📨・meta-help

[outer lintel]

[frigid moth]

Characters there are power crept by the new A ranks

[river nymph]

[frigid moth]

What's your progress on Ishmael btw?

[outer lintel]

30 pulls in

[frigid moth]

So roughly 20 more pulls from where you're at did you catch up with all the events?

[outer lintel]

no I haven't done the interludes and stuff

[barren plank]

That's high rank invest

I mean like I coulf try that but I'd doubt it'd be faster than my Nihil

[outer lintel]

got Lilith tho so I'm building her now

[frank kindle]

guess wouldn't hurt to try

[barren plank]

Tbf tho Nihil does suck balls so who knows

[frank kindle]

yea, nihil is pain

[barren plank]

Wait tho

Problem is that Both my nihil and lightning scores will be erased

cause Lilith nanami

[frank kindle]

[frigid moth]

Prioritize the ones in the event tab first they give a lot of event cards

[lone ridge]

is it worth doing the thunderbolt manual summons to try and ss3 pyroath

I heard she's rlly good

[frigid moth]

Not if you have plans on pulling DMC or haven't got the current featured yet

[lone ridge]

yea I don't have parhelion yet but I also didn't plan on summoning for her so idk

[frank kindle]

do u have solacetune, luna oblivion, nanami startrail?

[frigid moth]

Better to get her than over a Pyroath dupe if that's the case, thunderbolt is permanent so you have time

[lone ridge]

I still lack oblivion

[solemn spoke]

W person

[frigid moth]

Ishmael still does insane dps even without oblivion

[solemn spoke]

been told she hits like a pool noodle without her

[pearl solstice]

Is Nanami still the most worth

[frank kindle]

plasma support, lightning main dps, cope fire tank, ignite enabler, cute af; list goes on and on

[solemn spoke]

remove cute af

[frank kindle]

[frigid moth]

Overall yes, she's simply very versatile and being a tank helps secure her spot

[pearl solstice]

I stop reading at cute af, sign me up!

[solemn spoke]

[frank kindle]

if u have solacetune, pyro, nanami, then backpulling luna oblivion from it isnt a bad idea, just make sure u get all upcoming characters first and get ish this patch

[frigid moth]

Autocorrect trying to put me 10 feet under 💀

[lone ridge]

I think I did an oopsie by spending some event r&d tickets on lilith's thing

idk if I should use bc for ishmeal

[frigid moth]

Fell for the bait banner 💀

[lone ridge]

yea lmao

[frigid moth]

BC should be reserved towards featured in any case

Using BC on Ishmael's banner the only one I'd recommend using BC on imo

[lone ridge]

is there gonna be an s rank selector reset anytime soon?

[frigid moth]

Next patch

[frank kindle]

false

[lone ridge]

I also plan on pulling for at least vergil so idk

[frigid moth]

Up to Qu shukra, oh didn't see reset there lol

[frank kindle]

we getting itemized selector up to qu shukra next patch,
when we getting base banner reset? only kuro knows

[lone ridge]

im fine with having few dante copies since im probably using pyro over him anyways

[frigid moth]

10.5k-31.5k depending on invest

[lone ridge]

I have 10 pulled on ishmeal rn and 10.5k bc

[outer lintel]

so lamia will be there?

[lone ridge]

do I invest in ishmeal or just save since most of my other teams are also pretty barebones since im new

[frank kindle]

lamia is getting retired post dmc, dont even think about her

especially as brand new player

[outer lintel]

she's cool tho

also who do I run with Lilith if not lamia?

[frigid moth]

Do you have Shukra and Epitaph?

[outer lintel]

no lol

[pearl solstice]

Lamia is retiring before Karenina?

[frigid moth]

Teddy with 4pc guin 2pc eins

[frank kindle]

yeah, we getting new bianca

[outer lintel]

I don't wanna run ice team!!

glaciation instead of ice

[frank kindle]

white balter = walter

https://tenor.com/view/breaking-bad-walter-white-gif-8086630669522815021

[lone ridge]

ngl I think I bricked myself this patch 💔

[frank kindle]

what did u do

[outer lintel]

same bro

[frigid moth]

How many pulls on current featured?

[lone ridge]

10

ngl I think I've cornered myself into just saving for this patch 😔

Ill fix it at some point

[frigid moth]

How many event/bc do you have?

[shrewd cosmos]

Lunas coating :3

[lone ridge]

500 event 10.5k bc

do I just use the upcoming weekly + my current bc to pull for ishmeal or save for the new vera frame

[frigid moth]

So you need 2k more that you can easily get next week, you're fine just pull Ishmael

[lone ridge]

👍

I could prob get at least vera next patch right?

[frigid moth]

34kbc and 8k event cards next patch more than enough for both

[shrewd cosmos]

should be easily able to get selena dn vera, if you dont do something wrong

[lone ridge]

oh ok

ty

[frigid moth]

np 👍

[frank kindle]

next patch est income

[shrewd cosmos]

Aw, no red card

[frigid moth]

Wait 10k?!

[lone ridge]

oh wait actually I haven't done derived from matrix yet

[frank kindle]

its been updated once they dropped event info

[lone ridge]

I might grind some event stuff from there

[frigid moth]

HUGE

I'm gonna

[shrewd cosmos]

basically 14k income. peak

enough for one dante/vergil copy

[frigid moth]

VERGIL IT SO HARD WITH THIS 🧱

[true pivot]

you tapped ult too fast, and she got bugged

[frigid moth]

Almost 45k cards in total I'm so set

[shrewd cosmos]

You can tell how much i have in saving

[frigid moth]

Should have enough to pull Bianca with just event at this rate

[true pivot]

you need the yellow to show up before you ult on her 2nd rot

[shrewd cosmos]

I hope Bianca doesn't need SS3/it is not a top piority

[frigid moth]

I'll prob SS3 her as long as she's like Pyroath or Selena

[frank kindle]

are u spender

[shrewd cosmos]

Lucia SS3 or selena ss3? which one is more worth while?

[frigid moth]

Pyroath easily

[frigid moth]

Yeah I buy monthly and BP

[river nymph]

[narrow heron]

[true pivot]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/emojis/1066423916282777750.gif

[shrewd cosmos]

[frank kindle]

u maxing bps next patch too?

@frigid moth

[inner crown]

Should I give Lilith DV or Scire DV? For general content specifically, I’m not at the point where I’m making memory builds for specific content just yet

[shrewd cosmos]

just go with the bot reccomended memorysets

[inner crown]

Mk

[worthy gulch]

pyroath is such a fake fire unit its crazy

[inner crown]

Uh the bot builds don’t have da Vinci on scire or Lilith. I imagine scire is probably the better option for DV as she’s weaker due to being older.

[vale raft]

Lilith: Daemonissa <:s_rank:1287636749052412026><:amplifier:1290613387197415467><:dark_element:1290613554923438102><:electroconvergence:1288090218922119181>

Plasma Affix Support Set

Usage

Support Sub-DPS

Game Modes

PPC, Intensive Battle, Warzone

Description

Recommended for all ranks
Plasma Affix Support Set

Memories

4x Da Vinci
2x Guinevere

Memory Resonances

Top Slot : 6x Any ATK+15 Variant
Bottom Slot: 6x Class Skill

Harmony Recommendation

Guinevere

[inner crown]

That’s for plasma

But it works ig

[frank kindle]

what use

ppc?

