📨・meta-help

[spiral merlin]

and capri offers no additional buffs than any other amp

[zealous mantle]

if i have 3S Ayla, should I use her instead of SS3 Feral?

[still moat]

any amp with r2 except capri and ayla

[zealous mantle]

damn, capri that bad

[forest knot]

Ayla can't 1 QTE guin either

[still moat]

i forgot ayla sucks too

[river nymph]

[zealous mantle]

can Alisa trigger 4 guin?

[still moat]

can

[zealous mantle]

ok coz I have 3S Alisa.. so i wonder if she is better than SS3 Feral,
as Lilith support

[spiral merlin]

yes

[true pivot]

some off element amps can trigger guin in a single qte, still not too sure why is that better than 2guin 2eins

[forest knot]

Cuz off element

[still moat]

cause daren holds eins...

[true pivot]

cant daren just hold bath dv, with selena holding sig eins guin

[zealous mantle]

now that you mentioned it my Daren is currently 4 Bath 4 DV
Capri 4 Seraph 2 Eins 2 Guin

if i will transition to a diff Amp as support for Lilith, what will the memories be?

[spiral merlin]

selena sig does absolutely nothing lol

put dv on amp

[still moat]

4 bath 2 eins 2 glo daren
4 dv 4 guin amp

[spiral merlin]

free up slot on daren

[river nymph]

[still moat]

or lantern instead of glo idk which is better tbh

[zealous mantle]

thanks all

[spiral merlin]

i think gloria

[zealous mantle]

iirc Gloria is slightly better for fast kill

[true pivot]

is this just not that good?

[spiral merlin]

which is what ppc is all abt

so

[spiral merlin]

overridden by lilith

[true pivot]

OH CMON

[spiral merlin]

lol

[true pivot]

🤸

[zealous mantle]

powercreep is real lol

[river nymph]

dark radiation is the basic dark heal buff

[true pivot]

wait but

can lilith heal when she is on field?

[river nymph]

doesnt she leave some field?

[true pivot]

idk, i dont play ppc to that extend so i wouldnt know how the buffing work

i just one tap n dip

[still moat]

ye

[spiral merlin]

real

[still moat]

lilith heals herself on ult

[true pivot]

both ults?

[still moat]

ye

[true pivot]

oo

[silent raptor]

what are vergil and dante teams?
who to use with them in affix team

[rough mica]

[still moat]

tis ur girl go study her

[true pivot]

i am not gonna use her in a mid gamemode

[still moat]

based department ??? hello ???

[true pivot]

i say that, but i get 21s on dark ib

[still moat]

cause ur fat

[true pivot]

the mald is insane

[river nymph]

do my ib

[rough mica]

alr done?

[river nymph]

yuh

[rough mica]

[true pivot]

no

[river nymph]

wutda

[rough mica]

this week for normal ppl is like

2x sec on dark

and 4x-5x sec on ice/phys

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/1121909883223146496/1376635193263259799/1066423916282777750.gif

[true pivot]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/emojis/1066423916282777750.gif

[river nymph]

ppc is so cooked

[spiral merlin]

always has been

[silent raptor]

is there any a-rank replacment for epitaph

[true pivot]

damn my cc application was rejected, they ignored me 😭

[still moat]

for ppc its bridget

[true pivot]

free bcs noooo

[still moat]

for wz its nanami startrail

[silent raptor]

i'm using her in lighting team or can i use same character in different teams in wz?

[river nymph]

[still moat]

no one is stopping u to use her twice on wz

[silent raptor]

oh

[true pivot]

gonna be a genshin cc now, cya

[true pivot]

lilith is really hard carrying me rn lmao

im still top 20 on the ib leaderboard

[river nymph]

[true pivot]

dis u?

[river nymph]

no u

[true pivot]

nuh uh

[river nymph]

[rough mica]

too dalao

[river nymph]

need to get 33333333

[rough mica]

mald more

33333333 world record

[true pivot]

yea, mald more

[river nymph]

[silent raptor]

can someone tell me rotation of ishmeal SS

[spiral merlin]

im hungry for an ishmeal

[kindred bobcat]

Ohh

[kindred bobcat]

I dont have to do a 3blue on the 2nd rotation and on the 2nd rot i have to blue on the 4th ult

Fck nihil warzone

[river nymph]

idk if this is the best ss0 rot but it is something at least

https://youtu.be/JoK2UpCgqpo?si=TMKzOzAnYUO5ONB8

[true pivot]

time to self promote my own rot

[river nymph]

[warped axle]

what is the size of the update for mobile?

[river nymph]

[true pivot]

massive

[fringe kestrel]

30-40gb probs

we're all cooked

[spiral merlin]

oh right

no pre dl

[true pivot]

any idea who i should get

[spiral merlin]

this sucks

[true pivot]

[river nymph]

[fringe kestrel]

[spiral merlin]

im not excited for new engine it might mess up my audio

[fringe kestrel]

im hoping input delay goes down

[true pivot]

i still have these in my ppc

[spiral merlin]

for some reason in cn vera patch my bluetooth earbuds audio went way down in quality or smth

[spiral merlin]

input delay?

[river nymph]

[nova forum]

fck this

[fringe kestrel]

#📨・meta-help message

[true pivot]

[river nymph]

[fringe kestrel]

[river nymph]

oh yomm did you see the thing about lightning weather applying in ion zone?

[warped axle]

😭

[fringe kestrel]

game reacts too slow for me, i expect DV and i swap instead

[true pivot]

apparently so, yea

[fringe kestrel]

[river nymph]

[spiral merlin]

that can happen if ur too fast

thats not input delay?

[fringe kestrel]

sounds like game can't keep up to me

[spiral merlin]

thats kuso spaghetti code at work

yea

its the basis behind many bugs

[true pivot]

well if ion mob wz is 16m

imagine ion boss wz

[spiral merlin]

no double weather sadge

[river nymph]

well we wont have lightning weather

[true pivot]

fr

[river nymph]

eww more ice and lightning next week

can we do glacio instead of ice?

