📨・meta-help

[orchid owl]

Far from peak but it's good

[warped axle]

the only way to pick up a skipped unit 100% guarantee is to wait next year for a basic banner check selector

[orchid owl]

Forgot about anni banner

[odd roost]

Vera is not coming get her

[orchid owl]

But it's not worth backpulling

[odd roost]

Anni only upto ish or lilith

It's tomorrow not on DMC patch

[orchid owl]

I'm aware

[warped axle]

WHAT

[orchid owl]

We were talking theoretically, and the time lines up "next year"

[odd roost]

The guy said he'll get Vera later

Later means only on 70% rate up

July 16 global anniversary

[white oriole]

What is 232 Hero Ice score this time?

[cobalt prawn]

its taking me 11s to kill fu shen with ss3 selena on knight difficulty...

surekly i can go faster

[odd roost]

Click ur buttons faster

Easy

[cobalt prawn]

89184

maybe i just save it it literally doesn't matter xD

[warped axle]

bro is not getting 90k

[cobalt prawn]

14s on chaos

literally just 1 flower ult ughhhh

620k I'll take it

[rose yew]

Ppc minmaxers

[normal sierra]

the rota is:
swap in > 3 ping > hold basic > 3 ping > ult1 > hold dodge > ult2
this is 10s if you need the ult2 to kill, 9s if you can kill with hold dodge only

[formal radish]

My wantap was 4.9m

You can get over 5m if you tried a little bit harder

[normal sierra]

paniville working now, but I can't find the last thing, stuck on 19/20

ohh bruh, the share icon is counted as one, wutdaheck

[formal radish]

Where is that paniville whatever

[lament yoke]

Whats legend ice score this week? Ss invest

[formal radish]

Omg...

I'd say about 5m

[lament yoke]

[formal radish]

Full 222?

[lament yoke]

And what about hero

[formal radish]

Idk

[lament yoke]

Both
232 and 222

[formal radish]

I'm not broke

[lament yoke]

K whel

[formal radish]

223 yeah about low 5m maybe

For hero might be a bit lower

[lament yoke]

Yours is 2.333 invest right?

[normal sierra]

https://paniniville.kurogames-global.com/index.html
you can only do it on pc with some workaround cuz dumbo kusogame made the site mobile-exclusive for some weird reason

[white oriole]

4.6 wantap... I see

[sly geyser]

why we haven't got an announcement about this ?

[normal sierra]

we got, even in the game... with a link that... doesn't even work
gut job, kusogames

it's just 100 yellow ticket + some serum and cogz btw

[sly geyser]

[pine slate]

Can skip then

[worldly hornet]

The goddamn link isn't opening

[noble zinc]

[wintry parcel]

Last time I checked 232 Ice team can get 5 million in hero

Can be 500.000 or 1 million higher in Legend

[pine slate]

So 233 is still 6.5+

[wintry parcel]

It can vary depending on the resonance I guess

[noble zinc]

6.2+

6.6-7 should be cap

unless you go really unlucky on breakpoints cuz of R1 stuff

[pine slate]

[golden inlet]

Alr managed to build vera and watanabe

So we chilling

Even managed to get their 5 star

Sadly not 6 yet broke from just pulling for vera

But good news i can save for dmc and binaca yay

[pine slate]

[noble zinc]

[sly geyser]

wait a sec did you get all the 20 pulls !?

cannot find the last one

fk

I hope we ain't missing the 2.5k tix bc of this garbage event

[cold walrus]

cn got 5k tickets in bianca patch because of bili pc client. guess what kuro is preparing for global

[sly geyser]

nothing ofc

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/936177246018895882/1322031512710811760/1263735698985586709.gif

[normal sierra]

100 yellows for us, take it or leave

[normal sierra]

it's the damned share icon btw

[sly geyser]

wth

[normal sierra]

ye, I had the same reaction lul

[sly geyser]

I would've never guess

Ok now that I got everything I have to copy 20 codes ?

[normal sierra]

yes. peak event, am I right?

[sly geyser]

higher u die frfr

[shrewd cosmos]

I'm prob gonna be publicly executed for this. What cub should I get next

[sly geyser]

I cannot even remember cub names

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/936177246018895882/1322031512710811760/1263735698985586709.gif

my brain's dedge

[shrewd cosmos]

Basically got luna, Ishmael, Selena and Nana's cub

and pyro form before

[opaque ridge]

Where the sig rolls at

[shrewd cosmos]

.... Dead as hell. These are all from normal + 500 BC I spent cuz I got bored

Imma roll on sig rn

[odd roost]

You r not gona like it

[sly geyser]

got bored play another game smh

but hey at least 4 S rank cubs

can't complain

go for vera's cub now

[shrewd cosmos]

Got base 5 star wep 3 times

[opaque ridge]

[shrewd cosmos]

27 pity

[opaque ridge]

Where the red name at

[sly geyser]

holup

let him cook

[shrewd cosmos]

Well, tmmrw I'm broke and don't wanna grind

Unless there an easy way to get BC rn

[formal radish]

Weak

[opaque ridge]

U can grind in pgr?

[shrewd cosmos]

Alr

[sly geyser]

bc is easy to get ?

[odd roost]

My luck is ending

[shrewd cosmos]

I don't wanna do events 😭 🙏

[sly geyser]

wth is luck?

[shrewd cosmos]

Fire

[sly geyser]

I only know lock

[sand laurel]

kurover

[heavy marlin]

Should i get hanying next patch in 100% banner or get her in the selector that are upto nanami I'm at 3 pity.

Nvm just going to get her at 100% banner

[rugged pebble]

Selector up to nanami

[formal radish]

WAIT THEY ADDED PITY BEFORE 10 PULLS

[versed oxide]

Wait next patch hanying is coming?!!

[sly geyser]

bro played the game since 2020

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/936177246018895882/1322031512710811760/1263735698985586709.gif

[muted zenith]

so uhh, how do i 3 ping these ? /s

[sly geyser]

btw @normal sierra is this damn event one time only ? or will we get another map tomorrow

[sly geyser]

looks like there's only those violet looks balls

[heavy marlin]

I mean i already draw 3 times

[normal sierra]

no idea. it didn't say anything about that in the description under that "!" menu
guess we will see in a few hours

[sly geyser]

if they coded that all web app just for us to use it once

that's gonna be funny ngl

[sand laurel]

blue/purple orbs? its a trap!

