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i love vergil but seeing those posts make me angry
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if SS0 Selena
like imagine a character that literally survived through the world of demons as a kid all by himself
Aight thx
anyone who actually thinks that is an airhead
but for his fans he is just a cool katana guy
Nearly every Vergil fan
Dude they think Vergil is the first character in fiction to do spacetime cutting with katana
When we have Sasuke and Obito from Naruto
even the reboot vergil did this before him bruh 💔💔💔💔

Every Vergil does that
Even DMC 1
do we count dmc1 vergil as vergil
OH BTW I FORGOT TO ASK
the new characters have "files" do vergil and dante have them?
can i play piano with them like i did with selena
You mean their special comic like interlude? No
ngl
as much as I like both pgr and dmc I don't get why people get so defensive about both games
just enjoy this moment

Ohhh I see I was spamming too many ult taps on Hanying
ok quick question, is there a glaciation rotation for ss wanshi ss selena and yata
I tried to do full ult every time
My Selena is sigless so...
does vergil outdamage pianissimo alone
And Selena it’s not worth to do double flower ult even if I have the orbs, since it can’t be done within 10 seconds?
To be fair I've never seen a DMC fan here being toxic. It's more the PGR fans being toxic to dmc fans and creating drama, saying we're only here for the collab (so what if some people are? some might stay) and telling us to just go back to playing DMC5
Not even remotely close in physical team. Vergil is there only for true slash
Yep
pianissimo does more physical damage but vergil is an ultima slash character
Vergil
Doesn't even come close to Hanying
Let alone Selena
most annoying is usually they want help, they get it and then they refuse it in the end, so it's waste of time
Really? wth lol
so what team would go with vergil
I did ask if sss Vergil is a good investment, got told no, said thanks and now I'm aiming for ss3
hanying and echo
Damn I might need to swipe and get her to SS3 then. Orchestra ult just tickles😩
No no
They ask, they get help, they refuse it, you ask them why theh refuse, they call you meta slave and a waste of oxygen and whatnot, start a fight, mod comes, plays victim, leaves the server
for Physical, Hanying and Echo
for Ultima Slash, Hanying and idk
pretty much this
Did this actually happen LOL
Thats baby raging I'm sorry

Atleast 90% of the time we got a CW simp? Yes
vergil doesnt have a place in physical
Better than Bianca Alter atleast
thats meaningless 😭 does he have 0 use?
U can cope with Vergil
He's the Ultima Slash DPS
Having him in physical is as good as not having him
you rather use hanying atp
fair LOL
High rank Ultima Slash DPS
Solo Hanying is better xD
arent we using glaciation in physical why do we need a ultima slash dps
You need to be at Hero warzone for that
Atleast
Hey I'm there
echo still
Who’s using glaciation for phys??
isnt pianissimo the dps 💔
Bro that’s a totally diff team
Selena
He means Glaciation for Ultima Slash node in Intensive Battle
Ohhhh
wait are you guys using ultima slash in a glaciation dps and team?
Pianissimo Wanshi and Alisa yes
GET READY EVERYONE
EITHER MONZANO OR VERONICA NEXT WEEK
Are the glaciation team
people are using Glacio team against TS boss in IB
Okay so for Glaciation is Echo (she's weird to use I'm ngl) Selena and Wanshi
for Ultima Slash is Bianca Alter/Vergil Hanying and Ecyo
if we get gwyn, then no plasma
Aw hell nah wtf man
We get Gwyn = Monzano
We don't get him = Veronica
we cant use characters based on their element anymore?
It depends on the content. Sometimes it’s just base element, sometimes it’s affix buff
Reminder that Veronica and Monzano have Plasma and Glaciation weakness respectively

