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btw that quad cub pull is DIABOLICAL
arent the leap characters the ones in shard selector and free characters not
i find dante more fun than ST and at equal invest/high invest, which is cheaper for dante, theyre more or less equal. more power to people that just wanna use nanami tho

they arent equal, nana will beat dante if they both had to solo - dante needs nanami, nanami doesnt need dante necessarily and dante is for burn only. Nanami can be used in 3 MORE teams + fire even, so its no brainer xd
Its better to get 3s echo in the bp shard and save voucher for epitaph 3s
there is no burn ppc boss too no?
I got excessive bp shards when is the next char gonna get added you know?
Ye I think, idk any new in cn for burn boss yet
i was only talking about ignition, i thought that was clear since this was about ignition wz
factually wrong
ye but generally dante isnt better, he needs nanami and nanami is better than he is solo
@lusty minnow wata will be added during his leap to bp shards
literally what I was saying people confuse me
Then either way is work. But imma 3s cw first 
tspmo 🥀
what u suggest to me then 
🥀
S+ Vergil for 🧱
i see an imposto
3s epitaph next 
i mean yeah, i will have vouchers for it
but what about bp shards
from current bp
when is he getting leaped btw in the bianca dual patch or after?
Spend to whoever
bianca
discord patch - which gonna be in synchro with walter for us
Daren 4ever 
Impostos? Why is it always about taxes 
I see so just gotta be patient with my bp shards, don’t need to SSS stinky alphawho
What
yes
she aint even born
Lmao
Get her on anniv
no, i prefer getting juiced walter
my next gen tank for dark
cooking a double meal 👨🍳
daren my beloved
Anyway when Veronica beta?
first character to get a double leap instead of be replaced, watch
And Liv?
should I just use blue base banner pity since a selector isn’t in near future?
Discord still in beta, so expect around late sept
i already pity stacked 1/3rd 
what u got before that
feral from random
Liv too?
I got cw from random so get sss but homeless
so its all trash I can get basically
Dunno maybe in nov?
I see
watch me get hyperreal
luminance
Next patch is dual patch?
gonna puke
lmao
The most possible one

Alr
im not qualified to help ppl 
just double check 

dw everyone makes mistake
what's better for Vergi
4 Patton 4 Cottie
or
4 Patton 4 Condelina
just don’t double down without reconsidering other arguments/opinion
pat cot
now that i think about it every leap got their shards in bp
Yes
Yea, that's how it goes
my new fav emote
Wow, better than Dante
I was about to say are troll posts in trophy room allowed
have to flex with my relic
also the amount of luna offrates in trophy

Is the attack up or attack % better for your cub skill?
is there any reason to get vergil or dante to sss?
last 2 for s cubs
Is 4x klenova 2x cottie better in glacio for selena?
Sss cub
go last 3 then
ss3? also where sig with harmo at
Sss
It’s got 4 skills, that’s why I’m asking what’s better between flat attack or the % up cause those are the only 2 for the last
skill
zaza
Are u asking for which sets are better between 4 burana 4 klenova and 4 burana 2 klenova 2 cottie?
Yeah
Thats magma invest question
Plus I think Vergil’s cub skills are off compared to the order of normal cubs

My current memory for glacio selena 4x burana 2x klenova 2x cottie
Which of the 2 brothers benefits more from getting them to SSS?(Vergil or Dante)
Dunno, i personally use 4 klenova but im ss3
weekly missions got fixed or still bugged? 
Most likely fixed tomorrow reset
Iirc someone said sss use 2 cottie 2 klenova for some reason
btw no compensation for this bug is diabolical 
confirmed?

I mean, u will get back for skipping, but someone who did it will gain 1k more from the looks of announcement
They had a notice in game that’s like if you had missions before it happened cool, but were resetting weekly’s
I have 2x kelenova hypertuned just in case
I read the screenshots of the notice somewhere. it did not have any mention of compensation whatsoever.
Last paragraph
Need to wait for others to online to give u an answer
thats scam 
dude we were supposed to get 3k this week 1k next week
total 4k
normally anybody who did not touch will still get 4k overall
no compensation for bug itself.
Instead we will get 1k this week, 3k next week. While someone who didnt skip will get 1k this week and next one
Or they miss typed that announcement and those who claimed wont have next week missions
Time will show
Yea I did 3 ppc out of 9 and that was it. I missed the rest of that ppc rewards for weekly missions
I confuse
This will cause more dissapointment
Glb already being shunned to oblivion 
thats not what I am talking about. do not get confused.
my point is we will get what we were normally getting anyway from the weekly missions but this is a big bug and should have been compensated at least 500 extra bc. do u get it now?
You won’t get it if you missed any weeklies before the bug happened
we r 9th class citizen what do u expect
U just want free stuff 
if thats what u want to take from the isssue yea take it but a bug is a bug if it happened in cn they would be getting a 10 pull right then & there
lilick 3s before more invest in wangshi
Both 3s already
3s echo?
And I have vouchers already for 3s wata on leap release
Yes 3s echo 

