📨・meta-help

[sand flume]

Aww then I'll have to change builds?

[calm panther]

geira goes shakes cottie

and ss3 and below pyroath goes eins harmony

as far as im aware

[frank kindle]

she needs dlt to run shakes btw

[calm panther]

baseline investment

[river nymph]

[calm panther]

but yeah true

[frank kindle]

better disclose beforehand

[calm panther]

yeah

[sand flume]

Sorry to dissapoint you

[river nymph]

uh oh

[sand flume]

What should I change

[stray siren]

Both

SS3 is 10% more healing buff than Ayla

Vera is the DPS of the fire team rn, Ayla is an outdated ice DPS from one year ago

Or two years

Idk CN times anymore

[main latch]

I forgot to ask but are A ranks basically fodder/niche/useless?

[sand flume]

What most of them say

[stray siren]

Really depends

Healers for Solo DPSs > Amplifiers for solo DPSs (Ayla no weapon, 21 no weapon)

Although in this case it would only be wanshi or Lux

And it would be in a very extreme case where someone does not have Ishmael

Nanami B still a cope tank for Phys

[frank kindle]

xxi 21 nice cope for ppc if ur lilith is decently invested

[stray siren]

Ah yes, 21

[sand flume]

Noeb question here, shakes upper and cottie lower right?

[frank kindle]

but when it comes to wz zaza is straight up better than cope a ranks

[stray siren]

Yes

[river nymph]

[frank kindle]

if u are about to change gera memories, keep in mind that build needs deadline timing reso on signature weapon

[sand flume]

Soooo.... Should I stick to dv?

[frank kindle]

probably

[sand flume]

Hmmm

[frank kindle]

unfortunately fire lowkey cope with only lucia having sig

[river nymph]

instead of cottie on wata you could do eins too

[sand flume]

Okie okie

[frank kindle]

can u send huaxu

[river nymph]

cheese typing

[stray siren]

Atp try to get Gei weapon

She can solo DPS

So u can use Wata 4 Shakes 2 Eins qte bot

And another Amp with 2 Resos

[rough crater]

quick q, who s better as amp in nihil team, ss0 vera geiravor or sss0 21 feral?

[frank kindle]

where lilith

[shy jackal]

gera

[river nymph]

geira

[rocky wedge]

https://imgur.com/u2kjYDZ

[deft apex]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/867995160854806588/1396547875789344798/TIIINzVMap8.gif

[opaque ridge]

Gera again and i’ll make u a gera

[simple dew]

lilith died along the way

[sleek tulip]

One question guys

Its easy to make combos with vergil I mean with 2 fingers
Because still idk what custom hud to make for that🤣

[wintry parcel]

Is that a question or a statement

[opaque ridge]

Is that a question or a statement

[sleek tulip]

Question

I play dmc peak of combat but as we know there's no combo but in pgr looks hard for a 2 finger player

[feral pollen]

become three finger player = ez virgin and donte gameplay

[frank kindle]

• gf gets a bonus

[opaque ridge]

pgr is all muscle memory and timing

[frank kindle]

[sleek tulip]

Nah

I will try to do my best for that🤣

[keen sable]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/867789773729300490/1397606096096592014/998fa50587ae422c981a7e7aea27f50d20250722.gif

[zenith kernel]

I wish that was the case

[opaque ridge]

wdym thats the basic of pgr though

u memorize rots and do the same thing over and over again

unless ur talking about styling on bosses

[zenith kernel]

Yeah the basics

[zenith kernel]

Memorizing the rots doesn't account for how you utilize them effectively
Not to mention rng still exists
Sure if you're playing casually just spamming the rot works but when it comes to actually wanting to hit close to the peak of your potential scoring with your investment alot more than simply "Memorizing and executing"
If that was the case t100 wouldn't be filled with whales scoring lower than mid invest

Holy yap
Ain't reading allat

[opaque ridge]

aint no one gonna care about a score that lasts a week at most

u can peak all u want but i aint caring for that score when it resets every week

[zenith kernel]

Well this applies to quite literally everything

It's just interest based

Whels whel because whel but they ain't gon care about the 50k they dropped on waifu when Eos innit

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/867789773729300490/1397606096096592014/998fa50587ae422c981a7e7aea27f50d20250722.gif

[feral pollen]

bro trying sell wz as if it mattered you get max rewards by doing wantaps with mid score and bouncing between hero/legend each week

[opaque ridge]

it is interest based, ur absolutely on point about that

[zenith kernel]

Disingenuous reply but sure, "selling wz" wasn't the crux of it
It's the undermining of inherent mechanics
And like i said
Interest based

[opaque ridge]

i just dont feel like its worth my time to mald my hours into a score that wont matter down the line

[zenith kernel]

[opaque ridge]

if u hit an all time ppc spot like top 10 then sure

[zenith kernel]

ppc

🥀

[opaque ridge]

but wz is just retain and get reward

like when u join a death bracket with two top 10 player

all that logic gets thrown outta the window

accept death and move on

[ebon adder]

is this a debate about which endgame mode should we mald or sumn

[river nymph]

im always in a bracket with a top10 player 😔

[zenith kernel]

Just don't enter wz early wym whales are also doing it

[zenith kernel]

-top 3 player
Geddifok

[opaque ridge]

i dont even click on wz till saturday/sundays

[river nymph]

what is there to mald in ppc just get the 1.8m and dip

[river nymph]

[maiden sleet]

what bottom memory resonance for dps solacetune?

[zenith kernel]

Core

[opaque ridge]

class

wtf

[zenith kernel]

[river nymph]

class

[opaque ridge]

bro trying to brick him

[zenith kernel]

Dps Han is core
Wym

[river nymph]

if you have selena

[opaque ridge]

hanying aint ever gonna be main dps anymore

[river nymph]

[opaque ridge]

he throws 6 usb now, thats 6 usb he wont ever get back

[river nymph]

selena qte does more dmg than hanying

[maiden sleet]

i dont have pianissimo shes just my dps until i get vergil 💔💔

[opaque ridge]

i had to re-usb her because she was dps for a long time

[river nymph]

oh rip

vergin still wants hy on class tho

[zenith kernel]

Hanying swap in does more damage than concerto

[opaque ridge]

but global already at selena

[maiden sleet]

i can always change it later

[river nymph]

who uses concerto for dmg in phys those are just to get you in flower ult

[zenith kernel]

Will class actually up my score
A certain breakpoint seems impossible without core rn

[opaque ridge]

non whels

[zenith kernel]

[river nymph]

try it

[zenith kernel]

If i don't 8.3m with class i will hashire sori yo..

