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Prolly pyroath? I'm not sure
thank uu
Pyroath
Nanami is definitely more self sufficient than pyroath tho
R2 vera or R1 Alisa
Ur choice, whatever u want
Vera more longevity tho
R2 Geiravor can be used as your alternative Amplifier support when you lack a support for other team
👌 thank you
Well i have SSS lilith r2
K whel
I'm f2p man😭
k whel
Now show us IB. Don't be shy
i havent even touched it
🧢
How much harder is IB?
Warzone mode but simpler
can't even do phys without lackluster result
is slow ?
8/8/10 ye
the chaos was already done though
did u save 11 hell
10 hell
9 knight then
should have used balter at knight
brah
cuz she faster than ss3 sel
what
8 with selena? tf
8 with balter
ye fd tech
spam dodge fast
if sss sel ye


Fate banner ever worth a try?
no
Gamble on 0.5%
Ye 0.5% is pretty high rates
I've seen worse with no pity
finally, wave 31
SS wata or vera first?
lets gooo
What a whel
funny how legend is pretty much double the score of hero 
Vera geiravor is better than SS3 lilith in void teams?
Pretty sure his Selena is sss
If ur Ishmael is ss3 and above
k whel
Guys, is it worth getting Hanying even though she will only use her 5 star weapon?
If not i will make nanami ss3
now where's your 10 mil
i gave up
yes

i wanna sleep

i see the way
but damn am i bad at direction
So i should try to get geiravor? cuz my ish is ss3 and i dont have anymore black cards

think lantern is better than gloria ?
Generally not recommended to skip anyone in this game
DMC is skippable, u can go for vera
I see more than 4 in my bracket that does not show their profile
surely they wont snipe me
Wtf whel
maybe in extended run
I might stick to lilith for now because im currently poor and i just finished my physical team
but overall gloria is more preferred
hey I know you're in legend too
u know whats crazy
this channel is very useful 
this is ult2 without amp buff
I'm pleb score
yippee im out of ticket debt 😄 here i come vera
how do we tell which one is better until there is fire wz to test
who rotates better without ss
which one do I prioritize
Burning On
Casting Shadowhunt Tremor, Hellfire Crucible, Razor Whirlwind, Rending Ravage, or Scorched in Void will activate all available QTEs.
Pinging Blue Orbs generates 50% more Yellow Orbs. Every 1 Blue Orb pinged generates 1 Yellow Orb.
- Casting a fully charged Shadowhunt Tremor automatically pings a maximum of 3 existing Blue Orbs.
- When Absolute Pyre is active, Scorched in Void deals damage 1/1/2/2/3/3 more times based on 1/2/3/4/5/6 Yellow Orbs cleared by Tempered in Midnight.
Who uses Klenova memory set?
glacio selena
New bianca can get alot of energy for her ult right?
@frank kindle dms
if i were to pick between SS3 nanami and SSS hanying which better?
Both have Sig ?
yea
how about just get both
can only pick one
You'd have a friend and a mother
yea thats my only dilemma in making her SSS
Bruh why do Rounds not start on Mondays if they get these kinds of missions?
So apparently Daren can have shred on TLC IF she's in Ion mode
okay, somehow i malded enough for 32 wave 
I learn this AFTER this WZ cycle ended
top 100 hero 
GG
should i be tryna buy something with these trade vouchers?
Wanshi
even if already ss?
crazy?
His sss is balls crazy
Don't do it
they locked me in a room
holy snipe ^8
Guy in 3rd place is not happy
asdjkakgjhaljfhasljhdnaljfhaljfas
u missed the crit
am i stupid for buying the 6 star weapon resonance by using voucher
yes
i am considering it
that's the neat part
whale
if u already have all the relevant unit at SSS i think buying weapon reso will give better score than sss3
cause sss3 cost like 2-3x weap reso
though if u already have overflow shop unlocked now that becomes debatable
cause u have access to newer units ss3 easier
i dont even remember how i managed to get many resos
not a frequent bp buyer
anyone wanna do my ppc?
just play the game
after a while you just get enough
love that
i have so much dailies to do 
can u do my dailies while you are at it
ok ill do ur dailies, u do my weeklies