[shrewd cosmos]

why do you even want da vinic for general use then

[inner crown]

I’ve just seen most people use DV on one of their team members

[inner crown]

Actually yes

Idk why I say general use, PPC is just the better option to put cause I need as much PPC currency as I can get

[frank kindle]

U have f2p invest right

U can just follow windbell vid for low invest ppc stuff
https://youtu.be/0iMdUdhDKno?si=2h2WWvuLHMe3mXte

[inner crown]

Mk

[deft apex]

She's ion not fire

[inner crown]

No Lamia?

[earnest jay]

Huh meta Help

[frank kindle]

Who needs dead fish

Also yk, its low invest

[inner crown]

I just didn’t realize Lamia was bad at low invest lol

I mean I have her at SS+ with DLT and Sig idk if that’s low investment but it’s kinda like the overall maximum for me as a F2P

[frank kindle]

Its for consideration that new people wont invest in lamia, because they showed new dark attacker

So lamia retires post dmc

[median spade]

lamia retired with luna and nana

[frank kindle]

Walter was last nail in the coffin

[deft apex]

[normal sierra]

my fish is still meta

[shrewd cosmos]

shes there to make sure it's not

watch vera become new dark attacker 12 patches later

[frank kindle]

Even if bianca was new dark tank id choose my wife Jetavie over some dead fish

[median spade]

yeah then we can pair vera and daren together

[frank kindle]

Yea, daren still here after getting her fifth leap

[median spade]

cause daren will STILL be around in 12 patches

[frank kindle]

Daren with all affixes

[shrewd cosmos]

Nugget, new physical amp

[true pivot]

new dark tank amp! introducing changyi

[normal sierra]

nugget is erased from the face of the universe, so that won't happen

[median spade]

in 12 patches i wonder who cw's partners will be because she'll also be around still

[woven haven]

Eh

[shrewd cosmos]

hes alive no? cuz of lore reasons?

idk, i havent gotten past 7th story

[woven haven]

There’s every chance they kill cw soon
in either mode

[median spade]

i hope so

[shrewd cosmos]

shes stuck here for longer, until they replace her usage for umbra

[flat flower]

New Lightning attack when

[true pivot]

i cant wait for cw's replacement to be alpha cw but the w is some random letter like crimson mog or some crap

[flat flower]

Crimson Pencil

[true pivot]

crimson chin

[woven haven]

Even in Umbra she’s like
suffering quite badly

[shrewd cosmos]

Alpha cursed waves

[normal sierra]

||no, he got a fate worse than simple death even, erased completely, no one even remembers him (or chaos)||

[flat flower]

Crimson horse

[median spade]

crimson cleave and she uses a cleave

[woven haven]

her dmg is already pitifully bad in Umbra and costs too much

[inner crown]

But wait who does she retire for if she doesn’t have a replacement yet? Or is the character after DMC the dark attacker

[shrewd cosmos]

Dang. anyways, who we talking about?

[median spade]

yes after dmc is dark attacker bianca

[true pivot]

cn will be getting a livestream soon anyways, maybe we will find out who are the next characters

[frank kindle]

Feral glow leap

[shrewd cosmos]

bianca is new umbra teammate, is she not? if not what affix is she?

[flat flower]

Better be 2 A ranks to help use recover from this bianca bs

[median spade]

no she is a new affix, not umbra

[frank kindle]

She is glow, new affix

[median spade]

where is this misinfo even coming from

[normal sierra]

midanca got a new affix, cuz we totally needed more of that sht

[inner crown]

Is glow the Nihil affix?

[median spade]

gotta be #📨・general-help misinfo

[true pivot]

[whole falcon]

no

[inner crown]

What the heck is it then?

[shrewd cosmos]

myself. i didnt know anything about her but that she has 2 cycles, and ones for an affix. also why the hell is there a new affix while current existing ones are not completed

[median spade]

its just new

[true pivot]

i dont like what im seeing as i look through bilibili

i pray it wont be that

[median spade]

huh send

[flat flower]

We uh don't know

[inner crown]

Ok

[shrewd cosmos]

no, cuz that would be disruption, if it was

[true pivot]

i cant tell if its authentic or not

so id rather not get your hopes down

[flat flower]

https://tenor.com/view/sw-starwars-anakin-skywalker-what-gif-4830457

[inner crown]

Anyways I’m just gonna use lamia in the dark team until the new one comes out. I’ve invested in her since release so it’s not like I’m loosing out on resources lol

[normal sierra]

she's one of my fillers for ish ppc team when I need to save luna AP, so fish is still totally meta

[shrewd cosmos]

[frigid moth]

Sorry was getting back home, yeah I'm maxing bps next patch for multiple reasons

[true pivot]

fk whel

[median spade]

fk whel

[inner crown]

https://tenor.com/view/limbus-company-ishmael-blind-blind-obsession-ego-gif-13444560823934715895

[frigid moth]

I agree with this statement

[worthy gulch]

friendly fire

[median spade]

nah i'm f2p fr

[frigid moth]

Funding it all into 🧱 so no problem

Planning on SSS DMC and using the rest for coatings that patch

Will still have SS for most of the new characters until another anniv

[pearl solstice]

Feesh

[frigid moth]

Will SSS3 Scire even see field time with Walter?

[median spade]

ofc, put her on field because she's pretty

[frigid moth]

Honestly impressed with how long she's lasted

[deft apex]

Hold ba > hold ba > ult > out

Thats your daren field time

[frigid moth]

Seems pretty good ngl

[deft apex]

Until u realise it deals 0 dmg

[frigid moth]

Dark team gonna be best ele team once we get a gen 3 tank atp

[median spade]

nah daren goated

[deft apex]

Not necessarily

[median spade]

can cw and light is goated surely

[solemn crow]

So I’m new to PGR like I played about a year ago for a little got Bianca stigmata (no weapon for her) and rigor and currently just need to get the cub for crimson weave, I heard getting the ice dps is good cause the dorms will get me the other teammates I need, but besides that what should I aim for as a ftp

[frigid moth]

I can vouch for this SSS CW actually performs well on field when I use her

[median spade]

no i said can her as in get rid of her

[worthy gulch]

share ur profile

[frigid moth]

oh lol you meant 🗑️ yeah no lightning still has Feral that's gimping it even then

[solemn crow]

How do I do that

[worthy gulch]

depending on the progress and chars u got, it might just be better to start a new ac

[frigid moth]

https://huaxu.app/na/players

[zenith elk]

is it worth doing the red orb follow up for lucid dreamer or should i just ignore it to get into core passive faster

[median spade]

use ish

[frigid moth]

my feral already double res

Feral is what got me back into PGR lol

[shrewd cosmos]

[frigid moth]

I LOVE claws

[shrewd cosmos]

whats the lore reason as to why her hp turns into sheild?

