all her armour

[solemn spoke]

do you actually care about aesthetics matching the gameplay mechanics

[remote fossil]

Funny with more bugs for this patch like pgr just released for a day lol

[cobalt prawn]

I like it when it makes sense yeah

[stray siren]

I would believe more in Liv Dark Tank because she has the aesthetic of peace and whiteness

[remote fossil]

Now people cant buy hervor set due to bug

[rocky wedge]

characters could die in qte on day 1 of global xd

[cobalt prawn]

LMAO that’d be the funniest thing. I will SSS+ her if that ends up happening

[civic citrus]

WHITENESS

[rocky wedge]

been common since then which is ahhhh

[deft apex]

Dam I remember that

Feelsoldman

[solemn spoke]

ngl would be funny having a whole ass unit but instead of tanking they just support the team

[rocky wedge]

ye musashi sword wave would just destroy ur qte char

[cobalt prawn]

They’re beefy so they can hold supplies and first aid kits

[solemn spoke]

“cmon guys you can do it no I can’t go on the battlefield”

meanwhile 3x bulkier than them

[cobalt prawn]

There’s gotta be some 12 ep isekai with that theme

[young badge]

redo of healer

[cobalt prawn]

Bruh

[solemn spoke]

how

[deft apex]

Omg jackpot

Claimed

[remote fossil]

<@&595893856554319873>

[pearl solstice]

?

How are the other mods so fast

[solemn spoke]

I wanted to save it

mods can you send dms for research purposes

[deft apex]

Bruh u aint saving nothing I claimed too fast

[pearl solstice]

Lol

[cobalt prawn]

Hi 🍴

[deft apex]

Lock in

[cobalt prawn]

Interesting choice of words

[solemn spoke]

the food is too good

oh

[cobalt prawn]

🤣🤣bro deleted it

[gilded flint]

Vergil Blue First Swap
Swap > Blue, Hold basic first charge
Ult 1
Directional Dodge > Hold basic until 120 points and get thrust forward
Ult 2
Blue, Hold basic first charge
Ult 1
Directional Dodge > Hold basic until 120 points and get thrust forward
Ult 2
Blue, Hold basic first charge > Swap

This is what Shi Yori does on Vergil, If you want more rots Ill send in your dms
Im still working out Vergils 2nd rot onwards so give me some time

[solemn spoke]

it sounded very wrong

[cobalt prawn]

I was confused until u mentioned food

[solemn spoke]

happy hour already passed now its food time

[cobalt prawn]

After exam tmrw.. gonna mald simulacrum until im top 1

[rocky wedge]

💀

[stray siren]

When PGR was good

[rocky wedge]

xd

[remote fossil]

I remembered malding for hours just to give up

[rocky wedge]

i malded way too much back then

[visual topaz]

u should mald nowadays IB instead

on 444 invest

[rocky wedge]

i remember dread mald musashi for 9hrs straight before as well

physical with 30% crit rate lmao

[civic citrus]

NINE HOURS

[distant barn]

i was thinking this days,when the characters became a nuclear bomb wiyh wife dress...

[rocky wedge]

ye endd and i malded roseblade for 4hrs before with alpha Dx

take small breaks but ye after break back at the restart button weeeee

[civic citrus]

Tbh it can’t be worse than genshin 12 hour exploration

[rocky wedge]

HMMMMMMMMMMM maybe maybe maybe xdd could be close who knows lmao

[cobalt prawn]

Omggg the good old days of alpha

[rocky wedge]

cause wow that was some really gnarly stuff argg

[civic citrus]

Id rather mald pgr than explore in genshin

[rocky wedge]

ye but this kinda mald was not normal

[stray siren]

WZ and PPC malder are built differently

[rocky wedge]

the game back then was completely garbage

[civic citrus]

I see. How long ago was this

[cobalt prawn]

I forgot how clunky the gen 1 units are

[rocky wedge]

a lot of rng like ridiculous amount since no pseudo random

[civic citrus]

Oh gen 1. I started during Daren banner lol

[cobalt prawn]

Imagine consuming every last orb from 1 rot🤣 and orb rng lowkey Qukra still has that issue

