#📨・meta-help
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ah ok thanks
Ik its SS. You need to dash after yellow to avoid using blue orb after Ult 2. This allows for 4 ults.
erm, *4 ult rotations
You dont use blue orbs in this rot
Where hold dodge tho? After ult 2
yeah
Oh, I made a mistake
For her rot after initial it's
Ult 1 > Yellow orb > 1 dash > hold dash to cancel > 2x red orb (3 each) > 2 dash > ult 2
Ult 1 > 1 dash > hold dash to cancel > 2 red orb > (3 each) > ult 2 ] x3
This is her non initial rotation, where you ult 4x
And where the other ults at
You're confusing me
I put x3 at the end of the last rot
Ult 1 > 1 dash > hold dash to cancel > 2 red orb > (3 each) > ult 2 ] x 3
Let's try zexous rot instead

sexous rot
How fun 
Give
Nno I'm gatekeeping
IshmaHEL rotations
Stephen Hawking could run a 100 meter dash faster than my phone can generate 60frames in ion wz
I finally know how to play Hanying

how good is jetavie? who does she replace/substitute in dark team
None
Assuming u have lamia
If not then she can be used in the place of lamia, can't say for sure how she'll perform tho
does 5s on pyroath in fire form require swap in with a full bar + 16 orbs?

None but she hot
5s?
5 slash
full bar and ult ready after ult1 is enough, orbs get refunded i think so it doesnt have to be 16
She can't do that rotation in her Fire form tho, that's Ion only
You're talking about plasma right?
ohh wtf fire form 
I remember a text saying you could do 5 slash in fire form
5 slash
Yeah nah it's impossible in Fire form
5s in fire
Yea, fire form highest is 4 so far
5 slash fire new meta
🍳
zaza
Ive never seen even 3slash on fire form. Dunno about SSS above tho
Reds fill up the gauge way slower than Blues do
- You have to do the BA follow up to fill up the gauge in Fire Form, you don't need to do so in Ion Form
is it like the thing I said where you swap in full bar with ult ready then other stuff?
sss do 1s1e1s
ses for short
Oh same with ss3 got it
Uwoooo SES
no
SS3 can do it too but 2s1e isn't optimal
ss3 can do ses, but they shouldnt
You wont get ult ready after swap in on fire form. Unless there's a field effect.
is it 1s2e thats optimal?
ye apparently ss3 doing 1s1e1s is taking an L
Never do more than 1 Eclipse in her rotations
Then what shpuld i use other than ses?
just do 1s1e
But why
But why
Waste of time
The whole time you're doing Eclipse, you're not in time stop
Even for wz early waves? The tradeoff seems worth it
SS3 is way too slow for 2s1e
It's better to just switch to Epitaph faster, Amp buff is just that strong
But what's the point on swapping to epitaph again?
Ig I can find out for myself next fire wz
Amp Buff duration, 2s1e on SS3 means you'll go past 12s which is a no no
ppl who have wata on lingya rise up
Amp buff only lasts for 10s too so that makes it even worse
Suggest a rotation then
ss3 also has qte nuke so lil help while wata on field
For the 1st swap you basically copy the 2s1e rotation at the start, but you cut it short on the 3rd Ult
Hello in the dispatch shop should I focus on unlocking S for lucid dreamer or Alisa echo first?
I dont have any ice characters and for physical I only have solacetune right now. I do plan to pull Selena next patch
After you do Eclipse, do Red 2x > Basic > Swap
lucid dreamer first
Hmm, need to test this first
Thank you. After that should I then I buy Alisa to S next or focus on getting SS lucid?
Then for 2nd swap onwards:
Swap > Hold Ult > Red > BA > Hold BA > Tap Ult > Swordwaves until 1/4 gauge > Eclipse
Red 2x > Hold Ult > Red > BA > BA Hold > Slash Ult
Red 2x > BA > Swap
The setup at the end is needed for this to work
if you test rn, can you send ping me please or dm please, although you dont have to
you can only get S lucid dreamer from dispatch. you SS lucid dreamer using PPC skulls. go for alisa after you get lucid dreamer on the dispatch shop

