#📨・meta-help
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Once wata dropped
Lee turned into a Sub-DPS
We were merely using him cuz he was for the small time he was, a good fire DPS
WTF are these scores...
it will just get higher
plasma gets you those
nah, welcome to giga whale city xd
well i do mean like the 3rd position in fire team since wata vera ( liv before) is always in the team
Gen 3 + Gigawhale + Plasma Lightning week

Overcooked
so if dante doing similar to lee and its gonna be free, i'll take it for now
Wait you mean you'll use the base S0 ?
Yea just leave it
you would rather use another amp
Just use Vera solo
Just Vera solo
Epitaph, Vera, another amp
For your sanity and your score

void is fraudulent
It has no content 
i'm not looking at top 100 overall anyway since i dont swipe 
It's not for leaderboards
Wait
Are you by any chance a casual?
And do you skip units ?
u can put ishmael in so many teams if u miss anything, she got way more options then just pyro
pyro is only plasma now
eh i'm 3 months into the game
if we’re talking raw power, yes ish is more important than pyro ss3 nowadays. Absolutely
But deadass you do not need a good void team as much as you need a good fire team
its a prio list
yes it is
i just told you why
the score dif in ppc is so irrelevant
if anything decent rank on squad board is good enough for me
twice in a row now 
atleast make the prio list make sense
last void wz was like 5 weeks? 4?
u can do a pro and con list for ss3 ishmael and pyro
and ishmael gonna have more pros then pyro
what are we even trying to do here
if u do a ss3 prio list atleast do it right
how bout you take it up with the people that made the list 
But idm entertaining the ragebait either
theres no ragebait buddy
there are void wzs?
im just stating facts


i thought void was like uniframes now
is 5.1 mil ion good for na?
2.32.32.3 101 101
Lilith so close to sss
that ishmael got more options then just a pyro who is stuck in plasma
ss3 prio list means who to prioritize first
cursed invest
and pyro is def under ishmael u cant deny that
tbh ishmael as cope tank/amp for other ele teams just means you skipped. if you had not skipped any teams, you would know and feel that that value only applies to new players. and most players who voted in that ss3 prio list have all complete teams.
Do you guys know anyone that makes Na wz runs?
yea that list sounds more like for vets that have complete teams and so it does not make sense
should name that list who to prio ss3 if u have everyone ss0 already
why are u going for ss3 if u dont have enough units
true
then they should go for missing units on base banner not ss3-ing with it
and when they have the option to pick one unit to ss3 now they can look at it
back pulling is never recommended anyway if you f2p
and if you a spender, just ss3 everybody
anyway my point stands
make a pro cons list ss3 pyro and ishmael
and u will see who is on top
ye should be already

why is pgr so damn complicated like wdym i need a whole other set for watanabe just so my luna can do the most dmg in my team
anyone want to watch some newb lightning wz?

The price we pay for 100% banners

yh so i would rather lose the 50/50
go play wuwa
and luna needs her sig jst to be able to do another rotation
i do😍

what
Wuwa is nice but grinding echos is actual cancer
is this sentence
wdym
INSANE
Ok
its not that bad tbh
ok
hsr is way worse in my opinion
people still play hsr?
I love wuwa
i only play it bc i loveeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeee the character design and the animations
It pains my soul
That’s valid
Game is very visually appealing
dw almost all of characters got 65 crit rate bc i keep getting 6.x on my crit roles
do u play zzz
i did but i kept losing 50/50 so i kinda gave up on it but i still play it when a new character releases
jst so i can gamble till 80 pity than win or lose and leave the game for another month
ZZZ is also nice but
This might be a hot take
The characters are kinda lame outside of a few 
lads?
love and deep space
LMFAAOOO
nope
damn
I love zzz
you should check it out
i tried it but its not my game lmao
BellexWise
its kinda boring imo
Von lycaon ughugughhfhdhsjbdb
yh so are u alright in ur head?
The two that just came out are turbo sleeper
Bro, u try playing pgr for 5 years and see if ur alright in the head
fair fair
my head already hurts after trying to figure out how pgr works
PGR made me realized I hate open world gatcha
Everything being hub base means I can just fight
true
ngl, kinda funny how i angered today some tourist 
Nah, i’d mintpick
lol why
what did u do

