📨・meta-help

[raw swift]

Yes

[remote pulsar]

Yes

[warped axle]

Pyroath SS0R0(harmo) - Echo S0R0(harmo) - Pulse S0

[still moat]

[remote pulsar]

This is by far the weirdest fire comp ive ever seen

[still moat]

what i can say is, there will be vergil replacement and i think people will be fine with who is replacing vergil

[warped axle]

well, there's Lilith + Burnaknight

[slate gull]

who is this mystery TS attacker

[warped axle]

but wont rlly work here in ppc

[remote pulsar]

Well who knows. Like Nier, DMC might get rerun

[still moat]

[slate gull]

alphaaaaa?

[still moat]

i didnt say that

[slate gull]

[forest knot]

Virgil replacement is S+ Hanying

[slate gull]

aight bet

im only 6 pulls away from hanying s+

[still moat]

wrong its s+ pianissimo

[remote pulsar]

Penissimo is glacial right?

[cold walrus]

wrong again. you pick glacio/ion/burn instead of ts

[remote pulsar]

Any affix will be welcomed since it's good

[still moat]

vertical invest is the way

inb4 its ts/ice zone

[remote pulsar]

Affix scores higher in wz anyway

[agile garden]

just want to know is 4pc da vinci better than doing 2pc philip 2pc davinci? for alisa echo

[forest knot]

I just did 30 ion attempts without Lilith 3 waves clear opener @still moat I want to seppuku

[still moat]

thats 444 thing

[slate gull]

4dv better, unless you using a crappy tank, then that tank uses dv

[remote pulsar]

Dakinky is da way bro

[forest knot]

Nah 223 Ults so it's 2 waves basic I guess

[sand laurel]

I feel mixed about collabs in gacha games...
Collabs bring in new people, help spread the word about the game and boosts the revenue
but at the same time it compromised on the game's own identity and instead of collab there could been game's own original content, its creates a FOMO, and sometimes disrupts the meta

[still moat]

what about eternal return and pgr collab

[remote pulsar]

Lol what part did the collabs compromised pgr's identity?

[sand laurel]

as long as its in ER only, and its just skins that are NOT TIME LIMITED then I'm completely fine

[sand laurel]

the fact the game has Nier characters in it,

and the fact month of game's patch was devoted to collab

what could have been original game's content instead

think of collab patch as marketing bait

[remote pulsar]

Yea because sometimes, the brain needs to relax on the creativity. Coming up with new fresh ideas aint that easy.

[sand laurel]

yet, there are games with no collabs

[remote pulsar]

Are they popular?

[muted zenith]

@nova forum
WOOOOOOOO

still a long way from 7-8 mil

[sand laurel]

also, I would say collab still need different creativity, the creativity is in mixing the IPs together into meaningful experience
so that's not really an argument

I still count collabs as dillution of original content of a game

[slate gull]

aight imma dip

[remote pulsar]

Yet the ideas are not fresh. They dont need to start from scratch

[remote pulsar]

Again you're not giving me the example of games that dont have collabs?

[sand laurel]

I like ideas stemming from game's worldbuilding than forcibly placing character from other games there

[remote pulsar]

Then go make a game

[opaque ridge]

also, I would say collab still need different creativity, the creativity is in mixing the IPs together into meaningful experience
so that's not really an argument
I still count collabs as dillution of original content of a game

[shy jackal]

also, I would say collab still need different creativity, the creativity is in mixing the IPs together into meaningful experience
so that's not really an argument
I still count collabs as dillution of original content of a game

[remote pulsar]

Congrats, you became a copypasta

[opaque ridge]

actually i agree though

[sand laurel]

[opaque ridge]

collabs are mostly ass for pgr

[remote pulsar]

Well they are collabs, if they're broken, it will be like Artery Gear

[sand laurel]

I'm sorry, I can't think of gacha examples since these games do it by principle as gacha games are highly based around hype, and collabs quite frankly create lots of it

[remote pulsar]

That's exactly my point. In order for gachas to survive, they sometimes need to collab in order to gain better fame.

[sand laurel]

I'm not blaming the game for trying to make quick buck, all I wanted to say is that its not really my cup of tea and I would rather prefer original content over invasive fomo

[remote pulsar]

I really dont get what's the problem with it anyway. It doesnt interfere with the storyline or world building.

[opaque ridge]

pgr needs to remove effect to gain better fame

[raw swift]

I say let it die~ let it die~ let it shrivel up and

[remote pulsar]

It's like a side quests

[sand laurel]

if the game cannot attract enough playerbase without boosting techniques such as collabs, then there must be something wrong in the core of the game in the first placce

[raw swift]

PGR needs to just be better overall imo

[slate gull]

i'll say it again. DMC is cringe af. kbye

[remote pulsar]

Give me 1 grilled chicken burger

[raw swift]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/emojis/1017799978741145653.gif?v=1&size=64&quality=lossless

[remote pulsar]

This is ignorant at best

[sand laurel]

it still increase file size of the game (collab story is permanently available)

[ripe stag]

Oh wow
Geiravor is actually insanely easy

[opaque ridge]

DMC is cringe af?

[ripe stag]

Her core may look big on paper but it's just LITERALLY 1 MOVE

[remote pulsar]

You're talking about the big 3 hub style arpg in the market

[opaque ridge]

this is why ur dad never came back but nero's did

[ripe stag]

1 move split into 5 sections

[remote pulsar]

You should tag him

[sand laurel]

interpret this as you will, but pgr still feels like niche in eastern western market

[opaque ridge]

eastern?

[sand laurel]

and its getting harder and harder to get into as new player

[sand laurel]

western* my bad

[remote pulsar]

Yea because people cant stop doing open world crap.

[sand laurel]

[shy jackal]

Well lots of people do say that the menu is absolute slop

One of the few reasons they feel overwhelmed and stop playing

[opaque ridge]

lets be real, wuwa is real winner

[sand laurel]

we are getting between like 8-12 new openworld ARPG gacha games this and next year

[remote pulsar]

Dude, the new players are fcking blessed nowadays. Back then we got nothing, just 1 base 5 selector

[sand laurel]

what else do they have from the two very sucky selectors

[opaque ridge]

pgr has a horrible player retaining system

imagine wz/ppc is all u do

practically homework after school and work

[ripe stag]

Tbf if they think PGR's UI is bad
They'll really hate HI3's

[remote pulsar]

That i agree, but saying that newbies cant keep up is really wrong lol.