[river nymph]

[zenith kernel]

But i don't wanna play selena anymore

[opaque ridge]

make her a new set

[zenith kernel]

She sucks ass

[river nymph]

doesnt everyone have like 500k shop coins

[opaque ridge]

u suck ass

[river nymph]

same

[zenith kernel]

Yeah but my ass is lazy when it comes to building
It's so tedious since we can't fast random reso and fast level

Smh

[zenith kernel]

Oh no selena stan

[zenith kernel]

I literally have serum expiring today cause idk what to do with them

[opaque ridge]

Wtf just spam the resource node

U aint day 1 player

[river nymph]

bruh that is literally the only thing to spend serum on besides A rank shards

wdym you dont know what to do with them

[zenith kernel]

I've been playing 3 years
I have more than enough resources to make serum redundant
Kek
Also what if i hit max currency?

[river nymph]

youre such a goofball

[zenith kernel]

Serum used to be so hard to manage 🥀

[opaque ridge]

youre such a goofball

[zenith kernel]

I like my whimsy moments
Smh

[opaque ridge]

Make 6 maxed lingyas

[river nymph]

[zenith kernel]

Oh yeah
Guess I'll s+ lingya

[river nymph]

lingya bolls

[zenith kernel]

Why is Lingya the only Meta A cub
Surely they could add a gen 3 lIngya or somn

Wait when last did we get a new A cub?

[river nymph]

i keep saying they should add support skills to new cubs

[opaque ridge]

No diff

Unless new s pet straight up buffs 20% for next swap

Lingya will always be 🐐

[zenith kernel]

Especially Amp cubs

[opaque ridge]

They should leap cubs

[river nymph]

at least they should add a lingya equivalent for each element

[zenith kernel]

Cause Vera cub does hopes and dreams and nothing else

[zenith kernel]

Don't give em ideas

[river nymph]

or make lingya omnielement

[zenith kernel]

[opaque ridge]

Lingya passive too good

[river nymph]

he so cute too

[opaque ridge]

Remember starfarer cub was goat

Its time to bring back the dupe cub meta

[river nymph]

the only cub that actually gathers

[opaque ridge]

Now every new S rank and their grandma has their own cub

income expansion

[craggy stirrup]

Do I SS3 Hanying for Vergil?

Or SS3 Lucia for Plasma Beam?

[formal radish]

Dumb Thunderbolt Banner

[craggy stirrup]

I didnt spend 15k BC on it yet

But if I were to ever get it, who do I pick

[formal radish]

Idk

[inner escarp]

Vera`s memories and its resonance?

[still moat]

Shakespeare + cottie, 15 atk + ult

[wintry parcel]

Oh my god

<@&595893856554319873> mr.beast scam

[shrewd cosmos]

Bro pingged all the mods. anyways, chat, is it true that discord is gonna have ts?

time stop

[wintry parcel]

Ultima slash?

[wintry parcel]

Oh

She does

But only for her second signature move I've heard

[crude lava]

Is it possible to bruteforce wz/ppc efficiently, without required element units?

[shrewd cosmos]

Ah, makes more sense. But still, a ranks are now getting time stop?

[rose yew]

Time to scram before the waves of mods get here

[shrewd cosmos]

Well, depends on your cope units

[wintry parcel]

Who knows

[shrewd cosmos]

but is gonna be less then actual elemental

[pearl solstice]

Well it's ok tho?

It's needed

[wintry parcel]

She's the first of the kind

[shrewd cosmos]

it is, but Id say pinging a specific one would be better. but then again, its not like we know who's active ¯_(ツ)_/¯

[pearl solstice]

So he didn't do anything wrong imo

[calm panther]

it's better to at everyone

you never know who's available

[pearl solstice]

Yes that's right

[shrewd cosmos]

Boo, jetavie should have had time stop

I need a cope attacker

[calm panther]

and pinging all of them ensures the fastest response

[pearl solstice]

We won't be mad at u for that

[crude lava]

Any ss unit, I just trying to figure out how bruteforce work here

[shrewd cosmos]

Nanaknight is ur ultimate cope unit

[pearl solstice]

But I'm sure none of you would fall for mr beast scam right?

[shrewd cosmos]

Yeah

[shrewd cosmos]

but depends on which elements

[calm panther]

yeah that's dumb, but remember guys to buy my new coin sr. creature

[crude lava]

Idk, but not helping to understand tho, I heard that I can brute force with some affixes

[shrewd cosmos]

Pgr should start crypto coins

[wintry parcel]

Most people here shouldn't really fall for it

But considering the surge of newcomers that are coming for the DMC collaboration version

It might become an issue

[calm panther]

dmc > lower iq . I see

phd_noted

[shrewd cosmos]

well, give us some more info to work with.

nana is for lightning, plasma, fire, nihility, disruption, uuh fire but explosive (i forgot the name of affix), and prob like 1 or 2 more i forgot

[calm panther]

ignition

and then there's glow

[shrewd cosmos]

likely glow as well since its a off breach of plasma and lighting (i think?)

[calm panther]

then there's zaza teams

[shrewd cosmos]

ye

Those as well.

[calm panther]

I think she needs more teams honestly

I hope they give her a leap that gives her omni shred

[crude lava]

So let's imagine that there's fire PPC boss. What other team I can use efficiently without losing much in comparison to actual meta fire team

[calm panther]

idk what you have

[shrewd cosmos]

U give us ur account

[calm panther]

can you send you huaxu?

[calm panther]

yeah, email and password please

[crude lava]

.

[calm panther]

[shrewd cosmos]

cred info as well

[shrewd cosmos]

give us ur [hauxu ](https://huaxu.app/)

https://huaxu.app/

[crude lava]

What's the point, I'm not asking what I can use on my account

Just in general

[calm panther]

The thing is it always depends

[crude lava]

Let's say there's ppc fire boss, what ss team I can use without pyroath, wata and vera

[shrewd cosmos]

nhility + nana id say

[calm panther]

nihil team is usually okay at bruteforcing, but it might not be what gives you the best result

[crude lava]

Is any not fire team can score there good?

[shrewd cosmos]

u can use old gen, but nhility + nana would be better i think?

[crude lava]

Idk, I'm asking, nihil will do well?

[shrewd cosmos]

Yes. Not as high as true fire, but works well enough for cope

[crude lava]

If it works well - then why, cos it makes little sense if I watch on elements

Nihill is like a dark element and no were near fire

[shrewd cosmos]

Because nihility doesn't give a damn about element. Luna + ishmeal can be used for any element but physical. you want nana because she is much better then ishmeal as a fire tank (90% sure)

[crude lava]

So brute force work only for nihil?

Other affixes work well only on affix bosses?

[shrewd cosmos]

other affix on different affix weakness boss is like using a gun on a tank. Inffective

A regular pistol against a tank

pointless to do so, unless it's plasma on glow. then it would work in theory? at least it should work better then using a different affix

[crude lava]

Iv heard that glaciation and plasma are very strong, so they strong only for their own bosses?

[crude lava]

How plasma can work on glow?

