#📨・meta-help
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yes 

insane efficiency
this is fun
since dawn of time
i was born a movie critic
tho my orbs nooo
so according to this since i have SS3 lilith over SS0 vera i use lilith right? (im at SS ishmael)
For more orbs, try me
mald speedy ppc kills with vera, you will learn it fast enuff 
its easy to be honest, I started switching to SS0 Vera and instead of SS3 Lilith for how horrendous her damage is
sauce ?
scuffed score 
222 111 111 Nihil Invest using Vera and abusing dodge cancel on Luna and Vera can get me w20 if not for my potato phone keep not registering my inputs
11s chaos scorpio and 13s hell, with ss0 vera, is fine 
just wack with lucia and double qte if not ded 
what is not scuffed is my love for u bbg
wtf i got rejected
rejection
dang u got 13 hell 
when 12s
i am in shambles
I finally had the chance to use the no dodge cancel ||bug|| vera start in ppc
could be done if that effing cub key would respond and not delay my input for 0.5s 
I need deer skill for dmg cuz otherwise no kill 
deer provide dmg ?
orb
time to squeeze more reso and rank upgrades

https://youtu.be/4zcPgRRtFQg
look at this, I spam that cub key like a madman, and it still takes so long to activate 
Team investment:
[SSS] Empyrea + 6* Weapon [8% ATK + 10% ATK]
4x Guine + 2x Gloria + 2x Lantern [2 class]
Jet Jaeger [+100 ATK / +10% Fire Dmg]
[SSS] Epitaph + 6* Weapon [Shred + Echo]
4x DaVinci + 2x Einsteina + 2x Cottie [6 class]
Lingya [+60 ATK / +8% EDB / Blue Orb skill]
[SS] Geiravor + 6* Weapon [+15% ATK + Matrix]
4x Shakespeare + 4x C...
edb on swap
oh yea
tight run will need that
forgot that one
whel
wtf plot twist got sss grandpa
at least I tell it in the vid title, so no clickbait 
ye
.....I forgor how to play Ishmael
go ss3 and full r3 
reject da deer method
virus link 
fund me 
u whel
https://youtu.be/GITwAnVPT_E
this run was fun to make
who needs swap in dodge cancel anyway 
Team investment:
[SSS] Empyrea + 6* Weapon [8% ATK + 10% ATK]
4x Guine + 2x Samantha + 2x Lantern [2 class]
Jet Jaeger [+100 ATK / +10% Fire Dmg]
[SSS] Epitaph + 6* Weapon [Shred + Echo]
4x DaVinci + 2x Einsteina + 2x Gloria [4 class]
Shadow Wing [+100 ATK / +10% Fire / Grandpa skill]
[SS] Geiravor + 6* Weapon [+15% ATK + Matrix]
4x Shakespea...
thats why u the goat 
i thought this was hell for a second, and was so confused as to how a vera ult did 20 health bars
he did 13s hell though 
it does ~17 bars dmg on hell 
for dps vera, is she meant to be ablw to 2 rot offrip
I could dodge cancel but damn, my device is what my fast hands can't handle
or is it like 1 rot>swap off,
doesnt she 2 rot either way
@white oriole
since wata only 1 rot
ehhh ppc malding and shes out of orbs after the first rot
idk if im wssting em somehow
no dlt?
you need deer orb + dlt for 2 rota in ppc
ive got dlt
then deer
Sss3 Lilith or ss3 vera better for Nihil
ish, lilith, or kaleido can get it to you right away
euuuu i did it
Why does vera's CUB need to be pressed for the dodge tech?
nahh it's fine, i turned off the orb passive for attk passive without knowing
it does?
ahahahahahahaha lmao
now go 8m fire
no

vera fun in ppc, but effing fire wz with all the 3 chars doing completely different inputs in their rotas make my fingers trip all over the place 
very very fun
Can I do Nanami Burn, QTE wata, and DPS vera on fire?
uncle just wantap smh
pyro doko
not bought sadly

5 levels away till im finally honour rank uuuugh
crazy
assuming the extra shred from SSS ojisan helps
and liv is prolly running 4DV 4Guin
nahh, wata is on dv duty
liv on 4 guin + 2 gloria + 2 lantern
wata on 4 dv + 2 einst + 2 cottie

