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yeah nana burns weed
literal zaza
Me: Iām skipping for Selena coating
Also me: if I spend X amount of moneyā¦
big pothead nanami, smokin zaza
Og startrail voicelines back, life is worth living
i was away for like 47 days and i forgot about the whole selena thing..
whoops...
LOL
I kind of like the new voices
i wanna gamba donatello so bad
I was gonna buy the duel in the rain and pull Vergil + weapon + cub with it.
fate calling my name like a siren
i technically š§± myself for being away cause of school
That way Iāll have both Dante and Vergil but only Vergil will be usable
i was like "maybe i'll come back"
forgots about it for a month
LOL. I have enough pulls for Bianca and 3 useless cubs for her cub + weapon same thing so Iām thinking š¤
I ONLY HAVE LIKE 1.5K BC RN
IM BROKE
say that again...
I have 140 bc.
fate calling my name like a siren
omg what are the ultima/ignition builds called in the bot
holy
is there guide on ts vergil rots
double early 
Is this the best resonance skill for Vergil? It looks to be the best option.
(Sorry I just returned to PGR, and I forgot a lot.)
I still don't get wtf kuro meant in their notice
hey guysi have got all newer champs as ss3 and i can pick one to boost up to SSS who would you recomend? nanami star rail, lucia pyroath,ishamel parhelion, luna oblivion, hanying solacetune, watanabe epitaph?
is it ok if I use 9s, i have no other alternative


Power man disappointed in you
PFFT
bro became the meme of having vergil but not proper supports
please seek help in #šØć»general-help going forward, this is not the channel for you
if only i had black rock to complete the team
Ye but she's not even remembered
damn
only forgotten by the ones who didn't watch the anime

Is a third passive slot needed for Vergils cub? The passives look strong
I haven't sail the sea that far
Should 2.32.33 102 101 score about 6 mil in legend Ion?
just watched her gameplay she looks super cool
Whats the best set for Ishmael if I want to do more damage?
4 sotototh 4 cottie, next time use the bot in bot help
4 sig 4 cottie
What am I looking at
Thanks
Hi, who should I get from the anniversary selector ?
Do they need their weapons? Is it skippable?
And if they do need it, whoās do I get first?
Ppc is calling but your phone is on silent
What does that mean ?
what I rly like abt dante is that his ult is not a full cutscene, it activates TLC but keeps the pov
DLT ML Incan for r3?
Currently hypertuning Dante and Vergil, what should I aim for each of them? And is using the recommended goals in game for them a good idea?
Do u mean resonance? Cuz hypertune is same stats regardless
which build do I use for Dante/Vergil from bot?

the wut now
Oh yes. What's the difference between hypertuning and lower resonance and upper resonance?
On the same memory? none
Hyper tuning memory slots 123 gives crit and HP, 456 gives atk and def. So we hypertune 456 first
Technically hypertune 123 will barely affect ur score in anything so itās just a nice-to-have when u have extra coins
I have resources to hypertune all, should I do that?
Yea if all ur main DPS are hypertuned alr
This is how it's looking. I just want to make sure I'm using the correct set on Dante. (I've been grinding for months now, don't really get how gearing in this game works aside from barebone observations)
solacetuneless activity
It says "select a resonance skill" when I click on upper resonance. What should I choose? My bad, I know I'm a bit slow. Thank you for being patient with me
Not the 345 bp alisa ššš
no hanying or Ishmael and we got a problem
shes so goated for that
Upper resonance any +15ATK, bottom is sin devil trigger (ult)
wait i have ishmael, how silly of me, general help was NO HELP AT ALL
Hi, new player here. Would you alr recommend to open the free s rank omni frame choice or pull first
How important is crit in this game? I'm thinking going 15 Atk + 15 crit
Crit is only relevant for the physical team. Completely irrelevant for elements
Ish doesnāt work for phys
So it doesn't matter what I chose
Yeah
mang then what should I do
Okay thank you so much for helping me out! What resonances should I choose for Vergil?
Exact same. If ur using Vergil in phys u can go for the crit/atk
?
cope do Ish and pretend she works
Although it doesnāt rly matter since Alisa buffs the team and gives u 100% crit chance anyways
(Can true slash crit?)
I appreciate this bro š Thanks!
Itās derivative of phys so Iām guessing it crits but idk
So now I can just hypertune w/ no problem, right?
thats the play
People like this really exist??
I used A2 with selenaš
I changed to qte bot rigor tho
Using wata with palefire
Till i get hanying
damn why u say this
Pyroath first tho
hanying true slash with vergil wants core passive or class skill resonance?