just save dude. 3s crepes next
i have almost 40 pulls in tickets should i spend my spare BC from the DMC event in SS3 lucia?
They always like that, cover up 3 women get thousands bc/tix while us dont even hit a thousand sometimes
So put hope low
ss3 lucia is not a big priority. do u have ss3 nanami yet?
nope
Wym crepes 
so better try to get SS3 nanami?
- Nanami: Startrail
- Selena: Pianissimo
- Lucia: Pyroath
- Ishmael: Parhelion
- Hanying: Solacetune
- Vera: Geiravor
Read that
also save for bianca anyway cus 40 pulls in tickets is not enough 
I don't expect anything from pgr at this point tbh. the game state is a$$ and the treatment of global server has always been a$$, from my experience of these past 3 years and 2 months
I am only here cus of sunk cost fallacy
Yes they treat wuwa too well that even their fans are becoming cult at this point, but we as glb pgr players knew that kuro always leaves us alone in dustbin
yeah man 
while waiting for dark bianca right now is how good is jetavie as a dark attacker and is lamia still better than jetavie?
Ohh
I just found it hard way
As much as you can bruteforce off element in a Nihil stage, affix does not work the same
Affix damage gets a massive penalty
I guess they are just treated differently
Yes lamia still better than jetavie
My vergil is sss with sig and cub but hanying is s without sig nor cub, do i skip her rot and go straight to alisa?
What build should I be putting on Vergil?
I don't think rotation should be any of your concern if you have a SSS rank Vergil with a S rank Solacetune
Play however you like
Click this thread
Best char to get on anniv?
whichever meta unit you are missing
@frank kindle HOLY MOLY, i got her on blue banner
Ummmm idk which meta unit tho
get nanami startrail
well one of those is free
whoever you need is a good start
Thanks for the help
Give me ur luck man, my blue banner always gives me older charas that i endup becoming collector

I still don't know who I should use my S rank blue banner pick on
now my selena is ss3 
who you alr got?
I didnt realize that the thunderbolt cost 15k bc, so I might get nanami from the blue banner. Not sure if it's worth
thunderbolt manual is worth it
Well both equally worth it
thunder bolt is perm, you can slowly work for it
blue banner updates, keep that in mind
but if you want nanami now then use blue banner
I stopped playing in lamia, and came 6 days before last patch ended. I got vera and Selena, wata from the selector, Lilith free, Wanshi from dorm, and I think that's it
all in 3s nanami or get ss3 pyroath and stop?
Yh that's why I want to save it, my teams are just horrible rn though, but I will just cope ig
And I need to save for my Bianca, so no spending bc on thunder bolt
nana from tb is not a bad choice
U have ss6 now?
you can work towards it passively too
If u want
the thing is supply pack this patch for all collab 
Here is my account https://huaxu.app/eu/players/17617748/characters
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Damn
i see youre bianca simp
Thats pretty obv
Is dante ok with just 5* or do you really need sig?
He's already functional with a 5 Star weapon
Good enough for me
You would need his signature weapon when you need a case to do double rotation with him
Nevermind i will get his sig
i just realize, no spending event this patch
do you want to have the +crit resonance on solacetunes
i just top up to get vegril 30 shard pack, now i need to think should i top up again to get 3s nanami or not 
Ur a whale nath
no, you just need echo for 100% crit
It doesn't matter if you have Echo in the team
Im broke to pay
i just bought a new pc
i am gonna run on rice for the next 2 weeks
HOW DO YOU RUN OUT OF RICE
run on rice

not out of it 
he mean he gonna eat white rice with soy souce whole month 
I did not read that correct yo mb
global moment
Na bro
what memories for vergil?
Just plain ol white rice with fried air

Click this thread
Patton.
It's not like he has a Unique Set. XD
Salt water soup
men idk should i top up or not cause there no supply pack for yellow ticket, and i need to buy raw bc 
There's not much hope
top up bonuses reset this patch so its kind of not a scam if you buy bc directly 
im stuck here, should i swipe again for 3s nanami(mine ss3) or ss3 pyroath 
Ss3 pyroath no balls
Anyway...
Just go with pyroath then, have fun doing 5 slash on plasma
ion wz actually fun ngl 
Just have to time it right lmao
12 seconds is enough for like 2s1e on ss0 r2 for me
I hate the timing, either i misclick ult or misclick hold ba
i always time it right, or im pre timing every hold ult and tap ult 
I got Carlotta and Zhezi
Yea
????????
But you can get Zani ig
I think that's the wrong- ykw let him be

bro is onto something
Urgh wrong server bro
Onto something? Nah he's on something for sure
ill get cartethyia from anni banner
Crazy
She's not on the banner
you're not on the banner
*Your

