📨・meta-help

[zenith thorn]

more viability especially since she's used in 3 team comp

[still gorge]

are you guys considered unpaid labour?

[frail hinge]

Yes

Idk why any of us do this

[zenith thorn]

I'm expensive wdym

[frail hinge]

It's even worse it you're a heloer

Ss a helper you're obligated not to just lie for shts and giggles

[still gorge]

sounds like hard work

[deft apex]

Obligated?

Iunno about that

[frail hinge]

Won't the mods break your kneecaps if you do that as a helper

[frail hinge]

@ mods

[deft apex]

Tbf in not one to purposefuly misinfo anyway

Otherwise i wouldn't even have gotten to be a helper

[frail hinge]

So you're saying I need to actively troll sometimes to ensure I never accidentally become a helper

[deft apex]

Uhhh

That's a good start

[frail hinge]

Speaking of which

[deft apex]

But that might get u muted and or warned

[frail hinge]

I haven't seen Miku in a bit

[frail hinge]

Since when could you be earned for giving brick advice and if so why hasn't lotte been silenced atp

[deft apex]

My goat washed 💔

[deft apex]

Idk who lotte is

But unless he is actively spewing misinfo with the intent to brick people

Then its probably just general help at its core

[frail hinge]

Someone asked if they could use vera X cw X nanami ( presumably due to Cw and vera sharing umbra) and he actively advocated for it

[river nymph]

[wintry parcel]

Does anyone have a proper Glaciation Warzone run with SS0 rank characters?

[cobalt prawn]

I accidentally pulled 240 times and got SSS+ Selena is she good?

[river nymph]

why is dark so painful now

[deft apex]

You're accidentally so real for that

[river nymph]

wow s+ in 240 pulls is insane luck

[frail hinge]

His logic?
"You can do it, stop being a meta slave and looking for the most optimal advice" in response to my 'use a lightning support instead'

[cobalt prawn]

U can tell how poor I am by the fact that idk how many pulls it takes to s+

[frail hinge]

That's gotta be fate zaza

[deft apex]

Maybe it was garnet?

That could make some line of sense

[frail hinge]

No they mentioned geiravor specifically

[river nymph]

600 pulls would be max pity

[frail hinge]

His whole argument ess that we should stop giving any semi optimal advice and let people do whatever they want

[deft apex]

Is he wring though?

[frail hinge]

Sm so that the idea of telling someone to not use the fire support with the lightning units pissed him off

[deft apex]

Idk how general help really works

[shy jackal]

That's deranged

[deft apex]

Just giving suboptimal advice

[frail hinge]

I thought we were still meant to like
Y'know
Help

His advice wasn't suboptimal it was actively detrimental

[deft apex]

Well yea but maybe jt was for fun or something like that

[frail hinge]

But "let people do what they want"

[deft apex]

If the other guy came here instead it would make sense

[frail hinge]

No he's constantly like this unfortunately

[deft apex]

But general help is just... weird

[trail stump]

Who's the next char on voucher shop?

[deft apex]

No one rn

[frail hinge]

This wasn't even general help it was just general

[deft apex]

Yea general has a misinfo problem

Just modmail evidence

And they'll take care

[frail hinge]

What got to me was that I was the one advocating to let people do what they wanted a fee months ago but he makes me look like you guys in comparison

[deft apex]

What do you even mean look like us

[stoic rapids]

everybody ends up like us eventually if they care somewhat about their account lol

general help is an illusion

it's a place for people to entertain their delusions. im just happy we are not banished to a thread anymore

[frail hinge]

#💬・pgr-general message

[stoic rapids]

thats what we said before but here we are

[deft apex]

Fr

[frail hinge]

You can't lie a few months ago y'all were really High on the "play meta or delete your account" zaza

[stoic rapids]

as long as i dont have to pretend that buying sss cw from vouchers is a good idea for a new account im gucci

or something like that

[stoic rapids]

we are still high on that zaza

you just grew accustomed to it

[trail stump]

Does SS3 Wanshi rot same as SS0 variant?

[deft apex]

Dang lotte making a fuss in general huh

[stoic rapids]

whos lotte

wait nvm

[frail hinge]

This one was really good

[frail hinge]

Yep yep

[trail stump]

Lotte wuwa echo

[stoic rapids]

yes. this

[stoic rapids]

let them have it. let them brick.

not our problem

[river nymph]

what is the drama rn

[trail stump]

Cool thanks

[frail hinge]

Hit me with the "you're too meta slave" like wha

[stoic rapids]

you lived long enough to become the villain my friend

[frail hinge]

I mean Fabio brought up hoe you could be warned or muted for actively giving brick advice so that's why I mentioned lotte

[stoic rapids]

welcome to our world

[frail hinge]

NO

NEVERERR

[stoic rapids]

yes. in here. not outside

[frail hinge]

Smh

[stoic rapids]

pgr gen and ghelp is free for all. we are supposed to take care of snowflakes who cant handle how the game works properly

which is fine. im not going in there

whoever wants to be in that space is welcome to

[frail hinge]

There's no middle ground with these people

[stoic rapids]

i think we always give sensible advice here based on account state

but nobody here is gonna say "yes please skip xyz character cause you wanna roll that gacha skin"

[cobalt prawn]

Tbf this is prob the gacha game where meta matters the least

There is 0 progression or rewards or anything locked behind scoring high in WZ/PPC

[frail hinge]

My stance has always been to just let people make informed decisions on their own

[frail hinge]

Wait no ppc gives skulls

[cobalt prawn]

Which is nice. But I’m a competitive mf and I WILL optimize the f outta everything

[cobalt prawn]

I mean like, in terms of ranking

[frail hinge]

Oh yeah? What was your ion score last week

Anything below 5m is casual territory

[cobalt prawn]

(I’m a returning player not in hero yet)

[frail hinge]

Smh my head CASUAL

[final fog]

Damn really?

[cobalt prawn]

Whatever the promotion system is makes no sense I’m top 3 but still won’t promote me??

[carmine mesa]

Even so, a SS 5* account will get enough skulls, if played consistently, but most gacha players are butterflies migrating from title to title.

[frail hinge]

I'm slightly over exaggerating but some people here would def say that

Imagine playing more than one gacha

[cobalt prawn]

Yeah I can only afford 1 at a time

PGR is nice and cheap tho, compared to pretty much any other gacha out there

[frail hinge]

Project sekai doesn't count

That's a real game disguised as gacha

[nova forum]

Are you on hero bracket?

