📨・meta-help

[raw swift]

Good work

[dull moon]

physical is wack

[still moat]

[dull moon]

i just got echo sss and the rotation feels wonky now

[warped axle]

https://tenor.com/view/punishing-gray-raven-pgr-noan-pgr-pgr-noan-noan-punishing-gray-raven-gif-3458117265938338569

[dull moon]

my balter is only ss

good thing selena is coming next week, going to try and get her ss3 i think

[pure fern]

meanwhile me only 1.7m

what team are you using for nihil and what investment?

[dull moon]

https://huaxu.app/na/players/17076558/characters @pure fern ishmael, luna ob and lilith

[pure fern]

3S ish 👀

nvm then

[warped axle]

I hope I could do 2 mil in phys wz with poverty selena and hanying

[dull moon]

f2p btw

[raw swift]

You should try running Ayla instead

[pure fern]

this one doesnt looks like f2p tho

[dull moon]

shes 1 off of sss

i might use my freebie on her

[pure fern]

[ripe stag]

......fake F2p

Also account looks more deserted than Sahara

[raw swift]

Idk looks nice to me

This is probably f2p maybe low spender

[pure fern]

oh wait you old player and comeback to whale

[dull moon]

yes i came back like a month ago

i did have a stint when pc client came

[pure fern]

and whale like a crazy

[dull moon]

i used my bp shards poorly

[ripe stag]

That's not F2p
He spends on coatings

[ripe stag]

RIP

[dull moon]

i shouldve used them on ayla

[ripe stag]

No

[pure fern]

lilith or wanshi better i think

[raw swift]

Looks like u could've used them on lilith and wanshi...

[ripe stag]

Wanshi and Lilith first

[dull moon]

maybe i used them on wanshi

[ripe stag]

https://huaxu.app/ap/players/12605149/characters

This is what F2p account looks like

[dull moon]

wanshi is like 30 away from sss

nvm 19 away

[pure fern]

sussy

[ripe stag]

I only have Bianca white

[raw swift]

Uhuh....

[pure fern]

real f2p?

[raw swift]

It's fek

[pure fern]

me real f2p

[ripe stag]

Pieroo funded it

So that I don't skip CW

[pure fern]

https://huaxu.app/ap/players/22874422/characters this is real f2p account

[ripe stag]

I actually would have skipped CW

[raw swift]

Me too

[ripe stag]

But yea
The investments done are all F2p possible

[dull moon]

so wanshi is in bp shards uwu

and lilith too

[ripe stag]

Lilith and Wanshi yea

[pure fern]

ayla too

why do i feel like vera will come on voucher soon

[cold walrus]

Wait fr?

[still moat]

No lol

[ripe stag]

Wanshi and Lilith are BP voucharable? Yea

[cold walrus]

Since when?

[pure fern]

since wanshi release and since lilith release

[cold walrus]

That's voucher shop, not bp shards thing

[raw swift]

Not the chosen bp shards smh

[pure fern]

oh

dunno about bp im f2p i dont buy bp

[deep terrace]

what is thi sfor

[raw swift]

6 starMemory

[cold walrus]

You can buy memories using it, but today it is another currency for memory resonance

[steady otter]

https://tenor.com/view/wuwa-wuthering-waves-encore-anke-gif-17723440375205425992

[chilly trail]

Wz healing

[fluid gulch]

LMAO

[steady otter]

bro, literally last sec

[spiral merlin]

@still moat @worthy gulch lol sss cub diff

[still moat]

gg

[cold walrus]

Sss cub gives 1m score

[worthy gulch]

pop off king 👑

[still moat]

forgot about R2 pyro smh

[worthy gulch]

SSSed Pyro cub right?

[spiral merlin]

thresholds so tight idk if just r3 will do much

[spiral merlin]

ye

i remembered i could scrap old cubs

and use a bit of ore

worth it

[still moat]

o r3

[worthy gulch]

Pyro deserves it

[upbeat orchid]

What's the best way to get hypertune crystals? I can never have enough of the Beta ones, and it seems to take a few weeks of doing Dorms tasks to get enough Hypertune Crystals for one character

[opaque ridge]

best way? whel

[vague nebula]

guild siege

[tight current]

Who should i choose? I dont have hanying nanami lucia

[river nymph]

clash reflection has some too

[thorn bramble]

Nahh livestream is crazy

Where is kamui bro im quitting this Game 💀💀💀

[thorn bramble]

Nanami

[sly geyser]

pick me

[sly geyser]

who ?

[river nymph]

hypertune crystals

[fluid gulch]

I'll pick you

[sly geyser]

ah

[sly geyser]

[fluid gulch]

[vague nebula]

do it

[dull moon]

How much USD to get Dante and vergil ss3 cub and weapon

[opaque ridge]

yes

[fluid gulch]

ded chat

all whales sleeping

[fading kestrel]

[cyan pollen]

guys

does anyone have qu shukra

please add me and make it support in norman

#1 qu hater used to do this for me but hes gone

[left garnet]

These are my units I just got back to the game yesterday after not playing for like 400+ days

Is there someone i should priotize thats used in the new teams

[summer topaz]

what region?

[cyan pollen]

europe

[summer topaz]

sorry I’m on na

[cyan pollen]

its alright ty

[fluid gulch]

gimme the id

@cyan pollen

[cyan pollen]

21474333

ty bro

[fluid gulch]

check

[cyan pollen]

alright its there

thanks again

[fluid gulch]

np

[fluid gulch]

Everyone here is powercrept for good

[left garnet]

I see

I hear there's a ticket coming next patch for selector who's should I grab then to start

[river nymph]

[left garnet]

Building back up

Also assuming the game is still like jt was can still still get every banner unit every patch?