[warped axle]

https://tenor.com/view/ninja-ninja-stare-tyler-blevins-tyler-ninja-blevins-cringe-gif-16433056272855193593

[distant wren]

Oh is that how it is? Because we also have light in mixed zone?

[river nymph]

also can leap alisa work as an ice amp off field or does she need to rotate in

[river nymph]

apparently

[forest knot]

Rotate in, only lasts 15s

[river nymph]

rip

so we use ayla for glacio ppc?

[spiral merlin]

alisa always shafted

[true pivot]

its selena wanshi alisa

[river nymph]

[forest knot]

Alisa still better, as long as glacio status is active she'll buff glacio like Lilith

[spiral merlin]

we havent gotten a 'bad' week yet in cn

[river nymph]

oh i see

[spiral merlin]

one where affixes really mess things up

afaik

so maybe theyre hard coded to not happen

[river nymph]

[zealous mantle]

if my vera and feral are both harmo,
what are their memos for solo Nami team?

[odd roost]

Hell yeah!!

[river nymph]

solo nana doesnt use luna lilith?

[hazy sandal]

Gamba

[river nymph]

[still moat]

[trim mortar]

You tell me

[river nymph]

[silent raptor]

who can i replace Solacetune with in physical team?
i got some a-ranks and stigmata

[river nymph]

ayla brilliance

[true pivot]

rosetta

back to the ult mald

[zenith thorn]

garnet!

?

uhhh
garnet 2222
feral 4guin4dv

wait

[river nymph]

[zenith thorn]

garnet 4dv2ein2gloria
fersl 4guin2lf2sam maybe idk

ein application is hard cd right?
idr anymore

[still moat]

garnet in 2025.....

[true pivot]

time to use garnet in glow wz

[river nymph]

so we arent going with the luna lilith team

[true pivot]

i think it might work better

[zenith thorn]

prolly

[true pivot]

considering vera and nanami is fighting for that tank app

[zenith thorn]

death's garnet should be sss no?

i remembered him

[river nymph]

[vale raft]

Vera: Garnet

Skill - SSS

Unyielding Breacher

When Vera: Garnet has Shield, she gains Super Armor and her Extra DMG Reduction increases by 50%. The effect of Turbulence Interference increases by 10%. Extra DMG Bonus of Signature - Shining Piercer increases by 100%.

[true pivot]

doesnt ss3 nanami already have that effect

[vale raft]

Nanami: Startrail

Skill - SSS

Blazing Shooting Star

Level 1 - Unlocked at SS3

Resistance Reduction of Turbulence Interference and Scorching Invasion increases by 10%. Base DMG of Meteoric Doom increases by 100%, and Base DMG of Blazing Rift increases by 60%. Inferno Cyclone applies Combustible Charge 100% faster.

Level 2 - Unlocked at SSS

Resistance Reduction of Turbulence Interference and Scorching Invasion increases by 10%. Each time Meteoric Doom consumes 75 points of Overload, the next casting of Starshard Slash increases its Base DMG by 25%. Stacks are cleared when separating the Shield Axe. For each 5 stacks of Combustible on the target, casting Cosmic Starstrike: Burn increases its Base DMG by 16%. Upon entering the battle, casting Decisive Detonation! for the first time grants 100 points of Starlight. The phase 4 of the first Flowing Light cast grants a 16 extra points of Signature Energy. Cooldown time for switching between all characters in the team reduces by 3s. This effect does not stack with other effects of the same type.

[true pivot]

damn she has an extra 10 at 3s??

[river nymph]

[zenith thorn]

i remembered 4tifa garnet having usage if sss

ss0 nanami tho

[true pivot]

[river nymph]

cryo are you getting the selena wedding skin

[zenith thorn]

yes

skipping dmc and potentially bianca

[true pivot]

damn

[river nymph]

baller

[true pivot]

i really wanna skip badly

[zenith thorn]

https://tenor.com/view/lebron-scream-gif-6369196612355900107

[river nymph]

who

[true pivot]

dmc

i want that selena skin

[zenith thorn]

ts and burn lost cause anyway

[river nymph]

ts pmo sm icl 💔

[zenith thorn]

@spiral merlin is there a week where burn + ts shows up 2gether

[spiral merlin]

yes

we had it first reset of dmc patch

[river nymph]

apparently burn nana can solo well

[spiral merlin]

im a dmc skip advocate

[slate gull]

dante skippable fr fr

[spiral merlin]

bc wtf so much bc to get value

[river nymph]

[spiral merlin]

sss nana havers and sss hanying havers can just solo so like

how much bc do you gotta put in to get value in this situation

too much

tho ig by this point youd never solo hanying

[zenith thorn]

eh its prolly fine

hero players have no clue how to play anyway

they prolly gonna play vergij wrong too :lmaocry:

[river nymph]

the real question is if we will get walter with dmc

[true pivot]

i need to retain, so i cant...

[spiral merlin]

more than likely

[zenith thorn]

retain legend?

[true pivot]

[river nymph]

[zenith thorn]

u fck whel retaining legend

[river nymph]

retain legend as r1

[spiral merlin]

i think i can wait to see how people are scoring before deciding if i wanna invest

[zenith thorn]

isnt legend population also abit dilluted?

[true pivot]

trying to retain legend as ss3 is horribly malding

[spiral merlin]

cause like how many people will be sss + sig + cub dmc? who care about meta and are good at the game and are not super whel

[silent raptor]

.

[river nymph]

read down

[true pivot]

we ARE in #📨・meta-help after all

and i cant beat the 3s whels

if i dont get dmc and mald my ass off

[zenith thorn]

rosetta rigor or ayla brilliance (if no rigor)

[river nymph]

disclaimer that rosetta needs ss to shred phys on qte

[forest knot]

BaNana

[zenith thorn]

bananami

[river nymph]

[zenith thorn]

storm prolly better than brilliance actually

since her def can stack to 25

if u lucky : lmaocry:

[hazy sandal]

[cold walrus]

I think (hope) eu malders mostly will not care about dmc tbh. Invest in vergil seems sensible, and dante is quite skippable due to nanami and lucia with vera aren't that bad. i saw full sss burn with lucia can get 11m at least. I personally gonna skip dmc completely for other units like selena, bianca (?), and so on. Dmc doesn't deserve any invest imo

[silent raptor]

what rank do i ayla to be good on phys?

