📨・meta-help

[gusty shale]

how much do u spend on each SSS?

[quiet lily]

Umm before sync its like 100$ then add some for bp

Now its freaking $200 every patch

Fk i hate sync

[gusty shale]

WELL DAMN

200 every patch

i mean tbh its not a lot

thats not even a guaranteed in wuwa now i understand why xeno doesent wanna play wuwa

i mean not like he havent spend like 20k on pgr already

[quiet lily]

Ye i mean for wuwa, theres 0 competition so its whatever. I just s0 every char and still manage to get sss on whimpering

[gusty shale]

yep

and we almost get enough astrite to guarantee 2 5 stars almost every patch so

this patch is the one of the lowest yet and we are still getting like 80-90 wishes

[river nymph]

ok wuwa chat pack it up

[gusty shale]

DOWNLOAD WUWAAAAAAAAAAAA

[spiral merlin]

i still get excited for some new wuwa character drops then i play the game for 10 minutes and drop it again

[gusty shale]

why tho lol

[spiral merlin]

im not engaged

building characters is ass

[gusty shale]

how

[noble zinc]

Mee too

[crystal basin]

I got s3 carte and didnt play the game since that banner

[gusty shale]

s3 carte is so op

[crystal basin]

yea shes strong now im getting augusta. time to come back

[spiral merlin]

time consuming resource intensive all that

also refighting the same boss over and over and over gets stale

i could not believe they had a 2 minute respawn timer

glad thats gone but it still leaves a sour taste

echo farming

need i say more

[gusty shale]

idk in my opinion i like building wuwa characters

[silk otter]

Is it normal to get destroyed in abyssal mountain mine as a 2 months player?

[gusty shale]

im not a fan of augusta but luno looks so good

[gusty shale]

yes

[crystal basin]

her animations look cool too

[gusty shale]

yessir but im loyal to chisa im saving everything after cantarella

[spiral merlin]

augusta is changli 2 and iuno is luna 2

[silk otter]

It is that tuff

[gusty shale]

augusta and chanlgi has nothing incommon yall are delulu

smh i cant write its too early for ts

[quiet lily]

yes, but if its just 1 stage left, maybe u can borrow unit from others(if u havent borrowed any yet)

[silk otter]

Augusta is cooler

[spiral merlin]

more like how can u not see the similarities

augusta is cooler i do agree there

[crystal basin]

zani and augusta are just must have for me. I like main dps the most tbh

[silk otter]

Nah it just felt impossible tbh

[quiet lily]

u used the batteries thing too?

[silk otter]

I'll just have to grind all the bc I could get to use on the anni banner and improve my teams

[silk otter]

Yeah 150 each

[mighty tusk]

damn, higher waves dont give a lot of score increase💀

[odd roost]

When was the special program again?

[quiet lily]

earlier this morning

[silk otter]

It happened

[quiet lily]

wait i forgor timezone is a thing

[quiet lily]

time to juice up the old hag

[mighty tusk]

but selena has been doing decent dmg with her blue after getting s+

bears kept tanking it before

[quiet lily]

oh ye fk the bears

huge gain for s+?

[mighty tusk]

best results is with sss hanying

that damn shred should make it easier

might as well use this on nanami

why.......

[gusty shale]

oh thats sad

[quiet lily]

[odd roost]

Bro lost a non existing 50/50 kekw

[quiet lily]

wait thats early? or what

[mighty tusk]

early

[quiet lily]

ahh no wonder

free is free then

[mighty tusk]

18 pity

[chilly trail]

I got cw there, now ss6 sigless

[odd roost]

Wish we could scrap character shards even if we don't have SSS+.

[mighty tusk]

same

[odd roost]

I'll even take a 10 = 1 shard

[quiet lily]

thats gonna be abused as fak if they allow that

[mighty tusk]

this thing is gonna be untouched until I got a random selena dupe

[odd roost]

I have so many S rank shards of character I'll never get.

[mighty tusk]

I heard the ratio here is bad

[chilly trail]

U s+ already?

[quiet lily]

its like 3:1 iirc

[mighty tusk]

#🌞・trophy-room message

[quiet lily]

i have it but never used it... yet

maybe crepescule later

bcs i might go broke for dmc

[mighty tusk]

you want to s+ her?

[forest knot]

It's 3:1 ye, mostly nice for converting BPs to dupes

[quiet lily]

nah just for 3s the usual

[odd roost]

To not let players abuse it will be 10 = 1 for non SSS+ characters.

[quiet lily]

can get another cw using selector later

[hazy sandal]

Help is this real

[gusty shale]

LMAO

[mighty tusk]

vera a shorty

[spiral merlin]

[hazy sandal]

Or—

[quiet lily]

[wintry parcel]

Do we know the amount of R&D Event Construct tickets that are obtainable from alternative interpretation modes?

[mighty tusk]

more than a 10-pull

[quiet lily]

i think we have those recorded on bc planner

[vale raft]

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[wintry parcel]

Let me see

[quiet lily]

ye we have it

3.5k for each gamemode

[wintry parcel]

Which section is it?

[quiet lily]

one time bc

[wintry parcel]

I see

That's a decent amount

I just need to be committed to it

D:

[wintry parcel]

Thanks by the way

[quiet lily]

ikr

i need to do tundra too

but no motivation

[wintry parcel]

I haven't started on any of those gamemodes

[quiet lily]

ohhh youre cooked brotha

[wintry parcel]

It's going to take sometimes

[quiet lily]

have fun, ye just take ur time

[gusty shale]

its gonna take years

[quiet lily]

u aint gonna use the tix for next patch anyways, unless u going for the anniv banner

[gusty shale]

aw man

[quiet lily]

3 more

[formal radish]

I might still update ib though

[true pivot]

chat i need someone to review my run

[formal radish]

Even while struggling in my crutches, I will still keep you from uncertainty's clutches

[fading kestrel]

go to office for that

[true pivot]

b-but

its meta here

[quiet lily]

u running jetavie again yomm?