[shrewd cosmos]

they deal insane damage, but you dont wanna use them on a different affix from my understanding. I havent looked at damage numbers and am operating on logic and understanding

U can use plasma for fire and lighting, but it wouldn't be as effective on other bosses with more hp. Ofc for ppc./wz, im pretty sure it's damage is enough to offset it, but wouldnt recommend it

[calm panther]

well, they do very high damage

[shrewd cosmos]

Cuz plasma is parent

[calm panther]

but both are very backloaded

[shrewd cosmos]

#📨・meta-help message

[calm panther]

you can use it for ppc bosses but the big pp damage takes a bit longer than other teams

so I don't usually use them to brute force

[normal sierra]

but lotsa people gonna brute force digimon

[calm panther]

also it takes lucia nanami and lilith

which is, an absolutely insane cost

for most ppcs

[calm panther]

I can't wait for brilliance which is an affix of glitter which is an affix of glow which is an affix of plasma which is an affix of lighting

[crude lava]

Hmm ok, why plasma can brute force fire?

[calm panther]

you don't really use plasma for fire, you just let go of it and play fire

if anything you use ignition on nanami

then into lucia

[shrewd cosmos]

cuz fire semi buffs plasma. and plasma with this semi buff + it's insane damage makes it usable. but again, not much of a point

you might as well use true fire team

[crude lava]

Thanks a lot for explaining, also i wonder what zaza team do and how to make one if I need

[calm panther]

zaza team refers to unconventional teams

[shrewd cosmos]

honestly, Would explain, but I myself dont understand them. My understanding is that they are improper teams composed of your most built characters, ignoring synergy

[calm panther]

that's basically what it refers to

one example of zaza

is a dark team consisting of luna oblivion, wanshi lucid dreamer, and lilith. luna turns debuffs and buffs into omni element, so wanshi's ice shreds can work on dark units like lilith

so lilith can dps while taking advantage of wanshi's shred

[crude lava]

Ouh nice, is there more teams like that?

[calm panther]

technically pyroath vera nanami is also kind of a zaza team. also that previous team can double as a zaza ice by dpsing wanshi instead of lilith

[nova quarry]

since we are getting another s rank selector in bianca patch, shukra ss6 or epitaph ss6 for both selectors we have rn and the future?

idk if anyone worth picking other than the two

[obsidian dune]

epitaph ss6 so you can voucher him to 3s quickly

[normal sierra]

pick wata and then you can sss him easier on discord patch

[crude lava]

So team like nana, feral, Vera as qte bot is zaza team?

[remote fossil]

And u can save ur voucher for future

[shrewd cosmos]

I need more vouchers. Im damn broke as hell. Also Iv finally got some bc saving after not having any since ishmeals patch

[slate gull]

then veronica fire tank

[normal sierra]

seems like a standard ppc team to me

[nova quarry]

its not worth nabbing 21 sss this late right]

[slate gull]

can work in wz too since nana can basically solo

[remote fossil]

No, i need daren out of dark bruh, why kuro make wata cant be zaza dark

[opaque ridge]

veronica is ice attacker

[normal sierra]

worth cuz we play the sticker meta route

[obsidian dune]

tf?

[remote fossil]

Darkflow bricked from start

[opaque ridge]

sounds like trueslash

[slate gull]

daren will be replaced next year

[crude lava]

Why

[remote fossil]

[obsidian dune]

hes talking nonsense

[crude lava]

[slate gull]

anything new in discord patch?

[remote fossil]

Except for fixing some bugs, no for now

[slate gull]

fixing huh

that's new for kuro

[remote fossil]

Yes

Usually nerf dmg first

[slate gull]

[calm panther]

they better not nerf her

you have no idea how long I've waited for a scissor character

and they made her an a rank

😭

[silk otter]

What's trailblazer weak to in ppc? It only says steel-willed

[wintry parcel]

He has no weaknesses

No advantage to any specific team

[silk otter]

Any mechanics that I could work around? I am dealing negative dmg bruh

[wintry parcel]

No

Not in Phantom Pain Cage

You just have to hit it harder

[remote fossil]

Just brute force with ur strongest team other than fire and dark

[silk otter]

Who's the strongest character in the game as of now? I do have selena and nanami as my latest characters and I also have luna with sig but no Ishmael. What do u think?

[wintry parcel]

Technically Pianissimo and Startrail

[calm panther]

both nana and selena should destroy trailblazer

[wintry parcel]

But that's assuming you have the appropriate team for them

By themselves, they won't do much

[calm panther]

well

nana barely has an appropiate team

feral + anyone who can heal

[silk otter]

I am missing the green haired girl for selena but I got echo

[calm panther]

or qte bot cw + ishmael

[silk otter]

The lightning team is kinda free though

[slate gull]

you're missing 2 huge upgrades then

[zenith thorn]

describe the 2 upgrade

what3

[slate gull]

mountainous

[true pivot]

[earnest owl]

Is ss0 vera better than ss3 Lilith in void ? I have both at r2

[slate gull]

yes

coz your ishmael copying wata shred, and not daren fake shred

[earnest owl]

Ohhhh okay thabks

[wintry parcel]

Hold on

[wintry parcel]

What rank is your Parhelion

[earnest owl]

Ss3

[wintry parcel]

You're good to go then

[tight trellis]

What’s the SSS echo wz rot for physical wz?

[wintry parcel]

Uhh

Well

[wintry parcel]

If you have SSS rank Solactune along with SSS rank Echo, you would prefer to use Glaciation rotation on Echo and swap out after holding the dodge and holding the basic attack after you have a full gauge so that in the next swap in you can cast her Physical signature move instead of Glaciation signature move

Otherwise if you don't have SSS rank Solacetune, Echo rotation would be the normal Physical rotation with holding the basic attack and pinging her Special orb and fill gauge afterwards for her core passive

[true pivot]

if ss3 hanying:
swap in > hold basic > ping all ciphers > 2x 1 ping > ult > swap out

if 3s hanying:
swap in > hold dodge > 3 ping > dodge > hold basic > swap out
swap in > ult > hold dodge > 3 ping > dodge > hold basic > swap out

[tight trellis]

Thank you dalaos

[sly geyser]

[ashen edge]

[tight trellis]

Any news on veronica and liv elements yet?

[wintry parcel]

No

[calm panther]

can't wait for fire veronica, wata powercreep before daren let's goooooooo

[sly geyser]

what if veronica powercreep cw

[wintry parcel]

The next Version is already revealed to be Discord version from the Beta release

It's going to take some time until the next version of whoever is coming afterwards

[sly geyser]

and liv alisa

[wintry parcel]

Either Veronica or Liv

[sly geyser]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/936177246018895882/1322031512710811760/1263735698985586709.gif

[wintry parcel]

Whoever that is in the image

[sly geyser]

if after Discord it's not Veronica then idk

[earnest owl]

Is shukra worth investing in

[sly geyser]

I'm prolly playing another game

[sly geyser]

ye

[calm panther]

define investing

[sly geyser]

I'm not google translate

[calm panther]

i wasn't asking you

[earnest owl]

Hmm just sig + some resos since I’m poor

But I’d rather not invest in her since she’s getting kinda old and I dislike her playstyle

[calm panther]

honestly after liv she'll probably not see the light of the field at low invetment

[tight trellis]

Is selena worth getting r2?