[spiral merlin]

yea vergil invest if any

for ppc reasons too i imagine

[forest knot]

the racing of whales malders

[zenith thorn]

S rank is fine

your phys is cope till selena pianissimo

[river nymph]

s is fine, sss is better, you can also use nanami storm with her 5* weapon

[silent raptor]

getting her on release
i'm trying to be ready on most elements
at end of next patch i hope i can make most of these teams

how many ppc skuls to get 12 S ranks to SS

[fading kestrel]

ardeo

[fading kestrel]

12 * 500
6000

[river nymph]

would burn nana work in fire wz?

[true pivot]

yea

[fading kestrel]

useable cope strat
inferior to wata ofc

[river nymph]

also you prob want to do solo nana for lightning with luna and lilith qte bots

[silent raptor]

both ppc and wz or wz only?

[river nymph]

should work for both

[true pivot]

xenolao pls carry me next week ion

go go 20m

[river nymph]

[zenith thorn]

does he know

he doesn't know

[river nymph]

idek how to ion

[zenith thorn]

https://tenor.com/view/riddler-paul-dano-new-rockstars-thumbnail-does-he-know-he-doesnt-know-gif-27552850

[true pivot]

tap fasteer

[river nymph]

[fading kestrel]

[zenith thorn]

can u wantap my norman

[river nymph]

why

[zenith thorn]

i dont like norman

[river nymph]

[vapid salmon]

ss3 echo or ayla or save up to get sss lucid or lilith ?

[zenith thorn]

ss3 Ayla and alisa is absolutely useless

ss3 alisa maybe good for glacial

but it's less beneficial than just sss0 lucid or lillith

[true pivot]

s+ lilith when

[vapid salmon]

oki doki tyy

[silent raptor]

yo can you tell me why startrail is better than bridgent on fire wz

[still moat]

better shred application, better damage

allows u to rotate out of lucia

[raw swift]

Is startrail like tenebrion where u only need to trigger ignition once and her shred is fire until u swapp off to her

[still moat]

her shred is fire for 15s after she swaps off

[raw swift]

So no lucia solo

[still moat]

and if u qte her on like the 14s it will stay as fire shred for another 8 second

so 20s shred pretty much

[river nymph]

[raw swift]

Back to xeno

[verbal cloak]

what's a xeno

[analog cargo]

[river nymph]

[pine pier]

whats a good ppc build for starfarer (i dont have wantanabe or her sig)

[zenith thorn]

use Bridget instead

or ishmael if she isn't used

mech is absolutely worthless even compared to bridget

[warped axle]

[river nymph]

[zenith thorn]

bridget holds 4dv2ein

while your support holds 4shakes2guin

[kindred bobcat]

Whos the best to pick in next patch selector? Ss3 wata pr Ss3 qu

[zenith thorn]

wata ig

[true pivot]

crying

[fading kestrel]

https://tenor.com/view/kekwtf-gif-18599263

[river nymph]

bro what

pulling in genshin rn?

[true pivot]

yea

[river nymph]

thats crazy

[true pivot]

i accidentally got her weapon while i was trying to build pity

[river nymph]

cooked

[true pivot]

i dont have any primos atm

[river nymph]

[last blade]

is that xeno 😳

[true pivot]

i aint doing that shi

[river nymph]

no this is patrick

[river nymph]

yeah you gotta save for dmc

[true pivot]

i am not gonna spend lmao

if worse comes to worse ill just kiwi

account bricked anyways

[river nymph]

[buoyant hornet]

Uhhhh how much currency did babel give

[river nymph]

more time for s+ then

[buoyant hornet]

I missed babel 💀

Why tf does it end 3 days before the patch what

[indigo dirge]

You think it's it safe to get the Watanabe skin or is he going to be powercrept soon?

[true pivot]

naw i aint gonna mald on urs more just because i kiwied on mine 💀

[river nymph]

scam

[river nymph]

i personally dont have much faith in his longevity

[indigo dirge]

Oof. That's the only thing I really dislike about the accelerated patches is the faster meta fallout

[last blade]

hi patricc

[simple dew]

he still has quite a while before being crept

[river nymph]

i bet everyone would have said the same about lamia

and i think the fact that neither her nor wata have gotten a leap yet is very telling

[simple dew]

lamia became the 2nd lcw when you had sss lilith

[river nymph]

your point being?

lcw is still around, and got a leap

[rugged forum]

Is karenina blast meta

Ok ok what about ember

[obsidian dune]

no but daren is still meta

[river nymph]

[rugged forum]

Why do I not hear any karenina appreciation

She's good...

She literally becomes a bayblade in scire

Oops, accidentally showed my scire ✌️ lolll

[river nymph]

insane bp

[pine pier]

my bridget is only s since i missed luna patch is that ok

[zenith thorn]

sure

that's fine
her primary purpose is just to procc ein

[pine pier]

why is bridget better than starfarer

[graceful ruin]

What cub should i get? Or do i wait for the next patch?

[steady otter]

Every meta dps cub

[fleet sky]

is it really possible to get such a high simulated siege score (rank 1 guy) with SS wanshi, SS lilith and S karenina?

i'm rank 2 with sss lilith, sss wanshi and ss qu so it must be skill issue on my part

[simple dew]

correct

also that score is pretty low for lilith

[fleet sky]

oh. part of the reason is probably because no one has da vinci set equipped

[simple dew]

no its just purely skill issue

[spiral merlin]

lilith alone should be an easy 2.6m at least

sss ~2.9

[fleet sky]

is the trick to keep lilith on the field at all times? i've been using wanshi for 90% of it

because i thought his ult dmg is impressive

[spiral merlin]

with qte nuke units ~3.1m

[simple dew]

wanshi is ass for siege

[spiral merlin]

yes lilith is solo dps in siege

[simple dew]

lilith becomes the 2nd ishmael innsiege

[spiral merlin]

still no ish in eu siege sadge

[zenith thorn]

bridget shred is on qte
while mech requires her memory at minimum for qte shred

[fleet sky]

i really underestimated lilith

[simple dew]

what ult am i supposed to spam

[spiral merlin]

wdym

[simple dew]

on lilith

how many stacks

[spiral merlin]

oh

1 or 2 is fine

[simple dew]

[spiral merlin]

https://youtu.be/Z2nfagI9IJc

not my best run but it should get the message across

[warped axle]

why is crimson brick there 💀

oh wait its siege

[spiral merlin]

i think u mean crimson peak

[river nymph]

holy that line up is cracked

[spiral merlin]

the only time ill ever say that btw

[zenith thorn]

dalao

[spiral merlin]

but cw is goated in siege

[zenith thorn]

long qte hit?

