📨・meta-help

[sly geyser]

TAKE THE BOW

[white oriole]

I used it long ago 💔

[wide wedge]

It's a lighting bow tho?

That's kinda confusing lmao

[white oriole]

It's still a Bow, Alisa can equip it

[worthy token]

better base stat than the 5*

[azure barn]

https://youtu.be/RzJR1NxZzic?si=tvTl_6ft04xnShAG

[gilded flint]

for 232 110 111 glaciation, Once I activate wanshi ult I just have to swap to selena? I cant continue with pistol and drone ults?

[azure barn]

hell yeah

[sly geyser]

doesn't matter, just take it

[azure barn]

Prop Hunt is probably the only fun event gamemode in PGR lmao

[white oriole]

Yeah when you Ult you trigger Glacio so want to swap to Selena

[gilded flint]

TAKE THAT BACK THERES CAT GRAB

[azure barn]

I personally never found that fun

[sly geyser]

wdym cat grab was last patch

[white oriole]

Cat grab 🥱

[gilded flint]

Cat grab encompasses all and is my purpose in life

[wide wedge]

Alright I'll get it
It's used with signa and davinci right?

[gilded flint]

yea

[sly geyser]

ye

[azure barn]

PGR can usually do coop events well enough

I mean, have y'all experienced the Monster Hunter-like event back then?

[white oriole]

Can Tonitrus on Alisa reso Axial?

[azure barn]

it was buggy as hell but damn was it fun

[white oriole]

I have all the titles

[sly geyser]

yeah

[white oriole]

Peak event

[sly geyser]

truly peak

[azure barn]

you can

it doesn't have to be her Sig to get resos on it

[gilded flint]

skipped, but mainly not my fault

[pine slate]

Cuz it's the only weapon type that's still being used by one of the meta unit

[white oriole]

🔥

[azure barn]

what about the coop snowball event?

[sly geyser]

now imagine giving it back to veritas

[azure barn]

so based for that

[white oriole]

💔

I missed it it seems

[sly geyser]

what snowball

[azure barn]

the one where we control the white robots from ARU and just throw snowballs at each other until someone wins

[white oriole]

I love doing a stage 40 times

[sly geyser]

ah yeah it would've been fun

[river nymph]

candy crush goat

[sly geyser]

if the pgr coop mode was not that buggy lmao

[sly geyser]

shite event

[white oriole]

It's fun for the first 5 times I'd rather do the slide event

[sly geyser]

why pgr discord events are so quiet

[azure barn]

I unfortunately missed the Amberia global event

missed the best sticker in PGR

[sly geyser]

what sticker ?

[azure barn]

the nanamiphew sticker

[sly geyser]

me who doesn't care abt stickers

[azure barn]

that one

[sly geyser]

AHHHHHH

I thought it was one of the starting stickers

[trim mortar]

Selena reso atk+core ?

[white oriole]

I missed a Nanami sticker...

[azure barn]

yessir

[sly geyser]

[trim mortar]

Thanks

[sly geyser]

u knew the answer didn't you

[trim mortar]

Just making sure

[sly geyser]

ah make sense

[white oriole]

Oh Tundra updated

[pine slate]

[azure barn]

the elusive proxy fight mechanic

[pine slate]

I haven't even touched tundra yet

Honestly I don't think I ever will

[echo ocean]

Oh man

[azure barn]

I've only done it once lmao

[sly geyser]

k whel

[white oriole]

I still like Cursed Waves the most

[azure barn]

10/110 so far

[echo ocean]

0/110

[sly geyser]

nah RDF better

[pine slate]

Roguelikes are so damn boring in this game

[white oriole]

Matrix is a close second ig

[worthy token]

hypertune is so expensive does a QTE bot need hypertune?

[azure barn]

hell nah 🥀

[echo ocean]

Dfm is better

[white oriole]

Jetavie kinda carried it

[pine slate]

Idk who's pitching the idea of creating more roguelikes

[echo ocean]

Agreed

[white oriole]

[sly geyser]

who else

if not solon himself

[white oriole]

Yet no Bianca theme roguelike

[worthy token]

really? I find it way more fun than hi3/hsr/zzz/wuwa roguelikes

[rocky wedge]

Touch me instead

[pine slate]

Does solon even still give a sht about pgr?

[pine slate]

https://tenor.com/view/cat-cat-stare-side-eye-side-eye-meme-ginger-cat-gif-9337430562745204577

[worthy token]

the wuwa roguelike is garbage right now, there isnt even a difficulty choice

[white oriole]

His wife is in PGR so

[pine slate]

They're all trash

[sly geyser]

the dream thingy... I forgot the name

[pine slate]

I haven't seen a single good roguelike in a gacha game

[white oriole]

It has the kit changing thing I like it

[upbeat orchid]

With a team of Pyroath, Geiravor and Epitath, should I ever swap to and from Epitath, or just do Geiravor and Pyroath's rotations and treat Epitath as a QTE bot?

[sly geyser]

they're here just to lake u grind anyway

don't ask for too much

[white oriole]

Do 1 rot for everyone

[pine slate]

Epitaph 1 rotation

[azure barn]

Solaris Film Festival is basically "we just remade Illusive Realm, but with only the bad stuff!!!!"

[sly geyser]

[upbeat orchid]

Tyvm

[worthy token]

the old iterations of wuwa weekly roguelike was better, because it had kit changes and the current weekly iteration of it has the smallest pool of generic buffs ive ever seen

[pine slate]

It's not even worth tbh

[maiden thicket]

true its so dogsht even the current weekly one is better

[sly geyser]

shite because it's gacha

[rocky wedge]

It's worth just doesn't feel like it cause of repetitions ♿

[raw swift]

Is SSS+ jetavie stronger than SS0 lamia both no sig

[white oriole]

The current Film event has the atmosphere I will be the only one like it

[rocky wedge]

Can't have fun and have nice rewards at same time I guess

[echo ocean]

The peak content they have rn is the peak of prestige in my opinion

[raw swift]

And more importantly would it even be worth using it over luna nanami lilith solo

[worthy token]

I actually like the PGR roguelike a lot (good difficulty, lots of variation in artifacts and buff rng, also theres an actual story + endings) so seeing kuro not cook wuwa made me sad

[pine slate]

Good difficulty?

[rocky wedge]

No, if lamia is brick then just use the wanshi / Nana + Luna Strat

[azure barn]

this is what happens when a game tries to pander to a wider audience

[white oriole]

PGR story and WuWa story 💀 At least the presentation is better

[maiden thicket]

that one is fine but rn there isnt enough variety for it to be fun for a longer amount of time
and the balance is completely broken

[worthy token]

well you can actually choose a difficulty here... in wuwa there is easy mode and thats it

[pine slate]

Idk about the story aspect tho, I only do roguelike for the rewards

[echo ocean]

For me worth it since I don't have Luna or lamia

[azure barn]

doing this in an inherently niche genre is kind of a mistake ngl

not that you can't pull it off, but there's just way too many systems in gachas that just stops making stuff work

[rocky wedge]

Pgrs rogue likes would be better if they were faster

[worthy token]

yeah every minigame and alternate gameplay mode that gachas do is an attempt to keep players playing after the less than 5 minutes of dailies

but since theyre just... side temporary modes, they cant devote that much dev time to it and it just shoots itself in the foot

[rocky wedge]

But finishing a whole run can take time

[pine slate]

Would be better if they gave more levels

[rocky wedge]

Especially multiple runs

[warped axle]

pgr chars have no nose

[rocky wedge]