how often do i have to make my team according to its affix
It’s just for highest tiers of WZ and UPPC afaik
so vergil is the character that i will use in training zone and never touch
why touch a guy when you can touch selena 
thats a strange question
anyway what about dante
dante is ignition dps
Same as Vergil
Dante is Ignition DPS
affix wz 
wait thats war zone oh ok
but nanami can solo burn 
I thought that was PPC
no thats uppc
Dawg
whats uppc
ever seen 1 boss in whole wz? 
good luck 
Yeah It's over for me
i mean for players not devs
its joever for me too 
i mean dante and vergil are meta, not in element teams but im affix team
did you guys like the new characters
dante burn damage was crazy he had to be nerfed
if you play on chinese version ofc
ackshually oatmealover 
No
This Collab did harm the high ranking players like those on hero ~ legend warzone and ultimate PPC malders
ezra can I ask something
Ye
do you think bianca patch will merge with DMC collab for global
no way
because if it happens, vera and selena will be added to the standard selector
Good chance actually
The next patch for CN is 50 days long
Fair enough
Nah, id ask to ask
If we get DMC and Bianca merged
thats torture no
is vergils jc timing easier than dmc5
asking for a friend :3

where did you guys go
im here but idk anything about dmc 
just like jp server 
can anyone here that played the chinese version inform me please
The timing is kinda easy I'd assume
how does the memory resonance work? need to do it 12 times to awaken the frame
because your core passive icon glows when you need to tap to perfect jc
YOU NEVER USED RESONANCES?
you can only do 3 pjc in a row
HOW DID YOU REACH THAT LEVEL
Not separate moves, timing
you get what i mean
I think u should wait for a cn player to answer that
grinding
isnt he supposed to do 4?
I swear I’m acc stupid I can’t get the glaciation rotation to work my glac battery keeps running out

That was a bad typo🫠
just stay lactoze free
😭😭they got diabetes tho
their main dps cant even move 🗣️🗣️🗣️🗣️🗣️
Oh I figured it out the freakin Alisa QTE resets the battery time
guys what does echo do for glaciation
^
Pretty much that lol
so she is useless for glaciation
No. U need her otherwise ur glac gauge will run out in the middle of ur rotation and Selena will end up doing physical dmg
we are at a point in meta that
we try to avoid our physical dps doing physical damage
Also she helps fill the gauge too
how
Sry I meant she also deals a bunch of glacio dmg
didnt know im supposed to switch to her
U need to leap her in case u didnt know
full leap and i dont know a single thing about her
Well he just deals less dmg
and i cant go for it because first i need nanami sig
His sig is just dmg increase
and before nanami sig
i need geiravor
when will i have time for vergil, vergils sig, vergils cub, dantes sig and dantes cub 😭
2k a week is not enough for anything
Do u have all the “essential” sigs alr like oblivion, shukra, hanying
he is a tank doesnt he need an sig and an entire investment into his sig
I DONT EVEN HAVE SHUKRA AND I DONT HAVE HANYING SIG
What I mean is his core gameplay is not locked behind his sig. sigs like the ones I mentioned give u bonus matrix pings or orbs, or have some mechanic tied to them related to the core gameplay loop
Which effectively lock rotations behind them and are basically essential for smooth use
Sigs like Geiravor’s, Nanami, Wanshi are just % dmg increases
Which are important too since it greatly boosts dmg but doesn’t change acc anything abt their rotation
i am told that tanks require a weapon resonance investment
The other thing is DD and/or DLT reso
hold on
I mean technically every character very badly wants their sig
But if ur on a budget then id prioritize the ones whose rotations are locked behind their weapons cuz ur team isn’t rly functioning otherwise
i dont have a signature weapon for these guys, whos signature do i need to get first
hanying feels bad without sig and dlt
Hey, that's me
Selena gets 6 orbs from her sig when she’s swapped in
Yeah I’d say they’re pretty equal prio
Selena
get ss selena from ppc next
But I was making do with Hanying 5* weap
She can still do a double ult rot
Selena idk how she works without sig
i dont have any skulls
i want geiravor but i probably wont get her sig instantly, i want 1 copy of vergil, his cub, his sig, dante cub and dante sig
tell me what should i do
im in a terrible point i know
Again Geiravor’s sig is not very high prio
compared to hanying or selena
The weapons will always be there so u don’t need to rush
Yes once they’re released they’re in that same weapon banner forever
guys can anyone point me to some 3s invest intensive ppc glacio selena rotation guide
You can always get these after the collab ends. Once collab is gone it is gone. Geiravor weapon is skippable she is FULLY functional without weapon.
i thought they are temporary cause its a collab
No I meant Geiravor’s weapon
Collab never reruns. Even Nier "rerun" is not really a rerun.
so i need the collabs sig and cub
Although I think there is a high likelihood DMC will bring so much profit they may bring it back but still uncertainty.
If ur f2p u cant pull on anything anymore until DMC patch
And u need to obtain every available BC this patch
what if i buy the monthly pass now
Still not enough I think. Min investment for the brothers + sigs and cubs is around 45k BC
would i get enough if i complete the entirity of fate and buy the the expensive monthly pass
U can stack up 2x mailbox monthly pass + login pass
And that’s 300/day
Make sure ur clearing stronghold and all those other side modes
we get daily bc in dmc collab?
we dont 💔
you are an angel for reminding me about the existence of stronghold
It’s pretty easy clear if u have 2-3 gen 3 teams
Or even the older teams do just fine
what is gen 3
The current meta teams
Unofficial terms for every constructs released after Qu.
These ones!^
Starting from Teddy, they have affix in base kit.
I am NOT calling Karen gen 3 lol.
she is gen 5
why do you guys call it karen
Well my point stands. As long as u have a few of those teams stronghold is a breeze
3 less characters 
Gen 3 chars can even solo. They pretty much oneshot every stage xD
Has Karen been “meta” longer than OG Rosetta now?
ina takes not even a second to type
is 119 rainbow card worth buying
Is Dead Line Timing a must on Hanying? I don't know why, but I have corrosion on her weapon resonance
I.G.Y.W.A.C.E.S
agreed
idk good or bad but picked rosetta rigor and tenebrion from chests
they're old units. at best they're your qte bots
Is alpha still worth using?
only if sss
question
anyone know what packs the CN version have for DMC collab?
I've only seen two 328 RC bundles that give 30 Dante and Vergil shards each one
50$ DAMN DOLLARS FOR 30 SHARDS????
you kidding, what in the hell is this garbage deal
yeah, 30 shards is 15k bc which equals 600rc
that's good deal honestly
no wait dmc bois are 10,500 bc per 30 shards
that's still 32 ratio tho
Haha ratio
wait does each pack give shards of both guys or there is one for dante and one for vergil?
How good is Jetavie?
Thinking on using the free 5 star weapon to get her weapon
I have Luna, Lilith and Ishmael
?
who tf is ishtar
its him
I mean she's cute i guess idk about hot
I am dumb
I meant Ishmael
Not sure why i mix the name
either way, would
Dude it's Ishtar omg
Ishmael is good
Well
If she is useless compared to the units i have
Might aswell save the gun currency to get the weapon on the DMC5 collab
She's definitely not useless
for alisa without harmony what should her 2 set memory be
2piece copium