tourists are funny 
The naming system in character abilities tend to over complicate things heavily
Imo
Like it makes it turn into word salad
gang even guides are complicated like wdym i need 5000000000000000000000000000000000 different builds for each character so they get buffed
It’s not that bad but it is a lot
Needing multiple sets for each character depending on wz and ppc and element and affix
like it wouldnt be that bad
Spill the beans
But once it’s solved it’s done tho
Yeah every gatcha game has its grind
At least you have the characters tho!
i typed out speedrun times of alternative gamemodes with some sarcasm at the end, that was response 
#📨・general-help message
if u wouldnt need to do these than changing sets for characters wouldnt even be a problem
LMFAO OH THIS
DMC FANS ARE GONNA DROWN ON RELEASE HERE

they are gonna have to put a warning on meta help when DMC comes out
i still need to clear tundraa to be done with all
So they don’t scare them away
im gonna stream some noob wz
make a seperate tourist-help

Is tundra time gated? I’m 79
i didnt know u were this rich
im noob
For vera, in Lucia watanabe vera comp all with no sig, do i run 4 shakespeare build?
I believe 4 shake is if you have sig on Vera
And if she’s main dps? Someone here will correct me
4 shake 4 cottie if u have dlt on vera 
xen just flexed on me so hard
Some people are just so fcking dense lmfao 
Is tundra time gated? About to unlock it
Ok so if i have no sig?
oh wait
Do i rather want da vinci on watanabe or vera
u got pyro?
pyroath?
ye
ye
no
then dv guin on vera
if u speedrun u can do 110 levels in about 2 hours
Sweet
alrighty
Man wtf is DPS Geiravor 
all in the name of guild battle 
Did clash reflection with dual DPS with Ishmael and even with Ishmael being the leader and buffed by Geiravor, Geiravor still did more damage 
If only my Pyroath is SS rn, and all have no sigs, do i have any rotation i should do or just unga bunga until i run out of orbs
Pyro w/o sig is gonna feel kinda unga yeah
Woulda had it had i not lost 80/20
DLT makes her rotation waaay better
lamia weapon too 💀
It also lets her fast ult slow ult on second rotation
free reso
i'm early game player so i don't got much to reso lmao
bro you're lucky. you won the 20/80
i wonder how many will win 10/90 on dmc 
you wont lose if you dont pull 
Whats that? Lotus weapon? 💀
not me cuz i'm broke :)
Free Einstenina harmony 
Triple checking this is her dps build b4 i hypertune
It is right?
With cottie bottom ofc

yeah
Okay good-
you'll want to change reso tho
Oh ofc attack and signature move
Bish wha
...
Does hp actually do anything for vera, u saw a guid reccomend attack and hp
200k
Bro

Wtf
he jst flexed on me so hard its insane
i tried to hit on him but he is not interested smh
Damn sugar daddy?
Ur 18+...?
im 17 LMAO
OOP

Well it'll be fine for you..
Oh gosh sss+ sig r3 and sss cub-
he said he only play pgr and i asked him why doesent he play other games like wuwa he said bc he doesnt like the 50/50
like are u kidding me if ur this rich why do u even care lmaoooooo
based
Fair tho ngl
this guy has bought 180k rainbow card stop saying fair.
25 and rich af, wonder what career he got
Wtf😭😭