Or that also works

[pine slate]

Just make it so that u don't have to do the same thing like 60 times just to get all the rewards

[warped axle]

ah yes, I forgot I'm in #📨・meta-help again

[rocky wedge]

But ye same theme, just making the time to do it not as painful

[white oriole]

Idk why they had limit on EXP for Tundra

Before the update I’m pretty sure the cap was 3042

Not sure about now

[worthy token]

they could do better by trying to implement hi3 QOL, where if you already beat the roguelike at this difficulty, then all future runs you can skip to the 8th node

or some equivalent for PGR

[raw swift]

That's what really made me feel weird about lilith

[white oriole]

Elysian Realm the best roguelike 🔥

[worthy token]

Don't shame her plastic surgery, it was nonconsensual

[azure barn]

it's kinda sad that Gachas make genuinely good gameplay loops feel bad to play

[raw swift]

Every character has atleast a line or a bit of shade for the nose but Lilith has NOTHING

[pine slate]

Ye

[rocky wedge]

Shes a robot she doesn't need it xd

[azure barn]

cuz imo Cursed Waves has a pretty good gameplay loop, it's just that it doesn't work in today's gacha culture

[upbeat orchid]

Before being told to check out Spider 2B here, I learned how to do rotations from Narushio, and Narushio's video for Pyroath shows a completely different plasma rotation from Spider 2B O_O

[worthy token]

Cursed waves just needs to remove the Battle ending screen animation like DFM and it would be so much better to grind

[rocky wedge]

Its probably wrong ngl

[white oriole]

I heard Spider2B Plasma guide was okayge

[rocky wedge]

Most people would of gotten plasma wrong if they aren't competitive

[white oriole]

Still better to check out the dalaos instead tho

[pine slate]

Narushio rotation is most likely wrong

[rocky wedge]

Cause also rot changed a bit after Lilith too

So any plasma run Pre Lilith not reliable unless you not using Lilith xd

[pine slate]

The best way to learn a rotation is thru asking for inputs here, then watching a warzone vid of a good player

Don't rely on guide vids

[azure barn]

Spider2B's was fact-checked by like 10 dalaos so it's reliable at least

[rocky wedge]

Just watch nuke017

[cold walrus]

cursed waves was really fun to grind, i even completed it on two accs

[azure barn]

if homeless invest, watch Firefly

[rocky wedge]

If you are ss0 player, ss3 and higher you can watch rydle and yomm

[steep ivy]

Does anyone knows why my alisa echo qte doesn't fill up my glaciation bar

[rocky wedge]

Its still best to watch an actual good run

[echo ocean]

Is wanshi the enabler for glaciation?

[azure barn]

true

[azure barn]

yes

[echo ocean]

Agreed

[echo ocean]

Thanx

[white oriole]

https://youtu.be/LEdRrZrEStI I used this But nuke017 got higher score

[white oriole]

Ran out before or you haven’t upgraded her Leap?

[echo ocean]

The only cons with it is that they use ss3 or above. So to speak we need to upg for a smooth rotation like the pros

[rocky wedge]

Somethings can only be learned tje hard way

[echo ocean]

Based on evo

[azure barn]

I could never mald Ion like they do man, too busy tunnel-visioning on the Ion gauge

[pine slate]

There r good ss0 players

[obsidian dune]

whats the highest score for this week plasma hero

ss0

[echo ocean]

Yeah but the score won't be the highest, still goood

[steep ivy]

Oh so do I have to upgrade her leap at what level?

[azure barn]

somewhere around 7m ig? Assuming 223

[pine slate]

Score won't be highest unless u have sss+ everyone

[steep ivy]

Cause currently her leap lvl is all lvl 1

[rocky wedge]

Can have highest for your invest tho

With huaxu it's pretty easy to see that

[chilly trail]

1st leap need lvl 9 for her qte

[pine slate]

Upgrade all leap skill to 18

[steep ivy]

I see thx

[obsidian dune]

im getting 5.26 mil

[trim mortar]

Tf i can't buy bathlon right now

[rocky wedge]

I think Nuke said the score is similar to last round but less waves for that score

[trim mortar]

Can't build jetavie sheeh

[pine slate]

Try the fragment shop

[azure barn]

gotta wait until Jetavie releases lmao

[obsidian dune]

so how many waves?

i got to wave 31

[pine slate]

Memory shards or fragments, I forgot what they're called

Iirc I got w34? I'm 6.7m

[trim mortar]

Okay I will do that instead

[obsidian dune]

hm

[pine slate]

I'm ss3 pyro tho

[obsidian dune]

i need to line up waves better

[obsidian dune]

do yall figure it out yourselves or you take reference

[pine slate]

I ask for input, watch a wz run

[azure barn]

If I just want the general rotation I watch a vid

[pine slate]

That's it lmao

[azure barn]

but I usually adjust runs by myself

[pine slate]

But I stopped malding already tho

If u wanna mald, talk to other malders

[obsidian dune]

so u copy someone elses input

[pine slate]

They have more insight

[azure barn]

yeah just inputs

[obsidian dune]

ah

[pine slate]

Kinda

[obsidian dune]

idk thats like malder territory

[vernal hatch]

Can someone tell me is going for selena,vera worth doing for a f2p player that priorities the DMC collab ? Well i want both selena and vera but im afraid that I won't have enough cards for the DMC collab and miss the characters

[trim mortar]

Cottie or darwin for jetavie

[obsidian dune]

im already in first so ill pass

[azure barn]

cuz usually if I wanna straight up copy someone, it's usually impossible since everyone has different invest levels

[pine slate]

U won't miss

[obsidian dune]

true

[azure barn]

so I'm more inclined to try stuff by myself

[pine slate]

Should have enough unless ur going for dupes

[obsidian dune]

i also try myself but i really dont know what im doing

[trim mortar]

I will just go Darwin

[white oriole]

I fully copied a rot But I’m slowing understanding what I’m doing with Pyroath now, slowly

[obsidian dune]

i see decent score im happy

[vernal hatch]

I went for selena already and i got her but now i have 0 cards and vera is also coming but even that's not a problem ? So i can go for vera freely and get the collab characters

[pine slate]

I copy someone else and figure stuff out along the way

[faint monolith]

Ion do you even do Lucia's full rot if there's no way to slow plasma gauge's consumption

[pine slate]

Current patch is a triple patch sync

U get a lot

[vernal hatch]

Cards ?

[azure barn]

you can freeze it with timestop tho, that's why you'll see Slash Ults a lot

[pine slate]

Ye

[rocky wedge]

He is legend this week but looks of it, this would be wave 36+ or so in hero

[faint monolith]

So you don't do tap ult in plasma?

[obsidian dune]

with ss0?

[steady otter]

Im on vacation buddy

[steady otter]

xdd

[azure barn]

you do, but usually only in the end of a rotation + Eclipse Ult is more of a 1st half of the run kind of rotation

[vernal hatch]

Also does the collab character shards will be available im phantom pain or WZ ? Or do i have to spin for the shards as well

[azure barn]

as the run goes on, Slash Ults become better and better

[obsidian dune]

shards wont be in ppc

[azure barn]

that's why you usually see people do 2s1e on the first 2 swaps then 4-5 slash at the last 2

[vernal hatch]

So the only wet to get them is by pulling in the gacha ?

[obsidian dune]

yes

[chilly trail]

Dmc get 1 free 1 for 2time

[vernal hatch]

Like 60 pulls for 2x of the character ?