Philip is better for phys right as a 2pc
its its just 2pc the davinci is still better
this is correct and not trolling like the in-game rec?
glad I'm keeping one mission without claiming the reward so she stays on my bridge
Good
What about her giggle
should I burn these to get selena's 5*?
Well
better than wuwa where u need 200-300$ to guarantee a character from nothing
Yeah but characters are optional in WW
In PGR you pull everyone
still less cost than anything wuwa offers for guaranteed
And dont you dare quote me that casual brainrot talk of "i skip for who i like"/ "i main x character"
as a man who has lost 7 times the 50/50 out of 9, I prefer the PGR way
Thank god
I am in meta help why do I do that
Who doesnt lol
50/50 is the worst thing introduced in the history mankind
my friends 💀
agreed that sh1d is so ass
Higher rate here, 100% guarantee here, lesser number of pity here
I still hate hoyo for normalizing 50/50
who doesn't
You'd be surprised
Lets just say, some people's braincells can somehow lose to an amoeba in a battle of cell count
man thats disappointing to know
btw I asked this here like 2-3 days ago whats this standard selector 
You'd be more surprised to know someone people hate faster exploration in WW and even hate the flying gadget
And they prefer gi's way of it
Tbh pgr is so much more niche than wuwa, if pgr had the same banner system as wuwa it would've eos'd a long time ago
wut the
wut
its not gambling if you know you’re winning every 50 50
I dont know, i got it from another server and it summarised nicely so i posted it here
Then someone @ a mod to pin it and somehow it got pinned
One for Dante and another for Worgil