[white oriole]

Seems like that lol

[cold walrus]

is that you?

[versed oxide]

Why are you among them

[cold walrus]

cuz i don't want to demote

[sly geyser]

dang bro defending legend with 8m

but wheling for skins

[versed oxide]

Skins are permanet

Legend isnt

[cold walrus]

waifu>meta

[sly geyser]

k fair enough

[versed oxide]

Quick question
This ranking is local?

Or random chosen among the server and grouped up

[sand laurel]

I still havent done plasma (2/3 zones done)

[last blade]

is 11s clear wanshi sss possible for emperor knight stage???

[versed oxide]

No

[last blade]

o bru

[quiet lily]

bracket is chosen by time u click on wz itself

[sly geyser]

I hope u planning to do another 8m cuz dang that's low

[last blade]

i got 15 what rot do i do

[quiet lily]

10

[versed oxide]

So is there any chances that i make bunch of accounts and play against myself?

[sand laurel]

nah, Im gonna guun in gfl2 instead

[sly geyser]

well I ain't judging

[versed oxide]

Aint judging
Proceeds to judge

[sand laurel]

I could mald but 2 other gacha games that I play are getting new patches tomorrow

[normal sierra]

https://youtu.be/nWH1TPMUmSY
yes, 10s is best he can do there

[quiet lily]

nope, bcs the rules itself. for example for hero bracket, top 2 promote to legend bracket, bottom (idk how many) gets demoted to leader bracket

[sly geyser]

ZZZ and BB ?

[versed oxide]

What if i pay them hefty cash to demote for me so i can be legend with 100k score

[quiet lily]

what if u use that cash and whale urself so u can be in legend with 100m score?

[sand laurel]

Cecily would like to speak with you

[versed oxide]

I still got skill issue unless im paying another person to make combos for me

[sly geyser]

why not wheling with that cash instead

[sand laurel]

what if they hate p2w ingame?

[quiet lily]

its never too late to practice and learn

[sly geyser]

what if they're just wasting their time

[quiet lily]

fk whel

[versed oxide]

I have a iq of 55

[sand laurel]

bribe = p2w outside of the game

[quiet lily]

iq isnt static numbers brother

[sly geyser]

this chat is so monochromatic

[sand laurel]

[versed oxide]

[sand laurel]

I’ll let Karen puke and it be rainbows again

[sly geyser]

all of us just refused to get those cosmetic roles

that's kinda funny

[quiet lily]

ohh lmaoo i just realized that

[versed oxide]

What are the roles

[shy jackal]

Bruh I had to do some weirdge ass zaza for emperor 16s

What no ayla 3s does to a mf

[sly geyser]

bruh bro broke the cycle

[normal sierra]

look, this guy ruined our white supremacy

[quiet lily]

[shy jackal]

Mb

[versed oxide]

Thank you for giving the privilege to be white

[sand laurel]

accidental racism

[versed oxide]

It was hard being bla-

[cold walrus]

isolate and remove him

[normal sierra]

[sly geyser]

I'm on light theme so...

u all black guys

[quiet lily]

light theme....

[versed oxide]

You like being grouped by blacks?

[versed oxide]

I mean black theme guys

[sly geyser]

nah I'm light them lover

[versed oxide]

I think you will love a 6ft handsome man who uses black theme

Speaking of black, how do i switch the theme in game to low power mode

[exotic fulcrum]

Yo Guys, Hervor or Cottie suits better for Vera?

[versed oxide]

The wedding theme, is too bright i prefer low battery mode but cant switch

[sly geyser]

low battery mode is available on PC?

[versed oxide]

No idea, it is but cant switch

[quiet lily]

just lower ur brightness

[versed oxide]

I wont be able to combo😔

[sand laurel]

neither, its kuriko

[normal sierra]

you a fellow slim cow haver, I see
mine on a forever ss3 diet too

[exotic fulcrum]

I saw Ppl Recommending Hervor over Kuriko

DPS Vera for Simulated Siege

[quiet lily]

who tf recommend hervor lmao

[sand laurel]

S+ vera dogs

[quiet lily]

its either shakes cottie or dv guin

[exotic fulcrum]

A certain WZ video. He said Hervor's Orbs can be useful at SS0

[quiet lily]

mix it up based on that

[quiet lily]

where vid

might be something that i missed

[exotic fulcrum]

Ig it was Smose

He shared it

[normal sierra]

hervor only useful if you solo field her
If you play swap, it's just a bricc set to use

[versed oxide]

Need s3 for that no?

[exotic fulcrum]

Yeah I was asking for Solo Vera

[sly geyser]

smose misinfo

[shy jackal]

She too old to invest in now

[ruby onyx]

is CW atk+ variant on upper res. and sig on lower res.?

[sand laurel]

you did not asked about solo

[sly geyser]

basic attack on top

[versed oxide]

Dont

[sly geyser]

nah let him cook

[exotic fulcrum]

My Bad, I did mention only DPS

[sand laurel]

you did not

[ruby onyx]

upper res. basic and lower res. atk+ var.?

[sly geyser]

signature move

[exotic fulcrum]

@sand laurel

[sand laurel]

ah its this thing here…

[exotic fulcrum]

Need Siege points, that's why

[sand laurel]

lmao

[quiet lily]

basic + sig

[ruby onyx]

huh? upper res. basic atk and lower res. sig?

[normal sierra]

I wouldn't use hervor in siege either cuz we get a carpton of free orbs there anyway

[sly geyser]

yes

[sand laurel]

I completely overlooked that information as soon as I seen its for sim siege

[sly geyser]

people malding gb ?

dang

[sand laurel]

I guess its solo vera guuun battle

[normal sierra]

I'm pretty sure someone out there malding this awful, boring card game too
people mald anything nowadays if they fancy it

[sly geyser]

that card game is so shite

[sand laurel]

I had enough of card games, wuwa and pgr having it at the same time

[rose yew]

Malds simulated trial

[sand laurel]

I’d say pgr’s card games is little bit less balanced but wuwa card game was more fun

if I had time to mald it would be wz

ppc is not my cup of tea and gb is just warmup to me

[sand laurel]

there is always a guy on the internet for everything

[quiet lily]

i dont understand how the card game work

too many small letters its hard to read

[sand laurel]

its orb system turned into card game

[quiet lily]

then how to trigger matrix

[sand laurel]

I did not read

[tame sleet]

Can ishmael be a placeholder tank over scire in the dark team?

