#📨・meta-help
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nice
did you try to pre-hold the ult
When it's not blue?
yea
No I haven't
do that
just know then when the ult button isnt there, your input also disappears
so you gotta "re-hold" it
I don't understand?
should i get watanabe for fire team or lamia for dark team?
whats the timing for vera's hold ba dodge cancel lthing
when you ult, the orbs, ult, dodge and basic button disappears right?
if youre talking about the selector watanabe easily
any input you do during that frame clears up
Not registers?
ok so imagine you have a ton of sp:
hold ult
ui disappears
you keep holding
ui comes back
you still holding
ult doesnt retrigger again
Oh i understand now
Hey y'all can I get a screenshot of your Watanabe epitaph build along with the memories and resonance you use?
so which CUB should I get if I have this roster (To Snowveil)? (I have Lamia's, Qu, Wanshi, CW, Pyroth and Lilith cub )
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ion lucia has this bug as well,
where after hold ult, her blue orb ui disappears, making it impossible for you to trigger ion until it comes back on
Oh i see
its a mess in this part, but you can see i ulted lucia
https://youtu.be/QvpqLciCMNg?t=7s
sigh, im tired.
Special thanks to: @SKGumball and @RydleYT for the rotations and stuff ig.
Song used:
.hack//INFECTION - Cathedral Hidden Forbidden Holy Ground
https://youtu.be/PUrU0gu2mN0?feature=shared
Arknights - Wlfmster
https://youtu.be/izFwwGx-wmo?feature=shared
Tower of Heaven - Luna Ascension
https://youtu.be/tp9eRncVbcY?feature=shared...
and the blue ui disappears
I really sux at this game 
mald more
Yes I see that
True af
me too, the more i mald the worse i get

