📨・meta-help

[shy jackal]

since 3 minutes is definitely not enough

[orchid owl]

if LD has higher invest it can feel like that
that and if you don't have her sig + DLT

[shy jackal]

imagine having good luck smh

[pallid cypress]

how well does selena does with the 40% attack buff from her CUB?

[rustic belfry]

on a scale of 1-10 how important is selena ss3 :3

[stoic niche]

Should i use her weapon for that?

[vale raft]

SS3 Priority List of Gacha-Only Units

1. Lucia: Pyroath
2. Selena: Pianissimo
3. Ishmael: Parhelion
4. Nanami: Startrail
5. Hanying: Solacetune
6. Vera: Geivaror

[real jackal]

@pallid cypress

[slate gull]

outdated

[ashen parcel]

Like Man im just gettign dissapointed with my pulls because i started with luna-O and C-Weave and now i'm expecting similer level of performance and all these units are so high investment and highkey trash even with their sig weapon like how long am i supposed to wait till i see similar dmg and lvls of fun

[orchid owl]

depends, do you have hanying?

[median spade]

huge

[orchid owl]

0

or maybe 2 at most

it's just a luxury really

[shy jackal]

^

[stoic niche]

Yes with sig

[orchid owl]

SS0 R1 is the thing you want to go for

[shy jackal]

any ss3 is a pretty big luxury

[rustic belfry]

aight

[orchid owl]

great then you can trash rosetta's weapon if you want, keep in mind that some optimal fu shen runs are with rosetta + hanying while rosetta still has her sig, but I honestly think it's not worth keeping her sig just for that

especially since your rosetta is only S

[vale raft]

This character does not exist. Please try again.
You may be searching for a character with multiple frames as well.

Selena: Pianissimo <:s_rank:1287636749052412026><:attacker:1285839106240417803><:physical_element:1290613978057146379><:glaciation:1288090076001210398>

Main DPS Set

Usage

Main DPS

Game Modes

High Difficulty, Pain Cage, Warzone, Clash Reflection, Norman

Description

Recommended for all ranks
General DPS set

Memories

4x Burana
2x Cottie

Memory Resonances

Top Slot : 6x Any ATK+15 Variant
Bottom Slot: 6x Core Passive

Harmony Recommendation

Cottie

[real jackal]

damn, even post selena?

[shy jackal]

isn't that for hanying mdps which is pretty slow?

surely selena is faster, unless she also slow asf too

[pallid cypress]

does hanying becomes QTE bot?

[median spade]

no

[pallid cypress]

regarding hanying being QTE bot?

[median spade]

she is still very valuable to the team

[pallid cypress]

ok

[shy jackal]

hanying becomes the sub-dps

[pallid cypress]

so main DPS set for selena?

her memory set and cottie?

[shy jackal]

taking over when selena has finished her rotations

[orchid owl]

oh right we got selena now

[median spade]

correct

[orchid owl]

I'm braindead

[shy jackal]

you forgor

[acoustic wigeon]

Damn I gotta go and switch the resonance

[real jackal]

https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1sp9nXp7kbVppE2N_vl5x5A65yRwp7193CHS61SWbSe8/edit?gid=0#gid=0

setsu doc still good, right?

[naive apex]

Are Klenova and Hervor the only new affix-specific memories, or am I missing something?

Yo wtf, just noticed Cottie was renamed

[median spade]

i don't think TS has a set but ion does

[slate gull]

hervor is vera's sig memories

[median spade]

^

[still moat]

aww

[unreal fjord]

Bhop meta in prop hunt

[vague nebula]

[still moat]

if i have SS cub + r2 it might kill

[shy jackal]

more like umbrella/balloon on umbrella meta

[naive apex]

2p still has darkflow bonus, which is probably used in harmo if darkflow becomes real

[median spade]

darkflow

[shy jackal]

darkflow

still hate how the name was changed from umbrasurge

[orchid owl]

[median spade]

that will surely get changed back

[naive apex]

So the filter option in the shop still says "Cottie", but the actual memory says Kuriko in the shop

[orchid owl]

https://tenor.com/view/dmc-devil-may-cry-dante-what-the-hell-is-this-wtf-gif-18707536

[real jackal]

still says cottie on some menus. typical kuro

[shy jackal]

it even says cottie on the harmo memory selection screen

[orchid owl]

what's wrong with cottie

don't tell me it's a relative of the austrian painter

[shy jackal]

they renamed it to match with cn pinyin

[slate gull]

not adolf enough

[orchid owl]

[desert sierra]

piano and her weapon in 20 pulls...worth it to keep going for sss or save for upcoming units?

[naive apex]

I'm just wondering if any characters got new memory builds for effect dps, because I know Lucia and Selena at least swap their harmo from Cottie to effect damage thing

[shy jackal]

since in cn the memory isn't actually called adolphe

[naive apex]

DMC is only a bit over month away

[desert sierra]

there's no limited in between piano and dmc?

[shy jackal]

no

[rustic belfry]

pianissimo mem set is just 4 cottie 4 burana for phys and 2 cottie 4 burana 2 klenova for glaciation? thats it?

[shy jackal]

current triple patch straight into dmc

[desert sierra]

alright boys, im going all in.

[naive apex]

There's a second S-rank this patch. (In 1 week). Then it's straight into DMC

[pallid cypress]

is this excel good?

[slate gull]

for now we only have those two. nothing for TS

[stoic niche]

Is cottie goes bottom?

[pallid cypress]

im gonna start giving resos

[shy jackal]

yes

[desert sierra]

im one of the few that doesn't like DMC. so, even if i am gimped , i won't pull on those banners.

[pallid cypress]

and i went darwin for harmony

[naive apex]

Wonder how cracked the glaciation is gonna be. Wanshi at SSS has been getting insane scores for ice for a while.

[slate gull]

you are one of the few many

we also dont like dmc

[orchid owl]

damn

[pallid cypress]

i should finish getting wanshi to SS3

[rustic belfry]

patton or cottie

[naive apex]

yes

[slate gull]

dont follow this

[median spade]

in-game builds

[rustic belfry]

bet cottie it is

[rustic belfry]

https://tenor.com/view/dented-pepe-dentge-meme-hit-gif-15873918808390144538

[shy jackal]

welllllll technically the in-game build is right

but for ppc only

[naive apex]

Isn't it better if you can oneshot things? Which is not a lot of content.

[shy jackal]

main build is for consistent damage and rotations

[slate gull]

except that warzone keeps spawning enemies for 2 minutes

[shy jackal]

thus the cottie

[desert sierra]

is there a pin yet on piano's recommended build/teams/rotation?

[naive apex]

I think you can't even double ult decently with Patton? So it's half rotation.

[shy jackal]

ppc is only like 1-2 rotations max thus no need for consistency, can trade it for higher damage

[naive apex]

Well, I prefer lacquered keys and a dark satin bench

[shy jackal]

and tbh even 2 rotations is really pushing it in ppc, you ideally want to kill in one rotation only

[orchid owl]

piano

[slate gull]

you havent seen the weirder nickname

[orchid owl]

send

[naive apex]

Awaken orb color for selena?

[slate gull]

i might get banned for it. not worth it

[orchid owl]

DM

[gilded flint]

Is the goal of a rotation in pgr to do the highest amount of dmg in the fastest time while getting to ult2? I might want to try figuring it out if there isn't an optimized rot yet

[orchid owl]

goal of a rotation is doing the highest amount of dmg in the fastest time

nothing else

well, unless we put war zone in the equation

[gilded flint]

Also how does ss3 change ish rot

[orchid owl]

then it becomes much more complex

you need to divide the damage across waves, making sure you don't overkill a wave

[gilded flint]

Adapting to the situation in wz

[orchid owl]

she can do 3 ults instead of 2? I think

[rustic belfry]

which mem for selena sig harmo?