[sand laurel]

and I did the event without dying

[quiet lily]

my orb goes brryybb

[sand laurel]

there could been like hard challenge mode

theres only like infinite mode but thats not really fun to me

[normal sierra]

https://youtu.be/NorSdDwGRtg?t=479
here, another card game for you
whenever I see card games, I remember the ones I made

[sand laurel]

nah, I bought slay the spire boardgame that I play

sts and balatro is all I play

thinking about picking up Morimens, I heard its gud

[normal sierra]

making card games is definitely more fun than playing them

[sand laurel]

I like sts mods

slowly working on my mecha char cards for sts

it be only physical though

but anyways, what pgr offered is very easy and lightweight card game event, and thats good because thats not the focus of this game and people would be mad and look up tutorials how to beat it if wasnt braindead

[tawdry mural]

hi chat i dont talk here much but who do i get here? im pretty new

[mighty tusk]

everyone there is obsolete so pick whoever you like

[normal sierra]

but there is no animation speed up or skip, makes some stages take an eternity to do
if someone really malds that neverending mode, he will spend hours and hours waiting for those animations to play out

[sand laurel]

wuwa’s card game animations are worse

funny thing is that people want to play wuwa card game pvp when there are FTK decks

btw I have finished wuwa card game on 3 accounts, and pgr card game on 2

[tawdry mural]

how do i exit this

oops wrong channle

[sand laurel]

you also refuse to give her hand?

reject Lucia , embrace Karenina

[sand laurel]

jokes aside, have you tried to click this?

[tawdry mural]

yes i just did i didnt see it bc for some reason everything is so bright

its cooking my eyes

[sand laurel]

the only thing she can cook

[mighty tusk]

you dont
and she'll kiss you whether you like it or not

[sand laurel]

close the app or alt+f4

shkikan safe

[mighty tusk]

the cutscene still plays once you enter again right?

[sand laurel]

you just dont enter

[mighty tusk]

also these cutscenes are so long

[versed oxide]

Guys they should fix the ppc
Seconds where after you kill
It just stuck there

[sand laurel]

hamlet?

[hybrid goblet]

yall

[mighty tusk]

hamlet is not in ppc rn though

[hybrid goblet]

shukra ss3 or wata ss3?

[zenith thorn]

prolly the 2s delay

[zenith thorn]

wata ss3 is good

you can ss3 shukra in new bianca patcg

[ruby onyx]

where do u see everyone's rec. memory res.?

[zenith thorn]

use the bot
/build frame:

[ruby onyx]

oh right, i forgot lmao

[bitter locust]

Pyroath or vera

[zenith thorn]

yes

[zenith thorn]

context?

[bitter locust]

Yes

I have both but idk which to use

[zenith thorn]

fck you mean
just elaborate more

[bitter locust]

Oh I thought u ment sum else

Mb

[zenith thorn]

they are both fire units

vera is the fire sub dps and buffer while lucia is the main dps

[bitter locust]

Which char for the 3rd slot

Or do I just use some tank

[zenith thorn]

nanami startrail works

nanami holds 4sig4shake iirc

then do her burn affix rotation (do the tutorial )

[keen sable]

in fire content

vera is the main dps

vera deals the most dmg right now if u have her sig

lucia needs her sig to function so u can skip veras

u just miss out on alot of dmg

[ocean dust]

what does the dark red glow thing mean? my other sig doesnt do that

[keen sable]

harmonized weapon

[ocean dust]

ok so i unlocked bianca sig harmo at one point but never put a memory set there, great

[keen sable]

[rose yew]

[sand laurel]

[lean plinth]

if i fully do norman once, will I be able to autoclear all of it? or upto a certain level

[crystal rune]

only 12/18

[ocean dust]

the 6th zone is cancer, never cleared it once

[crystal rune]

honestly need fully built main dps and its easy clear

[clear plinth]

does geiravor resonance core passive or ult?

[radiant panther]

Just wanna flex the bracket in Hero ehehehe

[lean plinth]

oh right im only pioneer, im having huge problems trying to clear norman, im stuck at bollie deep mine and just cannot clear it

[clear plinth]

yes i have no wata so ishmael is my fire tank and i need someone else to rotate with pyroath

[lean plinth]

this is a flex? :(

not tryna diss you but.

[crystal rune]

for dps reso ult, sub dps reso class

[ocean dust]

flex for non payer. normally 7 mil per stage would be a flex

[crystal rune]

7mill f2p

[lean plinth]

but I'm f2p and i get 3-4 mil on an average?

[ocean dust]

idk how far it goes for each zone

[clear plinth]

so in a pyroath/geiravor/ish team its class skill?

[crystal rune]

ice and lightning probably get 4mill

plasma up to 7

[crystal rune]

does your geira have sig?

[twilit haven]

What is epitaph’s ideal memory set for flame

[clear plinth]

no but im close to it

my pyroath is R3 and so is my Ish

[crystal rune]

once you get sig you do 4shakes 4 cottie resonate dlt and she becoes main dps

[ocean dust]

yea if you play for long enough, you get full teams so that sounds about right

[crystal rune]

thats just affix

[lean plinth]

ohhh i see

[ocean dust]

plasma is so overtuned, i got 3 mil without using nanami rotation and memory sets

what about whales

[crystal rune]

yea only legend

[radiant panther]

its an easy 6m bracket tbh

[ocean dust]

ive seen 16 mil in hero but not higher

probably fell from legend

[peak halo]

Hero is to paper

[radiant panther]

What Im hoping for is staying here in Hero cause its a pain on Legend warzone plus my Elemental Team are not ready yet

[peak halo]

Yesterday i 1 taped a w38 light and its just 7.2m

[ocean dust]

yea i only started getting hero after accelerated schedule began

[rain anchor]

whats vera's reso slot?

[solar creek]

Should I choose epitaph or Shukra for selector

[trail stump]

What memo reso should I go for Solacetune? Now that Selena is here

[crystal rune]

class

[trail stump]

Cool thanks

[rain anchor]

vera class skill too?

[crystal rune]

depends on team

[rain anchor]

my pyro and wata ss3

[peak halo]

Depends
Shake vera is ult

[rain anchor]

oh i forgot to ask whats her best like optimal build

dps or support

[crystal rune]

that really depends on team invest, with sig vera runs 4shakes 4cottie

[radiant panther]

Should I Shake Cottie my CW when standard memo set (Heisen Build) nanami and 4DV4Guin Feral?