[cobalt prawn]

Nope I’m the one under it

I think I don’t have enough of the merit point thingies or whatever

[frail hinge]

?
Merit doesn't apply below hero

Or did they update that or something

[nova forum]

Send ss of your wz screen

[frail hinge]

Are you sure you didn't get sniped

[deft apex]

Erm

[cobalt prawn]

Idk lemme check in a min

My iPad be updating

[deft apex]

I didnt touch plasma cuz i was in giga whel legend bracket

[frail hinge]

Snipers are dangerous you gotta look out for em

[frail hinge]

Ew whales

[cobalt prawn]

Oh ykw I don’t even have a plasma team

[frail hinge]

Oke I gotta get back to studying smh my head

[cobalt prawn]

I don’t have Pyroath💔 waiting for July 2 to grab her

[frail hinge]

Could Lilith solo ion actually

I meant the scores would be garbage but I could see it feasibly working maybe?

[deft apex]

Hum

[frail hinge]

2 rots(probs need dlt)
One to set up ion bar
The other to. Well deal ion dmg

[deft apex]

How about u use lightning for that

[cobalt prawn]

It’s super cope but prob not

[frail hinge]

Maybe even a third rot as well

[cobalt prawn]

It’s ok, I’ll have her soon

[deft apex]

Like genuinely

If u miss lilith or pyro ur ion is dead in the water

Use lightning if u want a senblance of a score

[cobalt prawn]

Yeah the affix teams are all super specific

I do like difficult/complicated rotations tho ngl it’s kinda fun to figure out

Imagine a team where all 3 are like Pyroath or LD😛

[deft apex]

Ld is super simple though

[mental arrow]

With Selena out should I keep the Solacetune dps build or would it be better to swap it for a tank debuffer with Da Vinci and Catherine?

[shut fulcrum]

what is sss wanshi glaction rot?

[sick flower]

who is ld

[zinc charm]

hey chat

i was wondering for ss0 selena why skip flower ult

is it because it took too much time orrr

[river nymph]

what is the context?

[zinc charm]

phy

warzone

[river nymph]

do you know about her noise debuff?

[zinc charm]

ye

is it the one that disable the ult flower, reduced by swapping her in and ult?

[thorn bramble]

Dps

[river nymph]

ye

[zinc charm]

whats up with it

[mental arrow]

thx

[river nymph]

i guess im still confused about when you are skipping flower ult

[zinc charm]

i mean like not using it at all

sure for glacio context, ss0-ss3 still used it

but for phy is like ult1- HD-HA- 2-3 ping - ult

then 3 ping-ha-3 ping- ult - hd- ult

[river nymph]

tbh i dont know enough about ss0

maybe you dont have enough white orbs to fill her string gauge to flower ult

[zinc charm]

actually i felt like its more of not using blue orb

[river nymph]

oh maybe thats it

[zinc charm]

i noticed the diff in ss3 and ss0 run

[zinc charm]

actually you can flower ult by ult1- HD- 6 melodic ping or whatever that ping name is - HD- flower ult

i tried it just now on glacio and phy ( phy as in clash reflection)

but i do notice it took a bit time, where blue orb is like f a s t

though i heard for ss0 its not worth it to ping blue orb, i forgor why

[still gorge]

whats the process of buying rc? you convert immedietly to bc or you use rc to buy packs?

[thorn bramble]

Rc to Buy packs

[river nymph]

you can do either

but buying packs is more efficient

[zinc charm]

who even directly convert rc to bc, anyone trying that its a psycopath and have a lots of money

[tall gust]

How the hell do I do the glaciation rotation if my team doesn't have their sigs but they're all ss

also I'm holding down selenas ult with glaciation bar full but she doesn't trigger it

I'm losing it

[zinc charm]

you lowkey need selena sig

you get free 3 ping on ult

[tall gust]

I mean tbh I will get it later

[forest knot]

The damage sucks for the amount of time it takes to cast it
3S Selena allows hold basic to consume more orbs to generate music notes and consume more music notes for more hold ba damage, synergizing with her signature that grants her the equivalent damage increase on blue orb

[tall gust]

I just want to know why Selena's Glaciation effect won't trigger

[olive shale]

need 10 glaciation stacks before ulting

[zinc charm]

what about not using flower ult on ss0?

[stoic rapids]

you gotta stack up with wanshi before

[tall gust]

Uhm
what the scallop

[mental arrow]

you need to stack 10 with wanshi

[zinc charm]

all the rotation i see for ss0 doesnt use the ult

[stoic rapids]

flower ult is sss only

[tall gust]

Yeah well rip LOL!

I have no idea how to stack 10 glaciation with wanshi I can't get that high

Does anyone have a video link

[zinc charm]

whar, i though at minimal you want to ss3 to use flower ult

[mental arrow]

you have to enter the shooting mode by holding dodge

[tall gust]

I'm trying to follow a video made today

[zinc charm]

you just hold dodge as you do with hold red

[tall gust]

Ohhhhh

[final spire]

swap in > 3ping > hold dodge > spam 12 red orb> ult > swap out

[tall gust]

That's
Hard to do on mobile wtf

[zinc charm]

whar no

[forest knot]

Flower ult is usually overkill in WZ and causes rotation to take 2s longer, and leaves the entire 2nd rotation out of amp buff, SS0 is just too slow vs SS3+

[tall gust]

Fingers Hurt

[forest knot]

PPC you do go for flower ult as SS0 though for damage

[tall gust]

Ok I'll try again

thank you all PGRers

[zinc charm]

is that done with the double melodic outburst

[forest knot]

Yea

[zinc charm]

i see, i can take it that ss3 offer faster rots to flower ult?

[forest knot]

Yea, if you keep the blue gauge full aka don't use hold dodge, pinging white orbs doubles the points gain to the flower ult gauge

[stoic rapids]

are you asking for glacio or for phys?

for glacio you can do flower

[zinc charm]

phy context

i forgot to spesificy sorry mb

[forest knot]

SS3 Phys will use flower too

[stoic rapids]

it will? oh

i have been lied to

or my brain is mushy

[zinc charm]

who lied to you my glorious changli

[stoic rapids]

my brain most likely

[zinc charm]

daymnn

[stoic rapids]

i think im mixing it up with blue orb

[waxen kindle]

Yo don't blue unless sss I think

[zinc charm]

ohhhhhh

[stoic rapids]

sorry for the misinfo then >..< im barely smart enough for my own invest let alone others

[tall gust]

I'm 100% going back to leader

I miss Plasma wz

I suck at glaciation rotation

[mental arrow]

I have 3 people with 8m+ on mine

[tall gust]

Yeah no the whales Haven't done it yet

[solid kraken]

So, Wanshi just naturally does Glaciation when you use his moveset?
no special rotation?