Tho i wish there is indeed a standard selector
So i can finally get my SSS Nanami
will my 5k power S crimson weave outdps my sss 7k power noctis 🤧
A ranks arent made to be meta
So yes
Even if noctis did 1 mil damage per hit, CW would still be preferred cause of time stops
im cooked again 
Not as cooked as me in the last bracket in legend
This is how cooked i was last bracket
wth is this slac bracket, im not even do ice wz this week 
fk ice

besides ld
You can say that again
I love it when wanshi randomly decides he doesnt wanna do his core passive despite me holding the blue orb perfectly
ice funj wym
yall
thats just skill is-
Tmrw is weekly reset right? And also how much bc we can get from weeklies
just Ld not qu rng or ayla
3k for this patch
When is Vera btw?
hold blue? 
02/07
3k bc 
Cause if Lupa and Vera are on same day, i m gonna be so pissed lol
i recently started the game, should i pick ishmael from the base banner?
imagine having to rot ayla smh
Yall in lucia coat pulling i can get lucia coat in 80 pulls or 100?
always assume max pity
which is 500 rc or 17.5k bc
more funds for lucia wedding
no cuz i need every bc i can get or i will have to skip vera
So 80 or 100?
yas queen my wife is getting her dress tmrw
again, always assume max pity
which would be 100 then
in this lucia coat pull it says every 20 guar special reward and special rwewards is 5 and the background is the lowest chance to get and after that lucia so it would be 80 ig?
Cuz when its 60 so u got all the 2nd layer rewards
you will get coat as 80-90 if you unlucky, 100 is for back ground
60 for coat if you lucky
okay good but is the background worth it?
that up to u
subjective
for me no glaze but its my fav so far
I know but lucia coat is unskippable
the anni one does also look good
The church one?
no the space one we will be getting eventually
summer coat vs wedding coat 
you're in wrong channel, #📨・general-help go here
np if i talked here or there
summer coats are kinda overdone
also she is giving lamia abyssal dye coating vibes
plasma saved my ass
If u can pls send me a gameplay of how u do the plasma
I am really done with that or I hav no clue
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LEdRrZrEStI
i use this
SS0 Lucia + SS0 Nanami + SS3 Lilith
Hero Flux, single mob
Flux zone rotation
Applicable team rank and weapon resonance: Lucia SS0 (with DLT)/Nanami SS0/Lilith SS0
Rotation order: Nanami ⮕ Lilith ⮕ Lucia ⮕ Nanami ⮕ ...
[Nanami, Starter]
⬇
[Lilith 1]
1: 🔵🔵 ⮕ ult
2: hold A ⮕ Ult
⬇
[Lucia 1]
hold ult
1: 🔵🔵 + hold ...
I appreciate it
np
should i build ayla (my ice team is just ss wanshi)
i’ve heard we might have an upcoming new ice amp
You should build her in the sense that you should have her in your team as qte bot
Can pick up qu from one of the selectors coming up for a complete ice team
Is getting Nanamer's weapon worth it?
yes
Okay
What
do you sell anymore bitrate
I'm in deficit
you gotta get premium for that
i got roblox builders club
does that count
Get along with the time old man
no this is discord
is that a jien pfp I see
That doesn't even exist anymore
yes
no this is Patrick

I legitimately wondered what happened to the people that bought the lifetime outrageous builders club
did it auto converted to sh*t premium LMFAO

xenowo

licc
cryuwu
Fk if I know, i didnt even know there was a lifetime membership 


im really hoping for either glacial or phys zone this week bro
i just remembered im on legend,but it doesn't matter
ss0 or sss0
well it should roughly be the same
Ss
phys
hold ba - ping (chain core) - ping (core strike) - swap out
I don't remember if u need 3p to filled the gauge
Are u sss 
then for glacio
hold dodge - 3p - dodge - hold ba - ult -dodge 3x - hold ba - ult
ya
but again,the rot should roughly be the same
I do 3p + 1p for that chains attack (wtv it is idk) and then she doesnt get energy for ult right away so I guess another 3p and then ult?
can u send vid
is there anything useful you can do with A rank Cub dupes? Can they be scrapped for something good?
no
what the team of Selena - pianissimo?
Thanks
so just Lingya upgrades material then I guess?
honestly that works
i still disagree on the ts team
but its whatever not like anyone will build ts team
I did
I tried both SS3 balter and selena with both same investment, balter did 2.3m while selena did 2.6m
You should leap Alisa gives her more ult energy so SS + leap is swap in -> hold ba -> cipher orbs -> 3 ping 2x -> ult -> swap off
i disagree on the fact that it's not ts team,but still a phys team
Unleaped SS rot takes very long
you aren't doing any charging up affix battery and/or executing all those stacks for dmg
it's just standard phys
i think you use ts rot for hanying and standard rot for selena and echo.

