#📨・meta-help
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I played during gen 1
Alr, so how's the team I could build? I already built ice team of shukra, wanshi, and kaleido, as well lightning team for star rail, alpha, and feral
Sometimes I mixed built a team
Whatever you want, none of them currently work
Luminance is replaced by a free character, so she is the worst option
have u used this patch base banner
epitaph is gen 2 or 3?
Generations do not exist
It's just a tank with more shred
Is the free Lucia:Crimson Weave good?
For now
If I build her, what do I want in a team using her?
nanami startrail from base banner
If you get Nanami Lightning, you don't use Alpha in the team
What should i choose on free s selector i don't have this
The blue banner one?
Free selector on Selena patch
Yes
Then qu
Oh okay tysm
anyone wanna be my student?
EU
Do I even pull on a banner if I wanna save up for Vergil or just save up?
5$ to anyone that becomes his student and kiwi at level 79

free 5* memory shards to those who won't 
Yes
For shukra
oh boy
considering u dont have oblivion nor solacetune nor pyroach, that was omega bad choice
Ofc, also highly reccomend getting her sig weapon
Damn, I am cooked am I?
Well, I will just wait for Vergil update
like that would fix anything 
Ik
Do we get any free copies of either of them? Cuz im planning on skipping..
we getting one dante for story
Oh nice
True
Ill be using them extra bc on bianca
Free Dante by story? I'm all in
Her animations are cool but her model looks off

Hopefully they adjust it like they did with vera
How old is Echo as a unit?
16 
technically the truth 
The chains makes me remember echo for some reason
Or blades, idk, looked like chains
next month would be a global year for echo though
Yeah i remember seeing them in phys warzone rotations
a year in glb (ecx sync)
almost 3 cn
not 3 cn mb
only 2 year in cn
Is it possible that they are going to add affix in ppc?
sadly
we getting plasma and glacio ppc boss next patch
also ballard retiring and we getting even stronger fire boss 
baller
in the end u want them, but always make sure u get debut units first
no
Can you use selena pianissimo in true slash wz?
bruh I'm skill issuing dark wz so hard rn
no
true ass
I mean... you could, but it's not gonna be as good
but just don't
i think you worded this too nicely
yeah
selena would not work in ts, she won't do anything there 
it's pretty ass
Don't bother to do ts wz without vergil tbh
true
i'm gonna cope with S+ balter #skipdmc
lowkey not excited for dmc collab after seeing bianca
man lilith is easy to use but hard to actually master 😭
I think im gonna skip dmc to ss3 selena and bianca is yhis good?
prob
cuz aint no way im skipping vera for dmc
not like ss dmc is gonna give more score than ss3 selena thats for sure
- factoring in sigs, cubs
too expensive

Whale territory, like its always 
do we know if dmc has sss stickers
highkey even im considering dmc skip

or at least min invest
what should I be getting on NA legend dark wz with 233 112 111 luna wanshi lilith
flux 381.8
because I definitely do not have the min score
should def be more than 3.7m
lilith hard to use
I think i saw like 5-6m asia legend but it was sss nanami
I only have 4m solo lilith🥲
idk why I'm malding in legend anyway
there's still like 2 people who haven't done their runs in my bracket and they might snipe

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lR2_9Dn6qbI
Here is Azriel with sss nanami 
really sorry for uploading the same zone twice in a week, i was not satisfied with the previous result. my idea for uploading early is to put up reference for other people because i noticed that there are quite significant amount of people in APAC running this comp and im happy for it, but the score and the run that i did was far from perfect.
...

i lowkey like the zaza dark more than current

bianca save dark pls

same
Same
nana is the light in dark team 
im at 6.3m and i see 6.9m my invest im cooked
Bad weather and i cba with dark 
simply do basics with lilith 5head
Oh fosho huge score increase 
everyone just spam the survey
coolest part and half of her moveset locked behind one (1) piece of content
genius move
masterful gambit
everywhere I go I see r3 lilith 
I can't r3 my lilith
Poverty 
Is this a good idea?
Hell no
no
Thank god I didn't press
Shame that u even thought about it 
what are you even trying for and why couldn't you wait just a bit 
I was just clicking randomly 
Why don't you click bc to cogs randomly
I'm still hella blind on the currencies for this game and what do I even want to pull on lmao
clicking randomly on the button that pulls 10 times?
debut banner cub banner wep banner that is all
no fate if not whel
Hi in global Derived from Matrix, do we only have up to ending 3?
They shouldn’t have bothered with adding a new affix tbh
locking her moveset behind that is so garbage when u could use that on dark instead
In pins u got matrix guide
Ok thanks! I must be doing something wrong then
Thanks ill check the guide
and 90% of players are still going to use it and still going to wonder why it does no dmg
just like with cw
LMAOOO true
i still cant believe its been this long and still no use for cw darkflow
hype moments and aura
no substance
I cant believe lamia got replaced before daren
new fire tank next