[stoic rapids]

as long as you start with dodge hold instead of red hold, yes

[tall gust]

U gotta hold down dodge to trigger it

[mental arrow]

It's the same as normal one, you just use dodge instead of hold red, nothing else that needs to be done

[tall gust]

doing the bullet ult trigger glaciation while dodge hold builds up glaciation stacks

[zinc charm]

atleast you tird

[tall gust]

whales everywhere I go

[mental arrow]

glaciation order would be echo, insta swap to wanshi, back to echo who refreshes it and selena or am I tripping?
haven't really used it yet

[thorn bramble]

Bro is cooked

[zinc charm]

thats just what it is for warzone lel

[woven haven]

wanshi -> selena -> echo

[tall gust]

I think I just need guidance on how to do the rotation

[zinc charm]

echo -> wanshi -> selena -> echo

[tall gust]

I think I'm fine for most of it but I struggle with Selena

[solid kraken]

is Selena conductor ult or flower ult better?

[zinc charm]

depend on rank

[mental arrow]

glacio or phys?

[solid kraken]

Also, how do you switch between them?

[solid kraken]

phys

[tall gust]

I just 3 ping > hold ba > ult > hold dodge > ult > switch to echo

[mental arrow]

glacio yes, phys only ss3

for ult flower

[zinc charm]

is that glacio?

[tall gust]

Yeah that's what I'm currently doing with selena

[zinc charm]

for glacio you transition your rots depend if you have noise debuff

[tall gust]

erm

No idea whatchu mean but I'll keep trying I know I can do better

maybe my problem is that I have no sigs on my characters lol

[final spire]

bro needs the noise cancellation airpods and see how

[zinc charm]

if you dont have it its 3 ping -> ha -> 3 ping -> ult -> hold doge -> 6 ping -> hd -> flower ult

[solid kraken]

?

[zinc charm]

actually no thats like the whole rots, since you only do 1 ult per rots so it doesnt matter if you have the debuff or not, the rots stays same

[tall gust]

Wait

I'm actually stupid

I'm doing glaciation without glaciation memory

brb LOL

[zinc charm]

you just need 2 piece klenova

[vale raft]

Selena: Pianissimo <:s_rank:1287636749052412026><:attacker:1285839106240417803><:physical_element:1290613978057146379><:glaciation:1288090076001210398>

Glaciation Affix Set

Usage

Glaciation Affix Content

Game Modes

High Difficulty, Pain Cage, Warzone, Clash Reflection, Norman

Description

Recommended for all ranks
Glaciation Affix Set

Memories

4x Burana
2x Klenova

Memory Resonances

Top Slot : 6x Any ATK+15 Variant
Bottom Slot: 6x Core Passive

Harmony Recommendation

Klenova

[zinc charm]

keep the 2 piece cottie on selena

[mental arrow]

don't use blue orb, those points will instead go towards changing flower ult, I think
@zinc charm this how it works?

[stoic rapids]

what invest is that. only sss keeps the cottie. below that you go 4klen

[tall gust]

run harmony cottie and 2 klenova?

Or 4 Burana 4 Klenova

[zinc charm]

but not having cottie will not be able to ult with usual rots no?

[stoic rapids]

what rank is your piano?

[tall gust]

SS

[stoic rapids]

4bur4klen

[tall gust]

No sig tho

[zinc charm]

haiya

[tall gust]

[stoic rapids]

i dont know about that, thats below my paygrade

no sig means no harmo so no 2klen it is

[zinc charm]

i am sure its 4 sig 2 cottie 2 klenova

[tall gust]

fair enough

I'm spending money next week

[zinc charm]

even this one said for all ranks

[tall gust]

Okay

[stoic rapids]

yeah. that says what im saying boo. 4bur4klen

wheres the cottie there?

[lusty minnow]

[tall gust]

Guess I'm going poor again

[zinc charm]

shes asking how to switch, but thats not the right question, you dont really change ult, the only way to flower ult is to let the white little bar (idk the name) go maximum

[tall gust]

gotta change my echo wanshi and Selena with their respective glaciation memories

[forest knot]

Glacio doesn't really need Cottie energy, but Cottie does save orbs so I'm not sure actually for no sig

[zinc charm]

wait

[stoic rapids]

variation points is what that string bar is called

[zinc charm]

i just realized theres no cottie in there wth

i miss read all this time 😠

[stoic rapids]

smh

[zinc charm]

smh indeed

[tall gust]

So like even with no Sig I run 2x Klenova?

[stoic rapids]

sigless tho thats a good question. i have no idea what sigless selena runs

[zinc charm]

s otrue

[stoic rapids]

how out of reach is sig for you?

[tall gust]

Hmmm Guess I'll try

[final spire]

i run cottie on my selena 🤔

[zinc charm]

i dont play sigless unit

[forest knot]

You might just need Cottie either way to reduce orb consumption

Cuz you don't get orb sustain from sig

[tall gust]

I can definitely get the sig But I'm saving for the brothers

[forest knot]

I can check later

[lusty minnow]

brick

[zinc charm]

i am gonna change the memory, its not like its hurting my resource to invest 2 more memory

[tall gust]

So I'm just shooting random 1 pulls from the version event rewards

[zinc charm]

time to redo the wz stage

[stoic rapids]

making a cottie is not a waste anyway cause it is used in phys even on ss so just make a cottie and try that

[tall gust]

alright

[stoic rapids]

and when u get a sig u can make a 4klen instad

[zinc charm]

ngl glaciation is the least input intesive

like its so casual input wth

[tall gust]

So far I won 6 weapon 80/20s on low pity but I think this is the first time that I'm not getting it on low pity

[tall gust]

Nah that's Plasma

[mental arrow]

True slash is also super simple tho

[zinc charm]

i rather do basic plasma sooo

[tall gust]

I had a better score with Plasma

[zinc charm]

theres advanced plasma

[tall gust]

Because it's super easy lol

[zinc charm]

but nah i am not built for that

[stoic rapids]

glacio has other funny quirks. like missing targets. both wanshi and selena love to not hit stuff

[zinc charm]

ermm

for me its only hanying

[stoic rapids]

wanshi tripping on ammo is also a very funny quirk

[zinc charm]

actually sometime wanshi only hit 1 target on mob-wz

kinda tripped me but its not as bad feeling with hanying missing a whole as ult

[final spire]

once u get used to it its easier

[mental arrow]

haven't had that issue with hanying, weird stuff

[tall gust]

wait Wanshi doesn't have a glaciation memory

[zinc charm]

ngl its diff per rots so i am kinda tripping when i see the guide

[zinc charm]

keep whatever memory you have

[tall gust]

the main tank dps one

[zinc charm]

my second acc still suffer sigless wanshi

i want my 4 piece cheng 😭

[final spire]

spend all that energy on sim

[forest knot]

I think sigless just ends up doing
3p -> hold ba -> ult 1 -> hold dodge -> hold ba -> white orbs -> blue orb -> flower ult

[mental arrow]

using 4bura4klen instead of 4bura2cott2klen wouldn't hurt the phys rotation making you unable to ult twice?