Your bracket is so easy
Mine was so annoying
Do his ppc and save a 1minute run on each boss
Me who got s+ wanshi and sss6 lilith..
1minute???
5minute
Much better

best weapon for alisa ultima slash build?
Chat, do I 3s wanshi or alisa?
Also, do I pull wanshi weap with only 9k bc or do I save for dmc?
Pretty sure it sig
wanshi
does glaciation have crit? why is the dmg inconsistent
the amount of times waves survive by 1 hp is so annoying
elements dont crit
does crit even exist?
and/or grouping
i might be just tripping
only float
man why cant i install pc client
I c, should I pull his weap or do I save for dmc? I've 9k bc
also wanshi shooting 1 guy while the other is a little to the side 
pull his weap
esp her hold ba
he has more value as he is in multiple teams, besides u can still pull dmc regardless
yes
there is still like 25K ? worth of BC left in the patch
her hold ba is so inconsistent
and then add another 10K on the dmc patch itself
what happened to these?

idk i kinda have mixed feedbacks, people say she can use any bow
I have a question about my Fire Team
I've been seeing a lot of the new rotation for Low Invest Geiravor that needs Cottie + DLT, but I dunno if that's still the optimal rotation for her when the team invest is 2.332
Is it worth taking the plunge or nah?
ur team is 2.332?
If you want best weap, it's sig imo
geiravor should be using 4dv2guin
I only got that kind of invest cuz I got lucky 
Coz glorious spear and superconducting axial ray or something like that
Plus the extra mem bonus
cottie is an option if geiravor is ur highest damage output
but since ur 2.332 she goes 4dv
What does 2.332 mean
wtf altera being helpful
wdym im always helpful to those who actually does some research themselves
i aint here to spoonfeed
Same goes for me 
ok bozo
sybau migu
I already built 4 DV 4 Guin but I was questioning my decision cuz I saw her 2 Ult rotation going crazy 
the problem with her is that she takes too long to get the damage out
need more amps like lilith
oh wait liv inc
you'll see a lot of the commands if you just type "/"
So my fire team gon be 2.312121 then? 
2.31 21 21?
444333111 
I understand it now
2.633312111
whel
you got the minimum stuff needed for the team at least
2.33.33.2221111
you're gonna have some fun with 4 Shakes 4 Cottie Geiravor tho 
cuz if everyone's at low invest, iirc Geiravor will deal higher dmg than Epitaph
So fire is 2.322 111 111
Phys 222 111 111
Ice 22.31 100 100
Light 22.32 111 111
Dark 002.3 001 001
Void 222 111 111
Glacio 222 101 101
Plasma 2.322 111 111

wow whel

whel
Dark team lowest invest, 1/3 chars
Ice team is second, full char but 1/3 weap only
imagine getting called out as whel by 444 333 111 havers
I'm no whel

she's farmable no?
Msg took 10 business days to arrive, and no
I've lilith only
oh
This was supposed to be a msg for oatmeal
Lilith do most of the dmg so I regarded her as attacker for that one
Imma semantic everything 
gotta follow the grammar otherwise its misleading
Aight, I'ma fix it rq

