#📨・meta-help
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Then skip dmc it is, you can solo burn with nana anyway
so that's 8k saved if u won't use it on vera/selena
38k is the BC amount
i can get vera without any bc cost

selena is the problem
No ones picking dmc cuz their goood, their novelty to have , its fkn dmc
BRS was never meta
and 8k events
Yea so 8k saved
Oh
I mean, I like dmc, but not to the point of bricking myself over them
not much
thus sig easily aquired for bianca
Eh I'll just see it after next patch starts
unless u 80/20 lose
It's only Dante and Virgil
BRS was never relevant
Nier
Oh come on just one copy pf each is 20k +10k for both weapons, and 7k for cubs,its easy
I don't talk about 9s and a2
(I forgot)
Yeah I was wondering about that too but I didn’t join pgr during that collab
I only joined for brs
if they dont wanna get dmc thats no problem, im not pulling anyone either
Nuh uh, the patch after DMC is yet another S rank and I don't know if she needs SS3 or not
Nier was meta for 1 year
I'll definitely go for Vergil
JUST CUZ
PPC
Needs this ,needs that ,HAVE YOU EVER THOUGHT WHAT YOU ACTUALLY NEED?
u dont want to cheese ts boss with ion/glacio? 
I can't have that, cuz I'm getting 1. Lucia's wedding skin, 2. SeLena SS3
i'll never play slash team so not losing sleep skipping vergil lol
Need high invest for that
Yes, a girlfriend
45s by bilibili dalao with 22.12 Glacio team on hell POWERED
...dam ..sht just got real
Where I saw 222 TS team do it in 37s
how 32.33 looked
any sauce
Then ye you'll just do 1 big phat rot
Okay Selena hater
Not my fault she needs SS3
easy sig for shukra @unborn hound only 180$
Pwowq sent some videos check
He pinged me
Or search 22.12
next patch unity getting upgraded right
found 2.333 with 14 16 19 kill
Yes, weap reso def costs 180$
do we gotta reinstall the game again?
like a 5 or 6 stack rot?
honestly not too bad, that's my investment inc
Ye
https://b23.tv/VRHSMdq
233 012 glacio 
Cuz regular 1 rot too short 2 rot too long
https://b23.tv/fpM1mzd
done with 2.333 322
mmmmmmm more wonky dodge cancels
NOOOOOO
I'll have 232 112 111
If you're full 333 maybe you can do 4 blaze wata for less dodge cancels? Idk not sure
i should have 2.333 111 111 at begin of august
Whale
Not having 3S Echo will hurt me badly
Same
wtf no 3s echo in big 25?
honestly i might skip sss lilith for sss echo 
I care about Wanshi more sadly
I only got 3S echo like last week
My dumb ass invested in kaleido first, ignoring Echo
let her chill at ss3 for now
with new bianca right around the corner? 😭
Dam u right that is pretty dumb 
ok thats fair actually i forgot about him 
For some reason I thought that was the right thing to do
Yeah, even tho I have excess wep reso, it's too late to give her any
dw, i'll have lilith by the time bianca comes out, unless she's getting released with dmc for us
some dumb people think investing in kaleido in this day and age is a good decision just goes to show how stupid they are
that is a good point though. if kuro will make dmc a standalone or bundle it with another patch
next patch 3x so omega good for us whales to get vouchers 
Fk whel
pak whel
how you forgot about the only good ice unit that is meta ice tank
im a whel myself
Fck whel
hey listen i may be stupid
i second this
and ...
i nearly got enough skulls for vera, selena and wanshi
then gonna start dumping into lilith for ss7 then eventually get her with skulls then echo full sss with just vouchers
bro says the sentence like there is more to it but left it there
if we getting bianca in september then im bing chilling
im not gonna have enough skulls to ss vera on release
you guys have enough skulls to ss on release
?
im just starting to be able to gather skulls to s5 on release
I have like 1.1k skulls right now
You don't?
they are old players so they got stocks

