📨・meta-help

[ripe stag]

Isn't the cooldown on Eins independent

[still moat]

Just activate plasma with pyro and then qte on lilith

[ripe stag]

@past thicket thanks to you too

[still moat]

U can have the Daren situation albeit not together at the same time

[ripe stag]

Alisa still on Class passive in glacio right ?

[ripe stag]

I see

[still moat]

It's still overall not worth it over 4 guin

Pyro's burst is really high

[forest knot]

for Selena PPC, I don't think there's a single scenario where you'd run 4 DV 4 Patt lol, it's either 4 Sig 4 Patt for sub DPS or 4 Sig 4 DV for solo Selena burst, Patt is too low value as support set against Philip/Cath/4 Hanying sig

[ripe stag]

Oh so I need a 4 sig 4 dv for Hanying ?

[forest knot]

to minmax Vergil/Sel solo burst yea

should be the most common setup

[steady otter]

just for glacio
pyroath case is different

glacio eins carry on ppc is wanshi

[ripe stag]

What's his set?

4 dv 2 Gloria 2 Eins ?

[steady otter]

yep

[ripe stag]

Where's Chen

[steady otter]

eh sorry

[ripe stag]

I already have a 4 dv 4 chen

[steady otter]

4 chen 2 eins 2 gloria

[ripe stag]

[ripe stag]

Oh wow

[steady otter]

4 guin 4 dv alisa

[ripe stag]

That's inconvenient af

To build

[steady otter]

cuz alisa the problem

wz wanshi using 4 sign 4 chen

alisa is same

[fluid gulch]

Bro, who let Lotte in gph

This is why gph should've never split

[steady otter]

this is right

[ripe stag]

Done

[steady otter]

even your ion bar still off, you can proc eins lilith idk why

[ripe stag]

Any other changes

Like any other team

like Plasma for ppc

I'm gonna get all units ready

[still moat]

Pretty sure ppc/IB plasma is 4dv 4heisen nana 4guin 2 eins 2cottie lilith

[true pivot]

damn, i really love this channel now

[still moat]

Cottie is probably interchangeable

If u have enough dmg and wants speed then go cottie

[steady otter]

im using 4 sign 2 phillip 2 cath on echo
4 dv 4 patton on hanying
idk this is right or no for ppc

[true pivot]

we have cleared the toxicity into gh and now we have proper advices on mh

[vale raft]

This memory does not exist. Please try again.

[still moat]

I created the chaos on genhelp

[vale raft]

Chang Wuzi ★★★★★★

2pc Set Bonus

Physical DMG increases by 10%.

4pc Set Bonus

Harmonic Orb's Base DMG increases by 100%. The effect of Piercing Blow launched by Hanying: Solacetune increases by 20%. Upon quitting the Lunartone Field, the field will still exist for 12s and deal 50% Physical DMG to enemies within it once every second.

ATK

132

CRIT

66

DEF

223

HP

1491

[steady otter]

go ahead buddy

[true pivot]

is ss0 selena different than ss3 in terms of gameplay?

[still moat]

Wdym go ahead it's already happening

[steady otter]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/emojis/1017938018235060344.gif

[steady otter]

for flower ult, yes
ss0, hold evade - white orb - hold evade
ss3, white orb - hold evade

[true pivot]

[steady otter]

maybe 2 secs gap different

[true pivot]

due to sp issues?

[steady otter]

thats huge actually

[steady otter]

no, u need to wait her bar on ss0

[somber axle]

Is the flower ult for glacio or do you use that on phys too

[true pivot]

damn

[steady otter]

ofc

flower ult deal way more dmg than orchestra ult

[slate gull]

im gonna wreck pianissimo 's flower

oops

[fluid gulch]

https://tenor.com/view/you-sould-now-lightning-punishing-gray-raven-gif-154166725669051465

Yeah, me too

[quiet basalt]

Wait what happened to Gameplay Channel? Meta now?

[still moat]

We are free from dmc question, mostly

[fading kestrel]

split up into meta help and general help. das it

[quiet basalt]

Ooooh nice then

[fading kestrel]

bestie theyre all gonna come here anyway cause it has the funny meta word
youre cooked

[still moat]

Nuh uh we are calling mods to get them out of here

[fluid gulch]

I will meta advise them out

[quiet basalt]

Meta their asses into misinfo general

[quiet lily]

hello chat, what is good rank for vergil and dante?

[still moat]

S0

[quiet lily]

[raw swift]

SSS+

[slate forge]

Do yall bite?

[raw swift]

Yes

[azure barn]

I do

[quiet lily]

i chew

[azure barn]

and you're gonna like it

[raw swift]

https://tenor.com/view/changli-wuthering-waves-wuwa-waifu-bite-gif-9814565880565908788

[slate forge]

That's kinda freaky
You match my freak 👅

[azure barn]

but yeah anyways get Shukra

and if possible try to get her Sig (with R1)

[remote pulsar]

https://tenor.com/view/chomp-bite-arm-gif-7083692912057941766

[azure barn]

not possible rn tho

since we have 2 S Ranks next patch, and both of them are more important than Shukra

[slate gull]

what if i have shukra at 3S already, who do i get

[slate forge]

Ok so
Im 1 shard away from wanshi
Would get pyroath from that selector from thunder manual

[azure barn]

used ur Standard Selector already?

[slate forge]

On nanami startrail

[fluid gulch]

I'm gonna eat you whole

[raw swift]

Naruhodo

[azure barn]

sounds hot

[slate forge]

Yk that's kinda hot 👅

[quiet lily]

this abt selector next patch? wata then

[fluid gulch]

Y'ALL ARE FREAKY

||Same as me||

[slate forge]

U were the one who started 🫦

[fluid gulch]

Damn

[slate gull]

he's also 3S. but i still havent bought his ppc shards. is his 3S3 worth it tho?

[fluid gulch]

[slate forge]

Anyways so
Uncle 😒
Or
Queen shukra 👅❣️❣️😍🥰

[fluid gulch]

the g word

[quiet lily]

buff sig iirc, kinda not worth

but then who else is even there, maybe feral?

[slate forge]

Also sm1 told me shukra kinda chopped without her signature

[fluid gulch]

https://tenor.com/view/frankt-gif-23053748

[azure barn]

not just kinda, she's literally unplayable without her Sig 💀

[slate gull]

aight, my feral also 3S. so this selector aint much of value for me then. 3S3 wata it is

[quiet lily]

♿ = shukra without sig

[azure barn]

inaccurate, the dude still has hands

[quiet lily]

fk whel

ye 3s3 wata then

[slate forge]

Oh...

On the other hand ishmael is more prettier

So maybe I should go with watanabe

[thorn bramble]

Just pick vera garnet trust me

[slate forge]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/757563597944520784/1376227424580272209/speech_bubble_42.gif

[flint igloo]

The perish in 3 🥀

[slate forge]

Bro where are the people who were supposed to help me choose 🥀

[thorn bramble]

Me

[slate forge]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/765929489821204540/1375014539996696687/attachment-82.gif

[raw swift]

Be not afraid, for I am here!

[slate gull]

you got Qu and Wata to choose from. either is fine if you dont have them already

[raw swift]

Nevermind I must go! Start fearing again!