🫡 thanks
does dante need sig?
Does nanami startrail need her sig?
preferably yes since its a massive dmg increase
its not required for her rot
okay i see thanks
any math wiz; how many ppc skulls needed to straight out SS selena when she comes out?
It doubles her damage
500
Dante 2 rot is 10 orbs without an orb gen mechanic so he'll need sig + DLT for 2 rots
oh crap, guess i should start saving skulls
Sig doesn't increase DPS that much, it's quite low relative to others, just mainly orb gen
500 skulls for every SS
I wish the sigs and cub were also discounted
Btw is dark shark replaced yet?
If u mean Lamia, then her replacement has been announced
Yes generally. If you can't afford it it's fine.
She needs it cuz
- Deadline Timing resonance
- Domain Deconstruction resonance
- Sig has massive damage boost
- allows harmony. Making her hold 4 Heisen is insanely good for her
Dark shark
Is dark shark
cool
This dude
ishmael for shorthalt? as qte
or for tb as dps
tb dps
shorthalt TB lilith
slack ppc
shorthalt might be a problem since my empyrea is buried in a ditch
base s 4* 
shorthalt always a problem if im honest
this ppc is legit just
actual, genuine torture
slack
slack
xav you have sss pyro
fym shorthalt is a problem
i dont wanna learn ppc rota 
theres a ppc rota? 
i dont even know. i just hate ppc 
gimme your acc and i'll do ppc 4 u

Actually, give me after getting SSS Selena
Both Vergil and Dante are pretty sig dependent
what abt cub
Affects their kits mainly otherwise 25% boost to Dante ults and 50% boost to Vergil's JCE
would recommend having atleast 36k bc ready for DMC if possible
seeing as alisa becomes meta in three seperate teams, do I SSS her over lilith?
I think Lilith is still the better choice since her bonuses are stronger and she's also in 3 teams
oh yeah but won't geraivor replace her on nihil?
Dark, Nihil (Sorta) and Flux
Lilith's damage output both on herself and buffs to the team are pretty significant too
Yeah, but her SS3 and SSS increases her dark and plasma beam support capabilities, while echo's increase her non-existant damage
Reason why you use Vera over Lilith in Nihil is because of karen being trash
So Ishmael gets no benefits off of Karen's tank
Wata way better shred
this
Only SSS is noticable on Echo
And damage wise it only affects glacio
gotcha
Buffs for physical are nice tho
But ultimately Lilith will give you infinitely higher scores
As a main dps she also does insane damage
More than Lamia imo
Infinitely more than Lamia lol
slower than lamia
what's the fastest lamia rot?
is this is not worth doing for the 25 harmo mats 

only if ishmael is ss3+
really
it doesnt matter
gayravor
bro why is uitm site so stupid
who are the devs working on this site
its so messy
no proper organisation
traffic issue?
traffic issue is common,already expected that
i was checking yesterday too
wow it was horrid lmaocry
I love pgr
they never bother upgrading sht
atleast it wasnt vibe coded
u already got ur placement?
no idea yet

there is..

i thought they wanna make like 3 major branch for that faculty
melaka, terengganu and shah alam
theres like 7 facul
well enjoy if u got perlis 
i got segamat johor

13s Lilith hell with SSS0 R3 Lilith is good enough or should be lower?
espada did 11s no?
WOAH HOW
im not sure, i just check ranking and his score same as mine
10/10/11
2 yellow > red leaves 7 bars
How you got it
i just slack with lamia 
Don't you not have SSS Daren?
He's a whale
real
For doin Simulated Siege yall think its better running Scire - Daemonissa - Lost Lullaby? Or
Lucid Dreamer - Daemonissa - Shukra?
former
Probably the full dark team
Ok, I only asked cuz with Lucid dreamer and Shukra id actually do damage cuz I have both their Signature weapons
Okay then use them with Ayla amp
Wat
which one does more damage in WZ, regular damage increase affix or plasma damage one?
it's siege
affixes assuming optimal team invest
plasma affix
i don't know what you meant by 1st choice
I have SS3 Pyro, SS Nanami and SS Lilith all with their Sigs and DLT
like this WZ has lighting damage increase and then the second one is plasma affix damage increase but idk which one would let me score higher
plasma affix
@weary harness
Can't she's not available to select
try subs with daemonissa
its siege anyway
your guild leader would be happy even if you wantap your siege
👍👍👍
Is exchanging vouchers for 6* reso shards justifiable? 
No
generally no 
If its single digits, it wont hurt
Ooo ic, thankss 
no
Is it worth slowly building Alisa to SSS now?
Does nanaknight need her sig to be good?
She's good even without sig
She's OP AF with it
Should I prioritize her weapon or shukras?
I don’t actually have shukra but I heard she’s free next patch
Cuz rn cw ss3 sig cub does way more Dmg than nana
If you ask specifically between both Startrail and Shukra, i think Startrail signature weapon would give you more value
But here’s the thing, kaleido and lucid dreamer are both s.
I thought maybe a ss shukra + sig + cub might fill the gaps
Long term: nanami investment is better
Got it, thanks a lot
That's impossible