you mean ordering?
I have SS Pyroath with dlt
Should I use sig memories on Vera and resonate them ?
Or just Da Vinci
does anyone have an idea of optimal investment for walter
like if she wants ss3 or sth
kinda affects how i pull in the future
no more sync patches 🥀
Go Da Vinci, Guin
https://youtu.be/nvBcc8GOEqM?si=AM4ZFi_86D_p3xWX what build should I use on lamia when I dont have lantern?
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-# tbh no idea, she only does more than 1 rot on light affix, on dark she still practically is a sub-dps 1 rot
Ik I got some help yesterday it seems like it didn't work
shes so weak?
lilith still hard carries
no, just not practical to stay in
Walter is so slow lmao
i mean prob cuz long rot to get time stop
idk bruh
they better make new dark tank op
2-4-2 lilith still goat
from what i can see from cn pgr wiki its the usual 1000% qte dmg and more dmg overall
i dont think her rot would change much at all
I wasted 30 skulls on lilith instead of vera
my dark team is homeless
she's SS3 now, but I gotta 3S wanshi first
does anyone has the latest cub list to pull?
I wasn't even able to get intensive battle because of Primal Projection
SS3 btw
still same as the one in pinned comments
I need help
https://huaxu.app/ap/players/11724870/characters/1321003 what weap reso should I equip on ish after dd?
Ishmael: Parhelion of ᜄᜓᜃᜓ Rion from the Asia-Pacific server of Punishing: Gray Raven.
im using firefly's rot for glacio, yet whenever i swap into selena and do her rot, i cant seem to do my first ult without having to ba
could anyone help
Matrix dont work cuz she's not on field
She's not a amp also
Should I waste my weap reso to r2 lilith?
Ig no wants to help me
She's just a qte bot tank
dd and axial ray is good
Hmmmmm maybe
tbh you dont need r2 if youre just using for tank qte bot
if that's the reason youre getting r2 then just save your usb
You used 4 Klenova right? He used 2Kle 2Cottie, that's why you need ba hold after matrix pin.
To be fast: 3p > hold ba (don't move your finger and keep holding) and pin matrix orb, it's will auto connect and use ult -1.
If ur on mobile, and struggle w the faster rotations, I like to move the ult button to the left side of the screen next to the joystick
dw im on pc
Cuz realistically most characters ur not touching the joystick
Ah I see. I have a pc but i kind of refuse to re-learn the controls🤣
So I’m just aggressively tapping away at my iPad
SS to SS3 4Klenova, SSS-S+ 2Kle 2Cottie
what do you guys think about using selector on echo to get sss faster i got ss0 wu and no wata
sss echo kinda huge for glacio
ooh me too but i have ss0 wata and ss0 qu with ss0 alisa ig
just swipe more
speaking of can someone tell me the input rots for echo and Selena in the vid
how big difference is ss3 vera geravoir compared to ss0
I don't need to upgrade Yellow Orb for Vera ?
u upgrade every skill for vera
He show his invest in that vid at the end
Should get wata unless you can't get his Sig or have 3s / ss3 nanami or Ishmael
Otherwise SSS Alisa is a good idea
And she benefits two teams, everyone else there only benefits one team
10% more fire dmg buff and darkflow - also buffs her dmg much more.
Not a must though, ss0 still functions completely fine
so it's now worth getting it?
Not before Selena I would say, also depends if you spend or not.
If not spending then you should save BC for next character
If you want input, this vid is good to follow
no. just no.
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0:00 - Information
0:15 - Run
3:11 - Dont Ult Alisa here
3:40 - Alisa triple Ult
4:17 - Selena Flower Ult
4:57 - Builds
im not gonna get his sig cuz very low value i do have ss3 nanami
Ah then you can just cope with her then
qu ss3 is meh since ice is kinda weak anyways
If we count TS, she meta in 3 team 😁
what im contemplating is wata for ppc
In Ppc you will have not so good time if there is light and fire or fire and void boss xd
Or wait I forget void doesn't have ultimate boss lmao
yes that's what im thinking
but i can use ishmael for fire too
would ishmael be better for fire or nanami
should i get qu shukra from the free s rank selector?
but then the mem placements
If you don't have Qu, then yes, but you need her sig to be playable.
Also notice, she is not much worth to invest imo, but if you can effort her sig, just go for her, if not just suffer with dlt solo wanshi.
im using 4 shake 4 cottie on vera
Ish is 4 DV 4 Sig, nanami 4 DV 4 Sig also I think
hm
Main DPS Set
Main DPS
High Difficulty, Pain Cage, Warzone, Clash Reflection, Norman
Recommended for all ranks
General DPS
4x Herschell
2x Heisen
Top Slot : 6x Any ATK+15 Variant
Bottom Slot: 6x Signature
Heisen
well ish gets like no on field time so idk about her sig mems
Did cn ever got narwhal pt2 ingame music?
ATK increases by 5% and Lightning DMG and Ignition DMG increase by 5%.
Thunderfire Domain inflicts Resistance Reduction while dealing damage for 8s. QTE continuous damage also applies Resistance Reduction for 2s. Base DMG of Cosmic Starstrike and Starshard Slash is doubled, and casting them grants two Signal Orbs, prioritizing 3-Ping Orb combinations.
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is qu really strong with sig?
Nihil DMG increases by 10%.
Casting Phantom Annihilation grants 18/36/36/36/54 Collapse Points based on the hit count. Casting Ethereal Mirage grants 150 Phantom Points immediately. Casting Dimensional Collapse increases Base DMG of the next Signature - Silent Punishment by 100%. When hitting enemies with Hyperspace Realm as a Tank, reduces enemy Elemental Resistance based on Observation Notes. When Hyperspace Realm is active, as an Amplifier, heals allies for 8% of ATK per second and increases their Elemental DMG based on Observation Notes.
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Sig + dlt actually to be playable, she is orb eater
wait her sig mem gives debuffs
so she is not really worth it?
She is worth it because ice team sucks without herb
You just need to get sig dlt or run a cope team
ice team sucks with and without her
She is still meta in Ice but like I said you need Sig + Dlt
what about her evo?
Wanshi can do fine without her
You would know 
She has a high impact in ice obviously but wanshi can complete everything alone
I just think it's a no brainer to be running a swap team
If I was new player now I would forget the old ones that are gonna get the boot stick soon
Cause catching up with sigs and reso for older char is not ideal
30k voucher from bp 1 copy from selector and 15 shards from shard selector should be enough to sss echo from ss0?
Qu isn't dead but there is more important invests to focus
Close but not enough
That should be enough for around 80-85
Not like base qu will even do much Dx S is super pain, she needs sig too Dx
Start funding us fake f2p 
close enough
Then also kinda needs dlt to see good results with score
i think my bp might give a bit more
Sorry I used all my reso alr xd
It should yeah
if not i need to grind matrix
Need 8 more shards for SSS Lilith ♿
Also @rocky wedge should I get s+ cw or sss3 alisa
Yall talking about the selector?
How much u got matrix?
Then my acc cooking again
Others?
Alisa I guess, alpha getting worse and worse