Wata should be glad pseudo gen 3 status doesn't get him benched
Why is Karen still a thing man
Now watch wata get benched before daren
daren is here to stay until 2026
Smh darren hatter
wow this guy
Must be skippers when launch
must be missing all that malding
Bold of you to assume I was there during Karen launch
the audacity to visit this sacred channel smh
bonkerina forever meta, other tanks can only dream of edr shred 
Wait I haven't seen you in a while
That or
I'm the one that isn't here tbag often anymore
he quit
Mod this person is racist to newbie plz report
Also someone explain Karen's 'tlc shred glitch' pls
I could guess as much
Surprised he's still in the server is all
go do ToA for me pls
Karenina will get a 4th frame and it'll be something like phys amp meaning she's going nowhere
i have all char just not s6 
Even my acc got piloted what do u expect
U kiwi wuwa too?
I never play it more than 1 week to begin with 
Oof
Wheres the rumor come from that i kiwi to play wuwa instead smh
hows the prep for phrololo?
Must be from rai or yommie
u want me to send evidence? 
Whats the zone for this week again
My SS+5* vera rip. With 6* wep double damage ult + Cottie 4pc dmg increases it a huge damage spike with sig
Skip then kek
Simply do 4.dv 2 guin
1 wata rot 1 vers rot 2 Lucia rot
Ez

Lucia 2 rot haha she can't
Wdym she can't
Not enough orbs to double rot
no dlt gamer?
Oh
Don't
Don't tell me
No
It can't be
6*+dlt
Dlt-less 
how tf she cant double rot
Then she can 2 ult rot
just 1s1e
Can't 2 rot on the 1st rot
huh?
just swap basic ult1 red 3 times basic hold ult hold basic then basic then eclipse ult hold basic then ult
Hold on did you watch the spider2b vid 
I know Lucia's 2 rot and I couldn't understand what you just typed
oh wait, does ss0 energy gen bricked?
I totally understood that
Oh you can't compare ss0 to ss3> pyroath
I'm SS
nah
ye im too lazy to type it the way its meant to be
Damn, im fighting SSS pyro on hero ion getting 7m, Damn
i mean, with deer u can still get it done no?
u got 7m?
the top 1, im only on top 8
I use SS+6 oath, S+5* wata 4dv+2eins, SS+5* bera 4shaks+2guni. My beggar build
7m top ion on hero SSS pyro SS3 Lilith SS3 Nana
holy rightless
what his score total and ur score total
Swap
Basic attack
Hold ult
3 red
Basic attack
Hold basic attack
Tap ult
Slash slash slash
Then eclipse ult
Red orbs
Then swap off
That's the starter rot
Every subsequent rot would be
Swap
Basic attack
Hold ult
3 x red
Basic attack
Hold ult
Hold basic attack
2 red(probably)
Tap ult
Slash slash slash
Eclipse ult
Very readable 
15m on top1 and mine only on 5m yet
i dont think u can use 4dv on wata if thats the case, u losing off field shred without alphonse
His QTE can shred
ngl 7m pretty low for 3s
I got higher score with this than alphonse
yes but it will ran out
Ohhhh heavens no My child
Watas signature memory set is important
Alphonse is a non negotiable with wata
It's his off field shred 
well he did says he got higher scores 
In PPC I ain't gona use wata
poverty ah invest
You
Probably should
Warzone is different
Maybe he doesn't want to change but man top 2 and 3 getting only 3 - 3.5m
If at all you do more than one ult to kill the enemy
The first probably should be wata
Wata's ult is not used anyways only pyro and vera
they prob did fire
Watas ult is what produces off field shred
Which
You don't have the memory for
Which
Would explain why you scored better without the memory of you aren't ulting with wata
Pyro 1 ult and vera 1 ult = ded boss
Welp
If you can 580k with it
Then tis good
maybe, its easy to get score on fire than plasma honestly, my ion only getting 2.4 while im on fire can get me to 3.1m
Not like I don't have my own wz strays that'll get me lynched on here
maybe ur ion invest not that great
its just lightning bruv, no pyro cause prio nanami
on shaper's ripple
yea plasma without pyroat is dog
Dog is understatement. It's absolute cheeks
ngl I hate this week's wz, lilith's damage so sht I switch to vera SS0 even though Lilith is SS3
which zone
getting only to w19 on nihil
I got 1.5mil nihil lol
nihil zone pretty tanky
I got uhhh
Nihil 2.4 Lilith to 2.7m w/ vera
4.2m nihil
But
I'm shunned because ss3 ish
Too poor to be like the dalaos
Used my selector to raise myself above the f2ps
Now I'm just
Alone
Yeah last time my S-ish was able to clear 4 waves by herself but she can barely reach 3 waves now can't even remove the nihil shield of 3 wave
222 111 111 invest vera supp ahahaha
Sss
?
Aw hell nah
she can clear it before the stomp if I use Luna QTE after spawn of w3
ye ss
How's my full team only scoring 200k higher
Oke I need to review my rot
You are in hero right
No luna lol. Only S ish nihil unit.
I'm not getting baited by someone in leader wz
I hope plasma can give me 5mil Or else I might be demoted from hero
Goodluck soldier o7
Damn I wonder I can't clear fast
I'm opting into fire this week to practice vera
yes
easy to get score on fire tbh
2.3 to 3.1 huge boost
why are you not running out of orbs?
Lilich is DV holder?
even dlt is not enough cause cottie's energy reduction is not enough
yea
use solo ish rot
not the great but eh
whats ur setup?
the phys score is so bad
SSS ish = Cutscene after Cutscene after Cutscene after Cutscene after Cutscene after Cutscene after Cutscene after Cutscene after Cutscene after Cutscene after Cutscene after Cutscene after Cutscene
Bruh what am I doing wrong
setup as in my team invest?
How's solo ish creeping on ss3 ish bruhhh
Even empress squeeze a 6:30 nihil ahahahaha
I enjoy it 
memo
Hype moments and aura are okay
who
Plus I gotta be quick with her inputs which I like
on you qtes
Aight gotta try
oh i forgot to mention my ish is r3 
@deft apex remember this convo?
here he stacked by himelf
then here again even though he took only 3 orbs. sometimes he doesnt too btw
Hmm
I don't think solo is better if you have bare min investment on Luna