[rocky wedge]

can start a round with only red orbs with plume which is most of her damage or with full blue orbs which will make a terrible result

[visual topaz]

i spent hundreds/thousands hours malding adv

[stray siren]

I miss RNG orbs, I think that's why Dark Team is still my favorite team, because Lamia has that touch

[cobalt prawn]

I hate it. I want Qukra to be replaced💀

[rocky wedge]

and the chance for what u want generally is always not that high : D

[cobalt prawn]

Also why can she be knocked back during her hold basic animation💀

[rocky wedge]

https://tenor.com/view/tom-and-jerry-gif-26736050

[remote fossil]

Well we are too used with no orb rng nowadays

No more candy crush style

[young badge]

lamia? ❌
luna ✅

[rocky wedge]

no more please im good

2-3 years was enough

[cobalt prawn]

When I first returned to the game during Ishy’s patch, I had to use Alpha for phys PPC

[rocky wedge]

just play veritas somewhere if u want orb rng

[solemn spoke]

erm

[young badge]

wut

[cobalt prawn]

She could not kill that boss in time🤣🤣🤣

[civic citrus]

And I thought bambinata was annoying to use lol

[solemn spoke]

dante has 4 shakespeare 2 cottie right

[young badge]

yea?

[solemn spoke]

L*na

[cobalt prawn]

And harmo 2 cottie yes

[solemn spoke]

ty baby yoda

[crude lava]

what set should i use for wanshi if qu already have 4 chen jiyuan?

[young badge]

luna laurel

[broken elk]

Yea

[cobalt prawn]

Yw whoever ur pfp is (is that a pig?)

[solemn spoke]

yes its a pig

[rocky wedge]

use 4 chen wanshi, 2 chen 2 darwin qu

[cobalt prawn]

🥹

[civic citrus]

No it’s a labubu

[river nymph]

[stray siren]

||🔵🔵🔵🔵🔵🔵🔵
🔴🔵🔵🔵🔵🔵🔵
🔵🔴🔴🔴🔵🔵🔵
🔴🔵🔵🔵🔴🔴🔴
🔵🔴🔴🔴🔴🔴🔴
🔴🔴🔵🔵🔴🔴🔴
🔵🔵🔵🔴🔴🔴🔴||

[solemn spoke]

bro actually knows it

[hazy sandal]

No use 2fred 2darwin qu

[civic citrus]

[broken elk]

Me when candycrush

[solemn spoke]

phd in brainrot

[crude lava]

it's most optimal way?

[rocky wedge]

oh did that end up being better in wz?

[civic citrus]

I hope they can ban labubus one day it’s getting ridiculous

[hazy sandal]

No am trolling

[rocky wedge]

[broken elk]

Get

[rocky wedge]

damn i was hoping sadge ♿

[broken elk]

What's a labewbew

[hazy sandal]

https://youtu.be/B1VwcgAVURs?si=WTeTPsuMJtEIZr-B

but in ib

[civic citrus]

[stray siren]

Technically Lamia is candycrush 2.0

[rocky wedge]

yes unless qu is SSS or higher rank

[broken elk]

Sh is so 2023-2024 here in my country 💀

[rocky wedge]

ye i remember seeing this when u first posted it xd thumbnail game on point xd

[cobalt prawn]

I think my Wanshi is doing more dmg than qu

[rocky wedge]

sss does more damage ye

[cobalt prawn]

He is SSS and qu is SS0 so that’s prob why. But still🤣

[cobalt vigil]

do I pull dante or vergil first (I might not be able to get both)

[errant fable]

i did the warzone and ppc while the weeklies were bugged is there a way to clear it for the "first" time or do i have to wait this week out

[cobalt prawn]

Vergil is higher value from what most ppl said.. ig since nanami can solo ignition

[cobalt vigil]

okay good he's my goat

[cobalt prawn]

But she needs to be pretty invested to do that

[cobalt vigil]

mine ss3 r2 cub I thik she can?