finished cw 70/120 tundra
Unless you want S+ alpha for collection
i think im fine
sss echo by at most end of this patch
ss0 is so ass its not funny
my wanshi is ss3 without sig and he is already doing good in challenges so i shouldn't need qu then?
............... Not me with S alisa
From selector?
yeah
Who do you already have from the selector?
She needs sig memory to have off field dmg apply shred
ah i see
Is vera a necessary pull?
thats good i think ill just harm 4 dv on ishmael
(I already got her but my friend is asking, hes got SS Solaeter)
Yes, ss solaeter sucks
Even at base S already better than empy
is alisa ult damage kinda impactful in glacio?
cause in physical its so unbelievably negligible
Thanks
Vera has SSS amp passive at SS and 10% more fire dmg buff since its not locked to SSS like solaeter
watanabe, baldur and everything else you get for free like cw
i don't need lamia
Anybody upgrades yellow orb for Vera?
Not after leap and yes, more impactful then alpha xD
How much stronger is pyroath With SS? She's S5 right now
alright ima get her up with these shard selectors
Theres a selector again up to qu in bianca patch
ss0 for basic efficient rot
I'm using her at S5 right now doesn't seem to do that much.
how did you know that knd of information
SS you could view as double the power
Cn
It's kinda like that since S is so painful
You see a big difference after SS rank in the characters performance
Might get SS this week if we get the new bosses
Alisa glacio rot anyone?
Global is independent now
We dont know whats next even wz
hd 3x d hb ult
Kr and us same no?
Her dmg depend on how much orb you use, the reason she need dlt in glacio 😁😁 dlt echo does more dmg than without dlt echo
3x dodge
oh what
What now
you can do that
Man I don't wanna waste reso on alisa for DLT