[sand laurel]

nuh uh, you read vn without voice acting

[ripe stag]

Their lobby UI is a mess + they have 2 Lobbies with different UIs once you are in part 2

[opaque ridge]

theres too much to do as a newbie too

[sand laurel]

they did not said that

[slate gull]

bruh tried ZZZ once, quit immediately because of UI and TVs

[sand laurel]

I think what they said is that the initial impression makes people quit before they dive deeper and start becoming invested more into the game

[opaque ridge]

ZZZ

[barren plank]

Just because there are games with worse desgins does not mean PGR's is now fine

[sand laurel]

they discontinued the TV system

[ripe stag]

True that
This is why FGOs is best
It got no UI

[barren plank]

That's like saying if a man stole 3 bags of flour, it's fine that I only stole one

[ripe stag]

[sand laurel]

WuWa got permanent event with TV system instead

[slate gull]

their UI is still worse than PGR's

[ripe stag]

Copying ZZZ huh?

[remote pulsar]

Idk man, pgr is pretty comfy to me

[ripe stag]

We are used to it

But newbies aren't

[barren plank]

Anyways does anyone wanna help me mald Lilith PPC cause I have no clue what Im doing LOL

I can stream in VC

[ripe stag]

Too many stuff on screen which clustered the screen

[remote pulsar]

How much more comfy do they need

[ripe stag]

Just nuke it

[sand laurel]

is this worse version of Tundra or? 💀 5% gameplay, 25% boardgame, 70% screen of text yapping

[slate gull]

just wantap

[opaque ridge]

wtf wuwa player! ban him

[slate gull]

wth is that sht

[sand laurel]

[slate gull]

@ mods

[sand laurel]

[fluid gulch]

https://tenor.com/view/mods-mods-crush-his-skull-proton-gif-10793751772769531731

[opaque ridge]

wait wtf 1/3

[sand laurel]

[opaque ridge]

i missed daily quest yesterday

rip bond xp

[sand laurel]

whats stuff does the new dorm bring?

[fluid gulch]

Is it even out on cn?

[slate gull]

new dorm?

[muted zenith]

full 3d dorm

[slate gull]

[muted zenith]

kinda like gfl2's dorm but less nsfw

[fluid gulch]

[opaque ridge]

[ripe stag]

What you guys talking about

[fluid gulch]

We all saw that

[slate gull]

[ripe stag]

Wait

[trim mortar]

[ripe stag]

New PGR dorm system?

What?

[muted zenith]

like GFL2 but less E word used in anime (god the mods love censorship)

[ripe stag]

[cinder mango]

i got 2.323 112 plasma, what score should i be getting?

[ripe stag]

Wasn't the beta actually a private beta

[muted zenith]

it was shown to us 1 year ago

[ripe stag]

I mean

[still moat]

8m

[ripe stag]

It wasn't completely shown as in we weren't able to see what type of dorm it is
We saw what we can have a model now

[muted zenith]

they had a whole video up for how it will look like in the anni, where you select Skk's gender and walk around

[cinder mango]

how many waves is 8m

[ripe stag]

But that's it

[muted zenith]

playing cards with lucia and stuff, interacting with GR etc

[still moat]

depends on ur bracket

[cinder mango]

wait are you sure 8m? i saw someone else with 3s pyro getting 8.3m

idk if it's a big gap between 2s3 and 3s or not

[still moat]

32.33 ?

[muted zenith]

you are talking to the guy who got 9m

[still moat]

that invest should be 10m

[cinder mango]

ss3 lucia

ss0 nana

[still moat]

223 is 7.8

[sand laurel]

so its not out yet in CN?

[muted zenith]

too many IP addresses in the chat

[still moat]

so naturally 2.323 would be higher which 8m u can comfortably get

[azure barn]

4 DV 4 Guin or 4 DV 2 Guin 2 Eins for Glacial Alisa?

[cinder mango]

hm alright

[sand laurel]

https://tenor.com/dEKeDAue5CG.gif

[still moat]

4 guin

[azure barn]

thank you

[muted zenith]

i m just waiting for someone to drop

192.168.1.1:3000
as their invest at this point

[still moat]

eins is outdated for wz team nowadays use 4 guin

[trim mortar]

I know where to look for when I need hydration

[slate gull]

i love you 3000

[fluid gulch]

Can lilith proc 4pc guin effect in one heal?

[still moat]

she can

[fluid gulch]

Nice

[muted zenith]

no the 3000 refers to the port being used for development

common used ones are 3000, 8000, 8080 etc

[slate gull]

ok

[muted zenith]

why the rebranding to meta-help?

[cinder mango]

separate the meta slaves from casuals

[slate gull]

before that was the forum slop

[sand laurel]

[slate gull]

you shoulda said "yamete kudasai"

[cinder mango]

should plasma lilith be using dlt? she runs out of orbs a bit on the last 2 rots

[slate gull]

never tried her without it. r3 perks

[limber yoke]

yes

[stark dove]

dlt will score less, use auto atks to get orb for higher score

[cinder mango]

i got r2, so dlt might hurt less but idk

[limber yoke]

still

[stark dove]

if u have r2 then use dlt for comfyness but if u can fit in the other buff resonance, u might score higher

[limber yoke]

the rot will be more comfortable

using dlt and filling up ion gauge

[stark dove]

i have r1 and replacing dlt with glorious spear or other buff resonance, i get better score than dlt

just gotta auto atk to get orbs in the last two rots

[limber yoke]

[still moat]

if u have r2 its better to just stick with 2 amp reso, ion lilith is playable without dlt but there is nuance to it

https://youtu.be/FDyVDrKXzKc?si=7od5R5w71KUYJAUJ r2 lilith example

[odd roost]

I have a question for Lilith. When I go on 4th rotation for some reason even after casting 6 Blue orb pings her yellow only generates 6 orbs, 1st 2nd and 3rd generate 9 yellow orbs why is that? What I'm trying to say is that on her 4th rotation she doesn't get enough yellow orbs dunno why.

[tribal bluff]

So im a dolphin trying to upgrade lilith to SS, she's SS3 rn. To get shards on her, is it more efficient to buy battle passes for the vouchers or to pull on the event insatiable research?

wait, this should be general help prob

[true pivot]

its not worth to pull on that banner lmao

just get bp

[tribal bluff]

i figured, but wanted a second opinion

[still moat]

lilith gains 3 yellow per ult1 up to 9 yellow so 3 rot gives her a total of 9 yellow and 4th rot gives nothing

[true pivot]

you will also get tickets as a benefit

[tribal bluff]

thanks

[true pivot]

as one who rolled on the banner it took me 4 rounds and a lot of tickets

[vale raft]

Lilith: Daemonissa

Skill - Signature/Ultimate (Lv. 18)

Invitation to a Radiant Dream - Nighttime Encounter
Trigger: Not During Crazy Gamble + 55 Signature Energy + Tap Signature

Lays out a Card Spread to enter Crazy Gamble and draws 5 Hole Cards, dealing Dark DMG. Inserts the Yellow Orb(s) in the Orb Gauge and gains 3 bonus Yellow Orbs. Gains up to 9 Yellow Orbs upon entering the battlefield. Triggers Time Lag Calculation.