[wintry parcel]

Yes it is

[calm panther]

Just get sig and dlt and leave it at that

don't do more

[earnest owl]

Thanks

[wintry parcel]

It is just a matter that if your other character needs weapon resonance skills more than 2 resonances on Pianissimo

[tight trellis]

Hmmm how much more wz score would giving her glorious afterglow get. Already have dlt

[calm panther]

I usually prefer to get resos on the amp and tank before attacker

[true pivot]

[wintry parcel]

I don't know

[sly geyser]

I'm not into speculation tho just invest on her we never know

[tight trellis]

[wintry parcel]

Scores can fluctuate between investment

2 resonance Pianissimo can do more than just "more" damage with the appropriate damage threshold, for example within Warzone

But it can also be just a minimum improvement because the previous damage thresholds were already great

It's hard to assume without a reliable experience from certain players that have similar investment

[sly geyser]

bro still typing?

[cobalt prawn]

resonances often have a larger impact than you'd think

or at least, I didn't put too much thought into it initially but having a full team of R2 or R3 chars is huuuge

[frank kindle]

[cedar nebula]

guys for the free selector if I have watanabe and don't have Qu, I just pick Qu for ice team right?

[vague nebula]

[azure barn]

With the newer teams yeah, it definitely has a bigger impact now

Back then minimum resos are fine for the most part

Now the teams are so prone to overkilling waves that you'd benefit from just a little bit more dmg a lot more than usual

[silk otter]

Which are?

Can someone tell me more abt qte bots? Bc I sometimes will have a vacant slot that I put whatever in or when I go solo. I think u can put a certain set for qte buffs but if someone could explain better I'll be thankful

[flat trail]

basically QTE bots are constructs that u dont switch to them onfield, just activate their respective coloured QTE when u do a 3 ping on your controlling character

One of the constructs u have in ur team should have 4 piece Da Vinci, gives a massive attack boost for 2s (if there's 3 on the field at the same time, like the 2 QTEs and ur controlling one) and also activates another character's QTE when their own is triggered.

[last yoke]

The one in the gacha mb I didn't notice someone replied

[silk otter]

Are there any specific constructs that I wanna use for qte maybe bc theirs gives buffs other than the set one?

[zenith thorn]

severely underinvest

[fading kestrel]

any tank and any amplifier fits the role
keep in mind those buffs do not stack.
for example, if you look at your dark team, where Lilith (an amplifier) is your main-dps, you will not have a amp-qte-bot. but a tank instead

[zenith thorn]

modern team rarely have qte bots that doesn't deal respecting dmg (feral and especially scire is outlier since they are old)

oh and ayla

i forgot cow exist

[fading kestrel]

yea what cryo said
but you'll probably still use qte bots more often since i doubt you have all units. gotta fill incomplete teams somehow

[zenith thorn]

ye

qte bots usually are just same element

and/or tank+support

[silk otter]

Do tanks and amplifiers have buffing qtes aside from the mems they're carrying?

[silk otter]

Do I use any tank or does it have to be a dark tank? If there is one ofc

[fading kestrel]

amps trigger buffs whenever they heal (the qte heals)
tanks trigger buffs whenever they do damage (the qte deals damagee)

[fading kestrel]

if there is one, stay on same element

[zenith thorn]

tanks have their own innate shred
amplifier also have their own innate buffs

mems can be considered as addition

[silk otter]

Can teddy work?

[fading kestrel]

you should already have a lilith, so teddys buffs dont really matter?
but she can hold memories that give buffs

lilith
teddy
dark tank
is a workable choice for a low invest team. better would be to use Luna Oblivion to let a better tank be used

but iunno if you have her

or ishmael, forgot about her

oh yeah since you wanted to learn about qte bots, i should prob explain Ishmael too
ish is basically an omni-qte-bot. she can go in any elemental team as a qte buffer, and it will always work
she will always give the same amount of buffs as the meta unit of that role (if you make Ish a dark-tank, she imitates Scire's shred).

while she can change her buffs, she cannot change her damage
thats why she stays a qte bot if shes not in nihil

[fading kestrel]

if scire ever gets powercrept, Ishmael will buff herself to the stats of the new, stronger unit

[silk otter]

I have luna oblivion with her sig

[fading kestrel]

hell yeah
in that case
Lilith
Luna
your best tank (wanshi gud)

[silk otter]

Who's the dps here?

Luna could get any buffs but if the fight favors dark wouldn't lilith be better?

[frank kindle]

depends what u will use team for

[silk otter]

For now it's for dark ppc

[fading kestrel]

dark
Lilith deals dark damage
Wanshi gives Ice buffs
Luna makes the Ice buffs work for Lilith

[silk otter]

That's a part I've missed. Thought luna converts buffs universal for herself only but since that's the case it's even better

[fading kestrel]

alternatively, this team can also work for Void
in that case, luna is the dps

[zenith thorn]

that's a really common misconception lol

[silk otter]

I also have start trail as a lightning tank

Wanshi still better?

[ocean dust]

is ss vergil better than ss4 bianca in physical?

[zenith thorn]

what invest startrail and wanshi?

[fading kestrel]

whoever is higher investment
wanshi can get his upgrades easily through vouchers

[frank kindle]

other one is that people think she makes dmg universal

[silk otter]

Both are SS with no sig

[fading kestrel]

cant wait to use my luna to help me in ppc

[zenith thorn]

trueslash? yes
phys? lmfao no

where's your selena

[ocean dust]

i dont wanna pull her

[opaque ridge]

Wheres ur selena

[fading kestrel]

where's your selena

[zenith thorn]

#📨・general-help

[opaque ridge]

Toxic

[zenith thorn]

ur toxic

[zenith thorn]

uhhh nanami then

[silk otter]

Barcelo guien for lilith
Liston ein for wanshi
And Da Vinci for luna?
What's the 2pc for luna, Do I use nanami instead of wanshi or he still better

[young badge]

lilith goes barcelo and cittie

[fading kestrel]

why is guin on lilith. replace that with cottie

[young badge]

cottie

[frank kindle]

barcelo cutie

[young badge]

[zenith thorn]

is lillith build correct or does it need fixing

[fading kestrel]

since you have em both at equal invest, the difference between nana and wansh is negligible

[vale raft]

Lilith: Daemonissa <:s_rank:1287636749052412026><:amplifier:1290613387197415467><:dark_element:1290613554923438102><:electroconvergence:1288090218922119181>

Main Support Sub-DPS Set

Usage

Support Sub-DPS

Game Modes

High Difficulty, Pain Cage, Warzone, Clash Reflection, Norman

Description

Recommended for all ranks
General DPS set

Memories

4x Barcelo
2x Cottie

Memory Resonances

Top Slot : 6x Any ATK+15 Variant
Bottom Slot: 6x Signature

Harmony Recommendation

Cottie

[zenith thorn]

seems correct
where did u get barcelo + guib

[frank kindle]

so when it comes to ppc u use barcelo + bathlon on knight kill and barcelo + cottie on chaos/hell

[silk otter]

It said 6x signature and then class skill and then sig again

[fading kestrel]

think thats the ingame recommendation

[frank kindle]

ye it is

[zenith thorn]

there's 2 build
main dps and plasma affix support

don't worry about the latter

[silk otter]

A while back someone in here told me to build her that way

[frank kindle]

u sure it was here and not in #📨・general-help

[zenith thorn]

seeing this makes me wonder if i should include bianca hyper specific ppc build on bot

[young badge]

does no on carries catherine in phys?