[frigid moth]

wdym you do both

[deft apex]

[shrewd cosmos]

man is cooked. invest in washi and lilith, pull ishmeal, get nanaknight from s rank selector, thunder bolt reserch char picker for solace

[worthy gulch]

honestly, i would start a new acc if i were u

[frigid moth]

Pull Ishmael, get Startrail from basic via blue cards

[solemn crow]

Why am I cooked

[frigid moth]

how would starting a new account benefit them?

[shrewd cosmos]

u here for dmc or not

[solemn crow]

Idc about dmc tbh

[frigid moth]

how close are you to getting Ishmael?

[zenith elk]

well i can't ignore red orb and do red orb at the same time, what do you mean

[shrewd cosmos]

alr, well, ur sotra cooked since your missing 90% of the characters, but u can get them over time. get ishmeal and nana, they are top piority

[frigid moth]

You do his red orb so he can do the full damage of his core passive ult

[solemn crow]

I’m like 20ish summons away and I have a huge amount of story and side quests left over

[worthy gulch]

use the fresh member target and use the initial hoard of BC to pull ish, itll put his acc in a better spot

all the units he has in his acc that matter are free anyway

[zenith elk]

thats not what im talking about
after a 3 ping, wanshi can red for a follow up
this is NOT his core passive

[shrewd cosmos]

what the hell is washi's proper rot btw? cuz I havent learn that sh and I dont think im gonna

[zenith elk]

or rather, its not the mode thing

it doesnt use bullets or stance

[solemn crow]

What’s so good about Ishmael and nana

[median spade]

they're goated

[frigid moth]

It's pretty easy, swap to wanshi -> 3ping -> red hold -> red x6 -> reload -> hold basic -> mash red -> reload -> ult -> x2 3ping from here -> repeat is his solo rot

[shrewd cosmos]

Ishmael is universal tank and amp cope, Nana is every strong lightning dps + lightning team is free

[zenith elk]

guess im not getting an answer hten

[solemn crow]

What about that ice chick

[median spade]

https://youtu.be/LlvdjUZEOcQ?si=acN6Po3VRaq7Bfa3 setsu dalao

[shrewd cosmos]

ah, you hold basic after the first 6 shots. I mag dump them ngl (using red tap 12x

[frigid moth]

6 is the minimum you need to reach 30

[solemn crow]

I think her name is shukra or something how good is she

[worthy gulch]

washed

[solemn crow]

Damn really

[frigid moth]

Honestly best gen 2 sub dps

[worthy gulch]

insane misinfo

[frigid moth]

Still washed compared to gen 3s

[zenith elk]

you know its ok to admit you don't know instead of leaving me hanging

[shrewd cosmos]

heavy invest + washi can do similar while being free

[worthy gulch]

bros gonna go get qu on this acc and ur gonna help him brick it

[frigid moth]

how is that misinfo?

[worthy gulch]

look at his account and tell me

[frigid moth]

Epitaph is best from the selector next patch

That isn't misinfo that's just facts

[worthy gulch]

alright man

[frigid moth]

solo wanshi can give a good enough score until we get a gen 3 ice attacker

You run something like Oblivion, Wanshi, and Lilith to easily achieve this in the meantime

[median spade]

huh

[frigid moth]

what?

Lilith is the easiest gen 3 amp to invest into in the game

You get her kit for free

Oblivion converts Lilith's buffs into a universal one that feeds into wanshi

[median spade]

i am aware of that but i think with how free ice is qu is still worth getting idk

just my opinion

[frigid moth]

that's what I'm saying it improves wanshi's rot significantly

[worthy gulch]

mr whel

[frigid moth]

Ice is prob the strongest elemental still for me rn

[worthy gulch]

yall got no clue on how to give advice to a dude who jusr said hes f2p

with such acc state

[frigid moth]

ice is f2p wdym?

Epitaph also has a better f2p alternative

[worthy gulch]

yes pull qu

[distant wren]

Dude no, qu is nothing without sig

[worthy gulch]

who needs a sig to function

[distant wren]

Terrible idea to get her as an f2p

[worthy gulch]

thank you rydle, im losing my mind here, cant with these plebs

[frigid moth]

is it I have f2p friends pull sigs pretty easily

[whole falcon]

people still use the word pleb 💔

[shrewd cosmos]

Luck is not with everyone

[frigid moth]

fair enough

[worthy gulch]

next thing u know, bros telling him to go fate

[shrewd cosmos]

If I dare do fate, im going to max pity

[frigid moth]

I still see people score well enough in fire content with bridget tbh

[distant wren]

Anyway did the guy who asked use his selectors yet?

[frigid moth]

Oh yeah does he have that 6 star weapon select?

[solemn crow]

SoTLDR is
Joined the game right before crimson weave came out
Quit until like 2 days ago
Used whatever selectors I had at that time

[worthy gulch]

isnt it such a cute word tho?

[frigid moth]

all of them?

[distant wren]

Ok so no more rose selectors but standard selector is still there

[river nymph]

[frigid moth]

You chose tinitrus right?

[solemn crow]

I prob have one of those cub ones lying around

[frigid moth]

lingya for that one

[solemn crow]

This is what I got

[distant wren]

Actually yeah i think starting new acc might be better atp

[shrewd cosmos]

plume with her sig!?

[stray siren]

[median spade]

new account has a much easier path tbh

[frigid moth]

I'd restart for tonitrus at this point 💀

[solemn crow]

So let’s say I make a new account what’s the optimal timeline

[solemn spoke]

it so over for me

[frigid moth]

it takes around 3-5 days to get access to most content

[worthy gulch]

tonitrus mentioned #📨・meta-help message

[shrewd cosmos]

Pray

[median spade]

what are you pulling fate for lil bro

[solemn spoke]

99th pull instead of 100th

[median spade]

S+ ish?

[river nymph]

watch it be fate arrival

[median spade]

oh hell nah

[solemn spoke]

just ish

[river nymph]

[median spade]

you don't pull fate if not going for S+

[solemn spoke]

don’t judge I love gambling Im in wrong chat

[median spade]

https://tenor.com/view/packwatch-gif-22219180

[frigid moth]

If I have 84kbc is it more efficient to pull fate for dmc?

[median spade]

never play yourself lil bro

[worthy gulch]

it was a good run 🫡

[median spade]

going for S+?

[frigid moth]

Is fate better for whaling statisically?

[solemn spoke]

eh fate did me good before got something 16th pull I love fate banner its my pookie

[solemn spoke]

pretty sure it is

[median spade]

just more opportunity to get lucky when pulling for multiple copies

[frigid moth]

I might do this then

[solemn spoke]

the chances are HUGE trust🥀

[median spade]

so far i am
460 for pyroath
480 for nana
613 for ish

[whole falcon]

i thought fate would be a 2% increase but its just 1%

biggest scam in gacha history

[median spade]

50/50s are

[frigid moth]

15% on a 10 pull vs 5%

[river nymph]

[solemn spoke]

why tf u count pulls

[whole falcon]

not for me

[frigid moth]

100 pulls is a 150%

[median spade]

keep track? why not

[worthy gulch]

cuz hes not dumb ?

[solemn spoke]

oh

[frigid moth]

so would fate be worth if I'm going 300 pulls in?