[rain anchor]

then wata build if vera runs shakes cottie?

[crystal rune]

4alph 4dv

[radiant panther]

3.0 invest CW

[peak halo]

Shake cottie what?

[radiant panther]

The memo set just testing something up

[ripe stag]

@steady otter just realised

WE GOT 3 KNIGHTS

[pine slate]

assuming ss r1, dps

[rain anchor]

yup will get her weapon

also does wata still need dlt if hes one rot? can i change his reso to something else?

[still moat]

no need balter fdodge

[crystal rune]

nope, DD

[pine slate]

no

https://youtu.be/k4GNxsGm0b4?si=URZG5z0o7Z4FghpN

here's fire rot

[modern tulip]

what to run for qte bot hanying if she holds 4 dav and 2 catherine dont think 4 catherine does anything right

[twilit haven]

Is there a guide for how to play the fire team

[radiant panther]

Damn, its a pain having no Ultima Leap Skill on Balter :sadge:

[opaque ridge]

Balter?

[rain anchor]

so i reso vera with signature since dps?

[radiant panther]

Bianca Stigmata

[bold ferry]

I have 1 usb only should i reso pyroath sig i just got?
Or wait until i get selena sig next one

[opaque ridge]

Stigmata?

[rain anchor]

no i meant like memory reso

[opaque ridge]

Brother, i play china server, i don’t know what stigmata mean

[bold ferry]

Help plz idk what to do

[radiant panther]

I play Global

[opaque ridge]

What her name in china?

[crimson swan]

Anyone has emperor reference run?

[opaque ridge]

Altria?

[rain anchor]

goodbye liv, u will be missed

[quiet lily]

invest?

[radiant panther]

This:

[crimson swan]

Ss0 r1 shukra sss r1 wanshi and off ele amp

[radiant panther]

Let me back to my dailies

[quiet lily]

what rank for off ele amp?

[ripe stag]

How much does SS3 Hanying shreds ?

Both Def and Res

[opaque ridge]

Use ur serum

[crimson swan]

Ss3 r2 ish

[opaque ridge]

300/240

[light sluice]

Sss r0 wanshi for resonance bottom should I use signature move or tank class?

[radiant panther]

Just finishing getting all those serum vials first before spending

[crimson swan]

Amp is whatever i can use s0 sig ayla lol

But i dont think ein buff is more than r2

[quiet lily]

refer espada then

[viscid junco]

What is hangyings meta team?

[quiet lily]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xk4k5wIPK2M

[light sluice]

Aight thanks

[wintry parcel]

Get signature move resonance for general uses

[formal radish]

Wait who's the other boss besides veronica and emprrror

[quiet lily]

poria

[wintry parcel]

Fushen?

[wintry parcel]

What's a poria

[formal radish]

I might do ib info

[viscid junco]

I thought bianca was part of it no? im f2p so i dont have selena

[formal radish]

Maybe

[quiet lily]

fushen = poria

[wintry parcel]

Oh

I didn't know that

[formal radish]

If I'm late from class tho...

[rain anchor]

this setup correct?

[wintry parcel]

Are you skipping her or what, her banner is still available right now

[pine slate]

i put wata on blue

[formal radish]

It's alright

[viscid junco]

So bianca hangying and echo is fine?

[light sluice]

Ss R2 shukra, I have dlt and glorious. Is it better for me in warzone if I change the glorious to matrix lightning

[formal radish]

I still have pyro on red

[viscid junco]

yea i skip

[formal radish]

I mean blue what the hell am i saying

[wintry parcel]

No

Glorious Afterglow is the best 2nd resonance for any Attacker

[dapper monolith]

Who should I use in my Ice team? SS3 Wanshi, SS Obliv and?

[wintry parcel]

Matrix lightning only has very few usages, and it's limited to Phantom Pain Cage most of the time

[crimson swan]

Alright thanks

[wintry parcel]

Daemonissa I guess?

What is it like
Solo dps Lucid Dreamer?

[dapper monolith]

ye

I don't have Qu and my Kaleido is not invested

[light sluice]

What's advance rotation for ice team? I'm a bit struggle in warzone

[dapper monolith]

Except Lilith, can I use Wata? I already used Lilith on ppc so yeah

my Wata si SS3 with def shred

[wintry parcel]

Pointless

What you're looking for from Daemonissa is her elemental buff on heal

[dapper monolith]

oh

[wintry parcel]

Lucid Dreamer is already able to reduce the enemies elemental resistance by his attack himself

[dapper monolith]

who should I use then?

[wintry parcel]

Putting him along with epitaph will do absolutely nothing from Epitaph

[wintry parcel]

Any Amplifier works

[rain anchor]

bro vera dmg is

[wintry parcel]

Anyone that can heal

[rain anchor]

absolutely crazy

[candid saddle]

Hello, just got an s rank selector from the new event, who should I choose for the dmc Collab?
I already have Nanami Star rail.

[dapper monolith]

Can Ish work?

[wintry parcel]

Yes

[dapper monolith]

alright then

[wintry parcel]

She will become an Amplifier in this team

[dapper monolith]

what's her mem set

[wintry parcel]

4 Piece Guinevere and 4 Piece Samantha

Samantha is a 5 star memories

Oblivion will be using 4 Piece Davinci and 2 Piece Einsteina

[ivory oasis]

does anyone know who was the best ice wz rotation in youtube? ss3 wanshi and ss qu

[sand laurel]

watanablue

[crystal rune]

watch firefly or smth

[wary thicket]

How are y'all rotating in plasma ppc
Lilith ult to plasma or let her charge it and lucia does hold blue plasma

[sand laurel]

https://tenor.com/eFKgFXGtc2D.gif

[wintry parcel]

This probably will work

https://youtu.be/qDNYnWSLmpw?si=3X_agwCDXbBBMUEo

[dapper monolith]

Am confused, someone told me in the past that my Luna Ice Support will hold 4x Chen Jiyuan, 2x Gloria and 2x Eins. And btw my Ish doesn't have her sig

[rose yew]

random misinformation pop up

[dapper monolith]

so 4x dav and 4x eins?