SS0 5★ + cub Nanaknight deals more damage than SS3 + sig + cub CW
assuming if nanami has cub
Yea
Is SSS Watanabe still worth it? I'm thinking of using the thunderbolt selector and the free one from the next patch to get him. I have SSS Pyroth too
dont get wata on thunderbolt selector
we'll have an s-rank selector next patch up to shukra
I know that, but here's the catch, I have him at SS3 and I was thinking using the free one and thunderbolt to get him to SSS
I mean you can do that
but nanami is also a good candidate for ss3 from thunderbolt
so it's up to you if you value sss wata vs ss3 nanami (assuming you have her ss0)
dont have nana cub
I see. Still won't be that big of a gap
I suggest you to prioritise Nanaknight sig for long term usage. Also depends on how much black cards you have
Who's the best 3rd teammate for a Void team with SS Ishmael and SSS Luna?
Lilith
Rn
SS0 or SS3 Ishmael?
Ss0
Lilith then
Why is the text like that
idk
whar
why no space background in test server for selena

Should i change C-Waves upper resonances?
U had sss cw?
Ok
Her reso is good
Only that 3 core or class need to change to ult
So basic attack is actually good?
Ba is not change on ranks
It her best dmgoutput even in sss+
We don't get space nor scenery

Hi chat
They gave us the blueprints
But they forgot to add the backgrounds in shop
And I got the Asian themed background 
Chat is this meta
Missing 3 more
fund me
luna oblivion signature weapon must have?
Yes
not really, you can do fine without it
if u have only S luna and cant SS her, not worth to have her sig
eventually I'll SS her
Dmg gonna be low
also depends if u have ishmael
Harmony for Lilith sig?
cottie for dark, guin for ion / support
what is ur ishmael invest if u have her
yeah i have ishmael, ok then who's weapon should I pull, besides lilith, ishmale, alisa, pyroath, crimson weave
she has signature, deadline timing
wanshi
wait or nanami sorry
Cottie best right?
wanshi over startrail huh, intersting, did wanshi just released recently?
for dps ye
nono, sorry I am stupid i read nanami even tho the words were not there xd hers is more priority
all good, ok thanks ill pull for her wep
cause u still need to SS ishmael also before luna so ye i dont think worth getting her sig rn
she will just be qte slave
Tried pulling for nanami weapon
Got the 5 star one so tried for wanshi weapon and got his early
Switched back to nanami weapon banner
And got another wanshi gun
Bruh
How many teams do the new Selena and Vera work in?
ahh, selena 2 - phys + glacio
vera I think 4? void, fire, burn, umbra (umbra has no content yet tho)
void can also change in the future depending on her rank
6 star wanshi gun?
Is umbra the real name of dark flow
the opposite
oh ye dark flow is the glb translation
Ye
gg, at guarantee? 30/30
Bet imma get Vera next patch and Selena on blue banner after
No at 7/30
When I switched back to nanami weapon
Got his gun again at 12
jesus christ u lucky af
Weapon banner easy
Anyone able to go 11 seconds or under as SSS Lilith on hell stage ?
anyone know S rank ishmael rotation
best lineup for this warzone...? i dont got physical
Just go try solo nanami
Lilith + luna qte bot
ok
SS0 rank oblivion, 1 weapon resonance (deadline timing)
s0 rank parhelion, 5* weapon
s0 rank Kaleido, 5* weapon
0:54 battle start
This character does not exist. Please try again.
You may be searching for a character with multiple frames as well.
How do i type crimson weave in the build bot
is Selena on 25th?
you did it right. you just had frame twice
Main DPS Set
Main DPS
High Difficulty, Pain Cage, Warzone, Clash Reflection, Norman
General DPS set for high rank Tsubricki
SSS0 rank or higher only
4x Diesel
2x Cottie
Top Slot : 6x Basic Atk
Bottom Slot: 6x Signature
Cottie
what the hell it's called meta help instead of gameplay help now
XD my bad ty
yes
thanks 😁
split into meta and general help
ty
Ah