[gilded flint]

3 ults and 4 ults for ss

[orchid owl]

use /build in #📨・bot-info next time
4 cottie/patton, depends on your build

[solid niche]

Selena and her sig worth pulling even before DMC? I've got 20k black card and 8k orange tickets. Chapter 13 of story haven't done much lol

[tall merlin]

Does Hanying stick with core passive reso or change to class skill for reso with SS0 Piano?

[orchid owl]

is this team correct

[orchid owl]

selena for sure
sig can wait

sig is permanent

[slate gull]

good question. pianissimo is your main damage dealer now, so use class skill for hanying for physical content

[pallid cypress]

i really love PGR compared to other games because you dont need to prefarm everything so aggresively

you get the character, level them up, buy whatever memory you need from the shop and done

[orchid owl]

yeah you just farm to get up to speed with everyone else and then it's abundant amount of materials

that's why I quit zzz

no auto clear after a whole year

[pallid cypress]

wouldnt it be 6 months?

[tall merlin]

Alright thanks

[pallid cypress]

because i swear the game came out in december last year

[orchid owl]

it's the 1st anniversary of zzz

it came out in summer of last year

that's 2024 july 4th

[solid niche]

So what for her weapon? Just 5* is fine?

[pallid cypress]

well nevermind

[orchid owl]

if you want to save, yeah for now

[pallid cypress]

@orchid owl at least arknights endfield has the base

so ascension and skill materials should be taken care off withouth grinding

[slate gull]

arknights ricefield?

[solid niche]

But is she still fine with 5* is what I just want to be sure of. If she isn't I'll just have to grind more story to get more Bc lol

And then try to get her weap and save the rest for DMC

[orchid owl]

she gets -9 orbs without sig and less damage

[last blade]

U can also do other modes and use glow tickets for selena

[orchid owl]

you'll be fine without her sig for now, you can cope with hanying or something if you want to save for dmc

[last blade]

does Selena need dlt or R1?

[pallid cypress]

what orb selena wants for infinitas?

[orchid owl]

yea DLT

[orchid owl]

probably doesn't matter if I had to guess

[gilded flint]

Worst part is hypertune mats

[pallid cypress]

well mu selena is fully built

[bitter plank]

Is there a rot for ss0 selena that uses flower ult idc if it becomes ineffective or long I just wanna see her flower ult bruh💔💔

[pallid cypress]

honestly i have way too many comission coins and guild currency that its a non issue lol

[solid niche]

lmao i don't even have hanying i'm cooked XD

https://huaxu.app/eu/players/10420638/characters

[pallid cypress]

if i need i just quick buy

[gilded flint]

I think the flower ult is used for glaciation wz or exppc

[median spade]

selena pp

[gilded flint]

Also bad to ask here, we are all meta slaves here

[bitter plank]

Fair😭

[pallid cypress]

the meta doesnt feel THAT sweaty

@bitter plank also you got boss practice if you want to show off

[gilded flint]

There's a basic rot vid on empress channel, "pianissimo basic rotation"

[gilded flint]

5 slash in ion aware

[lean pulsar]

Do y'all have a r2 prio mind, like amp > tank > attacker or something?

[orchid owl]

attacker > tank > amp I think it is

maybe the last 2 are interchangable
but that is inaccurate, you don't do it based on class, it's based on who's dps

[frank kindle]

[solid niche]

Wait glow tickets? What's that

[last blade]

typo I meant yellow

[solid niche]

Oh lol

[median spade]

what is bro cooking

[solar kite]

whats a good team for selena

[median spade]

phys: selena, hanying, alisa
glaciation: selena, wanshi, alisa

[slate gull]

[gilded flint]

Are we not able to do 2 glaciation rots for SS pianissimo

[vale raft]

Selena: Pianissimo <:s_rank:1287636749052412026><:attacker:1285839106240417803><:physical_element:1290613978057146379><:glaciation:1288090076001210398>

Main DPS Set

Usage

Main DPS

Game Modes

High Difficulty, Pain Cage, Warzone, Clash Reflection, Norman

Description

Recommended for all ranks
General DPS set

Memories

4x Burana
2x Cottie

Memory Resonances

Top Slot : 6x Any ATK+15 Variant
Bottom Slot: 6x Core Passive

Harmony Recommendation

Cottie

Selena: Pianissimo <:s_rank:1287636749052412026><:attacker:1285839106240417803><:physical_element:1290613978057146379><:glaciation:1288090076001210398>

Main DPS Set

Usage

Main DPS

Game Modes

High Difficulty, Pain Cage, Warzone, Clash Reflection, Norman

Description

Recommended for all ranks
General DPS set

Memories

4x Burana
2x Cottie

Memory Resonances

Top Slot : 6x Any ATK+15 Variant
Bottom Slot: 6x Core Passive

Harmony Recommendation

Cottie

[solid niche]

wait do we need to have her with crit top reso?

[sand laurel]

bruh, nothing to do with these shards
karen sss3, everything sss0 except empy/garnet that are on ss0

[golden star]

@true pivot I'm unable to cram 5 ults in plasma no matter how much I mald

[median spade]

nah you can

just do better

[winter wind]

any good selena guides out there?

[stray siren]

Sss+ someone > keep spending the shards on that character > recycles the shards > Get 30 shards of any S character every 6 patches

[sand laurel]

sounds like brick

[ripe stag]

BRUUUUUUUUUH

GLACIATION IS JUST BETTER

TS IB

[summer topaz]

what about using phys instead

[ripe stag]

Glaciation hits harder than Physical

[gilded flint]

Then you gotta be faster, it is possible and I've done it before

[summer topaz]

[sand laurel]

phys and glacio invest?

[ripe stag]

TS is 22.12.1 122 111
Glacio is 232.1 132 111

[sand laurel]

so its wanshi hard carrying

I still didnt check how's alisa leap

[gilded flint]

Do you only do 1 glacio rot on Selena before swapping?

[ripe stag]

You cannot do 2 anyways

[ripe stag]

Peak

ABSOLUTELY PEAK

Didn't expect a "not so good in damage" Amp to actually become this good

[golden star]

The last ult ion wears off is it because I'm on mobile?

[hasty bluff]

okie so i got 6 star wep for bridget and 1 usb on top of that. the chars i am considering to reso are selena ,nanami, wanshi or new veera . on which chars should i use usb

[gilded flint]

No, mainly a skill issue, however bad internet may be an excuse

[frozen spindle]

Wait for budget dark team I can run jetavie lillith, and who as tank?

[shy jackal]

just run lilith with luna oblivion and your strongest tank instead

[median spade]

^

[gilded flint]

Wanshi and selena, try to get Vera dlt reso as soon as possible

[light basin]

poor jetavie

[frozen spindle]

lack of luna 😭

[hasty bluff]

so wanshi>>vera for reso?

also what should i reso them to ?

[light basin]

man look at her and tell me she isn't perfect

cooler design than s hanying

[gilded flint]

Both of them get dlt

[pallid cypress]

so now hanying wants class skill instead of core passive?

[hasty bluff]

thanks

[ripe stag]

No one's using TS anymore

[pallid cypress]

@shy jackal so hanying for resos should have class skill instead of core passive?

[light basin]

should i hypertune alisa

[median spade]

duh

[shy jackal]

[light basin]

oh i have no hypertune crystals gg

[shy jackal]

how

[pallid cypress]

im thinking on switching hanying reso from core passive to class skill

[median spade]

[frozen spindle]

if i don't have luna then is my dark team just cooked?

[pallid cypress]

is that a good call? or should i keep core passive?