fkn whale
Timiboy is not new
enough for 2 ss
i took like a 3 month break and havent broken out of the skull deficit
i only have like 540 skulls
If you dont have skull stockpile u suck
Oh, that's on you then I guess
why he is shocked about than
It'll be enough for 3 when next patch drops so i have way excess
i got 500 from spender event + 400 from feral bp 
Just don't stop playing then, smh
I have 2
Devote your entire life to kuso
since wata ive been scrounging for ss0 3-4 weeks after debut it's been hard
sm so that i cant afford skulls on any free unit
I really have nothing to use the skulls on
yea u right
I cant even use them on harmo cylinders since i have an excess of those too
I don’t know
or if i stop playoing dont come back 
I have 1.9k rn
oh harmo cylinders are way too abundant
Literally nothing to use them on
easy skulls
i gotta force myself to play cr
Wait, i can do the funni
;-;
dont do the funni
🐳
how much skulls you get a week if you get 1.8mill ppc again?
I don't remember if I got my Garnet to SS through getting extra copy or skulls



watching bakemonogatari and it just reminds me of erza so much
I'm gonna buy Garnet shards rq
Fk whel
and that's additional 500 skulls
Well fck

I did buy them out
dw ill break out of skull deficit soon
Bro casually spent half my lifetime topup
um, 2 ig

what stable job and no real life does to mf


💳
We're on the 4th week of the patch iirc
i want a stable job smh my head
no social life can be fixed by discord
broke uni student bizz just sucks
thats what i've been doing
harmo
stable job and discord for socializing 
it is 3 but after 2 days its gonna be next patch on 3rd reset
Give me stable job
I'm in excruciating pain
mhmm mhmm mhmm got it
8% battery and trying to beat the soul of cinder himself
and turns out some guy tries to buy me out from job 
wakata, ore no screwed
doesn't that sounds familiar 
poor pyro, dead as fk

Fabio is a professional pillow princess
are u doing dfm ?
Norman
ah
Im doing this boss with only pyroath there everyone else is busy
ripge
You can literally swipe 12$ to buy feral bp and be good
freaking soul of cinder boss bro
what does a pillow princess do
what da actual
Be pillow
12 dolla is like nearly a months of food here 
What is THAT supposed to mean?
south america experience
i wish
how much bc were in this patch
South asia
wait where?
this patch
mmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmm no
selena patch
Africa?💀
rough but still in lower standings
F
F
While that does look like a lot , in reality its only 3times the usual amount 
40k vouchers if u buy out whole bps next patch 
good to know that I'll be getting that sss dante and sss vergil
If i start hoarding now and pull an all nighter this weekend doing story
and other gamemodes
with pulling vera and selena, right? right?
No.

Buddy at least get vera
what does that even mean
I will take this gid
thatswhatisaid
gif
.....
I go out every day
Even when I don't want to
too old for it
It's ok I'll actually get her
when she reruns
70% banner gamble let's go.
💀
windows r
dont u know, kamui is next 
ty
cmd enter
HAHAHAHAHA
he got hella buffed
@unborn hound have u been doing chapters by any chance
Do we know any info about arrival banners next patch?
nop, we waiting for info on twitter
I wanna pick up pyro from it if I can
oh wait
U should save your
kuro games is gonna be in the summer game fest happening in
one hour
PGR and Wuwa content 🔥
i bet mambo's life that pgr will be inncluded
I don't I think I need to
Pyroath is so fun
HE BETTER BE DARK TANK
very
everyone is so fun
except teddy I genuinely have no idea how to play her
Yo true
Also I calc how many vouchers u need to get a character
It's 40,080 vouchers
teddy def fun
Play her trial stage
shes spam but the fun kind
You can use bc to pull them in the R&D research tab
I've used that on shukra
spam orb and when bar full hold basic. when ult ready hold ult and spam orbs until bar full and hold ba.
Am I supposed to rotate into 21 after nanami/alpha?
Not really unless she's REALLY well built
So SS3 or SS3+sig
can someone explain ss3 pyroath's plasma beam rot to me? i m dumb dumb.
You do rotate feral if you're using her
@carmine reef what is ion set for lilith 4 DV 4 guin?
Yes
Eins triggers on 3p
Lilith blue is dark dmg
Eins will apply dark shred and then be on cd for half of lucia's rot
Her qte also reverts to dark after lucia's rot which means it will be on cd after applying dark shred on nanami rot
And lastly, ion just wave chains too hard anyway
During lucia's field time every wave basically evaporates