have u tried not being poor
Revolutionary idea
You should run for president
i havent tried running for president
She just spams all 6 white orbs and does flower ult now right?
For wz you don't click the white orbs at all 
I thought with ss3 Selena u do 1 flower 1 orchestra
Or does she not need it for the earlier waves
dont listen to miku
I’m just gonna look up a vid lmao
I did wanna ask tho, if I’m only doing 1 ult rot on Hanying now, does she still need DLT or can I go DD on her?
what memories should i use for watanabe alphanso with cottie or einsteina?
Da vinci and eins
Guys,
I have Lilith, CW, Startrail, Feral, Lucid Dreamer, Pianissimo, and Geiravor.
i havent scire and lamia
Which one would be the most useful for me to get from the Blissful box? I’m thinking Watanabe, but I wanted to hear your opinions
i have dark tank like tenebrion
Who?
Who
no no, they said it jokingly xd
im new xd
For the first time, I reached 1.55m on Ultimate PPC :D
hii so quick question bc ive been scrolling around a bit, ss0 fire mems are 4sig 4 cottie lucia
but for wata is it 4sig/4shakes/4dv?
vera 4guin/4sig/4cottie?
is this the wrong channel to ask idk
this is my acc
you can use huaxu.app to search for your account, no need to login or anything
and share your account link here
4 alphonso 4dv on epitaph, 4 shakes 4 cottie on Vera is my vote for SS
yeaa, need to see your account first, on who's built or not
what's your in-game acc name?
I see i was confused, thank you! 
oh god, twinn
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@main kestrel
wait no this joke doesnt work
my name isnt xav in here
is this better than this server's bot?
wtf
? that link has nothing to do with what the bot does
it's not a bot
what is this then
it's for looking up in-game account via web
what you talkin bout
do I have to add every character I have manually?
U input ur player ID and it does it for u
i'd say wata
you have lightning team
for dark team, you'd need to cope a bit with what you have
for physical, you have rosetta and pianissimo
for ice, you can get s-rank ayla from dorm shop to help you out
for fire, get Wata and you're good to go for now
or just search the name of your account in the respective available game server
it can't find my profile by name
is it ur discord name?
i picked startrail from normal selectable banner
it's Gabriel
is it good ?
she's good, better damage than cw actually
why you dont suggest shukra
it defaults to EU and I am in eu
click your profile and copy your id
lucid dreamer himself already does damage
nvm it said Europe but it was actually checking na server
lucid dreamer will be your dps for ice
If u actually want to rotate properly u will need Shukra
She still does a crap ton of burst dmg
Okay, I want to ask: for someone who’s just starting the game, what’s the best character to get from the normal selectable banner?
Like the base banner?
Nanami startrail
Probably Startrail
Yup startrail
i chose Startrail because the more builds a character can be used in, the more worth it they are.
I looked up my guild and found my profile through that
and you guys thinking wata>qu right ?
Whereas the fire team is not locked behind Wata. Startrail can cope as a fire tank with her ignition rot
okay man. general chat is a ccouple floors down
Bridget can be a qte bot
Dazzal said the same thing 
is it like in-game ch1
Idk if he's throwing or if it's qu=epitaph
i am in perfect sync with my goat
BlackDragon doesnt have bridget
Does he have startrail
I mean he said qu > wata and that nanami can cope as fire tank
Cuz he rly rlyyyy wants his SS3
is this good?
And his sig
Elaborate
a i thought he also told him to go to general 
Qu needs sig too but she’s perfectly happy at SS0. And is a bigger unlock for the ice team than Wata is for the fire team
i s t h i s g o o d ?
i mean wata is also happy at ss, maybe even base s if you have vera+pyro
even a fully invested ice team with ss+sig and all, is still the weakest team in the game
I mean, sure, if u have SSS Wanshi with his sig and cub then yea he can solo ice content
wait what, wata does NOT need sig+ss3. not anymore
But still rough in WZ cuz u rly need to rotate
Good is relative
Elaborate
Oh ok that’s good. I was wrong then, I was under the impression his value is majorly locked behind his additional shred at SS3 but ig cuz Vera can hold shakes now(?)
that is for endgame thing no? early should be focused on building teams for each element
ss3 is just 10 shred
and sig is entirely skippable for him now, since he only does 1 rot
SS3 doesn't have even do anything for Wata outside just more shred
I feel betrayed
Cuz I’m in the same boat and need to choose between Qu and Wata
what should I improve
I will have SSS Wanshi this patch
That's how I felt with pyroath ss3
As a free selector, it's nice for improving Fire team damage
Wow bro me too..
But it's actually good
But saying it's necessary or bust is not correct
True
me when a gacha games meta develops over time 
I ate it up and spit it out
This character does not exist. Please try again.
You may be searching for a character with multiple frames as well.
The character didn't exist
Hm so SS0 Wata w 5* weap will complete my fire team. What does he go, 4 alphonso 2 dv?
what should I improve?
SS startrail, pianissimo
SS3 lilith, then SSS wanshi, then lilith
SSS echo
Where pyroath?
Get more characters and invest?
@candid dew use commands in #📨・bot-info , not here
apologies
good question
I missed her
Divorced him
forgot to pull her
divorce
Ishmael too I assume?
also how tf am I supposed to sss characters
@fading kestrel
Wanshi u get from dorm shop, then vouchers to exchange for shards
it will take 10 years
Not if u buy bp, it takes maybe 2 patches
Better than being stuck at S
2 dv kinda dookie, only 4dv does something
so id say 4dv + eins?
I thought he needed alphonso always
2dv is still pretty good
and vera goes Shake+guin
how many shards do you get from bp?
20 or 30 normally?
It has echo so you could spare the rest of the vouchers for the others
It’s a triple patch rn so it’s enough to get me from SS3 to SSS Wanshi from bp vouchers alone
so 90 this patch?
Keep in mind this is with the 68 rc one included
Well the shop has 60 total
Which not everyone considers good
But I bought some prior to shop reset as well
We are talking about bp shards 
are shards for everyone
I'm aware
No clue how many we get I’ve been using them as I get them
For bp buyers
bruh, I meant if you can use them on at char
Only up to Alisa Echo
No, wtf 
will we ever get another triple patch
No
No
Is Dark karens SIG a necessity or just having her at SS3?
She is bad
is the monthly pass also tripled?
No
tch
Not unless you buy it 3 times
There's 2 in the top-up
And the regular 1 in the monthly pass
scire is bad?
Yes
who's better then her then
She is too old
Oblivion+any other tank
Usually wanshi or nanami
oblivion is not dark
No sht sherlock
Who should i get on the event S rank selector?
Thinking on getting Shukra, already got Echo
shukra only worth if you can affor to get wep
otherwise watanabe
Oblivion converts buffs to omni buffs, benefitting everyone not just the mono element
so who's better then her on the dark team
also echo and qu do nothing for eachother. idk why youre putting them next to eachother
So the ice tank can shred for dark too
I just told you
obviously we must talk about characters in the content of their team
Wanshi, nanami, epitaph
which aren't dark
Are you blind or rage baiting
Does Watanabe work with Geiravoir?
I don't have the rest of the team he belongs to
@steep kelp #📨・meta-help message
why are using not dark chars in the dark team
scire is bad
We're already in that chat
Bro is a roundabout with no exit
and you're a wall
I linked you the message to explain your questions
And you are ignoring it
You are still talking to said wall since you can't read, typic globlul user
scire Is Better than the characters you listed in the dark team
hello guys, excuse me, who should i get from the s-rank choice?
i'm between lost lullaby and shukra to fill up either my ice team or dark team, idk if i should invest in a fire team rn since i don't have any of the characters
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The current selector from the event?
yes
It's either shukra or epitaph
what did bro say