[thorn bramble]

Send huaxu

[flint igloo]

Who is trs? For the blind, they are vision. For the hungry, they are the chef. For the thirsty, they are water. For the horni, they are prawn. If trs think, I agree. If trs speak, I'm listening. If trs have a million fans, I am one of them. If trs have ten fans, I am one of them. If trs have only one fan, that is me. If trs have no fans, I no longer exist. If the whole world are against trs, I am against the whole world. I will love trs until my very last breath

[slate gull]

Who is trs? For the blind, they are vision. For the hungry, they are the chef. For the thirsty, they are water. For the horni, they are prawn. If trs think, I agree. If trs speak, I'm listening. If trs have a million fans, I am one of them. If trs have ten fans, I am one of them. If trs have only one fan, that is me. If trs have no fans, I no longer exist. If the whole world are against trs, I am against the whole world. I will love trs until my very last breath

[thorn bramble]

Who is trs? For the blind, they are vision. For the hungry, they are the chef. For the thirsty, they are water. For the horni, they are prawn. If trs think, I agree. If trs speak, I'm listening. If trs have a million fans, I am one of them. If trs have ten fans, I am one of them. If trs have only one fan, that is me. If trs have no fans, I no longer exist. If the whole world are against trs, I am against the whole world. I will love trs until my very last breath

[sand laurel]

ayo, trs has been girls feetin too

https://tenor.com/view/foot-guinny-zzz-playing-gif-399640790459290153

[slate forge]

Pyroath from the selector
Wanshi from the shop

[slate forge]

But who's the most meta coded
I need to feed the meta slave inside me

[slate forge]

S-sen-..sensei dont go

[slate gull]

both still are meta. atleast for now

[slate forge]

But who's MORE meta
Who can give that big ass numbers and that fast clear

[still moat]

Can save and wait who is getting the next leap

If they get leap chances are their lifespan could be longer

[slate gull]

yep

[slate forge]

Hmm ok

[slate gull]

listen to dalao, he's right

[fluid gulch]

Male? Getting a leap?

[remote pulsar]

no feet no life i guess?

[fluid gulch]

Blasphemy

[thorn bramble]

Choose wata

[remote pulsar]

why are there #📨・meta-help and #📨・general-help

[thorn bramble]

Wata It may be useful to you without signature and shukra without sig 💀💀

[slate forge]

Hmm okie

[worthy gulch]

Wata leap trust

[slate gull]

the great divide

[slate gull]

umbra affix?

[worthy gulch]

I dont even care what affix, just extend my bois life span

But umbra seems fitting

[quiet basalt]

Wait for him to suffer the nanami fire tank treatment

[lusty minnow]

Imagine is light affix

[worthy gulch]

Bro ill take it

Sparkly wata

[lusty minnow]

[still moat]

It's probably gonna be umbra yea

[tardy stump]

to all meta player:

[still moat]

We will get glow tank, ts atker and burn amp on new units

[thorn bramble]

Just give kamui new frame 🥀

[still moat]

What if I say one of them is kamui

[slate gull]

angel's tongue

[fluid gulch]

I can't believe Zexlao left

[quiet lily]

eww male

[remote pulsar]

so where is Goonerhelp gonna be in?

[slate gull]

goonerhelp must exist on all channels

[remote pulsar]

fair enough

[worthy gulch]

Would be a huge W

[chilly trail]

Just noticed that theres no free money recently

[still moat]

Btw I said those because it's just my prediction and assumption, no leek or anything

[worthy gulch]

[lusty minnow]

New lightning attacker will be Kamui

New ice amp will be Sophia

https://tenor.com/view/false-facts-fake-news-gif-3718583105056900815

[slate gull]

we all know it's rosetta

trust me bro

[lusty minnow]

Dont assume or Bianca situation will be happening again

[slate gull]

new element and new affix

[quiet lily]

next lightning attacker will be new alpha

[lusty minnow]

[tired plume]

is it worth spending my tickets here? I finished regular mode now

[worthy gulch]

Are you whel ?

[tired plume]

im f2p

[fluid gulch]

New dark tank is changyu

[distant wren]

yea only whels are allowed in this channel sorry bro

(jk)

[tired plume]

I haven't used any tickets yet, I'm saving them for a good occasion

[slate gull]

save for next banner

[distant wren]

but yea f2p shouldn't use your bc on that banner

[fluid gulch]

No

[distant wren]

save to pull next patch, there are 2 gacha S ranks

[pseudo jasper]

i did ping the last orb tho, u can check that again
otherwise my orb count would be 6 instead of 8 before first rot ult2

[lusty minnow]

[stuck sphinx]

Mods taking it all for themselves

[slate gull]

mods get paid?

[fluid gulch]

Yes, they steal our freebies

[slate gull]

😠 💢 👿 😡

[worthy gulch]

They ballin bro, no cap

[raw swift]

They steal those 50$ steam giftd

[slate gull]

that's coz you keep pinging them whenever someone gives 50$ steam gifts

[remote pulsar]

if being a mod gets paid, ill do it

[stray siren]

[waxen kindle]

Gotta be fair yk

[stuck sphinx]

[errant ledge]

Hi guys, anyone knows what's the best memo for lucid dreamer and it's positions?

[waxen kindle]

For dps or qte bot

[errant ledge]

Qte bot since i got qu

[waxen kindle]

Uhh well that's not how it works

Ld still uses his dps build in wz

[errant ledge]

Then... What should i do...

[waxen kindle]

Type /build ld and choose ur build

Also what's ur invest

[fluid gulch]

Qu is not strong enough to ignore LD

[barren plank]

Try to refrain from using bot commands in the actual help channels

[errant ledge]

Only S, no sig

[errant ledge]

Ah thankss

[waxen kindle]

Both ld and qu?

[fluid gulch]

Is this Qu or Wanshi?

[errant ledge]

Qu only S but have sig

[waxen kindle]

Then ld qte in ppc and dps in wz

Or wait I think u need him using dps in ppc too

[barren plank]

Wait

I just realized

Im going to have to fcking rereso my Hanying

for next patch

[stray siren]

Class

[errant ledge]

So... What build should i get? (And memo position)

[waxen kindle]

https://tenor.com/view/noise-pizza-tower-noise-update-the-noise-gif-11757225384127768877

[waxen kindle]

Ima assume that you're low on mats so use the dps build only
Mems position don't really matter much

[barren plank]

Does she even still find use from her core set?

[fluid gulch]

Acting like it's a problem, you should have 200k sb currency atleast

[errant ledge]

Ah alrightt, so what is it? The dps set

[barren plank]

I have like zero lmao

[worthy gulch]

You just ruined my day

[waxen kindle]

It's in the bot lol

[fluid gulch]

Um, uhh, 🧱

How did you manage to ACTUALLY spend all of them?

[barren plank]

Building Haicma

[fluid gulch]

https://tenor.com/view/bro-is-finished-cooked-finished-dog-closing-eyes-dog-with-eyes-closed-gif-8933440936102921947

[waxen kindle]

Me when i spam random mem reso

[barren plank]

I didnt have that much before building her anyways tho

[fluid gulch]

...Why did you build Haicma?

[waxen kindle]

My goat washed

[barren plank]

Shits and giggles

[fluid gulch]

Fair.