[spiral merlin]

its just the qte nuke

[forest knot]

The boosted QTEs constant resets

[spiral merlin]

does numbers

[zenith thorn]

oh ye leaped cw

[river nymph]

almost 10mins tho 💀

[spiral merlin]

where is ish i need 16min

[forest knot]

@noble zinc what was your Dark IB rotation? I'm doing 24 25 but 1s behind

[warped axle]

imagine ishmael at siege tho

[fleet sky]

this might be a dumb question but what determines which characters are good for siege? is it the amount of ults they can do within a short span of time?

[spiral merlin]

pretty much

[fleet sky]

ic. i just watched that video you posted and it looks crazy

[feral pollen]

gb = qte spam

so you want to ult as much and as fast as possible

[fleet sky]

got it

[warped axle]

I wonder if New Bianca is locked to her signature weapon 💔

the 1 rot curse

[feral pollen]

given she has similar problem to stigmata with backloaded dmg i wouldn't be surprised if she was

[simple dew]

ult spam

[raw swift]

Lilith rot in siege is like 2-3 seconds

[forest knot]

Bianca with sig is 1 rot kek

[bright burrow]

noooo

[fresh plover]

so what exactly is the best partner for ish and luna for void WZ
assume my amplifiers are all sss except for 21, my tanks are SS generally speaking
ish is ss3, luna too

[raw swift]

Ayla Kaleido

[fresh plover]

ish and luna with sig and cot?

and then ayla with dvc guin eins

[mighty tusk]

her 2 rot takes more than 12 sec?

[forest knot]

no they heavily nerfed multple rot damage, remember the ult huge number nerfs

all the nerfed multipliers are loaded into max stacks damage

[raw swift]

Yes

[forest knot]

so now 2 rotations do less damage than 1 full stack rotation

[raw swift]

Bruh

Allat and scire still meta

[peak halo]

So we not saved about on field daren

[forest knot]

it helps SS0 a bit because SS0 was quite weak due to behind in number of ult counts

[mighty tusk]

kek, that means that a new dark tank can potentially outdmg her soon

[forest knot]

it levels the playing field vs 3S that can pump out a bunch of ults

[mighty tusk]

and I heard sss lilith still does better than ss0-ss3 bianca in ppc?

[raw swift]

Why'd they have to powercreep empy fitst anyway

[forest knot]

as a solo DPS yea, SSS Lilith is just efficient with damage dealing for longer periods of time

I think SS3 swap SSS Lilith is around as fast tho for QTE damage spam

her design rn is a bit awkward tho, 1 rot duration is only like 8s-9s

that leaves 6s-7s for Karen, which is too much

feels like it's leaving room for 3S Dark Tank passive

[fresh plover]

i mean
a new dark tank would have to be fairly bad for it to not be worth using for 6-7 seconds

[mighty tusk]

what's the highest dark score in wz with bianca in beta?

[fresh plover]

could be cool to have a team that actually uses all 3 characters meaningfully again

[forest knot]

it's not the matter of damage, it's that currently there's like 1-2s rotation gap to rotate back to Lilith after you're done with Bianca/Karen

[fresh plover]

yeah but that gap wont be there when daren gets replaced by an actually good character

[forest knot]

the point I was making is that the Dark tank would have to be released very quickly or Dark is in a bad feeling state for a few patches

with this current design

[mighty tusk]

oh and new waves in wz with daren's field is like....

not good

[forest knot]

no idea, 2.333 is like 9.5M I think, 233 is 8.5M, I haven't looked into current version 333/444 yet

[mighty tusk]

especially mid time-stop

[fresh plover]

man i cant deal with ishmael for wz
so many variations of her rotation and i cant remember ANY of them

[steady otter]

dont wz then

one tap

[peak halo]

Just learn one first
And master it
After start other rots

[peak halo]

Late

[icy otter]

Unless ur legend suffering even bad rotations are free in hero

[steady otter]

[mighty tusk]

especially with more casual players reaching hero

[steady otter]

mald just for promoting to legend
or u got slack bracket on legend

[mighty tusk]

me

never retain legend

[fresh plover]

3 million for nihil war zone

[peak halo]

Nah i just mald cuz fun
And legend promo just happening

[peak halo]

Ss0 team

[fresh plover]

ss3

[steady otter]

legend promo doesnt need mald too
depend on bracket

https://cdn.discordapp.com/emojis/1017938018235060344.gif

[fresh plover]

hero has been pushovers the last few weeks

[peak halo]

I know
My brcket seen like
Im with 15m
2nd with 12m

[zenith thorn]

last few weeks?

[steady otter]

3 m
not even close

[zenith thorn]

it's been wantap since wz change

[fresh plover]

the scores are legit lower than a while back

[peak halo]

U could go like 4m or max 5m
Iguess

[zenith thorn]

fr?

[fresh plover]

This was last week

[zenith thorn]

can u send pic
that's hilarious

[zenith thorn]

what tf

is this on reset bracket?