[median spade]

core is still fine, she is sub dps not qte bot

[pallid cypress]

some guides say the reso should be class skill

[median spade]

you can use class to better support your selena but overall i think in places like wz core is still good

you still rot her

[pallid cypress]

maybe 2 class skill and 4 core?

[elfin dew]

for support/amplifer is 4 guin better than 2 guin+2 eins?

[pallid cypress]

wish it was like weapons where you could swap resonances after hypertune

[gilded flint]

Just do her normal stuff until Selena swap is up right?

[shy jackal]

depends, if the tank is holding eins you can do 4 guin

[muted coral]

30 pity yall think i got selena + vera?

[vale raft]

Hanying: Solacetune <:s_rank:1287636749052412026><:tank:1290614106520555571><:physical_element:1290613978057146379><:trueslash:1288090116790812712>

Main DPS Set

Usage

Main DPS

Game Modes

High Difficulty, Pain Cage, Warzone, Clash Reflection, Norman

Description

Recommended for all ranks
Main DPS Set
Harmony Set (Requires Harmony on Signature 6 Weapon)*

Memories

4x Changwuzi
2x Patton
2x Patton (Harmony)

Memory Resonances

Top Slot : 6x Any ATK+15 Variant
Bottom Slot: 6x Core Passive

[elfin dew]

if tank is holding 4pc element shred like bathlon?

[pastel ermine]

guys is selena cub worth it?

[next dock]

Pretty much every CUB from now on is worth it

[pastel ermine]

also does dmc patch carry over cub pity, weapon pity and/or character pity?

[next dock]

Every character has been a gigantic powerhouse

[ripe stag]

TS is that bad

[shy jackal]

2guin 2eins for the amp then

[ripe stag]

PHYSICAL better than Glaciation here?

[median spade]

ig ill settle

[shy jackal]

i was replying to the guy that said they had no ht mats kek

[ripe stag]

Oh

[gilded flint]

Who's tired of swapping, leveling, and buying mems

[median spade]

idk about all levels of invest but selena deleted cradle

[light basin]

i just unlocked affix ppc omg this mode got hands

[median spade]

you swap mems?

[ripe stag]

True

[median spade]

i just make multiple sets

[pallid cypress]

should i leap alisa?

[ripe stag]

YES

[gilded flint]

Yes

[frozen spindle]

What cub skills should i run on selena's cub

[gilded flint]

@ripe stag for glaciation wanshi, all I have to do is enter that one mode then ping blue and yellow orbs right?

[raw swift]

verdict on dmc cubs and weapon?

[pallid cypress]

i should do story for BC

[hasty bluff]

for hanying reso still dlt?

[hallow vector]

Hey guys, I need your help really quick. Does it matter if I have - let's say - 4 Signa AND 2 Davinci on Alisa:Echo and harmonize 2 Davinci OR have 4 Davinci AND 2 Signa and harmonize 2 Signa. It's a question of principle, Echo is just an example.

[gilded flint]

Yea, if ppc, then you might be able to run the reso that shreds 8%

[hasty bluff]

Thank you !

[median spade]

very minimal differences, you can check which memories are better to be held vs harmonized with /minmax in #📨・bot-info

[gilded flint]

Also nice gto pfp

[raw swift]

team guide for shark-spear/madorea/lamia?

[muted coral]

what set selena use

[humble mirage]

How good is Selena DPS wise?

[muted coral]

js get her man

[ripe stag]

No
It's basically ice rotation but instead of hold red to enter shooting mode, you do hold dodge to enter shooting mode.
Enter shooting mode and then spam 12 red

[humble mirage]

But Vera hot asf

[muted coral]

get both

[humble mirage]

Good point

Vergil can wait

[gilded flint]

Go to bot help and use /build pianissimo to see her builds

[hallow vector]

Thanks, that bot does sure know their stuff

If I were to put this weapon on Echo, could I harmonize then?

[median spade]

yeah

[lapis elbow]

is the 4 alphonse / 4 shakespeare build for epitaph up to date?

[median spade]

yes

[pallid cypress]

i love games where everyone uses the same materials for level up and skill up

[median spade]

i lied i did not settle

[gilded flint]

[golden star]

Hey Nathan hepl me

Help

[ripe stag]

https://media.discordapp.net/attachments/867718398208245761/1387520641313538160/video_20250626_011946_edit.mp4?ex=685da4cb&is=685c534b&hm=f628bcc101a87244f0f61a3db1047ad39a6d3e4cef55be92c43846fb8d47adf0&

[golden star]

I tried to dodge cancel lucia for 5th ult but that didn't work

[ripe stag]

Why use Ultima Slash when Glaciation exists? (Ignore the fact that it's Ultima Slash node)

[lapis elbow]

oh wait I should ask since it's a bit confusing, would that be the main build for a pyroath team? there's so many builds between the bot and pgr site that it's hard to tell what's what

[ripe stag]

Gaslight Glaciation to be the point that it off-effect

[golden star]

Is this all sss+?

[median spade]

well first

ignore gray raven website, they don't play the game nor keep that up to date.

second, yes. that build is for the fire team. wata is only used in that really

[peak halo]

which u think should i ss3 selena
game said: no 3 times

[ripe stag]

SS0 R1 Selena
SS0 R2 Alisa
SSS0 R1 Wanshi

[lapis elbow]

gooot it thanks

[median spade]

wata no affix (yet [praying for leap])

[frosty drift]

Haloo

[gilded flint]

Ss3 ish allows for the axe kick to deal dmg with max stacks right? Or at least thats the essance of it right?

Is the starting rot changed too for this purpose to?

Also is there any possible energy issues I should be aware of?

[light basin]

is using balter over dmc for trueslash super scuffed

[cold walrus]

yeah you better use selena instead of this outdated piece

[fluid gulch]

Juts don't play TS at all

ded team

[light basin]

rip

[cold walrus]

pull sss han and vergil

[fluid gulch]

Fund me

[surreal mural]

quickest way to ult with ishmael ?

any input god ?

[cold walrus]

swap>3p blue>ult 1>ryr>dodge dodge>ult2

[cyan pollen]

Yo can someone please take a screenshot of the rainbow card shop I deleted the game and I need it

[cold walrus]

do it in less than 1 sec

[surreal mural]

ryr ?

[cold walrus]

red yellow red

[surreal mural]

gaddamn

ok

[cold walrus]

**if you want 7s lamia kill. otherwise you can be slower

[cyan pollen]

.

[surreal mural]

thats what i want

but i am slow af

can't seem to go under 9s

[gilded flint]

do you have dv eins on your attacker, and 4 guin on the amp?

[surreal mural]

does that really matter ?

[light basin]

ok why cant hanying do 2 ults

[surreal mural]

its knight it dies regardless

[gilded flint]

You are trying to kill the boss as fast as you can so yea

[surreal mural]

for hell you mean

[gilded flint]

nah, trying to kill the boss as fast as you can applies for knight, hell, and chaos

[surreal mural]

DLT ?

[gilded flint]

However thats just 100% meta

[light basin]

i have dlt but not enough energy

[gilded flint]

9s is fine if youre not trying to mald

[surreal mural]

also screwing up the matrix orb on hanying fks up the rotation

[gilded flint]

^

after 1st ult you should ping matrix red

[surreal mural]

3 red 1 yellow for first ult then a 3 blue

keep the matrix and start spamming red until green for 2nd will have enough

pinging yellow when the enemy attacks you triggers matrix

and fks it up

[graceful escarp]

whats selenas 2piece?

[surreal mural]

cottie

[graceful escarp]

oh not patton? alr

[gilded flint]

patton is an option in ppc

[surreal mural]

patton for some sweaty ppc

[graceful escarp]

okayy thx

and what weapon resos? Dlt and?