Who would be the 3rd in a Lucia: CW and Feral 21 team?
Vera Garnet
Preciate it, you're a life saver
jk Nanami solos
Get startrail from whatever selector u have available, Feral and CW are outdated and donāt get any field time in the lightning team anymore
Omg a non touristš„¹
im too much of a sucker to be one
I do have a selector. I have Vera Geraivor for Dante since I heard she'd be good in his team. I was saving the selector to choose a 3rd
i will get S+ on hell eventually 
how do i proc dante's ignition and vergil's ultima slash i ont get it, im trying to do what the tutorial says but it wont go
Nanami is the tank for 5 teams so sheās #1 prio for everything
As long as I'm getting weeklies done, I'm chilling, but yes I've heard that Lucia CW is extremely powercrept
Where my weeklies at??
š
whats the problem with my vergil and my ultima slash?
its just a raw 11m hp
https://youtu.be/AWUXOzhyHlg
For a beginner what's a good target in the target pool? Should I pull for the target weapon as well or only the member target
Tbh tho ur not brickin ur account so its fine...
what are the 5 teams? isn't it just lightning, plasma, ignition, glow?
people werent kidding that this channel is toxic
Cope tank for fire with her ignition rot tooš
I have a 6* weapon choice pack, what should I go for? Nanami's weapon?
The funniest thing abt that is it doesnāt even score that much lower than Wata (pre-leap at least)
Only some people, most just advise for brick prevention
k whale
is it still worth to sss her if we can sss wata with vouchers and that we might get plasma tank anytime soon?
Yes cuz sheās still lightning solo carry and glow tank
Want that ss3 but gotta catch up on all meta units first
Sheās not going anywhere anytime soon
how's sss nana for solo ignition?
Great
Thank you for helping me navigate this goat
Yeah I grabbed it this morning
Gonna do Pyroath and Hanying next
Thats why vergil is higher prio than dante if ur getting one of them ||best to skip tho||
I grabbed Dante first
anni banner is just 1 char if thats what you're referring to using to get ss3
Those are the two units I DONT have AT ALL
Itās not Iām literally 50/60 pulls on pyro
Are the weekly rewards gone? or is it just another bug?
Farming story unfortunately, 10 pull away from pyroath
bug
Twinnnnnn
no i mean you can't change it after locking 1 in
U can. I alr pulled Nanami and now 50/60 for pyro
Story farm is inevitable, same with cursed waves and the other oneš
its never been like that huh
Are these 2 builds good for them?
This is a special case. Itās unlimited
why the hell do i have 2 weapon reso usbs and 13 red usbs
Its should always be like this for anniversaries
guess im pulling my debit card back out
he gon whale again
wish i had more cash in my debit card
OHMYGODDDD
I needed both sigsssss I just saved myself 10,000bc cuz I got it in 20 pulls lmao
crazy
Lock your doors
0 cause luna
u should be able to get all of them
Quick question, how much does recycling a 6* weapon give you in terms of shards? Is it worth doing? The 6* weapon pack I had seems outdated
aw man after this patch is bianca huh.
Elmao
do not do that
Everyone is lucky but me
150
i'd suggest not to recycle them cause you can use them for weapon reso instead
you should use spare 6* weps as reosnance, not recycle mats. its not worth
Do do that
I'm about the one one who believes in sig scrapping it seems
did you pick the bow.
and you're also a bozo timi
iirc you need like 450 to even have 1 sig
Does Nanami go 4 Herschel 4 Eins?
Somehow the person who gets a hardon over not playing meta ALSO thinks you should use them for resos BRUH
carried
Wait no thatās not right. 4 eins is useless
4 heisen
I'm goated wdym
Ahhh okok
there's no eins i think unless ur running 5*
Resos from Norman are enough š
ok i really need to save up some bc
Just saved me so much money
Oh this is meta help
I'll get sued if I shill sig scrapping here
im looking at trophy room and laughing at all luna offrates
peak cinema
Nah it's still in the selector box
yea i meant to use usbs for sig on virgin and somehow managed to twotap sigs on all memories
i dare you to scrap one
do i pull for 2 copies of wata from anni banner then S+ with next patches selector or just wait and do Qu instead 
I'm saving weapons to scrap
ill scrap you timi
Next offrate i get will get me a sig 
Iām losing my mind. Whats wrong here? SS3 Lucia
Looks fine to me?
Nothing, it's just SS3 Lucia and you got them big buttons
Oh idk why you're holding out on nana qte tho
Rip dv buff
Nooo, why isnt the 3 ping orb appearing???
sobā¦
Damn... Im so bad at playing Vergil that I resort to using TS moveset rotation ahahahahaha
yomm
Wdym resort 
Were you not doing that before
@true pivot just pinging u for link to YT channel, can't find u in member list lmao
that's the wrong yomm...
its hell
š
nvm right one
that rotation its hell i watched 5 videos iām suffering iām gonna explode
I'm using her as Fire Tank for a reason
does he have a tutorial vid or it's just the runs
i watched azriel i watched yom i watched everyone i watched all i watched even EMPRESS
He has seen them all
Is ss3 not the standard 33355 or its variations
Oh right no -3s on nanami
Cooked
ion prob easiest to play on phn
glacio or fire this team comps are more like hell play
SS3 ION??? ur joking
damn yomm has full r3
It took me like 1 day to learn 9mil same as others 
its hell iām going to cry
howwww??? the stupid ion bar expires
Should I do SS3 Dante sig + cub or SS Vergil sig + cub?
unfortunately I have exam to study for so imma learn after friday
Fire galcio like
don't even want to rembeer
It's definitely tight sometimes
So what are recomended Harmonies for Dante and Vergil ? Bothelp has like 10 different builds for each
You can get hitlagged out of it by bears or smth
But otherwise should be 100% consistent
cottie for both
What about memories ? Sorry if i am boring you, just wanna build them properly
4 patton and 2 cottie for vergil, and 4 shakespeare 2 cottie for dante
dw about being boring or annoying, im in the meta-help channel for a reason 
wrong one
heres the right one
https://youtube.com/@yommythemommy
I'm YommyTheMommy! āØš
Here to make you laugh, smile, and vibe with animations!
Always reading your ideas, and opinions. ā
Feel free to re-upload, share, and take my videos to other places, but be mindful and credit with @YommyTheMommy.š«¶
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Why aren't you using DV sooner during the pre eclipse slashes
i donāt know iām gonna cry everything is slow
@cobalt prawn
i need a gun to shoot me. who designed this lucia? WHO?!!
does anyone remember if we have had solo phys wz recently? like without trueslash wz
And why are you not entering ion mode when your energy is above the ult line
It saves time that way
wdym by that??
For instance you should've landed after red orbs
Is fulgor worth the investment
Gain enough energy so that when you ult1 you can immediately do slash ult
is there a rotation guide for ss3 ishmael
How do you taunt on Dante? For me the taunt on Vergil works fine but when i do it on Dante he just summons energy swords for 1-2 hits. Do i need a higher style rank to do the taunt? (I'm trying to unlock chapter 15 of the event story)
Check pins
i donāt get .. ): are you saying the part i enter plasma?
i do red red ba hold ult blue
Hola
Already did, pressing the core passive gauge just summons energy swords, he doesn't actually do a taunt
Oh. Understandable
Yes
You should not have done it here
You can't ult at this point
sighs⦠sorry, too much stress
just read above the ping i did
it sometimes works and sometimes it doesnāt 
I did
depends
Is that Lilith with DLT
does anyone have that chart where it show which pack is the best bang for your buck for new spenders?
someone been asking
And then is the first Pyro swap in-> basic -> blue 2x hold ult -> hold blue -> blue 2x -> hold ult?
they want to spend on this DMC collab but dont know which one have value
Do people not check pack efficiency themselves
what blue before hold ult
it isnt very open source
hard to just type it in and find it on google or through normal means
idk I thought u pinged
it wasnt written
I mean like doing the calc urself
and i didnt ping
It's a useful skill to have
yea im just looking at ur 894w run, nothing's written so im just tryna follow what's happening xD
i got a better run though
https://youtu.be/M6ixH-LWPNw?feature=shared
2.32.34 333 111 224
Song used:
ta1lsd0ll - ta1lsd004
https://youtu.be/s0u10cFVrjc?feature=shared
ta1lsd0ll - ta1lsd003
https://youtu.be/CljzyH_c3Uo?feature=shared
ok what is dante(ignition) and virgin(ultima) rotations?
yea u pinged blue before going into plasma form, that's what I meant
i pinged red, you cannot ping blue before form
Ohhh ok
you can see the red orb having a lot of white flashing on it
Spammer smh
Yeah, the truth can hurt sometimes...
this is a malding run, so any stuff i do in there may not fit what you have currently
this is the base i built up on
https://youtu.be/ktaf45KJ3o8?feature=shared
A different starting rotation as the current waves does not help at all with the breakpoints. Which is better? It depends.
Song used:
ć”ćć¦ć¹ - ęćć©ć¤
https://youtu.be/hunqo6DgjD8?feature=shared
Duality - Montee
https://youtu.be/f14CO4uRnVA?feature=shared
0:00 - Run
4:23 - Builds
Just basic 3355 right? Iāll learn that first
Thx
once you get the hang of this rotation, do not try and mald it, instead figure out what can be improved on
why are you flexing in mh, go to #šć»trophy-room bruh
what if i flex scores? 
So I'm curious, because I've never really focused on maxing out a specific Unit before.
Is the only thing left for me to spend BC on additional copies of Vergil?
I don't need additional Yamato or Mirage Blade copies, right?