Is watanabe a must have if I have a ss Nanami
do you mean "must have"
edited aight
yes. theyre used for different purposes afterall
nanami is lightning. wata is essential for fire team
well now i feel like qutting time game, lost weapon banner
Okay... so I won't build Lucia, grab Vera and Wata for Dante
wata isnt for dante. Nanami is
Didnt know you were here specifically for dante when you asked, thats my bad
Not specifically for Dante I was just wondering about usage... Lucia doesn't spit damage like i need her to @s
I've been playing for a bout 2 months.. tryna get the hang of things
I saw Nanami had the ignition thought that was viable
dmc talk in my #📨・meta-help
pyroath, at her peak, is one of the strongest dps in the game. but is quite reliant on proper equipment and teammates. she wants wata and vera
nanami CAN technically work for pyroaths fire team, but its far from optimal
theres an oppertunity to get wata for free next patch if you havent already. so just take it
is there any spreadsheet for the current wz scores for all teams on CN for DMC Patch ?
Is chargue blade nanami 6 star a must for her? Or is just a nice boost?
its a big boost, pretty much doubles her damage and support her entire team
back in my days.... I lost twice before I got my sig 
did 90 pulls and got... two haicma sigs then one alisa sig
Really? Ive heard her sig wasnt needed, will see if i manage to pull it
her signature isnt needed in a sense that it doesnt change her playstyle and she is playable without it
but the difference between sigless and sig nana is day and night
which sounds even more fcked, 20% chance, this is my 2nd loss too, 20% chance btw
Ive only lost it once and thankfully i got epitath weapon instead the one i was going for
But ngl ive only pulled 5 weapons as of now
prob no spread sheet, but you can look up cn wz scores in huaxu
Hey for physical warzone i can do true slash right,m
Well since balter and alisa are QTE bots for hanying what memory sets i should equip?
For physical warzone
Man honestly idk
I think i have that build for solacetune
Why not nanami patton 
i mean sure
it doesnt matter
nanami is marginally better
but like
it's a 30% chance 5% def shred
do u wanna bother with it 
What this mean
wtf is nanami first frame called
Startrail
Who should I pick? I have SS nanami
solacetune
wait storm shred is def shred
it should be capped anyway
so storm is absolutely useless
Good for nanami? Also can you reco a team for nanami 😭
startrail?
nanami,oblivion,lillith
solo nanami
oblivion 4dv2ein
lillith 4guin2gloria
solacetune is used for phys
premier tank for phys
helpful next patch where you are getting premier phys attacker (selena : pianissimo)
oh wait you should have lillith sig anyway
so lillith 4guin4heisen (if startrail doesnt not have her 6* sig weapon)
Yip yap just pilot my wz
sure
MODS
I'm probably gonna save up for vera soon
NOOOOO
It's now or never
in this channel we go
get all characters
Time to pull
get all new character
oh shet one actually came out
Vera's coming in 2 weeks an
skip = brick

ezra is stupid dont worry
Ezra what's 2+2
time for some fixing

I would hope so, I just got ishmael and her weap I'm just waiting for the dmc collab now
HELP me and no. 1 (im no. 2) have the same invest but they has a lot more score in Nihil Warzone. What's best Nihil rotation rn??
azriel,queso
What is luna obliv for btw? I'm kind of semi new to the game
I mean there's alot
To convert Lilith's dark buff to work for nanami
Destroy Equilibrium fields (purple shield thing) and also converts elements to whichever present element the on field member is using including QTE's
sorry man no sss0 users online currently 
Is there any way to changue a weapon reso? In retrded and put yhe wrong one in my oblivion
Yeah just click on it
weapon > resonance
Yeah seems like it 💀
then just click the resonance skill
Thank god
But surely ss3 is the same rotation?
void?
keep in mind ss3 doesnt have the -3s swap timer of sss
ur not using lilith as ur amp right?
i just use empress void rot
you probably didnt slip in a few ult on your amp but even that the score gap is huge
what tean should i use for trailblazer ppc ultimate
lightning
I'll check it out
perfect
Nono its Ayla and yes its SSS
yeah ayla you can slip in 1 or 2 ult if you do luna rot fast enough
u can? with sss ishmael?
yeah