[azure barn]

yeah

[fresh hill]

[azure barn]

and that's effective on 2 S Rank pulls for Dante and Vergil each

[vernal hatch]

So 60 pulls means instant SS

[azure barn]

pretty much

[chilly trail]

1 pull each
Dante will be SS3
Vergil SS

[vernal hatch]

Why dante ss3 ?

Its 30 shards right

[azure barn]

cuz he has a free copy

[white oriole]

You get a free Dante

[chilly trail]

Do story get 1 copy

[fresh hill]

[vernal hatch]

Oooooooh i see

[azure barn]

damn still no rest from those kinds of comments huh

[white oriole]

Please rest Empress don’t let these ppl affect your health

[azure barn]

valid crashout

[vernal hatch]

Btw i saw from a video that Chinese verison gave the banner with a discount for the amount of cards required to pull is that true and can be expected in the global collab as well ?

[azure barn]

yes

one pull only costs 150 BC for DMC iirc

[rocky wedge]

2.0 2.0 3.0

[vernal hatch]

So 10 is 1.5K ?

Nice nice nice

[chilly trail]

175

[azure barn]

oh 175

but yeah there's the discount

[rocky wedge]

Ss0 Lucia + nanami, SSS Lilith

[vernal hatch]

Still nice nice nice

[obsidian dune]

10.5k bc total

for one character

[azure barn]

for just 21k BC, Dante is already SSS which is crazy ngl

(also since Burn is the best team in CN atm)

[vernal hatch]

For SSS+

?

[obsidian dune]

do the math yourself bruh

[still moat]

Dmc talk in my #📨・meta-help

[obsidian dune]

bro started asking this a couple min ago

[rocky wedge]

Well they will be meta in burn and Ts

[vernal hatch]

I have no idea about how many copies are required for a max character

[still moat]

Except they are gonna be skipping other characters

[sly geyser]

10

[still moat]

Simply move them to #📨・general-help it's the entire reason why the channel was split in the first place

[rocky wedge]

Their SSS won't be meta for the entire game tho - this is the dumb ideal that shouldn't be welcome here

[obsidian dune]

its bum that they are only used for their affix cuz now all gen 3 units have potential to be in atleast 2 teams

[rocky wedge]

I didn't see anyone talking about skipping anyone

Not yet at least xd

[sly geyser]

me

skip DMC

[white oriole]

Scroll up we had a DMC skip session

[still moat]

The only dmc and skipping talk allowed here is to skip dmc

[rocky wedge]

Oh that's probably after I came

[white oriole]

Ppl here convinced me to skip DMC for Selena skin

[vernal hatch]

Hmm ... Is the conversion i started here is against the terms of this channel ?

[rocky wedge]

No

[sly geyser]

yeah move to #📨・general-help

[white oriole]

This channel is DMC hate channel No you’re fine

[obsidian dune]

this server needs a dedicated dmc-help channel

[rocky wedge]

You are asking general questions, notjing wrong with that

[obsidian dune]

people cant read

[rocky wedge]

It's literally next patch for us

[obsidian dune]

when they see dmc = neurons activated

[still moat]

#📨・general-help it's in the name of the channel

[rocky wedge]

It's not like it's months away or anything

[sly geyser]

it's in august

we're in june

[rocky wedge]

Barely in June

[still moat]

If people see us interacting with dmc questions here more people would also come here to ask more dmc questions

[chilly trail]

[still moat]

No one wanna deals with that

[rocky wedge]

This was a problem before when people want to discuss characters that aren't even out of beta lmao

[obsidian dune]

^

[rocky wedge]

And ontop of that are like a year away

[sly geyser]

the only thing I always say is skip dmc anyway

[rocky wedge]

If you can read, and take your head from your ass, the rules clearly welcome meta questions - DMC, like it or not, are meta in specific content, asking questions about their functions is really nitpicking

[still moat]

Just move them to #📨・general-help and if u wanna help them u can interact with them there

[sly geyser]

nah just skip

and move to #📨・general-help

[rocky wedge]

Eh you guys are acting no better honestly

[upbeat orchid]

I have Lucia: Pyroath on SS with DLT and I genuinely can't pull this off, probably a skill issue but there's just so little time to do everything before Plasma runs out
Video is timestamped
https://youtu.be/EQ37wUV23GA?t=992

[sly geyser]

s2b...

[azure barn]

that's with the assumption that EVERYONE who asks about DMC are stubbornly non-meta players which is just not true

[rocky wedge]

You have to fast with plasma

[still moat]

They are already talking about how much S+ dmc cost u really think they are not gonna skip any character before DMC ?

[obsidian dune]

cant pull off what lol

[upbeat orchid]

The second rotation without using Lilith's second ultimate, doing everything after triggering the plasma as Pyroath and not as Daemonessa

[rocky wedge]

Well all the teams now have quite right timings so it's practice difference really, your muscle memory will get faster if you want it to

[azure barn]

they could also just be asking for curiosity, not everyone has a motive like that y'know

[chilly trail]

Hold blue

[obsidian dune]

i dont undertsand

[upbeat orchid]

I know HOW to trigger it

[obsidian dune]

whats the problem

[chilly trail]

Wat da problem

[sly geyser]

so what's bro problem?

[azure barn]

might be rotation diff

[still moat]

It's presumption, u can simply tell by the way they are asking it

[rocky wedge]

There is also Pre tapping 3ps and ult so there is 0 time loss

[azure barn]

it's still an unfair way of judgement, cuz you could just be wrong anyways

[upbeat orchid]

The problem is the plasma runs out before I manage to: 3-ping blue multiple times to charge the fast diving ultimate, doing the fadeaway attack (the swords and eye one), tap ult to fly, hold attack to use swordwaves and use the finishing ult with the eclipse. Plasma runs out for me when I'm in the middle of doing the swordwaves before the final ult.

[still moat]

Sure guy with dante pfp, asking about DMC related stuff and how much the S+ gonna cost is just solely for curiosity

[rocky wedge]

I've seen this same thing with every other team man - look at the casual to competitive ratio in the game now, it's going to work like this for every team? I don't think so

[upbeat orchid]

It might be lack of practice with the fadeaway attack now that I think about it

[chilly trail]

Just learn this instead
https://youtu.be/LEdRrZrEStI

[sly geyser]

I mean they didn't splitted the channel for nothing

[rocky wedge]

If the question turns to some general help question then sure the person should move there, if not then whatever

[obsidian dune]

running out of plasma gauge is skill issue

u just need to do it faster

[azure barn]

I mean yeah, but the blame doesn't fall on JUST them

[warped axle]

https://youtu.be/LEdRrZrEStI?si=RHwx264E_unZ0nXD just use this, its a better rotation

[obsidian dune]

but yes there are easier rots for you to do

[rocky wedge]

It's part of the same thing xD getting general help for the correct thing to do is not meta?