[surreal mural]

afterglow

[fluid gulch]

DLT is enuff

[hallow vector]

Is there a bot command to see what color to choose from the Awaken 3 Ping reward on each unit?

[weary harness]

What colour infinitas on Selena?

[surreal mural]

red or yellow afaik

[fluid gulch]

Yea

I don't think that matters tho

[jovial shadow]

only 2 more days of school and its finally summer for me dude

[fluid gulch]

iirc she converts all pings to yellow and red

[hasty bluff]

in 5 week sign in event they are giving off a free s rank. i already have a sss wanshi for my ice , do i still need shukra or i select epitaph and get him beyond ss?

[light basin]

what color infinitas for hanying

[surreal mural]

red

[spiral merlin]

it does not matter

[surreal mural]

^

all orbs convert on her

[light basin]

ok i'm missing something

[surreal mural]

you can use lingya cub on alisa and 3 ping on her before switch for 1 more blue orb

if you really need it

[light basin]

i shouldn't i think there's just something i'm not understanding

[surreal mural]

whats your rotation

[light basin]

idk what though

[weary harness]

Should I pull echo sig or save?

[surreal mural]

save

[weary harness]

OKAY

[surreal mural]

new chara sig more important

[stray siren]

It depends, if you have Nanami SS3/SSS, Watanabe can wait

Qu is a good option as long as you can get her weapon + DLT

[hasty bluff]

I don't have nanami ss3 I have her till ss. And I thave about 21K bc for char+ wep rn (for veera)

[lapis elbow]

everybody's so expensive 😭
unit #23434536 that requires both weapon and reso

[surreal mural]

funny because nanami and watanabe are 2 of the units that don't need it

[lapis elbow]

shoosh

[light basin]

ok this is awful but

usually something like this and then struggling

[surreal mural]

already bricked, i just told you 1st rotation is 3 red 1 yellow

stop spamming red

3 red 1 yellow green, ult 3 blue ping once

[stray siren]

I think in your case I would wait for the next patch in CN, to see if there is any Leap to Wata or Qu

In any case, Tank > Attacker, so Wata would have priority

[surreal mural]

ult but make sure not to consume blue anymore

[weary harness]

This is what you're looking for https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EGr6YE56b8E&t=305s

[surreal mural]

2nd ult is red spam

[hasty bluff]

So I can get the slector pack and decide at a later date ?

[light basin]

i have no energy if i do 3 red 1 yellow

[weary harness]

You have sig?

[surreal mural]

^

[light basin]

yeah and dlt

[stray siren]

F2P Game Problems

S + weapon guaranteed in every patch = u need it's SS + Reso weapon to work properly

[weary harness]

Weird

[frosty drift]

I have like 29k bc rn will I have enough left for dmc collab if I pull Selena and Vera?

[stray siren]

Yes, tickets generally have an expiration date, more or less two months from the moment you get it

[surreal mural]

post vid of you doing it

that is sus

[light basin]

ofc when i record it i have enough

[hasty bluff]

I see. I think I will take the selector pack and wait a month to see if in future wata receives a leap if he does I will pick him else I will pick qu

[weary harness]

This patch is 44k, next patch is 15k, all 4 units are 51k + 30k if you include weapons

[hasty bluff]

Thanks for your advice!

[weary harness]

Thats in total, not seperating BC./cub/weapon tickets

[stray siren]

No problem!

[light basin]

i think i was doing the order wrong, if i blue then 3x tap ult i have enough

[surreal mural]

well yes lol

[frosty drift]

Thanks

[surreal mural]

you blue first and trigger matrix then tap ult twice and hold for the 3rd

[stoic niche]

Is hanying needs this cub skill because she is not ss3?

[light basin]

ok this char's ez

do i need to do a ping before swapping off or is it fine

[surreal mural]

if you really need 1 more orb from lingya sure

also triggering matrix before pressing blue is reset

because it will kill the rotation

and pressing yellow likes to trigger it if you're getting hit at that exact point

[fluid gulch]

I love when Hanying triggers matrix with her yellow ping

[lean plinth]

should i buy Lilith shards from ppc shop? voucher shop seems kinda slow ngl

or should I stick to voucher shop

[surreal mural]

if you have enough for the new characters too

sure

[lean plinth]

will take some time but i hope so

i have 220 skulls

currently

[surreal mural]

DMC patch charas are not in PPC shop so that's a free skull patch

[frozen spindle]

What do i run on selena cub?

[lean plinth]

i see, not really interested in dmc tbh

[light basin]

ok i cured my stupid ty @surreal mural

[lean plinth]

so il be fine

[surreal mural]

for passive skill it's like this for any sig cub

[lean plinth]

main concern is should I use the skulls for lilth ss3

i am at ss1 with some shards

[surreal mural]

Passive special skill > dmg % buff > extra dmg% on activation

[frozen spindle]

Gotcha thx

[lean plinth]

do you wanna see how many discounted shards i can buy and how many skulls I have + how many shards I have currently?

[surreal mural]

no, keep for new charas

turtle with vouchers

[light basin]

turtle 😭

[lean plinth]

turtle💀

[lean plinth]

its really slow tho but alr

[surreal mural]

any new character is horrible at base S

SS is human rights

[light basin]

yes

[surreal mural]

SS3 is luxury if F2P

[still gorge]

is narushio reliable? for pianissimo he said get signature for bot slot

[surreal mural]

it doesn't matter

[shy jackal]

No

[surreal mural]

it's like 5 atk stat if you bottom cottie

2 piece usually goes bottom row

[still gorge]

what

[lean plinth]

ok

[lean plinth]

i have ss3 luna and ss6 ish

[surreal mural]

cottie gives 2 more atk stat than selena sig memory for example

so you get +4 atk stat more if you bottom her 2 piece

[lean plinth]

and one more ss3 character I can't remember the name of (i believe)

[still gorge]

sure but that wasnt what i was asking, so im confused

[surreal mural]

he is reliable

[still gorge]

ahh ok thanks

[surreal mural]

if you don't care about the incremental value of 4 atk stat

memories can go any slot

[light basin]

tbh i didn't know but i cba to change them

cottie bottom now though

[still gorge]

oh thats not what i was asking, i was asking whether i should get core passive or signature for the bot row slot

[surreal mural]

it's small beans, no reason to change it

[light basin]

core for selena

[surreal mural]

oh lmao

core passive

[still gorge]

dont mind it bro

anyway thanks

[surreal mural]

say resonance

[hollow pond]

Is it okay not to pull for pianissimo sig weap?

[still gorge]

i forgor

[surreal mural]

kinda rough, it gives orbs

[hollow pond]

Ill try to get it, i just hope i get it early

Thanks

[surreal mural]

i got max pity on 2 selenas her sig and her cub 😔

[light basin]

rip

[hollow pond]

What is that luck

[surreal mural]

it's the usual

[hollow pond]

I mean yeah, but it kinda hurts maxing pity

That's how gacha works

[surreal mural]

would you have preferred a 50/50 system with that max pity ?

i'll take max pity in PGR any day of the week than a 50/50 gacha

[rich ravine]

hi guys, do hanying and echo stay on the same memories

[hollow pond]

Nahhhh im thankful its guaranteed than losing 50/50

[surreal mural]

yes

[fluid gulch]

I would've never played PGR if it had 50/50

[surreal mural]

i think if PPC sweat

alisa goes 4 sig 4 philip and hanying 4 dv 4 patton ?

catherine needs to be in there somewhere too

[light basin]

yellow matrix hanying smile

i get it now

[surreal mural]

yeah just yellow ping first to get it out of the way

you can even dodge cancel it

[light basin]

my hanying decided to matrixc ping blue

[shy jackal]

If you won't have the funds for vera after pulling selena's sig, then sure

However you'll only be able to do one rotation before you have to swap off

[old berry]

hey there, is there a selena faq yet?