is there a memory set i can use for yata glaciation? i dont want to use heisen
ts is fun 
You have to be an elementary student to say that
whats the glacio build for sss selena?
sybau
sig + cottie + glacia 2pc
Yall is vergil strong? Worth pulling?
for true slash only
yeah if you wan the best true slash team
Which infinitas orb for solacetune
Ik but is he strong? Like do holy ass damage?
Just for Ultima slash.
is there a memory set for yata glaciation. i dont want to use heisen
I'm mean... For Ultima slash weakness 
he is meta in trueslash but in physical he is weak
In summary
He's mid for anything else besides Ultima slash
Actually 2:10 is my CR with Ultima slash.
But Still some teams are better
He is the trueslash dps
But sucks at everything
Even parenting
It doesn't matter, Hanying works with white orbs, so you will always have white orbs at the start and you decide to spend them by pressing red x1 or yellow x3
i see just wanted to make sure im not on wrong one ty
Np
r there gonna be any more dmc packs or are the ones that just dropped it
also why are there so few events
Collab
It'll be normal within a month
collab like filter patch 
*saving patch
I didn't check but do these dmcring chars have CN/JP voices? or only EN?
Okay whale
only eng
Only EN as far as I know
Even the CN beta were using EN lines
I hoped to change to CN/JP so that I spare myself from understanding their insanely cring lines 
is ss vergil or ss3 selena better in ts wz
I mean honestly C in DMC already says it
selena is not ts
ik
It's integrated to them
then why u ask? or you mean phys?
Filler patch yet more dryer than a rank patch...yeah
Only en
just wna know the score diff cause selena did better then balter before
there no point to compare ts, only compare phys.
the last time I played a dmc game was around 2 decades ago
and it was fine back then, but now I feel nothing but immense amount of cring when I hear them 
Where are you getting that
Stigmata did NOT get a worse score in ultima slash compared to Pianissimo
About that .....
bricked patch, draining patch 
What are they comparing
5 star stigmata?
Selena whaler
Did you s+ ur selena again pwowq
Already s+
Ofc u did im not surprised 
Yeah you can whale Selena and use at TS but probably just 3m or maybe 4 
I'm gonna use selena next week on TS wz
Last time I tried TS with selena I got 8 mil iirc
What a goddamn Whale
Also Hanying is carrying the ts
Well certified selena's lover
He is selena lover
i did burn 70k bc and 20k yellow tickets for this patch, i got 3S brother + sig n cub, ss3 selena, ss3 hanying, and ss3 nanami, bout to ss3 pyroath or all in 3s nanami(still thinking
)
Done s+ all selenas
Does the simulated battlefield not end anymore? If so that is awesome
Dude
My brain exploded
Permanent
That's awesome!
Swipe first
Think later
Was this important to the lore
Yes they becoming permanent now

sss nana better thn ss3 pyro
That's what i said but this patch lacks regular packs, just mainly for dmc
Does it matter
As if it will be canon
Thinking about it only gonna make the number seems bigger and bigger
Commit once and done
the think hold me back is there no yellow ticket supply pack, and spending event 
if hes whale then buy straight bc
||may come with a side effect of: regret, questionable life decisions, and less groceries funds||
i can do that im still have x2 top up for bc
Nah the side effect of mine is salt water soup

Ever had chicken-shaped lump of rice? XD
I have (i was broke during that time)
Same. XD
I thought nobody cared about lore in meta slaves 
Hell i've had plain rice with sesame oil and soy sauce
This "nitro" thing is killing me 
cancel it 
I need the upload thing
oh you need to upload thing over 500mb?
Yes
Don't ask for what however (mostly video clips)
too bad so sad then 
I once had boiled macaroni where I had fried half to it (to dry and salt it) so I can trick my stomach into thinking I am eating two different things. XD
Can't compare the const difference element, especially Gen 3 units. Own units have their own placement
Im not getting the 3k bc cause i did NOT do last week's missions
Unless you want compare same element like Lucia pyro vs Vera gei
Or qukra vs wanshi ld 
Now that's interesting 
My Qu is SS but Wanshi is SSS 
Wouldn't that mean wanshi is the main dps and qukra is sub dps?
Wanshi is break WZ but I can't compare cause she still SS. Idk what happened if qu is SSS 
Could someone link me a plasma beam rotation?
Collab characters don't have signature memories.
Invest?
222.3 121 111
went to 60 pulls to get echo's sig oof. I got a 2nd alpha:cw sig, do i reso her or safe for scrap to get a free sig later since i solo nanami anyway
If 2 i cant help, cus i dont take note for it
No problem
Do I do all WZ and PPC now? Or wait until the Weekly is fixed then do it?
They do
These characters don't have signature memory set, they just use elemental memory set as their dps build similar like A ranks character
Does you nanami have reso?
cuz bot maker trolls da dmc fans 
Yeah she has dlt
Click this thread, they're trolling for the DMC characters build for some reason with the bot
Try reso Gen 3 tank first at least 1
Anything else like Hanying or Wanshi?
Dont have wanshi
Nanami doesn't have orb issues. Deconstructed is better
Ok so i havent scrapped 6* weapons before, if you scrap 3 you can exchange for another one you want right
she need dlt if she is soloing
really i run out of orbs on warzone even with dlt doing only 300 ults
doing one alpha rot to fill time
Yes, but I would hold off on doing that for more reso if you can
Yes but not worth it. Unless you have terrible luck with your pull
you need to manage your orbs you dont need to switch if you have dlt in nanami
I did it recently for Selena sig cause I was impatient... Lmao
I know. DLT makes her smother. But you can use R1 deconstructed Nanami if you trust rng luck
i meant here i dont have watanabe but yeah whatever
Yeah wata count too. He got a leap
Okay how about Gen 3 attackers?
okay but basically i can scrap the alpha 2nd sig rather than reso her yeah
Maybe you can saved the 6* weapon for future character
I have most r1
i think you cant solo run in nanami if you dont have dlt
4m is far I can go with R1 decons
ss0?
Yes
Hanying probably needs that
i saw someone did 5.5m or 5m before only dlt
omg
Lilith uses dlt in wz right?
I just realized you can reso it on different type of weapon
Can work if someone has Garnet r1 deconstructed.
Thought it can reso only on alpha for some reason
Lol
That would suck so bad if it was the case
You can 
Yeah i reso hanying then
Both WZ and PPC
For now until Bianca 
Ok ty. Btw who is harmony priority
who to reso with the rosetta sig then or just save it for bianca
you dont need garnet tbh just qte bot
Cottie
I mean overall character wise for recent units
Oh harmony priority...
It depends which team you want to finish to build
https://huaxu.app/eu/players/17617748/characters
It's not possible for me to finish any team, I just came back
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Cw sig but no luna sig (granted you can get cw's sig for free)
Deconstructed gave the enemies 7% debuff. I was huge difference in WZ, specially at wave 15 up
do we have light content after bianca out?
Ask our dalaos
Vera > Selena> Lilith
Ok ty:)
Cottie for all of them right?
I need the 2/3 units here so
Welp. Better get to pulling
reso cw? but she just a qte bot bum
No need to tbh
qte bots giving debuff too
Don't need to reso cw.
She not in any team slots.
Watanabe is DPS Darkflow and Vera build stacks
Lightning team is Solo nanaknight
Can you look at this again, resod hanying, now can use rosetta sig for reso as well on something
It's just a matter of time until you're becoming insane
nanami without dlt?
Just saved that for future character, like new Bianca at next patch. Since she's DPS dark team replaced Lamia
With
Just 5* base s feral and ss0 5* cw
Don't ask where the sig went