Nah, we replacing pyro 
Yeah with dante
Is the anniversary on July 16th?
Too far man
i love qu shukra
i love qu shukra
What equivalent would even be dante sss to pyro rank
Empress compared dante SSS+ to SSS pyro score wise, i wonder how it goes on lower rank
what is this 800 black card referring to for the pain cage section? I already completed all the pain cage stages for this week
pink ? how!!!
yes, is it just glitching on the display?
Yeah, should be glitch then
lol your UI, i realised it could be the background
yeah it's been buggy since the last patch?always unclaimed rewards in that tab
is it a bad idea to unlock wanshi and ayla ice with the dorm shards?
well thats the primary way of getting them so no
THAT'S actually the greatest idea u had
Yes u should do it
get Wanshi first
My goat...
I saved up to get both of them at the same time
that's even better
get both since like we don't know when a new ice character might drop (it will probably be an ice amp or ice dps)
also should I scrap some of these weapons to get ayla's and wnashi's 5* from shop?
I've already got Ish's and Nanamin's sig weap
new Selena is not ice? I thought she was
she is phys with glacia affix (not the same as ice)
oh
guys are dmc weapons and cubs discounted or nah
should I or not?
someone posted the
give me a minute
tldr: No
only characters are
damn, really gotta hyper save then lol
ehh im going for ss with weapon and cub, not that much of a whale lol
I'm going for sss
#skipdmc
wait do u need them at sss for them to be viable meta wise
if so then im just gonna pull for vergil and both of their cubs lol
do i build epitath with 4pc shakespeare or 4pc alphonse
Nah SS and cub and weapon is fine
I'm just going whale path cause I really like pgr and dmc
alr ty
and most importantly
unlike other characters
they're truly limited
I can always get Selena and Vera later
It's all part of the plan
yea thats what im thinking but im ftp and i couldnt bring myself to skip so much for them lol, itll take me a billion years to get the meta characters that i skipped lol
imma take my barebones meta viable team and dip
Kinda regret not playing this game earlier this is so good lol
i got in early so i got a bunch of meta teams already set up now and i dont wanna go back to not having them lol
is dante verg syncing with bianca
no info on that yet
we have no idea.
What barebones meta
Either they're meta or they're not you can't be both
Unless you're old like scire
Meta is how much you invested
Meta deez
I remember the time sig was optional and SS is best value
Alright unc let's get you back to bed
a character without sig. thats what he probably meant 
I remember the time when some character's ss was detrimental that s was sufficient 
Oh boy, bianca: huimu gonna need sig to work
do you only use qte or do you actually switch to other characters during combat
Honestly plume's ss was a bit disappointing to me 
You swap usually
pgr is a switch game, not just one char like others
both
when do you swtich then :0
depends on rotations
Ngl I just brute force it
when rotation is done
And when you run out of orbs
btw it depends on game modes. in pain cage u just wanna solo. in warzone it depends on your investment and team if soloing is worth over swapping.
are there any content creators i can go to in order to learn a characters rotation? :0
Oh dear
I follow empress 
Usually rotations require ss0 + sig, and sometimes that Sig needs deadline timing
Azriel too but they have some f2p rots
S was never sufficient from the beginning
then who told me that ploom and glory need no ss 
I will just search my old message history
Eho?
Glory definitely need SS otherwise unplayable 
I think it was me 
I found his name. Haloist
how much of a difference in wz does creating an actual fully resonated da vinci and eins qte support set make when compared to just swapping one non resonated set around on every elemental character?
plume ss was simply more dmg didnt really change anything
I agree with plume though her SS is unnecessary
3s is when things change up

btw I also decided that veritas ss was not necessary too

can someone help with this plz
Yo ayla: kielado exist bro
u need full resonated set cus thats always better even if its by 0.01% but if u r low on resources u can just swap the set around. I had no separate da vinci set when I started out. one set for all 5 teams.
Or am I wrong
im not too low on resources but im on that part where if i did do that i would be a lil broke. how much of a difference does it really make? if its actually like 0.01% then im probably gonna not do it lol
u r wrong. ayla needed ss to function when she was 1st released. now she a qte bot.
Okay
goal right now is just try to go from getting always demoted in hero to retaining in it
Skipping Selena might be the dumbest thing global players are gonna do
Its been 2 yrs and I haven't ss ayla
no its not actually 0.01% thats just my hypothetical ass talking.
btw more on your swap question: example of ice team, u start with ayla swap to wanshi do his rot swap to qu do her rot swap back to wanshi and so on and so forth even if ayla is sss.
Sponsor please
cant selena be obtained through vouchers later or nah?
What sponsor
have u tried getting better on your rotation 
For how many times I read that kind of thing lol . Only matters for competitive and whales
Erm aktually you can selena when you have blue selector available its not dumb cux you still get but kate