[broken elk]

At least ss0 r1 cub or a tad bit higher

[cobalt prawn]

Oh I thought u needed SSS lmao. Nvm then

[rocky wedge]

no

[cobalt vigil]

I want to swipe on this patch but kuro wont let me

[broken elk]

U could just ss3 and save yourself the headache

[cobalt prawn]

I have her at ss3 r2 cub as well

[young badge]

whats ss0 vergil score on ts? 22.33

[rocky wedge]

ss3 can score like 7m+ solo with SSS lilith or vera

[cobalt prawn]

Goddamn. I shouldn’t have pulled for dante

[rocky wedge]

well dante could probably push that higher

[cobalt prawn]

I didn’t knowwww I thought u needed SSS for the 7m

[cobalt vigil]

dante and vergil must score high asf in their respective places

[rocky wedge]

generally he would be worse because in ppc there is no burn boss (yet) but there is a true slash one

[broken elk]

I don't even have 3s lilith

[cobalt vigil]

my normal ele teams CANNOT go 7m

[cobalt prawn]

Mine can’t either, except for phys cuz ss3 selena

[broken elk]

Man they fr want me to pull vergil

[rocky wedge]

but ppc is more slack with how rewards work now so its up to you what u want

[cobalt prawn]

Yea I’ll end up getting them both anyways. I’ll be interested to see how I score next week.
Do I use vera if she’s ss0 or is SSS Lilith better even with Dante + nanami?

[broken elk]

I might just get dante and deal with it

[crude lava]

and reso is signature? also i need like 2 sets to reso class skill for glaciation and zaza?

[remote fossil]

Should i better solo nanami (sss) or use with pyro (sss) and vera (ss3) for burn?

[fluid gulch]

Solo nanami ofc if it's for burn

[rocky wedge]

ye for glacio, ice - sig move ye

[cobalt prawn]

I’m down to my last sig USB I’m so cooked

[broken elk]

I have at least 2 sig usbs

[cobalt prawn]

Gonna have to use it for Vergil and my Wanshi still r0🫠🫠🫠

[rocky wedge]

sig move works well generally though

[broken elk]

And 13.. memory usbs...

[cobalt vigil]

my dumbass double resonating people during the higher reward patches thinking I was loaded

[rocky wedge]

class i think also isnt that bad since it also benefits him so better ig to have that first - or just have one set, it wont ruin ur account if it must be that way

[river nymph]

[cobalt prawn]

I’m not even f2p but the USBs are hard to buy. Apart from the weapon pass there’s only the rly bad value bundle (which I’ll never buy)

[broken elk]

I've only r2'd 2 units

[rocky wedge]

solo nana, if u have sss lilith then u can use her + luna instead of vera + lucia

[cobalt prawn]

I do have the weapon pass going rn tho, another 70 days and I’ll have a usb🤣🤣🤣

[broken elk]

Just.. 2 (im broke asl)

[rocky wedge]

luna will convert the buff from sss lilith for nanami

[cobalt prawn]

• the Norman stuff ig

[rocky wedge]

ss3 vera and lilith would be the same

[cobalt vigil]

I think I did ishmael, nanaknight, lillith and hanying

[broken elk]

WHY

[cobalt vigil]

shrug emoji

[cobalt prawn]

Amps first bro

[broken elk]

Nonono nanaknight i could see and so does amps

[remote fossil]

Guess will do burn the same with lightning

[broken elk]

But like... man i think that's a little too much, no?

[remote fossil]

Just gotta need to build cottie, uh later

[cobalt vigil]

I had like 6 sitting there and thought id be silly

[rocky wedge]

well all those characters need dlt

[broken elk]

What. Solo nana?

[river nymph]

[fluid gulch]

Nanami is always there for me when I need her the most

[cobalt vigil]

now im bricked gg

[remote fossil]

Yeah

[cobalt vigil]

bricked as in account bricked...