2rot luna is about <10s if done properly so you have a liittle bit of time
Wish we had hyperreal leap for ult1 timestop
we have pyroath
4 second rot gooo
So it's 3 Ish ults, 2 Luna ults then see if we can get an Ayla? (could you possibly leave feedback on a run I do - might take a minute because lord nihil wz is sooo long)
I just malded again with an ever lower score- trying again XD
DMC units are skipable right? I don't wanna use BC on them cause I don't reeeaaally like them and collab units have been notoriously bad
guys with ishmael ss3 rot i end up having luna cd not ready when i finish her rot
Depends on if you want to do burn and ts content
Because they introduced new content specifically for sparda twins
is there a way to make use of that time better?
Burn wz was added for dante and a new ts boss in uppc that only vergil can 1-rot(s+ vergil vs s+ balter)
hmmm, I'll get them if these affixes hve ppc bosses
Vera's new frame is amplifier no?
Yes
ah, okay then I might get vergil only
i mean no one is preventing you from doing so, you'll get burned on burn wz and slash wz
maybe you can use nanami as solo burn dps but slash is just cooked
wz is meh, but ppc is important
then no, hanying is good enough for slash if you have ss3
Burn should be part of entropic zone if I'm not mistaken, so you could just do the other zone if you wish ye
yeah i do have her
all affix are entropic zone so just do the other
they'll surely introduce burn and ts units later anyways
For ppc u can cheese ts with glacio or ion
but most likely affix zone will out score normal zone
yeah, I just gotta figure out what to do on the ppc boss that needs vergil
oh yeah maybe, specially cause I plan to get ss3 selena
im so certain my bruteforce with phys will be significantly higher than vergil havers anyway
real
Then easy if u go selena ss3
you have to use slower rot if youre ss3, sss have -3s switch cd
Otherwise ion if there gonna be both glacio and ts
nice, Its just that collab units usually suck...and I don't really care for DMC to begin with, so I feel it's useless to waste BC
no i dont think so
lmaooo yyyyeaah
so ss3 needs to use the normal 4ult rot?
i think there will be max 1 affix ppc per week
Ion and glacio share same ppc spot iirc
yeah that'd be nice
The only thing that'll really screw you over is if you get a ppc week that has bosses where all teams have overlap units
I don't think it has happened in cn but there's a possibility
by the way, that'd = that would
that's a thing right? or am I just making it up
idk mine is sss, i think ss3 you have to use more kick cuz i dont think you have enough orbs to do the same rot at sss and still do 4 ult
Like for example
Phys/ice/glacio
Or
Fire/light/ion
ye
yeah its always possible but highly unlikely, I'll take the risk
That'd be so phuking trollish
real
yea i dont whats the main upgrade from ss3 to sss?
-3s switch cd and more dmg
-3s enough to mitigate the faster rot side effects?
Cuz fire is a, glacio and ion are y
yeah, the rot you're using is the 10s rot
hm
you have to figure out the 13s rot or just spam kick, that also works
well i just checked but the gap is actually bigger than 3s
but like ig the -3s id needed to not waste too much time
idk my rot is 3 ult 2 kick and my luna is always off cd
its 3s, it jsut feels londer due to how much ts ishmael has
what i tested is luna switch to ishmael right away
luna then your amp then ishmael
ah true
thats my rot
the amp buff is nice to proc
wait mine is Ish -> Amp (lingya) -> then Luna ohh so it could be the other away around? Also Im compressing the vid rn
you shouldnt have to do that with dlt on luna
Im doing Lingya for the damage bonus
Im assuming you do the Lingya damage bonus for Ish?
When you do Luna things do you wait for your QTE when you ult?
so its luna -> amp -> ishmael
the qte timing for luna is on her first hold atk before ult
Both QTE proc on first hold atk?
wait then for ishmael whats the qte timing
Ahh icic that makes sense why your Luna would be faster to have enough time to switch to Ayla without downtime (Ish coming off cd)
her qte timings depends on what rot youre using, there are rot for fast qte, rot for kick qte
just for wz rot sss
yeah sss ish has 2 rot, 1 if you have qte before switching to her, 1 for you dont
What's both of them?
1st one is qte as soon as ishmael switch in, 2nd one is during the kick after 1st ult
i see
btw on some rot you cant get qte for luna during her hold BA, have to use qte during her ult
So I got 6.8m score here, but Alice still got like 8.5m score. What am I doing wrong 
If you could give feedback what I could improve/change ^^
woah the bit rate
Ikik its 5 minutes and had to be below 100mb xd
@4:14 Im so mad that didn't kill that wave
I think I wasted a drop kick somewhere in the beginning
i cant really see how much stack your ishmael has before kicking, i only kick at 360 stacks
whats with whale not having discord nitro
luna have to use 3 ping before swapping out and ish luna ayla
I always kick max stack
and wjy do you use BA on luna, im still a bit curious
Just a humble dolphin 
Wait for QTE (Im thinking I shoulkd skip that honestly, not goign for the double qte)
yeah cuz your rot the qte dont line up
Ah icic
if you use 3 ping before swapping out, when you swap in you can instantly use hold BA then ult
also extremely minor stuff but you can (in most case) 1 stack ult with ayla
Yeah Ima do those now, QTE timings, Luna -> Lingya -> Ish, Max drop kick, 3 ping before Luna swap
tho dont bother if youre not minmaxing that much, the chance of it messing up your run is higher than the benefits lol
im poor, pls gib nitro
At least plasma is like very easy and I still dont think this was an optimized run
i got 15m on plasma lol (i play on jp)
Niceeee (very easy to get high score I love it but idk how to make it better)
Time to get everyone
did you demote oh naurr
LOCK IN 💪
did you get the comeback and manage to stay in legend? : o
legend for me is a hit or miss rn, i just came back and still having a lot to catch up
Yeah there's a lot of events with these integrated versions
Don't follow my qte usage when using pyro
im dead on dark cuz daren not built, dead on ice cuz ss3 qu, dead on fire cuz wata ss3
I'm glad more people are getting into Legend so brackets have been a lot more chill
It was garbage
dont worry i dont ever boither using QTE correctly
they all die in one hit in plasma anyway (multipliers are INSANE)
came back for lucia wedding skin and stay cuz no longer burn out lol
Oooh dayum
ok gonna stream my plasma tries
and then cry
My current teams rn
jp having small legend bracket doesnt help either, retaining is so much harder than playing on SEA
Ohh yikes yeah heard people are tryhards there. Very chill here in NA XD
All severs like Sea, Europe, oh naur
hi guys! what score is possible in nihil warzone with 3s ampli and basic 2s + sig + dlt invest in luna and ishmael?
europe and jp might be the hardest to retain due to small legend brackets
cn and sea are easiest
probably like 3-4m? then again I have big skill issue so it could be higher a lot maybe
dw i think i'm the bigger skill issue, i can't even hit 3m
3m max on hero, maybe 3.8 on legend
ooh thanks!!
I should buy nanami with ppc coins right?
本次更新后开放了【巴别塔·暗潮蚀光】玩法和相关先锋任务 ah crap babel on bianca patch
yes, ss her
@nova forum
got a bit better
A random Altera appears!
gonna try to aim for 5.5 or 6
why can't I buy more than 10 even tho I have coins?
hmm i assume this is hero with ss0 lucia?
altera teach me the ways how to git gud
im so lost with the tryhard scene rn lol, i only know empress zeratu and the top1 guy in jp
at least babel is coming back hopefully they make it difficult like VERY diffiuclt
other than that idk anyone lol
Idk any of those ppl you just mentioned 
Here to have a good time not a long time xd
im wuwa'ing now
zeratu top 1 sea, empress cn try hard and 印 always murdering me in legend
When she wuthering on my waves