[fluid gulch]

Yes

[cyan pollen]

qu shukra

[fluid gulch]

Or watanabe Epitaph

[cyan pollen]

i got watanabe from the blue ticket banner

[fluid gulch]

But he might be getting replaced soon

[left garnet]

Ok also for the current patch there's like 3 days left in the banner should I try tog rind ti get that character

[cyan pollen]

never used him 💔

[fluid gulch]

Nah, no point, you won't get her

[left garnet]

I see

[fluid gulch]

Even if you do, she BADLY needs Luna Oblivion

[left garnet]

Ah

[cyan pollen]

focus on getting selena and her weapon

[left garnet]

Are these all limited banner units or are they in the blue ticket banner too

I thibk I saw in a video you can select a blue ticket banner unit

Once a patch

[fluid gulch]

yes you can

[fluid gulch]

No

[cyan pollen]

not once a patch but sometimes they give us a blue ticket selector

[left garnet]

Oh

[fluid gulch]

Standard banner selector actually reseted this patch

[left garnet]

I see i redownloaded yesterday so idk if I even got that

[fluid gulch]

1 year later after it's appearence

So we have to wait and see if it resets once a year

[fluid gulch]

Everyone got that

[left garnet]

Kk

[fluid gulch]

They will appear on standard banner 2 patches after their debut

[left garnet]

Ok

And should I just prioritize finishing all the campaign side story etc

Cause there's alot more now the last time I was playing the newest one was Lee hyperrreal

Story

[cyan pollen]

no priorizite everything else

[left garnet]

Lol

What's everything else

[cyan pollen]

mostly weeklies and the permanent events so you can save a bit for dmc collab

permanent events give orange tickets which you use to pull instead of black cards

[fluid gulch]

Just speedrun it for rewards, you need em

[cyan pollen]

the story is too good for you to speedrun it ngl

[outer lintel]

Speedrun now and then watch it from yt (if there is story yt)

[left garnet]

Lol real

[ripe stag]

Congratulations

IGNITION BROKE 20M SCORE

[fluid gulch]

What the fck

[ripe stag]

It's over

[fluid gulch]

Did they revert Dante's nerf or what???

[fluid gulch]

I need a video, I do NOT believe you

[ripe stag]

https://b23.tv/i33RFcS

【挑战不可能！战区首个2000w成功达成！-哔哩哔哩】

[fluid gulch]

[ripe stag]

[ripe stag]

It's over

[fluid gulch]

I guess it is over after all

I WILL GET GAPPED BY THE FCKING DANTE

[ripe stag]

Time to get rekt by Dante users

In fire and Ignition

[fluid gulch]

Lucia still dominates in fire tho

[ripe stag]

Dante too strong to be powercrept now

[fluid gulch]

And I'm SSSing Pyro next patch, so I'm good

[ripe stag]

Whale

[fluid gulch]

Just gotta pray I don't lose on arrival

[ripe stag]

Isn't there 100% ?

[fluid gulch]

Then you gotta make new burn dps even stronger than him, that's simple

[fluid gulch]

I got 42 pull in arrival

[ripe stag]

They can't do that rn
Power balance

[fluid gulch]

Then we're cooked

[tight trellis]

Damn dante cooking with that 20m wz

[odd roost]

Hell yeah!!! SSS dante!!

[outer lintel]

we'll get one free copy right?

and then gacha or store?

[river nymph]

guys skip dmc

[tight trellis]

Fk yea. Skip selena vera for dmc broz

Total 40m wz score ignite/ts here we goo

[tardy flint]

Best build for damage for lucid dreamer???

[outer lintel]

Dante will be replacing pyroath in the fire team?

[deft apex]

no

[stray siren]

Skip vera for Dante

[shy jackal]

4 liston 4 chen jiyuan

You can go to #📨・bot-info and do /build for questions like these in the future

[tardy flint]

Ok phew I got the build right

[feral pollen]

i guess my balls are safe

[stray siren]

[river nymph]

[shrewd cosmos]

Vera, not selena

or well, up to you

[tight trellis]

Bricking my account for these 2 coatings ❤️❤️

[feral pollen]

L move

only upper one is worth bcs

wait this isn't general-help

[tribal bluff]

agreed

[spiral merlin]

whaduhell

[true pivot]

technically it is meta

you wouldnt wanna blind your eyes now, would you

[fading kestrel]

[tight trellis]

[river nymph]

[true pivot]

ignition being the first to break 20m is concerning

[normal sierra]

you all talk as if there would be more than 5 people total on globlul who would be able to get those scores

[stray siren]

Alex, Yomm, Xeno and Claire, I bet

[frail hinge]

Eh?

Not TS?

[frail hinge]

What in the hell

[true pivot]

[noble zinc]

20mil when?

[frail hinge]

We'll hold you to this 20mil expectation

[whole falcon]

danteh

we need to do ignition warzone danteh

[true pivot]

yall are insane

[frail hinge]

Says the person boutta run for 20mil wz

[true pivot]

i didnt even get 16m ion tf you think im going for 20m

[fluid gulch]

You gotta believe it

[frail hinge]

Believe in yourself

[true pivot]

yall do it then

[frail hinge]

Dw nana has a small window of failure probably it'll be less than 500 resets for sure

[frail hinge]

Erm

[frail hinge]

My name isn't here

Who's Claire though

[fluid gulch]

Fund me then

[true pivot]

i was also funded bruh

funded a s+ account

[solemn spoke]

its time to raise funds for a gf mfers

eos soon

[frail hinge]

[river nymph]

what about a bf?

[true pivot]

[still moat]

[fluid gulch]

https://tenor.com/view/woody-woody-toy-story-sora-kh3-kh-gif-27223516

[buoyant hornet]

I only have 1 spouse and his name is

(idek)

[shy jackal]

wata wedding suit coating when kuro

[outer lintel]

is wep Harmony necessary for lilith

[dull moon]

do you think if we start saving during this event moving forward to dmc collab we will have enough for basic invest for dante and vergil?