like KR whels?
ic
my turn to kiwi
oh nyo, Gin tired of playing all accounts 

not rly
external factor
im stealing this aswell

Hey guys. I just got S Hanying and her sig today. At what point does she beat out SS Rosetta? Am I good to make the swap from the get go?
And yes I do have Alisa, but I need to grind to get her to SSS
lilith in plasma 4dv4guin or 4dv2guin2eins
4guin
She annihilates rosetta at base s
ss makes her bearable to play though
Oh, okay!
I got the option to choose between advanced and ultimate zone in ppc. What do y'all think? I got 1100000 in advanced last week
You've never been in uppc, right?
I recommend going there at least once to do outlier point
Never
Could you elaborate on that?
So outlier point is where all the archived uppc bosses go, since they're weaker than the current selection
By getting at least 580k score on all of them, you can get 1400 skulls
Almost enough to ss 3 units
Is that like a 1 time thing?
damn, i want it to reset. /j
So you can use your strongest team
Well worth it
It does reset?
Do beware of a boss called ballard, who is significantly harder than the rest
It doesn't
no 
When u said the bosses are weaker than the current selection u meant compared to the advanced selection or the ultimate selection?
ultimate
Compared to the ultimate section, but a lot of them are still super outdated by today's standard
Any decent ss0 team can destroy them all tbh
Frankly I think you could solo vera and get 580k on all of them
Ultimate. But given the quality of characters available now just melt them with ease.
Yes. On a few of them now (barring the one that’s only super weak to tanks) I’ve wiped them with one Vera Sequence
Can I solo nanami? I also got luna and selena
Someone do /580k because my mobile discord is bugged and can't access celica commands
Yeah solo nanami can probably destroy them all too
I would recommend vera for ballard though, since he's much tankier than the rest
hello anyone here play 5 slash plasma pyroath on mobile?
Someone told me that I need plasma beam team for uppc otherwise it's not worth it this week
That's only for the main rotation right now
What do u think
that's for this week
Does that mean that I probably won't be able to get all of this week's rewards in ultimate?
just enter ultimate ppc and you will see
Most likely yes, as the ice boss and plasma boss are both pretty tanky
However the physical boss gets reamed by selena
outlier is your goal brother
But doing the one-time outlier point is worth it for stepping into uppc once
that will boost up your account
^
Get the skulls and you have almost enough to SS 3 characters for free. Sounds like a win to me
I am debating whether I go uppc this time for the one time reward from the outlier while sacrificing the weekly rewards or go advanced and get the outlier rewards when the uppc bosses are more in favor of my account
you also will not lose out on BC from PPC. you just need participation anyways
Oh yeah that’s a thing. Weeklies doesn’t care what difficulty I believe
Mhm
wait i just realized now, can maybe even just let ur character die in IB and get weekly IB reward from that xd
getting 3 meta units to SS rank will prolly make you stay on UPPC forever starting next week
thats what I have been doing 
as long as you dont brick your account
oh it works? sick imma do the same
i always keep a lvl1 character handy for such occasion
I lied

xd
changwho?
well I will try anyway cause it should work since u get a score i think
Most of my A ranks r lvl 1 
What memories for SS physical PPC?
and if u have a score u should place somewhere which means u eligble for reward
I saw some people say 4pc Patton is good on Selena here
ahh wata and some others i cant remember, bambi too
oh yes definitely. the lowest reward 
Tell me more abt that
thats already enough xd
I think it will work. my f2p ass ain't getting over 70-100% rank anyway idk why I try to play ib tbh 
im not gonna mald for like 1 or 2 more skulls from that
Especially in Legend lol
its more interesting then ult ppc, its kinda similar to warzone but also not
if you are an f2p, dont waste your BC on gacha coatings. dont over invest on one character, ask here before using selectors
so can be fun to try but not worth malding like crazy over it Dx
i dont have time to mald that stuff now anyway so i will just do the quick fast way
other than that, just build your meta units and learn their rotations
im starting to have extra skulls on taiwan now which is strange
maybe that is why I play it too 
So far I got luna with her weapon, nanami, selena and I also got lee hypereal from base but ig nobody cares abt bro lol
What’s huge as well with the game is they’re basically saying “be patient. Sooner or later the characters you need will be available to you”. For example, I don’t have Qu, and chose Wata because my fire team is depressingly bad by today’s standards. But eventually, she’ll be grindable
”
I have 2k+ skulls I wondered this only once that I could claim alisa shards for easier sss then my rationale said nah theres gonna be 5 back 2 back S ranks soon™ and I stopped myself

oh boy.....
Isn't qu available in this patch's selector?
What is it?
Idk why but I don’t fw my qu
Hyperreal is pretty outdated now
Anyone wants her?
So he wasn't really the best choice from the base banner
did u pick lee on purpose? Oo
Sorry, I meant Wata