• Deals 750.0% Dark DMG.

1/2

[odd roost]

Aaaaaaahhhhh.... Thanks

It's sad she can't onfield forever she's my only plasma unit

Only plasma and dark unit

[still moat]

if u dont have plasma team its better to solo nanami, but then again there is lightning zone with it so just stick with lightning

[odd roost]

Is amp vera the same? Only 2-3 rotation and swap?

[still moat]

no, new vera can solo

[fluid gulch]

[odd roost]

In the Next patch is Glacio Weakness boss gona be there in Normal UPPC lineup or do we have to reach 1.8m to fight him?

[limber yoke]

it will be there

in uppc

[odd roost]

Can i just use SS3 wanshi and Alisa for that?

[deft apex]

u use selena for that

the debutting one ofc

[ripe stag]

Need to use the sig memory right?

[ripe stag]

No
Need Selena Pianissimo too

[still moat]

probably

[vale raft]

Hervor ★★★★★★

2pc Set Bonus

ATK increases by 5%. Fire DMG and Darkflow DMG increase by 5%.

4pc Set Bonus

After casting Sky-Scorching Spear, gains an extra 3 Blue Orbs. Pinging a set of Red Orbs extends the duration of Unrivaled Flame by twice the amount.

ATK

132

CRIT

66

DEF

223

HP

1491

[ripe stag]

Wait

[odd roost]

Lol

That's vera

[ripe stag]

Won't this memory actually help not only solo but also rot extension

[ripe stag]

Yes

[grand jay]

Wtf gameplay help is dead

[ripe stag]

This is the old gph channel
just renamed to make it less chaotic

#📨・general-help for casuals, newbies, general questions about the game

#📨・meta-help for more hardcore topics like in-depth rotation tips, Zaza strats, anything to get maximum performance

You belong here

[still moat]

but why do u want to extend it on swap

[ripe stag]

Wata double rot or Vera extended rot for SS0 ~ SS3
That's the question

[odd roost]

Pyroath might be the only unit I won't get due to DMC budget cut

[ripe stag]

My man
Pyroath is more important

[stray siren]

Like all its members

[ripe stag]

[azure barn]

I improved my Legend Ion score but damn, 7.7m is still low for what I have

2.323 113

[feral pollen]

gib the selector NOW

[azure barn]

I really dunno what to optimize atp

I already copied Yomm lmao

[ripe stag]

I'm happy with 5.6m

[azure barn]

you want me? 😳

[grand jay]

Anyways if anyone was mad about them removing Bianca's mode switch anim dw its still there

[odd roost]

I am glad I choose to pull nanami when I came back last month

[feral pollen]

https://tenor.com/view/pacino-al-al-pacino-always-devils-advocate-gif-22765866

[grand jay]

You have to hold the core passive bar to see it instead

[still moat]

the actual question is would u sacrifice guin buff for extended vera rot

[feral pollen]

does new keklena need anything beyond r1

[fading kestrel]

we all do pookie

[deft apex]

And what's the difference

Minus obvious anim change

-# also slight narushio misinfo per usual

[grand jay]

I dont think there is a difference

Maybe besides quicker access if you just tap

[deft apex]

Brah

[grand jay]

And you can also technically combo off of it if you're into style runs

[fading kestrel]

https://tenor.com/view/kekwtf-gif-18599263

how is it funny every time

[grand jay]

I found a glitch

Its looping both the full anims

I cant move

Swapping out fixes it

[deft apex]

Lmao

[sullen vector]

Is cottie x2 really the best secondary slot for both Ishmael and Luna oblivion? That's what the guide said but I wanted a second opinion

[grand jay]

New move for dark i think

Its a delayed BA

[azure barn]

yes

their optimal rotations don't work without Cottie

[sullen vector]

I see okay. Thanks!

[sullen vector]

Who is this...

[grand jay]

New finisher for charge i believe

[deft apex]

Dang why are they teasing dmc on twitter already

Just after "vera incoming"

[grand jay]

New Bianca frame yet to be released

I just happen to have beta access

[muted zenith]

ok i genuinely need tips

How do you guys get to wave 10 before the timer gets to 1:35

my lucia either has orbs issue or can only fire 2 hold ults at the start

[grand jay]

Do you use Lingya on Liv

And what rank is Lucia

Assuming this is for fire ofc

[muted zenith]

plasma

SS3 Pyroath
SS7 Nanaknight
SSS Lilith

All R2

[nova forum]

Did you do my pyro opening

[muted zenith]

yeah, but i run out of orbs, even with lingya on lilith

[nova forum]

Aight time to send another vid

[muted zenith]

i can stream my clear if you wanna see

[nova forum]

Just the opening

[muted zenith]

ok

[nova forum]

With correct lingya skills?

[ripe stag]

True that too

[muted zenith]

this is my lingya

[grand jay]

You arent pinging enough reds

[pulsar crow]

Do you have to pull for Dante and Vergil will they be any good for wz

[grand jay]

You need 9 stacks on the gauge to have enough energy for the first set of ults

[odd roost]

What is the rotation for Pianissimo with 5* weapon? Is she worse than Hanying?

[grand jay]

If you no life WZ yes Dante and Vergil are good

[odd roost]

Bruh u smuggling lingya?

[muted zenith]

how many do i need to ping?

[grand jay]

Ping red thrice then ult

[nova forum]

1. You didn't activate lingya skill (lmao), so pyro didn't get buff
2. You only pinged 2x3red, I did 3x3
3. That's not even the correct orb usage

[odd roost]

I mean Is pianissimo Worse to play than hanying without 6* weapon?

[muted zenith]

how do i activate his skill
wait i gotta tap red 3 times, i thought it was only twice
whats the correct orb usage?

[nova forum]

Just ping the cub button bro

[muted zenith]

ah

[nova forum]

3 times, you see how much you used by the number above pyro core gauge, if you used 3x3 then the number is red 9

Idk how to describe the correct usage

Hol up lemme form the sentence

[grand jay]

Watch this rot

You NEED to ping Lingya to have enough orbs for Lucia

And you have to ping red thrice to have enough energy to do the multi ult rot on Lucia

[raw swift]

You don't really need to ping lingya to activate the buff

[grand jay]

In Ion you probably want to tbh

[muted zenith]

wave 27 is my limit ig

[nova forum]

Switch to pyro > 3x3 red > basic (wait until energy gets added into her energy gauge (this could be wrong)) then hold ult >
1st ult: 2x3blue > slash ult >
2nd ult: hold basic atk (for multi slash) > (while multi slash animation is still going) spam basic attack > (while dimension slash animation is still going) hold ult >
3rd ult: 2x3blue > tap ult (for eclipse ult) > hold basic > tap ult before plasma gauge runs out

[raw swift]

Or the blue ping boost

[raw swift]

You don't just need to wait till the energy gets added to her gauge, you need to wait for her to land

[nova forum]

Ye my description was weird

[muted zenith]

what to do if you hold ult and you still have enough energy to slash ult?