lol thats funny js one dude when there's two spots to stay in legend xd
yeah having him is automatically -1 spot, me not having all teams sss is another -1
you'll always be paired with at least 2 whales on jp
Lmao 1 is doable but 2 is yeah you're cooked
btw i found this rot on yt where ish has 2 different 3 ult rots in same run
when in doubt, wantap it
yeah its up to how your qte is
What is this number anyway? Ik it's a toughness thing but is it a percentage of respective defense?
Higher the number = tankier the waves
just how strong they are, higher = tankier and do more dmg
Yah, but does it like correspond to anything? Or just arbitruary?
idk dont ask me they changed this after i quit lol
ok i m getting better at it after seeing good rotations
ss3 lucia should get 6m on hero
All we know is the higher the number the higher the damage and tankiness
is it recommended to get 3s lilith first before alisa or is lilith fine at 2s/ss3
What rank is Pyroath
super saiyan 3
Lilith and Wanshi SSS before Alisa
What's the total invest in ion team
ss3 lucia
ss7 nanami (SSS next patch)
sss lilith
all r2
andand higher score coeffecient
Go for 7m ~ 8m
this is 8m minimum
if youre on hero 6.5m legend 8m
trying, i just dont understand how people get to wave 10 before it shows 1:40 on timer
Nuke did 7.5m with SS0 on hero
good positioning
on legend

Oh Rin maybe you can help optimize my plasma too while we're at it
if u want malder score its 9m
3.02.33.0 222 111 hero
bro sent his IP address too?
i assume sss lilith or all ss0 team
any advice on early rounds?
cuz with all ss0 team 7.5m is insanely impressive, even with sss lucia getting 7.5m on hero is hard
sss lilith
223 222 111
Something like this
Don't mind my skill issue
Me no mald player

is that SSS Lucia
cause those orbs are ungodly
SS0
is this even the optimal rot? cuz i usually swap in red red then ult
Wdym ungodly
You ss3
nvm its ss0 rot im stupid
Me SS0
brb having a panic attack

What
this doesnt feel right, full sss but not 8m
i run out of orbs on first lucia rot
How do you have so many???
i still dont know wtf this invesment system means lol
SS0 Lucia and Nanaknight
SSS0 Lilith
All 2 reso sig and harmo
Im js bad 😭
This was my run if you could help me improve my score ^^
https://youtu.be/TEAFU1YESas try this
God I laugh every time I see this idk why
It's a completely diff rotation woah I gotta try this
luna opener if you dont want to weave basic every single time
rec me modpack
gregtech horizon
Does this rot apply on cn sv