And lucia's field time is all that matters
rest might as well be 0 dmg
I have eins harmo set up for nihil but you wont be using lilith for nihil cuz fk whel
So you can basically ignore eins on lilith entirely
wat if biankek
Lightning debuff actually applies through qte. You can even see 2 eins icons at the same time
is the new Bianca frame confirmed to come out the same patch as the DMC?
sometimes when doing qu 3 times rotation, i wont have the quick rotation on her 3rd rotation, and instead have the long rotation with the hold basic.
void runs dv guin eins lilith?
not if u whel ish
i have 4 ish
just wait for vera as void amp
Not when joker mark expires
ow wait i can't do ion yet
And eins wont retroactively update
Joker mark lasts 15s from first hold ba, which expires about 1s into nanami rot
are the recommended equipment really the best possible in the game?
No
not exactly
then how can I find the best equipment possible for characters?
use #📨・bot-info
Am I better to gamble on Qukra dupes for SSS5 on Fate Arrival or is it better to eventually get Solacetune or Lullaby overflow shards ? 
Are u p2w?
he's f2p+
3/4 free to play
Just say ur a dolphin
Anyway get solacetune
last quarter is leviathan i guess
on which acc 
Main one obv
who i prio sig, alpha or qu
i mean why not just wait till anniversary
it should be either next or dmc
i mean i have 3 free pulss from login on fate arrival
definitively not alpha
id like to know what to target eventually
either 3S5 dupe or overflow shards
cuz I don't think SSS6 shukra will ever help me considering i'm getting S+ LD at the same time
while overflow shards sounds like stockpiling materials again
true
man the whale specie had gone extinct
atleast with overflow u can freely exchange to any shards
is it possible to get from 16/60 pity to 60/60 in the remaining 17 days for the event (lvl 49..)??
themed banner?
prolly not
but just keep rushing and dump all your pulls there either way
a chance of getting is far better than saving for nothing
afterall the pulls carry over
@frail hinge hey anything good in the summer fest thing

I got ish in first 10pull this patch
very lucky cuz 0.5% base rate
majority of the time you hit pity but there is always small chance
or u go fate like real one