[raw swift]

And you can't really eclipse ult without holding basic

[nova forum]

Wat?

[raw swift]

Then you commit to it

This is the 4slash or 5slash strategy usually used in later waves

You can't 3slash 1 eclipse you can only 2slash 1 eclipse or every ult is a slash

[slate gull]

[true pivot]

why are you doing 3xreds and landing

[nova forum]

[raw swift]

Is this not ss0

[nova forum]

Ss3

Ss7 if more specific

[true pivot]

[raw swift]

Let's just stick with ss3

[slate gull]

who stops at ss7

[grand jay]

SS3 and above is the exact same in terms of rots

Maybe they weren't that lucky with dupes yk

[slate gull]

luck issue

[raw swift]

To get her sss from next banner

[grand jay]

Maybe besides timings

[shy jackal]

Exactly wtf

[grand jay]

Even then Ion Lucia has a 12 second limit so

[shy jackal]

If you don't have the bc for another 60 pity just roll fate frfr

[true pivot]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/emojis/1066423916282777750.gif

always gamble

[solemn spoke]

still crying inside

even tho it was 2 days ago

never pull on fate!

[odd roost]

That's like 1 Dante/vergil pull.

[solemn spoke]

sybau ts pmo🥀 🥀 basement gooners can’t laugh

[odd roost]

Ya know what the same thing happened to me 2 years ago hahaha

[muted zenith]

got it

[muted zenith]

u hold ult and then you immediately have energy to slash ult

like you got into her 2nd form using her 1st ultimate

then you still have your 2nd slash ult up

[nova forum]

You do slash ult twice

[slate gull]

luck issue

[vale raft]

Current Roadmap (as of Jun 17th 2025)

[shy jackal]

me winning pyro fate in 13 pulls and ish fate in 27

[warped axle]

👁️

max pity next time

[shy jackal]

Both actually kek

Since it's 10.5k bc for pity on their banners

[muted zenith]

almost 6.5

i believe i can only get upto 6.7

[slate gull]

believe in yourself

[odd roost]

It's so ass we have to wait 1 week for vera

[slate gull]

back to your cage, dog

[odd roost]

Lol I just want a good fire unit.

[slate gull]

are you new

[mild egret]

go go mald

[vague nebula]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/867995160854806588/1364932320825577572/1200954749147680798.gif

are we bricking?

[still moat]

The good fire unit in question:

[mild egret]

hi im new, need mentor

[slate gull]

[mild egret]

burn dps fr

[vague nebula]

u have my curse. I am sick rn so the curse will work 2x as much

[mild egret]

fk dante

[odd roost]

Just missing a good Fire team.

[waxen kindle]

hi new, need mentor im Hyro

[mild egret]

hi hyro, im mentor need new

[shrewd cosmos]

What is fire aaah situation. Get Vera next patch, wanatabe in the the selector as ur fire tank and get Lucia via thunderbolt or rerun banner

[odd roost]

Not new returnee, missing some units

[raw swift]

Just solo Vera or some

[slate gull]

hi mentor, im need hyro new

[mild egret]

show em ur fire run with nonomi azriel

[odd roost]

Yeah was planning on that. Except pyroath will have to wait until I get SSS+6*+CUB Dante, SS+6*+CUB Vergil and collect enough yellow for Bianca too. It's either Pianissimo or Pyroath from Basic

[slate gull]

[still moat]

[sullen vector]

Are any of the target uniframes worth getting?

[still moat]

DMC talk on my #📨・meta-help

[fluid gulch]

No, forget they exist

[sullen vector]

Oki doki thank u

[raw swift]

Don't be stupid like me

[sullen vector]

I was probably just gonna save anyways for future character releases

[shrewd cosmos]

[sullen vector]

It looks like we are getting another Luna(?) but idk so much has happened in all of 2 days of playin

[shrewd cosmos]

WHAT

Wdym new Luna

[slate gull]

bro is living in 2024

well, maybe sis

[raw swift]

Doubt it

[sullen vector]

Oh sorry she just looked like her

On the wiki she has pigtails too

"Jetavie: Daybreak"

[raw swift]

Bruh

[slate gull]

do you have pigtails too

[sullen vector]

Mayhaps..

I too could be Luna. You never know

[slate gull]

we'll never know

[sullen vector]

Also don't bruh me I've only been playing for 2 days I'm working with what I have

[raw swift]

Do better

[slate gull]

uniframes = bad is all you need to know from your earlier question

[mortal heath]

so..... uniframes bad why?

[slate gull]

ticklish damage

[mortal heath]

but cool finish move

[mighty dock]

they're glorified A ranks

[mighty dock]

on specific enemies yes, other than that you cant do them

[mortal heath]

https://tenor.com/view/ahoklollmao-noooo-nooo-noo-no-gif-17139315586294057944

[mortal heath]

i have one

[slate gull]

yeah, cool alone aint gonna bring your score up

[mighty dock]

which makes them only usable in one place which is siege battle
where you get them for free anyway (granted they're base S rank but its better than summoning for them)

[mortal heath]

true

[mortal heath]

ohhhh

is 47k blackcards enough fpr dmc

[mighty dock]

when you say enough for dmc what do you mean

[mortal heath]

weapons and ss

[slate gull]

depends on what invest you want, but no. them alone aint enough, you need to build a team around them also

[mighty dock]

i havent looked into the weapon banner but for ss thats 21k
if the weapon banner is regular and you dont lose the 80/20 thats an additional 15k so 36k

[mortal heath]

i have good team but i need to re invest

[mortal heath]

https://tenor.com/view/long-tears-gif-11087877242190144149

[slate gull]

do you have solacetune? do you have startrail? will you pull for geiravor?

[mortal heath]

im pulling for everyone

[odd roost]

46k is enough for both Dante and vergil SS+6*+CUB.

