#📨・meta-help
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now where's your sss selena
i kiwi
alr thankss
You should ask if they have DLT first Cryo
maybe when dmc drop so i can use my blue selector

oh right dlt
Do you have DLT

do u have deadline timing reso on your wata
yeh. domain decons and deadline timing
only vera is homeless
im f2p ... i just like unc sm
yeh. im missing 9 units lol but at least my changyu has his sig

btw, i can like use wata's sig as fodder, right? dark wata
uh yeah sure
are you r3 ing epith
i would not reccomend that
but if you are aware then wtv
i wanna. but i kinda need to reso pyro's first, right?
mmh. what abt rosetta's sig? lol is she really useless now?
Question for meta players, what's the point? I mean most content in the game can be cleared with minimal investments, so why do people tryhard their characters so much? Is there some sort of hidden content where you need to be extra strong to clear it that i don't know about?
yes
ego and sharing with friends
useless internet points
rankings ig aka ego
perfecting how to use the charas
the timings,,the wave progression etc etc
it's the same logic as to why anyone would have fun at other games
why mald ranking at valorant,cs2
So all these people talking about "Vergil is not playable without SSS" are just bs? The reason i'm so confused is because i clear everything with Lucid Dreamer with a trash team, no signature weapon and him only being SS, so in my mind it's like "why do people sweat so much if there's nothing else to achieve?"
And if you couldn't tell, the reason I'm asking these probably pretty obvious questions is because I'm new and don't know any better
idk and i dont really care on why vergil is sh*t at sss0 or what not
Because the benchmark for people is Legend WZ/top IB/1.8M+ UPPC
i only know that he's bad at physical since his main intended usage is for trueslash affix
Which obviously would require a certain level of investment and sweat
But SSS Vergil or bust isn't necessarily correct either
But you don’t necessarily need to do that in order to get bc n stuff right?
Not really, but if you're talking to any veteran or lurk this place, chances are their goals are different from you
Well in competitive games you at least gain some rewards for your ranking and perhaps fame if you wanna go pro one day, in PGR as far as i'm concerned there aren't any ranking rewards worth grinding for, but then again maybe i just don't know because i'm still pretty much a newbie
game dont have anything else to entertain, so you end up minmaxing
Tbh WZ gives significantly more vouchers at higher ranks if you want shiny SSSes
unlocking ib feels good
So there's an incentive if you want, but the rich get richer
But yeah just having fun and sharing with friends makes sense
yes it's bs, you dont need much to get like 90% rewards. Higher ranks and sigs just make it easier or less frustrating(gacha predatory design to make problems and sell you solution)
That just sounds p2w
Unplayable without SSS rank is crazy
not really
Uh
It's not that p2w for WZ Hero at least, tbh if you optimize you can sustain Hero p easily even for a new acc
Someone legit said that in the "general-help" channel I'm not even exaggerating
it's someone with vergil pfp
what did you expect
The damage might be not upto the mark unlike SSS
But yan do stuff with SS0 Vergil bruh
It's only the voucher reward that has a noticeable difference in income, but in terms of Black cards gains it's almost 0 difference to actually make it "pay 2 win"
you dont really get something great for them, without getting additional vouchers you still clear content, so does not matter at all
Don't confuse rare materials with premium currencies
I'm saying that as an incentive for free SSSes, but you don't need to tryhard yes
Your money is not worth of more materials if that's your only concern
Gotcha
Increase income of vouchers by 600 weekly or just buy bps for 23k vouchers per patch 
Hi f2p im homeless
Imagine playing f2poor if u can just whel 
hello homeless im mambo
How come nanami is better solo if you dont got SSS cw?
the dmg difference between the two is just huge
that is if nanami has r1 dlt
hi guys I'm skill issued
do you know what north koreans and f2ps have in common? neither of them have human rights
even without dlt
if she doesnt have atleast dlt then you just need to swap
for cubs, i only need 5 pulls to get an s rank. which cub should i get? high key want lucid dreamer's
did zex misinfo me or am i a dumbass and misremembering
5* nanami is the questionable one
but having her r1 (dd) is enough
Theres a catch, sss cw still needs at least one reso, and then she is still powercrept by walter 
i mean
i would just say selena since it's 100%
and a dpses cub
Startrail was somehow designed to have a very great sustainability that her skills basically refunds some signal orbs after casting specific attack
Considering her high dps number, people are able to abuse this to make her dps uptime almost permanent that swapping to a lower investment sub dps (in this case Crimson Weave) is worse than just continue abusing Startrail sustainability
hmm i hate phys units but ure making sense lol (i dont have selena's sig, at least give her her cub)
That's why you would need a high rank Crimson Weave to justify her sub dps capabilities
What vera infinitas should i use?
It's kinda useless to choose one considering she basically turns all of the signal orbs into Blue orb before casting signature move
So just choose anything