[solemn spoke]

just do it and don’t question

[forest knot]

Fate can highroll or lowroll, do it at your discretion

[median spade]

considering they're 10% cheaper and there's the guaranteed 1, 300 might get you S+ but you gotta still get pretty lucky with only that amount

490 worst case for S+? idk if anyone else has done the math

[worthy gulch]

doesnt seem worth the risk tbh

[median spade]

480 i might be dumb idk

[frigid moth]

yeah I'm most likely going to go with featured

Since if I'm lucky it'll strike anyway

[median spade]

always plan for the worst though

[worthy gulch]

really depends if ur able to cover if the things go south

[frigid moth]

I already have enough to go SSS investment on both atleast

[median spade]

i had 700 ready in case ish went south to cover cubs/weps

[frigid moth]

Also built my teams to dominate those affixes once they come out

[inner crown]

This is more of a general mechanics question than a team specific question. Could someone explain why DV is used on both supports in PPC?

[median spade]

who told you to do that

[deft apex]

[inner crown]

Well I’m just looking at builds and most PPC builds for non-DPS are 4 piece DV

[trim mortar]

7 more to unbrick

[deft apex]

No unbricking for u.

[trim mortar]

That's true

Skill issue can't be fixed

[frigid moth]

only one character holds da vinci at a time

[median spade]

in ppc specifically you want dv on one dv holder and other buff sets for your dps

[inner crown]

so are the PPC builds im seeing for when you choose said character as your dv holder?

[frigid moth]

ppc is all about stacking as much shred + damage as possible

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[errant ledge]

Hi guys, does anyone knows the best memo build for lucid dreamer? I have qu(S rank) with sig

[deft apex]

Generally there are wz builds and ppc builds

[vale raft]

Wanshi: Lucid Dreamer <:s_rank:1287636749052412026><:tank:1290614106520555571><:ice_element:1290613933106925638><:glaciation:1288090076001210398>

Main Tank Set

Usage

Main Tank/Sub-DPS

Game Modes

High Difficulty, Pain Cage, Warzone, Clash Reflection, Norman

Description

Recommended for all ranks
General Tank/Sub-DPS set

Memories

4x Liston
2x Einsteina

Memory Resonances

Top Slot : 6x Any ATK+15 Variant
Bottom Slot: 6x Signature

Harmony Recommendation

None

[frigid moth]

Do you have sig for lucid?

[shrewd cosmos]

same here

[deft apex]

Then there are miscelaneous builds that imply specific teams

[inner crown]

do I build the character as their normal build if they aren't the Dv holder

loosing my mind

[median spade]

if you really wanna mald ppc you need many builds

[frigid moth]

this

[inner crown]

lol fair

[median spade]

if you don't care and just want your skulls, regular builds are fine as long as you have some shred + some buffs + dv

[frigid moth]

you might even have to do something unconventional for ppc

[errant ledge]

Nope

[inner crown]

mk thats probably what im looking for

[frigid moth]

4pc liston 2pc eins

[errant ledge]

Positions?

[median spade]

like there are some 2-2-2-2 setups for non dv holders even that the real malders might be using

[frigid moth]

prob liston top eins bottom

once you have sig for wanshi switch eins to chen

[vale raft]

Minmax

Liston goes Top

ATK : 132
DEF : 223
CRIT : 66
HP : 1491

Einsteina goes Bottom

ATK : 132
DEF : 219
CRIT: 66
HP : 1521

[inner crown]

should I still have a DV holder for most teams or can the S3 ability usually work for QTE triggers?

[raw swift]

[errant ledge]

Got it, thanks a lott :3

[median spade]

you need a dv set, dv is very good

[frigid moth]

DV is mandatory on all teams

[raw swift]

Da Vinci is more so used for buffs not just for the double qte

[frigid moth]

You slot in DV on the weak link of the team typically

[inner crown]

Ah ok so oldest character basically

[frigid moth]

yes

[raw swift]

Though some teams have triple dps

[inner crown]

mk thanks for the help

[frigid moth]

besides for fire, Vera on there actually doesn't need her sig set

[raw swift]

They countered this by making vera's sig set weak as hell

Or not weak just... Disappointing

[frigid moth]

Crazy echo is the only one with a sig set that supports her team lol

[deft apex]

Vera sig mem is good for her solo

She's actually pretty versatile if you think about it that way

[frigid moth]

It's mainly used if you don't have epitaph

[frigid moth]

Yeah she's as versatile as Startrail

[deft apex]

Well, not like that

Startrail is out here covering for up to 7 teams

[raw swift]

Nanami my goat

[frigid moth]

truly the goat

[slate gull]

so on a 3S team, is wata good on 4DV 4 shakes?

and vera on her sig?

[deft apex]

Vera holds dv

[median spade]

global reading moment

[deft apex]

Wata goes on 4sig 4shakes still

Unless maybe there's some ppc strat

Where vera prolly goes like 4guin 2 sam 2 eins

Then wata prolly goes 4dv 4shakes

[slate gull]

okay thanks

[river nymph]

[spiral merlin]

vera: geirafraud

[mighty tusk]

do not let rydle see this

[spiral merlin]

@distant wren

[mighty tusk]

The slander wtf

[valid reef]

When does the blue ticket usually update?

[spiral merlin]

https://tenor.com/view/tonystark-gif-20634708

[mighty tusk]

Unknown, the first reset even in cn is ishmael patch

[spiral merlin]

ig at a guess every 1.5 years?

[valid reef]

I mean like the character selection

[mighty tusk]

I know

[spiral merlin]

but thats going off of 2 data points lol

[valid reef]

Oh mb

Thank u for the answer

I was asking since like im currently iffy on who to use my blue ticket on

[mighty tusk]

~~selena ~~
Depends on who you're missing

We'll have an s-rank selector next patch up to qu

[distant wren]

[spiral merlin]

[molten oracle]

What character should I pick? I'm new

[frigid moth]

startrail

[valid reef]

I plan to get watanabe :3

[valid reef]

I cant wait for selena

I really love her animations

[valid reef]

I already own qu so i just gonna grab him

[stray siren]

Merge servers Kusogame

[quiet lily]

Merge merge merge

[woven haven]

merge with CN so that glb may feed CN 1%

[obsidian dune]

but lowkey tho isnt it mainly just merging lb scores

maybe wz brackets?