[mortal heath]

ohh thx

[odd roost]

That is if you win the weapon 80/20 lol

[mortal heath]

yes yes no

[mortal heath]

i learned some gambling skills from toji dont worry

[odd roost]

Dante, vergil and Luna's weapon will be on the weapon banner

[mortal heath]

nice

[odd roost]

I just don't get why they put luna of all the characters why luna's weapon

[nova forum]

Lmao momen

[odd roost]

I wish it was pianissimo

[mortal heath]

bc yes

[nova forum]

Dante team without gei

[odd roost]

Like vera Or Solacetune's weapon would make more sense

Or even nanami

[outer lintel]

which uniframe should I buy from the shop?

[odd roost]

None

[slate gull]

💢

[outer lintel]

but I have the currency and it's not like I can use it elsewhere

[odd roost]

Save it for future

[outer lintel]

[slate gull]

uniframe banner uses orange tickets no?

[outer lintel]

why do ppl hate uniframes tho?

[outer lintel]

you can buy from shop (idk currency name)

[slate gull]

bruh

aight im out. imma go sleep, dont want to lose brain cells

[nova forum]

Only if you already one

You buy those shards to rank them up not unlock

[outer lintel]

ohh so you can't buy uniframes with shards

[shy jackal]

Because they're basically a ranks in terms of usage and strength

[peak whale]

hey can sm1 send me lilith rot again i forgot it

and while we're at it can sm1 send the CW rot

i never learnt

[still moat]

No.

[raw swift]

I still ss'd camu qu and Roland with this method

[muted zenith]

whose more worth

SSS Nanaknight or SSS Qukra or SSS Wata or SSS Pyroath?

i kinda not feeling Qukra cause she is SS7 and kuro might just put her on the voucher shop

[raw swift]

Ngl nanami might be the play

Used in ion, lightning, ignition and later probably the light wz

[still moat]

SSS qu in 2025....

[worthy token]

hello, do we know if a new character will be added to the voucher shop this coming patch?

also this might be a dumb question, but does the current newest character always get added to voucher shop? (so if right now lilith is, does that mean new selena will also be in voucher shop?)

[raw swift]

No and no

[fluid gulch]

Only free characters and characters that have leap get added to voucher shop

[worthy token]

got it, thank you both

[raw swift]

Well yes we do know, we know that the next patch won't have voucher units

[worthy gulch]

cooked

vera was supposed to be a voucher unit

broad daylight scam

solon mounting ur oshi infront of u and making you watch

[nova forum]

oh ye that was 2 waves increase

[raw swift]

Wtf

[nova forum]

6.9m was on w29

[raw swift]

What invest

[nova forum]

2.32.33 123 111

Suboptimal rot tho

[raw swift]

Hero or legend

[nova forum]

Legend

Guess what kind of comments are on that post

[raw swift]

Idk man why are you asking me

[ripe stag]

What

[fluid gulch]

I agree with this guy ngl

[odd roost]

U just agree with him cause he mentioned selena has problem lol

[azure barn]

Real

[normal sierra]

I agree with him too
effing blinding animation clusters are never good in any games, let alone a fast paced action game

[shy jackal]

Only thing I want to do when dmc comes is see if park combo is possible

[river nymph]

howdy meta brainrotters

[modern tulip]

also wheres the sheet with all patch total bcs and pulls i remembered it was pinned

[stark tundra]

Is selena: pianissimo good?

[shy jackal]

Yes

[shy jackal]

The important links pin should have another link that brings you to it

[modern tulip]

the bc lpanner in the community links thats pinned is outdated

last update was luna patch 😭

oh wait i entered the wrong link

[solemn spoke]

dum

[modern tulip]

ok yeah its there now https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1nNauBXGcHv_7AepLWBLo4ykl3V_EhxpK/edit?gid=824145130#gid=824145130

[sick flower]

what element is the new vera

[raw swift]

Fire and has darkflow affix

[sick flower]

thanks

[ruby glade]

Is empy useless if I get vera?

[stray siren]

If your Empy has two weapon Resos she can work in PPC, can be support for Lilith for example

[still moat]

My empy is butt naked

[fluid gulch]

🤨

[still moat]

She is r0

[fluid gulch]

Atleast you have her sig

[still moat]

Not anymore

[modern tulip]

from next patch selector is qu better than epi, can i just cope with bridget

[still moat]

Qu is expensive to raise

[modern tulip]

is it like... Ss3 r1 expensive...

[still moat]

Ss0 r1

[modern tulip]

o well still is, does wata works without sig or something

[still moat]

Uhh he can work without sig after vera I think

[mild egret]

Sleep

[still moat]

But at that point nanami with sig is just the better fire tank

[modern tulip]

wait like for real

[mild egret]

[modern tulip]

i might as well just use combustion nanami

[mild egret]

Hows touching grass feels xeno lao

[still moat]

Yea nanami is the second best fire tank

U probably still want wata for ppc tho

Like naked s0 wata still gives 25% shred as a qte bot while qu literally does nothing

[worthy gulch]

Qu replacement when

im legit thinking of not getting her and sticking with wanshi solo

so i can use the selena patch selector to just SS3 wata instead of getting Qu

[river nymph]

not as good as touching you

[worthy gulch]

and keep dumping the vouchers to get SSS6 Wanshi to S+

[river nymph]

wata is so trash just use nana burn mode

[worthy gulch]

i meant wanshi solo 😭

[river nymph]

[worthy gulch]

do u think thats a not rtarded idea?

[river nymph]

i was also thinking wata cuz someone asked about it in the noob chat

[river nymph]

i guess, since qu needs sig and dlt too ideally

ice is weak anyway

[worthy gulch]

she would also be at base SS which seems super useless

[river nymph]

ye

[worthy gulch]

if i got S+ wanshi, it might legit be a dps loss to be switching to her at all

[river nymph]

true

surely we get a new ice unit soon

[whole falcon]

midkra

[stray siren]

Pulao ice amp

[worthy gulch]

surely

[river nymph]

haicma ice amp

[whole falcon]

fck pulao just add haicma

[river nymph]

actually we need haicma light amp so her and nana can reunite

[frank kindle]

people shout ice amp meanwhile daren:

[whole falcon]

karen ice amp

[frank kindle]

https://tenor.com/view/pedro-monkey-puppet-meme-awkward-gif-15268759

[river nymph]

we have given up on dark

[stray siren]

Becus Daren best girl

[frank kindle]

next patch, daren omni element tank, all affixes

[river nymph]

[frank kindle]

alive forever

[stray siren]

She is already omnielement tank wdym

If it weren't for the sync, maybe she would still be SSS Wata/Hanying support

[outer lintel]

what are some good A ranks that I should build?