I wanna share w people but I feel I did something wrong ingame 😭
If you feel like you did something wrong
You're likely to have done something wrong
Hello
I initially invested only on CW and not nanami when I returned

Right...
that's kinda just the norm at this point
Still outdpsed by ss nanami
just join me in bricked group chat. i main changyu
Aside from that I think im doing pretty well since im just achieving the base minimum w new characterd that I get
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I dont even know what that means and I see people reacting with that emoji 😭
2 patton selena :stare`
change that 2 patton to cottie
I initially invested only on CW and not nanami
did u follow in game rec
By general inhabitant
I meant you

I follow either the ingame guide or grayravens web
Ill make sure to chabge rhat tho
GR website is
Trying to fix
But i don't think it'll be anytime soon?
i dont even think grayravens recc that lol

uhhh please use the bot @vale raft next time
They aren't stupid
Not even the in-game recommendation is that stupid
Whats wrong with my 2021 acc🥺

It's bricked
6diesel cw..?
What does that even mean
uniframe alpha in 2025
uhhh are you aware how harmony work
Bricked = account progression killed cuz of pulling useless stuff or wasting pulls in useless stuff rather than meta
ok wow the whole unit have wrong memories lol
Im enjoying what I get
Sorry but
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ezra please
Oi who has 2.32.32 fire
me with changyu
WHERE IS MY S CHANGYU
We divided the chat for this exact reason
000 does that count
No
wow toxic
Just help the people
My bad twin
What's really hard about that
that's communist
communism is good actually
Just dont get corrupt
Woah there

Anyways
Most of your units need fixing for memories
Does epitaph even get field time with SS0 investment?
Or is he better off as a Da vinci holder?
Then why tf r u in the help channel, go and moderate those edaters and shtposters in general
U don't belong here
1rot dv holder
Da vinci holder with field time
refer to snazz for ss0 wz run
baby chill



Is the vera cub worth proritising over the other cubs right now?
Not rlly
not rlly
Idk the actual prio list tho
@autumn jetty I'll give you what you need to fix
ohio
Since there's a lot of factors when it comes to priority
skibidi

Fr? Bless up 🙏
4 alphonse 2 Einsteina (class resonance)
Unless you can solo Vera with no signature weapon somehow, don't use this set you have rn
why is that a thing
skibichii
skibichii
man i want some dominos rn


4 Da Vinci 2 Guinevere (Guinevere/Einsteina Harmony)
dominos kinda meh tho
4 Hervor 2 Cottie
But if you somehow can swap, use 4 Shakespeare 2 Cottie
hervor set looks so cool
Idk if this is right or wrong but shouldn't Qu use Cottie if no sig?
your area doesnt have any pizza place that isnt franchised
Not rlly
i have a pizza place pretty nearby
banging pizza and soups
4 Diesel 2 Cottie (Harmony Cottie)
it does but for some reason dominos is just calling to me
fair
or little ceasers
Fr
im sure you eat literal dominos anyway altera
5 Herschell 2 Heisen (Heisen Harmony)@autumn jetty
Typical asian
Bilippino

@ripe stag preciate it
ok so when are you making a new wz demo
Sacrifices must be made for luno
So what I see is that I should NOT follow the ingame guide 😭
ishtar clone
That goes for every game
Ishitar