(The sig is for the r2 nana)
Well spent

Also why don't you just add a second support instead of Crimson Weave as a Qte bot
Oh like alisa?
You can use more support memories that way
Forgorg i didn't check my saved teams when i was doing wz
Whats on ppc today?
Nevermind-
Specially with one of amplifier have Resonance
What?
I CLUTCHED IB

You Whale
outlier point bosses are bosses no onger in ppc rotation right?
can someone pls explain in detail how true slash work for me?
like when does it deal damage? why is there a green phase and why is there a normal phase that have numbers that get consumed
i still dont know how true slash really function
cause ive been 600K ing all of them with vergil and even if they arent coming back, it gives me confidence as soon as theres a physical boss i think i can use vergil once and then selena on the weekend to compare the points
Have fun with red huaxu in IB
basically you have the counter to the left that tells you the amount of ultima slash stages of damage you have and the amount of points for each stage, certain characters deal ultima slash damage with their skills consuming or generating those ultima slash points to deal more damage
example, solacetune generates them wit her blue pings and consumes with her ult
vergil deals slash damage with the yamato and the blue orb sword and pure physical with the fists, basically the higher the big number on the slash counter the more damage ultima slash deals
is there absolutely no way for it to work if she is not SS3 + dlt?
cause it look like she need to tap ult alot to be able to hold ult but you need alot of blue to maintain the stack
idk i dont even have her signature, i kinda need to save for bianca DMC dried me
and i dont get paid yet so i cant just swipe
Do we get reduced skull drops from next week
idk, we are already in 1x
Oh so they arent 3x
so maybe? i already got selena to ss0 so all my skulls will be saved for bianca
Started in the lucia patch and yeah just cant catchup SSing all those chars xd
is there a way to remove the animation at the start of ppc stages? cause it makes me start at 6 seconds
and those are 6 seconds that get deducted of my score
Absolutely no way
Barely finishing echo now and now have to do solacetune as well while my bum amps like feral and ayla are just in the ditch
how do people get 5 second clears then? if you cant start before second 6
That highly depends on which boss
example, gwynplane this week rotation
We typically ignore outlier boss as they are outdated (plus some have shorter and longer start up time)
More modern bosses have start up time of around 5 sec
i understand that SS0 R1 vera with matrix lightning can one rot him on hell but still
now imagine what an S+ can do
i use them for the achievements, each one is like 100 skulls
im still missing the last achievement on some of them so i would be able to get some emergency skulls if i ever need them in the near future
man atp im just praying for someone to powercreep Hanying and their requirement for true slash isnt as much as her
cause man this is rough
that's a one time thing, and you should clear all of them to get all the achievement and skulls from the getgo
yeah im taking my time cause im missing the last achievementi n like 8 of them
nut i dont feel like doing those right now
ill probably will do that when bianca drops
also is it just me or does Hero warzone ony have true slash, ion and void shield affixes
i havent seen any other affixes in Hero so far
We'll have burn next week with ts
We have plasma currently
havent seen glaciation
C*cked
can you still get 600k in ppc if you use glacio in ts ppc
Only happened during like the first week of Selena patch 
does anyone have guide for plasma rot with sss nanami?
Yes but depends on invest plus weap resos
oh cool, nanami weather 
isnt it still 1 quick ult and 1 full ult on Nanami?
oh wait nvm with reduced time you just do 1 full ult on Nanami now i think
Man
https://b23.tv/VRHSMdq
233 012 powered
no clue i just got her up from ss3 and it seems like it's a whole different rot with lilith ulting even
hello chat, how to ts vergil for 333? anyone have input?
you still a live?
Ask empress
is glacio team in ice ppc is bad ?
He's still alive