[azure barn]

I dunno bout y'all but y'all are being too hostile

[warped axle]

that's meta help for ya

[rocky wedge]

Better to ask that kind of question here anyway since in general help you could get miss information

[sly geyser]

gph will never die

[warped axle]

I got 4.2 mil flux with the advanced rotation, almost same score as some guy with SS3 pyro in my bracket

[still moat]

Then u could answer them there

[sly geyser]

so what was even the point of splitting then

[still moat]

Why are we trying to justify this

[warped axle]

filtering

[sly geyser]

u should just main the gen-help chat to avoid that

[rocky wedge]

Point is you can actually not be forced to deal with it here

[sly geyser]

looks like it ain't working lmao

[rocky wedge]

That is the point

[sly geyser]

casuals still coming here

[warped axle]

wdym casuals

[frank kindle]

i still give meta answers in general 2

[obsidian dune]

i already said you need to have a dmc-help channel to actually filter

[sly geyser]

lmao

[obsidian dune]

rn is no diff

[warped axle]

lmao

[azure barn]

problem is that y'all just immediately jump the gun and be snarky as hell the moment you see someone like DMC in here

[rocky wedge]

Ye maybe they dont want to be casual anymore? You think they will change that too seeing this Bs attitude too when asking question lmao

[frank kindle]

dead channel on arrival

bricks gonna help another bricks

[rocky wedge]

You should like what the real issue here is because there is two sides

[sly geyser]

DMC tourists

[obsidian dune]

or have a channel that has all the dmc information

[warped axle]

dmc-help? more like 🧱-help

[azure barn]

like, do you REALLY wanna help or what???

[rocky wedge]

Both sides should just learn to take their head out their ass and problem solved x)

[sly geyser]

we need a brik channel too tbh

[still moat]

Or just move to #📨・general-help like it's intended in the first place

[warped axle]

CC's who came for DMC already spit a lot of misinfo

[sly geyser]

people like being like they like

u cannot really change that

[nova forum]

Damn I missed the drama

[sly geyser]

there's no drama

[noble zinc]

[sly geyser]

[frank kindle]

only bricks

[sly geyser]

yea the real thing about all this

are bricks

[warped axle]

https://tenor.com/view/man-free-man-freedom-free-chain-gif-2032133702890087634

you find real freedom by uninstalling pgr

[obsidian dune]

its not about us being snarky if someone asks how much bc to get s+ dmc you know they skipping everything

or if youre an actual whale youd know yourself and wont ask here

[still moat]

Bro the guy has Dante pfp it doesn't take rocket science to figure out what they are gonna do in this game

[warped axle]

just snap them out of it, its stupid

[sly geyser]

dmc tourists in a nutshell

[frank kindle]

score 1m with their s+ dante obviously

overestimated a little bit

[sly geyser]

300k

[warped axle]

S+ vergil doing 500k in phys while Selena does 10 mil

[sly geyser]

because they used dante for fire content

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/936177246018895882/1322031512710811760/1263735698985586709.gif

[still moat]

Oh they weren't here when there is a guy that kept saying like 10 times about how SSS Dante = SS3 pyro on fire
They don't deal with this on regular basis so they are trying to tolerate it

[sly geyser]

they don't main this channel often

that's why they think they're better

[frank kindle]

havent read so much copium in such a small amount of time tbh

[warped axle]

imagine not getting pyro, bro gonna be doing 10k score on Plasma

literal goated team

[sly geyser]

BuT BuT I'M HeRe fOr DmC AnYwAy

[faint monolith]

https://tenor.com/view/punishing-gray-raven-pgr-uninstall-launcher-pgro-gif-14146122906222480955

[obsidian dune]

look mom i can play dmc on my phone

[azure barn]

is this really still an excuse to treat other people the same way, even when they literally haven't done anything yet?

[sly geyser]

oh nice my child now I can save money and don't buy that... what do you call it... a playstashon ?

[nova forum]

Profile profiling

[cyan pollen]

did anyone clear this challenge and how

[nova forum]

Very nice

[sly geyser]

just keep recruiting

[cyan pollen]

usual help channels not helping

[obsidian dune]

this in cursed waves?

[cyan pollen]

yes

[obsidian dune]

just keep recruiting breh

[frank kindle]

there is curse that let u buy 4 times instead of rolling

[obsidian dune]

do every stage and recruit

[cyan pollen]

mfs i keep recruiting best i got is 21

[sly geyser]

usual dumbasses globlul not reading

[frank kindle]

read handbook maybe

[azure barn]

ngl why do y'all keep defaulting to being assholes at the smallest hint of trouble that might not even happen

[warped axle]

get recruiting

-# or get milkshake and fight 2 shake speares to get free shop items for your run

[frank kindle]

or get curse so u cant reroll but u can buy everyone on first page

[sly geyser]

get the longer endings dumbass

[cyan pollen]

whats the curse called

[still moat]

It's just moving them to a different and more appropriate channel

[frank kindle]

how about u read pin, take out cw handbook

[sly geyser]

imagine reading

[cyan pollen]

i did bro

but sure imma read it again thx

[azure barn]

not every DMC lover is a giga casual tho

[verbal cloak]

is the top slot for pyro ss3 any atk?

[obsidian dune]

yes

atk or basic

[sly geyser]

that's why they splitted the channel, casual or not the better place is the gen-help

it just literally take 0.1s

[azure barn]

isn't this just unfair treatment tho

[sly geyser]

not the real unfair treatment

[obsidian dune]

bro thinks this is racial segregation or some shi

[sly geyser]

it's when they splitted the channel in the first place

[nova forum]

https://docs.google.com/document/u/0/d/1AZG9V0J0It5TcKRN1aPYTicje-Cb0gjA2tPR-SYH9H4/mobilebasic#h.bb08j5q4rbzv

[river nymph]

[cyan pollen]

thank you

[nova forum]

All the information you need or want about CWaves are in that

[still moat]

I kept repeating this sentence like 3 times already, that dude has Dante pfp u can make a conclusion from that and then they dropped the ultimate how much S+ gonna cost

[sly geyser]

tell them to read maybe they'll listen to you

[azure barn]

that still doesn't excuse a snarky response right from the get go

[still moat]

But I'm just telling them to go to #📨・general-help ?

It's when u are trying to defend and justify this that become a problem

[river nymph]

[nova forum]

Ngl this channel should just be renamed to "competitive contents help"

[still moat]

No...

[nova forum]

Everything falls under meta

[sly geyser]

bruh the name is already fitting

[azure barn]

fck it I actually give up with you keep hating DMC people ig

[river nymph]

same

[sly geyser]

worrgil in shambles

[river nymph]

im worgiling it

[upbeat orchid]

Thank you very much!!

[still moat]

U'll understand the more u interact with them on daily basis

This is just the tip of the iceberg

[azure barn]

nah dude

you just want an excuse cuz it's the easy way out

[sly geyser]

nah

[still moat]

Easy way out of what

[sly geyser]

u guys should main this channel more often

[still moat]

Not dealing with dmc tourist ?

[azure barn]

actually treating people well as the default?

[still moat]

Wait so u are telling me if u talk about lore in this channel then I point out the #🎲・glb-lore channel I'm being an ass ?

[sly geyser]

basically yea

that's what he says

[still moat]

That's crazy

[sly geyser]

ikr

[nova forum]

I need guide vid for ss3 pianis on phys and glac

Pls send

[sly geyser]

I bet u asked this question already

[still moat]

The only pianis guide I know is from treepy's

I stopped played on lilith patch in cn so I have no knowledge of the character after her

[azure barn]

it's not specifically that, it's the attitude of "get these people out of my face" that you only present towards people who like DMC in this chat

[sly geyser]

yeah go watch treepy's vid

[feral pollen]

just check empress channel ez ss3 rots

[sly geyser]

bro said that ?