Never follow in-game recommendation
NEVER
True
Literal Ishtarin clone
I eat sugar water with salted ice. For DMC funds
Not voiced by ueda kana
can you show me more of her feet
Wait
Hi hoes
U how
Nvm
Uh what?
That's Ishtar
I ain't one though
Oh shut up
I meant why her feet?
why not
Questions the one sending but not the one asking for more
I just got here?
It’s okay let’s kiss
I ain't into feet
Are you mortality challenged?
One more feet pic and i’ll quit pgr
Oh
It's just Ishtar and her shots in the anime being lal feet
Yes
ok sure
That explains everything
Me trying to explain why Ishtar's feet are peak gif material
Yeah ur bio explains everything aswell😔
Yup
I thought you had someone?
Doesn't make me less degen
Kuro cooking with feet again
People are ok with Iuno's feet
But not Ishtar's
Smh
Genshit players aren’t
Her design looks nearly 1:1 with Ishtar WHAT THE HELL
seed drip, now this 😭
You do or not? You're confusing me?
I have a gf yes
It’s not that bad bro y’all be overreacting she is lit a dancer
Try Kojima
ion know anything about wuwa
Genshin reddit going crazy over their new characters but it looks absolute cheeks. I can't
Wait she's not a goddess of war, fertility and sexuality?
Can I see the current team meta?
AIN'T NO WAY KURO DIDNT COPY THAT
@stuck berry
I’m skipped seed for orphie W or L?
Update the lightning team to waltur, nanagoat and 21 lol
do you have S anbi 
Waltuh doesn't really cover that much
waltur aint lightning
No sadly I don’t I’m kinda new to the game I got miyabi yuzuha yixuan and Elen
Is SS3 waltur better for darkflow than SS CW?
fck kinda of zaza
don't pull orphie, she's scam if u don't have anby/seed
sit down
I was thinking about maybe trigger than
walter does lightning damage? 
Glow dmg
Walter is a bit worse than same rank CW is Lightning WZ so all the conclusions remain about Nana solo
Here examples listed by Aethervoid:
Lightning weak exppc
Lightning does 2x
Glow does 1.75x
Ion/others do 1x
Ion weak PPC
ion 2x
glow 1.75x
lightning 1x
lightning wz
lightning 1.3x
glow 0.7x
ion/others 0.3x
how does that help with lightning
Read above
Heard that ss walter performs similarly to sss cw 

Not when she's punished by weather
Her raw damage yea, but in WZ when it's halved she's not outclassing CW
Wdym punished by weather

I mean Glow penalty in Lightning/Ion WZ

I mean yeah, glow deals only 0.7 but counting that she still gets buffed by lightning buffs/shreds, that still should be win 
At worst malding qte would make the definitive diff for cw
But for that cw needs sss
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You're just underestimating how much halved damage is
Heck people aren't even using SSS Bianca over SSS CW last week
When it was Lightning WZ
Need to open that on pc in 5 mins cuz phone cant translate
Lets be real, cn lowkey tunnel vision too much, if not global peeps they still would play supp gera 
Bruhhh

Lets be real, cn lowkey tunnel vision too much, if not global peeps they still would play supp gera

Cw ofc
I heard glb already broke the cn record in fire
about that 

omega cooked
How abt plasma lucia with Daren?
vera health has to be 40% for the weather effect to proc right? i feel like im doing something wrong cuz my healths always around 70 to 80%
solacetune only needs dlt for vergil right?
Or vera
this account dont even have daren to begin with 
i wouldve brute force plasma if i could
preferrably both dlt and dd, but dlt is needed for 2 rot
i love that coating 
ok but how do i unbrick cradle 
Lets be real, cn lowkey tunnel vision too much, if not global peeps they still would play supp gera
someone used fire without vera and got 580k 
aight fire it is 
I think you can try with any of your best team to bruteforce cradle at this point
Attempting to kill that so much of cradle without damage boost if you were to use a lightning unit
At least there's no damage penalty from using the inappropriate element
What leap skill on echo should I use if I'm building an ultima slash team with vergil and hanying?
I believe Echo leap upgrades are mostly meant for Glacio team support
But mah 5%-10% Physical Damage
whos walter
new bianca?
Damn OK still don't have a glaciation team sadly. Then is there any other amplifiers for ultima slash teams? Since echo doesn't do much ultima slash
Oh where is it from if I may ask
I may have missed some part in her leap upgrade
Echo is still required, if she's SS max her first Leap skill for extra 5% Physical Damage buff
I see
She needs SS to give 5% physical buff?
thats just additional
Anyone got that 1 image that sums up all the events/ banners and skins in dmc patch?
Nvm i found it
Ive been lied too😔, every time i asked they said its ALL glacio
no way they are bringing back that balter skin 😭
Its quite damn good tbh
Im getting that ish skin asap
same
It is coming dmc patch right?
yep
6th or later?

back to poverty for 1 month

really fcked up invest but
what the hell should 32.32 112 111 invest be getting in legend na fire
Bro 3s lucia with low invest support
8 mil+
I reverse
2.333
cool time to mald
I want mods to ban every DMC enjoyed here lol
reso 112 looks a bit sketchy tho
ideally 122?
invest quite lopsided dk breakpoints
Whats ur score rn-
gotta test yourself
3s pyro was a pulling mistake
6m