[zinc charm]

yes but you dont benefit the klenova effect on phy

atleast thats my opinion

[waxen kindle]

Why are u using klen in phys bruh

[zinc charm]

my question too

[mental arrow]

I'm broke rn

[solid kraken]

How do I make Selena's concert stay onfield after I switch characters?

[final spire]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=guCcH75EsxI

[zinc charm]

firefly the goat

[final spire]

not sure if this is what u looking for

[waxen kindle]

2 mems is like 1k simu coins

[final spire]

5 runs

[weary kestrel]

Do I ask for which char I should use my thunderbolt selector on here? I have S pyroath, don't have starrail. Do I use it to get a copy of Pyroath so I can ss3 since I heard that's the best ss3 prio when I have enough ppc or get starrail

[forest knot]

That's solo but yea either way 1 flower ult rotate no sig should be similar to that

[zinc charm]

guys which one worth to R2
luna,pyroath,ishmael,alisa is R2 already

[mental arrow]

was more of a question of, if I want 4klen for glacio i'd need to harmonize it, making that harmo useless for physical

[zinc charm]

? you can change harmo

[mental arrow]

true, i'm braindead, it's been ages since I last changed a harmo

[zinc charm]

lel

its like unlocking

so you need to pay 1200 something to unlock memory

not harmony, thats diff material

[waxen kindle]

1.2k spinning tops

[zinc charm]

i call those fidget

[upper steppe]

Can someone help me understand how to activate glaciation with Selena? I thought it was just accumulate with basic attack and hold the signature button, but that's not activating it for me.

[zinc charm]

i mean yeah it stack but not that fast

[mental arrow]

you need 10 charges from wanshi

[zinc charm]

selena is not an enabler for glacio

[stoic rapids]

you activate with wanshi, not selena. wanshi stacks it up then activates with bullet ult

[mental arrow]

because selena charges too slow

[upper steppe]

Oh ok

[mental arrow]

I thought either ult did?

[zinc charm]

you dont ult drone on glacio

[upper steppe]

I still thought holding ult with Selena was supposed to activate it

[zinc charm]

you only want wanshi as enabler, so just 12 red orb and ult 1 is enough

[stoic rapids]

you do ult drone on glacio but probably not on lower invest

[zinc charm]

whar

[stoic rapids]

18-30 is perfectly fine to do on wanshi

[zinc charm]

i only do the ult 1 and swap out

[stoic rapids]

thats fine if ur in lower ranks and the waves are more paper

[zinc charm]

but what about sss?

[stoic rapids]

it's about wz rank

[zinc charm]

ohhh

[stoic rapids]

wz waves are weaker on lower ranks

[zinc charm]

i mean yeah i am on hero wz so

[stoic rapids]

rn im back in hero and it's completely throwing me off

cause im used to legend waves

[stoic rapids]

just do bullet

[zinc charm]

haiya why you fell off dalao

[stoic rapids]

somebody sniped me off sunday late night when i wasnt looking smh. also im no dalao sheesh

[zinc charm]

lie youre a dalao

[forest knot]

18-30 is fine on 333 too

[stoic rapids]

im a disgrace of a whale

i have MAJOR skill issue

[final spire]

nah the snipers are crazy

[zinc charm]

is it bit overkill to ult drone on 3s wanshi on hero wz

[stoic rapids]

still cant do 5slash pyro reliably

[final spire]

i got sniped off promotion to legends this week

[zinc charm]

or should i do it usually the cowboy ult

[stoic rapids]

in hero? ehhh

[forest knot]

It's just condensing 2 ults in 1 rot instead of just spinning like Magmadude's run

To compensate for slightly more time spent, you desync Alisa Ults

[upper steppe]

So the glaciation rotation is 12 red orbs + ult for wanshi then swap to Selena and do her rotation?

[alpine moss]

you're still good, i cant even do 5slash in the first place

old man hands

[ebon adder]

between pulling a copy of vera or pulling ss3 selena what should i prio

[zinc charm]

i am gonna experiment with both rots for wanshi glacio

[brave quail]

I need a guide for hanying rotation at SS0 and 5* weapon

[stoic rapids]

a "copy" of vera? if you mean skipping vera, don't. pull vera but ss is enough and you can just skull her to ss so no need for further copies. selena ss3 is major, if you can get that without giving up obtaining vera, do it

[ebon adder]

okayy sorry, for clarification it was either skipping vera or not

[stoic rapids]

do not skip vera

[forest knot]

Vera is a substantial improvement for low invest Fire, don't skip

[alpine moss]

rule 1 of pgr: no newly released unit is skippable

[forest knot]

Unless you have 333 Ishmael Fire or something then it's more arguable

[ebon adder]

even if i dont have her weapon so no harmo or weapon res?

[worthy skiff]

whats lilith dark team rotation at sss with 3 wep resos

[zinc charm]

hmm

using 4 klenova used more ping to activate ult 1

or do i miss something on the rots

[forest knot]

Yea 1 more 3p, doesn't matter tho

[zinc charm]

then its like

3 ping - ha - 3 ping - ha- 3 ping ?

[stoic rapids]

i JUST love when selena spin misses the enemy. i LOVE IT SO MUCH AAAA

[waxen kindle]

Except for a ranks

And maybe dmc

[final spire]

yeah, cottie makes it easier to get the ult

yeah in the end it doesnt matter, pretty sure youre doing glacio selena

[alpine moss]

dmc skip hell yeah

[zinc charm]

ye

[final spire]

i use cottie becuz sss selena

blue orb after ult

[stoic rapids]

@zinc charm doing bullet wanshi only improved my score over doing mixed or drone hmm. i still miss a lot cause i mess up qte timings i think

[zinc charm]

i c

[stoic rapids]

firefly sss wz vid is actually in hero so thats a good reference point

[final spire]

firefly my wife and goat

[noble zinc]

no

you consume that musical stack by keep holding basic attack

don't have to do another 3p then

That's the way we should do

[zinc charm]

speaking of

[noble zinc]

What I noticed

[zinc charm]

whats the musical note do

[mental arrow]

what's the build for glaciation wanshi anyways?