everyone always finds some reason to ping me 
sure
scire Is Better than the characters you listed in the dark team
hello, what's the most optimal dark team?
Oblivion Lilith Wanshi/Nanami
Does Geiravoir work with Epitah?
Ofc
didnt ask you
Awesome
So i am picking him i think
Tell this bot to bot
hes saying daren is better than those tanks?
I was asking your boyfriend
That's not really an insult we're all happily gay here
at what invest tho
is it fine to pick epitaph even without pyroath or empyrea?
Dark is in a miserable spot, because Scire is extremely old. if we just look at the dark element, she is indeed the strongest.
however, because the power difference between Scire and everyone else is so massive, its literally better to use any other modern tank.
outting Luna in the team will remove the elemental restriction, so an Icce tank like wanshi will become useful for supporting dark
Main DPS Set
Main DPS
High Difficulty, Pain Cage, Warzone, Clash Reflection, Norman
Recommended for all ranks
Alternative DPS Set
Used as an alternative set in case Geiravor goes solo
4x Hervor
2x Cottie
Top Slot : 6x Any ATK+15 Variant
Bottom Slot: 6x Signature
Cottie
Yeah sure
Empyrea’s alr been replaced by Geiravor
Sure, he can do some ok fire scores at least
Oh boy
I forgot about Dante
Now i think i should've gotten Shukra despite her high investment needs
oh ok awesome
hai i need guide for ATundra
so in a mode where you should use a dark team, Karen will deal more dmg than the other tank right?
What guide
any
no
idk what i'm doing
No Pyroath is kinda rough but Vera can solo with DLT
Scire having dark damage isn't enough to justify using her at lower investments
even in a gamemode that boosts dark DMG?
Yes
Main Support Set
QTE Support Healer/Buffer
High Difficulty, Pain Cage, Warzone, Clash Reflection, Norman
QTE support set
4x Da Vinci
2x Guinevere
Top Slot : 6x Any ATK+15 Variant
Bottom Slot: 6x Any ATK+15 Variant
None
i could at least apply logic to last 3 rouge mode with my experience and knowledge but this damn mode is different
yes

stop using bots in this chat
Just admit you are a simp for the idol skin
Lilith does literally all the dmg in the dark team rn
We'll let it slide
scire does like two damage
with the stage buff it becomes three, amazing
perhaps
Scire's dark damage nowadays is so irrelevant that I wouldn't be surprised if off elementing with nanami was stronger
The only ppl I see still using Scire are ppl like Empress who have everyone SSS+
Although that might be cuz Bianca is out for them alr so can’t use Luna anymore
All I asked was if her SIG was a necessity... ;~; idc if she's optimal I have parhelion for that I just like spinning
but then wouldn't oblivion sss+ still be better
Then go to #📨・general-help
No that wouldn't do anything
And no it's not a necessity for spinning
spinning?
My bad then tyvm^^
Which is why I said, it’s prob cuz they have the new dark attacker Bianca
new dark tank when?
So they don’t use Oblivion + off element tank anymore
Hopefully in 2 weeks
Oblivion wouldn't be used anymore because you're now using an attacker as a dps
And also, oblivion’s rank is irrelevant to her annihilator passive
bianca Will be a dark tank?
Bro I literally just told u
nah get rekt
No the next unit announced
She’s an attacker💀
Attacker 
Veronica 
I asked new dark tank when, you said 2 weeks
i love when glb players cant read
that's when Bianca comes out, but she's not a dark tank
Veronica will be revealed officially
So we can't tell atm, but it's likely she is
me too
understandable
what build should i get for wata unc? for my pyr and geira
4 alphonse 4 shakes
so it won't be kamui?