[zenith thorn]

if all harmo,ye

[fading kestrel]

i will blow them up

[silk otter]

I am not sure, chats were split not too long ago so maybe when it was only one

[vague nebula]

https://tenor.com/view/you-poor-thing-sarcasm-spongebob-spongebob-squarepants-sarcastic-gif-15938780799417858797

[frank kindle]

must been general help then

[rocky wedge]

no people still give misinfo here

anyone can say anything if no one else is

[frank kindle]

or ye, some hours when people were not on

[odd roost]

Can SSS lilith even Kill the 35mil HP boss?

[frank kindle]

the new dark one?

[odd roost]

Yeah in bianca patch

[fading kestrel]

ephialtes ye

[frank kindle]

ig u could, but ur score would be questionable without walter thats for sure

[chrome wind]

any tips to lvl up dfm fast?

[fading kestrel]

you can do anything!
-# (with a one minute clear time)

[frank kindle]

personally i was spamming pyro, take signa + diesel - spam red orb = profit

[zenith thorn]

get someone else to do your dfm

[frank kindle]

dfm probably has longest runs out of all 3

[river nymph]

[zenith thorn]

RonStuckInAJar

[chrome wind]

i curently spamming wanshi because it has like unli ultimate

[frank kindle]

Could technically say 2 since in no way u doing dfm in 3 minutes like u can do tundra

[mighty tusk]

still enough to 580k yes

[frank kindle]

Pyro with signa and diesel u have infinite orbs and each ping will deal omega poison dmg

[chrome wind]

i dont have pyro ;-;

[frank kindle]

Cant u just trial her in dfm tho

[odd roost]

Get ur strongest characters and clear stages in 2 sec. My SS3 wanshi cleared everything by simply hold red, not even a single bullet used

[chrome wind]

idk each time I check I cant see pyro

[fading kestrel]

just gamble better

[chrome wind]

yeah my wanshi doing same

[noble zinc]

【【战双】3s0莉莉丝携3万事维新暗单c埃比阿提斯12 15 20 总分613522-哔哩哔哩】 https://b23.tv/DyNMCgu

[chrome wind]

what is the best memory for wanshi in dfm?

[lost brook]

which A rank cubs are worth upgrading? (i have all of them except thorny)

[frank kindle]

lingya

[chrome wind]

why theres no selena in dfm ;-;

[frank kindle]

because dfm is old stuff u can enjoy selena in tundra || although fastest tundra is just by clicking stuff and abandoning run ||

[chrome wind]

i finished my tundra ;-;

[noble zinc]

That's SSS0 Zaza

[frank kindle]

ye still applies tho

[zenith thorn]

hey atleast you didnt get fel invest'ed

[chrome wind]

should i r3 selena 😄

[frank kindle]

that's just usual espada vid

[frank kindle]

no

u don't invest vertically here

[chrome wind]

eh

[zenith thorn]

tell that to pwo and me

[mighty tusk]

[frank kindle]

u guys are based

imagine having r3 selena while han sits there sigless

[zenith thorn]

y u here

[chrome wind]

my hanying r2 😄

[river nymph]

[mighty tusk]

wynaut

[noble zinc]

[frank kindle]

drop huaxu

[river nymph]

[chrome wind]

why ;-;

[frank kindle]

why not

[river nymph]

-

[hoary dagger]

[river nymph]

•_•

[hoary dagger]

okay next week i post r1 video

[frank kindle]

https://tenor.com/view/madagascar-skipper-weve-been-ratted-out-boys-ratted-out-penguins-of-madagascar-gif-22640063

[frank kindle]

sees score
u know, i'll switch back to r2

[noble zinc]

No SS3 selena use

[chrome wind]

im embarrassed of my acc

[zenith thorn]

wtf what reso does walter use

no dlt?
but when i check huxau why there's dlt

[spiral merlin]

dlt needed for glow

also ppc fast strats i believe

[zenith thorn]

oh so 2 set of resos?

[spiral merlin]

but as always my ppc knowledge limited

[frank kindle]

also phys u sent me guy had dlt on han, so i had to reso my han scored 6m tho in hero

[zenith thorn]

dark no dlt
glow yes dlt?

[noble zinc]

Warzone can go no dlt then?

[spiral merlin]

ye wz fine without

[noble zinc]

[spiral merlin]

basically

[frank kindle]

just ss3 if u are worried about orbs

[fading kestrel]

the first dps in recorded history to not need dlt?

what is this
what happened to my kuso

[spiral merlin]

ss3 doesnt help orbs

[noble zinc]

Lee and balter didn't use dlt as well

Idk before that

[fading kestrel]

those arent real

[frank kindle]

what the refund is for then

[spiral merlin]

the extra orbs u use because of ss3 lol

[frank kindle]

so basically u use more but u regain them back

[zenith thorn]

is this right then?

[chrome wind]

my ss3 selena has unli orbs tho

[frank kindle]

[spiral merlin]

should be

[zenith thorn]

prolly should add adjust based on context on main too

[frank kindle]

fix gera builds while u are at it

[spiral merlin]

i dont remember when she gets matrix

prob incan over matrix tho

[zenith thorn]

alr did

[frank kindle]

[zenith thorn]

im just waiting for ek to accept my pr

[frank kindle]

ss3 too?

[zenith thorn]

ye

updated scire,geira and epith build

[frank kindle]

ek lucky

[zenith thorn]

is there anything else that need to be updated?

[vale raft]

Wanshi: Lucid Dreamer <:s_rank:1287636749052412026><:tank:1290614106520555571><:ice_element:1290613933106925638><:glaciation:1288090076001210398>

Harmony Tank Set

Usage

Harmony Tank/Sub-DPS
Glacio Enabler

Game Modes

High Difficulty, Pain Cage, Warzone, Clash Reflection, Norman

Description

Recommended for all ranks
Harmony Set (Requires Harmony on Signature 6 Weapon)*
Also used as Glacio enabler set. If lacking Harmony, replace Liston with Einsteina. Alisa will be holding 4 Da Vinci and 2/4 Guinevere.