Ss0?
yea
Just deal without it if you can't afford to, I am in same boat
Since DMC is 1x patch all my plans have been Thwarted
Swap in> 3ping > hold basic > 3ping > hold basic >3ping> ult 1 > hold dodge > hold basic > 6 whites> concert ult
Kuro should of done A rank after DMC
Or a free dorm S rank
I swear of we don't get a free S rank after these back to back S rank I'll riot
It better be a free dark tank too
Bruh, he asking Alisa not selena xD
Ih yea
is this legit? the new bianca frame patch?
Oh brain died
Yes
nice
Alisa is just swap> hold dodge> dodge 3x > hold basic > ult
I thought he’s asking about selena i didnt read the alisa part only the glacio
Did you read wata's Sig memory? : D
Can do that, tho bare in mind I beat my dalao by 500k with one less weapon reso on Lucia with DPS Vera xD
My lao was using wata with Alphonse shake + DV Guin Vera
They had 6.79mil and probably could of done more, but not sure if they would of hit over 7m since Vera does a lot of damage, I've never seen a legend boss melt so fast lmao 🫨
You can literally feel the impact of how her ult looks xD feels like it's ripping wz apart
Visiting legend zone time is over, bye bye 😅😅
Snazz you know the zaza vera tech?
Okay
4 Da Vinci 2 Guin right
He used it
On how it impacts the score
That's what rydle did already then I did it after with ss0
Did it perform better or worse?
I will use that too if we have fire tomorrow 😁
Way better
Well ig time to build cottie vera
I didn't figure the DV rot out properly but my dalao had less score then me by like 400k with R2 Lucia
And mine is R1 but I was using shake cottie Vera, they were using DV Guin Vera
So ye I think it's no brainer, may also be similar for whales with SS wata
If vera runs shakes do i need to switch wata memories
With SSS wata not sure if it's worth
Yes 4 Sig (Alphonse) 4 dv
Whoops wrong sorry
Ahh wata runs the dv
Like someone else ig may of not read, but wata's off field rockets don't shred fire res without his Sig set
And it is important because tank class shred + ele shred benefits your damage tenfold
What’s the input for the vera zaza strat again
If you have R2 wata I highly suggest running class extension + DD
He kinda really wants that shred extensions ngl xd
With this setup
It's actually really easy, one of rydles views figured a very easy way
You got upload the video on youtube dalao shifu?
After ult 1:
3r > dodge > 3r > hold ba (hold the entire time until you ult) > dodge twice > let 3rd hold BA animation play and spam ult
You can just hold ba the whole time and Vera will do all 3 parts of her core, don't need to Hold BA individually each time
Because of that, when you dodge twice after Hold BA - the first two animations get cancelled immediately lmao then you go straight into 3rd
But ye have to be so fast and consistently each time, that is the biggest difficulty I would say
Holy
For qtes I would follow my video unless you don't have tank extension reso
What should I harmonize my vera fire's sig, I use 2 ein 4 shake on wata epitaph and on vera I have 2 gui 4 davin
Thats why you use cottie
Ye
Ahh
Without cottie, you can time cancels perfect and still won't have enough energy
Yea i cant ult
Its weird lmao but ye I don't think further than that with this game x)
Like also all invest differences will change builds sigh
Yes
Do you need to harmonized anyone else?
Some characters are more important before Vera, like Selena for example
uhhh I need advise on which memo should I harmonize my vera sig with
Guin, Ein and cottie
Since you went with dv set already, you can do Guin first on the weapon
With guin
4 dv 4 guin?
Aight ill commit to this
Yebo
Ngl its easy to mess up the timing
Ye Dx
One wrong input
thanks 
vera dodge cancel strat is easy tho
u can just spam
at least thats how i did it
Wait why do i have shakes on pyro
depends on if timesave better than guin tho

where's the dodge cancel ?
Question is

Will this reso do for Selena
ye for dv set
core ?
Yeah
Zaza strat
yes it good
call it parry cancel instead if u want ig
Alr
i didnt 'dodge' as in move i just did her stationary dodge
vera cottie is zaza
This zaza strat
ah yes but the thing is I can't really see exactly when u did it

Just keep on eye on his dodge buttom, he did twice while holding ba
if u played vera a lot before it should be obvious
well not even a lot if uve just seen how she plays
ye thats fine too
it remains to be seen if this timesave for sss is better than 4guin
dmg wise ofc its worse but depends on if that dmg matters in wz
ye its actually a really fun way to play her
Btw can I just hold ba > 3p > ult > and do the rot ?
Or 3p + 3p is faster?
And better