WHAT THE FCK
0/10 ragebait
what’s meta fire team memories?
IS THAT
what?
AAAAAAHHHHHH
For who
Also you can just use /build in #📨・bot-info
At this points there's so many zaza builds for vera I wanna give up on this team completely
is class skill more meta to him than ult on wz?
I tried like 15 different builds and rotations and all that to try and get 606k
Oof good question
I'm not getting that 1.85m
Curse you gwyn.... Fat fck
did you now
@elfin wharf it is in fact class skill
gwyn? gwynevere? gwyndolin?
Gwynevere
Not the dks boss
Gwynplaine
That
Man just get rid of this fool
huh, must have been the wind
I got here to ask a question and now it's weird
does wata still use his main tank set after vera came out?
I'm sorry
Just ignore gabri
Imma ask anyway
hi sorry im Hyro
Very hard to keep my children in check all the time
Any idea when they announcing veronica's class and element?
Hello Hyro it's bedtime, go to sleep
4 alphonse 4 shakes with class level for reso
get rid? who tf are you?
Like 2-3 weeks
Citrom
W thanks
oh, still the same i see
A man
im confused
Your kind doesn't survive outside discord
is his sig weapon a must? cuz im not gonna pull for it atm cuz of funds lacking
Nah he only rotates once now
I responded with a meme to a guy who said he was coming and now you're crying at me
Okay, thats fire
true discord dweller behaviour
Ragebait used to be believable 
So basically when Vera slices the world with her ult 2 it creates a quantum tunneling affix effect where future waves are pre-damagaed
Is Fire too low? 
you mean yours?
Dunno, I got similar
Alright time to rest then
2.122 112 111
nah your bait clearly worked
232 131 111 for me with Nanami
I don't care enough about this game anymore to care about my scores
I use epitaph so idk
As long as I'm in IB and retaining hero i will be aokay
Should be the same
It's okay I'm content
I keep seeing those numbers in regards to rotations, what do they mean?
Dang it
Let's see if he can pass the globlul test
I was slow 
who's globul?
was unc dv gloria and eins set?
Should I sss wanshi or ss vera?
Vera
Wata rots only once but you'd have 20% more shred, you decide
It's Wanshi not Wata
is this story limited time also?
Voucher + ppc skulls
vera's too
both
Stories aren't time limited
are any of the rewards from these stories time limited?
I used Skull for SSS Wanshi 💀
Crazy waste

where can i find them when the event ends?
Journals of Promisse
Main tab in story
Latest episode
Vera's isnt there yet for some reason, but it will show up next patch
Is Pyroath signature dependent?
Ah floating record?
no, journals of promisse
What
Like vera's?
im not referring to this story
yes
Arcade anima

referring to this
I don't know then
what a brick bracket
Shouldn't be limited
max score for 2.332?
cant seem to push past this and see alot of ppl stuck on this score too
i think its this?
Ss0 wanshi? 
Us jetavie a good character when she's at sss+?
but cant find vera's here
sss
bro am I talking to a wall

Vera's not there until next patch
why slander
for some reason
It's truth
vera's story
i cant find it here
Sounds legit 
fug
2 teams complete! what team do u guys think i should prioritize next?
IT'S ONLY AVAILABLE THERE NEXT PATCH FFS
I'VE TOLD U 3 TIMES ALREADY
HOLY CRAP
more the reason to spend selector on echo
i wanna go for selena for glacio since echo and wanshi is free but im so broke rn
where
im so desperate

use bigger text next time
LIKE THIS
nah these ppl cant read
bro READ next time
typical general help convo
not even general help LOL
this is meta help though
dmc collab when
right so why is he here 
what happened to general help
bro pulled out his trump card
If cw is sss, what's her top slot? Atk or basic?
basic always
i dont think it's in my channel list
okay okay thanks
bottom if sss change from atk to sig
Whole ass sig for Echo just for 3k points higher 
🥀
u alisa sig no haver dont get to talk
i had only a few channels from this server in my channel list. This was the old help channel and i kept it here, forgor to add general help to the list

I got 288k sigless tho
you should go to #📨・general-help and stay there
But ig to the higher end 3k is still very big 

nier collab wen
tbh anything below sss is non exsistent
Where is your SSS Selena
even ss0 r3 cant save it
sponsor me when
sss brick
fk whels
Sponsor me Alisa sig first