Memories

4x Liston
2x Chen Jiyuan
2x Chen Jiyuan (Harmony)

Memory Resonances

Top Slot : 6x Any ATK+15 Variant
Bottom Slot: 6x Signature

[frank kindle]

i think there was some build that had things listed in reverse, not sure which one was it

like in select build said x, but it was y

[mighty tusk]

@zenith thorn add tank class reso to glacio set description here

[analog coral]

Did leap actually resurrect uncle

[spiral merlin]

he never died

but yes

[fading kestrel]

god bless

[zenith thorn]

hmm

[analog coral]

So if I'm skipping dmc hjs weapon is worth the pull?

[mighty tusk]

oh and red as top reso too

[frank kindle]

hmm, now trying to remember which character had this bug

[spiral merlin]

worth because of harmo regardless

the dmg he deals now remains to be seen still

still no darkflow content either

[frank kindle]

@zenith thorn okay i found it, bug in echo selections

[zenith thorn]

oh good catch
send me the pic

[frank kindle]

says signa davinci but in desc says philip

[zenith thorn]

comparison

[frank kindle]

uh just post build echo and try to check second option

[river nymph]

[analog coral]

His harmonis 4 shakes right

Any dlt or not worth over newer frames

[frank kindle]

philip and davinci are swapped out

[zenith thorn]

phys only?

glacio are fine?

[frank kindle]

ye

[zenith thorn]

ek's code is a mess

[chrome wind]

is 4x guin 2x davinci good for alisa glacio build?

[river nymph]

are u the new bot guy?

[frank kindle]

sigless echo? sad wife sad life

[spiral merlin]

dlt not worth since vera

[river nymph]

[nova forum]

[zenith thorn]

im just helping him since i know how to read code
ek's busy

[nova forum]

[frank kindle]

oh nyo, my supply packs ran out

[tulip spade]

Hey guys , i just pulled Selena now , as I was watching a showcase video of her , I notice this gentleman did some input that caused the** orbs to return** just before he Did his ULT 2

Can someone tell me what action input this was ?

[river nymph]

[spiral merlin]

that was the white gauge filling up

[zenith thorn]

feel like alisa normal main build and her harmony build is redudant

why the differention

[tulip spade]

so Im suppose to hold DODGE until the orbs return ?

[spiral merlin]

what you do depends on your selena rank

[frank kindle]

true, no sig echo no life

[chrome wind]

i saw a vid where his build of echo in glacio is 4pcs guin and 2pcs davinci so i coppied

[odd roost]

Welp it's better to just get Waltur

Without luna Zaza lilith can't clear

[tulip spade]

in that instance video though , i need to know how he triggered that ?

[spiral merlin]

i told u the white gauge filled

whites and blue fills gauge and maybe hold dodge too i forget

its what you do when you want to flower ult

[zenith thorn]

is this set worth keeping

lmaocry

prolly not since lillith is free

but if i wanna go this route i would need to update prev builds..
i'll just keep it

[frank kindle]

whose is this

[zenith thorn]

alis

[tulip spade]

@spiral merlin I notice he starts at 3 when he swaps in with her , but I start at 0 ?

[chrome wind]

is your selena ss0?

[spiral merlin]

the number stack i believe is how many quavers you consume with hold basic

[zenith thorn]

only for ss3

[tulip spade]

yes

[frank kindle]

maybe just merge both and put Glacio/Off-Elemental Support Set

[zenith thorn]

quaver obtain is only ss3+

[spiral merlin]

o

yea ss0 is super cooked

[zenith thorn]

seems about right

[chrome wind]

probably check the vid investment in selena

[young pumice]

Max all leap skill alisa is worth?

[frank kindle]

yes

[zenith thorn]

yes

[chrome wind]

yes i think for glacio

what is watanabe affix? is it confirmed?

[frank kindle]

darkflow

[spiral merlin]

darkflow

but no darkflow content

[frank kindle]

for sure sneaky wz in v3

[chrome wind]

yeah probably after they release a dark flow atacker

[spiral merlin]

i wonder if they really are going to kick out cw before the team gets any

veronica boot out cw and my life is yours

[chrome wind]

i think cw is too weak now

[spiral merlin]

always has been

[mighty tusk]

always has been

[frank kindle]

weird how they still didnt fix shred stacking

[chrome wind]

so i think before they add darkflow in wz they will release darkflow attacker 😄

[spiral merlin]

so shred stacking is a thing

[frank kindle]

do they really want to keep daren alive

[spiral merlin]

cw gone frfrfr

[zenith thorn]

doomy works behind kuro

so yeah

[frank kindle]

daren dark shred stacks with wata darkflow shred

[spiral merlin]

ye

i heard it theorised and also thought so myself but didnt get confirmation till now

[chrome wind]

what is the element of new liv frame is it confirmed to be liv?

[river nymph]

kuro should just not be cringe and let wata be a cope dark tank

[frank kindle]

should have invested in daren instead of cw, fr fr

[spiral merlin]

they should just give wata his dark shred

[steady otter]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/867995160854806588/1346215870904664255/image0.gif

[ripe stag]

Restart simulator

[steady otter]

no

u can pretap analog on cn

[ripe stag]

LMAO WHAT

@steady otter oh btw dms

[frank kindle]

unless veronica is dark tank

[steady otter]

https://tenor.com/view/susge-sus-suspicious-susgeemote-emotesusge-gif-12862771718631627642

[ashen edge]

[mighty tusk]

https://tenor.com/view/orange-cat-cat-side-eye-cat-side-eye-orange-cat-staring-gif-4749659952322810298

[chrome wind]

what is liv new frame element is it confirmed?

[steady otter]

empy is fire

[spiral merlin]

liv is prob glow affix

thats a safe assumption

as for element take ur pick

[frank kindle]

i saw ice in background so probably ice

[chrome wind]

is this confirmed to be liv new frame?

[spiral merlin]

no

but who else would it be

[chrome wind]

i hope its ice ampli

[frank kindle]

same headwear

[woven oracle]

Where do yall get these info

[zenith thorn]

which info

the image?

cn 5.5 aniv stream

[frank kindle]

she decided to grow antlers now

[zenith thorn]

me when the ice is too cold

[zenith thorn]

lic become catheriya

[river nymph]

sofia!

[frank kindle]

or bambinata

[river nymph]

[spiral merlin]

[river nymph]

[steady otter]

pulao ofc

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/827230733311016980/1371493035065741464/image0.gif

[woven haven]

what if

ice/Ignition amp

[chrome wind]

Is this good enough idk why did i r3 alisa

[spiral merlin]

ignition doesnt need a better amp rn it needs a better attacker

[woven haven]

yknow what they say

not every team needs an attacker

[river nymph]

dmc skipper detected

[spiral merlin]

nah i still have no idea if im whaling for them or not

[spiral merlin]

vera seems pretty chill in ignition tho

[frank kindle]

yes, now drop huaxu so we can see how of a whale u are

[woven haven]

so just vera liv nana

[chrome wind]

im f2p ;-;

[river nymph]

aether is cn preferring single or double rot dante?