[solemn spoke]

Teddy and XXI trust

besides that most suck

[solemn spoke]

what your account look like

[outer lintel]

Lilith Ishmael alpha and wolf girl

[carmine breach]

what about yata fulgor 🥺

[solemn spoke]

https://huaxu.app put server and your ID and send link

[solemn spoke]

mid

[outer lintel]

https://huaxu.app/ap/players/25867758/characters

[modern tulip]

What nanami memo as combustion tank in fire

[solemn spoke]

yep Teddy and XXI with Lilith for copium dark team

still have u used your blue selector/thunderbolt?

[outer lintel]

what's that?

[solemn spoke]

how u get nanamid

by orange tickets?

or blue

[outer lintel]

blue

[solemn spoke]

yeah that was the blue selector ok

[outer lintel]

my luck so bad it took me 40

[solemn spoke]

same its normal tho

[outer lintel]

low drop rate

[solemn spoke]

now save black cards and orange tickets for next patch

[frigid moth]

.5% rate be like 🫡

[outer lintel]

yeah but honestly it sucks to not have many units when I have so much content unlocked that needs multiple teams lol

[frigid moth]

Next patch will help with that

[carmine breach]

do we know how good geiravor will be for the darkflow CM team (yes i know there is no content for it yet)

[grand jay]

Purely enabler

Does 0 dmg from testing so the next umbra dps is gonna have to pick up the slack

[normal sierra]

yeah, it be like
Nana can't leave me alone

[sly geyser]

k whel

[worthy gulch]

step on a lego

[still moat]

[fading kestrel]

improvement!

[normal sierra]

such massive increase in score cannot be fathomed by us, mortals

[gilded flint]

Those with 2.32.32 invest for phys wz, what was your score this week?

[worthy gulch]

le goat

[frank kindle]

my one student kiwid at 76lvl

[quick talon]

Who's meta right now?

[woven haven]

everyone on the list

minus lamia soon

[quick talon]

I need pyroath and Vera then

[worthy gulch]

find a dmc tourist

farm them

[frank kindle]

already did

mf didnt get a single character, just did stuff with his fulgor

[flint igloo]

[carmine breach]

cm pfp w

[flint igloo]

[frank kindle]

like, not even used base banner, based honestly

[flint igloo]

Cw icons are the definition of early quitters for me

[frank kindle]

i wonder how he will feel with all those event tickets in his bag

[flint igloo]

Or the ones who don't know a flying shi about how to play the game

[flint igloo]

Full ig

[still moat]

surely i can kill wave 23

ngl why even bother

[carmine breach]

its okay you got this

[still moat]

[carmine breach]

[frank kindle]

i see that phys

is that han solo

[still moat]

yeah

[frank kindle]

https://tenor.com/view/star-wars-empire-strikes-back-han-solo-facepalm-gif-3881735644420460608

[still moat]

https://tenor.com/view/i-used-to-pray-for-times-like-this-i-used-to-pray-meek-mill-dreams-and-nightmares-dreams-and-nightmares-michael-jordan-gif-4600240804856944817

[frank kindle]

selena will fix us, for sure

also 5 more days for calendar release

[flint igloo]

When is pianos banner

[still moat]

literally in a week

[frank kindle]

https://tenor.com/view/that-is-delicious-chef-ramsay-gordon-bakes-using-a-hot-spring-i-love-the-food-this-is-tasty-gif-23378779

[native nest]

Hello, i wanna ask, i know everyone is saying to invest on Nanami, but can i invest on Luna? Cause i really like her character but i'm worry she's not so good anymore like CW

[woven haven]

Nanami is much more versatile and generally stronger atm

Luna is only usable in one element mainly
Nanami is meta in about 3-4 elements

[frank kindle]

lightning dps, plasma support, ignite enables, cope fire tank, can be played in dark team at ss3 if u lack units, cute af

truly the space goat, goatnanami

[woven haven]

Glow Tank too rn

[frank kindle]

They overcooked with glow, now imagine if they bait and switch and make lightning/plasma not work with it post beta

[still moat]

having luna is good enough, she enables some weird team comp that actually works

[woven haven]

i hope he’s not pulling luna fresh from somewhere

that’s going to be a bad idea

[still moat]

[river nymph]

[modern tulip]

is it better to hit ultimate ppc right away after i have access to it or wait until im fleshed out

[woven haven]

hit

You will have access to outlier bosses
do as many as you can

It doesn’t matter if you can’t do well in the 3 bosses that week
the outlier bosses will boost your skull income to the stratosphere

[thorn creek]

Hit right away

[woven haven]

There’s like idk how many bosses now

[raw swift]

help me for clash reflections what team is the best

[modern tulip]

i assume those outlier bosses are much easier than the weekly ultimate bosses for me to get those skulls?

[thorn creek]

Vids from Windbell will help u reach the scores u need

[woven haven]

they’re retired bosses from ult ppc

[frank kindle]

inbefore its || laurel ||

[woven haven]

Clearing up to 580k gives 75 skulls per boss

And there should be like at least 10 or so outlier bosses by now

probably more i haven’t checked recently

[frank kindle]

1200 skulls this patch for outliner i think, even more for brand new players next patch

[deft apex]

21 in cn

Counting lilith

[stray siren]

Use Nanami or Ish + Luna

[boreal lynx]

whats invest

[still moat]

232.3 nanami ampmael

[boreal lynx]

whats that in english

[still moat]

its 232.3 nanami ampmael in english

[zenith thorn]

can you speak english

[still moat]

[boreal lynx]

ty

[boreal lynx]

wait why amp ish

[still moat]

i have skill issue on luna

[deft apex]

Very real

[boreal lynx]

how u got a skill issue and got 1.2m higher then me

[zenith thorn]

just click fast smh

[spiral merlin]

how skill issue on luna and not ish

[still moat]

[boreal lynx]

real

[still moat]

is because with nanami i dont have to be fast on 2 unit back to back

nanami is very chill

[boreal lynx]

can u show me ur rotation

[spiral merlin]

im fast with ishmael frfr

[still moat]

i do 34444

[boreal lynx]

whts ur score

[spiral merlin]

void?

8.7m

[boreal lynx]

HOW

[spiral merlin]

bowing to ishmael

[still moat]

3 rot

4 rot, but instead of yrr and blue later, i just do ryrr like 3 rot so it doesnt mash my brain

[boreal lynx]

thts the rot im doing rn

[still moat]

then it boils down to qte timing and breakpoints

[boreal lynx]

ima go back to 6 rot and see if tht scores higher

[still moat]

the hell is 6 rot

[boreal lynx]

just go with the flow till i see luna pop up

[still moat]

if u are doing my comp then luna wont see field time

the most she is gonna get is to proc lingya

https://youtu.be/-3fMoZyeXjc?si=JU-sf01ThmJKkcWD

[boreal lynx]

my nana is ss3 so i use ayla

[still moat]

well no wonder ur score is lower

[boreal lynx]

but i have sss ish

[still moat]

okay thats a problem

[spiral merlin]

wheres the problem

i just see based

[still moat]

the score with sss ish

233 nihil ?