[azure barn]

IT'S NOT A SPECIFIC SITUATION

[sly geyser]

nah bro we're in specific terms here

[nova forum]

And still hasn't been answered

[azure barn]

I'm just saying the attitude towards dealing with stuff like this is just unfair

[sly geyser]

life is unfair babe

[azure barn]

oh shut the fck up bro

that is the most unvalid excuse ever

[sly geyser]

stop making people say what they didn't say

[nova forum]

Nice drama 🍿

[still moat]

Well if I was a lore enjoyer and I haven't caught up with the new chapter story then found out u were talking about it and spoiling it for me here then yes I want u to get out of my face

But besides the point, all I said was just to move them to #📨・general-help it starts to escalate when u two are trying to defend this

[frank kindle]

yea, most cringe is posting lore in here

[raw swift]

Wasn't the channel split for dmc

[frank kindle]

like what is the point of that

[sly geyser]

looks like it's not working lol

and some are still defending dmc tourists

[frank kindle]

monke stronk together

[raw swift]

Real lore ||Nanami goes to an alternate timeline where the Gray Ravens and Cerberus combined to creat the ultimate basketball theam The Cerberavens, they go to dominate the NBA and happy ending||

[frank kindle]

at least u spoiler it

[raw swift]

Read trust

[sly geyser]

nice fanfiction

[outer lintel]

any wanshi solo rotation guides and builds?

[raw swift]

Real life footage

[sly geyser]

u need to submit it

[raw swift]

It's canon there's proof

[frank kindle]

people come in here, post ss of some point in story they are at, no spoiler tag, nothing

[raw swift]

Lucia is a baller

[sly geyser]

the build still lingston chen

[raw swift]

Linganguliguliguli

[sly geyser]

for rotation check setsu channel

[outer lintel]

ig rotation also stays the same except when I'm out of bullets and reload with dash+red?

[outer lintel]

okay thanks

[frank kindle]

lucia also ||got new weapon after she burnt fish for shika to the crisp ||

[raw swift]

Cooked

[sly geyser]

I want some

[raw swift]

Charcoal

[frank kindle]

https://tenor.com/view/spy-x-family-yuri-eat-bad-food-disgusting-meal-pretend-to-like-the-cooking-gif-5506819748849075013

[raw swift]

This is the true plot of spyxfamily

[worthy token]

is Scire very needed for nanami team? or can it just manage with nanami and feral plus maybe 1 more qte bot?

[sly geyser]

scire is dark bro

[worthy token]

oops I hallucinated

[sly geyser]

so no she's not needed

[gilded flint]

does echo get any benefit in glaciation by being ss3?

[worthy token]

alright so I guess my real question is, does nanami team really need any 3rd member other than feral for use besides being qte bot?

[sly geyser]

u can use another tank or... cw

[gilded flint]

3rd member is also going to be a qte bot if it isnt SSS cw

[worthy token]

got it thanks
I also see now that CN still uses scire still for dark team...

[still moat]

scire live forever

[worthy token]

let my girl retire

I don't own scire yet, but since I have no dark team at all besides lilith, I suppose its better to get Echo shards from the manual shard choice pack? (the main options I see are scire, cw, and echo) but I was told previously its probably not worth building cw from scratch

[sly geyser]

wait celica's down ?

someone else can try ?

[worthy token]

works for me in #📨・bot-info

[gilded flint]

Works for me

[still moat]

the BP shards ? sure, saves a bit of voucher

[sly geyser]

looks like Celica doesn't like me

or

[worthy token]

yeah ok, thanks!
echo it is

[sly geyser]

yeah looks like it's the command I tried

@gilded flint try the /leap command

[gilded flint]

doesnt work

[vale raft]

Karenina: Scire

Skill - Leap

Mass-Energy Conversion

Each set of 3-Ping Signal Orbs consumed while charging [Leap Attack] increases the Extra DMG Bonus of this Leap Attack by 8%.

Level 9: While charging [Leap Attack], it will pull in nearby targets and trigger Matrix if it is available.

Level 18: Each set of 3-Ping Signal Orbs consumed while charging [Leap Attack] increases the Extra DMG Bonus of the next [Signature Move - Stardust Horizon] by 10%.

New effect of [Passive - Banishing Sunglow Lv.2] added: The Chain Fusion applied by Scire reduces the target's Dark Resistance by a further 10%.

[gilded flint]

I used echo leap

[sly geyser]

yeah me too

[gilded flint]

its prolly because echo leap is new

[sly geyser]

try echo leap@worthy token

[worthy token]

I see -- is it worth getting her leap? I am building echo right now

[vale raft]

Vera: Garnet

Skill - Leap

Thunderous Lunge

Pinging before the Red/Yellow 3-Ping Skill ends to attach a lightning bolt to the last Red/Yellow Orb hit. Pinging during a Blue 3-Ping to cast [Spear Lunge] immediately with an extra lightning bolt. The lightning bolt deals 300%/600%/900% Lightning DMG based on the number of orbs pinged.

Level 9: Gains 1 stack of Lightning Capacity upon a 3-Ping during a 3-Ping Skill, stacking up to 2 times. When [Spear Lunge] is triggered, all Lightning Capacity stacks are consumed, granting the same number of stacks of [Electric Charge].

Level 18: Each stack of Lightning Capacity consumed will restore 2 random Signal Orbs of the same color. New Effect of [Passive - Eternal Battlefield] added: Each stack of Lightning Capacity consumed will restore 16 Signature Energy.

[sly geyser]

of

course

[worthy token]

sorry I meant of Echo

and yeah the echo leap command does not work, likely because its not entered yet

[gilded flint]

her leap is about glaciation, do you have new selena and ice tank wanshi

[worthy token]

I do - SS3 selena and SS3 wanshi, both sigs

[gilded flint]

holy balls

yea then go for it

[worthy token]

im a returnee + monthly + hoarded BC from ages ago so i was kinda just swimming in resources for a bit (im broke now)

[sly geyser]

time to swipe again

[worthy token]

so thats why im being careful about my resources spend now

like I didnt have any PPC cleared so I was able to do the backlog of PPC achievements to buy out tons of shards

[short surge]

ss3 lucia and lilith with sigless nanami(SS0) plasma rotation

[chilly trail]

https://youtu.be/UEbWmy5u6Ts?si=pZpgNbg4h4VmcjNi

Rightless nanami

[short surge]

man fk whoever decided to change nanami voicelines

[worthy token]

I heard its being reverted? Can't verify though. general chat told me that

[upbeat orchid]

I recall reading something about Vergil needing Solacetune at a certain rank, does he need her at SS3? Or was it SSS3?

[noble zinc]

SS0 is fine

[upbeat orchid]

Ah good

[short surge]

for ultima slash u need solacetune at SS3

otherwise it's fine

[upbeat orchid]

Alright, that's great since that's the level I got her to

[chilly trail]

With vergil not anymore

[noble zinc]

With Vergil you don't need binance was brick so needed

[short surge]

oh that's nice, I'll be skipping the collab patch totally

saving patch

[upbeat orchid]

Name checks out, it seems.

[short surge]

?

[azure barn]

that's when Balter is the DPS, Vergil makes the requirement revert to SS0

[upbeat orchid]

Since you said SS3 and others said not anymore lol

[still moat]

where that ss3 lucia from

[tight trellis]

In wz i keep getting this issue with the mob suddenly being so far away after every few waves, wasting lots of time. Any way to prevent this? I’m playing on “auto-lock”.

[still moat]

position urself properly to prepare for next wave

[nova forum]

legit a skill issue

[short surge]

yeah i didn't know about vergil being able to cancel out that requirement

[short surge]

thunderbolt manual

[still moat]

yeah thats brick

shouldve pulled nanami sig instead

[short surge]

damage increase

[still moat]

u get more score across all team with nanami sig instead of ss3 lucia

[upbeat orchid]

As in the 12$ microtransaction giving you shards?