its gumball's score, so hes the whel
Are there even any decent non dmc packs this patch like 7 day boon or sth?
Gib bigger version
not maxing characters is a terrible idea
it only have that
I know, but I've only been playing PGR grinding for the DMC event.
So I didn't really want to main any characters since I was saving my resources for this day.
I still upgraded them, just didn't really focus on it unless I needed to.
you upgraded insanely old characters with 0 use
does anyone know their rotations?
I'm not really worried about them, I was just kinda winging it to get by
well vergil is just the same thing as crimson abyys but much stronger + has affix
So I got Vergil and his sig
I have 17k and claimed the extra Vergil. What should I do? Roll for Dante?
what u need is to swap that 2pc set, should be cottie, not condelina
its still a long way till the standard banner's selector reset right?
which also has the same use as entropy
anyone know when it will reset again or have it reset another time?
so uh you have a really weird account as far as its visible
no one knows
but loooooooong
me personally Im going for dante and his sig as well
we don't know if it will reset again, but if it will, most likely chance rn is december
Interesting, the recommended equipment was condelina, but I'll change it, honestly I was worried it was misleading.
Ty for letting me know.
and the cubs if I have leftover bc but Ima try to make sure to get sigs and the units
can you share your account id, i wanna have a look at your other characters @crimson crown
in-game rec's are wrong, most of the time
and also, never trust the sets in-game, use the bot in this server
21762315
Again though, I was really just kinda winging it, so my characters are very underdeveloped.
how many bc do you have atm
13k
really good, let me check your account
You have options in this case
alisa echo is a physical amplifier that you can obtain for free the same way as you did for kaleido, you need echo for vergils team @crimson crown