[spiral merlin]

double rota should be

[chrome wind]

look at my bc 😄

[woven haven]

u assume i keep up

i'm just here to ragebait dmc idiots

[river nymph]

fair enough

[chrome wind]

sss lilith or sss wanshi whats better

[mighty tusk]

wanshi

[frank kindle]

hmm

now that we know wata is coming to vouchers, is it even worth for f2p to go sss echo

[last blade]

is iti worth even getting him from the s rank selector ss3

[spiral merlin]

Echo has been bottom priority for a while

[odd roost]

That's why she's at S forever

[frank kindle]

ye ig f2p have no human rights

[chrome wind]

i did buyed 60 shards of echo in voucher ;-;

[frank kindle]

u know, thats why we ask for huaxu lmao

[chrome wind]

im f2p 😄

[frank kindle]

especially then

[chrome wind]

i regret quiting pgr when echo free coating is free

[odd roost]

That's what I said lol

[nova forum]

so sad

[dim pulsar]

Hi, im a new player and still have all my S rank tickets + my Blue ticket. I started playing because of DMC collab and was wondering who should i pull to get both team in a decent spot.

If anyone wanna help feel free to dm

[frank kindle]

dw, next patch another coating is for free

[fading kestrel]

sliiiiiding in

[frank kindle]

https://tenor.com/view/pgr-alisa-alisa-echo-pgr-punishing-gray-raven-punishing-gray-raven-alisa-gif-9632900688742396137

[nova forum]

mf

[chrome wind]

yep

[odd roost]

I got double in my 1st 10 pull.

[frank kindle]

what do u think

[spiral merlin]

yeah looks about right tho ss3 wata is pretty big too

[frank kindle]

Go big or go home

[spiral merlin]

ig so

35% fire 50% df is pretty big

would help if df had content

[chrome wind]

is sss shukra got big buff?

[wintry parcel]

Is SSS rank Shukra a big buff?

_ _
Technically

But you can get much more on the other character

[steady otter]

no, she still flat

[chrome wind]

ok

[steady otter]

nah im joking, ye big buff

[true pivot]

why the hell did she have that bollywood cut lol

[azure barn]

Big buff for Ice yeah

Overall account tho ehhhhh

[true pivot]

i feel like wata has a bigger priority

[frank kindle]

than wanshi?

[true pivot]

yea

[azure barn]

Get SS3 Wanshi but in terms of SSS, Wata should be first imo

[frank kindle]

guess gotta wait till real release cuz things might change a bit

[azure barn]

Cuz Wata belongs in a stronger team

[true pivot]

i feel like he is more versatile rotation wise, as wanshi is strictly fixed to 2 while watanabe can adjust when needed

[azure barn]

If Darkflow is dog tho then I dunno

It probably will be if they don't change anything rn

[frank kindle]

issue is no darkflow content tho

[true pivot]

yea darkflow screw that, but his leap benefits pretty well

ignoring the df stuff he can basically rotate even faster now

[frank kindle]

weird how they still didnt get rid of shred stacking in v2

[true pivot]

their daren glaze is showing

[frank kindle]

ye that tru

[cold walrus]

Why would they

[frank kindle]

guess solon prefers daren more than cw

[azure barn]

First New-Rank Frame ig

Preserving that legendary fossil

[empty cargo]

Is Selena supposed to be bad in guild or I'm using her wrong

[true pivot]

daren will never die fr

[azure barn]

She is bad in Siege yeah

She's usually just there for QTE nukes

[true pivot]

and if a dark tank comes out cw is actually cooked

[cold walrus]

Most of her dmg arent timestoppable

[frank kindle]

the fact that even daren powercrept cw in her leap is true peak cinema

[cold walrus]

Everyone would be happy

[azure barn]

Hyperreal would unironically perform better than Pianissimo in Siege

[true pivot]

veronica bouta be ice tank

[frank kindle]

nah, dark tank with new affix, hell fire that gets increased by both dark and fire another new affix and no content

[true pivot]

why even bother buffing dark when daren is there to save the day

[empty cargo]

Is wata worth SSS if both sandhi and Lilith SSS

[unkempt grotto]

scire be doing more damage than lamia

[azure barn]

Yes

[deft apex]

Daren even more relevant with wata leap

+3 years unreplaced pls

[frank kindle]

i feel like its oversight by them

omega one

[empty cargo]

Okay thx

[cold walrus]

S0 sigless daren

[true pivot]

i said it lots and ill say it again, they probably will have the weather buffs activated by consuming darkflow stacks

[frank kindle]

wouldnt be surprised if it went live, then 2 days in they would hotfix it out cuz they forgot to delete in beta

[ebon adder]

wata sss higher prio than alisa sss?

[azure barn]

Yes

SSS Tanks would probably get higher prio by default

[empty cargo]

Another question I've skipped 2 weeks of bc and now I'm kinda bricked ish category for some time until I recoup can I skip vera if I have SSS Lucia

[azure barn]

With the current Voucher lineup rn at least

[frank kindle]

that's like asking if u can skip sauce on your pizza

[empty cargo]

I can get vera easily but then next patch I'm really bricked

[true pivot]

skip the next patch then

[frank kindle]

not like u need dmc

[forest knot]

Just use Ish and double rotate Wata Lucia, it's not as good but it'll suffice if you really need to save

Otherwise not recommended ofc

Altho tbh if it's also only gonna be 332, I'm not sure if Vera is as strong as she would be on less lopsided investment

[empty cargo]

[chrome wind]

whats the shortcut in tundra? i want to grind my smurf

[empty cargo]

Smurf in pgr is crazy

[azure barn]

Invest primarily on Yellow, to have enough income to do Proxy Battle on everything

[empty cargo]

Smurfing in vanguard ez

[chrome wind]

thats normal i think

[frank kindle]

#📨・meta-help message

[empty cargo]

Idk I'm not up to date on meta pgr since last month

I've just started to learn piano

[chrome wind]

well i saw someone get to the ending in 3minutes idk how

[frank kindle]

click link above

[chrome wind]

thanks

[ebon adder]

what about dfm speedrun?

i just want the border

[frank kindle]

took me on avg 14min speedrun, sadly im no aware of abandon tech there like it is in tundra ( thanks to reverse mechanic )

i just spammed pyro, took signa + diesel and brainrotted life away spamming red orbs

[ebon adder]

i see

thanks anyways looks like i have to raw dog it

[chrome wind]

i did try but why its different ;-;

[frank kindle]

what

all these 3 and just follow vid: basically reverse refunds last 3 days spend + current one - so u click pools for 3 days then on fourth u click 3 pools and reset

[chrome wind]

Idf why my map different

[frank kindle]

thus resulting in 55+ pools clicked

maps are random

[chrome wind]

Oh

[frank kindle]

keypoint is that u need to click two full stages twice with reverse

since exp scales with pools u click

[chrome wind]

ok let me try

[warped axle]

what set does nanami hold for dark zaza?