[solemn spoke]

rip forced arranged marriage

[buoyant hornet]

Let's get married instead

[buoyant hornet]

It's not necessary for base functionality but it's a big improvement in her buffing capabilities and/or personal damage

[solemn spoke]

are you gay egyptian

[buoyant hornet]

Yeah lol

[solemn spoke]

must suck to live there no

gotta blend in with the crowd

[buoyant hornet]

Yeah honestly it has a lot of issues

It's a big part of the reason I plan to leave here tbh

There's some hidden communities and safe spaces even here in egypt but that doesn't make things magically easy lol

(better than nothing at least)

[river nymph]

[gilded flint]

for plasma beam, would lingya be a better choice as cub for lillith rather than her sig cub?

or do the extra orbs not help that much

[still moat]

Depends on invest

Max invest plasma can go with lilith cub cause Lucia doesn't need the first orb and she kills every early wave at s+ anyway

[frank kindle]

[gilded flint]

bye bye lingya and hello billie

[solemn spoke]

if u ever need to vent dms

[gilded flint]

when I start plasma rot with lilith, why does pyroath directly enter the blue orb state? No hold ult 1 can be done

[buoyant hornet]

I didn't recognize you xeno LMAO

[gilded flint]

nvm im dumb, didnt know lilith ult 2 does stuff

[buoyant hornet]

Ty :)

[buoyant hornet]

The 8% buff tho

[river nymph]

[still moat]

8% edb only for first Lucia swap

[buoyant hornet]

It's been a minute how've you been sir

[still moat]

If it doesn't affect wave progression then no need for lingya

[river nymph]

i relapsed on pgr

[buoyant hornet]

Is max invest forced to do Lilith>nana>lucia or something

[deft apex]

What made u come back

[buoyant hornet]

Damn lmao I was considering quitting too but I'm giving it another chance for now

And might take a break and see if it makes me miss the game or nah

[river nymph]

i missed you guys

[still moat]

Nana > ( lilith > Lucia > lilith > nana > Lucia > lilith > nana repeat )

Doesn't have to be max invest to do this

[deft apex]

[still moat]

Pretty sure ss0 plasma should do this too

[deft apex]

We missed u too

[river nymph]

[buoyant hornet]

Damn we missed you too fr

[river nymph]

as much as i like to dunk on this game, i gotta admit it is pretty peak

[gilded flint]

Does lilith never ult 2 in plasma beam, watching a few vids on rot and dont see anyone doing it

[buoyant hornet]

I've seen that done before but unfortunately it does require dlt Lilith and idk about sacrificing an amp reso for that

[buoyant hornet]

True

[still moat]

Just get R3 lilith

[buoyant hornet]

Depends on what strat you're going for

[river nymph]

its better for lucia to activate the gauge, Lilith just fills it

[buoyant hornet]

There's like 700 different ion strats

[buoyant hornet]

Fk whel

[gilded flint]

List them please

jk jk

[buoyant hornet]

I'd rather kill myself

Just thinking about it gives me a headache

[river nymph]

[river nymph]

what ion invest do you have?

[gilded flint]

2.322.3 101 101

[river nymph]

[gilded flint]

nana be ss3 somewhat soon

[river nymph]

need someone in here who knows that invest

[spiral merlin]

This is whale help

Nobody knows that invest

[noble zinc]

You go 2ult nana/ classic SS3 lucia then need dlt
can cope if you reduce nana field time unlikely feels will be better

If you follow SS0 Lucia stat no Lilith dosent need dlt ult 2 need it's useful as well for wave clears

*no ult 2 Lilith for SS3 lucia

[gilded flint]

Im following empress ss3 plasma beam opener, and I dont have enough energy for the first slash, Im also waiting for atk after hitting the ground after red orbs

I did switch to 4 wilde, is that why, or am is it a skill issue

[noble zinc]

2cottie 2wilde

Use

[gilded flint]

is 4 wilde an SSS thing?

[buoyant hornet]

Zex does

[noble zinc]

I don't know whel invest

[buoyant hornet]

4 what

Who spread that demonic misinfo to you 😭😭

[ebon void]

Does anyone have toturials on how to use the ultima slash of bianca correctly?

[river nymph]

4 wilde is never a thing

[ebon void]

Isn't it suppose to make her deal more damage with ultima slash, why does she deals less damage everytime i use it?

[gilded flint]

🥺

[buoyant hornet]

Where exactly are you using it

What gamemode/stage

[ebon void]

Warzlne

[river nymph]

[buoyant hornet]

Physical wz or Ultima zone

[ebon void]

Phisical

[river nymph]

ultima slash =/= physical

[ebon void]

Oh...

[river nymph]

it is a separate zone

[buoyant hornet]

That's why she's doing less damage then

[ebon void]

[buoyant hornet]

Affix dmg output is SEPARATE from its mother element

It benefits from MOST of the buffs and shred of its mother element

But the actual dmg output is considered a different element entirely

And warzone has big dmg penalties on off-element damage

[slate gull]

[ebon void]

How about on ppc, is it good or nah?

[buoyant hornet]

Usually still no unless it's specifically an ultima slash boss

There are some niche cases depending on your acc and teams/team investment

Where you could get a better score using affixes rather than the intended element

But that's purely because plasma/glaciation have huge dmg multipliers on the affix DPS's kit

[slate gull]

selena glacio too much

[forest knot]

No, reordering Lilith and Nana loses you like 4-5s to wait for Lilith CD on the first rotation, SS0 Plasma tries to keep up with SS3 by doing 5 Lucia swaps so you can get 5 slash ults in. That's too much of a time loss and they alr have no time, you can do that if you're only doing 4 swaps tho

[ebon void]

Oh okay thanks

[buoyant hornet]

Feel free to ping if you have any further questions :)

[forest knot]

Try Ulting at the start of Lilith's rotation to get orbs back and reduce Nana to 1.5 rotations

[buoyant hornet]

No not always

[buoyant hornet]

I could give it a shot

[slate gull]

what's nana 1.5 rotation?

[zenith thorn]

so dalao

[forest knot]

Swap > 3p > slam immediately and ult > 3px2 > Slam and swap

Next swap > 3p + 1p (or 3px2) > Ult > 3px2 > yellow basic attack till full > slam then ult

[slate gull]

ahhh i see, okie 👌

is this good for 3s rot too?