Noted ty
and you are missing out a ton of important characters but you seem to not care much so focusing on dantes team now,
Because the anniversary banner is also available, you can also just get the other S rank character in the game that you're missing previously
In terms of value, the DMC collaboration units are one of the lower priority due to how niche they're in the meta compared to their cost
If you're looking for value, DMC collaboration character is very skipable
did you use the anniversary banner? @crimson crown
But if you want to get Dante then why are you still waiting
people play the collab for the collab chars
not for the meta
so what can i say
click on the link
should i pull vergil or luna
https://huaxu.app/eu/players/21727597/characters
Explore the 36 characters of StarTrail from the Europe server of Punishing: Gray Raven.
skip vergil
im bricking
good website
do i pull luna from anniversary
You can also just get Solacetune if you want a new character, you have the option for her
She's the best teammate for your Pianissimo
No, I haven't really summoned much at all, in the beginning I got Crimson Abyss with BC, then recently I tried summoning Solacetune, since I heard she was one of the best for Vergil's team.
Other than that, I haven't touched R&D outside of Blue cards
Oblivion is your second choice after Solacetune
okay take this
but there will be a selector on bianca patch i can pick her from there cant i
No?
losing my mind guys
was it all a dream i remember seeing it
The Crepuscule version S rank selector only has up to Shukra debut as character selection
okay, you should use the anniversary banner for vera: geiravor, she is an amplifier that you will use with dante
There's no Solacetune or even Oblivion in there
Who should I get to just clear story easily
Almost anyone will work
Is nanami star rail still good?
Story chapter is very very easy
any gen 3 is way too strong they all break the story telling š¤
One of the best possible character still in this day and age
the story shows a character like they are very strong and when you fight them you kill them in seconds
Then who should I get from base banner(S rank)
I'm missing like solacetune and pyroath. When are they available? And Watanabe tank
so u would recommend pull hangyin instead luna ?
Like right now?
They're available in the anniversary banner
I personally would
Oh fr? Damn so I got 17k saved up
I guess I can get one of them? Between Watanabe, solacetune and pyroath?
you can get either one of them in the anniversary banner but you have to be quick its fading away in a month
Ah alright ok
steve do you think veronica will replace watanabe
I personally wouldn't get Epitaph with black cards or any tickets by this point, you can get him for free by the next version after the collaboration from the free S rank character selector similar as the previous version
Noted
Ok. Pyroath or solacetune. Isn't solacetune Ultima slash right
yeah solacetune is ultima slash
If you have Vera: Geiravor, she can carry your Fire team by herself
Getting Solacetune would benefit you better in this case so you would have a proper Physical tank for any possible Physical team in the game
Including Ultima Slash team
Ok noted. But damn it's a hard choice for me now. My fire team is very weak. Hyperreal, Starfarer and Geiravor but physical is ok with Selena, Echo and Rosetta
So idk
and then you need to get a lot of black cards and summon the banner in thunderbolt manual, in there you will get a selector that can give you nanami startrail which dante craves to work properly
You can make that fire team strong
It's just gonna be depends on how you play it out
If you were in my shoes, solacetune or pyroath. Obviously if I get lucky to get both that would be amazing but I'm gonna assume I'm only getting one lol
You have Vergil anyway
Why wouldn't you get Solacetune for him
for you solacetune
Nah trying to farm 2.5k bc daily from story alone is painful
Thanks is she sig reliant?
with vergils affix help solacetune deals truck damage
I'm completely new to the game and i don't know who or what to pullā who should i pull from anni banner and beginner banner?
Do I have to do combos?
You can play her without a signature weapon at least as long as you have a proper attacker to deal damage (either Vergil or Pianissimo will work)
just know that you MUST skip dmc if you started
Itās so easy with Dante
like stay completely away from dmc
Alright thank you for info
as of rn what characters do you have?
wrong vid
As i said i'm completely new so i never pulled any banner
nvm
oh so just lucia lotus and liv eclipse right?
Ok got her earlier than expected! Do I go for pyroath or solacetune sig?
Yeah yeah
Damn you're lucky
its too early for you to gamble, play the story first 
here w1 clear with lilick
24s wave 1 clear
DMC Collab is just dropping everything for me after countless months of pity 
doomed
did you take off the memories before recording why š
ik 
what memories
the last video was ppc run
nvm im just surprised at how low of a damage lilith deals when she holds attack
Honestly I don't know
There's so many things you can prioritize at this point
i can't recreate this run anymore 
breath to kill ahh 
btw im on legend so i think u could clear w2 with lilick too ig
i did 49 resets
35 waves, maybe if i went bald i could reach 37-38
i see ⦠
bald wolf
is solacetune absolutely necessary for physical if i have piano and echo
very
so technically I should pull for her instead of pyroath ss3?
man, dont pull for ss3 if u dont have units
full element coverage> ss3 with missing element coverage
also what's that new bianca
dark attacker
i wanna pull for her tho she's awesome
she comin in this patch?
next patch
so this patch only dante and vergil and anniversary banner?
yup
yea, wasteland patch
also not necessary to pull for dante and vergil yeah?
not necessary yeah id say that
alr, i dont really have a connection with the characters so I don't feel like pulling, they are okay
Just change rotations whenever seeing brick points
have u seen timer screen
?
but personally i think its good to have one of them so that ur not missing out on ts and burning affix content although u could cover burning with solo nanami
Wut start you going with 
so zaza qte timing and pure luck on group up
you think pulling nanami ss3 in the future would be better than pyraoth ss3?
definitely
how much of a damage increment will i see
tried the usual 12415
Cw bike use grouping problem solved
ss3 pyroath is only qol in plasma beam teams
lmao
yeah i tried every cub only that one works consistently š
guys i tried to search for past 20 mins for that 2 piece memory, what even is that? where do we get it?
yeah the bike and nanami one is pretty good for crowded stuff
Nanami cub got grouping as well?
what in the zaza u cooked, no lingya?
yea
Nah I like balding went with deer
6.7-6.9
yea, just reset rng till they group up for 0:02 1wave kill 
You tried davinci?
My chances are mostly high whenever I super fast prok davinci
That first wave kill with zig zag
did u managed to wipe w2 with lilick too?
Upto 3 can
with ult or not
Wave lock there but not worth wave 2 is fine
Without
damn its possible to clear w2?
but this is hero
that is cottie on cn
My id idk I one tapped everything 
why does general chat tell newbies to invest in dmc bruh š
Let them brick
why u didnt second ult on nanami at 0:20? 
Ppl in here just a rotation spammer 
thats the way to play the game 
Wave locks
Even if I did ult there progression would be stayed same better ult at last sec
ah wait i didnt get to the end
Nah majority would disagree 
yea just saw the ult
Xale hax ion as usual