[barren plank]

Ngl I completely forgot I would have to rereso Solacetune

[fluid gulch]

I guess you just save serum for now

[stray siren]

I don't think so

Maybe in IB

[analog mango]

Finally
#whale-help

[slate gull]

are you a whale?

[stuck sphinx]

When your other option is pl*me it’s not even that bad

[barren plank]

My plume is base S anyways

In not building her

[waxen kindle]

Hi not building her I'm Hyro

[barren plank]

Heh it says in

[stray siren]

Everyone in this chat is whale

[fading kestrel]

https://media.discordapp.net/stickers/1268424673016807465.gif?size=160&name=PLOOMIN'+TIME!

[fluid gulch]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/emojis/1013401233425432596.gif?v=1

[river nymph]

guys imagine if haicma got an omniframe

[slate gull]

instant s+

[barren plank]

I mean it's definitely in the realm of possibility since Nanami is still very relevant to the story, but not very likely

[rough mica]

meta help noww

https://media.discordapp.net/attachments/1242975298912522412/1382664317400514651/image0.gif?=&width=320&height=320

[slate gull]

yes to keep away meta haters

[fading kestrel]

Haicma a rank ice glow attacker next patch trust

[slate gull]

would be nice

[vale raft]

Current Roadmap (as of Jun 15th 2025)

[stray siren]

= ded chat

[remote pulsar]

haicma feels, sounds and looks boring, idk why people like her

[summer topaz]

she is actually fun to play if you got her sig

[remote pulsar]

never gotten into the uniframes

[river nymph]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/1122572543556071504/1361596904323944558/assemble-coolness-kingdom.gif

[slate gull]

4 S ranks in a row. surely the next patch after bianca is A rank

[river nymph]

help me dalao

[remote pulsar]

hopefully

[river nymph]

haicma haters

[remote pulsar]

im not hatiing just cant seem to like it

[rough mica]

https://media.discordapp.net/attachments/865899693468418049/1199236675470118982/image0.gif

[stray siren]

I really hope

[rough mica]

u got someone else alr

[river nymph]

[fluid gulch]

Just #skipdmc, smh

[slate gull]

can i cope with nanami ignition?

[fluid gulch]

Yes

Her solo burn rot is even more braindead than light

[slate gull]

wow, is this my first time coping

[fluid gulch]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=b6PJPXZCLgo

[still moat]

[fluid gulch]

who dis

[still moat]

[slate gull]

ploom

[still moat]

looks like another retain

[fluid gulch]

WHAT IS THIS LEGEND BRACKET

How come I never encounter smth like that😭

[slate gull]

bro is unlucky

im lucky too

[still moat]

[fluid gulch]

Fire area feels so sht to play

Thank you empy weather

[slate gull]

join warzone when the dalaos are asleep, you'll get a good bracket

[ripe stag]

Goddamn whales

[slate gull]

f2p btw

[ripe stag]

No you aren't

Ready for Glaciation?

Tbf I'm not pulling Selena for Physical, but got Glaciation

Gotta kill my fingers with the rot

[slate gull]

my wanshi just got S+ this week

[river nymph]

wanshi needs red for glacio

[slate gull]

i need to learn glacio rot. got any?

[river nymph]

i would only know for sss

[slate gull]

you're my dalao then

[frank kindle]

not even sss echo

[river nymph]

ok then just watch everything on this channel

https://youtu.be/Yp6ZG4hFh1E?si=zu0GxVtxKWq9b65X

[slate gull]

thank you

[river nymph]

heres another

https://youtu.be/FLaIAj5OI48?si=x6rOd7k6Fwlt2bjx

[slate gull]

t.y. t.y.

[elfin garnet]

Hey all, as a person who doesn't really care for DMC or the crossover event, how important/unimportant is it that I build Dante/Vergil? Where is their place in the meta and stuff? I'm trying to see if I can just save during that whole event

[ripe stag]

Fund it

[ripe stag]

If you wanna pursue immediate Ultima Slash and Ignition contents in their meta levels (I mean legit high scores) then Dante and Vergil are must with atleast SS3 + R1 sig + cub

But then again

Since they are Collab units their meta stay is not gonna be long unlike other units

[elfin garnet]

I do pursue these things. However, will actual Ignition stages be appearing by the time they drop? And is Vergil better than Hanying Bianca Alisa for Ultima?

[ripe stag]

SS0 is enough but yea

The difference between SS3 and SS0 for Vergil is good

[ripe stag]

Ignition Warzone and Ignition Intensive Battle stages gets added in-game in the event

So they basically gave Dante a ground to work on

[frigid moth]

I'd say building Vergil is more important than Dante due to the fact Startrail handles ignition better than Balter can handler true slash

[ripe stag]

Ultima Slash got Ultimate PPC boss on DMC Collab

[fluid gulch]

Wait, no ignition ppc boss? Just IB boss?

[ripe stag]

Not rn yea

[fluid gulch]

https://tenor.com/view/free-gif-13304638932589783966

[ripe stag]

But isn't Vergil SS0 is like WEAK

[frigid moth]

Shouldn't be weaker than Balter

as long as he has his sig atleast

[ripe stag]

I know it's significantly stronger than balter

[slate gull]

it hurts my very being to even spend a single BC on these dmc units. smh

[ripe stag]

But is it enough to beat 223 121 111 Glaciation on slash ppc boss

[elfin garnet]

Hmm. I feel like it may be more overall value for me to skip investing in Vergil/Dante and just wait for the non-collab Affix units for Ignition and Ultima

[ripe stag]

I'll try pulling Vergil just to collect

[frigid moth]

Wouldn't know until DMC comes out for global

[ripe stag]

If anything I don't wanna waste bc unless really needed

[frigid moth]

They will eventually powercreep the collabs in any case

[ripe stag]

Btw how big is the gap between SS0 and SS3 Selena in Glaciation

[frigid moth]

Pretty significant

[fluid gulch]

You heard him Ezra

[ripe stag]

?

[ripe stag]

And SS0 and SS3 Pyroath on Plasma ?

I'm still confused between if I should SS3 Pyroath or Selena

I can only go for 1

[frigid moth]

Is her SS3, won't perform as strong as plasma team it's just way too cracked

[tired plume]

is it worthing getting these ?

[elfin garnet]

Fair point. And he is on discount right? I'll grab him just to have been there and then call it there. Although i am quite meta focused, I think I can wait until the non-collab units come. I'll just chill in Hero WZ sometimes until then ig

[frigid moth]

SS3 Pryoath is a very powerful investment

[barren plank]

No uniframes are outdated and have no content to be used in

[ripe stag]

No

[elfin garnet]

No imo. Not for meta

[fading kestrel]

never
just pretend that banner doesnt exist

[frigid moth]

SS3 Selena is right behind her in value tho

[tired plume]

oh ok thanks

[barren plank]

Is Tuning the hold dodge?

[ripe stag]

So should get SS3 Pyroath instead of SS3 Selena if I have only 1 option?

[barren plank]

I would still go Pyroath yea, tho obv both is good

[ripe stag]

Wait
How you got beta

[barren plank]

That looks like a translation

[ripe stag]

Is it?