6m is low 
just wantap tho
whel chat at its peak
Oof
no actual mald put into it
Thats fine but 8m would be nice
Ss3 seems to be what makes dps 3x as strong😔
I would try getting ss3 vera, but I'm saving some funds for dmc 
😔
Nah SS3 vera not much of an upgrade
Get sss instead
ur gonna be cancelling her core so ss3 itself is quite pointless
true

3s
But SS3 buffs the single thing you don't cancel on her lol
It buffs the third ba damage hit
early pull 2 times at 40 each
and no sane person would leave a unit at ss6 so I had to get 3s
Inst her ss3 game changing af
Makes sense
3s pyro in 25k bc 
Thats damn good
won the last copy with fate in 13 pulls


it was holy brick waiting to happen if I didn't hit it early
which sss3 is better? sleepy boi or lilick?
True
I had an even worse invest before tho
Why get sss3
Save vouchers
3S3 Wanshi is big for Glacio
cuz I already have sss grandpa, and the next leap/voucher char prolly won't come anytime soon
I have lee wata vera at 212 000 000
Daemonissa because she's the current main dps for the dark element I guess?

I use my nana instead of wata tho
Who's the best pick from this timed selector? I will also be pulling for as much copies of Vergil when he arrives.
didn't consider affixes before, gut point 
although I'm sick of 10s hell lilith mald, so if I get mad enuff, ima make her sss3 tonight lul
m i d
Ask in general
whats the difference between ss3 and sss vs sss and sss3
it's more core dmg for lilick, just the thing I would need to make that 10s kill 1-2 tap instead of a 6 hours mald-fest 
Fair enough
3S3 Lilith is red orb damage + Plasma hold BA damage
technically, an SS cub would do it too, but I would need to pull one billie for that, and me afraid of offrates there 
no one in the selector supports vergil if dmc is all you care about
wdym noone alisa is there
Fair i think ill stick to sss lilith and wanshi tmrw then save
Is SSS lick = SS waltur?
free 