[noble zinc]

idk much still that gives core stack from SS3

[final spire]

stacks the gauge for hold dodge atk

i think

[stoic rapids]

buffs dmg of ult or the hold dodge atk. also gives variation stacks for flower ult

[zinc charm]

i see

[stoic rapids]

4cjy4liston atk class

[zinc charm]

so i just do 3 ping - ha - 3 ping?

[noble zinc]

Keep holding BA then do another 3p

4kle

[zinc charm]

wait i dont understand

[noble zinc]

Leeme find recording

[stoic rapids]

are you sss? i forgot alrdy

[zinc charm]

no my selena is ss

my wanshi is the sss

[stoic rapids]

ah then i dont know. i have no idea how ss selena plays im sorry

[waxen kindle]

No he's de capo

Smhmyhead

[zinc charm]

thanks dad

[noble zinc]

@zinc charm

[mental arrow]

i'm mint then

[stoic rapids]

i will need to recruit a dalao so i can stream my wz for a bit so they can point out wtf am i doing wrong cause this score is NOT okay

[zinc charm]

thats way too fast

is that a 3 ping - ha i see

[noble zinc]

3p-HoldBA(keep holding)- then do matrix ping

[zinc charm]

alr

ngl doing 4 klenova and do the 3p-HoldBA(keep holding)- then do matrix ping doesnt give me enough energy

am i missing something 😦

[noble zinc]

Give recording

[shut fulcrum]

how can u tell whether to extend selena rotation or do a short rotation for glacio?

[zinc charm]

i either have to another 3 ping or another ha to get energy

[noble zinc]

Probly cuz I never faced energy issues

[zinc charm]

[noble zinc]

Unless I go delulu nd start with 2p

[final spire]

pretty sure you only got time for 1 rotation

[zenith thorn]

instict duh

look at the mob bp and do you think you should extend or nah

itss mostly intuintive for a while

[forest knot]

Can you record the run or do you have to stream

[stoic rapids]

i have to stream cause the run is a bit inconsistent so if i record my next run might not look like that. it's a lot of resets when selena misses the spin pre-ult or i trip with wanshi or i dont do alisa fast enough etc. but im off to sleep now anyway. i'll practice more tomorrow

[sturdy nimbus]

General Selena needs 4sig+4 cottie at ss, if Glacio then 4 klenova instead of cottie, at sss you can run 2cottie 2 klenova. Not sure of the ss rot, but without cottie she would surely lack energy on the quicker rots, you need Glacio or phys?

[zinc charm]

glacio

i am fine on phy, since the bot reccomend 4 klenova so i tried to do it, but it doesnt give me enough energy

i had to fill in another ha/3 ping to get enough energy

[forest knot]

3p ha 3p ha is fine

[zenith thorn]

ha ha

[sturdy nimbus]

https://youtu.be/D_Cgpc7dbjs?si=DJJt4u6MPBk_1mRt see from 1:49

[noble zinc]

hehe

[zenith thorn]

i can hear mj hehe idk why

[zinc charm]

empress my goat

oh wrong reply

i am soo skill issuing rn wth

[noble zinc]

Sighg.

Told you just consume that music stack

Didn't even read ts ktsk

[zinc charm]

so its 3 ping - ha - 3 ping -ha?

[zenith thorn]

yes

[zinc charm]

ahhh

[zenith thorn]

also regarding your wanshi

just spam red
no need to pause inbetween wave

the dmg is carried over the next wave anyway

[zinc charm]

i c

[shut fulcrum]

fair enough

[shut fulcrum]

yeah it's one rot but it varies in time since u can do different things

[zenith thorn]

im not gonna lie,i havent learnt her variant yet

but every sinlge rot variant is just

it depends

[shut fulcrum]

tbh there isn't much else she does, the open into the first ult is always the same irrc, and then after that you either hold basic or you spam white orbs

I mean I did see some saying do hold basic 3 white orbs with a pause, 3 white orbs again and then hold basic

[shut fulcrum]

then some where it's like 6 white orbs then hold basic

idk, but either way I do like glacation alot more then plasma

[zinc charm]

now why cant i hold ba after ult 1

[shut fulcrum]

oops maybe I meant hold dodge

to do the flying air thing

[final spire]

don't you have to ping orbs before ha

[zenith thorn]

because u already used the hold ba before ult 1

[white oriole]

Ping another 3p after 2 Hold BA

[zenith thorn]

u either go 1 more 3p or just straight to white orbs

[zinc charm]

which one is better or is it the same?

[white oriole]

I like doing 2 Hold Dodge

[zinc charm]

that is true

[white oriole]

Each Hold Dodge = 1 wave

[zinc charm]

i like doing it too

[zenith thorn]

cant tell i havent experiment it yet

[zinc charm]

so i guess thats another 3 ping

[final spire]

wait but why hold basic after ult 1 though?

[zenith thorn]

4kle

oh

[zinc charm]

animation lock

[white oriole]

To get down faster

[zenith thorn]

to save time

[zinc charm]

hold ba make you able cast white ping faster

[zenith thorn]

since hold dodge force animation after ending

[white oriole]

I think you should do Hold Dodge > Hold BA > 6p > Hold Dodge

[zinc charm]

thats what i usually do

[white oriole]

Hold Dodge can be buffered in Ult1

[zinc charm]

@zenith thorn should i ult drone in wanshi glacio?

[zenith thorn]

yeah

it also depends

but u can alternate

[zinc charm]

after that drone do i swap off immediately or go 12 bullet first?

[zenith thorn]

swap off

[zinc charm]

aightt

lemme try this now

[dull moon]

i got 6 mil on glaciation hero, sss selena, sss echo and sss wanshi. can someone spare some hypertune materials

[white oriole]

I need my SSS Wanshi

[zenith thorn]

uh oh

ht poverty

[dull moon]

and im going to be going for sss vera, and she will eat up everything im earning now

[river nymph]

[heavy marlin]

How to solo in siege using a bridget is there a trick?

[white oriole]

https://youtu.be/8x0c82IxZis

[waxen kindle]

Wtf

That's crazy

[white oriole]

That’s crazy indeed

[river nymph]

who is hyped for vera

[zinc charm]

me

anyways thanks for all the dalaos that help me with my skill issue on glacio

it improved my wz score compared to 2 cottie 2 klenova selena

[river nymph]

did you use 4 klenova?

[zinc charm]

yes for glacio

[zenith thorn]

xeno u use 4kle or 2cot

[river nymph]

2 2

but i have sss

[dull moon]

im using 4 burana 2 cottie 2 klenova

also sss

if i had hypertune id swap

[zenith thorn]

NanaThink2

[river nymph]

is 4 keknova the play?