?
Nah just skip dmc
Y'all don't know the difference between SS3 and SS0 Selena do you
tried but a bunch of my teams are scuffed because im missing a ton of sigs lol
A small change in kit is enough to make 1m worth difference
Oh okay but I dont plan ss3 selena tbh
oh 
I will use it on vera
This is meta channel though so checks out
That's why need you to sponsor me i don't know what SS3 is
I will skip vera instead
This is SS3
I will skip the game 
what the helly 🙏 plz kuro slide an s rank selector soon
Just give me half your bc
I don't like new bianca. she looks far too much wuwa than pgr 
Get that much for yourself
But I have others to use
How?
Triple patch
What trick did you to get 50k
Nuh uh
She looks like she's about to Avalon the hell out of us
On CN bianca stigmata still viable so Selena isn't mandatory
Bro......
Just play and calculate your pulls
That's what I do
We're gph
.........
Viable

When she does less damage than Solacetune
u blind then ig. this looks if wuwa and genshed had a child.
He's playing Forgiving White Seagull
Oh done actually
Nah man, walter is gorgeous
who told u that. just want to know 
Atleast not gonna force people to pull on Selena if they don't want to and that's help
Also the robot frame is actually started on plume patch
Apart from the fact she doesn't looks robotic at all
Well they'll explain the frame in lore anyways
nah thats kap. also who tf is walter 
Oh my god...... Ma
Then #💬・pgr-general is your place
White balter
🤦♂️
Not #📨・meta-help
Grand saber is other nickname for bianca: huimu
People tend to forget how powercreep works
Can't help
Yep let them brick

You want meta go for sss or s+ lol
??????????????????????
Bro ss is actually enough for new char
Oh lol
and thats still not pgr tho. 

Technically in the first year of pgr we dont have that robot frame
Ig in plume patch where it started
The word itself means "Most Effective Tactics Available"
It means "the best way to clear the specific content infront of you with the most score possible"
Oh earlier at that
We talking competitive meta 😁
Most older frames don't look robotic
Year 1
Yea competitive
Literally
Hero ~ Legend Warzone
1.8m ~ 1.86m Ultimate PPC score
Literally what SS0 can do and it's actually pretty damn easy
you dont need sss or s+ for it
Unless you want to whale
Oi don't use MF
Mb
storm, dawn, luminance, crimson apiss, entropeak, astral, brilliance, veritas
these aren't cyborgs?
Here
F2P player btw
Then what's the point of (competitive) meta?
Why I can get higher score when all my char is ss0?
Look at erza screenshot
Mind you I wasn't able to 1.85m here cuz I didn't even try, these are all no malds

This is F2P too
The gap between f2p who knows the characters and who doesn't or is still learning

1.8m
Target that
Don't miss out on resources
If you combine walter + ishmael you get the worshiping jesus team 
Well even 1.8m will get stupidly hard once Effect weakness Bosses hit next patch
I am too slow to do things on time yet even I can 1.8 on ppc
its the same for all invest iv gapped other similiar to my account by as much as 3mil just from knowing how to play
so not gettting 1850000 is normal
I played on a busted phone ok?
Now i can't even mald
That phone's dead
don't blame phone. blame devs 
Actually yes
But if the ppc bosses are the easier ones, then 1.85m should be your target
cradle is made different
she phat af
Im so dumb I used ion in lightning ib no wonder my score was weird
Actually my ion might be stronger

depends on how strong your pyro is
SS0 R1 here
nah dont think that will work even my 3s pyro failed to outscore a lightning team with cw
Only if forced
i still do but thats because she is pretty high invest
Swap weather in warzone? Yes
Intensive Battle wants you to swap? Yes
is cw in current ib good? 
i only played solo nonomi 
Ion built different chat
But I hate her personally to the point I'll rather use Nanaknight alone if I have no choice than her
Nah
however i will say the biggest chunk of the lightning damage overall is nanami its not even close

Lightning rn is 99% Nanami 1% CW


and that is cw with SSS sig
The tides changed quick

Yea cuz below that CW is 0%
SS cw is still good in swap ib, but current is not swap