F2P life is hard
How the he-
i found your ah on the lb 
Save me
So is fire now Lucia/Liv/Vera or Lucia/Wata/Vera?
2nd
Sad but it had to happen
Latter
Tank is mandatory in a team
Otherwise everyone does no damage
Whom should I select between watanabe and shukra from the s rank selector
I need only watanabe for fire team and I need only shukra for ice team
Are you planning on getting qu to ss, with sig + reso?
Because all of that is required to not make her feel like a dumpster fire to play
I don't plan on ss but I do have her weapon and cub
Qu human rights minimum Ss + sig
Can't forget reso
Don’t forget DLT
Said the wrong thing
And dlt🫡
Otherwise she'll be scrapped for parts
She's high maintenance
I can get her ss from phantom cage
On electric ppc with a dual dps team with cw nana chargue blade how many ults do i do in nana rot, 1 or 2?
For tifa I assume?
Nana can one-shot all stages of tifa, but it does also depend on ur invest
I have qu human rights. gonna up that later when bianca patch selector is here 
Atp even im pivoting from shukra to Wata
But we do get another of the same selector on Bianca patch(?) so if my ice team rly lacking maybe I pick her up then
My Wata is sigless so I might just get 2 Alisa
ye
@fading kestrel told me Wata doesn’t need sig anymore

Great news for me cuz I can’t afford sigs for awhile
i havent looked yet
if the post that pinged me was about dmc, i will leak my legal name
What elements in ib?
YES!
me when i twist other people's words
@fading kestrel what’s dmc
too late nerd
@fading kestrel Do you know when DMC comes
I'm going to unlock it tomorrow
He literally said he only does 1 rot so he doesn’t need sig anymore
um
fire n lightning n trashslash
harmo has left the chat
Fire and light it is
Ew
harmo is always good. but we're talking Needs here
its not about the rot, so its not a need
all my homies vehemently avoid ultimaslash 💯
❌ light fire ts ✅ fire light glacio
ur so rel for ts
Let’s see if ss3 selena glacio will do better than my ss0 ts team
harmo is always a need
its just not high on prio compared to many other sigs
Gonna try this tomorrow
@fading kestrel I saw what you deleted 
i saw what you edited
I mean yea if u want harmo then every single sig is required
But I only consider sig required if u need it to perform the rotation
tbh I'd say wata sig is still good to get just for that reason
so vera can run 4shakes4cot for subdps while wata carries dv
wata best pick here?
(i have everyone at ss)
Which is relevant here because we’re talking abt him vs Qu Shukra who is unplayable without her sig
yes
ss3 qu is massive damage boost for herself
4dv 4 alphonso right?
ss3 qu basically flat 25% dmg boost
while it's good it doesn't benefit ice team besides raising her damage
while wata will increase everyone else's damage with extra shred
yes
@deft apex 
If I don’t have sig do I do 4 alphonso + 2 einsteina
one zone promo
I have her ss sigless, so i doubt i can one rot her
that's tough
U can still hit 580k w that, should take 2 rotations
and vera 4dv instead of 4shakes
might need one rot nana with cw cleanup then, or run a stronger off-ele team that isn't fire/dark
Holy slack
so someone informed me that element DOES NOT crit, and I have wasted a few units slots on ATK+Crit
I'm building Qu Shukra and the bot said "Any ATK 15"
what should I go for her? which ATK+15 should I roll for?
It’s literally any thing + ATK
there's 3 +15 atk stats, you can get any one of them
Don’t need to roll more
dont you want to specialize in a certain one?
no lol, no need to
hp and def are relatively useless


Is it possible for lantern memo to comeback?
oh well, lesson learned I guess
at least it's triple patch serum
true. I can fix my mistakes
up to kuro 
devs forgot. so doubt
may rerun may not
No Lantern account bricked
Physical team with ss3 pianissimo?

kuro needs to add kfc memo to global tho smh

but do you have a lantern 
I can make a real one
chicken burger meta frfr
Not in game tho 
Not anymore
Well i gues I'm 🧱😭
Delete account
ah fk. i have to play this now
It’s pain😭
Have fun
same
the new fatty
All ss0

xenolao pls pilot i dont wanna do ppc 
Hpflation is real😭
i dont even do my ppc anymore
pyroath / vera / nanami or watanabe ?


If u have wata it’s better than nanami
Wait veronica is plasma
is 600k on tifa with sigless nana good?
does ur acc have full s+ r3? no? not good enough for xenolao
which ping to start off for Qu? red blue or yellow?
Can you 1rot veronica?
maybe
S-Surely there will be no TS boss right…
ion dmg is busted
2slash 1eclipes or 4slash
Maybe we can just Glacio it
why do i feel a storm brewing
Glacio team’s backs are breaking
Is this good for all SS0 invest
Ain’t no storm cuz we’re skipping DMC
frfr
SKippp