weapon banner is enough gambling for me
stop glazing
almost hitting 100 in fate
we not on hoyocord, you dont want to off them from grid
Im banned from hoyo servers for doomposting
spend on ur waifu
maybe I will roll on ishmael since I do need her for the nihil stages
luna is kinda lacking atp especially since she is only SS
and ishmael is SS too
oh yea lemme pull her sig rq
whel behaviour
k
I still have a decent chunk of black cards
and I still didnt touch matrix or any other similar gamemode
now save
I will do those when dmc collab comes out
I think I need to pull 1 more unit till I can save for dmc
forgot her name but its apparently important
don't save my guy u can get everyone every patch
oh so I can pull both dante and vergil?
aint that like 21k bc tho
not counting any of the sigs or cubs
U get Dante free bro
just pull Vergil
also dont use BC on cubs or base banner
just target weapon and not fate
yea but he is only S
and you cant really SS them afterwards
since they are gonna be gone forever no?
yes but what's the point..
@last blade your name why is it like that
the dudes in my nicknames are all goats
look bro you're gonna stop like halfway and you'll never afford sss+ to go the full mile as F2P anyway it's just a waste of money it's a number for units that are only good at super specific endgame content that gives dogsht rewards
oh really so you decieded to be a simp and name your self after them so when ever they ping you they have to kinda write down other twos name too while cringing
yes yes
Abyss you know sometimes its good to just sybau for once
they don't rlly have to write anything tho just reply
like you just did to ping me
smartassss
people play gacha games to simp for waifu and husbandos this guy plays gacha games to simp for people who play gacha games amazing
not everyone simps
yessss I'm simping for text
hehe zane
still going for SS on both Ima just buy the montly passes again
uhhh dont that means you only gotta pull Vergil once..
I like Coles design and the lighting guy ability
cuz Dante skulls to ss
black lightning would go hard
man they're all goated
YO BLACK LIGHTNING
yh I meant favorite
well you do you i was just curious as to why you name your self like that and i think everyone has their own taste i am sure it will give these 3 individuals you have in your name an ego boost
I don't think you understand what an ego is
if anything it's the opposite because I'm not self centering
are you 18 or above
by having these guys on my nick
dante will be S since its going to be free and vergil will have to get pulled once so I have to pull an extra dante to get SS3 on dante and SS on vergil
yh its the opposite
say "SYBAU" to me again and you are the next person in my block list
are you 18 or above
won't they be in PPC shop? can't you get Dante SS from there
I heard from someone that they aint there
if they are tho it will make my life a whole lot easier
sadly not
you misunderstood i did not say it would give you ego boost i ment the 3 individuals name you put in your discord profile name those individuals will get ego boost
well let them
thats their point
they deserve it for helping tons of people here
lmao
I'm gonna cry
yeah sure okay
it only took me like 30k sim coins to get all the stuff I wanted bruh Im hella lucky today 😭
time to do story I've been stuck at chapter 13
its fine either swipe or ask parents
yea around 30k
aight no no I can do it without
haven't touched any other mode or story
that's 1 Vergil atleast
do you need a guild or collaboration
collab characters are in their own specific banner and use their own specfic currency but black cards being universal currency can be exchanged for it and no they dont appear in pain cage shop for 30 free shards
ok how you 109 u came back after a break?
Ima just swipe and also complete all the matrix / siege etc stuff
ah that's sad
that should get me 2 pulls easily
lmao
for what?
No.. I joined the game since brs patch and have been playing consistently since
I just have a shtton of exams this year so never got to doing the story or any other mode 😭
1 dante 1 vergil pull
I still got everyone ss0 R1 tho that's fire
ah rip now time to grind
pgr is just that friendly
game mode like matrix give only yellow tickets you cant use yellow tickets in collab banner
true
NOOOOOOOOOOOO
ahhh so I should use them on the next character I pull then
FUUUUU<UUUUUUUUUUKV
and save bc instead ty for telling me

yeah use them on normal characters
ZEX FUKCYOU
I still have a lot of bc remaining
yeah i just few seconds ago told you that collab characters use their own currency or black cards being universal currency can be exchanged for that currency
but I didn't know about the modes only giving yellow
nice
I'm gonna cry brb
k ishmael is ready
so zex told you the opossit ?
daam
freaky ahh sponge
when you gonna add my name to your profile name i like saved you from future crisis
Out of these three who needs the sig weapon the most?
Ish
yeah but you could say that about 90% of the characters
most versatile reso uses on her sig
@last blade btw strong hold and golden vortex gives alot of bc
ah okay atleast they give bc
hanying wants her sig
good is debatable
give the mommies their sigs
she does like half the dmg without sig
that's good I haven't touched pgr outside of events tab for the past 8 months
true but even without the sig she performs well enough
Im lvl 87 so anything in my stage really
Yeah but she's usable unlike for example qu
uh qu without sig
you won't be performing well against anyone with sig
yeah memory challenge strong hold and golden vortext only game mode that give bc while interludes give 180 bc per characters story and for weekly farming pain cage warzone and norman is your go to place can farm story too
also give Solacetune SS she is already ashamed sitting there
Man qu sigless won't be performing at all
neither will, that's my point
I just got her chill
she takes care of us and so you should be nice in return
well yeah there's that bread and butter
yh dw Im just playing
kk
Yeah ik dw
ofc whether they are good or not depends on your perspective, but from my perspective neither is good without sig
especially without the rest of the team
sigless nanami does actually need swap
also slide them 20K bc for a broke fella🥀
Dmg wise I can skip weapons at least for now what matters is if they become like qu without sig
I am saving why do you think I can afford one weapon