if u can avoid hold ba do it
but it's less dmg no ?
without cottie ss0 requires hold ba iirc
actually not a lot
Its a lot more dmg
Because faster and more time
stop the cook
the dmg diff comes from not having guin/eins for lucia and wata
but again this is wz maybe it doesnt matter maybe it does
zaza is zaza for a reason
ngl we'll need someone making the dmg calculations
She wants amp passive reso for this zaza strat?
which cubs provide the most benefit?
with ss0 u prob want dlt
thatll worsen the dmg diff tho
depends on who's holding it
bruh wtf is this strat ?
zaza
What I see is wrong qte and ult rank stats didn't full
even that bro with a proper team even with a shite rotation u can definitely kill at 14s
Ss0 wants the dear cub for extra orb
Otherwise not enough orbs for 2nd rotation
- dlt?
Yea
lol
I lack 1 orb
ss0 is cooked
could be 11.5 or 11.6 if i was faster, alas im too tired to redo it again
Zone: Duo Elite
Weather: Harrowing Freeze (60% Glacio DMG on 3Ping)
SS3 Selena R3 SS cub | 4 Burana 4 Klenova (6 Atk + 6 Core)
SSS6 Wanshi R3 SS cub | 4 Liston 4 Chen Jiyuan (6 Red + 6 Class)
SSS0 Alisa R3 SS Squid | 4 Davinci 4 Guinevere (6 Atk + 6 Class)
eu shafted
nice thumbnail 
iceberg
no way 😭
Why I can only get 5 concerto orb with this build
are u using DLT on selena
Yes
check again
it's right there. I did the same combo as you in the video
whats ur input before ult1
r2 whel
I meant to ask which signature cubs benefit their respective characters the most? Basically which ones should I try to get
Why are you replying to me
Selena's good
I happen to have that one lol. Any others?
hey new to PGR who should I pull for rn?
for her on that specific banner
3 ping -> Hold BA -> matrix ping ➜ 3 ping ➜ Ult 1
where is ur second hold ba
humm... I can't really recommend back pulling
oh there is, I will check it
also Vera cub cannot tell
so on the fate themed construct?
I’m on jp lol. Do we know if bianca’s is good?
theme event not fate
ah okay ty ty
didn't get it on my cn acc
cannot tell as well
if u are doing 3p > hb > 3p > hb u should have 6 concerto still
the only time u get 5 is if ur selena doesnt have DLT
yea 3p > hb > 3p > hb is the default to unlock ult1 without cottie
u can add in another 3p and even another 3p + hb like i did for breakpoints sake
though that makes the run really tight as u can see from the video
Damn where do you get the build. All youtube video tell you to go cottie 
cottie is only for 3S selena
and of course physical selena
glacio selena only does 1 rot so cottie is not really valuable
Obviously it's trusted, moonglaive is one of most guild that have ppc malder there
wadapak do I do here
kill boss fast
Bro
l l l l lamia
Hi! I haven't played in a while (as in, I don't have Lamia, and my Dark DPS is SS3 Luna - not the Nihil one, the Dark one (
). Is SSS+ Jetavie better than Luna? 
Yep! Just need to log in for a few more days and I can get her and quickly get her up to SS3 at least with her Sig and Cub for free too!
Yes, but lilith is better than all
ok
does she do 2 rotation then swap?
Not there yet unfortunately, will be soon though! And in that case, as I have SSS Empyrea, should I miss out on Vera Amp and save for Dark Bianca?
Anyway, for a srs answer
You need to triple ult with dlt
Vera amp is much better than empyrea
Both in damage and buffing capabilities
No, SS0 is fine
Oh really? That's awesome!
Amps nowadays have old SSS amp benefits at SS
Right, okay! That's amazing!
So that means vera has 20% atk 20% elemental damage at ss already
Continuing off srs answer
Do 2x two stack ults, then do a 5 stack ult on last rot to kill
Not really in terms of "does it affect rotation", but it does boost personal damage and team damage by quite a bit
(sorry for all the questions btw, just trying to get back into the swing of things after nt playing in over a year
)
Ofc if you don't have the funds to roll for it because you're saving for dmc, it's not necessary
My empyrea is still running a 5* and she's been working fine
It's fine, questions are good
I'm not too bothered by the DMC collab I'll be honest - if the Bianca patch is at the same time, she'll be my priority I think
so im trying to clear ishmael ppc, should i use scire still or use another tank with luna?
Where's Ishmael?
man
Wait why is lilith cubless
Oh wait
This is
Dark ppc