[zenith thorn]

i beleive setsu said sss0 use cot?

u can try use 4kle tho and test

[river nymph]

kuriko

[zenith thorn]

adolphe

[odd roost]

What's the rotation for Pyroath solo WZ?

SS+6* DLT

[noble zinc]

Solo?

[forest knot]

3S needs Cottie to not waste matrix to blue orb after ult1

[zenith thorn]

ah that make sense

[river nymph]

[white oriole]

Cottie vs Klenova for me

[zinc charm]

Peak

[peak halo]

Its glacio

[zenith thorn]

4kle only improve 300k deadge
granted i did fcked up

[noble zinc]

[zenith thorn]

maybe i should actually build a glacio set for wanshu LMFAO

[rustic belfry]

so

[peak halo]

I did skill issue phys run and got also 4m

[rustic belfry]

geiravor with 5* weap viable?

[zenith thorn]

viable to play yes

[peak halo]

So this week wz mald not over yet to me

[zenith thorn]

wtf i only spent like 10k for 6class???

2 class in a row too

starege

[white oriole]

Be careful outside

[swift socket]

another S rank selector at bianca patch or no?

[river nymph]

yes up to qu

[sturdy nimbus]

How long can I delay using this patch's selector? Or no timer on it

[alpine moss]

Whel luck confirmed

[white oriole]

Qu Selector? Should be no timer

[forest knot]

It's mid September

[white oriole]

So expire after DMC?

@sturdy nimbus Sorry

[sturdy nimbus]

Ohh, kk, thanks :p

[swift socket]

Does Echo still worth to invest now? I want her SSS so bad 😓

[white oriole]

Not a bad investment after SSS Wanshi and Lilith

[sturdy nimbus]

Wanshi and lilith higher priority but yes

[swift socket]

I will screw if new Liv take her place in glaciation

I have both SSS wanshi and lilith xD

[sturdy nimbus]

Nah she just got a leap so surely not

[white oriole]

I'm fine with my SS Echo then

[sturdy nimbus]

If you buy BP it's almost free

[sly geyser]

only whels in here

[shy jackal]

Well there's also phys and ts if that's any consolation

[stark tundra]

Is cw kind of bad now? I'm just noticing that nanami does way more than cw 💔

[mighty tusk]

Yes lmao

Still meta, but sss is recommended for her

[heavy marlin]

In norman is there like a specific buff for each element? I think I've seen it but did it disappear?

[white oriole]

Yes it’s still there

[heavy marlin]

In pins?

[white oriole]

You mean how to choose each buff?

[heavy marlin]

Yeah

[white oriole]

The buff in Norman rotates so

Can you show

[heavy marlin]

Is it buff? The diversion, inversion, etc.

[white oriole]

It is

You can read them

[long copper]

For qte bots, so you bot res their actual skills, or QTE?

[faint monolith]

Am I missing something with Selena? Is she doing flower ult only once per 2 swaps?

[warped axle]

liv is prolly light + ice

no way they replacing my goat that quickly

[long copper]

[white oriole]

Usually Class or no reso

[long copper]

Fair. Thanks

[white oriole]

You're doing Glacio right? Flower Ult gives 2 stacks of Debuff. With Debuff you can't Flower Ult

[faint monolith]

Oh shi

Then what do y'all do in that case? Hold dodge then insta swap to Alisa?

[true pivot]

god i hate glacio

[white oriole]

Glacio Selena only do 1 rot no?

[faint monolith]

Ye

[white oriole]

I just do the 2 Hold Dodge

[kindred bobcat]

Anyone have 22.33 123 dark rotation

For wz

[winter wind]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=x6pRy3F4fRI
So in this video, first half of alisa's rotation at the beginning looks like
Swap - Hold dodge - 3p - dodge - ping (jump up costrike attack with arrow) - ult, but when I'm copying this my alisa is doing the grounded costrike attack with the chains

I couldn't figure out what was the difference, I'm sure I'm missing something

[stark tundra]

I do have sss for her but I'm lowkey using her as sub dps for nanami lmao

[white oriole]

Is your Alisa SSS?

[winter wind]

yes

oh I figured it out, alisa's leap if you hold basic, it lets you do the jumping costrike

[stark tundra]

Is wanshi good?

[white oriole]

Oh yeah I didn't see that

[white oriole]

Yes very

[winter wind]

yeah I was just in training mode trying to figure out the basics of this rot, and I was not about to go read alisa leap essay

[brave sigil]

whats the harmonized memory in this build?

[stark tundra]

I'm close to getting him from shards lmao

The echo girl too

[white oriole]

4 Burana 4 Cottie/Klenova for Phys/Glacio

[brave sigil]

ah thanks

[rugged inlet]

thats what she is, Nanami does more damage than Crimson Weave

[stark tundra]

Okie

[raw swift]

Aw man

[sturdy nimbus]

Alisa rot is hold dodge, tap dodge x3(x2 if sss) , hold ba, ult

[frozen creek]

Did they roll it back

[winter wind]

I was following what the rot was in the video cause it had good results

[frozen creek]

[zenith thorn]

wtf where is my 3k event

[frozen creek]

You whel u buy it

F2P like me need it

[zenith thorn]

send video of your rotation

[winter wind]

2 does hold dodge 3p dodge hold ba ult, then dodge x3 hold ba ult in the video

[winter wind]

I figured out what I was doing wrong, I wasn't holding BA to do jumping costrike on echo

I didn't bother reading alisa leap logs so I was just figuring it out playing her

[zenith thorn]

lmfao

[true pivot]

cryolao

teach me glaco

[limber crest]

when vera

[true pivot]

tmr

[winter wind]

This is what my rot looks like following video, I haven't made notes on the optimized rot per waves

[true pivot]

or just read pins

[zenith thorn]

clean
really fast rots thete

[teal robin]

4pc klenova better than 2pc cott and 2 pc kleno ss sele

[zenith thorn]

alisa rots looks about right

[teal robin]

?

[steady otter]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/emojis/1017938018235060344.gif

[teal robin]

Help

[zenith thorn]

need dlt
ye

[winter wind]

okay cool ty

[zenith thorn]

spam fasterer

[teal robin]

Energy issue

[zenith thorn]

i still haven't optimised my glacio bro

[true pivot]

gimmie tips
https://youtu.be/QFGallE5LS8

[zenith thorn]

bro my glacio with 2.333 is 760w
u give me tips

[true pivot]

[zenith thorn]

my invest is higher than u

[true pivot]

why dmg so mid

[zenith thorn]

yey my score is lower :wtfshit:

[sick flower]

how many hours left for vera

[zenith thorn]

dunno still figuring out

[teal robin]

My damage is so low in glaciation

[zenith thorn]

im washed af

[teal robin]

Any help to play correctly

[true pivot]

you could try the rot im doing, i got 8.8m even without the flower end ult

ss3 seems to only have more damage?