yay or nay
you're prolly the first person I saw that types it like yea 😭
Yay
that's
literally how it is supposed to be spelled
"yay" is a modern day spelling that did not exist back then
yay sounds better Ima stick to that
it's pronounced the same
too bad we could have asked trs to clarify but he's not here
but "yea" is how it was spelled
💔
"yay or nay" is not and never was a thing
zex
https://youtube.com/shorts/oodS_hyIOic I don't think he really cooked with that drink there
why are you sending this here and now
can you watch and give me your thoughts
i've already seen it
are you kidding me
and there's no reason to be posting this in gph
zex confirmed doomscroller gg
what does this have to do with doomscrolling
what does the video have to do with doomscrolling
ITS A SHORT
i've seen it because i watch lots of food and cooking videos
YIY DOOM SFROLL SHORTS
My shorts feed is normal
STILL DOOMING SCROLLLNG
not really
YES REAally
doomscrolling is sitting there scrolling for ages
watching a youtube short is not doomscrolling
I only watch the shorts of channels im subscribed to
stop going offtopic
Man nobody's here except us
Between Pryoath, Ushmael and Likith weapon, which one should I harmony first?
GOOD QUESTION
pyroath harmo options: cottie (damage, for fire), wilde (damage, for plasma)
ish harmo options: cottie (damage, for nihil), guin (support, for any off-ele amp substitution)
lilith harmo options: cottie (damage, for dark), eins (support, for nihil), guin (support, for plasma or any other off-ele amp substitutions with luna)
choose whichever use case you think you need first
or rather, which character you want to harmo based on which use cases you think you need first
what are your teams like sir
What to prioritize in simulation shop
sim shop is for anything
whatever you need
it's the general store 
Ohhh okay
bro didn't believe me when i told him fire was dead this week
ew doesn't trust me. hurts so bad
Does version limited stuff matter?
not rly
version limited stuff is:
discount on sig memories (they will still be around next patch, just not discounted)
furniture (for dorms, just cosmetic/fun)
gifts (still attainable through random gift boxes, also affection is just fun/lore)
assuming you mean version limited items in the simulation shop specifically
zex be honest with me you cash out on the furniture too right
i didn't during normal patches where i actually had to care about resources
ahh
i do during sync because we get more currency than i could possibly need
my life without synchro was short lived iirc I also didn't
I'm gonna miss synchro man
i didn't have lilith
what is Bambi