that make sense
eh I'm probably just stupid and overthinking it
ts a bad team tldr
umbra also bad :lmaocry:
umbra what
Selena doesn't have enough time to get the amp buff on ult2?
The new is always better
can u try hold ba
wait actually
wtf ss0 is wild
ok
maybe u need to do 1 more 3p after chain
okok i see the vision maybe
Wait why are you doing phys alisa
1st swap you need to spend 1 3p
subsequent swap,you just do hold ba 3p chain core strike
do ss0 use glacio rot instead
Do you not do glacio for energy then next rota ult
Oh ss0
Whaduhell
Try it still since I have no clue but
do sss0 use glacio rot
Yeah
wtf
But glacio rot does glacio dmg no? 
It's not for the dmg but for the energy
Tho it could also be a hanying sss thing to get within swap cd
Because with glacio you just barely manage to get the energy before swap
I tried it 
Phys takes too long
kuro really needs a way for us to "downgrade" our ranks
Just making sure
Order is start alisa > insta hanying > selena ?
wow whel issue
At low invest I imagine so
actually suffering from success 
Seems like higher ranks you get more viable Selena start is
This doesnt even work

rip

uhhhh i can't think
try watching 2b


For phys doing hold ba > 3p + 1p + 3p > ult works
Takes too long tbh
Does this fit within 5s
No clue
powerpoint gaming

Let me check

I was charging lmao
I think it takes 5/6s


Can be that too
That one is
Hold Dodge - dodge x3 - Hold atk - Ult
Dodge x 3 then 1ping will trigger the chain first iirc
Ah alr
Should I 2 reso Alisa?
For support stuff
I feel like she might get dropped in the meta sooner
It's In the middle of the overall resonance priority across all of the character
my ss3 nanami is at 4 hershell 4 heisen and 6 atk 6 ult, should i build the 4 hershall 4 heisen 6 atk 6 class for plasma team or not worth\
it's expensive
if you got all other necessary chrs build done only then I'd recommend
Have u r2 ish and lilith yet
does it actually increase dmg much cause im very rich on resources atm
Does
alr bet
That class reso goes crazy
ok for lilith plasma should i do 4 dv 4 guin or 4 dv 2 eins 2 guin
guin for Warzone
ok
Yeah
Then u could r2 echo or save one for r1 gera
Which you think is better with r2 Vera or Alisa?
Vera is used in fire, burn and maybe void if her rank is >= lilith's rank
While echo is used in phys, glac and trueslash
Lilith will probably be higher cuz I can try SSS her with voucher
Yeah its better to use sss r2 lilith than ss0 r2 gera
Kay whel
Did Kuro got possessed??
Is max electric charge when the circle reaches the full gauge once, or is it different? bit confused by the term
What does "Max electric charge" look like?
yes
Is this Pyroath? If so when you look at the Affix it will have a number 1 on it
Yes it's Pyroath
When Affix is activated it will have a yellow color with electric effect on it
max means "greater than 0"?
aka 1?
I think you can only charge it to 1
Not that it matters if you can charge it to 2 anyways
I see. Thanks!
when u see a "1" it means you have it stacked, but not activated
you can ebable by holding ult + hold blue orb with pyro
?
Do we got Vonnegut
no vonnegut = easy
tbh if u have void, clash reflection is not a problem
I used Plasma got around 2mins+
Ish deleted them was pretty easy
oh wait you talking about reset didn’t do it
lemme see
Equal invest fire team (All SS) is 1 rotation each right after Vera?
Yes
Letsgooo. No more double ult rotation Pyroath.
Has anyone tested SSS liv vs SS0 vera already?
Blueprints or HT mats 
Vera is much better, not because of the Buff, but because of the damage she does
spoiler: Vera out-do's Liv even in SSS
Mats ofcourse
Aesthetics vs Power
Oh phew but additional question does it remain the same if its vera with no sig
Though i do know that with vera you remove the wata 2 rot torture
Blueprints
HT mats is limitless unlike them
whoever chose blueprints over ht should be shot in the head
ig I’m dead
Well I choose blueprint cuz I got no need for ht mats
Actually
k whel
New Selena and New Vera are Phys and Fire respectively, right?
Whel
any tips so i can improve my score on ppc?
i can only score 570k to 590k on each bosses my characters are ss with sig and i usually build my characters with the build from grayravens website. is it just skill issue that i cant clear fast enough and cant dodge at all?
yes
kidding aside, there's also few factor that can affect your score like how much invested is your character, are they hypertuned, how much did you resoed each character and such
GrayRavens: Outdated
Mentioning Dodge
Use Celica bot for builds, check Windbell and Acaxi channel on YouTube, make sure you have Harmo and Reso
This
thank you!
you can watch rotations on yt that like have your same build
Is it dumb to ask if sss+ jetavie comes close to lamia ss0 
A full roster of SS with sig will net you 600k+ on PPC btw
Rover yes to what 
Yes it is dumb, it is not close
😨
jetavie deals big dmg but she doesn't have timestop feauture
what should my resonance be
6class
no
sweet
class reso
Epitaph S or Qu shukra S
SSS yes
more reason to pick shukra over uncle
Okie
Make sure to pull her sig
look at this qu shiller
since sss sig startrail nanami can act as fire tank in her burn affix
legs
Is it crucial?
I'm on 27 and I was planning to save it for vera geraivor
i mean
you have sss startrail
To be fair she kind of kills like everything atp
You will want to end yourself if you play sigless Qukra
Okie
oh shukra
Vera sig can wait
it can?
can you?