For this week ib you definitely need sss to swap
Okay if just my builds and timing are correct
Also in memo set 4 sam 4 guin since I will put 4 sam on 1, 2, 3 or 4 ,5/6 slot where should I put the 2 piece guin? On top or bottom @ripe stag
ATK : 107
DEF : 181
CRIT : 51
HP : 1208
ATK : 132
DEF : 223
CRIT: 64
HP : 1528
So guin on bottom okay, I've seen some put guin on top so yeah
who do i set as leader in dark team for wz? lilith or lamia?
Okay thx nathan
Lilith
🤝
Question here, what is ss hanying enough for Selena pianissimo?
ye
Enough
Unit should I pick?
Rigor
rigor if u dont have hanying physical tank frame
What character should I choose from the standard banner selector (the second one(?), I chose qu shukra for the first one) the first 3 images are the s ranks I have, tho only a couple are built and used, and the 4th image is my favorite characters I have and the team I use most often, I’m at 57 currently but I actually haven’t chosen a character yet
Maybe nanami for your lightning team
Ye that's true
Rigor is free
Ppl telling to pick rigor but she's worse than b nanami at base no sig
Hmm okay
Free don't matter if you're using her at S no sig
what are these janky ass controls with operation simterra
Actually they can get her sig in the free weap selector if they haven't
why does alt button toggle not work
Yea you can get sig, but chances are that selector goes to Tonitrus
Okay yeah
Grind some dorm coins to get alisa
Then use B nanami as they suggested
I’m working on the dorm, but i was more so asking about this
Just use B nanami
Then save that later
holy cow how di aim
I don’t have her.. I don’t think so atleast, I can’t find her in my character menu
Can you send your huaxu link
Explore the 29 characters of Yumi from the North America server of Punishing: Gray Raven.
Nanami: Storm of Yumi from the North America server of Punishing: Gray Raven.
Help..
Her? Ok, she’s good in the team I play or just good in general? I mainly right now just have characters I like in one team
She's good in the team
Answer is rtnf.
Guys please help I've been stuck on it for 14 minutes
Ty 😭
You can get pyro or nanami on blue banner selector and you get epitaph next patch using selector
B Nana with 5* wep can reduce DEF on QTE up to 25% and that's as good and accessible as it gets
def shred gamble in the big '25 
In PPC can 3 blue before swapping for another 30%
That's the cope tank life, it's horrible until Hanying
It's not working 😭
Mb
Ig you can use b nanami as qte bot
Then make your hanying main dps
Until selena release
I wanted Pyro on her banner but I didn’t because my partner and a couple college friends told me not to and save for ishmael. But nanami is still better than her right?
What in actually fck is that
Uh
Anyone pls help 🥲
You should get pyro when her banner is up
They said somthing about how i could get her another time and wouldnt be abke to for ishmael, and i wanted ishmael alot
Try switching t's and n's.
Yeah sure but remember that patch is triple and this patch is double meaning you still get ish after you pull pyro
that was definitely not a good play
Tru man
@forest bloom i sent solution
You should ask us first before doing anything
if they meant that you can get her via the standard banner reset, that's better saved for getting a strong character's ss3 or for a newer character since it always updates
Can I still pull pryo besides using standard? I already have ish now, tho Ive learned I like Lilith playstle more
you can, but it's a bit of a waste
^^ I meant to reply
Just get pyro on the standard
I’m slightly confused, tho I think it’s a language barrier on my end not anyone else’s fault
So nanami or pryo?
Pyro
Ok ok! Thank you!!
Then get epitaph on next patch
its ok. they can spend money to make it up
Ss3 lilith or ss3 wanshi?

ss3 wanshi first
Ok, is that on a limited banner or standard? I am pretty excited and want jetavie
Again meant to reply^^
Pls help me 🥲
You get jevatie for free and sss+ her for free
It's better than lilith?
shred has more impact than buff
which is why its reccomended ss3 wanshi over ss3 lilith
1339
the year of Odinlonia
No, get epitaph in free selector that will give on next patch
Oh wait really? That’s exciting!! I have been wanting a lot of characters and they have been free, I’m assuming Selena is the on banner character? I wanted her but I thought. I would need to choose between her or jetvatie
Oh ok! I’ll do that then, thank you again!!!
hello there Kevin
Selena, jevatie, vera
wat. how migu knows
Use simulated coins to get jevatie
I don't think I fulfilled feesh quota today

brb
witch
I'm still in the corner server nya 
and yet i barely see u

That’s uhh the thing u use battery to get? Should I start saving those? I’ve just been using them as I need them, how many do I need if so? Or do we not know
*LICK*
Yep start saving them, I forgot how much simulated coins cost for one shards
Hi quacker
I think I've sent all 56 feesh images in my collection atp
Need to find new ones 
same
omg xenolao haiii
SS3 Wanshi is more so to just enable soloing without needing DLT, or he runs out of orbs
I don’t have a lot right now, 7000 I think, I used to have almost 30k but I accidentally hit max when trying to buy something and it used them all 
Its okay

God I love luna
I love you too


ferderlois and gutspy I now announced you two are husband and wife, you two may kiss lmao
Freedom of kiss land
What 
Is this heaven
I'm so dumb I used ion in this lightning ib
Thank
I’m you
Is it true hypertune stays even after swapping a resonance of a memory?
Hypertune stays on the memory 
is it doable?
Maybe
Yea
Yeah you should be good
les gooo
which patch does the current Check target expire/refresh/reset?
Should I build my free lucid dreamer wanshi?
in like a year. we have no idea
absolutely. one of the best ice units, and its possible to solo with him if you dont have Shukra
So he is a DPS too
subDps, but very useable as a dps if you have to
I know Nanami Startrail is broken but is there possibly any other viable replacement
no.
nanami is the most versatile unit in the game. cheap to build, and so easy to play
CW is waving
I don't like her. I guess I'm cooked
then get better taste smh

not liking nanami? thats a death penalty here
I’m on the 50 pity for arrival construct, who should I get, or just save
why are you pulling on arrival
anyways, pass me the huaxu link so i can look
Idk it was like months ago I reinstalled a few days ago
Okay
oh alright then
25076067
server?
does anyone know if checked construct target will update with more characters in future patches? or do we need to choose the chars that are currently available right now?
North America
Updates
once a characters debut patch ends, they get added
thank god ok thank you, time for ss3 ishmael