me
OHHH THE RANDOM MF GETTING SKINS FOR NO REASON
she was actually a pretty goated A rank for her time
also personally i think her playstyle is really cool
Hi everyone
Im broke gl
no thanks
damn ion is fun
tho idk how to rot ploom
over 1 hour wuwa wouldn’t trust you neither
it wouldn't need to be 1 hr if yall weren't so needy
@carmine reef ican get the 5 slash thing consistently now. pyroath needs full bar of energy to make it work. thx for your help
yo fire
proud of u son
a shame I've never touched any of the a ranks I've gotten
I'm like 100% sure teddy is fun but never tried
teddy is fun
she basically has a gen2 S rank kit
you wouldn't be able to tell from watching her gameplay that she's an A rank, other than the timer not stopping
i have teddys sig. its so fun, changes her game play
pretty legit damage too
Zex do you think 20s is possible for plasma ib with 323 112 111 invest 
I keep getting 21
for an A rank
i don't have sss lucia bro idk
BRUH
should i give nanami her sig before considering to ss3 + sig piano girl' in terms of priorities, or nana “doesnt need it”?
they be doing anything to make hyperlee look like a flop ☹️
sigs always (for relevant units) before ss3
I should probably go back to malding ion wz
3.9m with that invest is doodoo 
I never learned ion rot so I wantapped it first
how do the numbers work is there a bot to explain the 111w stuff
I'm planning on learning 5s properly later
numbers where cause w isn't related to what we're talking here
It's /notation
w is a unit of measurement used in east asia that denotes 10,000
just like the west uses k as a unit of measurement to denote 1,000
Ye
i see some youtube videos use w so i didnt know if that was part of notation
Since the character for 10000 is 万(wan)
that's their score
got it
the notation you see here
is describing his team's invest
but that has nothing to do with the w
it's a condensed and concise way to give a lot of information about your team
2.1 and 2.3 r the same thing?
Looks a bit intimidating to learn at first but once you get the hang of it it's really easy
Yeah
ye just different preferences for ppl
i prefer .3 cause in my head i'm thinking ss3
🐳
Some people use 2.3 since yknow, ss3
A bit more intuitive for some
btw feyer has 5m ion with i'm pretty sure a 222.3 team so
2.322.3 201 101 is it obvious my nana is ss?
Yea
So I should be hitting like, 7m
ofc we can read the notation
if you're in legend probably yeah
what does 222.3 team means
is there a place that i can compare wz scores to based on similar invest
i'm kinda getting the same score with ss3 lucia and it's possible i'm skill issued but i'm also in hero so it's possible i'm just gated by waves being too squishy
Hero rn because I wasn't at 100 merit to promote
im getting just shy of 4m
brother please i literally JUST posted the notation graphic and discussed it
Backreading doesn't exist 
what would you say for 5* sigless character if 0 means r0
scroll up literally half a screen from that msg
Just 5
oookk
So for example, 222 005 110
its never that deep bro i just wanted to know
that's my Ayla lmao
bro
Was a bit confused by that at first too lol
Since /notation doesn't include that
you wanted to know
there's literally an infographic there
made for the purpose of you learning it
yeah we should probably make a new one
i don't like that they wrote dps instead of attacker bc people get confused about the order
Ye
no
Nah
nanami is tank
The set order to list is attacker tank amp
To not confuse people
ah okay always
hols up but ain't lightning meta team nanami garnet feral...
2 tanks..
no
or is that zaza
that's not meta
That's zaza yea
I'll be damn
and the fact you got confused is exactly why i think we should redo it
is 21: feral any good or just wait till i pull the other 21 A rank
gn how late is it
she's meta lightning amp
Assuming everyone at ideal invest the meta light team would be cw nana feral
2 40 am 👍
Hey, how to unlock Machevelli boss fight in Caelia class ?
Asking for my brother!
So my brother played for awhile, got some characters, and then he got busy, cut to it being 5 months later, he logs in, no characters, nothing, it starts him from the beginning. Hes in the right server (global) and it’s the right account, what does he do?
gn lil bro
You need to fight it then view it in your profile
I AIN'T LIL BRK HOW OLD ARE YOU
does ice team suck without sss wanshi and sss ayla
20 lil bro
wtf fr?
ya
No, ss3 wanshi is perfectly servicable
Im also gonna sleep
yo what time
oh not bad
milk boy
well gn then Eid things
btw u chill in ch1 ingame a lot
Is he remember his nickname? Try search it in here https://huaxu.app/
Explore players and other data from the Punishing: Gray Raven outside of the game.
I fought him in Outlier zone of PPC, beat him on knight, he does not seem to appear in my codex or Caelia class.
Do i need to fight him somewhere else ?
its open all day
i have qu ss3 r1, wanshi ss3 r1, and ayla ss. feels so trash
What score?
ill have to wait till tomorrow i did my ishmael today
just 7 shards and ishmael is sss
you know what that sounds like
im seeing a bunch of people one tapping ppc with ice, and i aint doing all that