Also wow the video is almost 40 seconds longer than mine there must be some like 4th Ish ult Im missing
all is 3 rot, 4 rot got fixed
They didn't like the 7 minute warzone lmao
if you in the delorean server then just ping crimson
he does have the new one with vera
Aight im gonna go to sleep so I've saved the video and wrote down the tips and tricks onto a notepad. (thanks Rin and Fel) nightt
Or ask siren , right ? 
vera rot is a bit different but its not that big
ye both
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AZxl7F-Ems8 @analog robin
not that much different tbh
Crim my bestie, can't help me with low investment tho
I have to swim on my own still
Is hyperreal good?
is luna still the dps here? luna and ismael on ss0
what memory does my alpha need if im running solo star nanami on this lightning warzone
do u perhaps have garnet?
i do but S... XD
yeah use her instead of CW
What would be a good harmony for rozen, anything with +10% dark, +2 to Darwin, Einsteinia or maybe even Guinevere?
fr? aight
Luna became sub dps in nihil after ishmael release
what memory you recon i use on garnet
can u teach me ismael's rot?
This won't work
wdym?
Nanami is already holding 4 pc heisen
what then? 4tifa 4eins?
dont have sig on garnet 
Ah bruh it's just a general info
4pc eins 2pc gloria, 2pc eins 2pc gloria 2pc lantern ( if you have it )
How does 4pc eins effect work again?
Yeah, so it's useless
WHAT IS THIS ABYSSMAL DOGS### PLS HELP 😭
wth is that team bro
Garnet should run 4pc dv 2pc eins
its SS0R0 with harmo Pyro
that doesnt answer why you're using nanami and ayla
Feral either runs 2pc gloria 2pc sam 2pc guin or 2pc sam 4pc guin
I don't have empyrea and uncle

why would I use nanami and ayla if I have those
ok but i think their buffs dont rly benefit pyroath
Nanami does nothing here, even ardeo is better than her in this situation
ayla ur strongest amp?
what if we swap to her for a bit to do her ignition rot would that help or would DV ardeo be better at that point
I have Alisa and Feral, lilith on lilith boss
cant garnet use these set instead?
Guin buffs on heal, same with sam
oh right
DV ardeo should be better
But idk for sure
I'm using Lilith no.21 and Teddy on Lilith
should I use pulse and sophia😭
since i've harmo on both feral and garnet, what should their last 2pc be?
i dont read i dunno if nanaknight can do fire shred with QTE
yeah i think thats the best option
build DV +guin on sophia and shakespeare+eins on Ardeo/Pulse and solo pyroath, otherwise ur just torturing urself
Use alisa instead of kaleido
Also instead of pinging so many reds you can do 3p red > 3p yellow + basic attacks to fill up the bar, should help you save orbs and repeatedly slash for solo, but u wont have enough energy to ender the slash so add a single 3p red + BA
why are there 2 seperate channels now
pain in the ass but no other option
bump @fluid gulch
ohh yea alisa works as off ele amp too, with her harmo
https://youtu.be/YegRILYQc50?si=fOAu5FIs5utS82Db
They killed her transformation hype
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4dv 4guin banger
Don't need, I mean, you could run 4pc dv 2pc gloria 2pc eins on Garnet
What's the problem
Garnet build for solo nanaknight
4 dv 2 Eins
While feral on 4 guin 4 Samantha
who still uses garnet

He's asking what to use on harmo
Or just use Luna and Lilith
where is luna and lilith
this is #📨・meta-help
idk, i never bothered to ask tbh
guys are they ok at lvl 1, what skills should I upgrade for extra buffs?
Which dude is having problems
D
what? solo nanami uses luna lilith??
vera should use 4dv 2 gloria 2 ein, feral 4 guin 4 samantha
@vital nova you got Luna Oblivion and Lilith Daemonissa?
is this for ppc ? i wouldnt use sophia
use alisa instead of sophia, sophia isnt really good even as fire support
but if u have ss3 lilith u can just use void luna with same set as garnet, and lilith with same as feral
You are making Luna Oblivion convert Lilith's big buff amount to use it for Nanaknight
ok good stuff thank you
SS3 Lilith btw
I mean even for feral no sig vs Lilith
Lilith better no?

what, i have never heard of such thing before
ye if feral has no sig or no harmo and lilith does
im not sure how pulse performs as a QTE bot comparing to Ardeo tho
You have not heard about a lot of stuff tbf
like Lilith Luna Wanshi for Dark

well uhh my feral and garnet has sig
What about your Lilith rank?
luna allows nanami to benefit from the buffs that lilith has, since nanami is solo - its better to just use them instead of garnet / feral
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when you switch transformation type, does that mean the timer keeps ticking?
thats neat, i guess i can bench them now huh?
Yea just use Luna Lilith Nanaknight (make Nanaknight hold dlt for your convenience)
so does luna use other memo set?
Yea
I know why they changed it but still
They could have added a timestop to it and called it a day
Balter had like 3 timestops
Will Dante and Vergil be meta for long time
Hopefully not
Hopefully no
I'm using 4 dv 2 eins 2 Gloria Luna and 4 guin 4 Samantha Lilith
Can Lilith proc 4pc guin in one heal?
oh god not another set
i already made this a few weeks ago for lilith
just lend that set to Luna, no need to make a new one
but the resos
It's not a beef
But having Collab units in meta is really really really terrible
You need this anyways
nah its fine tho
You just need 4 samantha
You don't level it or anything
It's not
Resos won't matter, cuz attacker class doesn't buff or do anything helpful
It's not
keep the resonances for Lilith, but just led the DVs to Luna and use it as is
oh yeah right
You are a new player you don't know what we had to go through back after nier
this good for a SS0 Sig nanami? 
what ur team invest 
Ive read before that alyssa echo needs a 6 star weapon to function correctly, why is that?
Without her harmony, Liv Luminance with Leap is still a better support
Wait we have lightning warzone ?
she has cub S too but thats just it, feral doesnt have sig so no 4pc einstana
Whwre
Hero?
this is hero rank
mixed one