what exactly is even the requirement to trigger his ignition
Skipping him and playing solo Nana
i dont have luna weapon its gonna be orbless luna

is there an easy hell strat for trial of simulacrums selena, I really don't want to mald on this game mode
that easy now? 
always has been
toa is not hard
if u have most of the characters its really mellow
i lose all motivation to play once i got the 5 times sss on wiwa 
can just solo 2 sides then smash the 3rd with strongest stuff
virtual crisis is harder on all mods
i cant even mald this cause my frames are so bad Dx
no wuwa wuzone for me

wait is it that bad?
i noticed theres some lag on my console, i thought it was console thing
my PC is just kinda old now
God damnit
Hai
hi ergil
Is it worth getting more copies of Qu, Lucia, Ishmael or Nanami star?
No. It's worth getting SS3 dark Bianca tho
Rotation guide for jetavie sss+
Do you enter WZ bracket when you open the UI or when you do your first run?
Becuase I'm trying to wait 2-3 days to open legend warzone to try and roll easier matchup but I accidentally opened it just now
4hanna + 4bathlon 6red 6core
Charge parry red repeating solo rot
If its all A rank team
Swap play is more worse
when u open
If I compare it to my laurel ss0 and jet sss+ who win
so dont open 
jet but laurel is old
u cant really make comparison
oh god I opened on accident gg
ARE WE DEADASS RN 😭
there's NO WAY I'm hitting 600k on shorthalt
can kuro pls nerf PPC
Dude just use Vera
Vera solos it

bro probably doesnt have gei
Then #📨・general-help
yeah but I only have like DV and Guin hypertuned on her 
WHAT
bro is cooked

Crazy
what, should I switch to hervor?
4 Shakespeare 4 Cottie
4 shake 4 cottie
why hanna?
maybe we could salvage ts 
sigless 
Dude's cooked beyond belief
I plan to pull SS3 nanami next patch lol
🥀
What's your stand here 
nah get her sig first
ARE WE DEADASS LINEAR INVESTING
Dude just the sig

Geira sig?
You can’t always supply red without opening matrix

Yes
While soloing for 2min

Selena and Geiravor sigs
wdym
Try it.
laurel is straight ass
Nvm lol
well, I alr have selena SS3 and R1 so
linear investment on soup

just pull gei sig
dude u can save up 15k for nanami next patch
Am I doing it right?
another cooked build
alr u guys better save me account
send huaxu