Hanying Solacetune
Ok👌
This 70% rate is so goated, gave me lamia instead 😭✌️
Guys
goated?
can you see role selection channel
😔
thats why everyone says not to pull on arrival 
no, but theres that new one up top
wtf
y no yuri 
yuri 
ezra is clearly more of a yaoi fan smh my head
uncultured 
how likely is it for ayla to be replaced soon? skipped her weapon a long time ago but kinda need it if shes staying meta still (since shes best pair with ss3 ishmael)
she's probably going to be replaced in the upcoming months since she's pretty old now
hey guys
highly likely
ice DESPERATELY needs a unit, and kuro would love to make the free one irrelevant
also, ayla wont be best for ss3 ish starting from next patch. check to cnteams list
ayla daemonissa
o right forgot abt vera, lets go fk ayla
but that's still gonna take maybe... 3 months minimum?
When will pgr die?
today if i have it my way
since I think there's gonna be one more sync patch after dmc
eos lesgooo
frfr

yommlao 
when kiwi
hey cutie pie

which units are most likely to get replaced or underwhelming for current meta
probably kiwi playing ss3s, will just pilot some random account
BAN THE PILOTS
Ngl I don't get why everyone says you should never pull arrival under any circumstances whatsoever 100% of the time
Isn't this an amazing banner esp for new/returning players with 3 meta units? Like if I want all 3 of them what reason do I have not to pull on this arrival banner? Yeah Wanshi is free in dispatch, but if you lose your 70/30 to him it's just free evolves no? Am I just stupid?
new characters are always better
unless you're whale
because your currency should be saved for newer characters
the game does not give you enough to hit a 60 pity twice in one patch, ever
its rarely ever 3 meta units. its a rerun banner so its mostly older units, sometimes meta too.
a copy of a character is never worth as much as a new character altogether, so no reason to pull a wanshi there
additionally, newest characters are A L W A Y S top priority. but if you spend on arrival, you will not have the funds to keep up with the release of new ones
^
Hi im dumb and don't know how to read this chart:
Does the first line mean I need to do a playthrough of Ending 3, then load back into a new run to do line 2?
yes
how come nobody pilot me 😔
Okay but I only had 3 characters before that lmao, am I gonna wait for every single unit of every single team except for Nihil to get completely powercrept before getting any other character when you need like 5 complete teams for endgame and just suck my thumbs until then?
what does that mean
Ty
ag sorry I didn't reply to you
if you have done ending 3 atleast once, ending 4 is possible. then you start from the second line
Oh no worries it turns out your unintentional answer was right anyway lol
Thank you @fading kestrel
Gen q, do most people always pull every shiny new unit even when they don't like them? Is powercreep that bad? Cause holy crap

the thing is savings
and any new character powercreeps an old one
but if you can afford it, fine , but if you can't which is the case if f2p, you don't pull on it
This is the way that Hi3 works, which is its parallel game. Though id argue hi3 is worse
It's just a different kind of character collecting, pgr is not about picking your favorites (unless you actually want to play that way)
powercreep in this game is extremely slow. a new unit will stay in meta for 1-2 years. but WHEN someone gets powercrept, the difference will always be massive
here, we try to maximize the value of your account by going the safe route of only pulling on the newest 100% banner. youre fully within your rights to pull someone you like more on arrival or whatever. but the risk is there, and we cant in good conscience recommend that.
if you do not WANT the new unit, dont pull. its your account
some people don't
but that's generally not adivsed if you want all possible rewards
A unit staying meta for 1-2 years is plenty of time imo. Also there's no requirement to try and play meta, you can do quite a lot of the main content as a casual
"new unit will stay in meta for 1-2 years" so I'm expected to not have endgame teams for like a year because I shouldn't pull on reruns? 😭
its not that powercreep is crazy, but that the tippy-top of endgame (warzone and PPC) is Leaderboard-based
so hardcore meta is kinda required there. IF you do not care for leaderboard bs, you do not have to follow meta to such a degree. the PvE endgame is a lot easier
some people think staying in leader wz/doing advanced ppc/not full clearing clash reflection or norman revival plan is fine because it "barely makes a difference" in terms of currency
1 year sounds awful
i cleared all endgame content within 6 months as an f2p
you do not have to have every teamfully perfected. thats what a-ranks are for
gatekeeping lower players frfr
if i don't have fun, no one else will
bro we got alot of freebies rn, if you're new you don't need to pull on it
but it's your choice