[teal robin]

I am in hero

[zenith thorn]

@teal robin watch this vid

[teal robin]

Ok

[true pivot]

no wtf dont

[zenith thorn]

free ad

[true pivot]

cryo u btch

[zenith thorn]

js say u love me 💔🥀

[true pivot]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/emojis/1358099919684243486.gif?size=48&animated=true&name=worry_tased

[noble zinc]

[teal robin]

So when hold dodge in wanshi . He does glaciation damage not ice right

[winter wind]

yeah, also idk if anyone else experiencing it but it feels like you have to hold dodge for unreasonably longer on wanshi

[calm panther]

Does anyone have any video of selena ss0 phys wz?

I keep seeing rot this rot that but no actual gameplay

[teal robin]

Selena so lagyy

[winter wind]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iHoV9lkFbkE

[calm panther]

thanks!

[zenith thorn]

rydlelao so op

I'm still baffled at how insanely fast rydle is

[winter wind]

I was referring to wanshi's hold dodge

It feels like you have to hold it longer than hold red in ice team

I keep messing up rotations from not holding it long enough

[zenith thorn]

i don't think he was talking about you

[winter wind]

oh 💀
mb

[heavy marlin]

Why am i seeing basic atk reso for pyroath is it good?

[zenith thorn]

it depends
a tldr would just be
it's equal to just +15 atk

[true pivot]

cryo that ending on phy isnt that hard to get

[heavy marlin]

Tldr?

[raw swift]

It evens out to be equal value

I think

Idk I put atk on pyroath

[true pivot]

basic is situational

happens rarely but when it works its massive

[zenith thorn]

nuuh

[wary thicket]

@winter wind is rydel not doing hold basic after hold dodge

[teal robin]

I don't have sss alisa what rotation do i do

[river ridge]

Spider 2B reliable?

[winter wind]

I already figured it out from trial and error, I just didn't want to read alisa leap essay

[teal robin]

Her ult doesn't charge fast

[brave sigil]

how do u get orange crit?

[wary thicket]

@winter wind I meant on selena
First ult

[heavy marlin]

Like in his eclipse hold BA mode

[zenith thorn]

post lucia pyro yeah
his luna -hanying guides had big misinfos,but it should be addressed in the pins

[winter wind]

No he does swap 3p - hold ba - ult - blue - hold dodge - white orbs - ult

[true pivot]

i manage to do it as well, so you can too

[zenith thorn]

im slacking til s30

[true pivot]

pakin phat phel

[zenith thorn]

f2p

[true pivot]

ur obesity knows no bounds

[zenith thorn]

im average weight

[true pivot]

ok whel

[zenith thorn]

my bmi is perfectly normal

ur just projecting

[true pivot]

ur 2.3

[zenith thorn]

~~2.6 actually ~~

[true pivot]

HOLY WHALE

[wary thicket]

@winter wind can I have a written down version of his rotation
I see he is doing some different stuff
I wanna try out the variations

[zenith thorn]

rydle's?

[winter wind]

I have yet to make notes on his entire glaciation run only first few rots because I'm busy atm but the first few rots seem to be this

[zenith thorn]

just copy him

wrote down the note yourself

[winter wind]

Start alisa
Swap wanshi

3p hold dodge 12 ult

Swap selena
3p - hold ba - ult - blue - hold dodge - white orbs - ult

swap alisa
I already typed out rydle's alisa rot earlier

but just watch his video in .25x that's what I do when I'm studying warzone runs

[wary thicket]

The thing is why I asked becuz I dont see him doing the blue orb at the start while you said it in your writing

[winter wind]

they play controller I think

or they use the keybinds to ping

you can tell he does the blue on selena because she does her phantom slashes animation

[wary thicket]

No I mean pinging blue should do the flying frick animation no

She didn't do tht

No she doesn't do tht at the first entrance

[winter wind]

This is link to my rot ^
sorry man idk what's the issue either, follow my video, it's just a copy of rydle's rot but with cursor hovering over what I'm pinging

[hushed fractal]

im missing qu and lamia in my roster, i have lamias sig already from losing weapon pity. should i grab lamia or qu?

[zenith thorn]

forgetr about lamia she already dead in 2 patch

just grab shukra
use lamia sig as a reso fodder

[hushed fractal]

that's a little depressing

its gonna hurt my soul to use sigs as fodder

but oh well

[zenith thorn]

better than scrapping them

[wary thicket]

Indeed

[mental shoal]

Vera comes wednesday right

[swift socket]

tomorrow i think no?

[mental shoal]

Are you na?

[swift socket]

Asia

[mental shoal]

Might be tmr for you then

idk if its it comes at the same time for everyone

[wary thicket]

It's Wednesday sea

[pine slate]

Phys?

[swift socket]

you can check pin and there will post about time set up for all our timezone

[mental shoal]

ai

[pine slate]

Idk about glaciation Alisa

Phys is just hold ba > press all orbs > 3x3p > ult

I think

[mental shoal]

Yeah wednesday

[pine slate]

O wait u do a ping after 3x3p too

[wary thicket]

Tht is an additional ping after the ult to release costrike

[pine slate]

That too but idk if it's necessary

[wary thicket]

Better do than not do

[pine slate]

I never do that on sss

[wary thicket]

I mean if you have others out of cd then sure can ignore I guess

[pine slate]

And especially with Selena and hanying taking up much more field time idek if we do Alisa phys full rot

[wary thicket]

I don't know myself whts the effects on tht strike

@pine slate it's pretty quick in tht team tbh

[white oriole]

I will be doing Alisa Glacio rot in Phys cba to do anything with her SS sigless

[true pivot]

@ripe stag ma dud why is your selena eating into amp timer
https://youtu.be/ZnDTGUaWuKQ?feature=shared

[ripe stag]

Physical rot right ?

[true pivot]

yea

[ripe stag]

Yea the first rot was bricked cuz I did it slow

[true pivot]

i checked the 2nd

[upbeat orchid]

The visual novel is so annoying to read since it keeps sending me to the main menu and there's no saving, that I started just viewing it on YouTube, there's a channel that uploads a let's play of the story chapters but for some reason it's only in 480p so I kinda have to focus too much with my eyes to actually see the text

Is there any channel that uploads lets plays of the main and side story chapters?