[peak halo]

Yeah

[obsidian dune]

not like other games where coop pose a problem

[quiet lily]

coop in this game is trash anyways

[stray siren]

Maybe that's why they removed coop, the next step is to merge servers

[obsidian dune]

merging servers = more people would whale due to more competition

i see that as a win for kuro

and for rest of us too

[pine slate]

Well for starters

Wz has different score coefficients for each region

[peak halo]

Or not
Cuz all servers more than half just casuals

[pine slate]

U can make an argument for ppc

But idk how they'd make all glb servers merge leaderboard without merging the 3 servers as well

And that's not gonna happen cuz some people have accounts in multiple regions

[quiet lily]

[stray siren]

If Huaxuman could merge the leader board of the three servers, Kuro should be able to do it too

[pine slate]

Huaxuman just takes the data of the top 100 in all 3 regions

It's not the actual top 300

There r cases where like #101 in Asia is higher than #90 EU but it's not shown in the huaxu lb cuz he isn't in the Asia top 100

[obsidian dune]

but its mostly syncing numbers

i really dont get it the gameplay is exactly the same

[stray siren]

oh yes, i remember that

[pine slate]

U lost me

Wdym by gameplay is exactly the same

[sullen vector]

Would someone mind giving me babys first built team for a new player. Ishmael looks like someone I'd want but I also don't want to pull on random things that won't take me anywhere

[bitter locust]

Is crimson weave and pyroath worth it to build

[whole falcon]

only pyroath

[pine slate]

What's the current situation of ur acc rn

[obsidian dune]

no i get what you mean that the scores are a bit different but surely kuro can standardise that right

[pine slate]

What u got, what have u used

[pine slate]

Probably they can, but idk how they'll make the leaderboards without merging all 3 servers first

[stray siren]

Nanami + free 21 + another lightning support

Nanami: 4 Herschel 4 Heisen

21: 4 Guinevere 2 Samantha

Lightning support: 4 Da Vinci 2 Einsteina

[sullen vector]

Like BRAND BRAND new. Like I have nothing I am no one

[bitter locust]

Crimson not Meta?

[stray siren]

at ss3 for ppc and sss for wz

[pine slate]

So u haven't created an account yet?

[sullen vector]

Well I have but I'm on chapter 2

[bitter locust]

Idk what these are bro😭

[pine slate]

I'd advise to keep playing a bit first and not be reckless with gacha

[obsidian dune]

then again merging pgr servers is infinitely easier than multiplayer games

[orchid owl]

Ss3 is the rank
Ppc is a gamemode and so is wz
Phantom pain cage and war zone

[obsidian dune]

depends on kuro tho if this happens its really just a bonus ig

[bitter locust]

Oh so like she's Meta when she's sss?

[pine slate]

Tldr she's not worth to build for newbies

[orchid owl]

[pine slate]

Eh, some ppl have accounts on multiple regions

[obsidian dune]

that doesnt change anything?

[bitter locust]

So jus focus on Pyroath and build a team around her till Dante gets released?

[obsidian dune]

like the only thing is you run into yourself in your bracket

[pine slate]

If u merge the pgr servers into 1

[obsidian dune]

but thats just a multiple accounts thing

[pine slate]

How is having multiple accounts not a problem

[obsidian dune]

u can have multiple accounts in same region too

[pine slate]

Wait u understand what I'm saying by multiple accounts?

Like, same Gmail but different region

[stiff elm]

no way who changed the name of this channel 😭

[obsidian dune]

oh right

[peak halo]

With not the sane email

[stiff elm]

my goat gph 😭

[pine slate]

Dante is worse than pyroath on fire

[obsidian dune]

i see what u mean

[pine slate]

His use is somewhere else, not the same team as well

[obsidian dune]

i totally forgot that

[bitter locust]

So the Dmc characters are mid oh no oh no

[normal sierra]

what is this merge nonsense? I dun wanna be mixed with those plebs playing the easy pgr until now

[stray siren]

Gin needs to touch grass, it will do him good to lose 3 accounts

[bitter locust]

Is there like an ingame thingy to see what the ideal team is for Pyroath

[chilly trail]

Fk whel

[stray siren]

Nanami starrail + new vera in a few days

[stray siren]

ah yes, watanabe will be free

[woven haven]

dmc charas only good in their single element
every other new unit has 2 elememts they are meta in

[stray siren]

we need something like this, but with possible replacements

or cope teams

nanami in all

[woven haven]

It is quite literally just slap nanami or ishmael in all

if you don’t have the best option

[sullen garden]

Anyone know what the score difference is between ss Vergil and ss Selena?

[woven haven]

on which content
Trueslash or Physical

[mighty tusk]

Vergil didn't get any buffs or nerfs to his kit numbers right?

[woven haven]

no he just got some qol

regardless his performance in phys is still absolutely dogass

and if you even consider playing it you should reconsider

[mighty tusk]

https://www.bilibili.com/video/BV1nRG2zLETG/?p=1
Then this thing is still relevant

For physical that is

https://youtu.be/8CToT5NP-DI?si=Td63V03GK2TOE5K6

[raw swift]

Lesena

[woven haven]

vergil the fraud

[forest knot]

fancy QTE bot in Phys

[woven haven]

oh hello ely

fancy seeing u here

[forest knot]

hello dalao, I'm here sometimes

[dusty zodiac]

do i ss3 lucia or nanami? (or hanying, idk)

[barren plank]

Pyroath

[raw swift]

But helperlao it's expensive and I'm brokie

[forest knot]

Nanami if stepping stone to 3S, SS3 only probably Pyroath still

[raw swift]

Huanguang

[forest knot]

HY if you're investing deep in Vergil I guess, <3S Pyroath lost a bit of value in Fire when Vera came out

SS0 and SS3 Pyroath are quite closer now

[mighty tusk]

Honestly, ss3 Pyroath is kinda eh these days
Even nanami is better

[barren plank]

Maybe

[thorny bolt]

chat do i pick epitaph or shukra from the upcoming selector?

[barren plank]

I mean neither is really a bad option

[mighty tusk]

True, but nanami is fairly noticeable

[barren plank]

Assuming u have neither, probably Epitaph

Qu feels really trash without sig, at least Epitaph can contribute something without his

[thorny bolt]

yeah i dont have both, im only missing qu from the ice team while my fire team only has pyroath so far

thanks for the answer though!

[forest knot]

SS3 Nana is nice but realistically she'll only improve Lightning, Combustion with Dante noticeably, and Plasma, maybe Fire very slightly without going to 3S

A lot of her use cases are contested by 3S Wanshi in Luna setups

[peak halo]

So 3s nana that valuble?

[zenith thorn]

tell that to #📨・general-help

[woven haven]

no you tell them

[zenith thorn]

nuuh

[mighty tusk]

You both kiwi anyway so feel free to be like miku

[forest knot]

3S Nana is a big spike to invest in because then she starts taking over low investment Void, all Luna setups (Vera/Lilith solo), allows you to reorder Plasma rotations for 5 Lucia swaps, have relatively good solo performance in Combustion even against 32.3X Dante, and would be better than non 3S Wata for Fire swap rotations

Altho I'm actually not sure if her swap cd is meaningful for Vera/Lucia double DPS at low investment

[stray siren]

kiwi-help

[peak halo]

Hmm
I get a new idea for my selector next patch
My plan ss3 wata
But.....
Free 10 shards for nana

[opaque ridge]

[peak halo]

And if dmc will be 2x patch with biance
My 3s nana go home quikly

[opaque ridge]

Not even a day and already rollback to og channel

[peak halo]

Im a casual so its ez when im here

[frigid moth]

that's what I'm saying

[foggy ibex]

Whats the damage difference between SSS Dante and SS0 Pyroath for Fire?

[frigid moth]

I don't know the exact difference yet let me do the calcs again

[opaque ridge]

If u use dante for fire then ur better off saving for the next fire attacker

No pyroath?