[remote fossil]

She always be there for us now

[fluid gulch]

I hope they start pumping out replacements for collab units asap

[broken elk]

My account is more bricked if you check my huaxu in my bio

[cobalt prawn]

Solo nana in every team

[cobalt vigil]

okay maybe a bit but you're newer

[cobalt prawn]

I swear that character is actually ridiculous. And her kit is so simple too lmao

[cobalt vigil]

nerf nana so I can feel like I didn't waste bc pulling alpha skin

[cobalt prawn]

One girl army fr

[river nymph]

[fluid gulch]

That's right, I want to see them powercrept as soon as possible

[remote fossil]

She's too viable while cw and feral mid

[cobalt prawn]

Wait for lightning can I run nana Luna Lilith if Lilith SSS. That’s gotta be better than SS feral and CW right?

[frosty cave]

whats dante's and vergils build

[broken elk]

U could run alisa off element..

[remote fossil]

Yeah, and my wz score this week reached 7.5 mil on legend with her solo

[river nymph]

[broken elk]

The hell is cw gon do? Wash the dishes?

[cobalt prawn]

Alisa SS5

[river nymph]

can we kill cw already

[cobalt vigil]

NO!

[broken elk]

Nah. It's kuro's cash cow

[river nymph]

[cobalt prawn]

Oooh ok I try that then cuz I only got 4m with ss3 nana lmao

[cobalt vigil]

give her a 2nd leap upgrade

[stray siren]

In the morning I was trying to see which is the best f2p option. And I wrote this

Utility of the new S ranks (Gacha only)

Nanami > Lightning DPS, Burn DPS, Ion tank, Glow tank, Fire tank, Dark tank, Void Tank

Pyroath > Fire subDPS, Ion DPS

Geiravor > Fire DPS, Void Support (SS3 Ish)

Selena > Phys DPS, Glacio DPS

Luna > subDPS void, General QTE slave

Ishmael > DPS void, general QTE slave

F2P teams functional with the least amount of weapons available

Element/Affix: DPS + SubDPS + Supp/QTE slave | Sig = signature weapon

Fire: Gei (Sig) + Pyro + Nanami (Sig)

Ion: Pyro (Sig)¹ + Nanami (Sig) + Lilith (Sig)

Burn: Solo Nanami (Sig) + Lilith (Sig) + Luna

Lightning: Solo Nanami (Sig) + Lilith (Sig) + Luna

Dark: Lilith (Sig) + Nanami (Sig) + Luna

Void: Ishmael (Sig) + Nanami (Sig) + Luna

Glacio: Selena (Sig)¹ + Wanshi + Alisa (sig)

Ice: Solo Wanshi + Luna/Ice attacker + Ishmael (Sig)

Phys: Selena (Sig)¹ + Hanying (Sig) + Alisa (Sig)

TS: Vergil/Bianca/Discord (Sig) + Hanying (Sig) + Alisa (Sig)

---

¹They probably work fine without signature weapon

[river nymph]

they already milked her

[cobalt prawn]

Wadafuq

[broken elk]

I hope umbra isn't cooked
The cw:

[river nymph]

this has to be bannable

[fluid gulch]

holy yapachino

[broken elk]

Then again uncle is getting a leap

[remote fossil]

U can get to 5 mil even in hero, before this i had her ss3 with just dlt

[cobalt vigil]

oh shet really

[cobalt prawn]

U should put that in a colour coded spreadsheet and screenshot the table. Way easier

[stray siren]

Nanami wins

[remote fossil]

She really busted

[river nymph]

it queso is gonna do one thing, its gonna be send a wall of text

[stray siren]

Yeah, I was thinking that

[broken elk]

Yes

[cobalt vigil]

I need color coded with bright pink and green otherwise I can't understand it, also big arrows and red circles

[cobalt prawn]

Maybe I’m overkilling waves or smth

[fluid gulch]

They had to make up for nanamech

[remote fossil]

Haha yeah

[fluid gulch]

I don't even have her

[remote fossil]

One of the chara that got shortest powercrept

[fluid gulch]

I skipped her

[young badge]

guys if i skip vergil my ts is bricked?

[remote fossil]

Yet coming back with being to viable

[stray siren]

TS does not exist for us

[fluid gulch]

What is TS?