[still moat]

and it only cost half

[short surge]

i haven't spent any money in the game bro, ur thinking of something else

[upbeat orchid]

Ah

[still moat]

u see the problem with ur plasma team is that no one holds 4pc heisen

[short surge]

oh that's wanted?

[still moat]

ur lucia will lose a lot of damage

and so does ur nanami since she doesnt have sig by default

[gilded flint]

If your nanami has no sig for plasma, run 4 herschell and 2 eins

[short surge]

hmmmm i can still make promotion for Legend, most probably

[still moat]

4pc elemental memories is a must on every team now

[short surge]

okay thanks

anything i need to change for lucia and lilith?

[versed oxide]

Send me the chart which has teams and with their corresponding elements affix
I couldn't find it

[gilded flint]

all the other builds for plasma can be found in /build for the respective character

[chilly trail]

This not update??

[nova forum]

yet

[azure barn]

bot in general isn't updated yet from what I can tell

[gilded flint]

is the highest scoring team on global still plasma?

[chilly trail]

Burn

[azure barn]

it's Burn now (20m)

[chilly trail]

[gilded flint]

made a typo but gah dam

[nova forum]

which ult is the weak one on pianis?

[versed oxide]

How namami does plasma?

Isn't she ignition only?

[azure barn]

the one where she becomes a conductor

[chilly trail]

Same as lightning

[still moat]

plasma is the highest scoring for now on global yes, should be tied to glacio

[versed oxide]

Interesting

[azure barn]

Lightning Shred can also affect Ion DMG

[obtuse tinsel]

I still don’t understand how to play SSS Selena

So many different rotations in different guides Somone help me

[still moat]

though to be fair global barely cracked 16m plasma

or close to

[versed oxide]

Did vergil replace stigmata for ulitma slash

Or he's just meh

[azure barn]

yeah

Vergil is way stronger than her for Ultima Slash

[gilded flint]

https://youtu.be/n8zY7TkTd98?si=KJ7INKz3kDXk7CpL
I saw this vid so it might help you start learning

[obtuse tinsel]

Ty cutie I’ll check this one out

[gilded flint]

[versed oxide]

Should I pick watanabe epti or qu shukura
The issue is watanabe is good but I don't have a fire dps
Idk dante could compensate as one in long term until i get one or at most as a cope

But i think with lucid dreamer and good invest qu shukura can do maybe okay?

[ripe stag]

Check this
https://youtu.be/D_Cgpc7dbjs?si=d2jLTh_DBCGvi22G

You can trust this dude when it comes to high invest units

[versed oxide]

Selena glac is broken

[obtuse tinsel]

Thanks cutie, here have a kiss

[ripe stag]

You'll have fire dps when you get Vera Geiravor

[ripe stag]

?

Damage wise? Yea

[versed oxide]

Yea, I was doing well enough with 5 star weapon and 6k bp

[ripe stag]

I think it's unless you have like SS0 Ion and SS0 Selena and Alisa with SSS0 Wanshi

Right ?

[versed oxide]

Isn't vera a beautiful amlifier?

[still moat]

we dont know

we dont have glacio wz yet but from the cn scoring they are close at equal invest

[short surge]

Shukra is trash without her sig right?

[still moat]

it could be different as no one in global have hit 18m plasma yet

[versed oxide]

Yes

[ripe stag]

You wanna use them as reso or reso THEM?

[obsidian dune]

why does bro have so many uniframe sigs

[short surge]

how many shards does it take to go from SS0 ---> SSS0

[ripe stag]

Keep Managram and you can use the others
Start with the Uniframe sigs, those are worthless

[ripe stag]

90

[gilded flint]

@ripe stag I found this rot from Klaige pianissimo vid for SSr1

swap
3 ping
Hold BA
Matrix ping
Ult1 (QTE)
3 concert
Hold dodge
Hold Basic
Blue Orb
Ult2 (QTE)

2x 3ping
Ult1
2concert
Hold dodge
ult2
swap

This rot just takes a bit longer than others right

[ripe stag]

Is that Physical

Cuz I'm concerned about 1 major thing here

[gilded flint]

yea, echo and hanying were in the team

[ripe stag]

Yea that's bad

You never touch blue orb at below SSS0 rank

[versed oxide]

When is the anniversy

I was trying to get weapons, should i get selena first or ishmael?
Since nana knight/lucid weapon only buffs their damage

[gilded flint]

creator said its the best SS pianissimo rot and claimed to do a lot of research; its prolly better for late wave phys wz tho

Do you want to look at the vid and come to your own conclusion?

[noble zinc]

[ripe stag]

Still no
Last wave you wanna just quickly do Flower ult and leave

[ripe stag]

This looks like a prelude to Malding the lowest score

[ripe stag]

https://youtu.be/ZnDTGUaWuKQ

Here take this

[gilded flint]

wow

[ripe stag]

Made after being given advice from dalaos

[fading kestrel]

self promotion outside of the self promotion channel smh
blow this mod up

[ripe stag]

I made this solely cuz of the amount of wrong rots in the market

Like dude
Blue orb below SSS0 ? Yea no, thanks

[gilded flint]

Is it just double concert ult for SS (Ill look at the vid a bit later)

[fading kestrel]

wasnt b-orb behind ss3? or was that flower

[ripe stag]

Blue orb won't even possibly deal damage below that

[ripe stag]

Flower ult is SS3

Blue orb is SSS0

[fading kestrel]

ty

[ripe stag]

Yea

The reason why you don't Flower ult at SS0 is cuz it takes a long time to get Flower ult at SS0

[gilded flint]

Ngl, I was hyped for selena, but the way her kit was designed made me so sad

[ripe stag]

SS0 flower ult rot

• swap in
• 3p > hold ba
• 3p > ult
• hold dodge
• hold ba
• 6 white
• hold dodge
• flower ult

SS3 flower ult rot

• swap in
• 3p > hold ba
• 3p > ult
• 6 white
• hold dodge
• flower ult

[gilded flint]

Time to add to my notes

[obsidian dune]

wait that for wz rot?

[warped axle]

wid for Hanying if I don't have her sig, although I have piano sig + dlt?

assuming SS0

[gilded flint]

all the cool stuff thats part of her kit is locked behind her SS3 and SSS; fun for me is being able to do everything while being optimal

[ripe stag]

Just rotate Hanying as you did while using Balter

[ripe stag]

You use flower in Glacio even at SS0

[gilded flint]

And thats for only 1 rot

[warped axle]

glacio is locked behind 1 rot anyways

[gilded flint]

I havent played her in wz and ppc so my feelings are subject to change

I just had to let a lil doomer out

[obtuse coral]

Is jetavie daybreak good?