[true pivot]

no lol

fire wz

[quiet lily]

u know who to ask for that

[frank kindle]

[zenith thorn]

wtf vera is short

[true pivot]

[zenith thorn]

i thought she's 180 isj

with how tall her geira frame looks

[quiet lily]

the firegod himself rydle

[true pivot]

rydle became whel and has all 3s

[zenith thorn]

tho ig her rozen frame does look short

[mighty tusk]

heels

[quiet lily]

i mean, he did have 2.3 fire on his jp

[true pivot]

true

[zenith thorn]

what heels adds +15cm

[frank kindle]

1h of ur time

[zenith thorn]

give me those heels too

[mighty tusk]

you'd be surprised

[quiet lily]

im too lazy can u send the run again?

[true pivot]

crossdressing?

[quiet lily]

also 1hr in pgr

[zenith thorn]

no

[true pivot]

anyways more people more braincells to think

pls
https://youtu.be/lSCTnkaoygk?t=1m50s

[zenith thorn]

what's braincells

[fading kestrel]

https://tenor.com/view/asgore-knight-gif-10095168295952009600

[frank kindle]

#📨・meta-help message

[quiet lily]

thanks babe

[formal radish]

I'm on 37% battery

I have to entertain myself until I get home

[true pivot]

need run review from lots of people

am skill issuing

[zenith thorn]

37 is alot

just enable power saving mode

[formal radish]

I am

[zenith thorn]

should be 2h

[true pivot]

37 depends on the context

[formal radish]

Kills

[true pivot]

37 guys? yes
37 on an old phone? no

[formal radish]

Vs dollars to your name

Well

[zenith thorn]

u can take 37 guys surely

[true pivot]

[fading kestrel]

now that dps vera is so popular
is her cub an actual good pickup now

over lingya

[quiet lily]

yes u aint dpsing without cub ig

[wintry parcel]

I heard that if you have any other fire element S rank cub, you can use that on Geiravor just fine

[gusty shale]

F THIS HOE

5K LIKE ARE U FR

[wintry parcel]

Dude

That's Outlier isn't it

Just try again

[gusty shale]

i cant i have tried everything

[formal radish]

What team are you using

[quiet lily]

just bitchslap her with lilick

shes weak to dark

bbdb ult yryr ult

[gusty shale]

well lets not talk about that

[formal radish]

Smh

[gusty shale]

yh but my lilith isnt doing enough dmg

[wintry parcel]

Maybe you played her wrong

[quiet lily]

how come

[gusty shale]

im using ishmael and luna LMAO maybe thats why

[wintry parcel]

Daemonissa rotation seems simple, but extending her rotation for multiple signature moves is unnecessarily complicated

I still haven't learned it properly

Still lacking energy most of the time

[quiet lily]

can send ur huaxu so that we can suggest what u should do?

[gusty shale]

oh well i will just wait for the dorm commision to end

[gusty shale]

https://huaxu.app/eu/players/26051032/characters

[wintry parcel]

Oh wait

What are the Warzone stages for this week's cycle again?

[quiet lily]

u high ah

[quiet lily]

fire phys/ts dark

[wintry parcel]

Oh

So we do have Dark Zone right now

[gusty shale]

what am i supposed to use? i was to lazy to get ther signature moves

[wintry parcel]

I should learn how to play Daemonissa

[gusty shale]

maybe one day

[quiet lily]

signature is not the problem

[formal radish]

8pc daemonissa trust

[gusty shale]

oh than what is

[crystal rune]

new meta

[quiet lily]

u need to use 4p barcelo 2p cottie at least

[zenith thorn]

YOOO

[formal radish]

Why are you using 6pc barcelo LMAOOO

[zenith thorn]

NEW META 8PC BARCELO

[formal radish]

Waut stip don't make me laugh my legs might cramp

[quiet lily]

use the bot for the build guide

[formal radish]

Yamero plesse

[gusty shale]

BC OF THE INGAME REC EQUIPMENT

[quiet lily]

95% of the build is correct

dont faking trust ingame recommendation

[zenith thorn]

ingame rec doesn't even rec 6pc barcelo

[formal radish]

Ingame rec says 4barcelo 2guin lol

[gusty shale]

alr

[quiet lily]

the house always lose

[gusty shale]

oh yea ur right

[formal radish]

That's why you should bet your hous when gambling

[gusty shale]

maybe i was too lazy to get 2 guin oh well

we will never know

[zenith thorn]

anyhow just use the bot
/build frame:

[quiet lily]

so ye change the 5th and 6th barcelo to cottie

[gusty shale]

oki ty

[vale raft]

This character does not exist. Please try again.
You may be searching for a character with multiple frames as well.

[formal radish]

Smh

[quiet lily]

then change ur weapon reso to dlt

fully reso the memo, like 12 reso without minmaxing, can just random reso

[zenith thorn]

why that getting an error

capital D?

[quiet lily]

then do this

blue blue dodge blue ult
yellow red yellow red ult

[wintry parcel]

Typing frame twice

[zenith thorn]

oh

stupid ai

bench this ai please

[wintry parcel]

True

[true pivot]

bricked

[wintry parcel]

Is there any guide on how to play Daemonissa properly in a Dark element team?

[quiet lily]

i learn from yomm's vid

[true pivot]

watch naru or 2b idk

[quiet lily]

[true pivot]

[fading kestrel]

okay.

[quiet lily]

fak whale bij lucky ass mf

why i never get this kind of pull

[true pivot]

cb fk whel

[crystal rune]

[fading kestrel]

what do i even do with so many CUB dupes LMFAO
is it reallyx my best option to fuse em all together or

[crystal rune]

donate to your local charity

[quiet lily]

ye just go get the ss

more dmg

[zenith thorn]

ss cub

[worthy spindle]

should i unlock my 2nd res on veras weapon or get my first resonance on lucias weapon

[young badge]

lucia

[sand sage]

what elements in ib rn?