[barren plank]

Yea it's the same as Ko's

[ripe stag]

Damn that looks hell of an in-game font

[frigid moth]

yup

[ripe stag]

Yea cuz beta isn't out yet

[elfin garnet]

The Uniframe's most viable usage imo is in Guild Simulated Siege battles on the red side. They give you trail Uniframes there, but if you have your own then you can score even higher. In my guild, we compete based of simulated siege for promotions just for some extra little PvP fun in there, so it helps for that. Otherwise not much use so if u dont care about Simulated Siege in guild then dont pull id say

[frigid moth]

I'm hyped for next patch

[ripe stag]

I can't make guide for Selena nor Vera rn

[frigid moth]

Yup

[ripe stag]

Exams are literally from the day of the patch release

[barren plank]

Oh wait that's huge actually

[frigid moth]

10000% glaciation is crazy

[barren plank]

Bro how many exams do u have

[slate gull]

10000

[barren plank]

It feels like ur always taking some sort of test

[ripe stag]

This my last sem

[river nymph]

does orisa need dlt for glacio?

[barren plank]

Yes

[ripe stag]

Then I have some extra exams to give cuz I missed some semesters

[river nymph]

[frigid moth]

So SS3 would put that up to 20000% glacio that's crazy

[elfin garnet]

Is Vergil a side grade to Selena though in just physical (at what investment would he match her)? and is Dante sidegrade fire to Lucia?

[frank kindle]

ss0 selena, sss0 lucid, ss0 echo; 5,6m legend wz;
ss3 selena, sss0 lucid, sss0 echo, 8,9m legend wz;
diff in echo is pretty significant so cant really tell how much selena alone would give score increase

[ripe stag]

Basically since I'm juggling between work, home and studies I can't give some exams during end-semester exams. So I have to make up for them during the other semesters

[ripe stag]

No

[vale raft]

Selena: Pianissimo

Skill - SSS

Stardust Echoes

Level 1 - Unlocked at SS3

When Temperament is at 60, Concerto Orbs grant twice the amount of Variation Points. Every 1 Quaver consumed increases the Base DMG of the next Fullbloom Tuning by 20%, up to 100%. After casting Signature - Howling Tempest/Signature - Forlorn Flower's Final Rest, Base DMG of QTE increases by 500% for the rest of the battle.

Level 2 - Unlocked at SSS

Upon entering the battlefield, immediately gains 1 Quaver, 12 Signature Energy, and 1 Signal Orb. Increase the maximum amount of Quavers to 5. After an orb skill, the next Basic Attack - Bladed Resonance will consume up to 6 Signal Orbs and convert them into Quavers. When Selena has 4/5 Quavers, DMG Amplification for Basic Attack - Bladed Resonance increases to 300%/600%. Selena's Extra DMG Bonus increases by 100% during Lingering Echo state.

[frigid moth]

Is SSS3 Wanshi significant?

[ripe stag]

Vergil's weaker than even Balter in Physical

[frank kindle]

[barren plank]

He's not THAT bad

That's a bit of an exaggeration

[frank kindle]

issue is u do like 1.5 rot and rest is han + vergil qte

[frigid moth]

Vergil is still a gen 3

[ripe stag]

I want SSS0 echo man

[barren plank]

It's something like S+ vergil = SSS Selena

[elfin garnet]

oof. im glad i asked thanks. yea he just gonna be a trophy then

[frigid moth]

But he IS locked to just Beowulf in physical

[ripe stag]

Wait fr ?

[frigid moth]

indeed

[barren plank]

Yea it's like more or less like Dante

[frank kindle]

buy out all bps next patch and u get 95k vouchers from whole patch

[ripe stag]

Ok then I'm skipping Selena

Going for s+ Vergil

[ripe stag]

Give me the funds

[frank kindle]

also it's 1.5 rot vergil + han carrying virgin on her back

[ripe stag]

It costs more than my monthly spending on myself

[elfin garnet]

tbh if they just equal out at s+ then id rather just get sss selena

[slate gull]

what

[frigid moth]

tbh alot of Vergil's damage is off field

[ripe stag]

I mean she's future proof and Vergil's not

[frank kindle]

yea, han + qte vergil

[ripe stag]

Wait ain't it the same for most attackers now?

[frigid moth]

SSS Vergil actually has a better off field then Selena pretty sure

[fluid gulch]

[frank kindle]

i wonder what rank would dante sss compared to pyro wise in terms of score

[frigid moth]

Selena is 500% meanwhile Vergil

[ripe stag]

Probably SSS0 vs SS3 ?

[elfin garnet]

in my heart S+ dante < S Lucia

[frank kindle]

ngl would be crazy if it was true, cuz i have ss0 pyro and will have sss bros

[frigid moth]

SSS Dante = SS3 Pyroath from what I've seen and calculated

[slate gull]

the naming is so ass and corny tbh

[frank kindle]

at least it would be kinda omega viable for plasma + fire rot on ppc

[frigid moth]

His SSS

[mighty dock]

in burn vs fire warzone?

[frank kindle]

fire vs fire

[frigid moth]

fire

[mighty dock]

interesting

[frigid moth]

His SSS is a significant increase

[still moat]

stop saying that

[frank kindle]

[still moat]

if u wanna do that go to #📨・general-help

[frigid moth]

In any case Dante is a pretty cheap meta unit for burn ignition

[ripe stag]

Ain't no way I'm gonna see myself being topped by a DMC fan

[frigid moth]

21k for SSS

[fluid gulch]

[normal sierra]

even 1 is too much for dmcring chars

[frigid moth]

Depends if you mastered Pyroath's rot she'll clear

[slate gull]

bold of you to assume they got wata and vera

[ripe stag]

Me? Pyroath? Yea sure

[still moat]

dante being cheap to SSS has nothing to do with how he perform at SSS vs pyro ss3

[ripe stag]

Pyroath's the only unit I'm terrible at apart from Lilith proper rotation

Not the Zaza rot I'm using

[still moat]

this is like the 7th time u are getting called out for claiming that without any proofs

[frigid moth]

I'm referring to ignition meta nor fire

[tall gust]

Since general help is dead imma ask here instead
I'm saving my standard selector and like I'm planning to not get Qu

Since the next patch gives us a free Watanabe

[still moat]

yeah and im referring to ur previous claim earlier

stop saying that keep it to urself if u cant prove it

[frigid moth]

Dante and Vergil are cope options for raw physical and elemental

[tall gust]

My question is
What are the chances that Vera and Selena get added to the Standard Selector? 🤔

[slate gull]

free watanabe?

[frigid moth]

As much as I can prove it, I genuinely don't have the time rn to do it

[frank kindle]

selena on dmc patch iirc

[frigid moth]

I'll make a spreadsheet at some point tho

[tall gust]

AWESOME

[still moat]

so u cant prove it, good then like i said keep it to urself

[tall gust]

So i can get selena and vera while getting the sparda bros

So cool
thanks og

[still moat]

like is it so hard to keep ur headcanon ? u claiming those stuff could be easily interpreted as misinfo

[frigid moth]

I already have proved it to myself I just haven't saved any of the calcs I made

[still moat]

keep it to urself for the 100th times

[frigid moth]

next time I'm actually saving that stuff so I have raw info to show

[frigid moth]

yes

Dante will be free Vergil will only cost 10.5k bc

[tall gust]

Yeah I'm hoarding 70k bc to get them to SSS

[frigid moth]

You'll be left with spare bc after next patch

[ripe stag]

Do you plan for like meta invest or collection for Dante and Vergil ?