yeah, that, red orb
I dunno why I always call that core
red is basically part of her core, but the dmg comes from red orb indeed 
No one in here has played the new Bianca to know the damage difference if that's what you're looking for
It's good to mention, the new Bianca would likely have an off field attack that deals decent damage even at SS rank
I'm torn on saving Vouchers if future chara is vero/liv or getting SSS lilith.
is using a 222 111 111 ts team with vergil hanying alisa good enough for content? (ppc and wz)
Get sss lilith and wanhsi then call it a day
Anyone have a Wata I can borrow for Norman?
what server?
Yes tis enough
NA
rip 
thanks
Just ping me whenever🙏🏼
Or ig I could run Nihil but I’d rather not
Y not
Cuz my Luna weak asf
Solo ish
She runs out of orbs eventually
Well
Although ig Norman isn’t bad enough that that would matter
Ugh
I don’t like the Nihil team🤣 plus fire is bigger boost
what about sss wata
should i skip dante and vergil, are they play an important part in meta?
You can just make your Parhelion to a Fire tank if you need Epitaph
Assuming you do have both Pyroath and Geiravor
Or at least Pyroath and Sophia
i wanna save for selena coating
Yea I got pyro and vera
I’m more worried abt lightning lol
SS nanami with no sig boutta fight the boss on her own
Monay?
Nah SS3 pyro not worth
Hanying then?
Waltur
I have enough yellow tickets to pull 2
Then you can save ur monay
- Nanami: Startrail
- Selena: Pianissimo
- Lucia: Pyroath
- Ishamael: Parhelion
- Hanying: Solacetune
- Vera: Geivaror
Just get whoever you want to be honest
Alr got sel
Oh ykw
Maybe it is just Nanami, cuz I need a couple sigs too
Hers and Wanshi’s lol
At this point SS3 rank upgrade for any character is just a performance increase like any rank up upgrades in the game
"Couple of sig? " Expand
It's no longer "needed" to do certain strategy or technique that's required to do good on some specific content
I don’t have Nanami and Wanshi sig. that’s all xD
Get whoever you want as long as it's not a very very outdated character by this point
It's your pulls, you know what its worth
for nanami solo, since cw isnt going to see field time anyway - what memory set should she be running if 21 is already holding 4 dv
I think most ppl run a 2nd amp instead of cw no?
Neat part is ya don't use her not even as QTE bot. Just use another healer/amp
If you're staying with Crimson Weave and Feral Scent team composition, you can use these following set
Startrail with her main set
Weave, 4 Piece Davinci and 2 Piece Einsteina
Feral Scent 4 Piece Guinevere and 2 Piece Gloria (5 start weapon)
do we even have another lightning amp?
If you have a High rank Daemonissa/Geiravor and Oblivion, there is a better team composition for Solo dps Startrail with enough investment
That's unfortunate then
He's talking about using a second support/amplifier in the team you can utilize more healing based support memory set to maximize the buff that Startrail benefits when she's the only dps on the field
Because you know, Crimson Weave obviously can't do any form of healing
To equip any support memories
It's better if that said second support has a weapon harmony upgrade for an even more memories set effect
but the amp in question doesnt need to synergize with the energy type
It doesn't have to as long as you already have Feral Scent in the team
my best amp would be lilith
but her harmonization is on cottie
I guess I have my s-5 geravior
Do you have a weapon resonance skill on her?
DLT
im saving my usb sticks for the dmc collabs
How about the other support/amplifier weapon resonance
Do you have any of them?
no...
I see
was my poverty that obvious?
Feral on 2eins, 2gloria, 2samantha
thanks
man poor cw
I knew that kuro giving everyone a copy of her was too good to be true
for the fire war zone
So
Considering your Startrail has her signature weapon at least, you can use these memory sets for a team of Startrail, Feral Scent and Daemonissa for a solo dps Startrail
Startrail - her main memory set
Feral Scent - 2 Piece Einsteina, 2 Piece Gloria (5 star memory) and 2 Piece Samantha (5 star memory)
Daemonissa - 4 Piece Davinci, 2 Piece Guinevere and Guinevere set as the Harmony upgrade
Extra note
You can change Daemonissa weapon resonance skill as you wish to any skill, so you can Change it to I believe called Superconduct Axial Ray.
You can also change Daemonissa weapon harmony upgrade with a specific material that you can purchase in the simulated battlefield shop
is it worth cheesing the fire war zone bonus with nanaknight ignition mode?
my vera and epitaph are both so weak
You can technically use her as a Fire Tank to provide your other Fire element character more damage
stares at vera without SS
But by herself, her damage would be significantly lower because Startrail ignition/burn mode is not considered a Fire element
ohhhh
Resulting her damage would be significantly lower because of the fire stage penalties
gotcha
seems a hassle to change the harmony and resonance skills for lilith everytime
Well
I'll probably go with geravor on davinci duty then
If you want the best of your characters list, that's what you gotta do
cuz lilith is my main dps for my hodgepodge dark team
how does outlier point work
it's like ppc but unlimited attempts
It's a menu for all of the previous Ultimate Phantom Pain Cages bosses that was replaced with the new bosses as updates keep going throughout the time
All of the bosses in the outlier menu once were in the active cycle
It's a way for you to achieve all of those bosses achievement mission for some Pain Skulls rewards despite not being in a cycle anymore
How to do 2 hold ba in selena?
Like in windbell style where they do this orb → hold ba (keep holding ba until ult animation(2x hold ba total)) → orb
What rank was their Selena in the vid
Ss0
Can u send link
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Ping once, hold Ba and keep holding, then ping once again while holding ba then ult
Hmm pretty confusing huh lol
U cant hold BA before first 3ping
So orb first then ba?
3ping > start holding BA and keep holding it > 3ping > ult
Once dash animation starts u can 3ping again
should I dump CWs sig weapon for nanami r2? 
How?
Just do it lmao
Is virgil cub much more necessary for him rather than selena and her cub
Oh yeah make sense
Ur holding BA at the same time as ur pressing the 3 ping so the animation goes off instantly
Im at 16/20
I mean yes
U dont have to rn
If ur CW isn’t SSS then yeah. She shouldn’t even be on the team anymore
U can also use it for a diff reso
nah im using it for nanami cuz im tryna 580k cradle lmao