[boreal lynx]

yeah

[still moat]

malder score

aim like high 6mil ig

[boreal lynx]

alr bet

[still moat]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YKVoUm4Fl30 not this week tho

[pallid cypress]

what team i should bring for trailblazer?

[still moat]

depends, a lot of people seem to use ishmael

[pallid cypress]

oh ok

[unreal fjord]

[pallid cypress]

and for warzone?

hanying has chang and patton

alisa has 4 davinci and 4 signa and balter has 4 patton and 2 catherine?

should i change patton for cottie?

[thorn bramble]

No

[still moat]

why is ur balter BP only 6.5K

[pallid cypress]

because she is QTE bot

[still moat]

get a better qte bot

[river nymph]

[pallid cypress]

alongside alisa

[thorn bramble]

[still moat]

this should be ur solo hanying team

[pallid cypress]

she doesnt have her sig tho

[pallid cypress]

for everything?

[still moat]

for warzone

[pallid cypress]

also i dont have alisa at SSS, nor nanaknight at SSS

and i dont have hanying cub

[still moat]

it doesnt matter, only the team comp and memories matter

[forest knot]

Go grab my score, it's the exact same

[pallid cypress]

are alisa and nanami QTE bots?

[still moat]

they are

[pallid cypress]

also what memories are they using?

[still moat]

between the 3 who have sigs ?

[pallid cypress]

alisa and hanying

[still moat]

no nanami sig ?

[pallid cypress]

oh yeah nanami has sig

[still moat]

so all 3 have sig

[pallid cypress]

i thought you meant my team with balter

[pallid cypress]

yep, so what memory sets i should give?

[still moat]

4 signa 4 phillip alisa
4 chang wuzi 4 cottie hanying
4 dv 4 patton nanami

u can do 2 phillip 2 catherine too, from my testing there is no difference only float

[forest knot]

I run 4 Signa 4 DV Alisa, 4 CWZ 4 Cottie HY, 4 Patton 2 Cath 2 Lantern Nana

[still moat]

lantern

[boreal lynx]

yeah nah my nihil just cooked, last question tho, wht was ur plasma invest

[still moat]

2.333 113 111

[pallid cypress]

philip II?

[boreal lynx]

im lost

[still moat]

yes

[forest knot]

SS3 R1 Pyroath, SSS R1 Nana, SSS R3 Lilith

[boreal lynx]

actually, what servers are u on

[still moat]

apac

[agile garden]

im wathcing a nihil team on youtube and noticed their ishmael immidiately axe kicking is that a thing for her?

[boreal lynx]

thts gotta be why ur scores are so much higher

[still moat]

it ss3

[still moat]

u dont have 3s nanami

but 2.32.33 plasma can get more than 9m

[pallid cypress]

resos not required for QTE bots right?

[river nymph]

[boreal lynx]

i did 3535

[still moat]

it helps on nanami but it doesnt matter, physical score is already low anyway its not gonna boost ur score by a lot

[pallid cypress]

and positions?

alisa in blue, nanami in yellow and hanying in red?

[still moat]

u shouldnt do that, 3/2s1e rot is for squishy waves 4/5 slash is for tankier waves which means u wanna do 2s1e early on not later

try like 3555 instead

[still moat]

shouldnt matter

[pallid cypress]

ok

[forest knot]

555 sounds like your orbs say goodbye by the end

[boreal lynx]

i went for a 3555 but for the second 5 slash i had no energy so i just did 2s1e

[pallid cypress]

@still moat so i start with alisa, do a 3 ping and then change into hanying?

[still moat]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Fsoi90Y-VB8 oh yomm did 3355 i think

can try that, just dont do 3535 anymore kekw

[still moat]

yeah, put deer also

[pallid cypress]

i did

[forest knot]

Hmm my 7.9M run got to wave 31 while 9.1 is wave 32

Wouldn't I be at least 8.3M-8.5M if I got off the last ult

[ripe stag]

@steady otter you there?

[steady otter]

Ye

[ripe stag]

See

Problem solved

[steady otter]

Paking rex server

[ripe stag]

[pallid cypress]

should it be higher?

[still moat]

it should

[pallid cypress]

also how do i avoid being left without orbs?

[still moat]

i think u are just not used to solo hanying

[pallid cypress]

dont spam blue?

[still moat]

basic attack during assasin/yor mode

[still moat]

u are not supposed to spam blue

https://youtu.be/GlnGSYCmLAM?si=z_97cgYN5hdnONTH old video i made u can watch

[forest knot]

6 red -> Ult 1 -> Basic Attack if bar not full -> Tap Ultx3 -> Hold Ult

[pallid cypress]

how do you gain so many orbs?

[still moat]

basic attack during assasin/yor mode

she gets boosted orbs regeneration on that mode

[forest knot]

Simple enough and you won't run out of orbs the entire WZ, if you need more orbs just basic attack a second after each Ult 1

[pallid cypress]

asssasin/yor mode is ult right?

[still moat]

yes

[rustic rune]

How to do cw normal jump?
I forgot
Always ended with darkflow jump

[pallid cypress]

how many waves i have to clear to reach 3 million points?

[agile garden]

on border pact which characters should i placed on each buff?

[cyan pollen]

anyone here to help me with ppc or yall sleeping

[late mango]

Oh hi

[cyan pollen]

hi can you help me

[pallid cypress]

@still moat hos is this score?

[still moat]

Yeah it's good

[pallid cypress]

and for nihil platform is luna, ish and QTE bot lilith right?

what should i change in memories?

@still moat

oh wait

[still moat]

Use 4 dv 2 guin 2 eins on lilith

[waxen kindle]

Lilith should hold 4dv 2guin I think

[pallid cypress]

i forgot i changed back my build for lilith

[pallid cypress]

i was doing 4 guin, 2 dv and 2 eins

[waxen kindle]

Do you have any resos on them

[pallid cypress]

nope

[still moat]

4 dv is a must on any team

[waxen kindle]

4dv better than 4guin

Da vinki buffs are crazy

[pallid cypress]

ok done

in WZ is lilith still the QTE bot would luna and ish are on field?

or luna is QTE bot as well?

also who should start?

[tall gust]

Ishmael Me Think

I ran this same team and got 2M which I think is a lot but apparently not

[spiral merlin]

2m is very little yes

[tall gust]

I think its still good enough since im Top 2

[spiral merlin]

in leader?