[tall gust]

and brick my account for the remaining 3 months but I'll still play cuz game is awesome

[frigid moth]

Yeah I'm at 72kbc rn

[ripe stag]

#📨・general-help

[tall gust]

U need 77.5k bc to guarantee damn gg

[ripe stag]

[frigid moth]

84k if you lose weapon pity

[tall gust]

It's ok i never lose

Also between Vergil And Selena

[ripe stag]

#📨・general-help for non-meta DMC talks

[tall gust]

which one does more damage outside of their affix
physical damage

[ripe stag]

Selena ofc

[tall gust]

Thanks

[frigid moth]

Selena carries physical on her back

[stray siren]

Just add another channel called missinfo-help, for DMC related questions

[frigid moth]

more like brick help

[ripe stag]

Remember
Physical is so strong with Pianissimo that people used S+ Physical on Ultima Slash Intensive Battle and got near similar score to S+ TS team with Vergil

[still moat]

ezra at some point u gotta do something with that guy if he keeps saying the same thing in this channel

[ripe stag]

Windbell sent a screenshot of it

[frigid moth]

Why are you even offended by it

[still moat]

did u just ask me why am i mad by misinfo ?

go to #📨・general-help brother

[frigid moth]

Nothing I say is exactly wrong tho you're just misinterpreting what I'm trying to say

[ripe stag]

@frigid moth btw do you have spreadsheets or any source to like see the damage gaps you told me about?

[frigid moth]

I was making them earlier but I forgot to save them

[ripe stag]

......

[frigid moth]

I simply did the math for their attack values looked into what combos people used like Empress

And adjusted the numbers based on those attacks and how their SS3-SSS skills effect them

[slate gull]

bruh, things dont work that way

[frigid moth]

Dante has alot of raw dmg increases in the SS3-SSS range

[frigid moth]

wdym

[slate gull]

calcs are all theoreticals. it doesnt always work in actual.

[frigid moth]

maybe which is why I say to take everything I say with a grain of salt, I'm not trying to say I'm the be all source for this

Just in general tho if we know what the damage rotation is

It's pretty simple to math the time it takes for that rot and how much damage it does

Than knowing what effects those values in the kit go accordingly from there

[stray siren]

There is a 50% chance that what Kuro wrote in character is not real

It happens with all the characters

[frigid moth]

fair lol

[tall gust]

Really? LOL

[slate gull]

yeah but have you considered everything with all variables and factors? you're just calculating one thing. best way to prove it is in actual. see score difference in same wz area, ppc boss, etc

[frigid moth]

I'm taking that stuff into account too

Dante does his rot in 6 seconds so at minimum that puts a ppc boss timer at 11

Most realistically at 12-13 tho at SSS

[outer lintel]

is nanami 5* wep way worse than the 6* option?

[tall gust]

I mean yeah

[slate gull]

no

[outer lintel]

[frigid moth]

but everything rn is theoretical I will give more accurate info when August comes around

[slate gull]

nanami sig is good

[tall gust]

As in
of course the sig weapon would perform better

[fluid gulch]

she does double the dmg with her sig

[outer lintel]

can I cope with the 5* tho lol?

[frigid moth]

you can

[fluid gulch]

Also you lose access to Harmo without it

[tall gust]

Yeah

[outer lintel]

damn sigs are pretty good

[stray siren]

It's not as drastic as everything being fake, but there are details that can be altered in the gameplay

Like, idk, the game can say that a tank reduces resistance for 8s, but once you play, you realize that they are actually 11s. Or details like that

Or the character has a bug

Etc

[frigid moth]

Harmony makes the most difference

[stray siren]

That's why it's always best to play the character

[frigid moth]

Harmonizing opens up team builds pretty significantly

[outer lintel]

what's harmony?

[frigid moth]

where you put a 2pc set on a 6 star weapon

[slate gull]

a 6 star weapon feature that lets you use an additional 2pc set

[outer lintel]

ohh yes yes ik about that

didn't know it only works with 6* wep

[slate gull]

gacha fomo tactics

[frigid moth]

is it really fomo when weapons are always available?

[spiral merlin]

ok rewatched it
if you pinged 1 yellow why did you ping 3 yellow right after lol

[outer lintel]

I have to go for the 6* ig...
saving bc is so hard man

[frigid moth]

Now the dmc weapons 💀

that's FOMO

[barren plank]

And they want DLT bad

[outer lintel]

I'm like I should save for dmc but then I need to build nanami and then next patch is selena

[slate gull]

that's what i meant with fomo

[pseudo jasper]

uhh is it supposed to be 1y > 1y > r > 3y > r?

[stray siren]

Weapons are f2p rn imo

I remember that during the first two years, even with the monthly were hard to obtain, especially if you lost 80/20

It took me like 2 months to get Rosetta weapon when I lost the 80/20

[outer lintel]

started playing for dmc but getting fooled into pulling for nanami 6*

[frigid moth]

fr I literally have all of them rn

[pseudo jasper]

i watched yomm's vid and he said the inputs was 1y > 3y > r > 3y > r

[spiral merlin]

this is 42 start?

[slate gull]

nanami sig is worth it since she has a lot of teams. therefore a lot of teams benefit from it

[pseudo jasper]

ye ofc, 42(1)

[outer lintel]

btw any way to get 6* other than gacha?

[frank kindle]

watch out for snipers

[slate gull]

lol

[stray siren]

Same in my TW acc (f2p)

[stray siren]

I am the sniper

[spiral merlin]

1y > r > 3y > r > 3y > r

[stray siren]

Nah, no one can snipe my dark score

[pseudo jasper]

yeah thats what i did no?

[spiral merlin]

u didnt do first red

from what i saw

[pseudo jasper]

ohwait isnt that 5stacks?

[spiral merlin]

nah

1y > r is 0 stacks

needs to be 3y to count

[frigid moth]

Anyway gonna go now I'll be back in a bit

[pseudo jasper]

huh okay

[spiral merlin]

I find this quite tricky to fit within amp buff

[pseudo jasper]

toomany vids have diff rots, ig i'll try all of them and see myself

[spiral merlin]

Alternatively I recommend 1y > r > 3y > 3y > r

And do 32 instead

[frank kindle]

we safe boys

[fluid gulch]

LMAO

I forgor to do dark area and still got promoted

That's EU server for ya

[spiral merlin]

Yeah that's expected

Lilith is flexible

[pseudo jasper]

yea i have no problem with under 10s lilith rot with the previous rotation

[spiral merlin]

Really as long as you don't run out of orbs it works

[slate gull]

literally

[spiral merlin]

But it's very easy to run out of orbs if you misinput

At the start

[frank kindle]

got 100 merit, so there's chance for legend promo next week

[pseudo jasper]

i see someone mentioned that my run was bugged(?)

[spiral merlin]

I think it's because you did that extra 3p where you didn't need it

[pseudo jasper]

the second rot he told me i cant ping blue and ult at the same time

hmm okay

[spiral merlin]

That is also true but i rarely place the fault here since it's hard to tell

[pseudo jasper]

i see, thanks anyways man

[spiral merlin]

Yeah no worries I was malding dark earlier and ran into the same issue as you

[solemn spoke]

we indeed are

[spiral merlin]

Since I had trouble with fitting the other rota in 10s I ended up doing this and it works flawlessly with tons of time left for amp

Also enables relatively easy 2422 end

[frank kindle]

u better be in blue next week to gain rep back

[pseudo jasper]

ohh this is 3stacks?