[gilded flint]

Not better than lamia

good unit but isnt in meta dark team

[ripe stag]

If you don't have Lamia rn
Just Lilith solo or Lilith Zaza rn

[muted zenith]

sooo, after 2 consecutive ion wz's and 127 retries on each

i kinda of forgot how to play fire with lucia

can someone teach me her rot again?

ss3 one specifically

[ripe stag]

Same

[gilded flint]

I heard it was better to do 1 slash 1 eclipse on ss3 because amp buff runs out, but I gotta go to the message again

[muted zenith]

i really need to make an app that contains rotations for each character

[gilded flint]

just use windows 11 notes

[muted zenith]

i mean what is her rotation for ss3

[gilded flint]

Ill give you the one I remember the best and Im to lazy to list all the other rots I used

SS3 pyro r1 2s1e

swap -> basic -> hold ult
2x red -> basic -> hold ult
Hold Ult
Hold basic -> basic
tap ult -> end with yellow bar at handle
2x red -> hold ult -> 1x red
basic -> hold basic
Hold Ult

I think this rot is now used for later waves tho

[muted zenith]

wait whats the 2 hold ults one after another?

also no eclipse ult after yellow bar at handle?

i swear in 2 years we gonna be stating rotations like
2x3 ping > hold basic > 3 red or yellow > hold basic > blue cancel > 3 red on small enemies/yellow on large > spam sig slowly for juggle > ult > 3x3 > hold basic and dodge in for bosses, right for mobs > spam red > hold basic and dodge in > spam sig until they hit the ground > hold ult > repeat

[gilded flint]

Its the same as the rot I listed but after you do the first eclipse, you follow the same steps but tap ult at the end instead of hold ult

but this rot has 1 slash at the beginning so I dont know the rot that has you do just 2 eclipse

[gilded flint]

youre not gonna have enough yellow bar to hold basic at the end for energy

if you dont eclipse at that point

[muted zenith]

so the total amount of ults we do in this is

first hold ult where she gets into her enhanced mode

2nd slash ult
third eclipse ult
4th hold ult for enhanced mode
5th slash ult again

[gilded flint]

yea

SPARE MY FINGERS PLEASE

Gotta improve my typing skills now

[worthy token]

do we know if new characters are being added soon to voucher shop? aka can I work on getting lilith to SSS

[feral pollen]

no new leaps as of bianca patch

[worthy token]

thank you

[feral pollen]

speaking of bianca there's actually very good chance we might get her next patch

[worthy token]

oh like b stigmata leap?

[nova forum]

wadapak

[noble zinc]

[worthy token]

interesting
but even leaped, she probably wouldnt replace echo or solacetune on selena's team right? since she'd still be attacker role

[feral pollen]

bruh we're not talking about stigmata now

[lilac crescent]

free new bianca?

[nova forum]

cn get 50 days but gobla only get 42

smh the discrepancy

[warped axle]

MY ACC IS SAVED 🌹 ❤️‍🩹

[feral pollen]

why's that

[ripe stag]

If it's DMC + Bianca
I'll be hella Happy

[wide wedge]

How good is nanami SSS and does it change her playstyle?

[feral pollen]

massive dmg increase and -3s on swap cd

[warped axle]

selena 3 rot viable? idk I could do it somehow

1 rot I just tap white orb 4 times, then the proceeding 2 I don't click white orb

[valid reef]

So bianca + dmc patch is the last integrated patch?

[wide wedge]

It's still the same rotation right?

[warped axle]

I do 2 rot after downtime is over and repeat. Thoughts? should I just keep doing standard 2 rot or this one in the vid?

[muted zenith]

i m kinda wishing we have a month gap between patches

so we can still have our clairvoyance

[wise lion]

Nanami SSS gets full weapon gauge if you do her ult once

[cold walrus]

huge dmg boost and swap cd reduction. definitely worth, if you can afford it

[stray siren]

Are we winning son?

[shy jackal]

Same

That's literally best-case scenario

[river nymph]

LFG

is that bianca selfcest?

[wintry raft]

Thank god

Selena skin will be home soon

[wide wedge]

I did it, just wanted to see if I play her differently

[rich ravine]

the last boss of this clash was easy lol

[wide wedge]

So less red orb usage?

[cold walrus]

if you're swapping, you need to ping orbs only once unless you're doing 300 points combo for the first ult

[obsidian dune]

sss nanami is very much better in switch gameplay

youll notice the difference alot

like in plasma

[waxen vine]

that sounds complicated

[muted zenith]

i have a question

i got SSS8 Alpha after using the BP shards

should i just buy her fully from voucher shop at this point?

[river nymph]

um

[waxen vine]

based and yeah i think would be more better than pulling from some banner

[obsidian dune]

nah

unless u already got everything from voucher shop

[wide wedge]

Imma need to look up the swapping then, I use her more since alpha doesn't hit hard compared to her

[obsidian dune]

its not that deep

[cold walrus]

don't use alpha if she isn't sss

[obsidian dune]

after first ult u immediately get sword gauge filled

you can then enter axe form immediately again

[wide wedge]

She's SSS
Ah okay second rotation is easier

[obsidian dune]

saves time

we mention swapping so she takes advantage of that as much as possible

[wide wedge]

I get that
But her lightning teammates don't do as much damage as her
I don't get the swapping yet

[ornate oasis]

Does vera still need support mems despite having good team buff at base?

[river nymph]

yes

vera’s sig mem is used only if you solo fire team with her

[ornate oasis]

Ahh alr is she someone who needs sig weap or not really since she only needs 1 rot

[river nymph]

not really, it only increases dmg and she doesnt need dlt

but sigs are always useful cuz of harmo

[ornate oasis]

Oh yeah damn harmo does help quite a good amount

[frank kindle]

[gilded flint]

How big of a gap in score is there when using ish instead of ob for lamia in ppc?

[shy jackal]

Not to mention amp reso

[shy jackal]

ob as in oblivion?

[gilded flint]

Yea

[frank kindle]

lamia gets obliterated by ish

[gilded flint]

Ob say hello to 4 dv 2 eins 2 gloria

[wise lion]

Yep so you'll save up your blue , red orbs or can save them for the next rotation , full weapon gauge at 0 : 14

Also 3 second faster swap , more dmg
Better score for wz
Faster kills ppc

[gilded flint]

Actually 2 Gloria 4 heisen 2 eins would be better right

[ornate oasis]

Just saw someone say selena flower ult is not recommended at warzone?

[gilded flint]

Yea, takes a lot of time

[ornate oasis]

Only at ppc

[frank kindle]

ye and amp with dv guin

[ornate oasis]

Well tbh I hate triggering the flower ult so good lord it isnt needed for warzone

[shy jackal]

Ish carries shred memo herself

[frank kindle]

altho for speedkills on ish u can use cottie + ele set

[worthy token]

I have a question about startrail, so in her sword form's bottom bar, sometimes these two tiny stars light up on the right side of the sword, what does it mean and is it important?

[gilded flint]

For all three difficulties on lamia right

[shy jackal]

Flower ult is too slow at ss0

ss3 iirc can do flower ult

[shy jackal]

Yeah

[worthy token]

Ive asked this before and we know its called Crystal field but no one was able to explain if its needed

[shy jackal]

Sothoth just gives her shred field and more collapse points last I checked

[gilded flint]

The fastest rot to ult 2 doesn't need sig mems?

Oops

[shy jackal]

Nah

Sothoth gives her collapse points on orb ping and shred field/healing field, yeah

It only boosts ult damage if you do the hold dodge axe kick

Which is too slow for ppc

[upbeat orchid]

When does Vera: Geiravor's banner begin?

[wise lion]

I hardly ever use her basic sword form the dmg is so bad 😂
Just use red / blue > yellow ping > axe form = 💀

[upbeat orchid]

Ah there's a pinned message

[worthy token]

🫡 if its good enough for you then its fine by me and ill copy it

[visual topaz]

what's 3S Ice score in Legend

[gilded flint]

This is the fastest rot to ish ult 2?

Blue ult 1 red yellow red red ult2

[upbeat orchid]

Every patch gives enough BC to get the debuting characters, but in the DMC patch, Dante is free, does that mean there's enough BC to guarantee Vergil, and not an extra Dante?