[fresh plover]

Second place went up to 10m

And that's about it

[fresh plover]

idk what you mean with this one

[zenith thorn]

did u join wz on daily reset

[fresh plover]

i usually play late

[steady otter]

i have no reason to mald

[zenith thorn]

k whel

[mighty tusk]

lol just one more

[steady otter]

https://tenor.com/view/wuwa-carlotta-cheecks-squeeze-squishy-gif-2882428430083543852

[frank kindle]

[hazy sandal]

[fresh plover]

i think the team i do the worst with is phys

[alpine moss]

sultan i kneel

[steady otter]

https://tenor.com/view/cat-fight-disco-catfight-funny-gif-19881715

[zenith thorn]

me n who

[steady otter]

kevin

[zenith thorn]

fck no

[steady otter]

kevin should be happy lamia got new costume

[mighty tusk]

looks like solo hanying score

[fresh plover]

i wish it was

[vague nebula]

how to ishmael rot

[mighty tusk]

idk
I dont use ishmael in void

[fresh plover]

i just do something wrong with either hangying or stigmata and idk what

[mighty tusk]

what's your invest though?

[vague nebula]

I don't believe that a wz malder doesn't use ishmael

[mighty tusk]

my ishmael is crippled

sigless and cubless

[vague nebula]

the pwowq invest

[mighty tusk]

just use wanshi

[vague nebula]

I wish I knew how to wanshi

[alpine moss]

first input is swapping her out for wanshi

[vague nebula]

nah should rephrase that. Bold of u to assume I know how to wanshi

[fresh plover]

wanshi is not that hard is he

[vague nebula]

nobody is hard

[fresh plover]

i forgot the notation yall use again
hanying: ss3 2 weapon resos (domain and dlt)
stigmata: ss3 1 weapon reso (glorious afterglow)
echo: sss and sig but no reso

[mighty tusk]

with that invest you can get atleast 3.6 mil

[fresh plover]

yes i am well aware

hence
i'm bad at the team

[vague nebula]

2.3 2.3 2.3 012 111
how much I can get?

[mighty tusk]

prob around 3.3-3.5 mil?

lack of domain decons on hanying really does make a diff

plus no sss alisa

[vague nebula]

I will be back with 1.5mil score

[mighty tusk]

this is with 2.32.33 122 111

[fresh plover]

btw for plasma it's better to give lilith lingya instead of her own cub right

[mighty tusk]

yes

[vague nebula]

[steady otter]

[fresh plover]

for ss3 it's either 2 slash ults and a full ult or 5 slash ults ideally?

[raw swift]

Usually her last 2 rots are 5slash

[frank kindle]

okay so i missed stuff

is it a rank or s rank?

[mighty tusk]

[fresh plover]

i guess the difference between the rots is just wave math

for plasma, does nanami use class skill or signature move level

[kindred bobcat]

Any one have a ss0 hanying physical rot

[spice kestrel]

do i buy this set for lilith

[feral pollen]

but this isn't lilith's mem set

[mighty tusk]

that's ishmael's memory set though

[vale raft]

Lilith: Daemonissa <:s_rank:1287636749052412026><:amplifier:1290613387197415467><:dark_element:1290613554923438102><:electroconvergence:1288090218922119181>

Main Support Sub-DPS Set

Usage

Support Sub-DPS

Game Modes

High Difficulty, Pain Cage, Warzone, Clash Reflection, Norman

Description

Recommended for all ranks
General DPS set

Memories

4x Barcelo
2x Cottie

Memory Resonances

Top Slot : 6x Any ATK+15 Variant
Bottom Slot: 6x Signature

Harmony Recommendation

Cottie

[fresh plover]

wait how exactly do you not run out of orbs on lilith in plasma wz

[peak halo]

Dlt?
But i heard not really need dlt on lilith on plasma

[fresh plover]

yeah that's what i'm confused about

i can charge 2 batteries, the third i am fully out of orbs

[peak halo]

My lilith is r3
So im able to keep dlt with all the buff tho

[warped axle]

correct

[simple dew]

ss0 5* haicma, trial pulao and trial noan whos the best for siege

[zenith thorn]

haicma

just let haicma do her big aoe

don't do the hold dodge

[fresh plover]

haicma can kinda do the solo buff

[warped axle]

u mean her execution?

the hold basic attack?

idk I kinda like shrek more

[slate gull]

[warped axle]

[peak halo]

No
Its the slash move after ult

If u hold dodge

[zenith thorn]

oh yeah hold ba

slash move thing
don't do that

just ult then swap out

[warped axle]

no way, execution is useless?

[zenith thorn]

i dont play siege anymore
@median shell siege dalao

[simple dew]

how do i use haicma

[zenith thorn]

spam 3p
ult
swap out

[simple dew]

what abt ult2

[zenith thorn]

that's what i meant by ult

the nuke

[fresh plover]

haicma can be optimized a lot

for siege

[simple dew]

how does one use pulao

[vague nebula]

[tight trellis]

[simple dew]

does haicma not have an execution

[rose yew]

not confirmed yet for the upcoming Haicma frame

[raw swift]

Decapitation

[simple dew]

how do i activate it

the bar is empty i hold basic and nothing

[zenith thorn]

did you even activate her counter and execution on upgrade tab

[simple dew]

oh

i forgor

[opaque ridge]

Ok u played my siege then

[zenith thorn]

past tense?

have i played your siege before?

[ocean dust]

is ishmael good as tank or amp? all my amps except lilith are s rank and i dont wanna build them as they are old. how good will ishmael work as amp for all teams?

[zenith thorn]

have YOU given me your acc :wtfshut:

[zenith thorn]

copium
worse than respective amplifier, but better than the A rank supports

[ocean dust]

oof

[tight trellis]

whats the new liv gonna be? ice dps?

[fading basin]

No one knows yet there only speculation

[raw swift]

PLEAAASEEE KILL DAREN OHHH MY DAYS

[tight trellis]

pls replace shukra ohyeaaa

[simple dew]

surely ice

[tight trellis]

manifesting it to be ice dps

[simple dew]

watch it be anything BUT ice

[raw swift]

No way

[simple dew]

looks lightning tbh

[feral pollen]

surely phys

[tight trellis]

watch it be new Annihilator

[simple dew]

fire tank

[feral pollen]

veronica is going to be fire tank

[simple dew]

she looks ice tho

[feral pollen]

phys for sure

[cold walrus]

she gets a glow affix

[simple dew]

true slash qte bot for sure

[tight trellis]

discord > dark tank, veronica > fire tank, liv > ice dps

[simple dew]

liv ice amp

[zenith thorn]

discord is A rank

[simple dew]

new copium scire ig

[tight trellis]

watch next gen A ranks powercreep current S ranks

[simple dew]

id kms

[tight trellis]

id kiwi

[simple dew]

violently shot a bullet into myself

[whole falcon]

violently shitting

[still elm]

Lucia build?