Well in 2 patches you'll be able to get qu for free again
wow who tf would of guessed
yeah you can get Qu this patch for free. so I say, without other context, Hanying was the better choice
Wait don't misunderstand, I got nanami from the selector and then him randomly
Ah
thank goodness
Oh word?
anyone know how much pyroth outperforms hyperlee? I got him mega geared up with sig and everything
We thought you selected him
i couldnt believe someone picked him on purpose

s+ lee outperforms ss0 pyro probably but I wouldn't know
your account is unbricked
Sss+ ???
ye but her problem is barely being playable at S rank and without weapon ontop of that
sss+ and r3 sig?
she needs both her sig and SS rank to function normally
Won't ppl be able to SS her?
dlt 
and if she has no sig, is she worth making SS? i wouldnt say so xd
i would rather just solo with wanshi
I don't really like her so what are my best options other than her?
do u have wata
Oh so I’m cooked- I almost have her ss but I’m only at 14 pity for her weapon…
ice zaza
No
take him then
brother could I show you my build? I'm tryna solo ice with him but it's not doing enough damage
Wata is v good 
Bro's a tank right?
sure
yes for fire
Yes. Fire tank
ahhh u started recently?
might be fine since u get a lot of skulls from PPC graveyard
Wanshi: Lucid Dreamer of Diceman from the Asia-Pacific server of Punishing: Gray Raven.
which is only in ult ppc
Well

well i can see ye, ur wanshi is quite low invested so that is why Dx
oh lord, what else does he need?
well I mean he can work like that, but his dmg will be bad
Now no that’s the problem I’m almost done with that and I used most of the skills to get ss wata ss Ishmael and ss vera
his cub gives him a lot of damage, his sig allows him to use 4pc chen which gives him more damage
u should be ok, which other important S u have that wasnt from dorm shop?
I see, so these things add up, I thought all I needed to do is level them up and hypertuned their memories
it depends what u want / can do as well - like if u dont care about leaderboards, u can complete most content like that
will u get good scores in wz and ppc? not really xd though f2p players in this game usually can get some sigs and cubs, just need to pick and chose right
so that over time, u dont even need to spend since u can get everything u need baseline
Well I got Lilith ss,pyroath S ,oblivion almost ss ,qu s she isn’t really built idk why I pulled for her same with lamia S , feral S, crimson Ss, empyrea S, and that’s it and ofc wata ss ishmael ss and vera ss
f2p just dont have rights. that's where the joke comes from
this game is more patience then other gachas, tho i guess they all are about patience if u are f2p
lamia 😭
https://huaxu.app/ap/players there is also this site which is helpful btw
Explore players and other data from the Punishing: Gray Raven outside of the game.
Stop😭
Oh.
thanks for the info, I think I'll need to work on rotations now cuz I'm broke for more investing, also I watched some of your recent vids never thought that your f2p lol
he is the f2plao bro
that's what I always do, hit once and die 
not terrible account with all those characters, tho empy kinda useless with vera now if u have the rest of the team. Definitely need to SS pyro most importantly

tho vera was better I think since she deals more damage xd
I know I just idk I don’t like her gameplay I don’t even know why I got her she just looked cool😭
but ye lucia would be better then CW, luna, qu by quite far
Is IB the mode we get the red thingies from to harmonize 6 stars weapons?
Should Luna be built as support in Nihil wz? SS
well doesnt matter that much i mean the selector didnt have much choice if u had wata alr honestly Dx
vera be turning you into her dog. now bark
Oh I got cw first from her banner and than for free
lamia is pretty i guess, thats nice
no. we get that from clash reflection.
should give her some homescreen love
oh ok nice, leave her like that now xd
Oh true, so what's this IB mode
she is also one that people make a lot of mistakes with usually
She was the only reason I started playing with the game😭
lots of characters look cool, but not all do cool things in the game anymore Dx
ye well there we go xD
still can't decide whether to skip dmc or pull them 
have enough bc to get basic invest. ss+sig r1+pet for both 
i mean the OG alpha was why i started this game back then
it's when you hit 1.8 mil on UPPC, you get to unlock an additional stage. for more skulls
she was, but i think vera is much cooler and some others
but it's not that big
but her release was pretty sick
it unlocks when u get 1.8 million points in ultimate pain cage. its just super tanky boss. some have over 100 million hp.
Who do u think I should pull for next?
her solo was actually hard in warzone as well when many people said before release that she was braindead, then they all got trash scores cause they didnt know what to do xd
yeah i loved lamia dearly. only to get cucked by synchro
save for next S rank
wait u should get selena