[barren plank]

Im in the middle of making one

I think I can get it finished in like 12-18 hours from now (cause it’s late and I have work next day)

[lean plinth]

WHAT RHE FKKXKSKSISNDBD

@astral marsh @obsidian dune

idk if you remember me from yesterday, i was the guy who "accidentally" got ishmael coz I was pity building

well i just pulled on basic selector banner coz I had 260 tickets

i didn't even select her.

[frozen spindle]

Is selena and vera weapon required?

[barren plank]

Building pity in the big 2025

[barren plank]

Selena very much wants her weapon, Vera’s is nice to have but not necessary

[lean plinth]

i really didn't know that it isn't a real thing, but they were kind enough to explain while also making fun of me

[frozen spindle]

Gotcha thx

[barren plank]

Ah rip

Well at the very least SS3 Ishmael is very strong

[lean plinth]

hey atleast I have sss ishmael

[barren plank]

Oop never mind

[lean plinth]

as an f2p

[barren plank]

Do u even have Luna lol

[barren plank]

Who did u use your selector on then btw

[lean plinth]

pyraoth

[barren plank]

Ah gotcha

[lean plinth]

yeah ss3

[barren plank]

Oh nice

[lean plinth]

yep

[stoic niche]

On which one should i use nihil team?

[astral marsh]

Congrats, also very surprised u remember me 💀

[lean plinth]

ofc I would, i try to remember everyone who give me advices

[astral marsh]

Haha, also transfer some of that luck to my Selena pulls... Hopefully can get her early and not hit 60/60 again... My Ishmael literally went 60/60...

[frank kindle]

get the hell out

carried

[lean plinth]

imagine I pull on ur account and you get early selena

[lean plinth]

im suprised as well

[astral marsh]

Haha, anyways that's actually kinda crazy, the chance of that happening is so low that I don't even wanna comprehend it lol

[frank kindle]

so low u might as well just go hit the lottery

especially hitting ish from base

[frozen creek]

Just get lucky

[visual topaz]

Should I keep pulling selena dupes ?

[naive apex]

This week's intensive battle is dumb. Having lightning and plasma at the same time.

[lean plinth]

i know it's so rare that I don't wanna imagine

i didn't expect it at all

[naive apex]

Every character will be 60/60. You should not expect early pulls EVER with the rates in this game. Hitting pity is the expected. Early is super rare and you'll probably see that once a year.

[lean plinth]

i got like 4 earlies... back to back

[naive apex]

It's not a "haha I hope I get lucky game", no it's spend 15k almost 100% of the time.

[astral marsh]

Lmao saying like I don't know 💀

[lean plinth]

and this ig

[lean plinth]

thats what happens usually with me but idk what's going on recently

[astral marsh]

Got like 30k ready for the next patch... Gambling with luck in this game? Crazy

[naive apex]

I lost the 80% on selena weapon which is spooky for my DMC stocks

[lean plinth]

should I pull on both selena and vera

i need to pull on vera to complete fire team

[astral marsh]

I still haven't finished downloading! Damn 40gb update 💀

[naive apex]

Intensive battle lineup is trolly sometimes. It's got 2 teams that want nanami and then the third one is trueslash copium

[lean plinth]

should I pull on selena tho

[naive apex]

you should never skip S ranks

[astral marsh]

There's no skip character in this game, everyone is a must pull

[lean plinth]

okay so pull pull ig

il go pull and come back, i dont know if i want selena rn but sure

[deft apex]

S+ or death

Wife material

[naive apex]

Get 1 copy of non-free S-ranks as a f2p, then any extra you get or spend can be saved up for weapons or DMC

[astral marsh]

Yep. The game gives enough to pull every single new characters

[lean plinth]

can she solo physical wz and ppc just to get by if I wanted to?

like for now till i figure out her team

[naive apex]

Why would you need when Alisa is free?

I mean need to solo

[lean plinth]

id need another character except alisa to complete the team tho

hanging afaik

[naive apex]

You've got A rank tanks for QTE bots

[astral marsh]

Hanying*

[jovial shadow]

would the new bianca, lillith and vera geiravor be a good team?

[astral marsh]

By solo they meant play on filed and not swap

[naive apex]

They're obviously worse, but you've got a team if you've got someone QTE botting

[jovial shadow]

im lowkey skipping selena pianissimo for vera and vergil for bianca ngl

[lean plinth]

autocorrect

[astral marsh]

Same here haha

[lean plinth]

yes

[astral marsh]

Can't really answer that... I don't know such cope...

[lean plinth]

im skipping dmc patch characters

[lean plinth]

she should be fine for the time being

[naive apex]

Yeah but you've got Alisa to play so you aren't permanently out of Selena orbs. I doubt solo with basic spamming for orbs beats that

[jovial shadow]

yea imma js get dante so i can run him with vera geiravor and nanami startrail

[lean plinth]

eh fk it lemme pull then, she hot af

[jovial shadow]

is this smart?

[lean plinth]

why tho, don't you have pyraoth?

[astral marsh]

U could technically solo with hanying with dlt cottie, but idk how pianismo works yet, haven't researched on her yet

[jovial shadow]

i do but i’ll switch between the 2

and lucia pyroth is for my plasma beam team

[lean plinth]

i see seems like a waste

[jovial shadow]

while nanami startrail and dante is for ignition

ykwim

[lean plinth]

oh

i see

[jovial shadow]

and then my fire team is gonna be lucia pyroath, watanabe epitaph and vera geiravor

[lean plinth]

makes sense, not sure if il pull

im hesitant

[astral marsh]

Too much downtime... Alisa without invest does negative dmg.. tho again I dunno how Selena works yet to properly answer

[naive apex]

If you skip S-ranks your teams will be weak

[lean plinth]

yeah same for my fire team

[jovial shadow]

if ur making a glaciation team u should pull

[lean plinth]

oh fk she is a good glaciation too tho. and I have lucid dreamer...

ok il pull and come back

[naive apex]

If you skip S-ranks your teams will be weak.

[lean plinth]

let's see if I get in 5 pulls

[astral marsh]

Again... You're not supposed to skip any new S ranks in this game.. the game makes sure u got more than enough to pull per patch

[jovial shadow]

im just skipping selena pianissimo cuz she doesnt rlly interest me

[jovial shadow]

nah i’ll be fine trust ✌️

[naive apex]

If you skip characters, you are intentionally throwing so your waifu does 20% more damage in exchange for the skipper team doing 90% less

[jovial shadow]

cuz ngl i dont like how lucid dreamer plays

[lean plinth]

i was told this game doesn't work like that

[astral marsh]

Even if u r a bit short now, assuming u r new, you should have a lot of one time bc source to work with and get enough to pull

[worthy token]

if I can only get 1 right now, would CUB be more important for lucid dreamer or oblivion?