[vale raft]

Lucia: Pyroath <:s_rank:1287636749052412026><:attacker:1285839106240417803><:fire_element:1290613867365273630><:electroconvergence:1288090218922119181>

Main DPS Set

Usage

Main DPS

Game Modes

High Difficulty, Pain Cage, Warzone, Clash Reflection, Norman

Description

General DPS set
Used at all ranks

Memories

4x Heraclitus
2x Cottie

Memory Resonances

Top Slot : 6x Any ATK+15 Variant
Bottom Slot: 6x Signature

Harmony Recommendation

Cottie

[still elm]

thanks it wasn’t working

[simple dew]

for plasma its wilde harmo

[still elm]

hera 2456 ?

Orb1235

Or*

[median shell]

I'm too late

[still elm]

so 1235?

[tight current]

Fak 😔

How much weekly give me bc?

[lilac crescent]

bruh u couldve used orange tix instead of bc

[tight current]

Don't have any

[rose yew]

Aether should see this

[deep terrace]

what i can give her

memory

[rose yew]

Cuddles

Oh

I just went with this tbh

[true pivot]

discord will be an A rank ts or a burn attacker to surpass dmc trust

[outer lintel]

aw man that sucks...

[tight current]

I know 🫩

[outer lintel]

what will you choose?

[tight current]

Allot people say to get nanami

[lilac crescent]

who got from base s rank selector?

[outer lintel]

what did you get from standard?

[tight current]

Luna for my ss0 isma

[lilac crescent]

good enough

[tight current]

Next i wanna choose hanying for selena

Is that good or should i choose qu?

[lilac crescent]

u can only get hanying with this and base s rank banner

so u gotta choose between namami or hanying

next patch's selector only goes up till qu

[tight current]

Ohh so hanying doesnt show up?

[lilac crescent]

sadly no

[outer lintel]

no

[tight current]

Ah dang

[outer lintel]

it's so hard to choose one

[tight current]

Fr

So i should choose qu for next?

[fierce steeple]

What should I do if my Luna:laurel doesn't have her own cub? Do I just use other constructs cub?

[outer lintel]

I thought of using Rosetta instead of hanying but then I remembered I don't have enough to leap her

[lilac crescent]

either qu or watanabe

[tight current]

Damn alr thanks

[outer lintel]

cn are getting another s selector for half anni right? then surely we'll get it too

[vague nebula]

laurel never had her own pet

[lilac crescent]

also up to qu only

[fierce steeple]

Aw man

[outer lintel]

ye so we can get both wata and qu

[lilac crescent]

beautiful

[lilac crescent]

just solo selena

[vague nebula]

just use one of the ones that gives 10% dark dmg and extra dmg bonus. like Noctua.

[frank kindle]

considering that nanami is better, just go qu

[lilac crescent]

oh yea lmao nanami can zaza for fire

[opaque ridge]

can someone zaza my ppc?

[frank kindle]

[frank kindle]

don't worry, won't be as bad as my bricked shorthalt

[feral pollen]

wtf

were you doing shortmald with starfarer or what

[cyan pollen]

i got the same score

[frank kindle]

nahh, i just did two zones other day and figured out i could use nanami instead of bridget and oh well lil brain fart

[feral pollen]

[solemn spoke]

6k points away🥀

[frank kindle]

i'd could get it, but eh didnt want to mald and forgor i can bananami with my pyro. we live we learn

[solemn spoke]

next week trust

[frank kindle]

are u ready for glacio next week?

|| jk jk, unless? ||

[peak halo]

No
But i ready ice light and plasma
Finally in legend

[nova forum]

*next next week

[sly geyser]

nah this can't be

also why saving?

[frank kindle]

[opaque ridge]

9hrs to reset

[frank kindle]

[unreal coyote]

I fck up,

I.... use Liltih on the trailblazer without knowing that lilith boss is dark weakness

[true pivot]

just use an off element team for the lowest difficulty lilith boss

[unreal coyote]

I cant use lilith cuz I completed trailblazer

Should I just use lamia?

[true pivot]

oh...

yea just use lamia

if you have enough investments on her she is actually faster than lilith

[unreal coyote]

Welp ig i have prep issue

[odd roost]

Can SSS dante reach 600k for shorthand?

[unreal coyote]

Sadly i dont

[unreal coyote]

In what? Fire content then no

Affix content

[odd roost]

Dante is good for fire content tho

He's not like vergil

[feral pollen]

dante is not fire unit bro

[heavy marlin]

Should i pick qu shukra or im going SS3 my wata? I don't have qu

[unreal coyote]

No, he's not built on fire content

[feral pollen]

he's ignition unit

[unreal coyote]

Both vergil and dante are built as a affix dps

[nova forum]

BruH

[odd roost]

I know but how much can he score against shorthand at SSS that's what I'm askin

[unreal coyote]

You can't use dante outside ignition content

[unreal coyote]

Hmmm, tbh idk cuz i dont have cn acc

[odd roost]

I'm probably gona use SS Vera for Fire content anyways, just curious how SSS dante performs on UPPC

[nova forum]

can i use lilith for hell tb

@true pivot wot u use on hell tb?

ice, void, dark

[unreal coyote]

Oh yeah, on void team use luna, ish and any amp

[still moat]

Just use Ishmael for tb

[true pivot]

i dont even remember

i just one tap and gone

[forest knot]

https://www.bilibili.com/video/BV1t4TCzuEqK/?spm_id_from=333.337.search-card.all.click

Dante Ults relatively quickly so you get to use his boosted QTEs fast as well, should be fine on all Fire PPC bosses

[fierce steeple]

Are there any cubs for dark damage?

[forest knot]

Lilith CUB is fine

[noble zinc]

@forest knot one with ish luna?