[forest knot]

Dunno if there's time, it's like 9s still

[spiral merlin]

yea anything other than the standard 1 nana rota and its time wasting

for sss

[slate gull]

okie, i'll stick to 1 rot then. good to know anyway

[kindred bobcat]

Anyone have a nihil rot with ss3 ishmael

[cyan pollen]

how can one clear cursed wave in abyssal torrent

the bosses literally kill me with one hit and take 3 ultimates for 1 bar of health to go down

[slate gull]

get strike hawk buff

iirc

[cyan pollen]

huh

[river nymph]

do you know how the buffs work in cursed waves?

[cyan pollen]

yeah

wdym how they work they just buff

[slate gull]

[river nymph]

well you said huh

[buoyant hornet]

There's very abusable buffs you always wanna prioritize

[cyan pollen]

idk which buff is strike hawk buff

[spiral merlin]

strike hawk and liv buffs are both op iirc

[spiral merlin]

get strike hawk members

[river nymph]

[buoyant hornet]

No strike hawk member will ever be good at cursed waves

Because lucid dreamer isn't even in its roster and he's the only good one altogether

[river nymph]

is lucid even in cw?

[spiral merlin]

u dont want to actually play them

[buoyant hornet]

He isn't

[spiral merlin]

just have them for buff

[buoyant hornet]

Its roster stopped at lamia iirc

[buoyant hornet]

Oh yeah that

[forest knot]

Strike Hawk level 2 caps damage taken

[spiral merlin]

so you cant cheese with a mode not designed for powercreep

[river nymph]

[cyan pollen]

so no one shot from now?

[forest knot]

Yep, unless multihit attacks

[buoyant hornet]

@cyan pollen use crimson weave, her slam has a broken bug that creates a long lasting super strong hitbox

With enough roguelite buffs you can finish entire stages in one slam

[cyan pollen]

ive seen it it worked on my last run but it didnt wanna work again

[buoyant hornet]

It can kill multiple enemy waves in one go

[cyan pollen]

that bug can only clear waves not bosses

[forest knot]

I'm guessing you're dying to Lamia

[buoyant hornet]

Bosses aren't a problem either with the right buffs

[cyan pollen]

no the last boss, tho i did die to lamia multiple times and had to use biometric blood

[zenith thorn]

dalao strat

[buoyant hornet]

Prioritize basic attack and ult buffs + orb buffs

[cyan pollen]

should i get crimson insight or avoid it

[river nymph]

[buoyant hornet]

Get it tbh otherwise your exp gain will be turtle speed

it's already turtle speed as is

[river nymph]

cryowo

[pure fern]

how many copy SSS from SS?

[zenith thorn]

xenowo

[slate gull]

3

[pure fern]

oh i thought only 2

[cyan pollen]

am i supposed to use my feral with dv and guin or their feral

[pure fern]

since there's up to qu selector again on bianca patch i thought i can sss uncle

[slate gull]

ask kuro to make it 2. would love it as well

[buoyant hornet]

Btw if you're struggling with bosses, just use Lamia instead

With the right ult dmg buffs + orb buffs + ult energy buffs, she can basically do ult1 > 3pings > ult 2 > white orb > ult1 > 3pings > ult 2

[pure fern]

[river nymph]

god willing, veronica will replace wata two patches after bianca

[buoyant hornet]

And it goes on forever

[forest knot]

Just use Fran Feral for damage

[buoyant hornet]

Almost no room for getting hit

[cyan pollen]

okay then i will take lamia

no 21 xxi and karenina scire with her right

[buoyant hornet]

I had to max out this gamemode on two accs I'd be damned if I didn't figure out hilarious strats in the process

[buoyant hornet]

No use rozen + scire

Or rozen + xxi

[forest knot]

There are 90000 buffs at a certain point so buffs from memories are less relevant, Cottie and sig sets are your best friend for damage and abusing time stop

[cyan pollen]

are you talking to me

[forest knot]

Yea

[gilded flint]

The light bianca????

[cyan pollen]

i dont take my own units i take the trial onces

[gilded flint]

nvm

[cyan pollen]

which i dont think have cottie

[river nymph]

yes

[gilded flint]

I cant read

[forest knot]

Yea the trial ones don't have Cottie, but the strongest builds eventually just boil down to 3 ping spam into ult spam cuz you have so much energy

[shy jackal]

Phuk no

Replace daren for the love of god

[cyan pollen]

alright thx everyone

[river nymph]

im afraid she is too obviously a fire unit

unless kuro retroactively changes her due to backlash

[cyan pollen]

btw do we know about the new coatings if theyre gacha or rc

i know selenas one is gacha

[river nymph]

that is the only new gacha one

[foggy ridge]

will probably do given wata is one of the reasons the powerbalance is off the rails :sobs

[shy jackal]

Well wata is blue

Yet he's fire

[cyan pollen]

which is better

[shy jackal]

Walter is fcking white but dark element

[cyan pollen]

or is it the same

[river nymph]

bestie, its not the color, it is the literal flames and flame effects

[cyan pollen]

also flames can be blue

[river nymph]

https://youtu.be/CxY3X1RATPU?si=iYUhjMNVcMfl6aYm

like watch this and tell me deadass that is not a fire unit

[rose yew]

it looks like ice amp

[river nymph]

-hp

any -hp and -elemental resist is strong

[zenith thorn]

dark tank

she actually have dark undertone beneath her flames smh

you gotta see behind the visage

[river nymph]

[forest knot]

Combustion DPS to retire Dante

[river nymph]

LMAO

imagine

[shy jackal]

Feesh is water effects

Dark element

[buoyant hornet]

I mean, remember how stigmata wasn't a dark unit and lamia wasn't ice

[river nymph]

ok youre just ragebaiting

[river nymph]

how is water ice?

im not engaging anymore

yall can keep coping

[buoyant hornet]

I'm not here to argue I'm just saying kuro sometimes does whatever they want

Water suits both dark and ice in subtle ways but most people's thoughts would veer towards ice

[shy jackal]

Because it's the closest thing to ice

[raw swift]

Fire

[buoyant hornet]

Tbh oceans and deep seas are often called "cold and dark"