[visual topaz]

yeah

depending of cases it could even be start switch > ult 1 > ryr > dodge until ult 2

[gilded flint]

Can you please list a case so I have an idea?

Or is it just late wave wz stuff

[visual topaz]

late wave wz wtf

fast ult is PPC ONLY

cuz you're trading off so much dmg for timer score

[gilded flint]

[visual topaz]

everything is situational

if the boss can be killed with ult 2 only you'll be doing the fastest ult possible

if it survives and that you could fit another ult 1 + kick then you gotta add hold dodge before ult 1 in the inputs

[gilded flint]

Ok i got you

[visual topaz]

that's rly case by case

7s Madorea is the latter

7s dark shark is the former

[gilded flint]

It's prolly better to use ish attempts on dark shark right

Everything can get rid of lamia fast

[visual topaz]

i don't think so?

this week theorical max score is 777 everywhere

you're gonna fit ishmael on kills where there is no substitute 7s

[gilded flint]

Is 777 speaking of all three difficulties for one boss?

[visual topaz]

yeah

7s knight chaos hell shark mado lamia

[wide wedge]

Will you have enough energy for the second ult like this?

[visual topaz]

Marko aside idk if there are people bald and whale enough to get 7s lamia without ish

[river nymph]

[visual topaz]

i assume chaos fish and mado can be killed wih selena blue

[wise lion]

It refresh everytime you tag her in , so once only

[visual topaz]

leaving a joker ishmael attempt outside hell shark and mado

[gilded flint]

I completely forgot about pianissimo

[river nymph]

https://youtu.be/xiJfe5V01fI?si=J1N_oPxbhB_85ar1

[gilded flint]

Gah dam

[visual topaz]

is that Acaxi channel

what invest is that

43?

[river nymph]

not sure tbh

acaxi sent it

[visual topaz]

I don't have time to mald this week

I have 443 Void, 443 old and new Phys

even optimally i'll prolly be bricked 877 on madorea knight

because no S+ shukra

[opaque ridge]

K do me 777 and make me proud

https://tenor.com/view/wuwa-carlotta-cheecks-squeeze-squishy-gif-2882428430083543852

[visual topaz]

https://tenor.com/view/out-disappear-bye-vanished-gif-4932063

[wide wedge]

Aight
I'll try it out
Thanks for the help

[wise lion]

It only works , since my star trail is at SSS

[gilded flint]

Do you guys think ssr1 pianissimo would take longer than 12s to clear hell lamia?

[wide wedge]

So switch in
Do one rotation
Switch out
Repeat

[wise lion]

Yep , that's how it works at SSS
Maybe you might be able to throw out 2 ults in 1 rotation for lightning map . I don't remember 🤔

[hasty badge]

@steady otter I guess my run this week is bricked then /s

[wide wedge]

You have ult up when you switch in on that map?

[rocky wedge]

exactly so dont entertain it by being the same x)

[normal sierra]

@cold walrus what did you use for 7s chaos mado?

[rocky wedge]

i will just block people if they are being stupid, then its like they dont even exist anymore - and at same time I dont make myself a fool by letting such person drive me to crash out point xd

[cold walrus]

ish. what else could i use?

[normal sierra]

what did you use on fish then? o.o

[cold walrus]

wdym what did i use? 4 bathlon 4 cottie if you're talking about memories

[normal sierra]

no, about lamia boss lul

[cold walrus]

oh

i used ish for hell and chaos

shukra for knight

[wise lion]

No , just tagged her in did the rotation
This one is from tagging her back in a second time

[normal sierra]

that leaves us with hell sharky then, what you used there?

[cold walrus]

phys

[normal sierra]

8s? is that some sss whel midlena or something?

[cold walrus]

got 9s, but 8s is doable with r3

yeah, sss selena

i thought r2 would be enough for 8s hell shark. unfortunately, it was wrong

[normal sierra]

thought so
ok, then I did maximize me score
hate weeks like these, need more than 2 braincells to plan my AP >.>

[frank kindle]

wantap and move on

[normal sierra]

thanks for answering my interrogation

[normal sierra]

das is wz strat

[cold walrus]

7s knight mado is super tight. i personally don't recommend trying it, it is harder than 7s lamia imo

if your ish is ss3

if sss then do whatever, she probably has enough dmg

[normal sierra]

nahh, I needed ish for hell sharkie, so no AP left for mado

[cold walrus]

good luck

[normal sierra]

[cold walrus]

rip

[valid reef]

Phys team is now my favorite team to play

Omg its so fun

[rocky wedge]

always has been

[wide wedge]

Ah okay
I'll try it out then

[valid reef]

Also how good is the new bianca currently? (If we can talk about it)

[golden inlet]

Well tat was easy

[deft apex]

she's not out yet, but def good like every new s rank lol

[valid reef]

Alrighty

[faint monolith]

[unborn pier]

She is beatifull

[candid spoke]

Is plasma beam the best scoring affix team right now or is it glaciation?

[golden inlet]

Indeed

[noble zinc]

global ion yeah

[frank kindle]

soon

[real jackal]

does selena ss3 have like, a quick rot for ppc?

or is it just swap 3p bahold 3p ult hold dodge?

[spiral merlin]

'selena' 'quick' 'ppc' are three words that shouldnt go in the same sentence

[real jackal]

that actually answers my question somewhat lol as to which teams to use for lower rank neutral bosses. sticking with void then >_>

wb for hell? ig then becomes "what's her quickest rot"

[normal sierra]

she got a very fast ppc rot
on sss and above

[spiral merlin]

how fast

[real jackal]

i am but a humble feesh

[normal sierra]

7s lamia kill capable fast
someone posted a vid of it today

[spiral merlin]

whaduhell

[cold walrus]

Wha

888 shark and fushen is doable

But how on earth 7s lamia

[normal sierra]

ohh, it's not even that far above #📨・meta-help message

[spiral merlin]

s+ deadge

i wouldnt even call that a ppc rot

[cold walrus]

He doesn't use blue orb

[normal sierra]

yea
the rota is available for sss already, but it won't kill much, I guess

[cold walrus]

And lamia is retired

[feral pollen]

have you considered upgrading

[spiral merlin]

no lol

[cold walrus]

I like your pfp

[unborn pier]

Yeah

[unborn pier]

how?? lamia retired like that?

[frank kindle]

she retired this patch

[spiral merlin]

youll have to ask the people who know ppc more than me
quickest rot always changes between boss and stage and i dont care enough to play it competitively

[unborn pier]

but... I still have it in the Game

[frank kindle]

because we are still on week before patch

[spiral merlin]

because she just so happened to be in rotation before the patch

[unborn pier]

You mean gacha, right? It won't be possible to get it?

[river nymph]

https://youtu.be/xiJfe5V01fI?si=Nmgm5f7XM2Wet3Zp

[frank kindle]

ppc boss

[spiral merlin]

yes it was linked earlier

this is cheating

[river nymph]

[unborn pier]

What?

[river nymph]

might have to link it a 3rd time

https://youtu.be/ja8emgBHOKA?si=3npkWEgMn4poGlQD

[spiral merlin]

all well and good when that kills but 99% of people wont be able to do this i imagine

and if that doesnt kill then

[river nymph]

[feral pollen]

tf is this emoji

[golden inlet]

Nope overall getting relaced with a new bianca after the dmc collab

[frank kindle]

ppc lamia getting replaced with bianca?

[dense tiger]

who would u guys ss3

with the free selector?

Qu or lamia