[fading kestrel]

phys ice nihil

[bold ferry]

What's the best team in clash reflection rn
And could someone tell me the best energy field buffs for every team in norman

[true pivot]

i take donations

[fading kestrel]

there is no best team. all of them work
there is no best energy field either. so long as its not Turbulence, they all work

[bold ferry]

Alright ty

[simple dew]

any meta team can clear it easily

copium teams might take a bit more effort on later floors

[simple dew]

whel

[sand sage]

whats boss?

[quiet lily]

cradle

[sand sage]

okii ty

[hoary dagger]

haxxlao

[sand sage]

no,u hax

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/1258799110518214699/1389967788491149454/togif.gif

[ashen parcel]

So I have a quetion

Other than more slots do cubs get anything special at SS or SSS?

[mighty tusk]

sss cub gets a sticker

[zenith thorn]

so huge

why would you even do that

i mean like yeah sure
it's cr it's easy

but why would you even have element clash

[slender sandal]

https://youtu.be/ISQTXanp7mQ

[quiet lily]

fk whel

[mighty tusk]

[nova forum]

Whel

[quiet lily]

usual patton selena?

[mighty tusk]

6 blue 6 atk

[quiet lily]

please dont say its glaco

[mighty tusk]

patton selena yea

[quiet lily]

ahh ye alright, overkill?

[nova forum]

[mighty tusk]

not sure remember I have ss3 hanying

[zenith thorn]

whel

[quiet lily]

ye thats why i ask

[mighty tusk]

and just needed qte selena to finish

[quiet lily]

oh

how to ult hanying fast

[mighty tusk]

2 yellow

[quiet lily]

yyg alright

[steady otter]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/936178936684109835/1390375023180644492/Proyek_Baru_68_0B907A6.gif

[quiet lily]

[steady otter]

fcking hitlag dumbass

who create this boss will going to hell

[hoary dagger]

go easy on me on wz bro

[steady otter]

oh, we have samme bracket ?

[quiet lily]

fk him espada

[distant wren]

Fk whel

[quiet lily]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/1108627547287199754/1328626449250259014/4x.gif

[hoary dagger]

yeah and naru is there too lmao

time to fk him

[quiet lily]

yes fk everyone

[steady otter]

@cerulean sky pakyu

im going to hero for sure

[cerulean sky]

what did I do

[steady otter]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/867995160854806588/1346215870904664255/image0.gif

[true pivot]

[quiet lily]

come meet me in hero

hero feast

[steady otter]

otw bro

[quiet lily]

[cerulean sky]

we both are going back to hero bro

[nova forum]

just kiss already

[cerulean sky]

you think I last at end of the week

burstlaugh

i'm slacking

......

[nova forum]

[steady otter]

[true pivot]

doing that to pulao?

[nova forum]

[visual topaz]

[cerulean sky]

wrong chat.....

mods are already here

[steady otter]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/867995160854806588/1346215870904664255/image0.gif

[steady otter]

sorry babe
you can step on me for punishment

[visual topaz]

No thanks

[steady otter]

https://media.discordapp.net/attachments/843719318391095307/1055505373701881856/sad.gif

nyoooooooooooo

[visual topaz]

There are only bears in dark zone

[deft apex]

There is no bear in Ba Sing Se

[nova forum]

has the global beta started yet

[drifting dragon]

is there a tier list for the cubs?

[nova forum]

imma need to ask sum

[zenith thorn]

dps's cubs are priorities to get

ie selena,lucia,startrail

[last blade]

what about wanshi

[zenith thorn]

can too

but i would prio selena due to her being newer

totally not cuz she's my wife too

[drifting dragon]

for the dmc collab we cnnot use the cub gacha ticket?

[zenith thorn]

dunno

never cared about dmc

u should be able to use normal cub ticks

[wintry parcel]

You can't

It's an entirely new banner

[zenith thorn]

funny kuro

lmaocry

collab ticks?

[mighty tusk]

why? ofc they're money hungry from that sweet dmc

[ashen edge]

seperate tix type ye

[deft apex]

||no beta||

[ashen edge]

force you to use bc to convert it

and there are 0 pack about pet tix so good luck

[quiet lily]

time to pull sss selena cub

[zenith thorn]

good

[quiet lily]

u want borrow the cub?

[nova forum]

all i care is the 7 days 24rc pack

fck i want that pack to be present next patch

[mighty tusk]

nah, it's in bianca's patch

[quiet lily]

ye rip next patch pack are 90% collab tix

buy pack then keep it til expired

[spiral merlin]

this is so devious when anniv banner is is on the same patch

[quiet lily]

oh sht thats true, meaning no yellow tix

[spiral merlin]

collab tix only from events too

[quiet lily]

[spiral merlin]

w this is so player friendly

[mighty tusk]

you know people might get baited to getting ss3 hanying "because vergil needs it"

then bianca patch comes after

[ashen edge]

it will be back again at bianca patch

but ye next patch pack are dogsht

[nova forum]

imma crash out

[ashen edge]

and those arent enough you have to convert some bc

[quiet lily]

[nova forum]

is there any pack with at least 1 rc = 80 bc

[spiral merlin]

lol

[ashen edge]

no

[nova forum]

[chilly trail]

Ban glacio

[ebon adder]

can i just choose not to pull vergil

[quiet lily]

yes

[ebon adder]

i dont have hanying ss3 nor alisa sss

[quiet lily]

u can save currency for hot single nun next next patch

[ebon adder]

bianca the goat

what about dante? is he a better invest than vergil

[quiet lily]

can ignore both honestly

burn and ts pretty much dodgeable and if needed to choose between two, can choose burn and roll with nanami

[noble zinc]

Tix it gets converted after patch ends or expire?

[quiet lily]

yes

[ebon adder]

can nanami build burn stacks fast enough?