[ripe stag]

Lootbar is illegal

[hoary dagger]

i don't think he can follow my run without 3s ayla

[wintry parcel]

What the

[rose yew]

Apparently it's alright where I am

[wintry parcel]

You don't have Lucid Dreamer signature weapon or something?

[sand laurel]

is it on server rules?

[dapper monolith]

So in summary:
Luna: 4 Dav, 2 Eins and 2 Gloria
Ish: 4x Samantha and?

[quiet lily]

surely +1s meta works if he use vera as amp

[dapper monolith]

I'll get it

[wintry parcel]

So you don't have it right now

[dapper monolith]

ye

[wintry parcel]

That make sense

[dapper monolith]

Why

[hoary dagger]

surely :clueless:

[dapper monolith]

I thought it only boost his dmg

[sand laurel]

like some people do lootbar sponsored videos

[dapper monolith]

ye

[wintry parcel]

If you have Lucid Dreamer signature weapon, with the Harmony upgrade he can equip 4 Piece Chen Jiyuan by himself

You don't need to put it on Oblivion

[dapper monolith]

oh ok

[wintry parcel]

And in that case Oblivion can equip more support memories

But if you don't, someone else has to use it

[dapper monolith]

I'll see if I can get his sig

[wintry parcel]

So it'll be something like
Lucid Dreamer:
4 Piece Liston 2 Piece Chen jiyuan
Oblivion: 4 Piece Chen jiyuan 2 Piece Einsteina
Parhelion: 4 Piece Davinci 2 Piece Guinevere

[dapper monolith]

alright thx

[wintry parcel]

Don't attempt to pull for his signature weapon if you don't have enough pulls for it

[dapper monolith]

Before this, should I get Ish or his?

[wintry parcel]

It's not worth it just for this occasion

[dapper monolith]

oh

[wintry parcel]

Honestly, Parhelion would benefit you better in general

[dapper monolith]

aight thx so much for help

[wintry parcel]

Not just for the Ice team

Like Lucid Dreamer

[frank kindle]

What u use it for

Why ish and luna

[ashen parcel]

Hey guys did you know hervor Level 4 works on other characters other than Vera

[frank kindle]

And not lilith and luna tf

[wintry parcel]

Hervor?

[vale raft]

Hervor ★★★★★★

2pc Set Bonus

ATK increases by 5%. Fire DMG and Darkflow DMG increase by 5%.

4pc Set Bonus

Gains 3 bonus Blue Orbs after casting Scorched in Void. Doubles the bonus Absolute Pyre duration granted by pinging a set of Red Orbs.

ATK

132

CRIT

66

DEF

223

HP

1491

[wintry parcel]

Doesn't seem like it

[frank kindle]

It doesnt

Its signature memory for gera only

[simple dew]

scorched in void

[wintry parcel]

Scorched in Void is Geiravor unique skills

No other character has that skill

[ashen parcel]

it does i just tested it

[frank kindle]

https://tenor.com/view/facepalm-really-stressed-mad-angry-gif-16109475

[simple dew]

show

[wintry parcel]

The 2 Piece set bonus will certainly work

But not the 4 Piece set bonus

[ashen parcel]

Give me a moment brb

[sand laurel]

what are you?

[sweet sorrel]

between wanshi and lillith who's more worth investing above sss?

[odd roost]

Sleep

[sweet sorrel]

i have both at sss3...got some extra voucher to make another upgrade

[odd roost]

Save for new dorm chara?

[dapper monolith]

what's another 2x piece for Luna? I have her harmonized

[wintry parcel]

Probably Daemonissa?

[dapper monolith]

Gloria?

[pine slate]

What u guys getting on ice with 233 invest

[sweet sorrel]

by the time next dorm char comes i'll have enough for 3s

[wintry parcel]

Lucid Dreamer is the dps for the Ice team currently

But the Ice team itself is not doing great so far based on their score compared with the other team

[odd roost]

Choose the one you like playing the most then

[wintry parcel]

Yes that will work

[sweet sorrel]

wanshi it is then

[wintry parcel]

4 Piece Chen Jiyuan 2 Piece Gloria and Einsteina set as the Harmony

[frank kindle]

Jesus what are those memories

[odd roost]

Good choice

[frank kindle]

[wintry parcel]

He doesn't have Lucid Dreamer signature weapon to use 4 Piece Chen jiyuan on him

[simple dew]

what is this copium fkr

[wintry parcel]

So someone else has to bring it

[frank kindle]

Then wanshi is ein holder

[wintry parcel]

It's a Solo dps Lucid Dreamer

[odd roost]

I was wondering why einstein? On luna

[wintry parcel]

No Shurka available

[odd roost]

Shouldn't ein be on ayala?

[ashen parcel]

Nevermind i was mistaking 2 different effects thinking something was overlapping trick of the...Eyes? Mind?

I thought i was seeing a bug

[peak halo]

Luna could do that coz convert everyting to universal buff/debuff

[wintry parcel]

He's using Lucid Dreamer Solo dps with Oblivion and Parhelion as Qte support

Parhelion will become an Amplifier in this team setup

[wintry parcel]

Also this

[pine slate]

No

[frank kindle]

Wanshi sig + ein
Luna ele + dv
Lilith sam + guin

[pine slate]

That's her class skill, not her leader skill

[peak halo]

No no need to be leader
Its her class passive.

[frank kindle]

[odd roost]

Luna deals void damage bruh

[wintry parcel]

It doesn't matter who equips the Einsteina set, if Oblivion is in the team anyone that applies the resistance reduction will be an Universal resistance reduction

Except a Physical unit I guess

[frank kindle]

It does matter because u can get in another set on amp

Holy

[true pivot]

me me sour cream

[wintry parcel]

I'm just saying it wasn't as restricted as before for the use of Einsteina set

[deft apex]

[simple dew]

imagine using this crazy copium

[frank kindle]

[true pivot]

i wonder hows glacio vs cope ice

[frank kindle]

Considering u lose whole 1.0 multipiler, probably not enough

[still moat]

doesnt matter, the eins debuff will be converted because of luna

[frank kindle]

But if u put ein on wanshi u can get in additional set for more dmg

[odd roost]

So her Passive also works on memories

Ok. I thought it was only kit specific

[peak halo]

She only not converts stage buffs
But everything which caracterkit/ memory stuff its converted

[true pivot]

she converts all elemental type buffs and debuffs to a universal type.

[heavy marlin]

How to use the time command for ex-ppc

[keen sable]

did they add a new physical boss?