Cw
if u dont have her, i didnt see u mention her
Could u say the full name?
Alr
Selena Pianomisisisisisismo
Crimson weave
crimson washed
baited by blanc video
I mean just play with the new lucia she just got a glow up

lmaooo

wow low blow
Alr bro
What is this hate

well most of her fanbase is uber aids for one
I won't lie I was dmc tourist 
well actually i think thats the only problem
I am joking I am new too idk much abt the meta
That's why I started
but its not the characters fault
also kuro should of replaced her as well by now, but yet here we are
I saw the announcement teaser back in like
Idk when it was anymore but it was before brs patch
still soloing nanami cause i cant invest into 3s CW
And I started saving funds for them
and having a lot of fun doing the same thing every zone
and also getting staggered a bunch, super fun
great
thank u nanami for existing 
If I wanna make oblivion stronger I should get Ishmael?
How about nanami shouldn’t I try to get her instead of selena
tho they both can play dps
Nah fr?
ye fr
Generally the newest unit deals the most damage in their respective element
There are a couple situations where this wasn't the case but it's rare
Luna is kinda new though? Or am I trippin
hmmmmmmmmmmmmmm well ye that is kind of a headache Dx I would say so since she covers more teams
yesnt
life without nanami is not daijobu
She released back in january, and remember global is in sync patches right now
Lmao Alr tysm
not really, the syncro sped up the patches and made the rewards equivalent
So we getting ×2 and ×3 powercreep
so if u missed a lot of stuff, she is technically old now
Pretty much
they're aging like milk
Luna normally would've been uhhh
if u been playing the entire time since then, u should be able to use both but ish will deal more damage since she is newer unit
Lemme calculate how old she'd be if normal patches
vera also deals more damage then lucia xd
and she is an amp, welcome to pgr
its like solaeter all over again

Pgr is so weird man smh
I mean from what I've gathered from my less than 2 months of playing this game everything ages like milk in here
we'll get to normalcy once the synch ends
If we were following normal patches, I think she would be uhhhh
haven't seen someone call empy sola for a long time 
1 year and 3 weeks old?
I've got the intrusive thought of making a very bad joke
But that's assuming patch length is 5 weeks
Which I think is the average length
If I'm not mistaken
ye, its quite interesting tho since other gacha mostly force u to pick and chose characters - while pgr does the opposite, pretty much trying to force people out that habit xdd
that was the average, yea
6 weeks for S ranks. 5 weeks for A ranks by CN standards
but globlul has always been cucked
but globlul barely got any 6 weeks patches before sync
u dont like this character? too bad u should get to know them anyway xd
i like that ideal
Lmao

What does that mean? S ranks patches gets 6 weeks and A ranks patches get 5 weeks?
yeah
I mean it'll be the same for all after sync
do we know what mems will be on sale in dmc patch?
shakes, patton maybe 
they dont have their own sig mems
are you whaling on dmc?
Yeah around the same length still, 1 year 4 months for luna
it would kinda be like another lantern mem if they did that. no way to get once dmc is over. kekw
But because we have sync she's only like 7-ish months old 
Memories get discounts in this game?
well there is no way to get them after either so…
i will only pull vergin once and leave him go rot at level 1 
SSS sig dante or ss3 bonca?
true

some each patch do
Well she can't be that bad, Right?
both
Is it worth it to wait for discounts to build your characters though?
oh hey pookie
Hi honey☺️
well yeah only because there are still older units that will likely get replaced first
Hmmmmnnnmmmmmmm
fr tho, prob bianca
cuz dmc is pretty niche and nanami can solo burn as cope
which btw, time to S+ nanami on anniv banner 