[quiet lily]

converted

[noble zinc]

[quiet lily]

ye, shes pretty decent to run for burn, at least not as cope as u using stigmata for ts

[ebon adder]

so in a way vergil is more needed than dante for affix content right due to the nature of balter

[quiet lily]

kinda ye

personally im going for vergil due to that too, ill just ignore dante

[ebon adder]

and yet we get dante free and not vergil💔

[noble zinc]

FK -23kbc

[quiet lily]

ofc its always like that

[ebon adder]

is hanyings ss3 like needed for ts

[quiet lily]

u have 900kbc what are u worrying abt

[hoary dagger]

u whale have 100k bc

[quiet lily]

this mf hoarding for eos

[noble zinc]

Wpn reso chr brick if not R3

[quiet lily]

u need cub too

[noble zinc]

SSSmin

[fervent oxide]

geravoir SS3 worth?

[wintry parcel]

Not the best one overall

But a good upgrade still

[fervent oxide]

i see

[mighty tusk]

not as needed, but still a good boost

[quiet lily]

fak whel

[amber flume]

Metawise should I pull for selena and have dante and vergil at SS3 with sig n cub?

https://huaxu.app/ap/players/14530914/characters

[young badge]

pull selena skip dmc

[amber flume]

I have a feeling u aint joking

[amber flume]

fr?

[young badge]

selena ia meta

[quiet lily]

metawise? pull all sss

[amber flume]

Filthy rich

[noble zinc]

fk whel

[quiet lily]

ok i rephrase, dmc only worth if u sss them

[pine flare]

does every frame need weapon resonance?

[azure barn]

Most of them but not everyone

Some can survive at R0, and some can even survive without their Sigs (altho they'd still want it just for Harmo)

[pine flare]

usb feels really really slow to get since the only source (that i know of ) is norman which resets only twice a month and clearing a norman aint even half of how many weap resonance shards u need

[pine flare]

do we have a list of who to prioritize for sigs and R1

[azure barn]

That highly depends on ur current lineup tho

But for future reference, Crepuscule (new Bianca) only needs her Sig, no resos required

[pine flare]

oh thats great info

[azure barn]

Nanaknight and Lucid can even go as far as going Sigless and still being playable

[azure barn]

Geiravor too

[wintry parcel]

I have one if you're interested

[pine flare]

oki

[pine flare]

hasnt that changed since she's main dps now though? i heard the sig doubles her damage straight up

[wintry parcel]

#📨・meta-help message

[wintry parcel]

Geiravor priority has been updated yes

[azure barn]

She can still be played using DV set if no Sig

[wintry parcel]

But also this

[azure barn]

But yeah since she's main now

[pine flare]

is this in order purposely?

[summer thicket]

i have geiravor, do i NEED to get a second copy of her? or pull for piannisimo?

[azure barn]

Nanaknight is also in the same situation (she can be played without Sig, but she still wants R1 just for Solo gameplay)

[wintry parcel]

What do you mean by that?

[azure barn]

It's her most optimal playstyle at low invest because Weave isn't usable below SSS

[mighty tusk]

you dont have pianissimo yet?

[summer thicket]

i dont

[pine flare]

nvm i see what u guys mean now when you say it depends on my lineup. thanks this is great reference

[summer thicket]

i pulled for geraivor for dmc...

[mighty tusk]

lol get her, she's the meta physical attacker and glaciation

[summer thicket]

do i need multiple copies for pianissimo and her sig?

[azure barn]

Just SS0 + R1 is fine

[summer thicket]

what about geiravor

since i did get her

[pine flare]

is this chart based on warzone weather?

[azure barn]

I think she doesn't go main dps playstyle there so she can go without Sig in Dante comp

[mighty tusk]

you get ss via ppc

[azure barn]

You'd still want her Sig for buff resos tho

[summer thicket]

i have pyroath lol

[azure barn]

Yeah meta teams for each element and affix

[mighty tusk]

if sss dante is comparable to ss pyroath in fire, does that mean vera is still main dps in fire

[quiet lily]

yes ig

[summer thicket]

this is how much i have for pianissimo...

[quiet lily]

pyro/dante is just a filler

[steady otter]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/867995160854806588/1346215870904664255/image0.gif

[summer thicket]

should i go for piannissimo then

i probably should then

[mighty tusk]

you'll need her for both glaciation and physical

[summer thicket]

ME TRYING TO SAVE FOR DMC

[azure barn]

You're losing out if you skip her

Arguably the best F2P Team is Glacial and she's the main dps there

[summer thicket]

how much am i losing

[mighty tusk]

at most you're likely getting ss vergil with sig, and that is still cope compared to same invest as selena in physical

[azure barn]

You basically lose an entire team without Pianissimo

[summer thicket]

and y'all say i also need to get her sig right?

[mighty tusk]

it's permanent anyway

[azure barn]

PGR places a lot of importance on coverage so

You'd want everything you can get

[summer thicket]

i think thats gonna be all my black cards i have rn

[robust dust]

cope bianca I guess

[glossy forge]

Nihil, my beloved

[glossy forge]

omg dalao showed up

[peak halo]

Purple hp my beloved

[azure barn]

Not just Phys, Glacial literally wouldn't exist without her

[peak halo]

2 ish ult to break that
At least on huaxu

[zenith thorn]

there's people that enjoy void on onslaught?

who are you

[glossy forge]

i have to like 5 rotations to remove huaxu void bar

[peak halo]

Me

[warm stirrup]

?

[quiet lily]

fk void ib

[warm stirrup]

are these affix viable or elemental only

[quiet lily]

thats elemental but u can try off element affixes

[warm stirrup]

would my scores higher ?

[quiet lily]

but i think youre gonna get lower

[warm stirrup]

if i use affix

[forest knot]

Cradle is squishy enough that you can try if you have higher investment affix teams

[quiet lily]

or at least the same

[forest knot]

if you don't kill within 1 swap tho you might be scoring lower

[warm stirrup]

i saw every top ranks use affixes

[glossy forge]

considering you need both physical and ice

glaciation team is kinda out unless you have giga invest pyroath

[forest knot]

since Ion/Glacio needs 12s/15s to swap back to your DPS

[quiet lily]

which stage?