Or I'll just spend rc and get SSS geravoir first day
It depends
Damn just spend RC
wow, whel
Still 2 Ults if low invest iirc
It's crucial to my life
Yes
Or 1 I dunno
What's low invest there? SS0 R1?
Yeh
It's either 2 Ult Pyroath + 1 Ult Epitaph + 1 Ult Geiravor
Or
2 Ult Pyroath + 2 Ult Epitaph + 1 Ult Geiravor
Geiravor can do 2 Ults at SS0 but she's too slow at that rank
I see
Wait I thought it’s 1 rot for everyone?
Pyro Epi Gera
Wata Vera for Fire
Lilith Nanami for Plasma
Pyroath can still go under 10s with 2 Ults from what I can tell
1s1e
Isn't that 1 rot

Just a stronger attack trust
Is vera's pet worth or skip for SS0
she's free to SS on PPC
CUB is just extra dmg
no I meant is it worth it for an SS0 vera
Is teddy decryptor good
ss is ALWAYS free from ppc shop skulls
if you mean, youll skip Vera's CUB for SS then yes
The cub
Niche
i meant sorry
He asking if cub is nice if only SS0
it's confusing lmao
vera cub for ss vera?
it depends
I need a tier list for who I should spend my money on the most tbh 
but I would go for selena cub priority first
think they asking if its worth to pull another copy of vera or get a cub 
your life
there's no tier list
you get all, and invest more into newer units
You ideally should have everyone at around the same invest
Or else you might encounter rotation bottlenecks
I have no life
I am asking for an SS0 vera is her cub a skip or pull. How much more damge does her cub give her
If you really wanna know who to get SSS ranks on first, go get it for the Tanks first
I love bianca with my life
think the question should be wether to ss3 vera or not
-3s Swap CD is strong
Definitely SSSing her new frame when it comes out
not a giant priority
good for her personal damage just like how all cubs are
i would go for dpses cub first
ie lucia,selena
(cuz I feel like every rotation just assumes you have an SSS Gen 3 Tank for some reason
)
my phys gonna feel weird with sss selena and sss alisa but ss3 hanying
do we know how strong new Bianca cub is, or still to early for those numbers?
Im ss0 selena
dunni
The moment I experienced playing SSS Epitaph, I literally couldn't go back anymore
Thinking if I should pull Selena cub or save, only have tickets for one
all beta number crunchers guy are gone
What's this week wz?
Playing teams with non-SSS Tanks just feel bad now
dunno prediction is dead
We can't predict it anymore
Fk
blame kuro
Global's WZ became server-sided
git gud globlul
Which means our cycles are now completely unique
Me counting timer to use Wanshi Ult in Glacio bcs he's SS3 😭
I dunno I just saw Aether say it
no unique cycles
you could look into kr wz to see what's the zone ig
At that point I'd just do 2 Ults lmao 
and test it
im actually not qute sure
Eats up Glacio timer 😭
Doesn't really matter when Selena only does 1 Ult tho
Still enough for 2 Hold Dodge?
Yeh
6 screen + 24 drone?
Yeh, in that order too