Both of them work equally

But then you have characters like Kaleido who's ice just because she uses paint

[raw swift]

It's cold paint

ice

[buoyant hornet]

Yeah but my point is that thematically they don't lock themselves onto one aspect

She could've been shoehorned as a physical unit lmao

[raw swift]

New element Artist

[shy jackal]

If veronica is actually fire tank

I feel like cn will fcking riot

[buoyant hornet]

And scire being dark when all her abilities are purely physics-based

[shy jackal]

There's no way they actually like daren in dark team

[buoyant hornet]

Yeah

[raw swift]

Veronica can be fire for all I care

Actually no Daren needs to die

[shy jackal]

Daren is already pushing what

Like 4 years in cn or something

Wata is only 2

[cyan pollen]

left or right

[shy jackal]

My trip to china this summer will become solely for committing arson on kusogames hq if veronica is fire tank

[shy jackal]

Get the enemy damage reduction

[cyan pollen]

alright thx

[buoyant hornet]

I'm actually gonna fckn quit if they replace wata before that fossil

[river nymph]

left

[shy jackal]

Literally my same words

[buoyant hornet]

Lamia already got replaced first and that's bad enough

[river nymph]

[cyan pollen]

i mean any character is built to do damage

expect replacement any time

[buoyant hornet]

Except scire yeah

[cyan pollen]

legends never die and so is scire

[shy jackal]

Scire never was a fckin legend

[buoyant hornet]

We shall kiwi together

[cyan pollen]

i think scire is older than my little brother

[river nymph]

[buoyant hornet]

LMAOOO

[cyan pollen]

just retire her bro

[shy jackal]

Kiwi comrades

[buoyant hornet]

If only Ishmael didn't need sig mem for chain fusion on her field

We'd have been free from that horrible character

[cyan pollen]

thankfully my dark team doesnt have her nor have lamia

[zealous mantle]

is there any meta team that is a lore-accurate team?

[shy jackal]

No

[cyan pollen]

no

[zealous mantle]

the closest was Hyperlee x Liv (but no Lucia) but that's distant history now

[cyan pollen]

although this is a really good idea if they made all the gray ravens into the same team

maybe different elements but same affix

[shy jackal]

Aint no way lee gonna be tank

[river nymph]

we had lightning cerberus team

but not meta i guess

[zealous mantle]

yeah this has been my small wish since the old days

[shy jackal]

meta

[rose yew]

vergil and Dante duo team

very meta

[zealous mantle]

oh right, 2out of 3... if only they made Noctis S-rank lightning instead of CW

[cyan pollen]

all i want is a co op team with the new bosses

[river nymph]

male debuff

[zealous mantle]

ig Lee was the closest thing to a main DPS male

[river nymph]

kowlong team was meta for uniframes

[cyan pollen]

i honestly considered quitting because of all the female characters in the game

so gay bro

[river nymph]

[shy jackal]

Ishmael pyroath yuri

[river nymph]

[zealous mantle]

given Ishmaels powers, she can peg everyone at the same time in every dimension

[noble zinc]

[cyan pollen]

https://tenor.com/view/pgr-ishmael-punishing-gray-raven-ishmael-pgr-punishing-gray-raven-ishmael-parhelion-gif-16884694601888095171

which one (im using dark team)

[zealous mantle]

extra dmg bonus

[shy jackal]

[magic musk]

[zealous mantle]

but it shouldnt really matter so much in that game mode

[shy jackal]

I'd probably select dark edb because it'll boost orb dmg by a marginal amount along with the ult ig

Ult edb is also fine though

Feesh dmg is all behind her ult

[cyan pollen]

thx yall

i think i can finally clear abyssal torment

[magic musk]

feels like there's higher chance to get signature edb than specific elemental edb afterall

so yeah just dark edb then

[magic musk]

https://tenor.com/view/wahoo-limbus-company-don-quixote-team-wahoo-gif-3746807626216475243

[cyan pollen]

NO

LAMIA DIED

BRO SHE GOT ONE SHOT

I THOUGHT STRIKE HAWK WILL SAVE ME

i shouldve fkn fought the boss instead of continuing

i literally had perfect run with 3rd ending set up

[delicate isle]

does lilith still hold her dps set on void?

[noble zinc]

Vinci guin ein

Void support set

[delicate isle]

[pine pier]

for daren do i harmonize guinevere or bathlon

[waxen kindle]

Is this cursed waves?

[noble zinc]

builds always change depend upon need also Daren can't use guin

[pine pier]

sorry not guinevere i meant einsteina

[cyan pollen]

Yes

[winter wind]

Is there a good plasma team guide anywhere?

[waxen kindle]

Harmo Daren is 4bath 4boon iirc

[waxen kindle]

Get alpha cw she clears that mode without blinking

[pine pier]

im using her for ppc where i use lillith as dps so i dont need her doing dmg

[cyan pollen]

Nah lamia is better for abyssal torrent

Not many chances of getting hit and potentially getting one shot

[winter wind]

ty

[waxen kindle]

Then maybe eins glor?

[noble zinc]

Can go
Lilith dps set
Daren 4bathlon 2ein 2gloria
Any amp 4vinci 2guin 2guin

[normal sierra]

this from the guy who literally just died with fish a few minutes ago lul

[quasi verge]

Is new patch out?

[whole falcon]

no

[zealous mantle]

does doing Bianca skin [again] quest give BC? ive done it before

[noble zinc]

no

[gray beacon]

Should i invest in echo?