What should I build
bless me pulls
4 shake 2 cottie
Base S?
Primal Projection is cheese now
he looks new
Tell them to send Huaxu
i did
ye still use shakes since u need her to do dmg instead of being qte bot
No
He just brick
hell nah
Just came back tbh
yea bro is cooked
Send Huaxu
saveable
he fell for the 4 dv 4 guin propaganda
i trust
i fell for that too 
Who qte for the team
🔥
wata, 4 alphonse 4dv
No that's what she'll use post SSS or no double rot
No sig 
yea but doesnt look like hes getting sss soon
Wata on 4 DV 4 Alphonse
Geiravor on 4 Shakespeare 4 Cottie
Pyroath on 4 Heraclitus 4 Cottie
s0 no sig
Ss no sig
no dv then
use eins maybe
my Empy is powercreep proof
wait if u got wata built
ye change cottie to eins or dv(idk which better)
@obsidian dune what reso
dlt
No dv team?
but youre gonna use her as dps 100%
wata 4 sig 4 dv
even at WZ right?
Sig?
yea
do u have pyro and vera sig?
sig memory
if yes go 4davinci 2 einst waata
is uncle gonna run 4pc DV 2pc Eins withou sig now
anything else is a dps lose
Wait I don't remember what I did for Projection Chaos to get 15s
Only pyr I have dv and sig weap on empy tho
prolly onetap
then just davinci on vera
Is there even any scenario where gei needs full HT dv
s3+ build 
No


NOW I REMEMBER
she does need cottie

Pyroath doesn't exist in ppc

no need for Eins or Guin? 
what would be hell shorthalt
my wata runs 4davinci 2einst

is 20s fine on hell with 222.3 101 101 pyro, wata, vera no cub on vera
Who should I use for my fire team? S Geiravor no sig or SS Ishamel w Sig?
Nvm

I guess u could 17s with only vera
do i just keep davinci 4 2einst on wata?
put davinci on pyro?
or what 
my wata got no sig
ye iguess can use her tru
how to do flower ult with ss selena?
I did
Liv 4 guin 2san 2 eins
Wata 4sig 4dv
Vera 4 shake 4 cottie
But the invest is 223 223 which i had
But seen possible on ss3 tho iguess
I just 9hp left only on first. Era ult
U have a thin string in your core passive bar, which is slowly progresses from left to right
When it goes backwards, u can use flower ult
i had 4hp bars left
But generally afaik u don't use flower ult at ss
after 1 rot
is this possible to do with daily meta rot? or is it only for ss3 and above?
And u did 20 sec
Idk, mine is sss xd
did 16s now
with ishmael
dang :^)
Check in turorial for yourself
thanks tho
what are the other memorys i can use again just to buff
also any reliable crash courses that i can follow on youtube?
generally
most basic ppl would go look at empress
but thats just input with no explanation, u just follow
Thats nice
Im the only one who literaly just scare to use ish ap-s
oh those warzone score vids?
shold have like tutorial for each char too on that channel
well my wata got no sig so he kinda useless

Thats make sanse

Upgrade that bottom Gloria
isnt that just stats
what should i buy with norman stuff
If Lilith DPS, who's my QTE or is this pure solo? if QTE bot then who and what memo should I use? Based on my current available chara
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what's the placement for my dark team? currently are:
- blue = xxi
- red = lilith
- yellow = teddy
2 natAs and 1 natS
nvm got it
this for ppc or wz setup?
Done
ss3 hanying be like
had to do starter alisa > 2 rot selena > 2 rot hanying > alisa rot > repeat
ye thats just how empress played it right
except she does not have a lot of downtime (alisa takes too much field time for me not having sss hanying)
just alisa first rot is prep for ult, and she even uses alisa's glaco rot
also hanying misses her ult because ofc she does
idk if i wanna touch void or phys first, ion was horrendously bad
nah fk hanging
last week she even misses on huaxu
I know what I wanna touch first
U left it hanging huh

time to be no 1
number 1 has full sss though

Isn't Selena start only for 3s hanying
I tried starter alisa > 1 rot hanying > 2 rot selena > alisa > 2 rot hanying.....
somehow got lower score
either I have skill issues or my invest is scuff
Refer to the image I sent u before
With my onetaps fire scored better so if I can avoid this ass ion that's great
wait whats ur invest? dont says its 3.1 and above 

Wtf leviathan
u did co fire already?
Yea I 1 tapped it
how much? 11?
Got 11.57
fat fk
Can 12m
shakes cottie vera?
Ya
need tech? 