[astral marsh]

Yep

[jovial shadow]

idk man

[lean plinth]

again same but teams are needed to clear content

[jovial shadow]

ive been using a plasma beam team and havent had any struggles in any mode whatsoever

[whole falcon]

lucid

[lean plinth]

i myself am struggling with norman coz I don't have enough characters

[astral marsh]

You can actually get everyone in this game if u just play regularly... There's no fomo like oh if I pull this unit I won't have enough for the other one :)

[jovial shadow]

idk man its kinda a hassle getting selena pianissimo and her signature then getting alissas signature too just for a glaciation team

[lean plinth]

yeah that's why I'm playing this game

[worthy token]

thank you

[astral marsh]

You'll have them, just takes time

[lean plinth]

yeah

[jovial shadow]

ykwim

[naive apex]

This patch is also triple patch so you'll get above 15k from daily/weekly/event rewards before the patch is over

[lean plinth]

i mean i started the game 2 months ago after pulling for cw 2 years ago and then abandoning the game

[jovial shadow]

does alissa echo NEED her signature?

like for example its not that big of a deal if lucid dreamer has his sig or not someone told me

[whole falcon]

no but she needs a 6 star for harmonization

[astral marsh]

Even if u miss out on old units, the newer ones releasing will eventually replace them, so if u play long enough u r guaranteed to have full meta team for each element and affixes

[whole falcon]

you can get tonitrus from the free 6 star weapon selector that new players get

[jovial shadow]

so should i js get her signature 💔

[naive apex]

Everybody needs sig thanks to harmonization exists, but Alisa is pretty low on the priority order

[lean plinth]

sadly i hate the fact that the game moves very quickly and I have to abandon some of the older characters

[jovial shadow]

i alr chose a weapon from there and used it for resonance like 3-4 weeks ago💔😭

[naive apex]

Correction: Everybody that has a spot on a team.

[worthy token]

tbf it doesnt move that quickly unless you think 1.5+ years is quick?
like liv empyrea is over 2 years old and only now shes going to be replaced soon

[jovial shadow]

my current team consists of lucia pyroath, nanami startrail, lillith, in the future i’ll have a 2nd team consisting of dante, vera geiravor and watanabe epitaph ✌️

[astral marsh]

I'm actually enjoying it xD before it was going at snail's pace. Now everything is so fast xD very little downtime

[jovial shadow]

W teams?

[naive apex]

It does move quickly because of the catchup patches being 2-3x speed

[jovial shadow]

and maybe now i can get selena pianissimo and make a glaciation team ig

[lean plinth]

it just feels overwhelming when you have to build so many characters at once

[jovial shadow]

just focus on one every day/2 days since u have so much time already

[worthy token]

I suppose, though this is the last catch up patch isnt it?

[lean plinth]

should I use the bcs to pull on event banner? is that alright?

[naive apex]

Effect teams are really weak against anything that's not specifically weak to an effect. Better use normal elemental team.

[lean plinth]

i need to build watan, vera and Selena all at the same time

[astral marsh]

Luckily, the farming in this game is a blessing :) one event, one shop, to get everything u need and it's pretty quick aswell thanks to the 3x

[jovial shadow]

yea thas y i have a plasma team and a fire team, and in the future i’ll have a dark team with biancas new frame

[lean plinth]

i just struggle with hypertune materials thats all

atleast I was struggling last patch

[jovial shadow]

just do the clash of reflection overtune thing wtv its called

[naive apex]

Hypertune, harmo and skulls are pretty slow

[jovial shadow]

for skulls js do ultimate zone if ur new fr

[jovial shadow]

theyre so easy and it gives so many skulls

imma finish mine tmrw

[astral marsh]

Yep, that is a pain to get... You'll get stockpile eventually and everything will kinda become pointless

[lean plinth]

already did clash

[astral marsh]

Join guild. And convert the guild currency as well into ht mats if u r short

[lean plinth]

interesting

im on a guild yes

[raw swift]

I'm at the stockpile stage

[naive apex]

We need more team preset slots soon.

[raw swift]

On pretty much anything

[astral marsh]

Same

[raw swift]

I don't think I'm getting vera until atleast the end of the patch though

[dull moon]

how do you shoot when you are in hold on wanshi

[raw swift]

Just tapping red

[dull moon]

ty ❤️ @raw swift

[astral marsh]

I can leave the game for a year and still will probably have enough to do everything I need

[raw swift]

I wanted alisa sig and just pulled for it immediately

Now I have about 4000BC

[astral marsh]

I'm actually pulling for cubs :) dumping a few excess bc on them

[astral marsh]

Vera ai not getting vera early 💀

[lean plinth]

im on 97 level so ig approaching endgame?

[raw swift]

I never cared for vera

[astral marsh]

Luckily I got 30k now, if I don't get scuffed on the Selena weapon I can guarantee vera on the next week

[raw swift]

If I wasn't vera I'd be Liv, Kamui, or back to Mambon

[astral marsh]

She's coming in a week yes?

[raw swift]

Yes

[astral marsh]

Need Liv 🗿

[astral marsh]

U already there.

[lean plinth]

still have alot of teams to build so maybe?

[astral marsh]

From 80 u can do endgame. Or it's 88 I forgot...

[raw swift]

To be honest 80 being endgame is kinda eh

[frank kindle]

more like 90 cuz u unlock full CR

[raw swift]

I think about 105-110 is endgame

111-120 are true endgame

[lean plinth]

and i haven't even completed my story

[lean plinth]

^

[raw swift]

Maybe that's just my experience since I didn't actually get an instructor

So I had more time in less levels

[astral marsh]

Bro I've been playing for years... Even I'm only at chapter 10 💀

[raw swift]

By level 90 I had like double everyone's s ranks my level

[jovial shadow]

for how long will vera geiravor stay in the banner?

[lean plinth]

pgr story is eh usually

[lean plinth]

when is it coming tho

[jovial shadow]

next week or smth? idk

[frank kindle]

what chapter are u on

[fluid gulch]

https://tenor.com/view/esqueleto-gif-24452082

[astral marsh]

Heard it gets really good later... But needs too much dedication to get into it, which I never had 💀

[lean plinth]

i know it gets good after a certain point but I don't like watching slide shows

[astral marsh]

Never played a single visual novel or read a novel?

[fluid gulch]

The story is REALLY good tho

but 80% of the community have reading issues so it is what it is

[lean plinth]

no I have trust, pgr story doesn't interest me, maybe I've lost the attention span where I get lost into that specific world while reading

[astral marsh]

At least I don't. I think. I have time and dedication issue 💀

[lean plinth]

i have developed ADHD so that might be it

i cant focus on things for too long and it's bad

im trying to fix myself but its hard

[astral marsh]

What got u still hooked into playing the game?

[fluid gulch]

Yeah, keep thinking that's good for ya

Better than not to think

[lean plinth]

the gameplay mechanics and the characters, and how generous it is, i hate genshin and left it for good coz of how stingy they were

rigged af

[astral marsh]

Everytime I see some cool sht. Or see someone praising how good the story is I think to myself okay it's finally time I get to it... Then I become busy or realize how long it is and lose all motivation 💀

[fluid gulch]

That's called procrastination my man

[astral marsh]

Hey... I'm a professional at that tbh

I literally wait till the last day to grind all the events/story in othe games

And had to rush to get everything done

How do u stop procrastination... I'm already doing it now... I got work later but instead of sleeping I'm doom scrolling discord

[fluid gulch]

You're just gotta start

If you start your chances of actually doing something automatically increase

[astral marsh]

Same here. Tho I did quit back in Alisa patch as I was getting too busy and everything felt really slow. But came back again at the start of Luna patch

[astral marsh]

That's the hardest step... I'm actually a completioist kinda... Once I start something I won't stop untill I fully finish, which makes me not wanna start a lot of things... Cuz ik I won't be able to focus on anything else if I start it

Bruh, I got work in a few hours. Was thinking of sleeping but now it's too late, gotta chug some coffee and energy drink and push through it ig

[dull moon]

is there any good ice wz rotation videos that have the rotation written down

[lean plinth]

im malding plasma beam wz since 2 days

for 4+ hrs everyday

[astral marsh]

I didn't even touch :) I gave up after finishing fire wz rot... Don't wanna mald for plasma now

[fluid gulch]

https://tenor.com/view/wwe-angle-slam-kurt-angle-wrestling-move-gif-15838188442280445945

GO TO SLEEP

[astral marsh]

Too late lmao, didn't realize how much time passed while I was doom scrolling, if I sleep now I probably won't be able to make it for work

[lean plinth]

well it's my first time with a plasma beam team so yeah

[astral marsh]

I only have one set built for Lilith...