[young badge]

https://tenor.com/view/za-warudo-jojo-bizarre-adventure-power-gif-14292027

[river nymph]

ts pmo sm icl💔

[fluid gulch]

There's literally no point playing TS outside of ppc

[cobalt vigil]

i tried to tell u what ts means and my message blocked

[stray siren]

Truetrash

[fluid gulch]

Even then IF you have well invested Selena you can 580k TS boss

[young badge]

but in wz

[fluid gulch]

I just play Phys in wz

[young badge]

some dude with 3s vergil is gonna kick me off

[river nymph]

deserved

[young badge]

🥀

[stray siren]

Vergil fans don't know how to play Warzone

[fluid gulch]

DMC fans don't play WZ, they play Training stage

[stray siren]

Dw

[fluid gulch]

Because it's only place where they can do "cool combos"

[river nymph]

that poor gardener

[young badge]

[river nymph]

god this 15s cd is unplayable

yeah vergil is cooler than dante

more fun to play imo

also why is burn such a scuffed affix

[fluid gulch]

Btw did I mention the patch is DRY ASF

[stray siren]

That's why I have to make walls of text

[deft apex]

But vergil so cool

[fluid gulch]

https://media.discordapp.net/attachments/867718398208245761/1203678282487435334/karenfu.gif

[deft apex]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/695083946597416984/1318581857142439966/an.gif

[fluid gulch]

I might genuinely hate this collab

[river nymph]

why live in hate when you can chose to focus on the positives

[fluid gulch]

SAY MY NAME

[fluid gulch]

Maybe, JUST maybe pierro was right all along

[river nymph]

eww that loser

[stray siren]

Selena lover #1 is Wael

[fluid gulch]

Atleast you can cheese Trial of Simulacrums so it's not that tedious

[stray siren]

Spam simulacrum is funny

[fluid gulch]

Vera the goat

[river nymph]

i like the pacman event

[remote fossil]

Bunch of bugs, bunch of tourists and many more

[fluid gulch]

You just spam block with vera and get gajilions points

[river nymph]

[fluid gulch]

What's that? Timing? Skill? Nah, I just spam

[deft apex]

Im getting gayjillion points instead

[warped axle]

SHINNGGgggg 🗣🔥🔥

[deft apex]

[fluid gulch]

https://tenor.com/view/obama-hold-on-wait-just-wait-gif-17182711

[stray siren]

Yeah that thing is fun too

[river nymph]

i just need them to bring back disco panini

[fluid gulch]

Thank you for crumbs kuro

They HAD to make this a standalone patch huh

[river nymph]

you should just change your name to #1 pgr hater

[fluid gulch]

If they bring back panini I forgive them for all of their crimes

[river nymph]

https://tenor.com/view/pgr-punishing-gray-raven-chibi-vera-pgr-vera-gif-665308665309522163

[stray siren]

Bring back crabsgiving day

[fluid gulch]

I'm too new for that one

[stray siren]

Coop event, you had to control a corrupted crab and kill the other players

[fluid gulch]

Cool

[river nymph]

its kinda sad they removed all the coop games cuz there were some fun ones 😔

[slate gull]

monster hunter?

[knotty island]

Is Dante still playable without getting him in gacha (S rank)

[civic citrus]

Not good

[young badge]

bad

[pine flare]

base s dante only for nostalgia purposes

[civic citrus]

SS for all units minimum

[wintry parcel]

As much as SS rank has become the bare minimum requirement to be "playable"

Funnily enough, both SS rank Dante and Vergil have nothing but damage increase to several attacks and off field damage trigger after casting ult

No energy or signal orbs change whatsoever

I guess that goes the same with further rank ups

But there is the Qte trigger skill on S rank, so that's pretty much what you're looking for after

[young badge]

kuro not paywalling? impossible!

[remote fossil]

That means invest more

[zenith thorn]

never to be seen again

it was just part of your imagination

[civic citrus]

Oh wow

[wintry parcel]

I just double checked it, but Vergil actually gets 3 signal orbs on every swap in

[civic citrus]

Ah ok

[wintry parcel]

But uhhh

You get it basically for free

Signature weapon and weapon resonance skill still gonna be the main thing for their rotation

[civic citrus]

Ok I see. Is dlt enough?