It's not that hard but it makes the run tighter
ok ill run the other 2 zones first, revisit later
After experimenting a little with the gifs I've finally created non disturbing ishmael sipping tea gif
Wait
Nvm
But I did make small rover yes and small rover no
Pgr eos
can I get 600k on shorthalt with SS0 R1 pyro SS0 R0 Geira and S0 uncle?
glorious afterglow on pyro then right?
I guess
well, she's rlly the main DPS lmao
can't rlly use copium anymore lmao
On second thought I probably could've used empyrea instead of lucia
wait, DPS Vera does more fire damage then Pyroath?
For guin
yes
Yes unfortunately
pyro still does nuke plasma tho
My SS0R2 vera was faster than my SS3R1 pyroath
bruh, Pyroath is only good for effect damage then
I mean
It's not like you don't use lucia at all anymore
you're bricked without pyro anyways
one ult and you can use her as QTE bot, then let uncle and Vera do their thing 
I saw how her rotations were always slow, but the numbers were bigger so I thought that it makes up for it
100 bc holy
plus, you don't even consume all the guage on pyro lmao 
gotta keep racking the TLC
its been raining for 5 days straight in our country
Ishmael is 4 Soototh 4 cotie right?
I'm so sorry I'm not skipping you Dante don't kill me
I can smell u from here, smh pipino
Yes
Had Nihility team, Vera, Ishmael and Luna, but I don't double SS any of them. Plus only had Ishmael signature
u should get kafka
nihility we bussin
pull hysilens, fugue, jiaoqiu and acheron for fun

they massacred my gurl
its nihil without the ity
Call them only nihil kinda wierd
ye thats why we call them void
Nihilitity
anyways ye just funsies thing

Nihilititty
nihiltitties
cutting board
Should I saved up for the upcoming Collab?
I'll do ib this week
its so skippable lmao
Tomorrow is suspended
I came for DMC and never imagined that I would say this
letsfakinggoooooo
Glad as I only had 20 pulls right now 
I'll whophia and changwho ib this week
well... 

I may, or may not be cooked this week
use vera dps
What's the maintenance for? Selena optimization? 
she stronk
Another loan
no clarification was given
Is there any endgame content or event I need to focus, so far I only do Warzone and Phantom pain
Ezra convinced my ass to pull her sig, thankfully i got it on 12 pity
can manage without reso right?
600 should be doable with ss0 team 
2 thicc bosses 
spent my skull savings on SS3'ing lilith 
also, is Shakespear set better on Vera then her signature set?
that was 2 weeks ago tho
I would wait for windbell or acaxi or just find a bilibili video for the rot before tackling the boss

as for me I create my own rotations 
ye windbell still in the kitchen i think
editing vid
pantes mas
today im gonna upload 3 vid

thank u so much guy with a very nice cartethyia pfp 
110 wep reso at all

inb4 ss20 shorthalt
ss20 
we need a video with no sig wata looking at how many people got wata from the selector

shorthalt sucks man
leave it to me
her signature set does not increase her personal dmg. also note that shakespeare is mostly used for that 4 piece passive of 15% shred. and the passive does not stack
I don't even have reso on geira
hope u release a 600k vid with no res 🙏
thank u 
do mine please 
well, can't stay stupid forever tho, my rotations turn out really well
musicians don't always read sheet music to play, they sometimes compose too
Vergil SS+Sig and Bianca SS+sig or no Vergil and Bianca SS3+sig?
spender?
What will SS+6* vera use for memory for Shorthalt? With SS+6* oath and S+5* dv einst epitaph?
I only buy monthly 6$
never said that u were 
4shaks and 4 cottie Or 4 guni?
u have empyrea?
didn't say that you called me stupid tho 
SS+5* empyrea
do what u want. its your account dude.
so we chill

tough, give me ur huaxu
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Poor ish
Not enough skulls and no void content so she can stay S
I have a question. Is Lucia CW with SS3 and sign weapon (no reso) stronger than Nanami SS with just 5 star weapon? Thank u
Nope
Stratrail is broken
she's kind of broken on neutral PPC
good copium tank too
I have glacio and plasma for that. Not to mention getting SSS dante
pfp checks out
for new players ishmael is great get ss r2 and u can use her in alot of groups in wz 