My phys team rn

Yes double tank ik

My alisa is lvl 0 no investment

[odd roost]

Yes invest in echo

[gray beacon]

Im f2p btw also this is my 2nd account

[odd roost]

Just don't invest Skulls on her

[noble zinc]

Atleast you won't regret but consider higher priority units investing first

[gray beacon]

Hanying is not functional at ss0 no dlt ugh, dlt saved me

[noble zinc]

Functional

[trim mortar]

Just use cottie

[odd roost]

Yeah she's very shite without her sig weapon and Dlt

[gray beacon]

I'm going to have solo vera for fire team cuz rj this account only has phys, cope ice and lilith for dark

[gray beacon]

I think ill try to get ss3 for her

So the rotations are smoother

[odd roost]

No no

Just get pianissimo

[gray beacon]

Idk whether i should get her or wata from selector

[gray beacon]

Im getting pianissimo on main

[odd roost]

Selector only upto Shukra. Get Epitaph

[gray beacon]

Oh shi forgot shes after

[odd roost]

Epitaph + Vera = fire team

[gray beacon]

Yeah ima get 3S on second

[forest knot]

Han doesn't need SS3 for smooth rotations

[gray beacon]

What about cub?

[odd roost]

Unless it's true slash

[odd roost]

Nah she doesn't need CUN

CUB

[gray beacon]

Ah thats good

Im building different teams on both accounts

[odd roost]

No one needs CUB really

[shy jackal]

Alisa is a lot better than rosetta even with no investment unless you don't have her sig or even tonitrus from the free beginner 6* weapon selector

In which case that's a massive oof

[odd roost]

Any 6* bow weapon will work for alisa

[forest knot]

still better with 5* wep

crit buff is too important

[gray beacon]

For main ill have pyro, epi , vera all ss0 and for second ill hsve 3s vera solo team. Its fun to switch up ngl

[gray beacon]

Ok ok

I will slowly level her up

[odd roost]

U can just buy her sig memory and put it on her for now

Her sig memory is what matters

[gray beacon]

Yeah ive got.like 30k event currency rn

How whel

[odd roost]

It's event currency not BC lol

[trim mortar]

Every attempt at flex need to be reacted with 🐋

[gray beacon]

Ive seen people woth like 100k event currency

[odd roost]

side eyes my 60k

[gray beacon]

😒

I hope the new character is ice amp(the one teased today)

[trim mortar]

You guys mean simulation score right?

[gray beacon]

I love the units which are good enough for cope solo teams

[odd roost]

What CUBs do you have currently?

[trim mortar]

This

[gray beacon]

Yes

[warped axle]

I hope there's no fire tank in the teasers

[odd roost]

Gimme!!!!!!

[gray beacon]

Not black cards or orange

[gray beacon]

NO EPI

[odd roost]

Probably a dark tank from her Dark design

[trim mortar]

I could really give you all it doesn't matter to me everyone is built lol

[main prawn]

watch it be a fire tank

[gray beacon]

That nrw one that kinda looks like bianca skin and rosetta

[warped axle]

when do we get to know anyways

[main prawn]

maybe months from now idk

[odd roost]

Honestly my epitaph will be SS3 35% res shred if she doesn't shred 40% at SS I ain't pullin

[gray beacon]

Veronica?

[odd roost]

Yeah Veronica likely a dark tank

[main prawn]

With the 2 selectors I can sss3 uncle but I can use 1 selector for qu ss3 hmmmn

[trim mortar]

We spamming spear boys

[shy jackal]

Veronica has to be dark tank

I swear if they replace wata before daren

[main prawn]

It's kuro. Expect outrage

[trim mortar]

Void tank?

[shy jackal]

Almost no chance

[odd roost]

Hell nah no voide content

No PPC void boss

[gray beacon]

F

[odd roost]

I regret pulling ishmael should've just saved and gotten pyroath from anni banner

[shy jackal]

Wut

[trim mortar]

What's wrong with ishmel

[shy jackal]

Those have like no correlation whatsoever

[gray beacon]

What even is ishmael for lol

[warped axle]

void

[main prawn]

nihil stuff

[odd roost]

I ain't using ishmael for anything tho

Just WZ

[warped axle]

she a copium support for other elements tho

[shy jackal]

Just because you aren't right now doesn't mean you won't ever

[spiral merlin]

nothing

[odd roost]

Yeah even A rank tanks are better cause u can put einst

[gray beacon]

This alisa main build right?

[warped axle]

?

[gray beacon]

Ive seen ppl use different builds

[warped axle]

did you pull her weapon

[gray beacon]

No

[odd roost]

That's for 6* weapon with harmony

[shy jackal]

Wut

Put eins on the amp

[gray beacon]

I just need a cope build

She wont rly be on field much

[forest knot]

4 Signa 2 Philip is non Harm Alisa

[odd roost]

If you have 5* on alisa Sig + 2pc phillip

[shy jackal]

Not like ish will be going on field anyway

[gray beacon]

Shes older than lamia so

[odd roost]

Veronica is definitely Dark tank cause Bianca is dark attacker and solon wants his wife to have the best support for his wife

Also Veronica might be a free Dorm chara

[warped axle]

does solon even play the game himself

[odd roost]

lol never

It's been 12+ patches since no new Dorm chara

[foggy ridge]

with the current state of the game, hell no

[odd roost]

The longest was 9 patches

[whole falcon]

if i quit pgr its because of storage

[spiral merlin]

wtf is a Crepuscule

[lusty tendon]

anyone know what rank you should take vergil & dante to for all the qol stuff?

[shy jackal]

Just ss I think

[main prawn]

[shy jackal]

Any higher is just damage iirc

[warped axle]

[lusty tendon]

o that's pretty good

[spiral merlin]

ss3 for qte

otherwise homeless

[lusty tendon]

do they need their sig

[spiral merlin]

vergil does

[lusty tendon]

cool ty

surprised they didn't go the sss route like all the other chars

[forest knot]

dante needs it for 2 rotations, but I guess can still do 1 rotation cope in WZ, 1 Vera 1 Dante 3 Nana

[river nymph]

[stray siren]

SSS both is cheap

[spiral merlin]

burn works too well even without dante

its good qol to have sig but price to invest is 💀

fr tho what is a Crepuscule

seems to be the official walter frame name

[forest knot]

dante ult damage spread is too good in WZ, that thing lasts for 5 years

[spiral merlin]

bruh

kuso and their unnecessary words

[spiral merlin]

checks out

[spiral merlin]

true however any respectable nanami can solo just fine

no extra bc needed

its hard to justify dmc at all with walter

[forest knot]