I'm sitting on all the resources but don't have time to look up everything and build the other sets

[lean plinth]

same same

[astral marsh]

Cuz rn she just sharing other's set

[lean plinth]

i cant bother doing another set when I'm struggling with hypertune materials

[astral marsh]

Which I don't like. I want all to have their own personal sets

[astral marsh]

Don't do it lmao, it's not something new players should do... Even if there's plenty, resources is still scares in the early game

I'm doing it cuz of preference and I have too much resources

Most ppl still just shares set

[lean plinth]

im struggling with resources

[raw swift]

School starts in 1min goodbye

[lean plinth]

i dont do thank god v

[astral marsh]

Thought u work at mcD

[raw swift]

Iiii got fired

[astral marsh]

Aw

[raw swift]

For burning customers

[astral marsh]

Expected

[lean plinth]

so burger king now?

[astral marsh]

School teacher? 💀

[fluid gulch]

Starbucks?

[astral marsh]

Vera teaching kids how to mutilate a body

[lean plinth]

working at Starbucks is actually dope though

[whole falcon]

forcefeed them lunchables and prime

[lean plinth]

its like mixing different potions to make an oatmilk chai tea latte infused with 2 pumps of vanilla

[whole falcon]

force their eyes open and make them watch cinemasins

[astral marsh]

That's why u have sm resources constraints. Share the dv/guin/eins set with multiple characters. Don't hypertune your supports. Only hypertune ur main dps. Start with the bottom row first iirc (someone correct me)

[fluid gulch]

Sounds like a witchcraft

[astral marsh]

Fate worse than death

[lean plinth]

but if i share it says that the memories are already binded to another character

[astral marsh]

Yes. Doesn't matter, don't really need resonance on supports/qte bots

(in the early game)

[lean plinth]

im not in early game tho

[astral marsh]

Later when u got excess u'd slowly want to build up individual sets for the class passive bonus (but only that)

[astral marsh]

I'd say 1-2 month is still early game

[lean plinth]

yes but i already playrd before

and then left the game

[astral marsh]

Which u quit just after pulling cw?

[lean plinth]

yeah and fully building her

[astral marsh]

Rip to her 💀

[lean plinth]

https://huaxu.app/ap/players/18278264/characters

look at my profile (f2p)

[astral marsh]

Also got the skin 🐋

U got brs... U played back then?... Demn I quit just before it dropped

[lean plinth]

actually I was hyped for the skin and wasn't following meta back then, so i told my friend to just pull it for me when he gets time

[lean plinth]

yeah, i just got her and then stopped

[astral marsh]

So around how many months total u've been playing for?

[zinc tide]

how worth to get selena?

[lean plinth]

5 i think

[astral marsh]

Very very very worth

[lean plinth]

if you count the before too

[lean plinth]

must for glaciation, important for physcial

replacement for bianca

[astral marsh]

I see I see. But ye, since u did only just returned you should still be facing some resources constraints... Tho idk since with the 2x, 3x patch they do give way too much stamina

[fluid gulch]

Must for glacio, must for phys

Phys is ded ded without selena now

[lean plinth]

2x patch i was pretty whack on stamina, so 3x patch is the ho

[normal sierra]

@visual topaz you know how to search on that garbo bili, right?
what do I write if I want to search for ss0/ss3 midlena dark sharkie runs?

[lean plinth]

really?

il pull then

[spiral merlin]

selena can ppc?

[normal sierra]

I dunno, das why I ask

[spiral merlin]

shes too slow surely

[astral marsh]

She can do ur homework

[normal sierra]

I know sss is fast kill with blue orb spam, but lower ranks can't do that

[spiral merlin]

i dont think she could tbh

[hard pewter]

Can you challenge intensive ppc again and again or is it like a one time thing just like the normal ppc where once you save the run its permanently set?

[astral marsh]

She ain't a dummy like the feesh

Surely she can...

[fluid gulch]

She's schizo

[spiral merlin]

the not dummy who went into a dangerous zone despite no battle experience

uh huh

[astral marsh]

No story clue 💀

[spiral merlin]

[astral marsh]

Professional story procrastinator here

[normal sierra]

is okay, her story relevance before this chapter is practically nil

[astral marsh]

All I remember is her being cut in half by Gabriel

And being sad

[normal sierra]

and that's all the role she got until now lul

[astral marsh]

Lmao

[whole falcon]

youre just jealous because you cant do the split

[lean plinth]

i cant even reach 1.8m in ppc :(

always less than 200k short

[astral marsh]

You can keep challenging

[lean plinth]

hate gabriel tho

[astral marsh]

Back in my days 3 months playtime still stuck at advance

[normal sierra]

it is not "permanently set" per say
you can overwrite your old scores by redoing the run and save again, but it will take another daily attempt and the characters' AP
manage your AP wisely or you won't do good there

[hard pewter]

Ooooh ighr thankss

[normal sierra]

ohh wait, it's whel ppc, lul
yeah, you can go ham there, but can only use the chars in one team

[lean plinth]

wz went from spamming buttons to creating a nuclear bomb in morse code

in just 3 years

[astral marsh]

Bro got stuff mixed up 💀

[hard pewter]

Ahhh ight Ill also keep that in mind thanksss

[normal sierra]

me cells slowed down after malding 7s lamia kill... twice

[astral marsh]

Demn I still remember my astral solo wz cope 💀 as someone that purposefully skipped Luna and got uncs sig, the leap upgrade back then was also massive for me

[craggy stirrup]

Can someone tell me how to do these inputs frame-by-frame?

[tired anvil]

can you use glaciation in ice war zone?

[spiral merlin]

no

[fluid gulch]

No

[normal sierra]

you can, but your dmg will be wet noodle

[tired anvil]

you can use ice in glaciation war zone right?

[craggy stirrup]

No, it's a separate damage type

[spiral merlin]

hold dodge > dodge x3 > hold basic > ult > dodge x3 > hold basic > ult

[astral marsh]

7s... Demn... I can do 8 after malding God knows how long... But 7 💀 who u used?

[craggy stirrup]

Thanks

[tired anvil]

i haver old 6 star weapons from chrome glory, luna, rossetta that i dont use anymore, should i scrap them and make one for a newer construct?

[astral marsh]

Turn ur brain off and trust the process 💀

[craggy stirrup]

Honestly best I could do is just keep them as reso mats

[lean plinth]

thats wild, i saw my friend playing luna oblivion a year before release on cn, and i fell instantly in love

[normal sierra]

fastest killer there is, the cutscene simulator herself, ishmael
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mxXJyuywfZk

[shy bane]

Does echo leap changes her phys rot?

[astral marsh]

I'd say use them as reso mat

[tired anvil]

i have a bunch of reso stuff that ive never used

[craggy stirrup]

Did you ever put reso on their weapons?

[astral marsh]

Kinda expected... I did 8s with nanaknight

[tired anvil]

i only put deadline on ones that are orb hungry

like new selena

[craggy stirrup]

Just keep them for now, in case times get desperate

[astral marsh]

I'm talking about the first Luna. Not oblivion 💀

[normal sierra]

8s with nana? was that burn ult kill or something?

[craggy stirrup]

DLT and Glorious Afterglow for my selena

[tired anvil]

still worth getting luna oblivion weapon if i have ishmael + sig?

[lean plinth]

ohhh that luna, one of my fav characters too from the og days

[craggy stirrup]

Yes

[astral marsh]

With lots of dodge cancel and very sweaty rotation and hours of malding...