Dilemma here, sig for solacetune or get Pyroath
Have 10k bc
Got Vergil + free copy + his sig
Got Dante sig
what u think of wilde vs 4cottie @noble zinc
id say pyroath first then pyroath sig then solace sig
characters over sigs
Ok thanks. Fire team would then be
Pyroath Geiravor Starfarer, do we get another selector Soon?
next patch up until qu selector
Alright thanks
which build is correct for dante and vergil the bot info or rec equip?
dante 4 shakespear 4 cottie
vergil 4 patton 4 cottie
what about resonances
both attack +15 and signature
2 Wilde very slightly better in wz diff better noticble in ppc warzone you won't feel anything
Oh wow qu chapter is the only decent one for me so far
and weapon resonance is?
just get dlt for both
I want that super armour for first lucia rotation so 4cottie mostly I go
Nanami: Startrail's SS3 makes her generate Ignition stacks 50% faster
Does this affect Dante's rotation in any way?
Doing the SDT spin with the red orb charges Ignition to 20 and activates it anyway, is Startrail even needed...?
Thank you very much
What type of questions is this lol
Yes she's very much needed
She's the Sub-DPS and fun fact, her damage is very close to Dante's damage atleast for lower ranks
She's literally holding the team together, ignition can work without Dante, like someone literally did 6m+ score with SS0 Nanaknight.
Dante is the DPS who boosts the score.
What type of questions is this lol
I didn't know, hence I asked :|
Thank you, didn't realize she was that essential
Can i use Zitherwoe instead of Solacetune until i get her? (for Vergil ofc)
who are the best supports for pyroath lucia?
vera geiravor and watabe epitaph for fire
for plasma: nanami startrail and lilith daemonissa
No
They serve different purposes
Solacetune is a tank, zitherwoe is a support
Better to use rosetta instead as a copium option but vergil without solacetune is pretty dead
With Nanami: Startrail's pizza cutter, if I hold yellow to activate it, can I immediately let go of Yellow once it's activated and it will use up half a gauge?
Why
Mainly because she assists in stacking ultima slash points and is the best physical tank
Why doesn't zitherwoe work? Sorry if i'm asking dumb questions but i don't know a thing when it comes to meta i usually just freestyle everything
would ss3 selena or ss vergil do better in ts
u need tank for shred
Zitherwoe is a support, she serves a different function
Tanks are necessary in this game to allow attackers to do more damage
Or allow anyone to do more damage, really
You can't compare Nuke who is a beast against a casual
I thought amplifiers were the main buffers
I guarantee that if you do one solo hanying rotation compared to one vergil rotation, hanying wins every time because she can shred enemy defense, allowing her to do more
tank class is for resistance shredding (aka amplifies your team's dmg vs enemies)
zitherwoe isn't a tank, she's a support and so she lacks the phys shred that a tank would have
hence why rosetta can be a copium option (she is a phys tank)
Nope
Tanks are far more important than amps
is that in plasma or nihil
If you don't have a tank on your team, say goodbye to any chance of doing good damage
ion
both technically kinda true
you know how in some games you have buffers (support) and then you have debuffers (defense shredders, etc)
but in PGR the shredders are more impactful than buffers
how the ion scores so high i got 4.6 mil š
skillz
nah im kidding maybe investment
i have ss3 ss3 sss
Gotcha. So then what are supports used for? For example with Vergil's main team there's an amplifier (Alisa) and a tank (Solacetune), so you just fight with no heals and hope that you don't get hit? Unless Solacetune gives a strong shield or something because i don't know what her kit does
nvm thats skill issue
š
Amplifiers give buffs based on healing
Alisa provides healing, and has buffs tied to healing.
Ngl i had no idea she even heals LMAO i just press buttons and hope for the best most of the time
they call it tank in PGR which is half true and kind of misleading because people think tank = no dmg and only needed if youre dying
but in PGR tanks are basically enemy res shredders (but yes they also survive extremely well)
So in PGR, the "typical" team comp is DPS / Support / Tank
support = healer or amplifier (there's two classes)
tank = tank
you can't run double support and do a lot of damage, because for example, Amplifiers' class passive makes them buff the dmg of the next incoming character
you cant run double amp because if you try to switch Amp -> Amp -> DPS, the first amp's buff is snatched up by the second amp.
and then this team lacks the powerful shredding from a tank
The pulls i did on vera banner 1 patch ago the pity wont reset right
Solacetune is basically a "launcher" for Vergil. She can build up True Slash stacks, which increases Vergil's JC and JCE damage, and she also shreds physical resistances.
Thank you so much guys i'm such a noob
dw its understandable if youre newer
its also bc to play casually and just enjoy story and basic event stages, you can indeed just ungabunga and clear majority of it
Any semblance of typical "class" roles are pretty irrelevant in pgr 
Just keep that in mind
Tbh she's just a buff bot in the team. Her signature memory and Da Vinci are doing most of the work.
over time the class names became more and more misleading
esp with some "attacker" class being weaker than amplifiers or tanks of same element 
You'd think attackers would be the main dps of any team, but right now that only applies to 2 teams of the main 6 elements
Every other team has an amplifier or tank as their main dps, as an example
Yeah, just look at Nanami the "Tank" out damaging Crimson Weave and on par with Dante lmao.
not 3?
its wild that dark team rn is basically an amplifier with two random bozos on her team because everyone else does so little dmg output š
Only ice and physical have attackers as their main dps
Dark - lilith
Nihil - ishmael
Lightning - nanami
Fire - vera
Lilith with Nanami and Luna is viable too lmao. (For dark team comp)
also btw solacetune (the phys tank you were recommended) actually does pretty good dmg output as well, she's not a waste of a slot. shreds and carries
The reason i'm even asking about teams is because i'm trying to grind stronghold for more BCs and my Vergil gets one tapped at 7103 BP (should be more than that but i don't have enough stuff to hypertune my lower row of MCs)
no shot vera out dpsās lucia
She does
Gotcha, i'll try to get her asap