Never said Nana wasn't good, but if you bothered pulling Dante you prob want sig either way

[spiral merlin]

dante is free

[forest knot]

I mean the context is minimum investment, if you're leaving Dante at S0 no sig then yea just Nana solo

[spiral merlin]

tbh

im not even sure ss3 + sig would be a huge enough score upgrade

any references?

especially for people who have high invest nanami like sss and over
thats a hell of a lot of invest needed for dante to catch up

[still moat]

jarvis look up 2.332 burn team vs 332 nanami lilith luna team score

[forest knot]

https://www.bilibili.com/video/BV1DeNxzXEE2/?spm_id_from=333.337.search-card.all.click

[still moat]

thank you jarvis

but that seems pretty low

[spiral merlin]

considering ss3 nana solo can get above 6m

or maybe more even with this new boss zone burn

[still moat]

ss3 solo nana cap was like 7.5 that week

[spiral merlin]

even worse then

[forest knot]

During the release week 3S Nana solo was 8.5M, 333 was 12.5M?, idk if the scoring difference is huge vs this recent week

[still moat]

nvm 7.2 https://www.bilibili.com/video/BV12VjozZEM1

still high regardless

[gray beacon]

Oh dam i just tried an offield echo and i didnt realise how much the crit actually helps💀

[spiral merlin]

crit is like

a flat x2 dmg

to everything

[gray beacon]

It didnt hit me

[still moat]

【刚见面就要说再见，807w遗憾送别3.1莉卡维新暗队，维新暗队就此落幕……】 https://www.bilibili.com/video/BV1iFNpzJEET/?share_source=copy_web @stray siren oh -shit he is back but this time its with 3S nana

[gray beacon]

Thats crazy

[still moat]

nana-daren-lilith goes crazy

okay it was lilith's weather

the scoring makes sense

wait he doesnt use cottie anymore on daren

its condelina

[spiral merlin]

conde always meta

[still moat]

he cooked double daren ult with cottie

[spiral merlin]

what kind of zaza

[forest knot]

it's solo Lilith but instead of an off element tank for downtime you cope 3S Daren

[still moat]

https://www.bilibili.com/video/BV14kEJzcEaH/?share_source=copy_web

[spiral merlin]

we need a good dark zone now

[still moat]

last dark was good except the weather

[spiral merlin]

exactly so it wasnt good

score doko

i somehow managed 3rd best legend dark score last time

[still moat]

we got good plasma zone this week atleast

[spiral merlin]

well

""""""good""""""

[still moat]

[spiral merlin]

great score at the cost of sanity

[still moat]

its double weather plasma i dont think cn ever got this kekw

if we got it during boss zone maybe 20m is possible

[spiral merlin]

oh wait

lightning zone weather counts too?

naurr

[true pivot]

good?

[still moat]

yuh

[spiral merlin]

i had no idea

[true pivot]

[still moat]

is the reason why the score is so inflated

[spiral merlin]

that would explain suspiciously high mob score

[opaque ridge]

someone do my wz and ppc pls

[spiral merlin]

i thought it was just the fckass wz randomness

[true pivot]

this week is good?

[still moat]

get ur 16m so u have the rights to say this week is bad

[true pivot]

die

i dont even know why my blues proc so slowly

[true pivot]

i lost like 2s worth of time

feels like its bugged

[still moat]

btw have u tried lucia w3 start

[spiral merlin]

have u tried spamming

[still moat]

idk if its gonna affect wave progression on asia

i know its possible

[true pivot]

its the same thing i did with my 15m run

[still moat]

ah okay

cause i also tried w3 lucia but my wave progression is the same

so its just...why bother

[spiral merlin]

im kinda surprised

s+ lucia is only like ~1m better score than sss0?

[true pivot]

i only needed ion activation damage, lilith + nanami qte, and 2 blue pings

[still moat]

uhhh 444 should be 16m cap

[spiral merlin]

ah

[true pivot]

yep

[still moat]

yomm got 15.6 ? with 33354

[true pivot]

15.3

[still moat]

oh ye still

that last slash is definitely 16m

[spiral merlin]

eu shafted once again

[true pivot]

eu isnt shafted, have you seen the asia mobs

[still moat]

cause touching wave 39 to almost killing wave 39 is about 850K scores

[true pivot]

na is like the best place to be in rn

[forest knot]

I'm p sure the 2 weathers are separate in entropy zones, you choose one and the other one doesn't apply

[still moat]

both weather applies u can try triggering plasma on lightning zone

lucia will get additional orb

[spiral merlin]

idk eu is pretty bad

more like eu and sea both shafted

[raw swift]

Oh so does the extra lightning dmg weather apply to ion

[spiral merlin]

but i dont play sea so

[still moat]

it does

[raw swift]

Asia sucks man

I'll just retain hero ig

Is #1 hero usually harder than #6 legend

[still moat]

nanami need to get that same orb to kill envoy

[true pivot]

i didnt even know it was same orb issue

[still moat]

motherf also jumps around

[true pivot]

i had to manually target envoys and explorers

[still moat]

lilith is also bugged

sometimes her ult2 does no damage

[spiral merlin]

o so it isnt just me

[true pivot]

because u didnt get any stacks

[still moat]

how do u get stacks

[spiral merlin]

is it an animation finish thing

[true pivot]

she must land

[spiral merlin]

yea

[still moat]

finishing the hold BA sequence ?