[forest knot]

ye

altho I think I just straight don't have enough damage, I need the 40s buff on my last ult for sure

[vague nebula]

Noctua

[mild egret]

Since when yommie play ppc lmao

[normal sierra]

are we supposed to use this wilde memory on someone at beamu wz?

[ripe stag]

IT'S OVER

[kindred bobcat]

Tf

[ripe stag]

Ignition beats Plasma in score now

[kindred bobcat]

20m

[normal sierra]

why are you so obsessed with giga kraken whel scores?

[odd roost]

His SS3 comin in handy lpl

[ripe stag]

It's not about scores
It's about Dante being too powerful

[whole falcon]

just pull better

[ripe stag]

[raw swift]

20m

[normal sierra]

who cares? still trash unit

[whole falcon]

im igniting it

[forest knot]

Ignition beat Plasma a while ago

it's just the 20M mark that is new

[odd roost]

Plasma how much was that?

[forest knot]

18.5 iirc back in April

[mighty tusk]

as if you're gonna be in a bracket with full s+

[ripe stag]

That was beta no?

[ripe stag]

Got into one once in legend
10th place seemed like a nice place

[deft apex]

anyone help me fill this in with what's missing pls? https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1iYSwVaSAbt5M9naJxfe9xQZqdjbic7BNdpbhHkaGrQI/edit?usp=sharing

[mighty tusk]

you're demoting either way. Embrace it

[ripe stag]

I'm gonna go legend this week so slack

[normal sierra]

where are the wz balds when I need em?

[ripe stag]

Exam week so can't mald
Still surprised no one outscored me
There's 2 players with SSS0 Ishmael

they didn't do warzone i guess

[odd roost]

Dante being too powerful? I LOVE IT!!

GIVE THAT MAN ANOTHER BUFF!!

[normal sierra]

you a wz bald, Ezra, so answer meh
do I use wilde on anyone in ion team?

[odd roost]

Is ur balter SSS?

[ripe stag]

Pyroath on 2 wilde

4 wilde is meh

[ripe stag]

Nah

[deft apex]

pyro yea

[normal sierra]

ohh oki. dankje

[ripe stag]

4 Sig 2 Cottie 2 Wilde

Change harmony basically

[odd roost]

Sig weapons?

[ripe stag]

Yes

[odd roost]

My SS3+5* balter feels like she's not doing any damage lol

It's hanying who clears 5-6 waves but balter only does 2-3

[normal sierra]

ohh, wait
I can't promote and don't wanna brick the 2nd place from promoting, so ima just wait before doing my ion run

[quiet basalt]

Yo, wtf, the future looks bright cant wait for whats coming, man eos plan to stop waiting 1+ year for new things IS godly 🤣

[acoustic wigeon]

What reso and memories to I give Ishmael

[tight trellis]

promoting to legend next week. time to brick myself and go back to hero

[simple dew]

how to use pulao

[tight trellis]

we still using pulao in 2025

[simple dew]

siege 😔

[forest knot]

https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1H31srmGzDtOIOknLLwi1qnEmkZViwoh67-UUNsJq17I/edit?usp=sharing

something like this, some I don't recall

[deft apex]

no worries, thanks anyway

[simple dew]

nvm screw pulao haicma solo for the win

[normal sierra]

how does one solo with haicma?

[nova forum]

500k score?

[simple dew]

is she supposed not to

[nova forum]

if it's with trial unit just do swap

[normal sierra]

I dunno lul
she eats orbs like candy so fast, dunno if she can sustain that for long

[simple dew]

its my haicma

[nova forum]

sss?

[simple dew]

ss

wtf are these a ranks on siege 😭

[noble zinc]

@forest knot builds are like
Lilith barcelo/cottie GS/Dlt
Ish soloth/bathlon DD/Sar class skill memo🦌
Luna Vinci ein gloria

Start with ish ult + 2*3ping for deer buff
Lilith goes like 2/3/4/4stacks
Also need to BA weave for orbs

[forest knot]

oh you don't swap

[noble zinc]

no

[forest knot]

I'm swapping, okay interesting

[simple dew]

matrix exists

[quiet basalt]

Yo are they counting dante as the free S rank? Cause it seems like we getting a lot of premium ones one after another

[normal sierra]

I eat all orbs 3 times before matrix can come up again lul

[nova forum]

you do know that the optimal gameplay requires her to use 3x4 orbs?

[acoustic wigeon]

I believe that to be the case

[mighty tusk]

he is technically free (1 copy), just do the needed mission

[simple dew]

is s dante even good

[mighty tusk]

[vale raft]

Dante

Skill - SS

Heart for Humanity

Level 1 - Unlocked at S5

Casting Sin Devil Trigger and Red Hot Night - Burst, and Dance Macabre and Real Impact with full Devil Trigger Gauge, triggers all available QTEs.

Level 2 - Unlocked at SS

After casting Sin Devil Trigger - Sin Inferno or Sin Devil Trigger - Judgement and switching out of the battlefield, Dante enters Off-Field State, launching an attack every 2s that deals 2000% Fire DMG. After 4 attacks, Dante exits the state. Base DMG of Sin Devil Trigger - Phantom Jab, Sin Devil Trigger - Flamboyant Barrage, and Sin Devil Trigger - Extinguished Shadow increases by 120%.

[mighty tusk]

just solo nanami bro

[quiet basalt]

But he aint like old free s ranks, he is an affix one not really much

[deft apex]

that misc scire one is probably pulse I reckon

[quiet basalt]

If we start getting element and affix its hell

[forest knot]

nah it's Scire, the 15% Dark DMG is Laurel

I remember now

[sly geyser]

bruh this game was hell since its cn release back in 2019

[forest knot]

but the name is Blazing Radiance tho

hmm guess I can look it up

[simple dew]

how do i use rozen leap

[sly geyser]

Blazing Radiance ?

More like Shite Hell

[forest knot]

@deft apex

my ass that is a Dark name

[sly geyser]

this is meta help bro go to #📨・general-help for casual questions

[deft apex]

[forest knot]

yea the other one is Laurel

then

[deft apex]

best part is that mech's weather is also blazing something

There's also thunderclap as a fire weather

[frank kindle]

what is ts score now

[river nymph]

[ripe stag]

No idea

[frank kindle]

@barren plank do u remember top ts score?