By a large margin
Ss0 vera > ss3 pyroath even
yeah ive heard about this variation -- but I think it still stands that the lack of a clear BIS really shows that lilith's teammates are kind of flexible
Lucia at SS3 or below gets mogged by Vera tho
ss3 pyro is a scam tbh
doesnt help that one modifier thats like attack go up if your 40% hp and under
Only for fire
Good qol for ion to enable 5s on third rotation
Iāve been lied to 
I miscalculated I didn't want to get dante sss but whatever
Mainly just Nanami being broken af with her AoE DoT shred. Luna is just there to provide the passive lol.
last month I was very underwhelmed by fully geared SS0 pyro but I figured -- eh makes sense she's not SS3 yet. Then I got SS3 and barely feel a difference 
side news: that buff is currently bugged as it keeps counting during tlc, so by the time it reaches lucia the buff is long gone fr
Bruh
bruhh
nanamis back breaking from carrying so many copium teams
no wonder my lucia dmg was so ass
Lighting, Plasma, Dark, Ignition, Light (next patch spoiler) The Sage Machina is the Atlas holding up the PGR meta right now.
That would explain a lot of things
in plasma wz?
Unbuffed 3s pyro vs ss0 vera 
why? don't you rotate wata-vera-pyro in ss team?
fire, where did you get plasma from vera vs lucia
The buff lasts what, 12s?
23s
If it ticks in tlc then the buff expires from vera double rot
yeah but doesn't she renew her buff during 2nd rot? and then 23s should be enough for pyro even without timestop, or no?
ah, finally got her skin, malding more enjoyable 
then it would have been mentioned, no?

didn't see so I'm ok

the lengths people go to when theyre down bad is crazy
it doesn't renew 
legendary lilith leglock
yea it doesnt
that explains. pyro sucks at vera weather. it would be more objective if we had pyro or wata weather on global
who pinged me
the white coating lilith goes funny

how would the rc one look 
i havent experienced that yet
what about upcoming lilith skin 
debating it, but next might be better
the green one really looks good
i like that she has normal legs in green one
why do you shake your rc here
ugly skin imo, standard is still better
wdym normal legs those things have blades in them
i mean, look like skin
does anyone know when skins get added to shop? feels like the lilith one got added in a snap
but white coating gives murderous bride vibes š
2 patches after release
shaking his booty
i feel like the white coating could have used a lot more stuff
Yeah, but it is a free(?) skin
you can farm for it
yea its free
but yea, i already got it as soon as it came out 
it's now available on coating shop
ah alright, d'yknow what skins actually get added
yeah I do just expect free coatings to basically be color swaps
what shop skins are worth it anyway, ive been hesitant since theyre all super outdated frames
well all but a few
the newer ones of course. old ones are horrendous
dante/verg actually gave me quite alot of free coatings mat
at least remove the makeup that makes her look sleep deprived in that skin, the contrast is so jarring
lilith 100% comes across as a drug addict who can't sleep
best skin, but u should have gotten it last patch for whale bracket
actually hyperreals is quite good
waiting for new lee frame 
if I used him I wouldve already bought it
hellsing clears
is it me or i prefer nanami's candy coating instead
good skin yeah, but too much effects. i wanna remove my eyes after using it in training room
already cheating on jetavie. smh
I actually like nanami's base star knight look the best 
wtf, jetavie is the only one on my main screen and desktop
and i love hanying's base design. no coatings actually needed
i feel bad i didnt get ocean secret
id feel like a fool if I invested in lilith's coating tbh
Agree. Another one for me is Ishmael. Base design is too goated
best mems for vergil? 4 patton 2 cottie?
im going all in on lilith
ish skin is like constant flashbang on screen
4 patton 4 cottie for warzone yeah
hanying base skin is good, but i prefer her debut paid skin more. also water themed skin is good, and the recent one is meh
and with 6 min of cutscenes in wz, it would burn your eyes out in long run
i tried her goddess coating, saw nothing during the run, and switched to her standard skin 
hanying's firecracker coating gives me goose bumbs every time she does that crappy shing attack
goddess isnt so bad, have u tried the new one
does hanying works good with her signature ? or should i try to get her signature
that sound effect was bugging me
nightmare. idk how anyone can use it lol
which out of the like 7 vergil builds should i do 
channel name fits perfectly
Ok I got his sig what else does Vergil need to preform at a good level
Yāall should I do SS3 Dante + sig or SS + sig + cub?
ss3 hanying with sig, and sss echo with sig
the new one?
Minimum meta
yea
yes
I didnt thnk it was that bright
Damnit
should i go for sss vergil or sss dante?
up to you bro. how deep is your BC savings and wallet?
can hit pity on one of them
are you prepared to mald?
i will mostly be using vergil since i already ss3ed pyroath
i say vergil, coz you can cope in ignition with nanami. that is, if you have her
dante is nice but not focused on him for meta