[quiet lily]

/time hell 9

[frank kindle]

19m at hell. Skych

Fushen 10m hell

[keen sable]

ye and that is kinda ass

[frank kindle]

U better praise the lord theres no 30m phys for now

[keen sable]

cant wait for new physical unit so my balter can rest

[frank kindle]

There wont be new attacker for a while

[keen sable]

dont need atacker

tank or amp and we good

they all do alot of dmg anyway

[frank kindle]

Or just cope with 1 rot virgin

[keen sable]

just look what happened with pyro on fire with vera release

[keen sable]

im not pulling since im never pulling collab sigs

no reason to get him in the first place

[frank kindle]

If u have selena and can cope ts ppc with it sure

At worst u switch to plasma

[steady otter]

@ripe stag lemme remake that one

Cuz that vid has wrong memory sets & a bit slow

[frank kindle]

Windlao cookin

@true pivot when u joining?

[steady otter]

My Wata SS6

[keen sable]

i will see how its gonna be with ss3 hanying and sss3 balter

TS the only affix thats not on a timer when u proc it right?

[mighty tusk]

how many event tix are in that event?

[odd roost]

Quason. For Dante team should I put 2pc guni Or 2pc Einst? On vera

[odd roost]

I figure we get like 10 event pulls from that

[forest knot]

Darkflow will not be on a timer

[keen sable]

[true pivot]

about 6 - 7 hours later

[frank kindle]

[wise mango]

Do epitaph ult shred fire def? or i can use him as a qte and he will be as good as with him onfield?

[ripe stag]

Wait fr?

I COPIED YOU

10/11/12

REEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE

[frank kindle]

Lmao

[worldly hornet]

[analog coral]

how does 3s change wanshi rota

[muted zenith]

anyway i can improve my ice score?

SSS r3 wanshi SSS qu r2 SSS ayla r2
i do 3 rots with wanshi always

Hero wz

[gusty shale]

https://tenor.com/view/morning-morning-coffee-morning-cat-coffee-cat-bad-hair-cat-gif-15321813803706352483

[formal radish]

Use an SSS qu rot

[sly geyser]

2500

[steady otter]

Im still a human

[muted zenith]

which is?

[steady otter]

https://media.discordapp.net/attachments/843719318391095307/1055505373701881856/sad.gif

[muted zenith]

whats the SSS Qu rot?

[half dome]

Qu needs DLT?

[ripe stag]

Someone who has damage hax ? Yea no

You aren't

[formal radish]

I have no idea

[ripe stag]

Ye for warzone

[formal radish]

I don't have SSS qu so I don't bother to learn it

[steady otter]

https://tenor.com/view/wuwa-carlotta-cheecks-squeeze-squishy-gif-2882428430083543852

[gusty shale]

AWWWWW

https://tenor.com/view/phrolova-wuwa-gif-16230898506772645494

I’m on 35 pity got 30 wish saved up and on guaranteed

[sly geyser]

wth

wuwa-help

[keen sable]

[gusty shale]

Yeah so I got 600k on it

[formal radish]

Cooked

[gusty shale]

Bc I refuse to build and play my only frost 5 star character

[formal radish]

5 star

[sly geyser]

frost?

[formal radish]

[gusty shale]

Yk what I mean

[muted zenith]

wait how does 1 single tap fill up Qu entire bar?????

[keen sable]

get 3s

[sly geyser]

we got frost characters in this game?

[formal radish]

Idk read her kit

[muted zenith]

I HAVE HER SSS

[formal radish]

Glaciation

[sly geyser]

[keen sable]

[gusty shale]

Dang

[hasty badge]

whats the best time I can achieve on fushen
SS selena r1
SS echo r2
SS hanying r1

[quiet lily]

fk whel

[gusty shale]

DAYUM BUDDY ALR

[muted zenith]

i m not a whale

[quiet lily]

4 cottie SSS Qu
1st ult:
Swap > 1 ping > dodge cancel > hold BA > matrix ping cancel > hold dodge > ult 1 > 3p > ult 2
2nd ult:
3p + 1p > dodge cancel > hold BA > 3p cancel > dodge cancel > hold BA > ult 1 > 3p > ult 2
3rd ult same as 2nd

[gusty shale]

Yes u are

[sly geyser]

that's what they all say

[worldly hornet]

Hi, guys...
Who has the correct ice wz rotation?...
SSS R1 Wanshi
SS3 R1 Qu
SSS R1 Ayla

[quiet lily]

have fun, all dodge cancel must be input along with movement key to avoid her dodging backwards

[sly geyser]

wth

[formal radish]

I'm this close to R3'ing Lilith...

[muted zenith]

wait 4 cottie for SSS QU I was using Ji Boan and Chen Jiyuanm

[quiet lily]

ewww thats for peasant, we 3s qu use cottie

[formal radish]

I have Balter, Feral, CW, and Lamia sig which one should I eat

[sly geyser]

whel but still bricked

[gusty shale]

LMAO

[quiet lily]

balter

[sly geyser]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/936177246018895882/1322031512710811760/1263735698985586709.gif

[muted zenith]

ohh alright ill go build her

does it show up on the /build?

[formal radish]

Byebye boltar

[gusty shale]

Bro what is ur pfp😭

[quiet lily]

not sure, i think yes i think not

[sly geyser]

wth bot copy pasta

[quiet lily]

ye nope

[muted zenith]

bot is f2p friendly lol

[gusty shale]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/1279939366684332042/1326991857972019211/attachment.gif

[quiet lily]

poverty bot

[formal radish]

Should I r3 lilith

She r2 rn

[frank kindle]

Vera better contender

[muted zenith]

btw whats her build at SSS

i only know 4 cottie cause you said it

[sly geyser]

true...

[keen sable]

my lilith still r0

[quiet lily]

send huaxu

[quiet lily]

4jiboan 4cottie

just change chen to cottie, thats it

[muted zenith]

which one is harmo?

[formal radish]

https://huaxu.app/ap/players/13907300/characters

[muted zenith]

cottie right?

[sly geyser]

from mambon to jambon

[quiet lily]

it doesnt matter, whatever ur qu holding right now, take chen and throw away, replace it with cottie

[muted zenith]

alright

[frank kindle]

No reso on echo

U are not a fan of ur police girl are u

[sly geyser]

what police

[quiet lily]

holy fat fak r3 ish before lilick

[frank kindle]

And before vera

[sly geyser]

deserved

[formal radish]

I just got her sig when this patch dropped

I'm not wasting my mats

[frank kindle]

Nice, im getting one as well

Im like 14/30

No early so far saj

[quiet lily]

ye u can r3 lilick

i saw ur selena

[formal radish]

Over vera?