[craggy stirrup]

Luna needs weapon to get her rots faster

[astral marsh]

Also dlt for the double ult rot

[lean plinth]

you need to

[craggy stirrup]

I ping an extra orb before ult2 so i can enter ult1 even faster

[tired anvil]

DMC weapons are on the regular weapon banner right? (they are full price?)

[craggy stirrup]

rots so fast the neighbors can hear eurobeat

[astral marsh]

I see, I just dodge cancel. Too fast rot that even on dlt sometimes might get orb shortage for the second ult

[craggy stirrup]

I can pull off a 3rd ult if I'm lucky

But by the time I do, ish is already available to switch anyway

[lean plinth]

i feel that even with dlt luna feels short of orbs

[astral marsh]

Never even tried lmao. I'm all out by the second. If I wanna extend to third gotta sacrifice some pings for hold basic charge

[lean plinth]

she does the most damage anyways

[craggy stirrup]

I could only do 3rd rots in the roguelike modes

[lean plinth]

she's crazy for wz

[craggy stirrup]

Omw to bruteforce phys warzone with ishmael

[astral marsh]

Exactly, sometimes might miss some orb for the second ult

[lean plinth]

yeah that's what I do

i take my nihil team to brute force into physical and ice

[craggy stirrup]

She can only do 1 rotation before you gotta switch tho

[lean plinth]

not really

[astral marsh]

No?

[craggy stirrup]

Yellow orb takes so long to refill

[lean plinth]

she can do like 3-4 rots before switching, i switch every 2 rots to maintain amp buff

[lean plinth]

what? you aren't playing her right

[craggy stirrup]

How do you do that?

[astral marsh]

No need to do that?

[craggy stirrup]

I have SS R3 ish 😭

[lean plinth]

do you have ss ishmael and her sig

[craggy stirrup]

HOW THE FU-

[astral marsh]

Same, I got her dlt, but using other reso instead as I'm always just doing 2 rot max

[astral marsh]

Watch the spider 2b guide. Ish rot is actually quite simple. Thanks kuro

[craggy stirrup]

Also who the hell is Kiriko

[river nymph]

[astral marsh]

Huh?

[verbal cloak]

the girl from overwatch?

[whole falcon]

overwatch x pgr confirmed

[lean plinth]

@craggy stirrup
swap > yellow orb > ult > 2x dodge > 2×3 ping orb > 2x dodge > ult

second swap in > dodge > dodge kick > 2×3 ping orb > 2x dodge, repeat

i hope I said it right others pls confirm, im going by memory

[river nymph]

[astral marsh]

I dunno if this is correct chat...

[lean plinth]

i do it like that so idk

it works fine

[frail hinge]

Quick need Selena memory resos

[astral marsh]

I'm pretty sure the spider 2b one is good

[frail hinge]

Actually I can just use the bot

[astral marsh]

U have SSS 💀

[deft apex]

[lean plinth]

i follow hardcore meta, spider2b is iffy and sometimes he doesn't mention things

[lean plinth]

i now have sss, i didn't have sss like legit 4 days ago

i got from ss0 to sss0 in a matter of 2 days

[frail hinge]

I use 2b's view as an introduction to the character not the entire course

[astral marsh]

Yeah, he messed up, with a few of the guides, but all his recent ones r actually good. He made them with helpers from here

[lean plinth]

^

use specific rots made for wz

[wintry parcel]

No

[lean plinth]

like very specific ones

[wintry parcel]

Collaboration special banner only

[verbal cloak]

fancy seeing you here loverboy

[lean plinth]

https://youtu.be/LEdRrZrEStI?si=c6F3EysSeZOH3oZG

like this helped a ton

[frail hinge]

What

[lean plinth]

the second rot

[frail hinge]

Who tf are you stop stalking my Twitter

[astral marsh]

Show me ur ish rot

[verbal cloak]

I saw your pulls, I hope u hard pity on vera again

[astral marsh]

The one that u r following

[lean plinth]

i need to pull it out of my ass i don't remember where I kept it

[frail hinge]

Kin??
Xuan??
WHO TF ARE YOU

[verbal cloak]

also I don't stalk you timmy, I don't even follow you, u just pop up in my feed everyday

[lean plinth]

i didn't save it, i malded too hard just to learn the rot

its muscle memory now, but lemme check

[astral marsh]

Look deeper 💀

[verbal cloak]

you hitting hard pity is what you get for not pullin on fate

[deft apex]

I heard his ss3 rot is p bad so uhh 💀

[frail hinge]

I know

[deft apex]

Idk if I trust him enough to follow ss rot either

[astral marsh]

Oof, even the helpers flopped

[frail hinge]

Why would anyone go to 2b for anything other than the specific mechanics of each orb

[verbal cloak]

why watch ccs

[astral marsh]

Which he doesn't even do anymore, just goes straight to rot

So which one is it chat. For the first rot, do u ult first then yellow or yellow first then ult? Or it doesn't matter?

[deft apex]

Why would I need to know the specific mechanics of it, just give me the rot to replicate

[frail hinge]

I think he did that again for Selena but I haven't watched properly yet BUT YEAH THISE WERE RHE BEST PARTS OF HIS VIDEOS AND HE ETOPPED

[lean plinth]

i was using kuraisans rot and this

ISHMAEL SS0 ROT

1ST SWAP IN:

1st Rot:
Swap in > yellow > Ult1 > Dodge x2 > Red x2 > Dodge x2 > Ult2

2nd and 3rd rot:
Ult1 > Dodge > Hold dodge (kick) > Red x2 > Dodge x2 > Ult2

ALL SUBSEQUENT SWAP INS:

Swap in > yellow > (Ult1 > Dodge > Hold dodge (kick) > Red x2 > Dodge x2 > Ult2) **x3 **

[frail hinge]

Im no sheep
I cook up my own rots

[lean plinth]

@astral marsh

[astral marsh]

Haven't watched the Selena one yet

[deft apex]

then cry we roast ur dogsht rots

[astral marsh]

KURAI MENTIONED

[frail hinge]

Then again apart from my wata all Mt rots are usually the standard rot + 1 slight difference

[lean plinth]

although rot will now change coz of yk sss0

[lean plinth]

yep

[frail hinge]

Smh I've found a slightly better ish rot than the one from that day

[verbal cloak]

I brick myself and my scores*

[deft apex]

[astral marsh]

Where he at????

[frail hinge]

Y'all mindlessly follow rots and never think about what could me smh my head

M gonna cook up a rot that'll allow me to use Selena flower watch

[deft apex]

Keep dreaming bud

💔

[lean plinth]

https://youtu.be/4T4t9FHOrnM?si=Ox4-O1AiUIk9FqMh

i think this is the one

[frail hinge]

what is a man if he does not dream

[verbal cloak]

I wonder what typa high u got

[frail hinge]

my theory is roughly there

hasnt been put to practise yet

[lean plinth]

wise words

[frail hinge]

cause im 150 skulls from ss0 selena

[astral marsh]

I DIDN'T KNEW KURAI GOT A YT CHANNEL

I'm a fake fan 😭

[verbal cloak]

u better post your failure on twitter

[frail hinge]

basically

recomended kurai rot takes about 9ish s if i remember correctly

BUT

the subsequent sss alisa rot takes another 7

[verbal cloak]

cheek

[frail hinge]

so alisa + selena is 17s

im thinking, cut out alisa, do 17s selena flower rot

[lean plinth]

who the hell uses yahoo

[deft apex]

The pursuit of the mpossible is a Sisyphian task

[astral marsh]

MODS! SICK EM

[frail hinge]

then big pp scores

[lean plinth]

get out

[deft apex]

Oops

[astral marsh]

Nice