do you not get all rewards for warzone and ppc unless you are top of the leaderboard?
Majority of the rewards from ppc are based on performance
yesnt
you get all pull currency just by attempting. your ranking does not matter
but you get TINY extra rewards for high rankings. none of those are pull currency though
the max rewards for ultimate ppc cap off at 1.8m score
for warzone hero is a perfectly fine place to remain
Hero retain is easy nowadays
yeah
Idk if you're newer to gacha but its not that different from other games. In HSR you can guarantee pity 1x limited character every 1.5 patches to 2 patches. 2 patches is 3 months. So in 1 year, assuming you had bad luck you got 4 limited banner characters. Endgame is minimum 8 characters. 
Of course its faster for new players in most games, like PGR too, you can get at least 1 working team in the first month
we got waifu players still thinking hero wz is whale type sht tho 
This is not a PGR complaint, just in general it makes me sad when a gacha is not about "picking your favorites" - the characters are the whole appeal, who enjoys pulling for characters they don't like? 😭
mfw i followed this chart and somehow did it wrong every time
Here you go
Then it's not that bad
pgr gives enough to pull every new character tho, I heard this
Yeah pgr is more meta oriented
it can fully be about picking who you like 
its just our job here to always do the meta thing in this channel. its your account brother, be free
Bro yeah I was like surely I am stupid because I tried following this chart today and I got the same Jetavie ending 3, 7 times 
👍 well done
10 star review
extra crusty, 11/10
I'm... not?
Even in HSR where the powercreep is ass, there are 100% reruns worth pulling, and older DPSes that can keep up for a lot longer with some extra investment
i saw a different one, like, it was an excel. this one is much clearer with pictures
i felt so dum for not understanding it that i just didn't ask anyone what it said lmao
Difference is here in pgr vertical investment is really bad overall
kingyuan coming back from the grave for the 346703923th time
ong
Sunday revived hin
me when im in ppc and my head glitches and you can see my EMPTY skull in the end screen
I used ion in lightning ib 😭
It's fine I'm fixed now
insane!
girl what
i wanna try that too...
Gotcha! I like considering both, it just concerned me that everyone discouraged rerun pulls and the like. For other games I usually get "pull who you like at the end of the day, just keep in mind this unit will be 5x stronger than yours", so my alarms went off lol
550k total 
let's do a test
if you could change one thing to the game or change something what would you do
282k lightning 266k fire
The actual goat, I'm a proud day 1 King Yuan haver
FIX THE EARLU GAME STORY
Wait who, me?
I'm still salty I lost 50/50 to granpa
fr
fix sprites so they don't have 10 different artstyles?????
I lost to grandpa on Mydei's banner
Yeah the difference is in PGR there isnt the same kind of vertical investment unfortunately, since in HSR having certain teammates or eidolons can actually help alter playstyle or totally delete a unit's weaknesses entirely (cough algaea e1) . In addition, RNG equipment is its own heaven and and hell. You can make a unit abnormally powerful with absurd RNG relics or make them weak
In a way, the benefit is in pgr you cannot RNG alter your units performance. Their power is set in stone, its just up to you to gradually unlock their fragments to make small improvements over time. No rng needed
The loss is that ... power is set in stone so it can't be improved beyond what the devs give them
THIS!!! thank you
Oh yeah that one purifying force guy
WHO MADE THIS
Though the sprites are the least of my worries they need to fix the story first
Fixing the sprites is like a bottom 5 priority for then rn
yeah well you already mentioned the story so i had to pick a different struggle
but it bothers me a LOT
Yeah the difference is in PGR there isnt the same kind of vertical investment unfortunately, since in HSR having certain teammates or eidolons can actually help alter playstyle or totally delete a unit's weaknesses entirely (cough algaea e1) . In addition, RNG equipment is its own heaven and and hell. You can make a unit abnormally powerful with absurd RNG relics or make them weak
In a way, the benefit is in pgr you cannot RNG alter your units performance. Their power is set in stone, its just up to you to gradually unlock their fragments to make small improvements over time. No rng needed
The loss is that ... power is set in stone so it can't be improved beyond what the devs give them
bruh copypasta 😭