[wintry parcel]

Yes

But I mean how much more you can get after that

[civic citrus]

I will stick to dlt

[crystal crown]

Ty, could you tell me hanyings whenever you're able to?
No rush 🙏🏽🙏🏽

[young folio]

how do you block with vera again? just holding dash?

[rose yew]

Tap dodge without touching the D pad

And then you can instakil with hold signature no matter the enemy hp

[young folio]

alr

[idle grail]

Is Dante's sig worth pulling?

And the cub too

[gilded flint]

How much BC do you have, if you don't have enough, you can play ignition with solo nanami

[idle grail]

I'm fairly new, so I have bc and I don't have nana. I'm planning to get her from the event where u can choose from the 30 s units and I have Pyroath at ss0 and her sig

I just didn't play much so kinda new

[gilded flint]

From a meta standpoint, it is not worth getting dante's sig and cub at that point

[wintry parcel]

It's only worth it if you're planning to get into the end game competitive schemes

Dante can function without them already

[gilded flint]

I heard his cub adds some stuff to his kit tho? Does that just allow for a more optimized rot?

[wintry parcel]

You're gonna be stuck with 1 rotation Dante until you can get signature weapon and Deadline Timing weapon resonance skill anyway

[wintry parcel]

It's not used in an actual practical Warzone/Phantom Pain Cage tun

It barely does anything other than just fancy bike throwing attacks

[idle grail]

I thought u need his sig for double rot and cub for significant dmg boost?

Oh ok

[wintry parcel]

Well let me ask you this

[wintry parcel]

What do you want to do double rot Dante

Instead of one rot Dante

[edgy trench]

whose sig should i get first? nanami startrail or vera? both are my main dps for their elements

[young badge]

dmc patch until 18 september?

[gilded flint]

Nanami sig

Get it only if you have the bc tho

[chrome wind]

nanaknight

[edgy trench]

i dont have the bc

[idle grail]

Now I'm thinking abt it, his double rot is pretty long and I should just swap to others and just go with 1 rot

[wintry parcel]

Double rot Dante is the optimal rotation of Dante to be used in Warzone with a complete team setup to acquire the highest possible score with your investment

[idle grail]

So pull for the sig?

[wintry parcel]

If you still have no plan to get into the competitive side of the game, double rot Dante almost means nothing for you

[idle grail]

Oh

[wintry parcel]

You can play Dante however you like rather than following one fixed rotation made for specific case

They also didn't tell you the actual team cost for that said fixed rotation to actually get you an Optimal score

[slate gull]

i play dante with pyro and vergil!

[idle grail]

Does nana need investment for ignition?

[wintry parcel]

Yes

That's pretty much how it goes to basically almost any team in the game

[slate gull]

dont tell me what to do. i know how to play him!

[chrome wind]

ss0 with weapon resonance is enough

[wintry parcel]

Well, let's just make this more simply

[gilded flint]

At least SS no sig needed tbh

For it to be playable

[idle grail]

I think I'll wait for sometime and decide for Dante's sig, but I'll get the cub for sure tho. Playing Dante without cavaliere feels wrong.

[gilded flint]

You do you jit and have fun

[idle grail]

Thanks guys, for the info

[slate gull]

playing dante and vergil in pgr just feels wrong. better play them in dmc5

[wintry parcel]

Dante weapon both for the 5 star and 6 star variants have 0 difference in design, it won't make it weird

Dante can function without his signature weapon already unless you're trying to play him optimally within a limited time.

The only reason you would pull his signature weapon is if you wanted to play Dante optimally rather than just good enough the way he already is

And only you who can decide that

[idle grail]

Ok thanks

[humble relic]

what should i put on my Yata Fulgor if i wanna play her on glaciation?