for fire team ?
preach my bruda
Yup
skip dmc
sss+r3 liffu
I might actually skip dmc to ss3 Bianca
liffu?
What invest are those 
who tf is liffu
Liv
probably tbh, pyro's ion numbers are higher than her fire numbers
Liv im guessing😭
What memory shd 5 star weapon Watanabe Epitaph
bruh]
monzano at least won't be a problem
Nice glacio
Plasma 2.322 221
2 set Einstein or Shakespeare
even ss0 selena sneezes on monzano and she crumples like wet tissue
that's how strong glacio is
Everything else is ss0 111
Glacio is my most highly invested team
What's the name of the new frame of bianca?
Not alphonse?
walter
Capuscale or smth
crepuscule
I'm surprised I spelled that right
She’s one that also needs her SS3 right?
Maybe you like her
From what I heard it seems her dmg is kinda bad at ss0
I think it’s a great dmg boost than need SS3
But I blame daren
why alph use pyro and vera for dmg

She need ss3 yup skip dmc
oh hell no
she delayed the patch where daren surely dies(veronica pls dark tank)
kusogames absolutely fcked up schedule, I hate her
This is why bianca is being talked about bad just because someone said her Ss3 is the USUALLY SS3 UPGRADE nowadays yall saying Ss0 bianca is bad
I just don’t like her design 
Startrail is used together with Pyroath in both plasma and ignition teams.
Watanabe is only used together with Pyroath in fire team.
I have Vera Geiravor.
In this case, is it more reasonable to get Qu, or Watanabe?
i have startrail
Tho she looks hella cool with the modes 🔥
The gen 3 attacker ss3 upgrades are all massive
Ppc gives skulls
Which can get me at most 50 shards to ss a character
If I wanna ss3 a character I need 27 more
Where do I get more
for warzone you'll want alphonse
It’s expected atp
oh yeah is there a cub priority? for future reference ig
Still Wata, you use him in PPC. Unless you’re pulling Qu sig and give her DLT she’s basically useless
pull, it's the only way
Cool so ill just do 4 alphonse and 2 Einstein
Nanami and Wanshi’s are both rly good
for ppc you'll use 4 shakes 2 eins
hello, i got pyroath and epitaph. who should i put in the third spot jf if i dont have geiravor
However, in endgame, is there any Ice DPS that can replace Qu?
with my SSS Wanshi, before I found out elemental does not crit, I ended up doing this. Should I use sim exp to reroll the atk+15/crit+15 for later or just leave it as is?
do u have any amps?
Ishmael
ah ok. just those or any other that have decent value (for a cub)
Some dude said ppc gives more shards
How tho cuz ppc skulls give only 50 max no more
Wanshi zaza
empyrea if you have her
if not, ishmael
however you should really get geiravor
The substat is useless don’t reroll it, u only care abt the +ATK
This is fine
it doesn't, ppc only gives 30 for free ss
only way to get higher is to pull for dupes
aight thanks
ice team qu / lucid / ayla
Ishmael can copy Vera's stats if u have Ishmael use her on that team
secret third option: sss sophia 
have 2 dps in same team ?
i have in terms of amps, lilith and alisa echo
the other options are atk+hp and atk+def. hp and def do nothing for his damage
ah right, ish copies vera now
so doesnt really matter
That's on top of the 50 from the skull shop?
So it is possible to get ss3 as f2p?
2 attackers? No
2 dps? Yes
right
Wanshi in game role is a Tank, but optimal gameplay you have to swap between Qu and Wanshi
I said no several times, you have to pull
ppc is the skull shop and that only gives 30 shards for ss
What? Skull shop?
?? 30 is from skulls shop bruh where youre getting 50 from
Mb it's 30
The problem is Qu need SS, sig and DLT, that’s 3 more thing you gotta invest in, to make her usable 
Is bro trying to talk about the free dorm stuff we get or something
Bro is not comprehending just reading the texts lol
Thats the only thing you can buy 50 frags
pls censor the r*ad slur next time
its very offensive
Is there a Vera dps build?
team compo will always be amp tank atker, unless kuro decides to add another one
where pyro
4 Shakes 4 Cottie
Don't have one
haven't pulled the thunderbolt selector yet
not yet
lemme guess nanami from 40pity?
not until they release an new ice attacker
dont expect qu to be released anytime soon
think I’ll choose a tank, since I believe they will be more useful for me in the long run.
I’ve already gotten Rosetta, Tenebrion, and Startrail, so I guess getting Watanabe will benefit me more.
but there is a salvation
qu? whos that
im f2p
sorry was gonna say ice attacker
qu new leak?
Idk I forgor 
main dps ice amp when
Thankies, what about reso and harmo?
just look at cn stream and you can see who it is
Is there any character we can put in the Ice team instead of Qu?
i cant speak symbols
if vera solo she'll want hervor actually
accidental ping mb
For DPS Ult + ATK
hervor gives orbs for consistent solo
cn stream previewed a bunch of characters, surely you can find one of em 
oh uh its fine if you mind it ill turn mine off
idm cause ill never see the pings for me if i dont get notif
i just try to not ping people
yeah i forgot some people do that
but anyways
i wont confirm who, but looking at the previews for that cn stream you can tell who and what they will do
i dont wanna risk getting banned here
Does builds from the pins from Shi-Yori work?
who should i pick in here? https://huaxu.app/eu/players/29410969/characters
Explore the 44 characters of prizrak from the Europe server of Punishing: Gray Raven.
uhh its kinda correct?
Vera
....
Who do you have
4 sig 2 Shakes
??????
ss3 epi
How am I supposed to get the last bits of score in phantom pain cage? I always get close but idk is there a specific mechanic?
Can we update the bot for Vera build already 
this wz right?
It’s literally in the pins
ah i thought its vid