yeah i thought the same thing
have them both ss3 luckily so i can still use dante in ignition team
this mf whel
spend more
nah i saved 50k bc 
plus luck on some pulls
go for it then. just prepare 15k BC for bianca next patch
aight thx
Ok so like what's with all the builds on vergil in bot info
Which should I use for his ultima slash team
Are you
how tf vergil and dante have many build like that LOL
what is general build for them?
sss3 is beyond reach for many of us sadly
Am I blind or did the weekly mission not refresh?
meant to paste that instead of what nonsense I pasted beforehand
there was ingame note that weekly mission is bugged and they will compensate
Yay
Click this thread
I read it too quickly to get the details, just saw something about "weekly misssion...compensate" and was satisfied 
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nice threads by the way man
i demand 3k for the damage and 9k for emotional distress
It's because DMC collab is surely causing EOS

cruel and unusual punishment
Would you look at that, even meta help increase chat cool down, dmc truly a sign of EOS 
whats that cursed collab that causes EOS, persona? we need persona collab
i demand 20k due to depriving me of my private property and invading my personal space(They got rid of my free bc
)
For the dante and vergil cubs
What skills?
For dante 4 and 5, vergil 1 and 4?
Demon of death, dance of swords, overtop gear and road rasb
Its hell here
SS0->SS3 Vergil or SS3->SSS dante?
obviously SSS Dante
Sss Dante, cause you have 2 times of pull 1 get 1 free that mean 4 Vergil = ss6 Vergil, but you can get 1 free Dante in story event collab so you can get SSS Dante after use 2 times pull 1 get 1 free from Dante
common sense gotta be a troll question
Yes from story event collab
Whats the next ppc?
u are alive? 
I was gonna just grab the RC pack for ss3 Vergil
Ye lol, Iām just brick my account dump all in to dmc 
But then I thought I might as well use the rc to get extra pulls and sss dante
Well I got some bc left to ss3 nanami and hanying 
Should I buy nanami coat and Vera coat 
personally i got nana coating

Did you brick for dmc?
Explore the 44 characters of Wolfie from the Europe server of Punishing: Gray Raven.
account is far from bricked
No Dante?
Explore the 53 characters of K1NGST4RK from the North America server of Punishing: Gray Raven.
what mems for 3S virgin and daryl as ignition and true slash?
Just need to do story for 3s Dante 
idc for dante, will do story later on
And I spend mine yellow ticket to get ss3 hanying and nanami
no qu or daren? bricked
I need to get ss3 hanying she so tight to play at SS
Eye of Sauron goes so hard
Esp now that we can acc play ignition teamš
Is it still available
Look like Iām gonna get nana coat 
I wasn't sure about spending 50 bucks considering how bad my device is š
Yup
Itās available for like another month ish? I think
The pity from anniversary banner will carry over the feature characters banner next patch?
Iām def gonna be buying some of the packs in the shop first, to guarantee some ss3 and stuff before getting coatings tho
On the next anniversary banner will
hope you like getting bricked in ignition wz without an invested dante
Oh fk no!!!!!
Pretty sure whelfieās got sss nanami soloing for ignition
Free Dante so it wont
SSS dante blows SSS nanami outa the water for ignition
Right but itās still enough to retain legend
my ts will outscore your ignition 
I thought it carry over next patch, why did build pity for it 
Then still not brick
Lmao u never build pity in this game
Well I gotta use those pity for Selena or pyroath
Like literally whatās the point
I was try to test mine luck
Itās fine u can still get like 11k bc this patch anyways
If I can get another nanami I can go for 3s
So u can easily finish it off before the end. Even easier if ur monthly pass buyer
Same I did try my luck aswell by pulling 16x on it but no luck
The pity is low in this game so so are the rates. Usually not worth to gamble like that
I can finish it rn, Iām at 50 pity with 8k bc
Oh great I should be able to get vergil weapon then
Yup 7500 or 15000 if ur unlucky
Better save your bc and use event tickets on it
So Selena and pyroath who should I get?
Selena
pyroath
Alr use all event
where selena
Why didnāt u get Selena last patch..?
I mean ss3
With this patch I think we can get around 5k event tickets so better just save
so apparently over the course of the years i managed to put 50 pulls in anniv banner, which one is better to get to ss3
selena or nanaknight
but from where
Anniversary
100% selena is higher prio
Much better to use event tickets on that anniversary banner instead of bc
ss3 selena yea
there is no new selena tf u on about
???
also has prio over ss3 nanaknight right
FULL STOP
id say equal
anniversary is up to lilith, where u got new selena from
16/60 anniversary banner still no wata š
id put nana teeny tiny bit more prio
Wut fk
Oh yea it was only KR that had up to Selena in it
does it sound like PIANISSIMO TO U