[spiral merlin]

Yea

It shouldn't make too much difference

[solemn spoke]

[fringe kestrel]

[pseudo jasper]

yeah ur right, earlier waves i had no problem killing

[tall gust]

Hey I just saw you on another server
👋

[smoky merlin]

yo, how does the demotion protection work

[fringe kestrel]

is guild battle flux rotation this time?

[tall gust]

[slate gull]

i havent been on hero for too long i already forgot

[solemn spoke]

in which

[smoky merlin]

[frank kindle]

red = one rep depleted
blue = rep gained

[slender aurora]

Omg did they actually split up gameplay help for meta/non meta advice

I cant believe it they finally did it

[smoky merlin]

yea.. this is not good

[slate gull]

but as far as i can remember, in hero, you gotta be top 1 and 2 with 100 merit to be promoted. then top 3~6 to defend hero, then 7 and below is demotion. but if you have 100 merit, you wont get demoted

[frank kindle]

not 100 merit, but at least 1 reputation

[tall gust]

check mutuals

[slate gull]

wth is that lmao. as a legend stay-in, i dont know anymore

[river nymph]

my man

[frank kindle]

so u have 2 base rep, if u go below 6 rank, so 7 and lower u lose 1 rep; if u go rank 6 or above u gain 1 back if u lost it in previous week

[slate gull]

so they made it even easier to retain hero

[stray siren]

You can't escape from this place

[stray siren]

Hero is a joke rn

[frank kindle]

as long as u don't get 7 rank 2 or 3 weeks in a row yeah

[slate gull]

alright

[smoky merlin]

[tall gust]

don't your rewards get better as you climb through ranks

from leader to hero to legend

[slate gull]

yes

[tall gust]

Yeah I'd rather not get to legend lol

[slate gull]

but dont you want better rewards? lol

[tall gust]

what makes you think I will even be able to maintain the rank

I started 2 month ago 🥀

[normal sierra]

you don't need to maintain legend, just ping pong between hero and legend

[frank kindle]

still better rewards than just defending hero

[tall gust]

Struggling at Hero already I don't think maintaining legend is possible

[frank kindle]

cuz u get slight more rewards for promotion then for demotion back to hero

[tall gust]

Ohh
Awesomeness

[frank kindle]

extra 400 wz influence + 240 vouchers for promo, then extra 240 vouchers for demote

[slate gull]

if you can stay top 6 in legend, then you can hover between hero and legend every week

[shy jackal]

Maintaining legend is only for whales or if you get into a lucky bracket with zones you have strong teams for

[frank kindle]

than defending hero

[shy jackal]

Like unless I get sniped I might retain legend for the first time just because everyone else in my bracket sucks

[frank kindle]

i'll try joining friday this week

[tall gust]

Can't wait for August

[slate gull]

bro you already joined

[frank kindle]

maybe i'll get omega slacc bracket

[shy jackal]

I joined sat this wz bracket lol

[frank kindle]

how slacc was it

i joined 1 minute in and had 3x top 15 in my hero bracket

[foggy ridge]

dw about maintaining legend. hero legend floating is the norm usually. retaining legend is for mega whels

[fresh plover]

if i have enough resources, should i have two sets of cot shakes for pyroath? one with atk on top row and one with basic attack on top row? or do you just need basic attack

[shy jackal]

And the top score is like 12m

I have near 13m

Mainly because I have dark skill issue

[fresh plover]

i guess you ideally have two because for plasma you dont use the long ult as much?

[frank kindle]

nihil, phys, light/plasma next week

[fresh plover]

which is where the BA reso comes in

[slate gull]

what invest is your pyroath

[shy jackal]

I'm getting demoted then

Phys my weakest team

[fresh plover]

ss3

[shy jackal]

And I still haven't gotten used to playing ish

[fresh plover]

single reso on sig

[slate gull]

i dont like how they lumped light and ion together 💢

[shy jackal]

Only chance is if my ion carries because my ion cracked as hell

[slate gull]

just use atk reso on top rows

[shy jackal]

Was very slacc lol

[frank kindle]

[fresh plover]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KZUAhKZxC7A
this is the context btw, i cannot get that single ult kill for chaos

[shy jackal]

You're likely getting reso-diffed

[fresh plover]

probs part of it too i guess

[slate gull]

you only need 1 set of 2pc cottie for her. just go with atk+15 resos

[shy jackal]

Because r2 pyro r2 wata r3 empy is serious whel sht

Not to mention ss cub

[fresh plover]

that entire ppc guide assumes some serious weapon resos and it's kinda frustrating ngl

[shy jackal]

Extra edb skill

[fresh plover]

i did lucksack her cub

[shy jackal]

Look to windbell for low invest ppc guides

[fresh plover]

managed to find a way that works

the issue with windbell for my pyroath team specifically is that theirs is ss0

and the break points just are different

18 seconds feels like a fair middle ground between not enough resos but higher rank pyroath

[frigid moth]

I have SS3 Pyroath and I still struggle on Ballard

res wise tho my fire team pretty underinvested ngl

[fresh plover]

i decided on the ss3 copy from standard banner simply for convenience

for war zone

the standard rotation for ss3 pyroath feels easier than the rotation for ss0

[frigid moth]

Yeah doesn't really help much for ppc

Next patch should help tho since I'll have SS3 Epitaph and new Vera

[normal sierra]

ss3 does help for ppc, her qte nuke can kill bosses

[frigid moth]

Double slash into Vera will be the strat right?

Or does Epitaph do more DMG than Vera?

[spiral merlin]

whats this for

[frigid moth]

Fire ppc, I'm wondering what the rot will be for next patch

[river nymph]

[spiral merlin]

oh 💀

[river nymph]

who is the new fire and phys bosses

[spiral merlin]

wata will be faster

[frigid moth]

Will he?

[spiral merlin]

no new phys boss, new fire boss is the guy from jetavie patch

forgot his name

[vale raft]

Gwynplaine

Weakness: Combustible (Fire)

Zone Type: EXPPC

Start Time: N/As

Difficulty: Hell

HP: 30,000,000
Super Armor: 0
Extra Damage Reduction: 0.0%
Defence: 1,500
Phys Resist: 0.0%
Fire Resist: 20.0%
Light Resist: 20.0%
Ice Resist: 20.0%
Dark Resist: 20.0%

[river nymph]

oh lol the fat guy

[ruby minnow]

gwyneplaine

[frigid moth]

Dang I thought a gen 3 would outdps him

[spiral merlin]

gywho

[river nymph]

why no phys boss?

[frank kindle]

30m

[spiral merlin]

glacio instead

[river nymph]

selena gonna kill fushen with a 3ping

[river nymph]

oh which boss? and group?

[frigid moth]

30m I'm cooked 💀

[spiral merlin]

that should tell you how much worse phys selena is than glacio lol

[spiral merlin]

monzano, third

[river nymph]

nice

wow this slow mode makes me what to harm myself physically

[spiral merlin]

he really is not bad

[frigid moth]

Selena still carries physical tho

[spiral merlin]

barely feels any different to shorthalt tbh

[deft apex]

Dw

35m dark boss incoming

[frigid moth]

Physical is just trash in general

[deft apex]

[frigid moth]

How much HP does shorthalt have again?