[glossy forge]

yes, top ranks will just Plasma/ Glaciation

[warm stirrup]

oh yeah they are the best team i forgor

[quiet lily]

plasma 333 is slower than 3s ish solo apparently

[glossy forge]

cuz fire pyroath and physical pianisimo are trash compared to plasma pyroath and glaciation pianisimo

[warm stirrup]

i kinda agree

[glossy forge]

its not an opinion

just facts

[azure barn]

Affix PPC sucks balls tho

[quiet lily]

sucks bcs need to build stack and activate first

after activate then u overkill the boss

[azure barn]

Exactly bruh

[quiet lily]

like whats the point

[azure barn]

No matter how strong an Affix team is, their fastest time will still be above 10 seconds 💀

[glossy forge]

thats why they invent IB

[azure barn]

Affix should've been IB only

They're literally not designed for PPC

[quiet lily]

at least burn is good, but thats just bcs nanami

the fast activation

[azure barn]

Not every enabler is as strong as her unfortunately yeah

[quiet lily]

the rest kinda cooked

[azure barn]

Ion Lilith only being able to deal 2 HP bars on the boss

[glossy forge]

btw, when did they make the change that even if you press a 3 ping with matrix orb, it only pings one orb?

i swear it wasnt there that long ago

[quiet lily]

luna i think

[azure barn]

It's been here since Oblivion

[zenith thorn]

luna

[azure barn]

They also gave the same property on Weave

(via Leap)

[glossy forge]

its only there for newer units?

[quiet lily]

but s+ lilith with barcelo can kill ult2 knight veronica

[zenith thorn]

no more 6ping

[azure barn]

Pretty much

[zenith thorn]

unholy 6ping in my ppc run

[azure barn]

S+

How fast is that tho

[summer thicket]

how does this team work

[quiet lily]

s+ lilick is doable

10s iirc

[azure barn]

Wow

[quiet lily]

yep, it doesnt work

[glossy forge]

work is an overstatement

weave has like 1 move... thats it

[quiet lily]

but ye still sht time too

[mighty tusk]

no content for darkflow in 2025

[azure barn]

Geiravor stacks up Darkflow, Weave consumes them, Epitaph for Darkflow Shred

[zenith thorn]

geira fill umbra stack
weave do damage
uncle sustain and sub dps

\on paper

[azure barn]

But that team has literally 0 usage rn

[fringe nimbus]

Is this BP amount good for SSS rank characters

[quiet lily]

dankflow

[zenith thorn]

in reality it's better to run daren,uncle and geira

[azure barn]

Beta didn't even mention Darkflow WZ

[zenith thorn]

wtf still no umbra wz?

[quiet lily]

yoo is this the new char

[zenith thorn]

are they stupid?

[glossy forge]

why didnt they give leap to Qu and give her darkflow instead

[quiet lily]

nope

[fringe nimbus]

😭

[mighty tusk]

BP hardly matters anyway, and I'm concerned why you have an invest capriccio

[zenith thorn]

wow they are stupid

[zenith thorn]

why do you have sss+ cappy

[mighty tusk]

*pianissimo

[glossy forge]

BP doesnt matter

[fringe nimbus]

Because I love selena and I've been using her since I started the game

[zenith thorn]

wow whale

[quiet lily]

sir its s+ piniasiimo

[zenith thorn]

its pwo

[mighty tusk]

eh....it's fine

[zenith thorn]

he s+ every selena frame anyway

[fringe nimbus]

😢

[quiet lily]

bros banking for the coating

[mighty tusk]

skipping dmc ftw

[zenith thorn]

skip geira and kiwi

[fringe nimbus]

Why not just get both 💔

[mighty tusk]

bp looks fine. Just dont expect good results

[mighty tusk]

bianca is after that btw

[zenith thorn]

dmc PepeDisgust

[fringe nimbus]

I hate how they're replacing lamia too soon

I'm still staying loyal to lamia 😭

Also getting 3 of them will work too

[azure barn]

Cuz they're gonna give Scire her 4th paid skin truuuuuust me

[fringe nimbus]

Just pray for good luck

[fringe nimbus]

Why does scire keep getting skins

[zenith thorn]

favourite child

[azure barn]

Bro is getting that Rosetta treatment frfr

[glossy forge]

Uncle released and his dmg became old in few months for us global players that they had to leap him

[quiet lily]

lamia got a special place in my account

[mighty tusk]

kevin however....

[summer thicket]

well i gave up all my black cards and pitied pianissimo

[fringe nimbus]

Real

[azure barn]

I'm sorry man I hate playing Lamia 😔

[quiet lily]

bro already got his eyes on discord

oh ye lamia is quite janky thats true

[azure barn]

I can empathize with her backstory tho cuz holy

[quiet lily]

someimtes her blue blue red ult just so stupid it have this hidden delay

[mighty tusk]

lamia got clunky later down the line

[glossy forge]

randomly getting hit in the air

[zenith thorn]

wtf kev is unloyal

[azure barn]

Bro got dealt the worst cards in every single scenario

[zenith thorn]

lmaocry

[azure barn]

Iirc the joystick has something to do with it

But it's so inconsistent that I still dunno what the technique actually is

[mighty tusk]

#1380116071939313664 message

[quiet lily]

for fast ult1 after core ye u hold joystick forward, its after that when u wanna do ult2, blue blue red ult used to be so smooth, now idk theres like a hidden input wall which adds a delay for u to ult2

[zenith thorn]

it's planned obsolence

[azure barn]

For some reason I also get delays when doing Blue > Blue when I didn't touch the joystick

[zenith thorn]

kuro knew

it was a sign

that's why there's bianca

[azure barn]