I kinda regret getting her.
I R2'd ish having no idea how scarce weap reso are

well, kind of worth it I guess
better then reso on ayla, 21, daren, wata
damn how come ur tank and amp not that invested 
well, I have luna so
zaza better imo
probably try empyrea 4guin 2gloria
Luna + Lilith combo is too strong
yea but if u have teams with atacker but miss amp or tank
u gonna use ishmael
right 
i have sss ayla r0 and sss ishmael r3 i use ishmael cause of reso
not gonna waste reso on old units
same reason why i dont get wata sig anymore
can just use ishmael
imagine u are a new player with old amps still on S why would u ss them instead of ishmael
for dante and vergil, do you still get 30 shards from ppc skulls or no
no
contract says no shards from shop
Cope af
just don't pull DMC (coming from a person who came for DMC)
At this point better use luna and lilith sss/ss3 r2
tbh, my sigless S0 wata is better than SS0 R2 ish somehow lmao
so I guess I use wata in those scenarios
im talking about new players
ofc its better, wata deals fire dmg 
They can just get luna instead of ish
go reread woman
go reread again
Luna alone gives a lot of value for an account
u are missing the point woman

especially the zaza, teams will feel complete with zaza Luna
read again
Ish missing sig is really meh tho
Also void without luna omegalul
i guess u cant read
Luna Wata Vera 
Luna Wanshi Lilith
just pull her sig and you're set
"can use her in a lot of groups in wz"
Using Parhelion, Lux and Noctis in a Lightning warzone
Truly recommendations of all time
Bro
U recommend ish while u can just run one elemental carry, luna and lilith and ur team is gucci
Xdd
Or nanami instead of lilith
Just say that you're too lazy to think throughoutly
does that even work?
Yes
Gera instead of pyro
lmao
Since gera has self sustain while pyro is cope af
Shorthalt 16s Chaos good?
dang even with vera dps i got barely 6m 
Why is fire team so difficult
Also u go nanami instead of lilith
want fire team to be easy? remove pyro
True
well I have SS3s and SSS so it is actually dissapointing
Hmmm
Gera luna nanami, u can score 4-5m 222 team in hero
vera is actually causing the issue, she is overkilling early waves
on legend?
yeah
just mald ion 
Ion i am fine with its 7m
@keen sable https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OJtcBtxqg3g
#punishinggrayravenglobal #vera #pgrwarzone #nanami #startrail #pgrgameplay #luna #oblivion #herowarzone #pgrglobal #pgr
Xdd
I want fire to be around 6.5m but even with SSS vera it is only 6m
are legend scores really that inflated
That is hero score
It's not about reading, your idea just sucks
i was talking about new players that dont have old tanks or amps but have ishmael already, better to ss her and get her r1-r2
Yeah
then put anything into these older units
That's sucks
luna would be better
as a new player u wont have all new units my guy
I don't think you understand what's a "new player" at all
u cant read again right
Luna + lilith/nanami/wanshi is straight up better cope version
Let's just end this already, it's going nowhere
luna is just better
im talking about a new player who got ishmael already
Ik ik u just cope that ur sss ish was good decision, but u dont need to attack everyone else who thinks otherwise
but dont have the other older tanks or amps
You're trying so hard thinking for all of this but at the same time you don't even understand exactly what you're talking about
why should they ss the older units instead of ishmael
no one is talking about luna here
If u get ish over luna first, then idk what to tell to that player
talking about new player
someone who already own Parhelion
We are, u just force worse ideas onto people
Now you're just making shi up in the spot
no way...
yea cause new players sometimes just pick ishmael
Yes way
im not making anything up
This is literally the first time you're mentioning this
no
New player will pick nanami then pyro then luna
If they pick otherwise they gotta reroll
It doesn't make any sense or any connections at all
Of course you're attacking me for not agreeing with your idea
u are dumb my guy
keep typing
reading is to hard i saw that already
i never said anything about new players need to get ishmael from standard
Too bad ish doesnt give u any value. Void = no luna no buffs; other zones? Luna + wanshi/nanami/lilith will straight up boost ur score way more than ish