[true pivot]

yep

[still moat]

i didnt finish it on my run and its still rng

[true pivot]

the issue with sweetmilk's w3 strat was i somehow kept missing stacks to kill

so i had to land lilith on w2 and pray she doesnt kill

[still moat]

i have to cut lilith rot short so nanami can get lightning weather every rot

[spiral merlin]

i cant with liliths small ass aoe

[true pivot]

hence cub timing is important

[still moat]

lingya my goat.....

if i dont use lingya lucia cant kill wave 9 with hold BA

[true pivot]

i didnt really mention it on my run guide, but if you see the enemies are gathered when you do 2x blues, dont do a 3rd one and just ult + cub

[still moat]

me when no energy

[spiral merlin]

i love splitting mobs

[forest knot]

ok that'

[spiral merlin]

i love not doing dmg

[true pivot]

if the enemies are separated when she does her kick up, use a 3rd blue

[forest knot]

is stupid

why does it work like that

[still moat]

she has to finish her hold BA to get enough energy to be able to ult1 with 2x blues

[true pivot]

i always finish her ground pound

[spiral merlin]

kuso game

[true pivot]

the timing is awfully tight

[still moat]

my run is tight

[true pivot]

mine as well

[spiral merlin]

so ig the actual selection you make just determines whats off element and whats on element

weathers always in effect

[still moat]

this what makes it tight

[ripe stag]

Dark IB

[still moat]

i have to wait for the wave to spawn before swapping to lucia

[ripe stag]

[true pivot]

just ult at that point kek

[still moat]

need to save ult to kill wave 39

lucia can get the same score regardless if nanami ult there

but she cant finish wave 39

[zealous mantle]

when I 1st swap to Lilith then 2x3 blue, Im slightly short of energy to Ult 1.. how to fix?

[true pivot]

or you can perform the w2 lilith special like with nanami

[still moat]

the hell is w2 lilith special

[spiral merlin]

thats normal just let the animation play out

[still moat]

u mean like insta swapping to lucia ?

[true pivot]

yea

[still moat]

nanami has animation lock....

[true pivot]

wdym it locks

[still moat]

its not like lilith where u can delay her kick damage

[zealous mantle]

hmmm is there a way to make it go faster for PPC fast kill?

[true pivot]

you just gotta tap faster

[spiral merlin]

use cottie or smth idk im not a ppc guy

i dont know of a fast way

other than cottie ofc

[distant wren]

boss ion next week

[still moat]

[true pivot]

can we delete ice already

[zealous mantle]

also, sometimes, evne if I do 2x3 blue, and let the animation play out, im still short of a sliver of energy to Ult 1?

[still moat]

i dont think its possible at all to do that with nanami

[river nymph]

[true pivot]

i genuinely dont wanna play ice

[distant wren]

then just don't play

easy

[spiral merlin]

wdym sometimes

[true pivot]

gonna demote though

[zealous mantle]

i mean when i 1st swap to Lilith

i do 2x3 blue, and not enough energy to Ult 1

it's weird

[still moat]

if she doesnt have cottie then yea she cant ult1

[true pivot]

did you dodge cancel

[spiral merlin]

i do 3rd 3ping instinctively tbf

[river nymph]

[zealous mantle]

yeah

[still moat]

[true pivot]

dont

[spiral merlin]

you dont dodge cancel

[zealous mantle]

i dodge cancel the black flip

[spiral merlin]

i said let the animation play out man

[still moat]

thats the energy

[zealous mantle]

ohhhhh

[true pivot]

only in cottie you can 2x blue > dodge cancel > 1x blue > ult

[still moat]

but like at that point if u dodge cancel just press another orb

1 blue is enough to get ult1

[zealous mantle]

i guess i misunderstood Windbell vid to dodge cancel the backflip

[river nymph]

you can do blue>blue>doge>blue>doge>blue>ult right?

[still moat]

well for ppc case i dont think people let the back flip animation plays out

[river nymph]

[true pivot]

yes, but the specifics to get that is uhh... tight

[still moat]

its just slower than dodge cancel into another blue

[spiral merlin]

this doesnt work no?

need cottie to work

[still moat]

yea

[river nymph]

[spiral merlin]

ah

[still moat]

why is the lilith not running cottie

[spiral merlin]

oh wait ofc itd be with cottie lol

[true pivot]

this week's ib we unfortunately have to not cancel it

[spiral merlin]

im too used to ion lilith

[still moat]

who is we

[true pivot]

me and zeratu pilot

[still moat]

my 34s dark...

[zealous mantle]

ok it seems blue > blue > dodge > blue makes the 1st Ult 1 faster

[spiral merlin]

yea

[true pivot]

https://youtu.be/58PRPhLUTNA?si=8k0UqR17JBoPk0Hr

[zealous mantle]

and it's a waste of orbs right? coz i get yellow orbs in return

[spiral merlin]

its ppc

will you need to care about those orbs

just kill fast

[river nymph]

[zealous mantle]

for 2 rotation kills

[spiral merlin]

theres zaza for everything

[still moat]

is this IB or lilith exppc

[spiral merlin]

idk whats optimal

[zealous mantle]

generally exppc

with 2.3/2.2/3 team

[still moat]

isnt lilith exppc just 1 rot ?

like 3 or 4 stacks

[raw swift]

Wow whel

[still moat]

not sure whats lamia doing there

[zealous mantle]

yes for Knight and Chaos
but for Hell i need 2nd rot

[spiral merlin]

moral support

[still moat]

get another amp with r2

[spiral merlin]

fish

[zealous mantle]

no i mean Lilith/Daren/Capri

[still moat]

so ur lilith can use offensive reso

[spiral merlin]

wtf capri

[still moat]

[zealous mantle]

i dont use Lamia for PPC

[zealous mantle]

why is she useless for Lilith?

[spiral merlin]

shes useless

period

[zealous mantle]

nani

[still moat]

whats ur lilith and capri reso

[spiral merlin]

cant even trigger 4guin

[zealous mantle]

coz i use 8% and 10% reso on Capri

then matrix + DLT on Lilith

[spiral merlin]

no other r2 amp?

[still moat]

not sure if u need that dlt

[zealous mantle]

all amps are R2

hmm

so ive been playing with handicap since Lilith came out?

[still moat]

https://youtu.be/0iMdUdhDKno?t=89 ye lilith can 1 rot it

i time stamped it, r1 lilith and r2 feral

since ur lilith is r2 thats easier

[zealous mantle]

what's the logic behind using off-element Amp?

[still moat]

just reso holder and guin proc

[rose yew]

Simply double heal

[spiral merlin]

guin proc smth capri sucks at

[rose yew]

Capri handicap

[forest knot]

IB without 3S Karen still better to zaza right