[tall gust]

I will get skewered when I get back to hero lmao

[spiral merlin]

elite?

yeah makes sense

respectfully 99% of people in leader or below have no idea what theyre doing

[pallid cypress]

i got 2.8 million

[tall gust]

Agreed, I'm just having fun and shi

[pallid cypress]

i think i can get over 3 million

[tall gust]

Learning rotations is hella fun

[spiral merlin]

yea

once you know how to play each team it should be relatively consistent hero retain at the very least

[river nymph]

the learning phase is the best time in pgr

[zenith thorn]

the beginner phase and copying windbell 1:1

good times

[river nymph]

cryowo

[ripe stag]

Newbies pull Nanaknight or Luna ?

[zenith thorn]

xenowo

[pallid cypress]

hey so should luna in nihil team be a QTE bot?

or both luna and ishmael are doing damage?

@still moat

[pure fern]

isnt lilith is the qte bot there?

[pallid cypress]

yeah im asking if nihil team has only 1 or 2 QTE bots

[river nymph]

ideally both luna and ish have field tim

[pallid cypress]

oh ok

im doing that, both are on 4 cottie

[pure fern]

luna will do her rot 2x

as a damage aswell

[heavy marlin]

Whats the effects of luna cub? Is it a must?

[stray siren]

It depends on the team

Tankmael: Luna subdps

Ampmael: Luna qte bot

[tall gust]

Dpsmael: Luna dubdps?

[stray siren]

In both cases, amp/tank, Ishmael is DPS

[tall gust]

So in every case

[quick talon]

Why is Lucia crimson weave so insanely strong and easy to use like I can kill enemies in one ultimate

[stray siren]

She's the weakest attacker in the game right now

[quick talon]

Wow

[tall gust]

That's just for now

[normal sierra]

you should go and try her at cradle hell solo, see how "stonk" she is

[river nymph]

that why i said ideally, also this is meta chat we dont recognize ampmael here

[tall gust]

She will rise back to glory once darkflow drops

[quick talon]

Idk, every time I use her, she slices the enemies like nothing. Last thing I know the stage is already cleared

[tall gust]

Yeah that's just the new player experience

[normal sierra]

no worries, hell cradle will take her some minute and some for sure lul

[quick talon]

Like the simulated universe resources challenge

[tall gust]

Been there
After a while u will truly unlock the game

[stray siren]

But ampmael is meta for f2p

[quick talon]

But I played the game since luna was released

(And I took really long breaks)

[pallid cypress]

is this a good score?

[tall gust]

That explains it

[noble zinc]

invest?

[pallid cypress]

everyone SS0 with sig R1 and lilith and ish have their CUBs

[quick talon]

That's when Vera geirvalor release right?

[pallid cypress]

lilith is the QTE bot

[tall gust]

Nah

[river nymph]

[tall gust]

The Darkflow team still isn't complete

[noble zinc]

Not good score

[quick talon]

See

[tall gust]

PLEASE don't use this as a pull guide

🙏 PLEASE

[pallid cypress]

in PPC is the same?

luna and ish are on field while lilith is QTE bot?

[quick talon]

Already did

Nah jk I want Vera for ep

[normal sierra]

ppc is solo dps, ideally, and ish is the dps there

[carmine breach]

pgr tag

[quick talon]

🧊

[pallid cypress]

well just got 16 seconds in trailblazer

with ish DPS and lilith QTE bot

[quick talon]

Never knew echo was so good at physical power. Every time I use her she sucks

[normal sierra]

both luna and ish are qte bots there
but... why did you use lilith there when we have lilith this week too?
what will you use at lilith boss now?

[tall gust]

she's a buffer
that's why you don't use this as a pull plan

[pallid cypress]

ahhh crap

[quick talon]

You pull for who you like

[pallid cypress]

and i spent an energy with her on the team already

[quick talon]

🧠

[tall gust]

Fair enough

[pallid cypress]

i screwed my score

[normal sierra]

bruh, you should always plan your AP usage in ppc before starting to pew pew bosses

[tall gust]

Just don't come complaining later, But I don't getting Vera is a bad idea

Selena has a higher priority
and then there's the DMC event right after

[pallid cypress]

can i cope with lamia solo with another amplifier for knight and use lilith for the remaining 2?

[quick talon]

Haven't seen Selena gameplay is she good?

[normal sierra]

you can, yes
use lilith for chaos/hell and fish for knight then

[pallid cypress]

also how do i make ish hit hard as solo DPS?

[tall gust]

Let's just say, she makes physical go from bad to insane

[pallid cypress]

for traiblazer? she is right now using this build

[quick talon]

Sucks, I don't use physical teams

I use lightning and dark right now

[tall gust]

If you plan to stay in this game for a while

the meta way to play this game is to build a team of each element/affix

That's if you want to clear all content
well If you don't thats fine

[quick talon]

I see, I see. Gotta jog some notes down

[tall gust]

I'm coping with physical wz by using Nihil team lol

[quick talon]

Vera is a must have

[tall gust]

truthfully yeah
she's darkflow and fire amp and can be used in nihil

Is there even a difference between meta help and general help

[quick talon]

idek

Technically we're talking about meta teams

[normal sierra]

dunno what team invest you have, but you can check out windbell vid for details on proper ish rotas
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SSb4MAA0fO4

[tall gust]

I treat both as the same channels

[tall gust]

Thank you

[normal sierra]

this is for ppc only, do not use these rotas for wz
just in case someone would try

[quick talon]

Nice battle background music

[tall gust]

In wz I just do the general rotation with yellow > ult > red twice > dash > stomp > ult

Repeats 4-6 times

[pallid cypress]

my feral doesnt have her signature weapon

and i dont have ish weapon at R2

[quick talon]

You can get her sig at the feral mission event right?

[pallid cypress]

its from the paid track

[ripe stag]

Man i can't believe next week we won't have Ballard, lamia, Hamlet in ppc anymore

No more easy scoring

I barely got 610k Ballard

And he's gone

[tall gust]

Uhh dumb question

[normal sierra]

you will have to improvise then or find some reference vids with your same invest
ish has a lot of different rotas, I found 5 different ones for 10s gundam yesterday too while trying for 9s kill (which I gave up cuz not enuff dmg)
I have ss3 thou, not familiar with ss0 rotas myself

[tall gust]

you mean they won't ever appear in ppc anymore?

[quiet lily]

they retired

[tall gust]

I looked at the ppc achievements and there's a million bosses I still haven't fought there

[quick talon]

Oh you don't get her sig but a 5 star version?

[normal sierra]

you can still get those in the outlier ppc menu, can fight old bosses there

[tall gust]

sig is paid

[pallid cypress]

i mean i got it at chaos at like 19 seconds

[tall gust]

Not everyone there

[quick talon]

[pallid cypress]

going to see if i can improve it