man, feesh got cooked so quick quickly 
That's what i did for my Cradle run 
Same
Time to retry 
Oh right forgot to tell, it's not 24 drone, just 12
If you're at SSS Wanshi, 12 Drone will be the exact time Selena goes off cd

So just 6 screen + 12 drone (this assumes you have 12 stacks ready tho)
So his rotations will alternate every swap
Wait is Selena's flower ult tied to her SSS?
Not SSS, SS3
SS3 for Phys and SS0 for Glacio
The one that's locked at SSS is her Blue orb
Blue orb?
Yeah the one where she does multiple slashes going up
elegantly
Oh I need to see this animation
Whats ss3 glacio selena rot?
Swap in
3p - ba hold - 3p - ult1
Dod hold - 6 ⚪ - dod hold - ult2 ?
Yes
4klev?
Wait her blue orb at SSS has a different animation or it just makes it viable to use?
do another ba hold
viable to use
Interstellar Resonance
When there are 60 Melody Points, Concerto Orbs' Variation Points acquisition efficiency doubles. Each Musical Note consumed will increase the Base DMG of the next Melodic Outburst by 20%, up to 100%. Casting Signature Majestic Interlude/Signature - Note of Termination will increase the Base DMG of QTEs by 500% throughout the battle.
Gains 1 Musical Note, 12 Signature Energy, and 1 Signal Orb upon entering the battlefield. Musical Notes are capped at 5 instead. When performing a ping to cast Basic Attack - Echoing Melody, converts maximum 6 Signal Orbs to Musical Notes. With 4/5 Musical Notes, increases Base DMG of Basic Attack - Echoing Melody to 300%/600% instead. During Lingering Echoes, Selena deals 100% more Extra DMG.
Ahhh.. Okay good cuz I wondered if they ever locked animations behind ranks
Ahhh text wall jumpscare
Ya 4klev
Should i 2cot 2klev?
4 Klev a lot more dmg 
honestly i found 2klev to be better
but others said 4klev
need more testing to say the least
4klev make sense since you are only doing 1 rot
2cot allows more rot variant
atleast that's what i got from treepy ss3 video
like again
still need testing