It's literally Blue + Blue and I still got delays like wtf

[quiet lily]

its so stupid

how tf are the released and finished character gets affected by all this

[glossy forge]

idk, blue+blue+blue is very smooth tho

🤔

[azure barn]

Blue 3x is very fast but there's also a fatal weakness to it

There are times where YOU WON'T EVEN GET THE WHITE ORB FROM DOING BLUE

It's so stupid man

Some of my runs literally died just because I didn't get a white orb after pinging Blue

[zenith thorn]

there are times where u dupe nonexistent orbs in her base form bro

to get free orbs LMAO

it's so funny

[azure barn]

Oh yeah that happened to me multiple times in PPC

And it's more effective when your phone is dogsht 💀

[zenith thorn]

legit just need to be fast spamming

[zenith thorn]

YEP

20 fps 🥀 💔

[azure barn]

[zenith thorn]

https://youtu.be/dFAgMzqGlz4?t=55

[glossy forge]

damn, i never noticed

[zenith thorn]

honestly one of my favs run
could 20s

but too lazy

[azure barn]

To be fair it doesn't happen much now, but it can literally end WZ runs when Lilith didn't exist yet

[zenith thorn]

i dont recall that happening to me

but tbf i did take a break from uncle patch to oblivion to focus on my exam

so i only malded lamia for 3 month

[azure barn]

It's cuz there's a delay between pinging Blue and getting the white orb

[silk otter]

About Norman, I got a lot of the crystal currency but idk what are the structural booster parts, Can someone explain more?

[azure barn]

Do Blue + Blue + White too fast and you might only get Phase 1 White

[azure barn]

It's the shards for your existing CUBs

You usually farm enough of those ores to get dupes of your CUBs to get them rank-ups without pulling

[silk otter]

So it's the same as ppc skulls but for cubs

[azure barn]

Pretty much yeah

[silk otter]

Okay, Thanks mate

[pine slate]

U can use those to get new cubs tho but it costs a lot

Basically u buy existing cubs, recycle 3 of them and buy new one

[azure barn]

Damn that's like a couple of months

[stoic niche]

For who should I get cub now?

[wintry parcel]

Lucid Dreamer cub is very good to have

[frank kindle]

Wanshi then ish

[stoic niche]

I don't have qu tho

[frank kindle]

Oh wait u got ish

[azure barn]

Even more reason to get his CUB then

[wintry parcel]

What is that to do with Lucid Dreamer cub?

[stoic niche]

Ice is bad without her

[wintry parcel]

Well I guess

[azure barn]

The ever-elusive Solo Lucid playstyle:

[wintry parcel]

But with giving Lucid Dreamer his signature cub, you would make the Ice element feels less bad

Which is the whole purpose of Cub

It's nothing but an additional boost

[stoic niche]

I don't have his sig

[wintry parcel]

That's fine

Getting a Cub doesn't affect anything if your character has their signature weapon or not

Unless you're going to pull both Signature weapon and Cub using the same Black cards fund

[obsidian dune]

everytime i come here yall are online

[wintry parcel]

Then you would put besides Cub in that case

[stoic niche]

Should I just save for biancas cub then?

[obsidian dune]

imo with no sig no cub no qu theres no point in investing wanshi

like the score increase would be minimal

u can just continue to rank him up to use in zaza comps

[stoic niche]

I can sss him but idk if I should

[obsidian dune]

u got both wanshi and lilith ss3?

[stoic niche]

Yeah

[obsidian dune]

tbh i would 3s lilith first in your case

[wintry parcel]

You can

But you also have the entire DMC collaboration version to save up for the new Bianca Cub either through Norman revival cub tickets pull or somewhere else

[mighty dock]

this isnt normal is it

[stoic niche]

I can get it from here but it would be a waste

[pine slate]

what did u guys get in fire wz

high ss players

[feral pollen]

depression

[wintry parcel]

Why would it be a waste?

[stoic niche]

9mil currency just to get a cub

[pine slate]

not like u can use that anywhere else

[feral pollen]

bro is saving up for pgr2

[zenith thorn]

0

[pine slate]

k whel

[zenith thorn]

ybredangry

[wintry parcel]

I mean 9 million ores are definitely easier to get them getting 5000 black cards from the scratch

[zenith thorn]

f2p only

[wintry parcel]

And yeah, you don't have any other place to use the currency besides getting cub rank up

[solar sail]

whats memory skill do i get on cw again? Atk+ and Signature or Basic Attack?

[zenith thorn]

basic atk
15 atk

dont even think about sig reso if you arent sss0

[solar sail]

ok thanks Ice

[crimson garden]

Does Selena ever use Cottie if she has harmo

[wintry parcel]

Pianissimo?

[crimson garden]

Yea

[pine slate]

in phys

[wintry parcel]

Cottie is the main build for Pianissimo in Physical warzone

You can swap between Cottie and Patton for Phantom Pain Cage

But I've heard that Cottie is also viable for Glacio in a specific cases

[azure barn]

iirc you use both in PPC, Burana has 0 uses in PPC apparently

[wintry parcel]

For the details, i wouldn't really know

[azure barn]

especially at low ranks

most low rank runs I've seen used 4 Patton 4 Cottie or 2 Cottie 2 Darwin

[wintry parcel]

Hmm

[azure barn]

😭 I hate it

[wintry parcel]

That's such a Phantom Pain Cage thing

Actual Pain

[azure barn]

real bro

[pine flare]

is lilith still going to use 4 barcelo 2 cottie build when bianca comes out

[wintry parcel]

I don't know

[azure barn]

yeah, but harmo becomes Guin or Eins iirc

and her rotation is locked in 2 Ults

[crimson garden]

So for the build I'll ht which should I go first

[pine slate]

cottie

[frank kindle]

Anyone else noticed red orbs in new event looks like:

[crimson garden]

Burana?

[azure barn]

Pianissimo memo set

[frank kindle]

https://tenor.com/view/no-the-office-kevin-the-office-theoffice-gif-10428745286249371055

[tacit ember]

Do I need to complete all teams in each element?