[gilded flint]

Does Yata have the glaciation affix? I don't remember

[young badge]

i bricked my future dark for nanami 😭

[humble relic]

yup

[broken elk]

Yep

[gilded flint]

Do you have Selena Pianissimo, if you do, you dont' play her in glaciation
If you don't slot her in with Wanshi Lucid Dreamer and Alisa Echo

[humble relic]

no i meant the memories

and i don't have Selena, wasn't interested enough on her

[gilded flint]

4 klevnova 4 cottie Ig, or check the bot if it has a glaciation in build in it at bot help

For teams that aren't the current meta glb teams go to General help

[stray siren]

Bianca SS0 probably won't work without Karen SS3

So SSS nanameme wins on Dark

[young badge]

damn

[chrome wind]

does ss3 nanami work in dark?

[remote fossil]

With luna, it works

I zaza with lilith-nanami-luna

[stray siren]

Sss wanshi better

[wintry parcel]

You can try 4 Piece Chen Jiyuan and 2 Piece Darwin I guess

[chrome wind]

i dont have luna

[broken elk]

Wym you don't have luna

[snow steppe]

Whats the best ss0 vergil guide?/ rot

[wintry parcel]

I don't know

I think I know, but I don't

[chrome wind]

i dint play in her update i was busy

[gilded flint]

I gotchu jit, 90% complete and asking whether it is optimized

[gilded flint]

Give me a moment

[snow steppe]

Okay

[timid tree]

Which one should I focus on? Selena Physical team with solacetune, or glaciation team?

[wintry parcel]

You can focus with Physical first because it's more general than Glacio I guess

[chrome wind]

both in glacio alisa and wanshi is free

[timid tree]

Yeah I'm planning to get Alisa first, and it needs time again to get wanshi

[chrome wind]

kuro forgot glacio exist

[timid tree]

Does the overall results different when using glacio team rather than physical team on wz?

[chrome wind]

they have different zone so it does matter

[timid tree]

Ooooh I see, aight then

Thank you

[chrome wind]

build physical now if you have sole

[timid tree]

I don't have it yet, and I heard that there's free s selector on bianca's new frame patch

[chrome wind]

she is not there

[wintry parcel]

I don't think Solacetune would be available in that free selector

[chrome wind]

only up to shukra

[timid tree]

Wha

And here I am saving for bianca..., guess I'll wait for wanshi then

[stray siren]

Glaciation is technically free if you have Selena, just farm Wanshi and Alisa

[gilded flint]

Yo, can you open up a message request for me, I tried sending it to you, but it got blocked

[snow steppe]

Ok

Hold on

Thanks 🙏🏾

[river nymph]

is vergil the goat?

[wary thicket]

Would getting the new ish skin without her weapon skin
Makes me lose out on the battle sfx or is the weapon skin doesn't really factor in the battel sfx and is just a look coating

[maiden sleet]

is there a signature weapon priority list? rn i can only get one, and im assuming i should get it for one of hese chars: ss3 solacetune, ss echo, ss pyroath, ss6 lucid dreamer, ss epitaph, ss feral, ss geiravor

[woven oracle]

Wanshi or luna weap

[tight crescent]

I just started yesterday and this is the only team I have, what team should I prioritize next?

[wary thicket]

@maiden sleet do you have shukra and sig
Or selena and sig ?

Btw alisa and feral shouldn't be a concern

[maiden sleet]

i dont have selena or shukra 🤧🤧

my ice team is just lucid dreamer as dps, kaleido support and hypnos 🫩

[wary thicket]

Well here's wht we have getting weap for dps of the time sounds about right

Wanshi gets huge DMG boost from his weapon

Vera is the main dps for fire team rn

Solacetune I dont think is tht much of a big deal wht her weapon mainly does is let her have 3 stacks of ult rather than 2

So you really wanna get one of these

Are you getting vergil ?

[chrome wind]

is voucher rewards will be affected in x1 weekly?

[dreamy pelican]

weapon for dmg dealers purely for dmg is arguably horrible for people who are just starting

get weapons for people who need it to function, like selena pianissimo or qu shukra

[wary thicket]

He doesn't have tht I made sure to ask

Thts my go to as well if it locks a function get it first

[remote fossil]

Coating is what makes it have sfx, weap are just to match the coating theme, tho kinda weird if u miss weap

[wintry parcel]

#📨・general-help message

[dreamy pelican]

pyroath is considered kind of low prio in this regard due to her dmg being less than vera and vera being able to solo

[wintry parcel]

Plasma Beam

[maiden sleet]

i have vergil sss, cub and sig

[dreamy pelican]

i doubt dmc fans and new players are gonna touch ion anytime soon

focus on the other weapons first id say

[wary thicket]

@maiden sleet ah so he can main dps your physical team

Yep

[dreamy pelican]

get deadline timing too, it is necessary for his rotations

[maiden sleet]

yeah i have his three resonances alrwady

[dreamy pelican]

holy bricked

[icy otter]

Is wata 3 stack short ult ever relevant?