[normal sierra]

22m

[ruby minnow]

end of 2025 we'll have 50m

[spiral merlin]

then you know what you must do

[frank kindle]

1b hp when

[ruby minnow]

eos

[chilly trail]

What boss tmrw

[normal sierra]

shorthalt gundam lilith

[frank kindle]

[spiral merlin]

[frigid moth]

Just got to make sure I'm running eins this time 💀

Prob could of scored better on Ballard then I noticed I was wearing the wrong sets

[river nymph]

[normal sierra]

classic ppc mald experience

uhh, Bonkerina busy at lilith, now I can't solo chaos scorpio with grandpa, gotta use pyro

[river nymph]

use teneb for lilith

[normal sierra]

I don't think my fish can fast ult kill lilith with just teneb
and I gotta save at least 1 lilith AP for gundam too
bruh, I already hate next week

[river nymph]

youre cooked

[still moat]

just ishmael it

[frigid moth]

Lilith clears Lilith ngl

[normal sierra]

I need lilith for hell gundam ish kill cuz empy now busy with scorpio
no other amps are usable for hell cuz either below sss or... carpi
will try with carpi first, but I doubt I will have enuff dmg with her on hell

[frank kindle]

https://tenor.com/view/spider-man-we-one-gif-18212100

[frigid moth]

Yeah that's the tricky part

Vera gonna save our amp problems trust 🙏

[outer lintel]

should I get all three?

[frank kindle]

just 2nd

is enough for mission

[frigid moth]

Prioritize her QTE LEAP but you can fully LEAP her if you like using her

Mats aren't that hard to get if you prefer res gamba

[frank kindle]

1 and 3rd skill leap is useless untill we get darkflow content

[frigid moth]

They help with her rot tho don't they?

I'd have to reread them rq tho

[outer lintel]

okay I like her so I'll fully Max her

btw smth weird just happened...idk if I should be happy or sad

[sonic citrus]

The orb rearrangement at least iirc

[outer lintel]

like wtf???? I'll never 10 pull ever again

any idea what I'm supposed to do with dupes???

[sonic citrus]

Wep resos

[frank kindle]

[outer lintel]

man my acc is bricked fr

[shrewd cosmos]

Slide me that luck

[frank kindle]

gib me one, fr

[outer lintel]

I would If I could

[frank kindle]

my nana is homeless rn

[outer lintel]

I'm so speechless rn

[shrewd cosmos]

at least yours has her cub

[outer lintel]

guys what do I do with the other two???

[frank kindle]

it was "free" anyways

[outer lintel]

recycle them?

[frigid moth]

Use for dlt for characters that need them

[outer lintel]

I'll get stuff for deleting the wep?

[shrewd cosmos]

I got a "free" lucia cub instead

[frigid moth]

Never recycle always res

[frank kindle]

NO

[shrewd cosmos]

DO NOT

-# holy hell, cd sucks

[frigid moth]

Recycling is a net loss resource wise

[outer lintel]

GUYSS!

[frigid moth]

For meta you need weapon res

[outer lintel]

what's dlt????

[frank kindle]

deadlinetiming

[shrewd cosmos]

more orbs enchant basically

[frank kindle]

also dont overinvest in reso on one character, spread them out

[frigid moth]

Dead line timing, it improves orb rot significantly

[outer lintel]

ahh

wait lemme try it

[frigid moth]

What characters you have?

Before you res show huaxu

Some characters need res way more than others

[outer lintel]

I have nothing lol I'm new

only free ones like cw demonissa

[frigid moth]

Use this https://huaxu.app/na/players

[shrewd cosmos]

https://huaxu.app/

[outer lintel]

is it the wep resonance thing?

[frigid moth]

Sorry using mobile discord lol

[shrewd cosmos]

oh. well demonissa needs it

[shrewd cosmos]

no, u gotta search up ur name and it gives us the ability to see ur account and what characters u got

[outer lintel]

ohh

[shrewd cosmos]

provided that you give us the link to ur account

[frigid moth]

There we go

[frank kindle]

Select server, put in your id and send back link here

[frigid moth]

Easiest way to see what would be optimal

[outer lintel]

it says player not found lol

[frigid moth]

Prob not right server

[shrewd cosmos]

wrong server. get into ur region

-# GAH, I HATE THE CD

[outer lintel]

https://huaxu.app/ap/players/25867758/characters

[frank kindle]

Why they increased it

[shrewd cosmos]

Oh boy, your basically working with nothing but nana, which is at least good. basically only invest in her, and give her dlt. also work ur way to getting lilith and giving her dlt as well

here

[outer lintel]

is dlt the resonance thing?

[shrewd cosmos]

Yes, you need the chracters sig to perform resonance

[frigid moth]

Give startrail dlt and give Lilith dlt when you get her eventually, try to get Ishmael from featured in the meantime

[frank kindle]

like here, on weapon

u click +, click item and select one of your extra weapons

[outer lintel]

yeah okay

[shrewd cosmos]

also once you unlock harmonizers, do harmonize both of them. also do ppc to get nana and lilith to SS

[outer lintel]

I thought I shouldn't pull Ishmael cz I don't have Luna

[frigid moth]

She's still pretty good as a standalone

[outer lintel]

I think I haven't unlocked it yet

[outer lintel]

wouldn't Selena be a better choice cz wanshi is free?

[frigid moth]

Either way she can benefit off of the sets from other characters

[shrewd cosmos]

yeah, u need level 80 for it (unless im mixing it up with something else)

[frigid moth]

Selena won't cover nihil related content

[outer lintel]

time to use up all my serum lol

[frigid moth]

Ishmael also covers as a temporary stand in for support units you're missing

[shrewd cosmos]

No, u wanna get all new characters. Selena aint doing anything for nihil. also you dont wanna be running her [selena] with anything other then glacier and physical

[shrewd cosmos]

u can easily gain more. also go get a teacher/mentor

[outer lintel]

man....I don't have the funds to pull everyone

[frigid moth]

You will

[frank kindle]

that alone gives like 4.5k bc

[outer lintel]

it's so hard to get bc right now tho! does it get better as I progress?

[shrewd cosmos]

You do actually

[outer lintel]

ohh I didn't do those!

[frigid moth]

Yes, Norman gives bc and clash reflection gives event cards

[frank kindle]

arcade anima is 1500 event tickets

[frigid moth]

Late game you can easily full clear both

[shrewd cosmos]

kinda, but it slows down heavily because u reach a point where you either do weeklies or do... story after doing all LTM stuff. (end game point btw)

[outer lintel]

okayy it's time to grind

[lone shoal]

man. i got 1.48 mil. so sad

[frank kindle]

uppc?

[frigid moth]

One day, it only gets easier over time

[shrewd cosmos]

speaking of points.... GET ME OUT OF HEROOOOOO

[lone shoal]

yeah. and im all outta energy for my units

[frank kindle]

i got 1.8m this week

[lone shoal]

good for you

[shrewd cosmos]

Ah, uppc. this one also is bad for me. i can prob only hit 1.5/1.6 mil.

[frigid moth]

I think I got 1.83m this week from what I remembered

[outer lintel]

btw I should upgrade every skill right?