yes
Luna as in, luna oblivion?
Do you have lilith?
si senor, sss
Still tho
Lilith support
Lamia qte bot
Ishmael tank maybe?
You could go with luna + gen 3 tank but I don't think Lilith alone can clear the boss on time
lilith can
Lilith currently is the only character than can reliably 600k this boss, if not the only one that can
Don't even think lamia can 600k it
Lilith and lamia would need to work together no?
Huh
Anyways
If Lilith can do it solo luna + wanshi prolly
Wanshi cause I assume you've got him on ss3
yessss i do
I used double amp zaza for peojection clears last I remember
no way really 💀
would shred not be a better option?
did you mean dual tank or sumn lmfao
that would be crazy 2
oh i forgor.... madorea this week... wanshi is used
nanami it is?
Yeah
okey i try
She's the best qte bot when it comes to tank
really??
She's the only tank other than garnet that has a shred field qte
arutimeto qte yaaaaa
Use heisen
Luna will convert shred to omni-shred anyway
So no need to build an additional set
a what
like a linger hitbox shred
kinda
aoe shred field
nanami is currently the only one who has aoe shred field on qte that goes through timestop
making her the best tank kinda by far
for cope strats at least
which amps have the fastest qte?
oh word
Yeah it's luna's class passive
i know yes
head not working
what else should i put on nanami? luna is on da vinki, gloria, eins
oho
ohoho
well im getting sleepy
im just gonna use whatever is already on nanami and call it a day 
not obli?
ofcccc with obli man 
no i mean the fastest qte among all units
then i'm trippin balls
U can press qu's qte with a dv holder at the same time and qu's 2nd qte will be up again
ye
is ss3 epitaph or shukra more useful w the s rank selector? no oblivion to choose from right?
useful eptiaph cause of shred
also should i give pianis 3r?
i can buy 2s3 wata with skulls... is it worth it or do i just leave it be
Is Vera Geivaror really good for Dante team?
yeah, fire amp which dante is
You can't spend a couple vouchers or skulls to get her ss0?
You should've gotten 20 shards for free
hey guys, need help deciding between ss3 wata, lamia, or ss3 qu shukra with the upcoming S rank selector. I have wata and lamia sig but not lamia's, and with new bianca coming idk if getting lamia is useful at all
lilith ranks don't affect rotations, they only boosts dmg. also, she has flexible rots depending on your situation on field and content
alright, many thanks 🙏
i get empy, and one more empy from selector in bianca patch 
@shy jackal btw our DMC patch is from 6th August to 19th September
who is the sub dps in a team of pyroath epitaph and geiravor?
rot for SSS0 liltih?
Geiravor + epitaph
Both are subdps
so i use alternative dps set for her?
Rotation depends on the situation, but the most basic one is:
2x blue > ult > yellow 3p > red > yellow 3p > red > yellow 3p > red > ult
Does that use hervor? If so then no
Use 4dv support set
Geiravor will still do damage and rotate on field
the dps set uses 4 harvor and 2 cottie
So wata ss3 > base lamia with no sig ?
Yes
tysm 🙏
For what, ppc?
Your lilith is ss3 btw
And yes 580k is very much possible, 600k even too
does liltih SSS0 rot change from SS rot?
You don't have dv
Luna has 4pc heisen 2pc gloria 2pc eins
Nanami 4pc herschell 4pc heisen
will we get a S rank on the base banner in dmc patch?
It'll be updated to include units up to geiravor
They're much worse supports so it's not that big of a surprise tbh
so we arent getting one
No, base banner isn't being reset

Vera animation cancels👌
✅
Omg u can do it so much faster btw
I wasn’t watching the animation carefully
(Prob no one cares I’m sry but ta-daaaaa)
You are doing 1 thing wrong here
Can I go EVEN FASTER
Dodge cancel the first blue > cancel the 2nd blue with ult > dodge cancel the first red > pair the 2nd red with first hold BA which gets dodge cancelled > do the rest like you are
Orb animations only are worth it for single rot
But still you dodge cancel them
Ohhh I thought I might run out of dodge gauge if I tried dodge cancel on the red
Watch Rydle's video
So my blue is right I just need to cancel the red animations too
First red
So 2rot ss0 is possible but maldy
You clearly have never experienced shakes wata 2rot 
You never experienced double rot wata
That was pure hell
Specially with Shakespeare
Wym that was pure fun

We need more shakes wata characters
No
It was hell for my fingers
Masochist
hey guys, on my alt account i am missing qu shukra and watanabe, which one should i get if they are the only missing piece to a full team of each respective element ?
Well when you've trained your fingers to be a macro anything's easy 
oh fk wata double rot that gave me an aneurysm to learn
Git gud smh
from what i have understood wata is slightly better but why so ? qu shukra is the dps and im missing her and wata is just tank. Can't ishmael sort of fill in the tank role for fire team ?
Is the rot on rydle channel?
Yes
Think I got it
ish can fill fire tank but shes basically gonna be a qte bot, better if you send your huaxu
Although maybe I can cancel the first hold basic even faster?
Ish is worse
I never thought I'd see the day
so what would the better pick be ? wata or shukra ? if i have both sigs
She can fill the spot but overall team damage will not be as good as with wata
is nanami better ? i dont have nanami sig either (nor do i have ish sig)
Omg wait I can do triple Vera rot like this
do you have wanshi lucid dreamer ?
yeah that's to be expected
Def suboptimal, but she has just enough orbs for 3🤣
is your vera ssr1?
yeah, i have him and ayla, both close to sss
Yeah she’s got DLT
Wondering if it’s worth with Nanami just doing a single chainsaw spin and ulting
Id prolly get wata then, what about your fire team?
what is the most damage dealing move in pyroaths kit?
SSr1 pyroath along SS vera 5* weapon
wata 100% then, you have sig then tho right?
Star buffed eclipse ult
yeah, wata sig and qu shukra sig
Explore the 55 characters of Aphiou from the Europe server of Punishing: Gray Raven.
WE LOVE WATA
Don't even try
It's not even close to optimal
Hahaha ik
might be of help
I hope I can score over 4M in hero fire wz like this
Optimized rots but no Wata😭
Ig Nanami hold Einsteina w 4dv
Veronica fire tank pweaseeeee
get wata from the selector
Nooo but I need Qu Shukra