[maiden sleet]

i started only for vergil 3 momths ago lol

[dreamy pelican]

its time to run vergil in lightning wz, get 1m score and get dumpstered by a half decent nanami invest

it is the rite of passage for all dmc fans

[wary thicket]

@icy otter never saw it getting any actual usage tbf
Ppls hope of it being relevant with darkflow also shattered

[icy otter]

3 blaze is kind of a timeloss no?

[dreamy pelican]

is this talking about fire or umbra

[wintry parcel]

The thing with Geiravor signature weapon is that, even though she's really broken in the fire team, when you do actually own both Geiravor and Pyroath, you won't have to do solo Dps Geiravor to be actually required to get her signature weapon

Geiravor will certainly increase your fire team performance, but for now that's about it

Getting Pyroath signature weapon will benefit both Fire element and Plasma Beam eventually when they reach that level later in the end game stage

[icy otter]

And that's on first ult, second ult 5 blaze is just 💀 🙏

[icy otter]

Fire

[wary thicket]

@icy otter the fact tht PPL still do it is defn becuz it's better still
Also there's slight faster inputs here and there

[icy otter]

I see I see

Wata wouldn't need to double ult if I hadn't bricked by getting Selena instead of vera

[slate gull]

as long as they can style in wz

[maiden sleet]

im level like 97

so like whos sig shouldi get then 🧍‍♂️

[dreamy pelican]

but by getting pyroath signature before other signatures you are actively harming your account by not linearly investing. you are pretty much sacrificing one element to get a better score in another, and with how pgr works, thats really bad

solo dps geiravor is infinitely better than not having selena's weapon because you went for pyroath first

is it still necessary? yes. is it a priority? when compared to other signatures, no.

[slate gull]

just buy them all

[dreamy pelican]

this is also true for shukra. while it is important to have her sig, other people/teams who cant solo and need their signature comes first.

[wary thicket]

Weapons are always up for takes so getting it to benefit plasma shouldn't be done
It can be taken later on
Not a need so early

[gilded flint]

Do you guys think that Vergil in SDT mode can clear multiple early waves with that one fast moving dodge atk, and the combo where you JCE in the air and do the stuff on the ground too

Im so excited for Trueslash next week and to talk to Shi Yori

[chrome wind]

Whats the average score of ss3 nanami solo in lightning?

[zenith thorn]

solo weave op

[wintry parcel]

I've seen a 6 million score with SS3 rank Startrail

Not really sure if it was Hero or Legend tier

[chrome wind]

Dammn

[dreamy pelican]

with nana weather its 6~

[stray siren]

Sss Lilith + Luna, like 6.2 M

[chrome wind]

I think my highest before 5.5m without luna

[dreamy pelican]

you can even get 6.9-7 if you hate your life and mald for a living

[zenith thorn]

Glad to see all new gen unit is op balter solo op, wata solo op, cw solo op, lamia solo op, qu solo op, luna solo op, hanying solo op, wanshi solo op, lucia solo op, ishmael solo op, lillith solo op, selena solo op, dmc solo op,walter solo op

[chrome wind]

Sadly i dont have luna

[wintry parcel]

Not having Oblivion for a Solo Dps Startrail is very unfortunate

[icy otter]

Probably negative damage

[dreamy pelican]

walter and solo op in the same sentence

[dreamy pelican]

ngl cuh you are gonna deal negative dmg

[wintry parcel]

It actually has more buff compared to using normal Amplifier/buffer in the team when paired with the new generation Amplifier

[dreamy pelican]

might as well never touch warzone with that take