[true pivot]

why are you asking it here

#📨・general-help

[white oriole]

#🎲・glb-lore actually

[ripe stag]

Yea #🎲・glb-lore

[true pivot]

glblore

[spiral merlin]

lol

[ripe stag]

22s?

[ripe stag]

Shred?

[spiral merlin]

spider2b back at it again with slight misinfos

[ripe stag]

Hold basic ?

[wary thicket]

How much should I expect to be doing with ss selena sigfull
S alisa sigless
Ss wanshi sigless

[spiral merlin]

this is about vera

[ripe stag]

Dude made Vera tank

[wary thicket]

[white oriole]

3S?

[ripe stag]

Yes

3s Lilith

But that's it

[white oriole]

What content

[ripe stag]

Daren is s3

[wary thicket]

Glacio wz

[wary thicket]

[spiral merlin]

[ripe stag]

Isn't dlt like needed for 2nd rot after a while

[white oriole]

3m+

[ripe stag]

[spiral merlin]

idk tbh, need to test myself

[ripe stag]

GLACIO IS BRICKING MY PHONE

[kindred bobcat]

Try 2 3stacks

[ripe stag]

AGAIN

[spiral merlin]

in reality its only extra 3p usage

[ripe stag]

Didn't even go close to kill

[kindred bobcat]

3/3/2?

[odd roost]

I'm resonating CW's weapon she's literally never in use

[wary thicket]

Man the frame drops on selena ult makes forces me to play on low graphs

@odd roost fair

[white oriole]

Darkflow content will be locked to CW for another year

[wary thicket]

I fed tht too

[odd roost]

CN still no darkflow

[wary thicket]

Since I ain't gonna evolve her idc about her weap

[ripe stag]

What's that

[odd roost]

Question is who to resonate

[swift socket]

can we feed weapon which already reso ?

[wary thicket]

You wanna try ?

[odd roost]

Yes

[ripe stag]

Who you aren't gonna evolve ?

[wary thicket]

Cw

[odd roost]

CW

[ripe stag]

Ah

You have to someday

But yea

[kindred bobcat]

Stacks of ult

[wary thicket]

Nah shes outdated and if her only use is in darkflow then not really much of. A problem

[odd roost]

I SS'd to complete cursed wave

[swift socket]

want to feed stigmata weapon to vera 😂

[wary thicket]

She's useless in lightning below sss

Who tf is gonna take her tht high from base s lol

[odd roost]

Since my nanami does 2.2mil as SS+5* how much will getting 6* wep increase her score?

[pine slate]

17s if r2 Daren

[odd roost]

Is the 6* weapon dmg increase that high?

[pine slate]

If no r2 Daren then idk

Prolly can get lower than 17s

[kindred bobcat]

Extended dark shred?

[pine slate]

Idk, I didn't mald

[waxen kindle]

Light? I got almost 3m while half asleep

[wary thicket]

Idk I get like 4m + with ss and sig while using ss ish as amp and luna ss

[pine slate]

Extended tank class

[odd roost]

Yeah since she's gona be the solo carry for lighning content for a long ass time I'd rather just fully invest in her and play her for the next 6-8 momths

[wary thicket]

And I never have to swap off

[odd roost]

We probably won't even get a new lighting dps even in like 8 months

[waxen kindle]

Ss0 sig is fine but get ss3 if u want more dmg ig

[pine slate]

4m+ maybe

If u know what ur doing

[ripe stag]

3/4 - 19s

[odd roost]

Isn't that for SS3

[wary thicket]

I get tht so accurate @pine slate

[pine slate]

Which I assume most ppl do, solo nanami doesn't need a brain to play except for qte timings

[ripe stag]

What does R2 daren has to do with it

[pine slate]

No?

[pine slate]

Resonant echo

[wary thicket]

I dotn even do much about timings tbh and get tht

[ripe stag]

AH

[wary thicket]

As I said I'm at ss and I get 4m + so yea

[zenith thorn]

oh it's supposed to be buff isnt it

[spiral merlin]

ye

[pine slate]

4m+ with ss0 nanami is pretty standard

[zenith thorn]

lmfao are you 2b help server

[odd roost]

Ah but I don't have luna so....

[zenith thorn]

can u ping him

[wary thicket]

She doesn't do much just bot

[spiral merlin]

nope

[zenith thorn]

ah guess i'll ping him

[spiral merlin]

[kindred bobcat]

Thats vera no

[swift socket]

he making Vera Tank

[waxen kindle]

Ish + any qte bot with light ele is fine

[wary thicket]

It's a zaza team
You can use cw there

[odd roost]

Will lux and feral do?

[wary thicket]

Not feral if using ish

[waxen kindle]

No ish?

[wary thicket]

Lux is wht healer ? Then no

Any healer or amp will break ish

[odd roost]

Ish in S

[waxen kindle]

Feral ss?

[odd roost]

Nah

[wary thicket]

If feral ss use her

[odd roost]

Lux is SSS lol

[waxen kindle]

Then why feral

[wary thicket]

Otherwise ish
Especially if her sig

[odd roost]

Nah S+5* ish

[waxen kindle]

Does feral have sig

[wary thicket]

Then not much difference if both feral and ish at same investment

[odd roost]

Nope

[wary thicket]

Since she copies feral

[odd roost]

Should I just use Lilith then she has 1 reso

[waxen kindle]

No

[wary thicket]

She buffs lightning so you can technically use her
No loss just try both see wht performs better yknow

[odd roost]

I used lux and feral to get 2.2 mil

SS+5*

[waxen kindle]

Yeah keep using that for now

Until u can ss0 ish

[wary thicket]

Ish wouldn't make a difference so try one with Lilith while you're at it I guess see how it does

Altho without luna I don't have much hope for tht

[odd roost]

Oof she's gona be S till DMC patch. I have epitaph and vera to SS with skulls

[waxen kindle]

I'd put ish on the top of ss0 priority list if I were u

[wary thicket]

Since she is basically usable everywhere

[waxen kindle]

Yeah

[wary thicket]

Can replace any tank or amp below ss

[waxen kindle]

She can be in epi place too

Goated unit fr

[odd roost]

I mean I have all the amp and tanks so she really sees no use out side of nihil warzone

[wary thicket]

Thts the kindof unit we love not like 1 trick pony

[waxen kindle]

If she's ss0
She's better than s0 epi

[wary thicket]

You get better scores across all content by upgrading 1 unit

[waxen kindle]

If she's ss0
She's better than s0 vera

[odd roost]

X

[swift socket]

what about selector, you already planning to pick someone else?

[odd roost]

That's epitaph