Like it’s objectively better for me to have Shukra so my ice team can actually rotate
Fck no
Dark tank needs replacement
Wata isn't even one year yet
dont u have sss bridget
But it’s unlikely they’ll replace 2 members of the same team in a row no?
He's only 8 months old rn
and if u have pyro and vera sig should be ez 4.5m
Bianca replaces lamia
But we’re also syncing with CN, and he’s been around much longer for them
Daren has been in meta for 1200+ days
It's about time she dies
I’m just sayingggg
on global, and thats only cuz of sync too
It could happen
he is old on cn
Ik it’ll make global ppl that pulled for him mad tho
Bunch of ppl said they’ll quit if Wata gets replaced by Veronica
lol
karen gets replaced by veronica

why is wata the better pick tho ?
i hope they kill wata
(ty for the help btw)
Ugh I have no resources left to build another character
Constructing all meta teams from scratch in 1 month was a lot
Your fire scores will be higher, and ig about equal to your ice teams wz scores now
I’ll have to dump a few thousand serum and brute force Shukra’s memories and everything
I’m even out of hyper tune😭Vera’s sitting on 1 hypertuned reso
It's overall higher team damage(himself + pyro + vera)
Qu only improves her own damage with her ss3
Shukra only comes on field briefly in ice team now right? She does a quick + full ult and then the rest of the field time is Wanshi?
No, qu is still ice mdps and doss two strong ults
qu still does alot of dmg
Does Ayla even get rotated in or is she just qte
u only play qu wanshi in ice onfield
Even if it’s SS0 Qu vs SSS Wanshi? Well ig Qu rot doesn’t change either way it’s 1 fast ult 1 full
Swap off
yes ofc
qte slavery
😩
do it
Qu always does 2 strong, never 1 fast 1 strong
Overall lower score if you do the latter
She has enough orbs to do 2 full ults?
Yes
sig and dlt yes
Spider2B failed me😭😭
is there a point of getting qu if ion feel like pulling her sig
im close to sss wanshi
No tbh
Most ppl say she doesn’t work without sig and SS
She's completely cucked without her sig
id rather save for bianca than backpull for qukras sig
I think atp I’ll just dump some RC and grab the sig selector

That was during his misinfo arc
If I dont wanna use a reso on qu then I can use 1 fast one strong right
I can’t figure out what rydle is doing with pyro’s double ult rot
I always did fast into full ult but he does it the other way around
I feel your pain
So after full ult is it red + red + basic + red?
is that ss3 pyro rot?
Should've been able to get higher ngl
No it’s all SS0 in his vid
Oh not Rydle sorry
Lovely pfp 
But yeah dark is bad with daren
Snazz
I tried slowing it down but I’m still not sure what he’s doing cuz pyro is very new to me https://youtu.be/DotTSBGnhh8?si=O7b6Eatn5RX0SpOb
Weather: Lucia - Builds below in text~
Leader - Vera
Lucia SS0 4 Sig 4 Cottie R1 (DLT)
Wata SS3 4 Sig 4 Da Vinci R2 (8s Class + Shred)
Vera SS0 4 Shakespeare 4 Cottie R3 (DLT, 8% Atk, 10% Atk)
I am very happy this rotation is a thing, since it gives wife more field time xd
Vera is pretty satisfying, especially with all these cancels compared...
is it just bar that confuses you?
Oh nvm he does fast into full
I’m hallucinating💀 ignore me
Ohhh and he just spams red and basic at the same time afterwards until ult lights up again
i mean its still good for dd i think
Ok that makes sense
and haemo
I wanna try Vera without DLT to see if double rot still works, it should I think
not really
Cuz if I can greed and go for the 8% atk boost it’s prob higher score
Can't run shakes without it
Which means vera will run it instead
And that means losing out on guin