JP had up to selena,
KR had up to lilith
thats cappucino
Bro almost pulled for capriccioš¤£š¤£
Fk Kuro
missinfo-help
Nah thatād be on him if he canāt read the name right
there is no pianissimo in anniversary
is it because of the shred, or bc it puts combustible faster?
that'd be on u too for hyping him up for pulling dead unit
W or L?
Itās because Nana is the tank for 4 teams, Selena is dps in 2
I didnāt pull yet, Iām still at work
its bcz she has more coverage for teams
i guess that's fair
no hypertune?
Well only option left pyroath 
Selenaās ss3 upgrade is way bigger tho
signa?
do we know the WZ options for next week
I got this early morning š
what why me
bruh
no material to hypertune i only have 4 out of 6 MCs hypertuned š
mods?
and i thought i got lucky LOL
selena pianissimo ss3 outdps all ranks virgin in phys 
All in 3s nanami or ss3 pyroath?
nana
Welp but we bricked for him 
how cooked is my vergil without solacetune?
Pretty much well done
he has ss3 selena...
i got everyone ss3
oh yeah i did harmonize the wrong set lmao
But SS Selena better than 3S Vergil at phys or the same?
nods, with tears in eyes. gotcha, thanks. solacetune isn't limited so i'll just keep my vergil ready for when i can pull her
Lies, no ss3 dante
bit lower but who doesnt ss3 selena
I got no dante at all 
ss3 nana is a big diff in burn, solo can go over 7m with sss lilith + luna / sss vera
What team to use if i want to solo with nanami in ignition? Vera and who would be the last slot?
Is this correct build for glacio selena 4pcs klenova 2pcs cottie?
not qu
solo nana should also be better than swapping with S dante š
She would be holding down my ice score
Yeah i aint getting any more copies so thats why im running solo nanami but who would be last slot any qte both?
what rank is ur lilith and vera
3s wanshi carry us fr 
i actually didnt even see ur message until after xD sorry so ye that was just directed generally, not at you
Vera S rank(in the future ss) and lilith is ss3
@rocky wedge its fine lol

use luna oblivion 4dv 2 gloria 2 ein (if harmo, otherwise 2 ein only), lilith 4 bathlon 4 guin
Sss wanshi or sss lilith both are ss3 rn
Wanshi
Thanks
which of the 2 brothers benefits more from getting them to SSS?(Vergil or Dante)
https://youtu.be/Kx5L7i-RTbA?si=Ov5Z1gUb3Dm8O_ef its very easy, kinda too easy actually that is annoying to have to keep redoing xd
Weather: Fire +30%, Burn +40%
SS0 Dante with investment obviously will have higher score here, but it is expensive - especially for a f2p or budget player. This video shows that you will be fine without DMC if you have to skip them, so don't worry C:
This score can go even higher with SSS Lilith, with SS3 Nanami the score is much much higher C...
literally like lightning but 2.0 version and with cottie
Lmao
Okay so i need to get cottie for her then lol
ye
she needs dlt still as well, even with swapping
well doesnt NEED it with swapping but it helps give much more score
I have dlt and dd so its fine(i was preparing for solo nanami)
SS3 hanying still need dlt right?
Her rots now is 6r for 2 rots right?
3r1y > 6r
Still same SS 
well ye its like before instead of repeating 3r1y with dlt, u can try do 6r on second ult rot - since she gets more orbs it might work
what characters can i use with dante because i didnt get vera
or just spam 6r can try that, think the timeloss might make dlt better tho
crazy that sigless SS dante does only slighter worse than her
Iām gonna test it later
did that person also use nanami?
Best off-element amp
Since you probably also don't have empyrea
whats that š ?
sophia

i only used crimson weave to do weeklys so i dont know much about teams
Amplifier
If nothing, just use a support
yes
what rank and invest?
SSS dante with sig can do 12 mil
SS with sig for the nanami
ye well no wonder then xd
was it double weather
but u would either have S or ss3 anyway, ss3 with sig improves the score a lot - tho I need to try both on same zone could be wrong but feel like shouldnt work that way
i mean, SSS dante costs like 25k vs SSS nanami which is like 90k so
but why waste 25k bc when u dont even need dante and ss3 nana is just fine
dante is fun?
no
SS3 should be 17.5k if you alr have her at SS
instead of getting dante ss3 might as well 3s nanami
or get virgin for ts score stonks
and nana is used in 3 other teams aside burn
3S nanami is diff story 
dante will be stuck in burn only
She can be use as cope fire tank 
SS to SSS is like 4 copies which is 60k
3 copies
Only 3 copies
do the battlepass frame shards also count towards Watanabe when he is getting leaped
math aint mathing
S to SSS is 4 copies
How do we unlock the stage 15
no it is not accumulative
untill next patch when wata leap will drop
Confirm?
both arent fun but nana is way better invest i mean thats obvious, doesnt mean ss3 dante is bad tho
darkflow leap, bigger shred field, shred field on qte, big qol
true. base, plus skulls, plus 3 copies is around 60k
ss3 dante isnt worth it
so which shards count the one from the battlepass in watanabe leap patch?
equally as not fun anyway, just depends if u can afford to get ss3 or not
Finally, a reason to 3s tsubakrick now 
either dont get him or 3s
do i go all in 3s nanami or save for ss3 crepuscule
still no darkflow content untill cw is here
or just get him in a few pulls i guess or vergil xd then its worth
wata shards wont be in shard selector in a long time
chat im pretty tight on pulls, should i ss3 dante after his weapon or save more for bianca and weapons for my other characters?
if that doesnt work just give up early
ohh I thought since Echo was in her patch its the same for him or was it bc sync
no it's cuz echo is after cw in release
Me alr 3s brother, now just need to all in to get 2 copies nanami for 3s 
but Wata gets in voucher on his leap no?


thankfully I didn't scrap it