Lul
Do u need r2 to 580k??
Lets cut out harmo for additional reso Clueless
my lightning team isnt even that good
Ppl were getting pretty close to 580 even without her sig
If u wanna do that you’ll need to swap CW to a second amp
That has a harmonized weap
two amps work???
Instead of spamming BA hold BA
both are big for affixes contents but lilith > ws imo
Magic of zaza
Spam BA is more accurate for us
Easier to control the amount of stabs
would ish & vera work cuz theyre the only two to have sigs and have harmo lmao
I’m not sure if ish turns into tank or amp in this case
Actually doesn’t she lose that ability if u alr have both?
Ish breaks with amp and tank
Just harmo ur Feral weap
i dont have 6 feral 
It’s free isn’t it?
not free if im right, i think you can get her 6 sig on the paid battlepass thing one
i only got her 5 when I finished hers
Ah ok nvm
Lets cut out harmo for additional reso
Lets cut out harmo for additional reso
I need PGR to let me bind different controls for different characters, so I can play Dante & Vergil with nearly identical controls to DMC 5 with a controller
lol
even if you could, you would get nowhere close
these characters are heavily simplified in inputs
I feel like scores should be higher what the hell am I doing wrong im following the rotaion of spider2b on yt
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what's ur team?
Ss dlt selena and hanying S alisa
UH UUUUUUH
WHY IS YOUR ALISA ON GUINEVERE
aintnoway
dmc only skippable chars rn. free characters dont gacha a copy of them - farm them for free with vouchers. Dont spend BC on fate banner or Arrival. Don't pull old CUBs, the new ones are 100% during most of their patch that they are released

took me not even a min to say that idk why its hard to say
what does veras cub buff on her? 
whoops glaciation build...
Also
What's spider2B rot ?
ult1
theyre voucherable...? 
Increases the amount of damage done by ult 1
do I just write down the entire thing
hmm, should I pull for it or do I got for nanamis
the free S ranks yes, DMC no that is not what i said
Record and send
Done all that but why voucher tho? What abt phantom pain scar?
Oh, I thought you meant DMC 
err okay please gimme a moment
no, their weapon and CUB banners also not discounted and 80/20
cause u need to save those for the gacha only characters
Only phantom scar when theyre not voucherable and are top prio
kinda like selena, pyroath, hanying, nanami, etc. 
why spend skulls for characters u can rank up with vouchers
the skulls u should keep for the characters u cant buy shards for in the voucher shop
That was also my mistake on wanshi, good thing I got those skulls back quickly 
like selena and vera this patch for example u should use skulls, lilith should use vouchers
Ohhh i get what you mean. Like alisa echo and cw and stuff
if u have excess skulls and are aware u wont need them, then sure can use them on the voucher char to rank them faster
CW is better no invested in once you get or have Nanami Startrail with sig R1
Just use voucher first on wanshi then lilith, and the rest is up to you
ye but I mean usually F2P will be spending their vouchers on the free characters
lilith / wanshi for example
and probs will be more in future
leaped characters added there we dont really get chance to buy shards for those characters
Is just an example, i know you can only use cw when she get triple s
if u are spending then its different
Who??
It's a great name
Heisenberg?
sexist smh
when bianca comes out, im gonna go full whale on her💔
pgr community gonna get that label next with 2 woman characters with male nicknames
I'm still waiting for luna obl to be voucherable💔🥀
I got ss for alisa echo using voucher
thats fine
its fine
she was a free one
is vergil pet sword important or i should go for his SSS
Best custom orb for hyperreal?
yall got any sauce for dark zaza
069420
nuke
Does this actually lead to anything good
idk 
Walter = white balter
SSS is better, you only go for the pet if you don't have enough for SSS (if you're at like SS3 or something). The pet gives a juicy 50% dmg increase to Vergil's ult but the SSS is worth more imo

Ur projecting ur male views onto the nickname 
i know that, a monkey could figure that out doesnt stop it being dumb xd
I don't have a proper ice team yet. Like i have the free character but i haven't invested in them yet and i don't have qu
go for ss0 sig cub then 3s
youre handicapping yourself by not getting cub
she doesnt need to be upgraded tho
- she is on chopping block since she is old asf
her SS is useless for her, SSS only useful upgrade which is too expensive for old character - also ishmael can just be used instead if one has her
grandma
put grandma to bed
she is qte slave in ice so her SS wont provide anything useful
Cows deserve to rest too
How about we make Daren even more relevant 
watch karen outlive lilith
and still not booted and she has the worst skillset rn also like wtf
She found a new place in darkflow
Karen skippers in shambles since 3 years

doesnt her aoe shred not work in timestop too?
2nd leap for horizontal spin to win
i swear its on purpose
kuro think they are funny
Why is she the only physical support there is
I can be ishmaels physical support
I DON'T HAVE ISHMAEL
alisa?
Shame
Yea
cause of her sig memory
Everyday she lives 1 more day I'm enjoying skippers' tears
Physical DMG increases by 5% and Extra DMG Bonus increases by 5%.
Base DMG of Imprisoning Co-Strike and Soulbreaking Co-Strike increases by 100%. Allies healed by Echo gain an extra 20% CRIT DMG and 75% CRIT Rate for 8s. Triggering this effect again will renew its duration.
132
66
223
1491
I'm too broke for sig
nothing else really can be close to her at all for physical, since phys can crit
get a job bro