[sly geyser]

oi

[quiet lily]

why is she on GA

[formal radish]

PPC

[muted zenith]

done

[quiet lily]

dlt gives her dmg though

[sly geyser]

since when?

[formal radish]

https://tenor.com/view/what-surprised-gif-25739412

[quiet lily]

what else? vera dont need r3

[frank kindle]

Vera r3 or sss

[sly geyser]

just stop disrespecting lilith

[quiet lily]

she gets dmg based on how many orb she ate, or is that only on high rank?

[sly geyser]

both

[frank kindle]

Honestly if u sss r2 is sufficient

[formal radish]

Idk

[sly geyser]

nah r3 or fake fan

[quiet lily]

lilick kinda special case though bcs lilick is hard carrying dark

[formal radish]

I'm talking about lilick

[sly geyser]

vera is the only true best girl in this game

[keen sable]

who cares about that

[sly geyser]

oi

[keen sable]

biannca is literally right there

[quiet lily]

just shut up

[keen sable]

[paper narwhal]

can i use ishmael with qu shukra and wanshi?

[sly geyser]

fight fight fight fight

[quiet lily]

he ask abt lilick

[frank kindle]

U wont pure solo with walter

[eager oasis]

Hanying uses class instead of core now?

[formal radish]

[keen sable]

ye dont reso lilith past r1

[sly geyser]

still core

[frank kindle]

So whats the point of not investing in lilith

[quiet lily]

yes

[sly geyser]

oi fk whel

[eager oasis]

Well thats conflicting

[sly geyser]

stop misinfo'ing peasants

[quiet lily]

wtf selene main dps now, fk hanging

[eager oasis]

What is it now 🫣

[sly geyser]

who th is selene

[frank kindle]

U got selena?

[keen sable]

what a selena

[formal radish]

Based on my parroting experience it's class now

[eager oasis]

Yea i got her

[quiet lily]

who tf doesnt have selene

[sly geyser]

crapi in phys team

[formal radish]

Someone in this chat

[frank kindle]

Then class han if u got mats to reroll

[sly geyser]

[eager oasis]

Kk

[gusty shale]

https://tenor.com/view/for-real-tupac-yo-mtv-raps-s1e6-seriously-gif-25975783

[quiet lily]

btw mambo, what happen to daren

[sly geyser]

[formal radish]

I don't wanna talk about it

[quiet lily]

u couldve played normal dark team...

[formal radish]

I got her from arrival when I was a newbie

[quiet lily]

arrival

ohh btw do test selena GA vs dlt for ss0

im curious which one is better

[formal radish]

Later

And I don't mald selena anyway

[quiet lily]

sure then

[formal radish]

So R3 lilick or verai

[sly geyser]

why would u even know peasant stuff

[keen sable]

vera

[quiet lily]

im leaning towards lilick, u gonna solo lilick in ib anyways with 3s0

[formal radish]

Will vera not 2rot if it's not her weather

[sly geyser]

fk whel

[quiet lily]

vera r3 adding dlt is good too

time to go ask opinion in office

[frank kindle]

She still should be better in other weathers

[sly geyser]

office still play the game?

[formal radish]

[quiet lily]

just ping ken and rydle

[formal radish]

Now we wait 5 hours

[quiet lily]

[wise mango]

Does plasma pyroath use 4cottie? or 2 cottie and 2 plasma set?

[fading kestrel]

the latter

[formal radish]

Omg I only had to wait 10mins thank feyer

[quiet lily]

u couldve asked in LS too

[hoary dagger]

[formal radish]

They all guuning

[quiet lily]

even espada is here

[quiet lily]

r3 lilick or vera?

[sand laurel]

whats the plasma nanami set?

[hoary dagger]

no, i'm not

[quiet lily]

[hoary dagger]

both

[quiet lily]

[formal radish]

Oh wait we have an emoji for that

[noble zinc]

Got it both R3 done

[keen sable]

imw waiting for liv for that

[tight trellis]

[keen sable]

[hoary dagger]

good now mald my wz nudelao

[tight trellis]

https://tenor.com/view/love-mike-myers-austin-powers-i-love-you-come-to-me-gif-5694006

[vale raft]

SS3 Priority List of Gacha-Only Units

1. Lucia: Pyroath
2. Selena: Pianissimo
3. Ishmael: Parhelion
4. Nanami: Startrail
5. Hanying: Solacetune
6. Vera: Geivaror

[eager oasis]

Ishss3 is rlly that good?

[frank kindle]

Still outdated owo

[mighty tusk]

outdated already

[frank kindle]

Nana is top1

[pine moss]

Whats the updated one?

[eager oasis]

Oh.... Uhhhh fr?

[mighty tusk]

nanami>pianissimo>pyroath>ishmael>solacetune>geiravor

[eager oasis]

Got lucia n selena ss3, wata too

[keen skiff]

running out of orbs on dlt nanami 🥀 at the end of a perfect run

[eager oasis]

Oh nanami fr? Okudoki

Tyvm

[frank kindle]

Also any kr players here

[pine moss]

Pianissimo ss3 over pyroath? That's crazy

How good is her ss3

[mighty tusk]

because ss3 pyroath is mostly relevant for plasma

[keen skiff]

is sigless shukra even playable

[pine moss]

You can do 1 rot lmao

[keen sable]

regards saying pyro ss3 when she only works in plasma

[keen skiff]

how

[mighty tusk]

she still has her qte nuke for fire, but her fire rot mostly stays the same

[keen sable]

[pine moss]

Idk do a perfect dodge to trigger matrix

[keen skiff]

I tried it earlier, I just cant get the 3 stack

[keen skiff]

[keen sable]

u dont know how many people are pissed that they got pyro ss3

[frank kindle]

U still do one eclipse with double rot vera

[keen sable]

she is so useless in fire now

[keen skiff]

ye , i thik i will stick to solo wanshi then

[frank kindle]

[pine moss]

How is she useless?

[keen sable]

more like got powercrept

[pine moss]

Doesn't pyroath still outdamage vera?