One might say cope
Not really. Still off-element but should be enough for brute force
yessir 
pretty sure its same as ss3 hanying but you do glacio rot for alisa
dont ult on first rot tho
she got guide eh? ill check it out ig
Nah, she has ts runs
i mean, i just dont know what to do on vergil 

then you shouldve just asked that 
i said that specifically just bcs u know, he might have some different rot due to that -3s 
btw what is the "D" next to Dante's core passive bar?
and is there any build up indication for royal guard? cant seen to build up royal guand to do big royal release
alisa rot only thing that changes iirc 
Still the same
I still dont know how to do that wanshi rot til this day
hold dodge if its glacio hold red if ice
That i know, i just dont know how to get ult after just hold ba
I usually have to use all bullets to get enough energy
That -3s even makes him perform 2 rot better in amplifier buff and fit all members' rotations
just spam red thats what i did
https://youtu.be/ywLvO_Uwbzo?si=jHTixwrgvLbv4flF
I found this while searching for rotation
[PGR] Punishing : Gray Raven
hero warzone trueslash team 798w
im coocked
Thats not the wanshi rot in the vid lmao
It was a different video
i need input, i have no clue what button did he press 
For vergil ?
yes please
Hmm
my current rot is:
open echo, ping and switch to vergil, basic atttack, yamato + nasic instant, ult, basic basic basic, hold basic, ult 2 when the power meter hits 300, qte + cub, yamato, basic, switch to hangying

Guys- what game mode has a lot of blqck cards for me to farm? I need to get yamato
ok ill try it out, thanks
This?
Vergirl not needs stacks?
This my short gameplay
stacks increase his damage but he will deal ultima slash damage no matter what
unless you use the fist
First Rotation:
Swap in > dodge > red orb > basic attack > signature move 1 > hold basic attack > repeat until you have enough energy > signature move 2 > blue orb > basic attack and let the animation play out > swap out
Second Rotation:
Dodge > signature move 1 > basic attack with red orb until you have enough energy > signature move 2
Blue orb > Basic attack > signature move 1 > dodge with direction > hold basic attack until you have enough energy > signature move 2 >
Blue orb > basic attack and let the animation play out > swap out
Hello beautiful meta people
At least that's what I saw from the video
nvm figured that out
It seems like you can regenerate energy on Vergil either with Red orb basic attack or Blue hold dodge > hold basic attack
I have a question that is more meta than gaming tips
so uh, did the recharge double topup rewards reset?
Cuz if they did, i didn't get my double 119 RC :(
just hold ba and ult thats what i did
yeah have to hold ba all the way
thank u steve, this is what i need 
No problem
So first rot is no dmg vergirl i seen
you dont double rc lol, you only double bc
I'm also currently learning to play him too, so that's also useful for me
huh
Sparda's virgin
The first time I whaled here i did get double RC
u dont double on recharge, u double on spending
Ohhhhh
its like this
For ultima slash, is the dmg between SS and SSS Vergil significant? Wondering how much to invest, since people are saying SS is fine and I already have SS3 Selena for physical dmg.
Is it only for turning rc to bc or it applies to some things that you buy with bc
i never actually hold ba all the way so i dont have enough energy lol
Honestly, later in the video it seems like his Vergil starts to have a decent amount of leftovers signal orbs
He also used hold basic red orb for Vergil cut attack to gain energy like the initial rotation
He deals damage, a lot, but his second rotation is like the big burst, tho only matters on wz cause ppc bosses tend to die after you switch to solacetune
i think you need to wait till all bullets done
only the rc to bc on that page specifically, which u dont touch unless u ran out of packs to buy
yeah have to wait for reload
wow sucks
I found out if you do 3 normal basic attacks and then you hold you will have the fill 300 points for the ult 2 on your first rot, but it takes like a whole 2 extra seconds
thanks guys
now another meta question cuz nothing more meta than whaling
which pack is the best one to buy
ye if u touch that page, u have to be super giga whale