The most beautiful blonde baby with phoebe
side eyes in just having pulled e1 aglaea
That's true, I haven't considered the fact that lack of gear RNG is also a curse. I was really hoping dupes were more powerful, but with how they give them away like candy... it was copium lol
kamui my bbygirl and phoebe my daughter with kamui
eos the game
yea! thats about it
like i said, the PvE endgame is perfectly doable, so long as you have atleast a handful of the meta units, no need to strictly follow it until you wanna start leaderboard-malding.
we're happy to give advice here, but don't forget that we do nothing but meta here. but dont let that discourage you from atleast having fun with the game 
The real way most people of the same investment compete is purely off of skill
Isn't she just beautiful
bro what

the fact that i know the guy who made this personally, is a deep regret of my life
Perfect, seems like my way to play is not dooming me for eternail failure lol, thanks!
oh uhhhh add timestop uniframe executes and GIVE THEM END GAME CUZ I REALLY LOVE UNIFRAME GIMMICK AUGH
In PGR? That makes sense
You're both german?
where is this going
I thought you knew him like irl
nah lmao
knew him for a long ass time on discord
Unleash the beash
i would say they need new frames
noan my child :(
2 already got new, hope is alive
Kamui's child 
my promised kamui comeback... doko 😔
Kamui dark tank doko
Yeah id just adjust your mindset-- im a fan of both games and I kinda like PGR because I don't feel pressure to have to whale or if im f2p, constantly feel behind because I can't afford dupes for big upgrades to a unit. When you pull on a banner in pgr, you just need the base copy in order to basically f2p farm its upgrades.
Also I wouldn't be jealous of old accounts in pgr, new players have a good start. My account is ancient from 2020/2021 and I recently returned only a month ago. Sure I have a lot of very very old S rank units but ngl I probably should have just started a new account in order to get more premium currency lol
after Bianca, hopium
assuming I dont care about WZ, who should I SS3 using the Checked Target Banner?
I have all the meta units
Im thinking Nanaknight?
Save for selena
nanaknight ss3 seems eh..... kinda
Ss3 nanami is good too
- Lucia: Pyroath
- Selena: Pianissimo
- Ishmael: Parhelion
- Nanami: Startrail
- Hanying: Solacetune
- Vera: Geivaror
its one of the better ones actually
makes her capable of solo ignition if you dont want donatello
Pyroath being number 1 isn't real i regret my choice
someone told me that this lists Pyro as top 1 bcoz of Plasma?
but if i dont use plasma
and it doesnt make her easier/smoother to play in regular fire?
But otherwise selena ss3 opens up hee kit
in regular physical right?
You do the same rotation pretty much
Yes
ayt ill save for Selena
Yessssss
which leap skill do I level on crimson weave?
all of them
Wait do u need to level all of them for the mission
@azure barn what should i select?
I'm new player
I have everything missing tho
only got watanabe hanying and cw and uh feral from the shukra selector
other than that, no
Oh if you have Epitaph then you really have only one choice
Shukra
ok
ploom 
i wanted to ask which characters are likely to get replaced or are underwhelming in the current meta
or they're in the meta because no other option
nanaknight
The only one that's confirmed to be getting replaced is Lamia
need new light tank asap 
Since New Bianca just got announced a bit recently
I'm just talking about the community's view, not the official
Oh then
what do you all think as of right now
Scire is still meta rn but it's not worth investing into her atp
Especially when we have no good way of getting her rn
Then I guess Kaleido, but she's free so just get her regardless
GG new Bianca?
it's mostly old units
- because their respective teams are in the bottom tier in terms of overall strength
(Ice is actually the worst team)
Yep, Dark Attacker with new Light Affix
wait fr?
Yep lowest average scores in CN rn
If we're not counting incomplete teams like Darkflow
have you ever played s rank qu shukra without a signature with your life on the line
with a bunch of black cards in your mouth
well since the time is completely f2p, I guess so
me next patch
this is DARK KURO psychology
It's been ages since she got something new... looking forward to it
We see her all the time tho ngl
The moment she got benched as a Trueslash Main DPS, she suddenly became a Dark Attacker
Yeh
Before glb get her i go to tw server how try her
And play a s0 5 and after sig shukra
solon bias
She's one of the top favorites in PGR, always in the meta one way or another
is it worth for pulling ishmael's CUB?
its good but newer characters are always a bigger priority
It's basically a permanent 40% ATK Buff so yes
Atp tho I suggest saving it for Pianissimo CUB
what element is pianissimo again?
There is a character in cn which uses lance but turns into two swords on using her ulti?
Physical with Glacial Affix (the one that Wanshi has)
vera?
Not a lance but Vera
Her new version?
yea
Yeh
aight so ig im getting her (my physical team so ass i literally just got solacetune's sig rn)
Dang now I'm confused now... should I skip DMC and get vera or go DMC and skip vera...
Or get both
For optimal pulls, you gotta get both
If you can only choose 1 of them, I'd skip DMC (I'm kinda biased tho)
Not enough cards to get both to SS tho.. if only one I could get to SS
is there a blue card selector in the near future?
DMC is assumed to have a shorter lifespan compared to the actual PGR units
We think it resets per Anniv rn, but we don't have confirmation
so ig im just gonna save these blue bois
Btw wasn't bianca stigmata dark ele before? how come she is a physical now...
I need Bianca for all ele
Sorry for the late reply 
Yeah that's all I needed to know really, it sounds like I don't need to worry about meta slaving to keep up as much as I thought
I can't say I'm not jealous of old accounts haha, I can get over not having the NieR crew, but I'm really fond of BRS and I was obsessed with it 10 years ago so that hurts a little :')
Goated bio btw lol
All of them are outdated tho sadly
Heck Balter is so trash in Trueslash that going off element in Trueslash PPC gives you a better score
GG I play pgr just for bianca I don't know much about other characters
Man I thought Bianca was so cool I was going to get her even knowing she's getting powercrept next patch.
But then I found out I also really like the character who is about to powercreep her.
R.I.P. Bianca Stigmata, may your 11 inver-shards rest in peace in my inventory </3
From the looks of her current Beta kit tho, she can actually become an alternative Lightning Attacker
Cuz of her Light Affix (it can interact with Lightning buffs/debuffs)
It's kinda funny how her Affix kit looks stronger than her Main kit
Was there a new character besides the new vera and DMC?
That has always been the case
After DMC it's just New Bianca
There's a new Bianca frame
True
So ppl saved to solo nana
That's the one?
The artstyle change makes her not look like Bianca lmao
Yes
I will be damned
It's the same with Vera
she's like a milky chocolate
Behold
Yeah lol
I like this new art style a lot better (the long and squished faces were so weird I'm sorry)
but it makes some characters hard to recognize
She looks like one of those healing units
can someone double check if thunderbolt manual is in the event section? im struggling to find it.
setsu could lillith theoretically work in glow team
Yes but why
healer redo unit
it's in the very left section if you scroll
is her ion rot weaker than feral light rot?
thank you
or is her ion buff weaker than feral buff
does 21: feral needs upgrade beyond base S + sig since she's now just a QTE bot?
kinda just tcing since empress uses feral
She remain qte bot
i was wondering what advantages does feral bring instead of using lillith
Btw does our server not have 'PGR' tag? I have been searching for a while...
no
Just her Sig is enough since she wouldn't be going onfield at low invest
So her rank doesn't matter
for memory resonance it's class skill / core passive then the rest doesn't matter yea
Just Class Skill
Wouldn’t it be convienient to think its just related with replacing cw
Into bianca