is it because im in america server?
Oh
Nah lighting in NA
it's Lightning Plasma
But she isnt useless right? dont have her weapon nor liv
WHY AM I DOING PLASMA THEN
FRIENDSHIP OVER WITH PLASMA. LIGHTNING IS MY NEW BEST FRIEND

plasma sucks for you? i score higher in plasma than lightning
More like lags a lot
plasma score higher tho unless skill issue 

ohh fair
https://youtu.be/ATUzml3NvXQ?si=6Qg9wyZQ4VLayPe6
It killed my phone btw
THE LAG IS ANNOYING MAN
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Team Comp
• SS0 Lucia: Pyroath
...
Literally fried the chip
i guess but its best you get her harmony. Like she can pick up Tonitrus and use it and ur good

whats the rot for nihil team? i swear im just doing random things as long as it works 😭
Even without Sig, Alisa is better overall
She needs her sig so that she can get harmony to get, 4 Da Vinci which is essentially for her QTE management + 20% heal buff instead of 10*
My bianca use alisa bow instead
oh so that's you
You in my bracket?
teach me how to do nihil comp please 
Even idk
Watch sNazz
nah, but i encountered you many times in legend
Just do the 3 rotations
basic ss0 is
ishmael 1st swap in = yellow > ult 1 > dodge x2 > 3p red x2 > dodge x2 > ult 2
2nd, 3rd, 4th ult onwards = ult > dodge > hold dodge > 3p red x2 > dodge x2 > ult 2
swap off to luna when you run outta orbs
following ishmael rot is the same as 2nd onwards just add a yellow in front
ss3 ish but I still can't understand her rots 
luna pretty straightforward just ping orbs or hold BA worse case

Luna min max is just dodgemaxing
literally search 'ishmael ss0 rot' in this discord and the first 2 messages are the rotation copypasta
Ezra getting sniped?
Ishmael is pretty simple
ish rot is just winging it
hi rexlent
3 ults per swap is easy enough
omg hi rexlent
am not rexlent tho
That aint rexlent


Hi rexlent
you can bring it up to 4 with DLT 😈
or stick with 3 and use the superconduct ax ray reso instead

Gotta join the chain
rexlent new vid when
When eos
Where's your new video

My ax ray is on lilith
ohh deconstruction one then
Nah dlt ftw
Does rexlent even chat in pgr discord?
why not both 
He used to
weapon reso prio when
Do you not have SSS bridget
Acaxi is free
What is this team setup
Me uwu
who what
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echo cuz sophia sucks
pulse cuz idk if ardeo would outperform (at sss maybe?)
ardeo should if he doesn't have sig
I honestly cant even remember who sophia is
who is acaxi and ardeo 💀
Bridget
Black you know
Should I bother trying for Selena weapon or grab vera first before doing anything funny
Grab vera
of course youd say that
grabs
Sirius Black?
Ha~wei po'err
the guy from Azkaban ⁉️
Anyways, i honestly dunno what's happening so
Surely I can skip vera then grab her on standard banner so that I can cash in for dmc affix meta
Worth buying lilith? Or just voucher her to 3
Well tbf, you kinda need vera for burn team
I only gave 25k bc + 5k orange tix
Up to you. Lilith and Wanshi SSS are nice
worth it
How cooked am I
You'll get roughly double that amount next patch
Yea wanshi already SSS. But I am getting impatient for SSS lilith, might as well
Yea why not, go for it. She's really good anyway. Besides, dark is week af rn, having her SSS is nice
If I go down to 0 next patch, roughly how much can I expect to grab from dmc then
Idk about dmc income
Dmc might just be a double patch for global
Damn
dmc patch is my saving patch 
why are u saving
I would skip but missing out on affix content would be pepega
because me no like dmc. cringe af
It's safe to say that TS and Burn will not be replaced anytime soon
same team, should I stop grinding, I think I've reached the maximum potential for this team

i will cope with burn nana 
I feel mixed about collabs
skipping em
I will not miss collavs ever again. I wish i was there for BRS
got bonus from work, so why not 
Whats ur build big boy
where do event with story stages go after they end, the codex?