anniv banner up to ishmael only
when is it
should be next patch

are you gonna S+ both dmc characters?
maybe 
i need my sugar daddy @gusty shale to come thru
He gonna Sss+ all of em
Mark my words😭🙏

giga leviathan
He ain’t leviathan he is a whole universe
bro gonna show em 20m+ score on TS wz
I saw an old vid of ppc where ppl get skulls based on their ranking. Was that removed? Bc I don't have it in my advanced ppc
that was the old PPC. now it's the IB that has that
but IB is like really just a few skulls
that's why snazz was joking earlier of just using level 1 char in IB and die 
@tall gust #📨・bot-info
was that a joke? you sure? 
If we look at the difference in skull rewards between Advanced and ultimate how much is that? Don't count IB or the outlier one time thing
brother

Oh I thought This was bot commands
Sorry guys, missclick
this is not the bot channel 💢
No problem
It was a miss input MISS INPUT!!!
we are all bots here, so it is the bot channel 

Quite a bit
Also why does the game's memory set thing doesn't save your harmonized memories
I was wondering why when I was trying to switch to plasma set it said same memories already equipped
Welp the more you know, I'mma beat this Veronica

cant wait for playable veronica
you beat her up now and then you wanna play her? that's so mean 
I think she likes it it's ok
plasma set....?
Yeah the one in /build
ahh
U see I save my sets
wutdaheck lul
I been doing dark and nihil fights with that set lma
Does Lilith even do anything for nihil team
Thought it was ult
Buffs
Her plasma set should be similar if not exactly the same as her nihil set

i mean i also did ult reso on hanying's release then immediately switched to core as soon as i found out to save my dignity
40% ele dmg bonus on heal, 20% amp buff, and some other stuff
I found out when pyro came out
That's assuming SSS
what if I'm ss
20% ele
with sig and harmony
that's pretty good
well i guess it didnt really matter coz his red reso was more important
Ive used ion pyro on fire multiple times 
my wata still on ult reso, can't change to class cuz some solo wata ppc runs would be bricc if I do 

new mambo?
nope, 10s fat guy run must be kept at 10s, and that needs 6x ult reso 
bro is a phoenix
No I'm Mambo

Bro is a Mambo
🥭 ?
My species name is Mambonius Kamus
but why you changed account?
Old one had friends that would keep harassing me on new accounts

surprised you still call them friends
What nice friends
Can we be frens 
What if I say no
damn, rejected 

Ahole 
I'm kidding Mambo loves everyone 
Too late, no frens anymore 


couldnt u just block them?
Patton selena is for ppc?
Maybe
Hmmm
Yeah
Why blue orb resonance for top slot?
that's for sss and higher, niche ppc build
patton + cottie still a ppc set, but the blue orb reso is useless if you don't have sss midlena, cuz you won't use it
Ok thanks
Is wata still technically the fastest?
Oh wait you have 3s wata right
3s is faster than vera?
if you can kill with 1 rota then yea, he fastest
Wow
Oh wait I'm not f2p either anymore
vera fastest is 11s, and that is already giga maldy speedy execution
Wata is faster? 
well 10s is faster than 11s, right? 
pretty sure sss+ wata can do 9s even, sss not enuff dmg for that
fk whels
we dont think here
Fair

Now if only wata would get a leap and be added to voucher shop
If veronica fire tank I can bricc faster and kiwi 
which one is priority, getting dlt for attacker, or getting increase full atk of team by 8 % on amplifier
DLT is always priority if the character needs it to rotate correctly
got it, thanks
Then 8% on tank
oo tank huh
Then 8% and 10% amp
Hopefully I promote to legend next week
What is this red glow thing and how do i get this?
youre gonna have to be more specific
Supertune
Complete sequence pact and station characters with 12 hypertunes to get some goodies.
Namely 1% edb per slot
OH thank you
For a total of 12%
Thats alot but feels mid
12% edb can be a 200k-2m diff