[frigid moth]

Pretty straightforward one

[frigid moth]

Indeed no reason not to

[shrewd cosmos]

yeah, for liltih (once acuqired) and nana

[lone shoal]

hopefully when new Vera comes in and I get Epitaph's sig, I can have a much better fire team

[frigid moth]

I full upgrade even my A rank units now

[lone shoal]

why? they seem useless

[frigid moth]

Game just hands crazy amounts of resources to do so

[shrewd cosmos]

I got his sig back then while trynna get lunas sig. Speaking of, thank god vera comes out, I really didnt wanna invest in emperia

[frank kindle]

i used ss pyro, sss bridget and ss3 ish for easy 600k ballard

[frigid moth]

Mainly for higher siege scores

[lone shoal]

siege as in simulated siege?

Ballard is one tanky mofo. same with cradle

is Hamlet not tanky? SS Wanshi destroyed him

[frigid moth]

The one in the guild yeah

[frank kindle]

ballard has 17m hp on hell, now imagine we getting new fire boss next patch that has 30m on hell

[lone shoal]

aw ffs

i hope youre joking

[vale raft]

Gwynplaine

Weakness: Combustible (Fire)

Zone Type: EXPPC

Start Time: N/As

Difficulty: Hell

HP: 30,000,000
Super Armor: 0
Extra Damage Reduction: 0.0%
Defence: 1,500
Phys Resist: 0.0%
Fire Resist: 20.0%
Light Resist: 20.0%
Ice Resist: 20.0%
Dark Resist: 20.0%

[frank kindle]

[frigid moth]

I'm gonna crash out so hard

[lone shoal]

just kill me already

[frank kindle]

and ballard is retiring to outliner

[lone shoal]

siiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiigh

[frigid moth]

At least my fire team will be stronger that patch

[lone shoal]

no wonder powercreep gets ridiculous lol

[frigid moth]

But is SS Vera really that much stronger than SSS Emp?

[lone shoal]

probably?

[frigid moth]

At least the glacio boss will get melted by my account

Might get SSS3 Wanshi while I'm at it

[ornate oasis]

Yes since she gets a rotation or two which is sumn u wont get w emp dmg

[frigid moth]

Yeah I shouldn't have a problem especially with SS3 Epitaph

[ornate oasis]

Yeah you wouldn’t really need to suffer with the old Shakespeare rot with epitaph since thats a pain

[abstract jay]

may i ask where to find warzone & ppc boss schedule?

[frigid moth]

Wait why would that change me from running the usual support set on Vera

Or is Epi a single rot now?

[ornate oasis]

Epi is single rot with vera if I’m correct

If im wrong pls someone do correct me

[frigid moth]

That's nice since anything past the first rot is pain

[ornate oasis]

If I remember from wz vids its one rot each

[shrewd cosmos]

imagine following rots

-# idk them

[ornate oasis]

Yup specially with shakes its just pure pain

And empy cant keep up the dps either so vera is coming to save that

That means u only ult twice with pyroath instead of 3

[frigid moth]

Is Vera's set used for any content?

[ornate oasis]

Lemme ask others

[frigid moth]

Or is it only used if someone doesn't have Epi for the second rot?

[frigid moth]

Thx

[sullen garden]

Is ss3 solacetune fine without sig?

[ornate oasis]

I think she needs sig since she needs dlt badly

[frigid moth]

Fine without dlt but still needs sig

[ornate oasis]

Even with premium team

If ya wanna rot twice then u need dlt

[frigid moth]

This

[ornate oasis]

But when Selena comes I think she only rots once

@frigid moth vera mems here

[frigid moth]

See how you perform without sig when Selena drops and if you need sig go for it

[frigid moth]

That's what I theorized would be her build, guess she's designed to not require her sig set that's a relief 👍

[ornate oasis]

Yup its good that her dps is still high enough with support set making the fire rotation smoother

Coz Im tired of two rots with shakes wata

[frigid moth]

Also now that I think about it if I get Dante I could run Cottie on Wata

Definitely gonna lab that

[bronze horizon]

Guys does startrail Ishmael and oblivion all need their sig

[ornate oasis]

I think dante team runs startrail as tank though?

And vera as amp

[frigid moth]

Was referring to fire since I'll be testing his performance extensively

Going to high invest DMC

[ornate oasis]

Ahhh well tbh idk if dante performs well out of affix but hopefully he surpasses hyperlee at least

[frigid moth]

He definitely surpasses Hyperlee at the very least

His SSS at a minimum is comparable to SS Pyroath at least according to Empress

I have SS3 Pyroath so I'll be comparing him to that

I'll give time/score differences once August patch drops

[frank kindle]

when and where did she drop that information

[frigid moth]

Under the comments in the Dante warzone vod

[frank kindle]

there was only sss+ dante = sss0 pyro comment

[ornate oasis]

Wait I remembered that I have SS3 and r2 hyperlee lmao lemme compare him to my ss3 r1 pyroath

[frigid moth]

Was the fire one pretty sure

[frigid moth]

SS3 Pyroath is insane ngl

[frank kindle]

there wasnt one

[sullen garden]

Ss3 qu or ss3 wata with selector?

[frank kindle]

both about same score increase, u can hold untill we have leap info if u want to

[ornate oasis]

Real

[sullen garden]

How they do leaps is odd compared to other games

[ornate oasis]

U can pretty much 3 ults easily

[frank kindle]

i mean, they retired lamia before daren

[ornate oasis]

The biggest crime that kuro has ever done

[sullen garden]

Other games you can usually expect who will get a leap but in PGR they just give it to the character they want instead of a character that could use it

[pearl solstice]

Hi guys

[ornate oasis]

Hellooo

[frigid moth]

Actually they might've said it in this server from what I remember

Can't check rn tho on mobile atm

[frank kindle]

nop, still not

there's only that claim, but its he said she said type of thing without proof provided

[thorn bramble]

Skip colab

[frigid moth]

Yeah SS3 Pyroath should still be slightly stronger but scores won't be in the dumpster with SSS Dante unlike BRS lol

[shy jackal]

ss3 pyroath for sure > sss0 dante

[frigid moth]

Yeah from what I know SS3 Pyroath > SSS Dante > SS0 Pyroath

SS3 just giving another ult is really hard to beat

Real question I have is SS rank Vera enough?

Or should I aim higher for her?

[barren plank]

Fake 10%

[outer lintel]

can Lilith solo?

[gray cosmos]

yes but I think you need to weave in a lot of basic attacks

[frigid moth]

It's weird to solo with her prob better to build Teddy to swap off of

[gray cosmos]

yeah it's not a good solo like how nanaknight can

[outer lintel]

I should farm memories from the simulated battlefield right?

[frigid moth]

Only place you should get anything from

ESPECIALLY with sync patch

Next patch you'll be getting 3x the resources there than other sources

[outer lintel]

that's pretty good so currently it's,2×

and what to get from the uniframe selector?

[frigid moth]

Which one?

[outer lintel]

the targeted banner

[frigid moth]

You mean omniframe? Can you provide a screenshot?

[frigid moth]

Uniframes are hard skips if that's what you're asking

[frank kindle]

i heard people did light + plasma on fire

[frigid moth]

Ignore that banner it's way outdated

[frank kindle]

or was it nihil + plasma on fire