[frigid moth]

tbh Dante SSS is pretty cheap and he gets pretty high ignition scores

[foggy ibex]

I have SS0 Pyroath, I just remember seeing something about SSS dante being comparable in fire to SS3 pyroath and below

That was like one message so it could have just been completely wrong

[frigid moth]

take that with a grain of salt

Pretty sure that was me lol

[foggy ibex]

Oh haha it might have been

[forest knot]

https://www.bilibili.com/video/BV1EkTTzpEGf/?spm_id_from=333.337.search-card.all.click

332 Dante Fire, if it helps give some perspective

[frigid moth]

What does SS pyroath score in same situation?

[opaque ridge]

Keep using pyroath, if dante had better fire damage than her, everyone would be using dante over her but u dont see that

[frigid moth]

I mean that seems higher than my fire scores atm but that might be do to Vera

[opaque ridge]

Only viable if u dont have pyroath and desperate to fill the slot

[frigid moth]

Is Vera or Epitaph SSS there?

[median spade]

nah altera he's dante that means he has to be better for fire you know

you guys just don't know it yet

[forest knot]

332

[mighty tusk]

Sss wata

[fading kestrel]

nah nah you see, im goates at dmc. If i get my hands on that royal guard, ill just win the game

[median spade]

fr fr

[frigid moth]

Would SSS Vera or SSS Wata be stronger?

[median spade]

vera newer therefore stronger

[forest knot]

2.32.32.3 Fire has gone as high as 7.7M but score variance is huge, prob safe to say 6-7M

[mighty tusk]

Not this time

Vera is comparable to wata at low invest

[median spade]

didn't she stop wata from double roting

[forest knot]

If you have 3S Vera and no one else in Fire is 3S

[median spade]

low invest speak in #📨・general-help ty

[frigid moth]

Howabout SSS Wata vs SSS Vera?

[forest knot]

Just solo

[mighty tusk]

No idea

Both are whel invest

[median spade]

finally stopped being lazy and cleaned my desktop

what do we think meta help

[maiden thicket]

nice wallpaper

[median spade]

ty

[mighty tusk]

Surely we wont be seeing non meta questions about dmc here

[fading kestrel]

Where cradle bowing

[median spade]

fck cradle

[river nymph]

i think you missed some malware above pgr

[forest knot]

2S Vera is 2S/2S3 Pyroath-level on-field DPS, the only reason she doesn't do 2 rot in Fire is because your shred downtime is huge at low investment because Pyroath stays on field longer and you sacrifice support mems and resos for Vera to do 2 rot

[fading kestrel]

https://tenor.com/view/cradle-pgr-punishing-gray-raven-gif-16604211938048062275

[median spade]

nah thats my favorite 150gbs of malware, can't part with it yet

oh wait wuwa

nah wuwa back if i win my 50/50 for carte

[maiden thicket]

its crazy that genshin still need fps unlocker in the big 25

[median spade]

if not i kiwi again

[median spade]

fck hoyo fr

[fading kestrel]

wuwa back if they fix the performance issues

[mighty tusk]

[river nymph]

[inner crown]

I should probably turn my 6 star rosetta sig into a harmony...shouldn't I

[frigid moth]

who this?

[opaque ridge]

Wata

[median spade]

if you have no sentimental attachment and +1 reso would help then yes

[frigid moth]

gotcha

[ripe stag]

Yes

[frigid moth]

So 30kbc for SSS invest

[inner crown]

I just really like rosetta but she has pretty much no place in the meta nor will she ever as she already got her leap

and I really need that reso as a f2p

[opaque ridge]

just get wallpaper engine

[ripe stag]

Watanabe

[median spade]

scrap time then

[median spade]

thats another one of my favorite malwares

[inner crown]

https://tenor.com/view/frodo-ring-lotr-lord-of-the-rings-gif-17351059

[median spade]

i almost got rid of my rosetta sig but i never brought myself to do it

[inner crown]

Yes I know this is cope, but i do have hope that one day we will get another Rosetta frame

[ripe stag]

Yo btw guys
Is new Bianca gacha only?

[peak halo]

Yomm said yes

[inner crown]

Isn't that like...all characters?

[fading kestrel]

nah given to us by mail

[inner crown]

wait what

[ripe stag]

I wanna die

[ripe stag]

That can't be true

[fading kestrel]

Im sh1tposting, its beta. Ofcourse its gacha only

[peak halo]

And now u know why i skip vergil

[ripe stag]

I mean beta already gives away if the unit is free or not

[fading kestrel]

and youve heard no one call it free, and everyone be annoyed

[raw swift]

me having to choose between gen help and gph

[orchid owl]

The illusion of choice

[fading kestrel]

gen help kinda deadge
Just come here pookie bear

[raw swift]

ok qtpie

[orchid owl]

Pgr-general 2 or gph

[raw swift]

gen help is general 2 yeah

[inner crown]

just go to general help if you have questions about like dates and times or like stuff like that, and come here for build/pull advice

thats what i do

[ripe stag]

How much Vouchers F2Ps get next patch

[raw swift]

I'll go wherever the chat is active
faster response

[ripe stag]

Hmmmmmmmmmmmm

[inner crown]

this is the true answer

[ripe stag]

Wait 24k f2p vouchers ?

[solemn spoke]

same

[fading kestrel]

triple patch bro

[raw swift]

alisa getting leap?
does anyone has any clip?

[ripe stag]

I know but 24k ?

[orchid owl]

https://tenor.com/view/first-time-meme-movie-james-cameron-western-gif-17538858

[ripe stag]

Go watch Glaciation warzone

[frigid moth]

what rank is this?

[raw swift]

I don't understand what tf is happening on screen whenever I see warzone showcases

[fading kestrel]

Ss?

[orchid owl]

Bro took the highest res screenshot and thought we wouldn't notice

[ripe stag]

It's basically
Alisa has a new dodge meter which when consumed is alisa's Glacio mode

And also no more holding basic attack to enter core passive

[raw swift]

ayy, she got glaciation affix?

[ripe stag]

Yes

[raw swift]

nice, my glacio team done then

[ripe stag]

Ok so
If I use the selector from next patch + the entire patch worth Vouchers
I can SSS Alisa

BUT there's a catch

[raw swift]

mono affix team

[ripe stag]

It'll be at the end of the patch

[forest knot]

phys rot she still holds basic, the qol is her bar when she enters core passive is auto filled 2/3rds

[ripe stag]

[forest knot]

so you only need 1 3p to fill it

[ripe stag]

Oh that's still good

[raw swift]

did she get any new attack skills in the leap or it's just passive?

[frigid moth]

Seems like it, looks like Dante can kill the new fire boss with SS amp, SSS Epitaph in 13 seconds from what I see

[ripe stag]

Which ones a better choice

• pick wata copy from selector to SS3 Wata
• pick Alisa copy from selector to SSS Alisa at the end of the patch

[fading kestrel]

What do you mean NEW fire boss??
Gwynplaine? Also what

[ripe stag]

Pyroath struggles at killing Gwyn

Ain't no way Dante does it that easily

[raw swift]

That looks like SSS+

[forest knot]

if you're willing to wait, SS3 Wata is probably better value if it helps your Fire/Combustion because they don't seem to wanna release Leaps these days

[ripe stag]

Still

[raw swift]

alisa?