Including effect based teams?

[vale raft]

Burana ★★★★★★

2pc Set Bonus

ATK increases by 5%. Physical DMG and Glaciation DMG increase by 5%.

4pc Set Bonus

Gains 2 Signal Orbs upon casting Rhythmic Piercing. Damage of Echoing Melody, Rhythmic Piercing, Signature -Majestic Interlude, and Signature - Note of Termination doubles.

ATK

132

CRIT

66

DEF

223

HP

1491

[azure barn]

ideally yeah

[crimson garden]

Whose memory is that.

[simple dew]

2x dmg on ult

[azure barn]

her ult dmg is low anyways cuz you usually don't get to do Flower Ult in PPC

way too slow

[crimson garden]

nevermind

[azure barn]

it's for Pianissimo

[crimson garden]

Klenova is like a general glaciation set? I just came back so

[forest knot]

Don't bother making a set for PPC unless you have a specific reference you can copy and it's a meaningful improvement, most of the time it's a waste of resources for newer accs

[mighty tusk]

ok, slowly getting used to s5 6* selena solo rotation

[zenith thorn]

why

[warped axle]

was dumping 750 BC worth it for snow waltz

[zenith thorn]

only 750

that's cheap

[vague nebula]

lucky mf

[warped axle]

snow waltz wasn't coming home

[vague nebula]

[warped axle]

ended up at 17 pity with free tickets

had to use 750

[vague nebula]

[warped axle]

not rlly lucky

[vague nebula]

not lucky mf

[warped axle]

hey, at least wanshi cub is home bois

3 months of farming ores

[tacit ember]

Are these things needed for endgames

[zenith thorn]

technically only ss 5* is needed

[warped axle]

lmao

[zenith thorn]

the only endgame in pgr is just ego malding warzone

[warped axle]

you must be poor to not afford sig weapons for at least one char

[zenith thorn]

cr is easy,ppc is easy

[warped axle]

well u need to mald very hard and invest for ib

only to end up with 88% percentile

[zenith thorn]

you shouldnt even bother with ib if ur ss0 r1
more so if 5*

[warped axle]

[zenith thorn]

just wantap and quit

[deft apex]

Im ppc player

[zenith thorn]

ppc dead already dear

[deft apex]

U ded too

[crimson garden]

Phys 4Burana 4Cottie
Ppc 4Patton 4Cottie
Glaciation 4Burana 4Klenova
Is this right

[zenith thorn]

i was too a ppc player

[stoic niche]

Do I get myself baited into getting nanamis ss3?

[warped axle]

glaciation can go with 4 Burana 2 cottie 2 klenova

[zenith thorn]

ppc just set depends

[zenith thorn]

eh 2cottie useless when she's 1 rot anyway

just do 4klev

[warped axle]

she can't use glorius afterglow if u don't have cottie

[radiant panther]

Dark zaza if any

[zenith thorn]

what are you talking about

[warped axle]

orb death

3p for ult is insane

heresy

her white orbs gonna be lacking too

[hoary dagger]

what does afterglow has to do with cottie tho

[pine slate]

?

what 3p for ult

[warped axle]

you would have to use DLT which is useless for glacio

[zenith thorn]

that has nothing to do with ga too

[warped axle]

3 3 ping

[pine slate]

wat

u only need 2

[warped axle]

with cottie yes

[pine slate]

with 4 klen

[forest knot]

Without Cottie you still only need 2

[pine slate]

[hoary dagger]

without cottie also 2x3ping

[zenith thorn]

lmaocry

[pine slate]

what u on bro

[zenith thorn]

plus dlt is always better than ga bro

LMAOO

[pine slate]

• GA buff is less than 4 klen buff

[warped axle]

in glacio?

[forest knot]

Either way 4 Klen is strong af, it's gonna be better than everything GA can muster up

[pine slate]

yes

[zenith thorn]

everywhere

ga is only used in quick ppc kill

[pine slate]

4 klen effect is much better than GA

[zenith thorn]

ga only provide flat 30% atk

[vale raft]

Klenova ★★★★★★

2pc Set Bonus

Ice DMG increases by 5%. Glaciation DMG increases by 10%.

4pc Set Bonus

When there are Ice Spikes, ATK increases by 5% and Glaciation DMG increases by 10%.

ATK

132

CRIT

66

DEF

223

HP

1491

[zenith thorn]

in which the 30% is based off the wapon and then added to your damage iirc

[pine slate]

30% final atk

Or 150 atk which is roughly like 8%?

[zenith thorn]

added directly to formula?

am i misremembering with incan

[pine slate]

It's not based on weapon

Final atk is based on 500 atk

So 30% means ur getting 150 atk only

[zenith thorn]

lmaocry

only 150 is still ass

[crimson garden]

does selena have must have reso?

I haven't resoes my Hanying. ♿

[zenith thorn]

weapon?
memory?

[hoary dagger]

just dlt for wz

[crimson garden]

weapon

[zenith thorn]

dlt

[crimson garden]

damn dlt literally minimum for everyone nowadays 🚮

[pine slate]

Ppl usually see the 30% and think GA is op failing to realize that it's only 150 atk, there's a reason amp resos are recommended over it

[warped axle]

its 3 orbs tho, not 2

[pine slate]

U didn't hold ba the 2nd time

[warped axle]

there are people who don't have resonated amps tho

[warped axle]

huh

😭

[pine slate]

3p, hold ba, 3p, hold ba

[warped axle]

either way dlt is unnecessary for glacio

[tacit ember]

Is the dmg difference (final output) really noticeable or can be ignored? (2 pc Kle, 2 pc cottie vs 4 pc Kle)

[mighty tusk]

this is new....

[stoic niche]

Is it ok that than by
time Vera's ult is ready Watanabes shred debuff is already gone?