Like, RC packs or the ones in the special offers?
special offers cuz I already bought RC
check that bot theres a spreadsheet called PGR Pack
Only ones worth buying are the monthly pass C and the BP
Ok thank you both
The only special offer that gives a net possitive ammount of BC per RC spent its like the one that gives like 3000 orange cards instantly, but if you want bc, just get whatever pack gives BC for very few RC, usually those are like 2 purchases per version
also @quiet lily i think empress has a vergil guide and it looks similar to the ref vid you and steve were using
Tho, this patch has a whale pack for each sparda brother that gives you like 5K BC and 30 shards
if I have to pick 1 character to pull 1 copy between the 2 who is worth it? vergil or dante?
Vergil
alright im checking it out, thanks
Cause dante is the third best option for every content in wich he is playable
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NliWUdFiDZ8
has input guide too
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#pgr #pgr_cn #퍼니그레 #wutheringwaves #명조 #퍼니싱그레이레이븐 #퍼니싱 #hanying #empress #solacetune #ultima #ignition #단테 #dante #버질 #virgil
wz default
dante : 4Shakespeare 2Herschell 2Heraclitus
reso : 6atk 6ult
wp reso : Glorious Afterglow / Matrix Lightning / Incan...
u 100% sure? and why? (still team building and im kinda new but not 100%)
Ok I genuinely have no idea how to use this sheet lol
While vergil is the second best on physical and the best on ultima
It looks really scuffed on mobile
oh damn. that sounds sad
I'm pretty sure dante is the best burn dps rn
whats the rot for sss selena glacio i forgot
ye need to understand this part specifically
second best dps is not a high bar to pass lol
Idk im sure nana hits harder
Still better than bianca
Look i just have vergil at SSS and did not pull.copies of dante, just got his sword and cub so he at least does something
I need one more person to tell me that vergil is the better option to go for pls ahaha (btw W peakmellya pfp)
Yeah I do but why does it look like this
But im not gonna play him seriously
Do I choose The latest update (Lamento Di Phantasma)
yeah there are sections below the sheet
ok ty idk why mobile is scuffed
But, if you pull a single copy of dante you will get him at a better state overall, cause of the free copy you get him inmediately at SS3, and if you pull his weapon and cub he will be very much decent in burn content
But, if you dont pull the weapon and the cub, the damage will be underwhelming
but if I do the same thing w vergil then I get more value anyways right?
should i priotize upgrading watanabe epitaph or dante first?
Technically, vergil requires a little bit more investment cause you dont get a free copy, but you do get him at SS0 from a single pull
And who knows maybe you are lucky and get him first 10 pull, i got his 5th copy (3rd copy i pulled) in the first 10 pull, also his weapon and cub, so in general, i saved a lot of bc on him
vergil is better for 2 reason
1 burn nanami can solo
2 fire vera is main dps and neither can dante or lucia competes with her
1 is right
2 is wrong, vera has a better burst on ppc but lucia is just straight up better in WZ
Vera has a faster burst window but lucia will still be better on wave content
no lmao, eventho vera overkills lucia dmg is so low she's doing 1 ult rn lol
even on wave content vera is better
Do you have at least her sig at R1?
Nah, ask malders, they will said that vera is the MAIN dps even in wz
2.32.32 312 invest team lol
Said to a ss0/ss3 lucia havers
Lucia is only 3s that good
i like lucia more and her invest is much higher but vera is just outright better
My SS0 R1 lucia does well in wz
Yet no one really do her rot, i only find the 333 one
Also i dont have vera's sig so.i guess that does affects her overall damage
even on 333 invest she's only doing 2 ult and have less field time than vera lul
Its only SS0 vera with an R3 5 star weapon
What's a good team with vergil?
alisa hanying
both at ss3 who is better dps vera or lucia? was looking to pull lucia again from the 100% selector but now I read your replies saying vera is better
Vera
Yeah not need that much ult with her anymore
ty
vera higher dps but dont get her ss3, its kinda underwhelming. get nanami or selena ss3 first
even then ish ss3 is prob higher prio anyway lol
Hanying higher as well
Vera
But u need lucia as sub dps in the tean
free 2 pull
For wz
Ish still kinda low, since not too many has good buff/shred on ss3
Yamato's Edge Set
Main DPS
High Difficulty, Pain Cage, Warzone, Clash Reflection, Norman
Recommended for all ranks
General DPS set
Centers on the use of Vergil's katana, Yamato, for precise strikes.
4x Darwin
2x Cottie
Top Slot : 6x Any ATK+15 Variant
Bottom Slot: 6x Any ATK+15 Variant
Cottie
def higher than vera, maybe equal to hanying
ish ss3 = ppc fraud
ish ss0 no rights on ib
what's the difference between normal and fate dmc characters?
Just skip it 
One is for those on budget, the other is for masochists (fate)
Fate higher pity better off chance
Normal low off chance, but garanteed pity
do have ss3 ish
is there a list on ss3 prio? wanted ss3 lucia but is there a higher prio character for ss3?
You either buy a character or gamble for a character
- Nanami: Startrail
- Selena: Pianissimo
- Lucia: Pyroath
- Ishmael: Parhelion
- Hanying: Solacetune
- Vera: Geiravor
yes and kind of, lucia ss3 is mainly for ion nowadays
i just 3s nanami, should i 3s tsubrick 
but in term of character, they're the same?
buddy, ppl already s+ tsubrick 
No
Truly
I had 15 60 pity in a raw now
The off chance no exist
free shards every patch for whel shop
i have to use it for echo 
Is this good, I'm a bit new to the game
No
There is a male
wtf ur echo not 3s?
i just did 
oh 
U can, tho kinda hard, i got 2 hyperlee in first ten pulls and 2 nanami in 50 pulls on my birthday, tho i need to reach 2 full pity to sss her
Explore the 53 characters of K1NGST4RK from the North America server of Punishing: Gray Raven.
No
U need a amp and a tank and a attacker
Generaly on a team
Instead 3 attacker
Which should I use
Upgrading ur cubs, hurt to see them on lvl 1
Hey meta people
I have these guys
No
Make them around team
At least pyro and vergirl
Cw fall off quick after u get nanami+sig and a resonamce
I have yet another whaling related question (is very meta)
After buying 328 RC (approximately 30 bucks I think) you get a weapon selector
does said weapon selector have the current collab weapons?
No
nope
Collab never
Free weap tix that keeps on being updated, why bother collab?
Because I want to
you alr know why 
I already have almost every meta related character in the game and I've only been playing for 3 or 4 months
at least one 3s? 
This game is awesome and I won't stop playing it any time soon, and since both collab characters will probably never ever rerun again, i want to have them
My last off pity is a wanhi on him banner
I get bored waiting on him 3s🧱

Look at me, no dmc aside free dante
The heck
Good for you, I'm just lacking Dante weapon and Cub
Waiting for weekly mission fix so that I can get the sword
at least u got his weapon 
put 6pc cerberus on him
good idea, ill put it after im done on his ice zone
free retain this week, might as well do a bit of funsies
i'll be using free dante to showcase the cerberus memory set
i need to upload in #combo-challenge as well 
how Rotation Spammer plays
🛐
Guys I’ve found the Strat for both vergil and dante in getting the respective s rank in hell mode
You skip dmc, right? I still need a friend till the end
Easiest cheeses ever too (unless you suck at jc.)
which skill on 4th? accidently drop 4 copies of it at 10 pulled 
bij fk u
cubs are always the bottom 3 skills
Hate u, u also got selena from random