[wintry parcel]

Heh

Her original Tank set should work just fine

Because you have Oblivion in your team

[warped axle]

herschell heisen?

[wintry parcel]

Yes

[warped axle]

great news

🔥

[vague nebula]

[warped axle]

FREAKING NANAMI CARRIED

my dark team has the highest score

[frank kindle]

i need to finally start doing some story

[chrome wind]

Meanwhile me 1k bc 🤣

[gray beacon]

Donate to the poor

[crude lava]

i did and already spend some

need to finish stong hold, golden vortex and rogue like mods

[feral pollen]

bros got dolphin savings

[crude lava]

nah just played for a week

and did everything, almost

[ripe stag]

Dante is not invul to enemy attacks during most of the animations

But royal guard is absolutely busted

[chrome wind]

How long will it take to finish all

[frank kindle]

reading? lots of time

[ripe stag]

A lot if you read

[chrome wind]

Skip all im just gonna replay them if i have time

[frank kindle]

[crude lava]

i did all quests(main, side) and trainings in like 40hours

[frank kindle]

story skippers

https://tenor.com/view/yakuza-kazuma-kiryu-pissed-off-gif-14586175

[gray beacon]

[crude lava]

i guess it's ok to skip. esp when you find it very bad

[frank kindle]

tf u mean bad

[crude lava]

and yeah you can always come back if you wan

[chrome wind]

Thats what im planning

[crude lava]

like super bad, cutscenes very bad, animations super bad, maps very bad with invisible walls that make no sense, broken scripts and bugs, graphic very bad too, and story itslef writen and directed like funfiction on some low budget anime

and it's not significantly better in chapter 9, or 11, or 14, or 21

[frank kindle]

can u tell me ur fav anime

[crude lava]

Howl's Moving Castle prob

or smthing simple like cowboy bebop

this ones writen good with everything good

with actual logic in what characters do in their world, good visuals and animations, and ofc good story with good directing

[chrome wind]

This is normal right

[feral pollen]

no, big yellow ball with face is not normal thing on login screen

[chrome wind]

I have my real name there lol

[sly geyser]

dang

babel tower back

[warped axle]

[frank kindle]

never seen skill issue so high before ( found in hero ladder )

[feral pollen]

[odd roost]

Bruh

[young badge]

or maybe he just didnt bother malding

[feral pollen]

it's not skill issue, that's just you thinking everybody who plays this game cares about wz

[young badge]

cuz alrdy top 1

[frank kindle]

He isnt even top 40

[zenith thorn]

sss+ wantap would be 800w

[young badge]

top 1 in bracket

[vague nebula]

shouldn't that be at least 10 mil

oh wait I didn't see the + after sss on luna

[frank kindle]

yea..

mf should promote to legend with just nihil alone

[vague nebula]

yeah

he probably doing hold ult

on luna

[ripe stag]

Wrong chat

101

[peak halo]

Thats totaly the most didnt care ppl
My runs with 233 is felt not that bad which i think on it

[crimson swan]

What even is the score for 344 hero

7-8m?

[frank kindle]

333 should be like 8.5m in hero

[chrome wind]

333 in glacio what is the max score?

[crimson swan]

idk but its void so understandable tbh

maybe their hand went numb before getting max score

[formal radish]

443 and only 6.2m this is sad

[frank kindle]

3 resos and SS cubs too

[crimson swan]

[leaden tinsel]

here SSS wanshi should be my best option if all my other units are SS at max right

[frank kindle]

phys is okay there

[zealous mantle]

who should I use for Lilith PPC dark team?
Daren and ___?

[crimson swan]

selena team is good there

[crimson swan]

save lilith for ish boss

[zealous mantle]

yeah im gonna fight Ishmael

someone told me Capri is bad for Lilith.. but i cant remember who they said to replace her with

[crimson swan]

lilith daren and liv is best if sss (assuming vera is used on short) otherwise any other amp works

[zealous mantle]

Daren holding 4 DV 4 Bathlon
so if i use a non-dark amp, i should put Eins on Daren?

[leaden tinsel]

okay i guess ill try selena and wanshi see who does more

[crimson swan]

i used 4 bath 2 ein 2 gloria

[frank kindle]

what invest is lilith and daren

[crimson swan]

amp is the dv holder, 4dv 4 guin

[zealous mantle]

3SR2 Lilith
SS3 R1 Daren

[crimson swan]

then yeah use my build

[frank kindle]

just bring second amp for sam + guin and u bing chilling

u gonna own her

[crimson swan]

i kinda fked around too much and accidentally saved the jetavie score on hell

[leaden tinsel]

i can do this for dark tank yeah

[crimson swan]

but usually its around 620k

[frank kindle]

u can kinda use it as baseline, but try out few different rots u gonna score much better @zealous mantle
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nvBcc8GOEqM

[frank kindle]

she needs sothoth equipped

[leaden tinsel]

even when she's off field?

[zealous mantle]

oh Echo can use Guin??

[frank kindle]

any amp works

[crimson swan]

yeah

any amps r2 works

[vale raft]

Sothoth ★★★★★★

2pc Set Bonus

Nihil DMG increases by 10%.

4pc Set Bonus

Casting Phantom Annihilation grants 18/36/36/36/54 Collapse Points based on the hit count. Casting Ethereal Mirage grants 150 Phantom Points immediately. Casting Dimensional Collapse increases Base DMG of the next Signature - Silent Punishment by 100%. When hitting enemies with Hyperspace Realm as a Tank, reduces enemy Elemental Resistance based on Observation Notes. When Hyperspace Realm is active, as an Amplifier, heals allies for 8% of ATK per second and increases their Elemental DMG based on Observation Notes.

ATK

132

CRIT

66

DEF

223

HP

1491

[zealous mantle]

among the amps, who can trigger 4 Guin with [1] QTE?
all my amps are R2

[frank kindle]

@leaden tinsel ^

u can use feral for example @zealous mantle

[leaden tinsel]

so can i do 4bath 4sothot and 4dv on luna then

[leaden tinsel]

wait doesnt that mean ish needs to do a rot to shred

[crimson swan]

normally i just go 4 ele tank set 2 gloria

[woven haven]

the base QTE can shred/buff

[crimson swan]

in this case 4 bath 2 gloria and 2 something

[woven haven]

however yes the field needs a rotation to start healing/shredding

and sig mem

[frank kindle]

which isnt ideal in ppc

[woven haven]

nah ppc you just use qte anyways

the point of ish for ppc is that SS3 attacker QTE has free time to do dmg during her insta ult1 on swap