[keen skiff]

im a proud ss3 pyro owner

[keen sable]

no

[crystal rune]

Not anymore

[pine moss]

Oh that sux

[crystal rune]

(Only with sig)

[pine moss]

Hey i mainly use pyroath for plasma so no bigdeal

[frank kindle]

Shake cottie vera dishes out tons of dmg

[keen sable]

thats why i said people i know are pissed they got ss3 pyro last patch and now vera just beat her so hard that she runs 2 einst in fire content

[frank kindle]

I mean ss3 is good upgrade cuz pyro qte becomes nuke

[pine moss]

I have 4pc sig on her do i gotta change it?

[frank kindle]

Hervor only for pure solo vera

[keen sable]

putting a unit at high prio ss3 when it only is good in one wz is some crazy shiit

[near epoch]

Which teams I can play with Dante and Vergil

[keen sable]

still aint worth it

[pine moss]

I do 2 rot vera 😦

[frank kindle]

Shake cottie then

[crystal rune]

Shakes cottie can 2 rot

[pine moss]

I just hypertuned her bro

[frank kindle]

Should have asked bro

[pine moss]

I watched a yt vid 😭

[frank kindle]

Even worse

[mighty tusk]

Burn team: dante-startrail-geiravor
ultimaslash: vergil-solacetune-echo

[keen sable]

cant trust yt videos for memory builds anymore

[frank kindle]

Only handful of ytbers are okay to watch

[noble zinc]

【2薇拉单c20次传奇火区 600w（哦～总算成了）-哔哩哔哩】 https://b23.tv/2PeeWj0

could have been my score of I was legend last week

[pine moss]

I use pyroath, nanami, vera in fire

[frank kindle]

Zamn

[wintry parcel]

One warzone is an understatement

[keen skiff]

nanami

[frank kindle]

Im doing my wz today @noble zinc

Sniping slacc legends

[noble zinc]

[keen sable]

the fact still stands that ss3 pyro prio went down hard after vera release

[pine moss]

I'm in legend rn so i get a vacation hehe

[nova forum]

is there no quick mass memory upgrade option?

[keen sable]

ss3 pyro vs ss0 vera is still weaker in fire

[nova forum]

[pine moss]

Crazy

[keen sable]

yea and these people are crazy

putting her still on high prio

[keen skiff]

time to use chrome instead of shukra in ice wz

[pine moss]

How much stronger is pyroath with ss3 in plasma comapred to SS?

[keen sable]

the problem is

its just plasma

[versed oxide]

Guys is lilith + nana good for plasma ppc?

[keen sable]

1.nanami 2.piano 3.ishmael 4.pyro 5.solect 6.vera

if vera gets affix team that works she might jump up to idk

[frank kindle]

Okay i rolled so brick bracket @noble zinc guy with 333 lightning did 5m in legend

[wintry parcel]

Now you're just spitting bullcrap

[keen sable]

nope

[frank kindle]

[bold ferry]

Can someone skip selena and get vergil?

[wintry parcel]

They could

[keen sable]

then explain me why

[wintry parcel]

If they don't care less about the affix warzone I guess

[pine moss]

Vergil does about 10% physical damage so he can probably

[bold ferry]

Still very far from hero and legend wz

[wintry parcel]

What's the point if I try to explain it to you when at the end you're still gonna say "but doesn't change the fact Pyroath deals less damage than Geiravor in the fire warzone therefore she shouldn't be a priority"

[mighty tusk]

can? yes.
Optimal? If you like playing vergil with 1.5 rot max and only stuck with beowulf and not touching any yamato and force edge

[keen sable]

she is defnitly not a higher prio then selena nanami ishmael

since they all work in more then 1 team for your whole accont

lucia works in fire yes but vera is there now

[mighty tusk]

you're gonna struggle with physical with the way vergil plays in physical

[wintry parcel]

You don't even understand what exactly the purpose of this priority is in the first place

[keen sable]

i wanna hear your rreasoning why ishmael shouldnt be above pyro

who is worth to upgrade to ss3

[wintry parcel]

Pyroath SS3 changed her rotation

In 2 element

Parhelion
Only 1

[keen sable]

u do 1 rota in fire on pyro

and ishmael can be used in alot of teams

[wintry parcel]

It's more than just "1 rotation"

[keen sable]

if u dont have vera

[wintry parcel]

"can be used in alot of team" is an exaggeration

[keen sable]

ss3 pyro is still weaker then ss0 vera

[wintry parcel]

You know what

I couldn't care less anymore

You have your own understanding of the "game"

[keen sable]

did u even do the gwyn ppc boss?

pyro was barely doing anything

[wintry parcel]

Continuing with your own mind

[keen sable]

u dont even give arguments

just watch all the videos

its all vera in fire ppc and wz now

[bold ferry]

So im bricked? I just pulled pyro sig today and reso her with harmony lol and im gonna make her ss tomorrow

[keen sable]

im talking about ss3 pyro

[keen skiff]

thats not brick

[mighty tusk]

not bricked

[pine moss]

No she's still meta

[keen skiff]

brick is me currently investing in shukra

in the big summer 2025

[wintry parcel]

Fortunately, we do have a place of a proper discussion of all of these priorities that are out of your reach

[keen sable]

pyro is not a high ss3 prio anymore

[zenith thorn]

just block him

dumbasses are meant to be ignore

[keen sable]

anyone who recomends her over ishmael is a crazy guy when vera exists

[bold ferry]

https://huaxu.app/eu/players/24121706/characters
Can u guys tell me what unit to invest next? Thinking about getting selena sig and making her ss

[wintry parcel]

You should get her SS rank upgrade yes

[keen sable]

pyros ss3 helps her only in plasma

[mighty tusk]

"is a crazy guy"
ooohh boy

[keen sable]

if u did gwynpig ppc boss and fire wz uw ould know

vera does alot more dmg in fire content and that is a fact

ss0 vera beats ss3pyro

aint no way u recomend her ss3

[wintry parcel]

The fact that Gwyn Ultimate Phantom Pain Cage score is your main concern out of all things is quite interesting

[obsidian dune]

what am i seeing rn

[gusty shale]

https://tenor.com/view/puppet-awkward-looking-what-side-eye-gif-18137837707708132578

[keen sable]

there is only 2 endgame contents

[bold ferry]

Thanks god i saw this i was gonna pull ss3 pyroath in the 100% rate up banner in dmc