Fire WZ will always buff Vera now?
Does she do more dmg than Pyro?
*pins build
no harmo

Just started the game, whose weapon should I prioritize panissimo, lumia, Feral 21, solacetune, or nanami star trail?
??
Is Vera sig a must pull or nah
Piano
Any 2nd priorities?
Startrail
piano > yor > nana
Yor?
Hanying: Solacetune
yor
yor forger
Alright thanks!
Sorry if I got boring.
Should I take her weapon and get Shukra, or get Watanabe?
u can ditch lamia. she will be replaced in 2 patch.
Are you F2P?
yes
I don’t think F2P can backpull sig so don’t
wait what for real!???? I just got her from the selector

dmc will be back pull golden time
backpull?
I knew I should had gone with my qu
Should I pull Vera's Sig weap
Don't pull for sig unnecessarily as f2p.
Pulling non debut character
brik
reset acc
I don't think u have watanabe either
bricked fire team too wow
You won’t have enough for future if backpull

i can select her. i have blissful gift pack
completely messed up huh
yeah youre facked
yes. u could have gotten watanabe now and 2 patch later qu. ez clap. 
You can get her, but her sig will cost you pulls
Just don’t get her or her sig
I just started playing for pianissimo and wanted to get her whole best team, got the whole electro team for free, and I thought because Lilith was free with her whole stuff and she’s a good dark support the next best option was the dark type dps, lumia
this weapon banner always going to be 8/30?
Yeah pity doesn’t reset
cope with jetavie, she's gonna get replaced in the next next patch
How do bianca play without her sig wep?
as an F2P, I got Selena’s weapon and cub. Do you think I made a bad choice?
should have asked here before. bianca is new dark attacker. uses whip sword. releases the patch after dmc patch. which is the patch after next patch 
cub good but bad if f2p if u used bc
lilith also replaces lamia as main dark dps anyway
this ^^
so she's quite outclassed
Doesn’t pianissimo has like the same role as a dmc character too
no
investing selena is worth i think
selena is physical, vergil is ultima slash
Might be a bad choice purely bcs you’re F2P
is next patch confirmed to be a double?
Maybe starting on this game was a mistake 
nope, it's single dmc patch only
fak
Who’s better? Just say Selena, let me cope
kr got that so we're most likely gonna get that too
if u have enough to guarantee next meta character then yeah
selena is much better in physical content
selena
at least I made 1 good decision sold me with the violin
my message does not say anywhere that its gonna be a double. dmc patch is standalone.
who should get ss3 between watank and cuckra
watank
unc
i think i saw someone with 580k ts boss using glac team but idk if im misremembering
This chat is full of people skipping DMC
ah really? So they’re not good?
u gotta love selena for that.
Acaxi 580k Gwynplaine with Glacio
glacio can brute force a lot of stuff lol
Main DPS Set
Main DPS
High Difficulty, Pain Cage, Warzone, Clash Reflection, Norman
Recommended for all ranks
General DPS set
This is the non-Harmony build. If you're planning to eventually get Harmony for Shukra, it is recommended to just get 2pc Chen Jiyuan instead of Darwin right away
4x Ji Bo'an
2x Darwin
Top Slot : 6x Any ATK+15 Variant
Bottom Slot: 6x Signature
None
and yeah it can do 580k on the ts boss meant for vergil
So how much of a damage increase is bianca's CUB? Is it like nanami/wanshi Or pyroath?
when luna zaza: the leader skill also converted?
They are no doubt, but there are some caveats 
i love selena for myriad of reasons
they're meant for endgame-specific content
great wifey to have 
fak what invest
Should I use selector to ss3 Qu or Lamia?
ss3 wata
I was planning to just get maybe 1 copy for each of them and save up for my Selena’s costume, I think I should just stick to her, she’s the only reason why I started and who I want to invest in(let me cope)
Dawg what
ss3 epi
lamia is getting replaced, and qu only benefits herself even if it's a big damage buff
bianca crepes? paking crepes? nah pak this sh1t im out
Another way to do Gwynplaine without fire team. You really need that SSS Wanshi for -3s swap CD.
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Thanks
why'd the translated name have to be so convoluted anyway