Dante cheese:
hat trick until 1000
Use SDT and red ping until ult
Repeat
Dude can’t fight back practically
anyway which set should i ht for vera?
shakes cottie
Ss r1?
If yes shakes cottie
r2 
dv guin
Why not r3
dv guin if u have sss pyro
no need ht
dude wheled his house away today 
mine pyro still 2s 
the good vera set
ye just dps vera then
fk whel
s+ shakes vera still better than those set 
nah thats propaganda
ht shake and cottie set?
truth *
cn propaganda corrupted u, they never tested dps vera 
Vergil cheese:
blue ping - m1
SDT
Jump and jc until sdt almost ends, jce once almost over
Repeat
yup
alr
nah dv guin still huge
dv guin vera alphonse shakes wata >

of course i skip
Idk s+ is differ kinds
So take what u wish
wait i just realized i can S+ wanshi with vouchers and overflow mats holy
Secret shop really the job huh
So for the fire team, who is the main dps, who is the sub dps and who is the support? Is it Pyro Main, Gera Sub, and Epitaph support or is Gera the support and epitaph the sub? Or do most people switch to all 3 characters instead of having one qte slave
🐳
Vera main dps pyro sub dps and epitaph does 1 rot to drop shred
had 2 shards, got 10 from overflow shop + 24 from vouchers and was SSS8 already 
vera is the main dps if much higher invest pyroath did not get powercrept

look at that non-believer 
I think a lot of people see Pyroath as more of a plasma dps rather than fire dps but I’m not sure
those people should get their eyes checked
I have both on ss3, and vera deffo does more dmg than pyro 
assuming same invest pyroath would still be main and vera sub
lying for fun should stay in #📨・general-help
thats true with older units sure
You are forgetting that Pyroath is a year old in terms of original release. She just feels like she came out sooner for us because of the catch up
i'm not forgetting anything she's still a gen 3 unit
9 months old*
More importantly, who gets the DV?
Pyro yata nana ish lilith selena jeta, and vera arrives
Assuming each patch is 5 weeks, that's 35 weeks between pyro and vera release
Mb gang
Wata, dv and his sig

no guin buff is crazy yall nerfing yourselves
bruh go ask xeno, he tested s+ 
i have S+ too 
Do you have highest fire score tho 
brah was missing from here for weeks and now late to the party 
then have u tested vera dps?
Then again you still need pyro for ion
and her "dps" build
1790w
So I run Gera and Pyro with their main DPS builds and then use the DV + Einstina/Shakespeare for Epitaph

Rip
i mean, i wasnt believing it too that vera is main dps until rydle tested it out on 3s and vera is extremely better, ASSUMING the fact that u did the dodge tech correctly
4dv 4alph
Ok and?
U tried it?
I guess u not felt to much difference, cuz s+
Uncle is washed huh
uncle has always been washed
Who gets the shakespeare or einstina then?
Until his leap drops, yeah
He's just here to drop shred field for now
Uncle getting replaced?
uncle bout to get leap, uncle mayb comeback after the leap or continue washed 
Geira shakes, u can put eins on lucia

Daren forever meta
Pyro can hold eins or 4cot and Vera runs 4shakes 4cot
Nope
nah prob he didnt do double dodge tech and hold basic all the way
Ah ok saw ppl sayimg he’s washed thought he getting kerbed 🤣
So no hervor for Vera then
eins
Nah he's actually good with leap
Fire became top scorer in cn with 19m due to his leap
Hervor is for solo
||well he also got rengoku's treat, that's why his chest like that
||
i know how to play her 
so uncle comeback after getting leap 
then u sholdve know the fact that vera dps is better 
Depends 
what's your fire wz score btw
The one rot he does actually contributes some damage 
Mk

uncle getting unwashed
I forgot that sss wata got 6 stacks ult
we get uncle leap next patch?
Yep

Smh I wish I had gotten these answers before I spent all this currency on perfect res for hervor SMH
this was my highest before pc died a few weeks ago 
which one better to get dante or vergil?
Too late to ask
I only need 2 PC Einstina as a weapon harm right
I can keep 2 pc cottie on pyro then yay
for meta is vergil
Uncle leap qol for fire:
30%+ damage to orbs
10%+ edb to blaze orbs
ss0: first shot after entering ult1 will give you 2 blaze orbs(you no longer have to do dodge cancels with him)
sss: gives 2 ult stacks after parrying
Qte summons shred field, shred field size is increased
im still waiting for dmc collab when is it 😞
holy ss0 qol 
Omg a leap that doesn’t just make him an affix character
Just 3 him bro
He is, df affix
oh ye i forgot we can free 3s him now 
Oh well
Df is DEAD
If you want to use unc as a main dps he can now do 2 rot with 6 stack ult assuming weapon got dlt 
Cw on df team btw (were cooked)
Leap includes darkflow stuff too, and it's cracked
Still no df content right?
when he 3s his dps sightly better than ss0 vera and ss0 pyro or not?
He has 40% base darkflow shred and caps out at 60%
Speaking of that, affix focused leaps are worth it even if you aren’t using that character for the affix team (like CW, Echo or Scire)
does it matter if I pull Dante before getting free copy in the story?
His 3s dmg prob same level as pyro maybe? Idk never really tested that out and I can't really since my fire invest is so fcked
doesnt matter
32.32 112 111 fire invest lmfao
where's my DF content