Ew warzone
Ew ppc player
Higher resistance reduction is going to boost your team performance significantly
It's almost as good as SS3 rank upgrade to some of the Tank character
For the fraction of the cost
yeah but i guess dlt is still prio
chat I'm not smart enough for this / don't understand the minmax bot
for wanshi's build should the eins be on top or bottom (I don't have his sig so 4 liston 2 eins)
You don't need to worry about that anyway
Put Liston pieces at the bottom row slot and put Einsteina pieces at whichever the top slot that's left after Liston
gooot it
Only if the unit needs it
This placement also makes it easier to replace Einsteina set whenever you're going to get his signature weapon
Dlt prio > tank r1 > amp r2 > attacker r2
Making his build 4 Piece Liston and 4 Piece Chen jiyuan
For example, pyroath rn prolly doesn't need dlt anymore while vera does
(probably never cause I'm broke af)
If my Qukra already has 4 Chen Jiyuan, what harmony do I put in Lucid Dreamer?
@pine slate are you a whale?
If anyone can answer this who’s better sss nanami or s+ cw?
couldn't say for sure but probably nanami lmao
Ok haxx 
The same
4 Piece Chen jiyuan doesn't stack with each other, but the personal buff for each individual character is still very good
Damn cuz I have sss nanami rn and sss6 cw im wondering whether I should sacrifice some vouchers to s+ her
Oh yeah
And then if u want to voucher u can
I just realized the only viable character from the selector shards from the bp is cw 
But I’d recommend sss+ wanshi and Lilith
Alisa too
Doesn't seem to be worth it to spend vouchers for Weave
Gotcha thanks
Yeah
To s+?
If next patch is single patch my cw will be sss9 so ima just get her s+
You won’t have enough vouchers after s+ wanshi and Lilith
Sss3 is a good stopping point for her ig
But tbf yeah after I max out cw I’ll most likely go for Alisa after I think
Dreamer's Shore
Extra DMG Bonus of Signature - Celestial Edge increases by 30%.
Extra DMG Bonus of 3-Ping skills and Cipher Orb skills increases by 50%.
Extra DMG Bonus of Imprisoning Co-Strike and Soulbreaking Co-Strike increase by 30%.
With the bp selector shards
Yeah sss3 is fine for her
does sss ishmael only need one set of 4 sothoth and 4 cottie
Yes
That's her main dps set as a Nihil dps
Different case if you were to use Parhelion as a Tank/Amplifier for the other team
oh
damn but preivously someone said pyroath unplayable without dlt
I'm confused by this Lilith class skill description
does this mean Lilith herself gets the dmg bonus or the switched in character?
is she on any team besides nihil
In a proper team setup
No
She does get the buff when swapped in
So, in plasma beam, when switched in, Lucia gets 20% atk and 20% lightning dmg bonus?
Gotcha
That was when she had to hard carry fire on her back with wata as sub-dps
welp too late, invested a pendrive onto her already 😢
It's not too late she still need it in Plasma WZ
No?
Used to
O ye pyroath needs dlt on plasma but not fire
ah well, still agood investment steve said
How many skulls can we get in uppc with a 1.8m score?
Pyro still needs DLT or else plasma is bricked
60x3 right?
Yup
Most important cubs are still Nanami and Wanshi's?
I'm not sure about Startrail anymore
The last time I asked people why they just went silent