[frigid moth]

That's SSS+ tho

[raw swift]

Hm

[frigid moth]

oops wrong reply lol

[ripe stag]

New attack? yes
But do you use it? No

[river nymph]

[raw swift]

Looks like dmg hax to me smh

[raw swift]

that kinda looks like a scam 👍🏻

[ripe stag]

Wait fr?

[frigid moth]

Yeah SSS Dante gets 13 seconds on hell Gwynplaine

[orchid owl]

Kinda like cw leap

[frigid moth]

SS3 wata better than Shukra since Wanshi can carry ice

[fading kestrel]

Does she not even use it for glacio?

[compact condor]

we changed the channel name to meta 😭????

[steady otter]

Who is gwyn

[ripe stag]

The Glaciation affix on Alisa allows Alisa to not only buff the damage but also increase the stay time of the ice crystal in Glacio

[raw swift]

And I already have ss3 qukra so

[frigid moth]

Fire has the harder bosses so it seems

[river nymph]

[ripe stag]

The dodge ? Yes
The slam new slam thingy? Nah

[orchid owl]

It do be like that

[raw swift]

wait so the new skill is for glacio rot?
wouldn't it be better to use the glacio skill?

[ripe stag]

New fire boss next patch

[vale raft]

This boss does not exist. Please try again.

[forest knot]

I mean it's been like 4 patches Jet Vera DMC Bianca since they release a Leap, so we don't know at this point

[steady otter]

Oh, the fat ugly bas guy

[orchid owl]

Cn or glb?

[fading kestrel]

Only element so far to get a 30m boss

[ripe stag]

Next patch for us

Say goodbye to Ballard

[steady otter]

I got 21 using 2.12.12.0 222 111

[ripe stag]

[raw swift]

Nooo ballard chan

[orchid owl]

Bro wtf we already got shortsht and balla

[forest knot]

SS0/3 Lucia won't have enough damage to solo Gwyn, most low investment iterations will use dual dps with Vera or Vera solo

[ripe stag]

Ballard removed

[compact condor]

Question,
would it be enough after saving next patch also, to SSS dmc ?

[frigid moth]

I barely got to experience him 😭

[ripe stag]

I barely 610k him

[steady otter]

2.0.20.2.0 team need rotate back to vera and deal some dmg

[ripe stag]

[raw swift]

holy smokes

[compact condor]

?

[frigid moth]

You already pulled Ishmael?

[steady otter]

Prob like 28-30s

[compact condor]

yes ofc

[raw swift]

that's the most money this broke beggar has seen

[ripe stag]

SSS DMC ? If you pull next patch no, if you don't then yes

[compact condor]

not nearly enough tho 😭

[raw swift]

idk

[orchid owl]

Just gamble fate

[ripe stag]

That's like
Shorthalt time

[compact condor]

I won't pull on anything next patch,
vera I would get her on dmc by Blue Target.

[ripe stag]

#📨・general-help

[frigid moth]

You should have around 75kbc after pulling both selena and vera

[ripe stag]

You don't belong in #📨・meta-help then

[compact condor]

so I need more, cause of pity on weapon

[ripe stag]

[steady otter]

Yeah
Low invest is >30s

https://cdn.discordapp.com/emojis/1017938018235060344.gif

[raw swift]

DMC in general when

[ripe stag]

Another barely 600k

[frigid moth]

You'll have enough for dmc SSS and SS Vera and Selena with that much

[raw swift]

doko

[compact condor]

General is too weird for me

[ripe stag]

It's filled with your kind

[compact condor]

my kind ?!

[ripe stag]

You find your species weird ?

[frigid moth]

Either way you don't need to skip

[ripe stag]

Oh my god

[frigid moth]

I just mathed it out and you should have 85k by the end of DMC

[raw swift]

Where is this frpm

[ripe stag]

Reallllllly?

[sullen garden]

how much bc is in next patch?

[compact condor]

erm.
idc about meta that's all.

waifu > meta

[ripe stag]

Ya that's why I said you belong to #💬・pgr-general and #📨・general-help

[fading kestrel]

#📨・general-help

[raw swift]

Vergil #1 waifu trust

[compact condor]

gn people

[frigid moth]

https://www.bilibili.com/video/BV1t4TCzuEqK/ this

[fading kestrel]

gn

[ripe stag]

#📨・meta-help is Meta > Waifu
#📨・general-help is Waifu > Meta + General questions

[frigid moth]

was looking for 3s dante footage

[forest knot]

https://www.bilibili.com/video/BV13so5YGEei/?spm_id_from=333.337.search-card.all.click

[compact condor]

make a channel called asking stupid questions.

[forest knot]

222 322 tho, expect probably 25s+ if you need 1 more Vera rot

[raw swift]

general help is brick?

[ripe stag]

So what do you say
SS3 Pyroath or SS3 Pianissimo?

[ripe stag]

#📨・general-help

[orchid owl]

That's what it is

[frigid moth]

Pyroath for plasma

[compact condor]

random question before I disappear.

when are we getting a server tag for pgr.

[normal sierra]

that is clearly not ss dante

[ripe stag]

When discord gives it

[compact condor]

bet

[frigid moth]

SS Dante isn't even possible

[normal sierra]

why you said it's 13s with ss then above?

[raw swift]

yk, sometimes I dream
I get rich asf, buy the whole game company and do whatever the f I want to the game

[frigid moth]

Did I? typo then let me go correct it

[cloud pumice]

Yall who should I team with ismael I don't have Luna https://huaxu.app/eu/players/16334670/characters

[raw swift]

Yeah that's what I thought too no he meant sss

[ripe stag]

Sadly your Nihil is dead if no Luna

[raw swift]

In Nihil? You're cooked without luna just run some qte bots with buff memories

[cloud pumice]

Where can I get Luna

[raw swift]

next selector

[ripe stag]

Next selector ?

[cloud pumice]

Next update?

[ripe stag]

Huh?

The next selector is next patch which is only till Qu Shukra

[raw swift]

the shukra selector patch right?

[ripe stag]

That's only till Shukra my man

[raw swift]

oh wait is oblivion above shukra rip

[cloud pumice]

Which month?

[ripe stag]

[raw swift]

@cloud pumice nvm bro your cooked

No u cant get her

[cloud pumice]

I'm just comeback

[frigid moth]

Oh I never said the rank only what the video scored, corrected it for the rank they're using

[ripe stag]

Nah you cooked unless you have your Basic Banner S rank selector

Or you have to pull on Anni banner WITHOUT BRICKING

[river nymph]

what about the thunder banner

[forest knot]

DMC has 100% rerun banner up to Selena, can only pick 1 character and cannot swap tho

[ripe stag]

Huaxu is down

Ow

[frigid moth]

Seems like SSS Dante is able to do around 12m damage to Gwynplaine in 3 seconds

[cloud pumice]

Should I select Luna or nanami?