[warped axle]

by the end of wz I would have 16 orbs in glacio lmao

[pine slate]

Well, 4 klen is necessary

[stoic niche]

At a start of a battle

[pine slate]

Idk dlt, I always have it on

[warped axle]

dlt only gives orbs, no attack buff

and you only have 1 rot for glacio

[pine slate]

I have GA + dlt

[warped axle]

🥀

[zenith thorn]

noticeable with a high degree

[warped axle]

ima go with 4 klen next time

💔

[crimson garden]

Is minmaxing memory position still a thing nowadays

[zenith thorn]

no

are you willing to do it

[crimson garden]

no

[warped axle]

allat for 2 flat atk

[wintry parcel]

Building a set adapting to the possible alternative set is easier and more preferred nowadays

[sly geyser]

bro haven't done the previous clash ?

[wintry parcel]

Also saved up Hypertune materials at some cases

[pine slate]

@forest knot u did fire wz?

[mighty tusk]

it's my smurf wym

[crimson garden]

I feel like I'm a newbie again because of glaciation or whatever they are

[sly geyser]

no u wym smurf ?

[forest knot]

I think without DLT and with Lingya Sel can just do 4 Patton dodge 6 orb dodge Ult and swap out

[sly geyser]

also why using selena

while nana is the star

[mighty tusk]

I'm using my smurf acc

[forest knot]

It's worse than DLT but it's better than blue orb shenanigans

If you don't wanna DLT

[sly geyser]

ah

[mighty tusk]

and I'm referring to the end screen

[wintry parcel]

These affix/effects content are unnecessarily complicated

[sly geyser]

what's wrong with it

[wintry parcel]

And pain in the ass

[sly geyser]

[mighty tusk]

you dont see her usual pose vs the one I sent?

[forest knot]

I can try tonight but I'm stuck in Hero lol, I don't think anyone in my bracket can even do 12M this week

It's too bedge

Nuke did 7.5M Fire so have fun malding

[sly geyser]

she wanted to innovate

[pine slate]

[pine slate]

He's 2.32.32?

[forest knot]

Ye

[pine slate]

[forest knot]

323

[pine slate]

Whel

[crimson garden]

And I'm still trying to grasp whatever the abomination that is called onslaught in ppc

[wintry parcel]

Onslaught

That's a quiet old name

[crimson garden]

that's what I remember before I left ♿

[peak halo]

Also do u think
I better to solo vera with
2.323 with wz
Than 233 ignition nanami swap with fire?

Hero btw

[forest knot]

Why am I confused by your investment

[wintry parcel]

I'm not sure who are the characters within those numbers

[forest knot]

Who's the 2.32, who's the 23

[peak halo]

Nowaday started kinda whaling

[peak halo]

Pyro and wata

[zenith thorn]

wait hsr burn set is 4sig4cot right

not 4sig4shakes

[forest knot]

Ye

233 is zaza right, 2.323 is Fire

[warped axle]

solo right

[wintry parcel]

If it was for Burn, Dante already has 4 Piece Shakespeare

[peak halo]

Yeap

[wintry parcel]

So Startrail can use 4 Piece Cottie

[forest knot]

Then just use 2.333 Fire with Nana

[zenith thorn]

i was thinking of adding 4shakes hsr set in bot

is that even worth

[wintry parcel]

What is it for anyway

[zenith thorn]

cope fire

[wintry parcel]

Is it worth mentioning a cope strategy for the bot build recommendations?

[forest knot]

Her Ult just deals a lot more damage than her hold yellow combo, 3 Ults is generally just better

Per swap

[zenith thorn]

i mean

there's already cope strat in bot anyway

i think

[wintry parcel]

Hmm

Doesn't sound bad then

Many people own Startrail too

[zenith thorn]

but they can get uncle easily too now

eh for now i will not add it yet

[forest knot]

Fire cope is DV, Ignition is Cot

So you probably don't need to add it anytime soon outside of niche scenarios

[zenith thorn]

oh right since vera holds 4shakes now

that make sense

[opaque ridge]

Guys its over

Im skipping next S rank for luno

[radiant panther]

should I run Lilith, Bathlon Jet, DV Guin Ish on Dark wz?

[frank kindle]

Wut

Do u have luna

[radiant panther]

I have but its a pain

[frank kindle]

Wdym

[radiant panther]

moving those skills

[frank kindle]

Luna 4 dv 2ein 2 gloria
Lilith 4 barcelo 4 cottie
Nanami usual

[opaque ridge]

Moving what skills

[radiant panther]

Whats the rot?

[frank kindle]

Check azriel yt

[sly geyser]

azriel has a yt ?

[frank kindle]

But doing 242 then swap to nana for two rots is okay as well

[sly geyser]

[frank kindle]

Yea he malding wz

[sly geyser]

why not cc role smh

[frank kindle]

Because missinfo gods get priority

[radiant panther]

the hell is this rot? luna, lilith, nana?

[sly geyser]

what a shame

[sick flower]

@frank kindle can i ask something mr wolf :3

[frank kindle]

#📨・meta-help message

Sup

[radiant panther]

any links?

[sick flower]

is the 1 week bc pack available to purchase after a week

[frank kindle]

Click link above

7day boon? Happens once in eternity

[sick flower]

:c

[frank kindle]

If its in shop u just buy it

If u bought then thats it

[steady otter]

hi mr wolf

[frank kindle]

Hi Lao

Coming home then gonna 607k cradle

[steady otter]

https://tenor.com/view/wuwa-carlotta-cheecks-squeeze-squishy-gif-2882428430083543852

[sick flower]

i have 24k rn and these 2 are active do you think i will be able to get 46k by the end of dmc @frank kindle

[frank kindle]

Why u didnt buy second supply pass

[sly geyser]

bc I'm no whel u fk whel

[frank kindle]

What is this tadpole cosplay

[sick flower]

broke 💔

[feral pollen]

actual goldfish wtf

in my whel-help channel

[sick flower]

whelfie just say can i do it or not :c

[frank kindle]

When u bought them

[sick flower]

uh