all the rot variants for glacio there are 4klev tho
ofc kuso game
oh
bro what the fk
Fine by me
I'm skipping that sh*t
oh vera releases on july 2
man
uhh im very confused on how to build selena what would you guys say i should stick for now
(for wz/general use only no ppc zaza) if below sss
4pc burana 4pc cottie for phys
4pc burana 4pc kle for glacio
if ur sss and above no need to build 4kle
wait not 2pc cottie 2 klev on glacio?
cant you only use 6 pc?
harmo
+2pc from harmo
For the fire rotation, does epitaph still do 2 ult rots if you don't have his wep and Geiravor only does one?
4kle generally scores better
interesting
is SSS kaleido better than SS3 lilith for SS3 parhelion ?
anyways its not that big of an investment, just 2 extra memories to tune and reso
What team is Plasma again?
pyroath, lilith, nanami
Is this it? Harmo?
yes
yes
okay thank u sm
At that point Lilith is a bit better
SS3 Lilith has more buffs than SSS Kaleido
nuh uh at ss3 ish if paired with lilith she loses an entire ss3 tank state increase
the real answer for best amp for tankmael ss3+ is actually geiravor
Vera: dps set or davinci? (Got both lucia and wata)
dv
Ty
sooo like which one is the best out of these?
cuz I will only have:
SS0 geiravor
SS3 lilith
SSS kaleido
still geiravor
ok
4Burana 4Klev seems to have energy issue somehow
for glacio?
yeah
wdym energy issue, you only ult2 once
I tried it for PPC doesn't have enough energy or smthing?
if u mean opener lacking energy just keep holding ba for ur 2nd 3ping
After the first 3p you hold BA then ping another 3p, it will buffer the Hold BA for faster Ult
In white mode you do Hold Dodge then have to wait a bit for 6 Concerto Orbs tho, instead of getting down faster with Hold BA
sss+ jetavie outdid sss dark luna right?
Probably 
wtf that's tragic
well, there is a way to still have the hold ba even with 4kle https://streamable.com/cgct7m
thoughts on pyroath im thinking of getting her
Meta fire and plasma dps
Skipping is bricking
What's the diff between advanced and master?
that crazy? T0T
Yes
Can't substitute her with dante or hyperreal, they are eons apart
So 1 more 3p for the Hold BA
It is faster right
Phantom cafe
Mainly because pyroath has insane fire damage and there is no other plasma dps
Cage
PPC has Master diff?
It's ultimate not master 
I am sorry
You can get more skulls in ultimate, you have a button titled "outlier point"
Each boss you play there and score above 580k gives you a one time claimable skull reward
It's ok, keep in mind the bosses in ultimate rotation are much tougher
kinda yeah, but it also make doing ult2 within the amp buff duration very tight
But just for the first time skull rewards it's still worth doing it for a week
very tight
ohh that fixes it thankss
i..want..black..card..
How does one Plasma rotation?
why cant i activate ionization on cradle ppc?
Or maybe the plasma gauge
Normal PPC
hanying is class passive now?
Uuhhhhhhhhh

i think i ate
i got the hang of the ultima slash mechanic at the last 5 secs but still slay
You atleast ate something
hater
Whats your team investment
bianca ss3/sig/dlt hanying ss/sig/dlt alisa ss/sig/amp reso
its not abt investment i belive
i just hate affix teams
Ehh
me too, lets go play zzz
You could get better
just glacio it bruh put the ts in the bag
Kinda
Ss0 han not stacking enought fast
Buth able to better
Memory resonance?
Yes
she is?
i got 2 different answers 
Why?
Is get wanshi lucid dreamer from dorm reedeem thing worth it?( if i save it and wait till i got wanshi from normal banner i can get him to ss immedialety)
always buy the characters from dorm
It's better to unlock him through the Dorm Dispatch shop
they're essentially free
In ppc yes
Wz personaly try core han
I not sure about han coreless reso dmg
wtf is this event
Why not Class Passive?
i have to finish all the dmc events today
Pianissimo is already the main Dps in the physical team
I need answer pls😭😭
they always looks crazy hard cuz of the chinese language or sum
maybe it is
idk im trying to figure out myself they asked my selena investment then said keep core hanying
nvm selena killed it in like 10s
I basicaly try both and after decide
The next 3 messages after your question was your answer
the answer is yes 😭 😭
Oh,i did not see it,mb,thx yall
i guess ill keep core for now

why was i using selena, vergil just kills everything
Pray

as an f2p what should my minimum invest be for dante and vergil. is one copy each enough?
SS i would guess
Why we had rosters when vergil exist


alright, last question does anyone know how big of damage output does getting selenas, veras, and the sparda bros cubs give
What effect teams are actually playable for low investment?

Every single one except trueslash
Truetrash
Trashslash
Weren't there a video of SS0 rank Vergil in ultima slash warzone?
It's the hanying that has to have investment I think
Stacks
need to invest in booba
ss3 
too many teams now, just build who u like and build around them
the meta wants u to have everyone and their moms
I have to ask for this one cos there's a chance I TRY to get an effect team and it literally just doesn't work cos there's not much buildup
chat what zone we got
is this real????
@grok
glacio is pretty cheap to build
yeah right
BRO????
lightning is pretty free
wtf glacio and phys in zone 3
WHAT
I KNOW RIGHT
I thought it was a glitch
it is
It actually is a glitch? are yall gonna get punished for that
guys whos the hottest character here?
kuro will take it back tomorrow