3s pyro 
i want daren revived!
Dead on arrival
Cw has no right to be rightfully revived
Cw is in the team 💔
Remove her ong
?
cw is dead. i will use daren for more shred 
Daren need to be benched
vera dps? 
vera enabler
Oh wait you also get sig energy on swap in too with leap, and for whels his s+ gives 10% edb to ult 2 
then who consume stack? uncle can?
uncle can
Why does everyone hate CW so much. I thought gacha players were supposed to be happy when gacha games buffed older characters
i see
My invest also kinda scuffed with 32.32.3 212
what they buff?
i never hated her wdym its everyone 
you're in meta channel bro, if she was still meta, she would be loved
Her fans are too much just like dmc fans

also ye more like its her fans that ppl hated
nahh, I would still hate her ||fans|| 
That's why she's hated
Cw is like
Fine as a unit(her story kinda... boring tho imo)
But there's people that glaze her to no end and it's super annoying
Pick which one?
wait and see when she gets new frame, gph will cringe about it but will still use her nonetheless 😂
how many resonance?
That’s fair. It just feels a lot like the Daren hate. I’m happy that they keep finding ways to stay in the meta, especially in pgr where characters are being power crept every patch
1
Lamia and roland had more lore than her
daren hate is just a meme
for vergil team? use domain decontruction
Yes and ok
same as what happen with dmc 
we cringe at their fans, but we pull it nonetheless
did we get our weeklies back yet ?
nope
even magma ask "what happen to skip dmc" 
i might truly skip tho 
Maybe if we pray hard enough we will get Glow leap for Lamia. Probably not but we can still pray.🙏
wtf
no, we skip those, no buts or ifs there 

Next week surely 
This is because daren herself limiting dark and ishmael to properly use lilith
nah that can't be
there nothing happened to skip dmc beside getting fk by ts ppc boss 
ye they push it to next week
so we just got robbed
hopefully they give it to all
yup, kuro robbed us hard this patch
time to riot and demand 10k
as compensation 
that way i get more BC 

3k bc gone...
Idk i just said skipping cuz
Bc plannig felt fck
And now how seens the top ups i just pulled a vergirl base kit and han ss3
u dont want 9k yellow tix?
U need to get vergil's sig first
anyway how tf we still have 15s cd in meta help?? 
Should I go for dupes on the brothers, get wata's 6* weapon OR Hanying Solestune?
It is quite impressive how they managed to accurately put their kits from DMC5 into pgr though
my seller isnt replying lmaooo
should've been 60

Beg more pitifully 
and watch globlul skip 5th anniv without any rewards and jump straight to 6th
truly the globlul treatment we deserve 
If you don't have solacetune, get her first
I love you, ty ssm
I go vergil first
well u only exist since 4 years so
You will take your 3x BC for a year and you WILL GET NOTHING ELSE
I need grassland background tho
, it's a nice one to miss it
Vergil SS3 good enough?
no
nah, if you go for brother, it need to be 3s at least 
vergil S5 is enough for u
Idk u inta ss6
So only 3s
What is meta team right now?
For what…?
those
there is no "one" meta team. doesnt exist
you need em all
Thnx i guess?
gonna catch them all 
What is meta team for darkflow?
Cw solo
geira solo
Which shoudl I get
vera uncle and..... DAREN! 
there no 1 team brute force all content in this game, if you follow meta you gotta get em all. if you just enjoy the game not follow meta get any chars you like
me
Like which one is good
Holy i forgot about discord beta
Which one
forgot to try wata leap
How long not heard cw and solo in the same santance
this
wtv actually they outdated anyway
Deadweight looking a bit different this time around
2 brother not even 3s get out
Oh wow
How tf 3 males in one team
males in my pgr?!
Hot take but I really hate Refulgence. We barely have full teams for each of the affixes and they are already adding new ones. Smh
Ikr 
pls guys keep slurs to a minimum
This is my current team lol
why are they so far lul
And it's literally just ion 2.0
So lazy
idk why they add it in
I just started
where is your tank? 
Is she good?
Replace selene with daren or 21 tank
no
can u screen shot? 
22000 bc I need to finish sss
Aww
Yes
She's decent at the very least
jk
No need for tank lol skill replaces all perfect dodge
Who should I get then
Yes but she got pushed out of main dps into subdps by Ishmael
That’s not what a tank does
Ik
from where ?
Who’s that
The other Nihil character
You do realize that without a tank you won't do damage
Tanks in this game shred enemy armor, allowing everyone to do damage
This
Get nanami startrail from that
^
Oooo who’s that

I WANT HER I JUST SEEN HER DESIGN
She's got a charge blade from monster hunter
Will she be good for a long time for my team?
Current characters i have
She’s good in like 5 teams 
Personally Nihil might be the best new player friendly element as literally every character for every element works with it. Ofc you’ll want to move to making teams for each element but like as a new player having a flexible first team is good
They should rework nihil instead, it's literally do nothing despite being affix aside purple shield
Ooo so good right
I’m choosing ishmael

Well technically nihil is an element
It just naturally comes with disruption affix 
yes it like version 1.0 miasma zzz 
Lost hope
Rather, they should make it an actual damage type with PPC and Warzone dedicated to Nihil (not disruption) and remove disruption/add a better Nihil affix