But considering you don't have any S rank cub right now, just get the ones that have 100% rate up in the banner right now
Which is Pianissimo's and Geiravor
If you're going to ask which cub among all of the S rank cub in the is stronger (maybe more useful)?
I would probably go with Pyroath and Pianissimo first considering both are main dps units and are in multiple teams (including affix)
Gotcha, thanks
Wanshi CUB is a huge mult on his Ult, Nanami is a 40% DMG buff 
- DEF/Phys DEF Down(only up to 100%)
- Physical Resist Down
- Extra DMG Reduction Down
- Crit DMG
- Extra DMG Boost (EDB)
- Base DMG % Up
- ATK % Up
- Final ATK Up (Cub ATK Boost)
- Elemental Resist Down
- Extra DMG Reduction Down
- Extra DMG Boost (EDB)
- Elemental DMG % Up
- Base DMG % Up
- ATK % Up
- Final ATK Up (Cub ATK Boost)
I've been thinking about it while the fact that Startrail is the main Dps in the current lightning team
As for the other team she's becoming sub dps at best besides being the Tank in the team
Best to look at it later considering she's not 100% anymore 
And obviously each of the respective main dps of those teams will out damage startrail
I'm not really sure about her cub anymore
When her Cub are mainly only boosting Startrail personal damage
what's even the most flexible S cub?
Nanami sub is insane
Flexible?
Probably one of the best
Tough question to be honest
Lingya
can be used for other constructs too
Any S rank cub I guess
If in doubt just lingya
Lingya the 🐐
Lingya on amp/tank 
And you just have to use the ATK boost and Extra DMG Bonus skills
Flexible is just Lingya lmfao
Crazy that i was flamed for saying this a few weeks ago
Because it's a generic buff that's beneficial for any type of character
We picking crimson brick🗣️ 🗣️ 🗣️
This is just a pinned info idk wym
Yuan Ye and A rank bird cub carrying me rn 
Cub has the respective element type as one of their passive skills
Never knew wanshi cub buffs his ult lol
Choosing one that's useful for ANY team is difficult
Just got it cuz doggo cute
I like this one bcs it doesn't have timer 
That's really good
(And I like Daren so this ain't go away)
Which one is this?
Isn't moonhopper daren's cub
Daren sig cub the rabbit
never would have guessed
oh yeah, Noctua, buffs Yuan Ye carrier 
Damn what a shame her ult does jackshit damage now
But the fact that it only boosts Signature move, with the other characters that doesn't use signature move as their main damage source such as Pianissimo might not be able to benefit it properly
Kaleido cub has a better buff
Pretty sure selena core do more dmg
Yes
it does
Pianissimo Core Passive skills have a massive damage percentage
Especially for her Glaciation skills
Pianissimo is just weird to play
Still dont know how her flower ult really works
Eventho i have ss3
Some part of her core passive is pretty clunky yeah
Like her hold basic attack to consume the music note
The delay is very noticeable
Holy busted
12% EDB, maybe I should grab this
ss squid of all things lmao
Time to scrap some Cub for it
there are definitely better buys than buffing alisa's dmg in glacio
that's huge
But why tho
Nothing
Already an irrelevant character
Some of us wondering which cub is the most flexible
should i use the free s rank selector to upgrade starrail or get qu shukra to complete my ice team
I use ye yuan for missing CUB
can yuan ye even stun bosses
Getting Shukra isn't a bad idea
SS3 rank Startrail is overkill in my opinion
I only have her S rank tho
Get SS3 startrail
You can do a lot with SS rank already
ss3 startrail isnt a bad idea
shukra is if u cant invest in her
anti nanami propaganda
You still can farm her shards through Phantom Pain Cage shop for free
If you can't spare skulls to SS her just get NanaGOAT
It's enough for SS rank
oh okay
thats like the #1 sign not to get shukra
Me who got Shukra at random at basich research (already exhausted the selector) 
Um free selector doesn't have strartrail
yeah
both used in Lightning AND Dark
Get epitaph
💀
no epitaph? use nanami 
Just use bridget
Startrail
Dante need Startrail and Vera
Plasma beam 2 weeks in a row😭😭
Ill just get qu ig
yes please more
Naurrrr
do u even plan to pull her weap
Plasma honeymoon ends this week!
does she need her weapon?
NOOOOOO
she's so bricked without it lmao
very reliant, I hate kuro for that one
just use wanshi bro
As fire DPS tank in ur Fire team
dont u have vera
I dont have vera
oof
Epitaph is good copium
Epitaph will start ur fire team
can go 1.5 mil in WZ probably 
Dante can also do fire damage
is the free ice team from dorm good
decent 
Wanshi LD from dorm is the best Ice Unit
do you have Luna?
Luna?
Oblivion
no
oof
Bro's a new player
she enables zaza mode for homeless teams
im just saving up for dmc collab
Dante wants Vera get her
This game doesn't do 100% reruns
good luck with 70% rates
trust
This is not genshin