[heavy marlin]

How many vouchers do i need SS3 to SSS?

[river nymph]

you need 63 shards

[golden star]

SS3 Lucia Plasma @true pivot I love you yomm

[fading kestrel]

63 x 804
Do the math

[river nymph]

depends on how many discounted you can buy

[golden star]

Marry me already

[river nymph]

oi get in line

[golden star]

I'm first

[river nymph]

[warped axle]

why Lotus doesn't have leap

[true pivot]

what do i have to do with this

[river nymph]

[true pivot]

the hell?

[fading kestrel]

yomm my darling

when kiwi

[river nymph]

[true pivot]

yall are goofy af

[nova forum]

BruH

[frank kindle]

okay

[river nymph]

[frank kindle]

3s guy scored half mill lower than me

wtf is this SLACC bracket

[river nymph]

youre s+?

[frank kindle]

no, i used half baked stuff ss0

[river nymph]

[frank kindle]

that's his stuff, everyone sig r2 + cub

[nova forum]

look at these whel

[frank kindle]

and mf scored only 3m in nihil

and 2.7m in plasma

[true pivot]

????????????????????????

[river nymph]

they must not know how to activate ion

[frank kindle]

https://tenor.com/view/kk-gif-15803140109120205266

[nova forum]

can't do speedkill on knight tb with ishmael

[river nymph]

ew ppc

[nova forum]

fck this

i'm returning back to my roots and gonna use wanshi

nvm

just killed it with ishmael

[golden star]

You made me go from 4m to 6.3m I love you

I'll touch you agressively

I'll touch you till your body shatters

[gray beacon]

Prob some guy who has money and and plays casually and spends like its nothing and learns basic rotations

[distant wren]

right? how tf is that dark weather lmfao

[true pivot]

what in the fk

[golden star]

I'll be in legend next week yay

And then the whales will gobble me up yay

[true pivot]

dont worry, im kiwing anyways

[fading kestrel]

https://tenor.com/view/kekwtf-gif-18599263

[rocky wedge]

Kill it with fire

I will smack your PC or mobile with sledgehammer

[river nymph]

[true pivot]

nuh uh

[fading kestrel]

LMFAOOOOOOOOOOO

[rocky wedge]

Overrated

Xd

[true pivot]

ehh

[rocky wedge]

Be smarter then that Bs smh

I mean himeko literally looks better, just doesn't have the leather link

Kink*

[true pivot]

true

[river nymph]

[rocky wedge]

Ye rip

[true pivot]

im still a himeko stan regardless (cept hsr, fk that game garbage stuff)

[rocky wedge]

Did you see Lupo or lupa idk her name in wuwa but damn

[true pivot]

i dont play wuwa

[rocky wedge]

Red head lancer 😭😭😭

[true pivot]

nobody in there interest me tbh

[rocky wedge]

To each their own

What should interest is here is pgr meta

[true pivot]

my laptop will have a meltdown if i get anymore games in there kek

[rocky wedge]

I love float damage

[true pivot]

dunno why they put out bianca again

[nova forum]

BruH

[true pivot]

like, so many characters you choose her, and dark attacker no less

[rocky wedge]

Cause she my wife

[nova forum]

wth was the button input for ts

[rocky wedge]

They took her out of Phys early so ofc

[river nymph]

solons wife

[rocky wedge]

I will 1v1 that mf

[river nymph]

[true pivot]

bruh like

add some new characters

[foggy ridge]

mmm

[rocky wedge]

Wonder if he is good at the game actually

[foggy ridge]

i acutally dont know how to approach dark ib ngl

[rocky wedge]

They did but after, probably can't say here the details not sure

[foggy ridge]

lilith is nearing wanshi levels of rotation variance

[rocky wedge]

It was shown in CN livestream tho ig

[warped axle]

what's the weather tomorrow guys

[foggy ridge]

a risk of rain

[odd roost]

Yeah But I'll only do it after update for event tasks

[rocky wedge]

Tho actually not sure if "new" 2 can be current chars, one I think is new

[true pivot]

discord and veronica sure, but whats the point if they are instantly releasing vera and bianca after their previous frame gets sent to valhalla

[rocky wedge]

Also need Rosetta frame gawd damn

[river nymph]

[warped axle]

thank you, how about wz?

[foggy ridge]

uh hmm

i think?

[river nymph]

bad week

[true pivot]

istg like, every 1 male they release like 5 female constructs

[mighty tusk]

oh look, I can try selena in TS

[deft apex]

Can u check that hyper charge weather pls

[mighty tusk]

prob wont outscore ion but....

[true pivot]

wait, selena is out this week?

[river nymph]

ye

[true pivot]

huh.

[mighty tusk]

25th

[river nymph]

[rocky wedge]

Kinda, next but close enough

Still Sunday 🥹

[deft apex]

Ok so i guess the hyper charge without the 1 red orb buff doesnt exist anymore

[hasty bluff]

i used blue tickets on the base banner only to get an older char. will i be able to get enough pulls on base banner before the next base banner reset thing(where you can pick a char)

[foggy ridge]

oh wait a second ur right

HAHA

[mighty tusk]

we dont even know the next time the base banner resets

[rocky wedge]

One hasn't been announced yet I think so ya good

[river nymph]

[hasty bluff]

i see

[rocky wedge]

Also the new free S selector should of been up to han

Idk what people gonna do without Han and Luna

[hasty bluff]

i got greedy thinking maybe a wanshi copy but got chrome instead

[river nymph]

lol

[rocky wedge]

Ouch Dx

[nova forum]

BruH

[hasty bluff]

greed is bad

[rocky wedge]

Well it could of been anything ig

[foggy ridge]

im guessing it would reset every anniversary?

[rocky wedge]

Next reset of this could be next year for all we know

[nova forum]

ofc the sheet has lilith for hell tb

[true pivot]

gonna kiwi and play cookie run kingdom, eternal sugar looks nice