I HAVE MONEY BUT NO BANK ACCOUNTT
get a bank account

I love how crit started as some cool extra dmg but actually crit is nothing but a phys debuff

My mother keeps on telling me "tomorrow" and repeat
how can you have money and no bank acc
Signa won't buff Alisa's Glacio Co Strike damage right
unless youre underaged ofc
are you asian
Best custom orb for Hyperreal Lee?
Hellyea
im asian
I AM
underaged shouldnt play gacha games. smh
Wait how old are you supposed to be?
The bank account? How old?
atleast 16 for where i live
ye literally
sg
WAHTT
maybe not if not for freaking floating dmg Dx
my bank acc is that old

play minecraft or something
ojisan 
Played it beat it
pgr f2p 
Is f2p really that bad?
in pgr? yeah
alright here, thanks for pointing out that alisa I would have never noticed otherwise https://youtu.be/nWPOZOB4EGI?feature=shared
you need 46k for dmc. how is that f2p friendly

skip
wat
10k for to get the character you want
donte is free, patch gives enough bc to pull virgin
7k to get the weapons
17k that's it.
no
ass invest
Except for the cub...
what you gonna do with that lmao
23k take it or leave it
USE SELENA
new liv? no way
its not that bad 🤡 its literally one of the most f2p friendly
ehh
do u play f2p?
You should have seen mortal kombat gacha
im guessing not or if u are u arent playing wisely
Is like hell
if u want to play f2p in any gacha u should play smart, tho with other games u can be smart and get screwed by bad gacha rates
but pgr has good ones so no worries
snazzlao spitting facts
Isnt pgr f2p friendly? i mean i was able to get all s rank with weapons since i started playing in shapers ripples
unless very unlucky like my global acc then u would need to spend
💀
but i dont think this is common + even with bad luck in this game u get good luck anyway cause of the rates
just should play the patient game, since its also team based so u have to play around new characters and not old ones
dont pull for skins and youre good
well ye thats not being smart as a f2p player anyway doing that
tsubricki has already claimed many victims
like u cant expect to do well if u are doing stuff like that
i mean, 90 pulls for a unit with weapon its very good nowdays, u wont be able to get gacha skins without sacrificing units but f2p isnt as bad here afaic
not taking into accoutn losing 80 20 on wep, thats just veeeery unlucky
the gacha skins are visual anyway
skip dmc to pull selena coating gotcha
just borrow a friends in norman from time to time
I'm NOT using vergil in wz, that's only for admiring purposes
u can borrow in norman? no way
will start doing it to complete my ice team
unless its disabled now? but u used to be able too
i dont and my friend list is empty 
i cant imagine they disabled it with how the game works but i wouldnt be surprised
right, my friend list is empty to, theres no point
forgot that borrowing exists
or guildmates work too
reject 

i forgot u can have friends tbh
no randos in my dms
my only friends are my sensei and 2 students i once managed
Spoken like a true gacha gamer
its like wuwa also its kinda redundant
yes
where 69k
Ok
if u want to flex ur bc there is trophy room also u know xd
meta wise idk tbh, they seem too expensive ngl
i thought u had alot bc 
No like I am asking
30k all in for DMC is surely a good pick right?
only 30k just save for bianca
get dante + sig + cub and leave it as that
ss0 dante gonna need the dmg
ss3 
I actually have 65k rn
dont u get one copy?
In main account
no thats dante
i would only pull vergil
Lmao
sorry mbmb xdd
why 2 of em? pull 3
tsubricki inc
the more the better
I can't get the cub, is that bad?
absolutely
not ideal
you pulling Vergil?
no
why is cub so important?
im skipping dmc unless i get lucky on this cursed acc
i mean, it is a cub
damage