where the stockings at kuro?
What.
It's fine, the crack-like tattoos look beautiful
Tattoos are underrated, they should do it more 
if I have a 6 star and 5 star version of the same weapon and no one else can use the 5 star version, should I salvage it or use it for resonance with another weapon?
also what resource is best to use for memory resonance?
I actually not interested in bianca until v3
Have to work with nonomi fire strat first
Meta changes every week
For memo reso it's the reso picker from WZ shop, but you don't get a lot of it
You'd still usually use memo dupes for resos
I usually only use the reso pickers for bot resos cuz they're usually specific skills (like Class or Signature Move)
Where do you even get those besides simul shop? It's the same price with simul currency as buying them directly and then using them as dupes
Simul shop is the best way to buy anything in this game
Then why buy the dupes to use as resonance if it's the same price as resonating with simul tokens directly? Or am I misunderstanding something
buy me some rc then

Oh that's just an easy way to resonate with memo dupes
why is your name that when shes in selector now?
So that you don't have to go back and forth
It's a different selector, separate from the Standard Banner
And it's only up to Shukra
hes a qu lover
Oh I see
When ignition nonomi better than wata?
When nana is higher ranks than wata or need to be nonomi 3s?
Par when both of them s+
Wait so it's gonna be a free selector separate from the annual base banner selector? 
I think when they're both SSS, Nanaknight becomes better
Nonomi superior if wata is lower rank than nonomi
Yes
What kind of free we're talking about?

You're asking the wrong person :p
It's the usual "do missions and get this selector from one of the milestones"

Like past event selectors
The missions are all easy to do, cuz basically all of them are involved in ur dailies and event gamemodes
So ss3 nonomi istead ss0 wata
Even with ss0 liv yet?
Why we are talking about empyrea
How good is ss0 solacetune for enabling true slash?
Im glb dude
And need more score on fire
Now
Ah timeline mismatch
I think the swap cd will interfere with this since Ignition Nanaknight rotation is pretty short iirc
It might result in Empyrea getting more field time and that's a no no
What
You could try again with Geiravor
Would work better with Ignition Nanaknight's short rotations
Hi kai 
Hello bro
Hru
Am fine, just pretty bummed out by Dark WZ
I got unlucky on Lamia's last swap and got All Blue orbs so I couldn't trigger Scire QTE
🥀 replace Daren
Hi guys soo I've SS the 3 of em, and idk which one should I SS next, should I save it up for nextpatch or I'll SS my obliv for now?
Daren is ruining days
Ss orblivion
I'm honestly more pissed at Lamia than Scire LMAO
Pls dont
With geir i will do that
But thanks to mention the info for rota interference
But i made one try atleast
Save ur skulls for Pianissimo
Okay thx and I'm about to SS my wanshi too 4 more shards left
I am already feeling bad for the feesh
feesh did nothing
Feesh felt offele
I will thx
Because of daren
Should I SS my obliv for now?
Yes