[fading kestrel]

Nanami

[ripe stag]

Wait we can't check your account rn before saying anything

[frigid moth]

Atleast going by this although that is with SSS wata

[cloud pumice]

Why ?

[ripe stag]

Huaxu isn't loading

[cloud pumice]

Ohh rip

[frigid moth]

Startrail easily

[cloud pumice]

I'll back later and tell me who should I select ok ty

[ripe stag]

~~CW ~~

[cloud pumice]

Why starail?

[frigid moth]

Most team coverage and strongest tank

[tight trellis]

random qs, if you can SSS only one of either Startrail or Selena, which one will you do?

[normal sierra]

ohh nahh, I think I misread what you wrote
thought you meant ss dante, but now I see you meant ss vera, not dante

[frigid moth]

oh np 👍

[cloud pumice]

Startrail

[frigid moth]

Yeah SS Dante would do hyperreal level damage

[cloud pumice]

So Luna next time?

[frigid moth]

Oblivion is needed for Ishmael to do damage and she can also be used for niche ppc clears

Her universal conversion means you can hyperstack buffs on a amp or tank for high solo damage

Best used for bursting bosses down

[tight trellis]

how good is ss3 oblivion to ss oblivion?

[frigid moth]

Don't even consider it

[cloud pumice]

So oblivion not important that much?

[raw swift]

do y'all think kuro gonna asspull and give another character darkflow in leap?

[tight trellis]

aight. that saves me some bc

[frigid moth]

Ishmael does infinitely more damage and can cover better niche at high rank

[raw swift]

after vera, it's possible

[frigid moth]

She is but as a support role

[cloud pumice]

Even without oblivion I can still play ismael?

[frigid moth]

Universal conversion is cracked

[frigid moth]

You can you just won't get any shred or amp buffs for ishmael

[forest knot]

You'll still have to use Ish in Void content, she just won't receive any buffs

[frigid moth]

Best thing you can do is run Ishmael as tank in a team so you atleast have shred

[cloud pumice]

Rn which characters should I team with ismael https://huaxu.app/eu/players/16334670/characters

Ismael lillith and ?

[forest knot]

Any attacker you like, waifu up

[frigid moth]

Ishmael, Lilith, and Lamia

Especially since Lamia is already built to fill in the attacker role

[cloud pumice]

Ohh ok I'll try ty

[tight trellis]

really depends what gamemode you're playing. different comps for warzone/ppc, story mode

[cloud pumice]

Wait can u tell me the build of ismael and lilith

[frigid moth]

For lilith 4pc guin, 4p da vinci

[cloud pumice]

2456?

[frigid moth]

Run the 2pc gloria on lamia since it's universal, and your main dps build for Ishmael

[frigid moth]

position generally doesn't matter too much for this

Da vinci bottom tho

[cloud pumice]

Ohh 2456 is good for that

4pc da Vinci for ismael?

[frigid moth]

Da vinci on lilith, Ishmael runs her usual dps set if being used for nihil or fast speed ppc clears

[cloud pumice]

Ohh I don't understand ahh 🙂

[frigid moth]

Support build is generally universal

2pc Eins if matching elemental with harmony otherwise 4pc guin is better for teams with elemental disparity

And obviously 4pc da vinci so you can proc it

[cloud pumice]

So 1,3 Eins 2,4,5,6 guins?

[pulsar crow]

is sss ishmael worth it

[tight trellis]

SSS ishmael is whel territory. ss3 is good enough for her

[pearl solstice]

Is sss Ishmael still better than sss Luna as dps

[orchid owl]

[worthy gulch]

LMAO

[orchid owl]

[river nymph]

luna is pretty mediocre

[pearl solstice]

Huh ok

Didn't know she is considered mediocre now

[tight trellis]

[orchid owl]

I'd put money on SS0 ishmael being better than 3S Luna

[ripe stag]

Her damage is WAY less than Ishmael

[orchid owl]

Even S+ Luna

[pearl solstice]

Huh

Is that why she is sub dps now

[fading kestrel]

luna will eternatlly be meta cause of the passive. but her damage kinda

[orchid owl]

[pearl solstice]

Ok

Thanks

[fading kestrel]

moooooooods

where art archive channel

[river nymph]

we need a new annihilator

[pearl solstice]

Ohh

Like Alisa will be around but doodoo dmg

[fading kestrel]

cradle annihilator

[tight trellis]

passive. eternal red tide

[worthy gulch]

Would be dope

Male please

[tight trellis]

female pls

[orchid owl]

At least luna didn't get the cw treatment (wait till they drop the nihil tank )

[worthy gulch]

[fading kestrel]

https://tenor.com/view/emoji-angry-emoji-gun-discord-gif-27622410

lee annihilator actually. das better

[orchid owl]

https://tenor.com/view/klavier-gavin-i-hate-you-phoenix-wright-apollo-justice-klavier-gif-27381984

[tight trellis]

[tight trellis]

https://tenor.com/view/girl-power-feminism-muscle-girl-female-bodybuilder-trixie-tang-gif-2617072107852917396

[river nymph]

vonnegut trust

[tight trellis]

new annihilator will be another bianca frame. trust in solon

[worthy gulch]

Oh wow Phys again

[fading kestrel]

https://tenor.com/view/monkey-anguish-despair-gif-13915908866750092639

[worthy gulch]

[tight trellis]

in time for selena?

or too early

[fading kestrel]

not at all

[tight trellis]

ah crap early by 1 day

[pearl solstice]

I mean

[river nymph]

[pearl solstice]

Selena is

[mighty tusk]

Hot

[sand laurel]

https://tenor.com/view/bridget-ardeo-pgr-bridget-pgr-pgr-bridget-gif-6727494686276777476

[fading kestrel]

fact check? false

[pearl solstice]

Don't put words in my mouth

[maiden thicket]

peak

[mighty tusk]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/1337342646309359618/1352491175457853481/lv_0_20250320212555.gif

[tight trellis]

https://tenor.com/view/oh-my-omg-so-hot-gif-19803505

[fading kestrel]

thats adorable. not hot

[orchid owl]

Yeh she just kawaii

[pearl solstice]

Selena looks cold hearted there

[tight trellis]

why is skk pointing a gun at my baby

[mighty tusk]

Find out on the next episode of.

[pearl solstice]

Pgr

[orchid owl]

You know what's hot?

[worthy gulch]

4 week legend retain comes to an end with this

[pearl solstice]

[fading kestrel]

you

[tight trellis]

she better not die again

[orchid owl]

https://tenor.com/view/stellar-blade-nod-meme-gif-4572483295252815353

[fading kestrel]

fk whel. deserved

[pearl solstice]

Damn stop exposing me

[orchid owl]

I was gonna post another gif but mods might have my head

[fading kestrel]

[maiden thicket]

do it or no balls

https://tenor.com/view/ishmael-pgr-ishmael-pgr-pgr-ishmael-ult-gif-1272441815827538538

[fading kestrel]

got my first ever timeout yesterday. really funny

[worthy gulch]

I called a mod rightless yday, do it or no balls

[tight trellis]

do it. mods sleeping now

[weary harness]

Does Nihil team clear Clash faster than Plasma beam?