night and day difference in damage
i mean its the same for all of them mostly
some here and there are minor increases
no way, i always pulled cubs for pulling capabilities, didnt knew they did that much dmg
nvm, just got 590k cradle with r1 nanami ss0 
well they provide the character they made for with more damage
Damage, Crowd Control
Snowveil's Active Skills deal 70% more DMG.
Increases the carrier's ATK by 100.
Each time Snowveil casts an Active Skill, the carrier's Extra DMG Bonus will increase by 5% for 8s. Triggering this effect again will renew its duration.
Increases the carrier's Ice DMG by 10%.
When Wanshi: Lucid Dreamer enters Calibration Mode with Snowveil equipped, Snowveil will be summoned to assist in attacks, dealing 250% Ice DMG 10 times. Base DMG of Superlink Flight increases by 60%; if Maim has maximum stacks when Superlink Flight is cast, its Base DMG increases by a further 90%. Base DMG of Destructive Wave increases by 75%; if 30 Correction Projectiles are consumed when Destructive Wave is cast, its Base DMG increases by a further 175%.
its lowkey a struggle when ur lightning amp is sigless
40% atk from selena cub and ish cub
Is cub really that important for f2p?
see like wanshis is pretty insane
Sometimes, get the important cubs with tickets from norman
u will notice a change immediately with that fox xd
Oh wait i forgot about that.
cubs are important but i dont think youre gonna have sufficient bc to pull for. So, youre gon have to wait for almost 2 weeks just to get cub tix
is there any cub from before pyroath worth getting?
Hold on lemme pull
if u want to try be competitive, yes, if u dont care then no
nanami cub
Is there dmc info in bot?
the cubs are mainly to play for leaderboards, the current content doesnt need pets to clear tho it will make it way easier
Main DPS Set
Main DPS
High Difficulty, Pain Cage, Warzone, Clash Reflection, Norman
Recommended for all ranks
General DPS set
This unit has not been released on Global yet. Please take these builds with a grain of salt as they are subject to change.
4x Patton
2x Cottie
Top Slot : 6x Any ATK+15 Variant
Bottom Slot: 6x Signature
Cottie
^^
well faster ig
Woag
why tf is his name spardas virgin
Is it like qte tho?
although, i still do think cubs are important cuz theyre significant damage increases 
mainly passive buffs
no it gives dmg buff to characters core ability generally and some elemental dmg bonus
because hes vergil, get it? ❤️🩹 ✌️
Damage, Crowd Control
Corvus' Active Skills deal 70% more DMG.
Increases the carrier's ATK by 100.
Each time Corvus casts an Active Skill, the carrier's Extra DMG Bonus increases by 5% for 8s. Duration resets every time the effect is triggered.
Increases the carrier's Fire DMG by 10%; Lightning DMG during Electric Storm Flash status increases by 10%.
When Lucia: Pyroath casts Basic Attack - Aura Blast with Corvus equipped, she will summon Corvus to launch a joint attack, dealing 2500% Fire DMG once. Aura Marks will further amplify the Base DMG Boost of Signature - Crowd Slash and Signature -Eclipse Daybreak by 20%.
u can equip 2 skills on the pet and usually u select skill 4 and 5
Is the colab gonna be using cub card or some special events card
bc
Snazz, do you know why ba reso is so important on pyro? Ive just been using atk and ult
unfortunately
its not
its not
i use atk also
you all are here for DMC collab..you don't really care about PGR
that was early pyro days thing
So i can spend my cub card in norman rn?

But isnt pyroath big chunk of dmg the basic attaks whilke flying?
sure u cant spend it on dmc anyways
ye but her ult is also a lot
i mean, in plasma i would understand the atk, but in fire isnt basic beter?
Wait even cubs arent going to use norman tickets????
and her red orbs chip a decent amount also
ba reso only better in fire where she does 1 ult rot

with vera main dps
weapons too
all bc only
What cub should i get with this?(I know it's bricked, shut up)
nanami
nanami
I guess theres a reason
But im not a theorycrafter
simply because nanami, thats why xd
What her cub do?
who should i choose on the target s rank research?
We could call it in the end cuz she is the chosen one
If pyro and vera play in the same team, Why modtr ppl play solo vera?
Fun
dead chat
U r deader
Finally chill
Vera higher dmg at lower invests
Pyro feels so much stronger in plasma, it’s rly like she was made for that affix
More than the other recent characters have been
Are there other recent plasma characters?
Plasma ded since lilith
Yeah Lilith
Daren still around in dark so 
hii! is there a tier list of some sort or a guide for who to build? 
i know stuff like that doesnt really matter in pgr but im genuinely lost on who to build or get 😞
Here.
You need almost everyone here for meta