why couldn't it be bianca twilight
Main Tank Set
Main Tank/Sub-DPS
High Difficulty, Pain Cage, Warzone, Clash Reflection, Norman
Recommended for all ranks
General Tank/Sub-DPS set
4x Liston
2x Einsteina
Top Slot : 6x Any ATK+15 Variant
Bottom Slot: 6x Signature
None
DAEG WHAT THE FYCK
damn
Does Wanshi need his signature?
So what would be the ideal start right now? Crimson and Feral are free, and there’s the patch selector, the one you get from pulling on the crimson wave event, and the 40 pull one
Yes
have u seen my ss 
More than qu?
@ashen lintel use #📨・bot-info for personal build commands
If you can pull it
Pull it
no
he does not need his sig to function his kit like qu who wants ss+sig+dlt
kay whel
K whale
Got it
no in terms of rotation, but it affects his damage greatly
if you have excess funds, his weapon is good to have
bruh its 223 ion and i missed 2 slashes at the end 
Who is worth it from the qu shukra selector?
epitaph
but his sig is a big dmg boost and u can put 8% shred reso which also boosts team dmg. its very beneficial to have.
harmo as well
At SSS with sig Wanshi > Qu SS?
can run 4pc chen to greatly boost shred + personal damage
yes
muh ice scores are so briked without ld sig
wanshi becomes main dps and does triple ults in later wz waves to pick up qu's slack
i must take a break now. need to charge mobile. gn ppl.
bb
At sss Wanshi can single 2ndult ppc bosses it's a qol
I have two questions that I never got an actual answer to:
When you have a 4pc and a 2pc they will have an optimal place of going for example 4pc top and 2pc bottom but how does it actually work? Like Ik the bottom and top impact different stats but you'll still get 3 at top and at bottom so you're supposed to get the same stats anyway, Unless some sets get a bigger impact when placed at the bottom or top?
The other question is abt resonances: ppl would say that you have for example to get atk top and core passive bottom but I seem to get atk and crit bottom too, so what would happen if I get a core passive in the top resonance and atk in the bottom?
(I am a new player and I'd rather understand how stuff works rather than put this piece in this place without knowing the how and why)
Higher atk memory goes at bottom since top memory slots only give crit/hp
In a long-term investment, who would be more worthwhile? Nanami, Ishmael, or saving for a future character? I need new teams, I don't know if I'll get the best Nihil character or the best Electric
Where is the 2nd question
Nanami
Nanami Startrail
On the choice banner (blue ticket)
I just added it mb
You can only get certain resos on top/ bottom of a memory.
Some memories have a higher base atk?
Like you can't roll sig skill on top slot
Yes
Top can only have Red Blue Yellow Basic and 3 ATK
Bot can have those and Class Core Ult
Does the minmax command still work
That means core passive is the rarest?
ATK : 32
DEF : 55
CRIT : 16
HP : 368
ATK : 132
DEF : 223
CRIT: 67
HP : 1461
idk about the % of each, but doesn't matter anyways
no, all have the same chance of appearing
just that some resonances can't appear in the top/bottom
for example you can't have orb resonances in the bottom slot
the one that you need is always the rarest 🗣️
You can just spam reso reroll and get the resos you want anyways
Reso selector kinda loses value in endgame 
does it have value early game
Yeah cuz you will be low on materials as you're building everyone
It loses value?
Tell that to the Vera class reso which took 28tries for me to get

Also damn, long time no see
I see you still haven't let go of your Empyrea dreams
It's like having 1k when you're broke and when you're rich
Now u wanna know the crazy part?
Vera uses 4 shakes 4 cottie with ult reso 
whyre all the old active people showing up today 
Assuming ss