U cant even use ish on field cuz she gets penalty, she cant use einsteina or gloria too
At most she uses guin+dv or soth+dv as cope replacement
If u assign tank to her, she is forced to latter
Otherwise she doesnt have shred
But ye, keep coping my man, worse ideas are just worse ideas
u still dont get it
What to get there
just go up and read again
New player should have wanshi, lilith, gera, selena, nanami and cw+feral
u and steve are the most dumb people i have met in a while
glad I played during nanami patch and got luna right away
Not me
Okay tell me then, will u score 4m with ishmael ss0, lilith ss3 and what else u gonna use, jetavie?
@keen sable
is this the point?
or this
🙏
I lowered to 4, lets give some slacc
Cuz in no way ish will let u score 4-5m in dark wz
new player
with old amp
How did it even get there in the first place
Who knows
yeah man no one knows
Luna is literal cheat code to cheapo team
Amd thats straight up fact
Hell, its so strong i score more with zaza lightning than with sss cw because cw has no resos 
theres more keep reading
?
further you started to ask for reread
Just little bit more
i guess true, but why you pull for ishmael in first place to ss her instead of other units/old amps or whatever?
What Memory for Vera in Nihil team
i never said pull ishmael, if said new player already got ishmael
If you have Oblivion properly built, Geiravor can use 4 Piece Davinci and 2 Piece Einsteina
instead of using skulls to ss old tanks amps and use bc to pull the sigs just use it on ishmael instead
i mean you imply that new player have it, but it's not very likely
i made a scenario
Nah my Oblivion still ass, none of her memory was resonance and don't had any signature, nor SS
btw is there many old amps or tanks?
I see
karen, 21, ayla, wata
You can try 4 Piece Davinci and 2 Piece Einsteina on Oblivion instead and use the Dps set for Geiravor to support Parhelion
Oblivion without a signature weapon is going to be difficult to play as a sub DPS, so you could make her as a Qte support to utilize her class passive and use Geiravor as a sub DPS instead
Thing is, u gave so specific scenario that gets easily countered by better pull aka luna
I had Ishmael signature, don't worry about it
Nice
instead of wata you can use nanami, i guess feral good at s0 as qte bot, kaleido kinda good as qte bot at s0 too
I literally pull Ishmael and her signature and was like, oh damn I need Luna. And just pull her on the standard banner selector
its not that deep
question
yeah, i mean you just dont ss them and use on s as effective as ishamel, even if you have her
do i ss feral or ss ishmael?
do u pull 21 sig or pull ishmael sig
do u reso 21 sig or ishmael sig
its not that deep
do u ss karen
or ishmael
do u ss ayla or ishmael
what sig do u pull ishmael or karen or ayla
whats all this stupid talk here
if you try to optimize then you dont ss anyone here
yea exactly
You're the one who says those things
What do you mean "exactly"
it's just that ur scenario very specific and make no sense in context of new players. Answer is you just dont ss any of them, include ishmael. But if we talk about what units better to invest, then sure newer one is safe pick
bruh just get luna then the free lilick and unga bunga anything with hypercarry team
ish only works if the other 2 teammates is very well invested
See u missing the point, he didnt invest a cent in lilith, not even one reso, all because he doesnt like her
Guy is biased and it shows

no wonder this game is eos
is it?
She is 2nd / 3rd so not far down
just watch after dmc
so there's already eos in cn?
That conversation has already ended a long time ago
not asia cn
yeah
u are just stupid mf
What are you a kid?
Bringing that up does absolutely nothing to the current conversation whatsoever
And you're doing it solely for the sake of annoys me?
Is there anything else I can improve? 
u are just a fuking dog always coming in here when i type
I'm not seeing your point in here
damn welfie bootlicker
?
i mean, i see that game need a lot of updates it's just not there, but not sure that game eos soon
It's crazy that you're getting flamed nowadays from being logical
yes
Fire team? Where's watanabe 🤡
bruh
Which is
Idk what team u use 😂
sss vera
whel-help
Bro makes vera become dps
vera is already the main dps 
this dude is on something
he might just be new 



Pyroath is main dps 🗿
Until Vera arrives
The tier list is fake?
pyroath was
vera does more dmg than pyroath 