@carmine reef i was trying to see about rotations, i was trying to use solo qu. is wanshi swap qu better?
solo qu
for ppc it really depends, you have a bit of an odd invest configuration
i only been back a couple weeks
for quick kills that can be solod your qu is probably faster
but for a kill that requires multirot you probably should do wanshi into qu
also need to pick up aylas weapon
i'd normally say you shouldn't bother but you're clearly 🐳
Thanks bro, you are awesome

https://huaxu.app/na/players/17076558/characters any help on ice would be nice
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didnt mean to rhyme
for wz wave management, is it best to try and finish off a wave before ulting? Like if there’s a sliver of hp on one wave and u ult, the run is cooked?
it's best to try and finish it off without wasting time
and when you say r0 are you meaning weapon resonance
Mhm
usually that means adjusting the rotation somewhere either by changing qtes, slightly changing the order of an action, doing a different order of swap, etc
yes
Like on pyroath I can either use more sword waves or instal ult eclipse
you got ss6 r2 qu and going for sss ish but your tank is r0
there's some real mismatch of investment priorities 
ive been doing dorm to get her up
R3 Lilith 
Maybe i can't unlock Machievelli boss because it was event boss ?
I dunno why it does not appear in my codex after beating him
yeah
i really went wild with the weapon resonances i cant take back
it could mean you end sword waves earlier, it could mean you sword wave longer, it could mean you hit qtes earlier or later, it could mean you do a whole different rot instead of doing eclipse there, etc
is domain deconstruction huge on wanshi?
So just try different stuff until I get a higher score lol
well
yes but maybe don't just try stuff randomly lol
although i understand that it might be hard to actually know what to change when you're new to this
Wish I had sss Lilith for that qte uptime
what team do you mean
Plasma
i don't think it should be that much of an issue for plasma
lilith is dv holder and she can't trigger her own dv
so lucia should always have dv available
nanami might not have qtes available on first ult but also she's not the main dps
she's just the filler. so it's whatever
and you also gotta remember that the sss qte reset is inconvenient in many ways too
like lilith hold ba triggers qtes
and you can't swap when qte is available, you have to use the qte and then wait for the qte to end
so sss lilith is hard gated by 2 seconds to swap
this isn't so much an issue in plasma but it's really annoying for my light zaza
Yeah gotta remember to qte pyroath during her hold ba or the run is cooked
What is zaza
i'm using lilith instead of feral in my lightning wz
Same
without luna though
Ditto
cause i'm running swap
so it's a bit weird
cause lilith doesn't have lightning buffs by default
you have to start ion rot and then she only has them for a short period of time
Does zaza just mean mix match elements with void
zaza just means something unconventional
it just so happens that the void chars enable a lot of zaza strats
but there's no void char in my lightning team
cw nanaknight lilith
Why Lilith instead of ish?
i have to start ion rot to get joker's mark on lilith in order to have lightning buffs, which only lasts 15s, but sss qte reset means i lose 2 seconds of that to waiting on qtes
O u have higher invest Lilith
it's a tradeoff
lilith better amp but loses her buffs for half the run
for me the tradeoff is worth it
I used to run nana fire tank with pyroath before I got ish
with ish i capped at like
It was not good
uhh
ish swap capped at 4.9m, ish solo with cw 1 rot at start strat capped at 5.2m
lilith swap at 5.7m
Ah maybe I gotta try it
by ish solo i mean nanami solo with ish as the amp
My ish is replacing feral in my lightning
Is it worth to sss cow
assuming your nanami is invested well
if your nanami is underinvested swap is still viable
no unless 🐳
It can be done slowly via bp shard selectors
Sorry cw

if you don't have the other 3 done, then yeah you can do bp shard only for cw
will take a while unless you max out on BPs though
who knows how much lifetime cw has left
I mean Daren is still here
does nanami luna lilith work when all 3 are SS0
so i guess its OK
what about Lilith Luna Wanshi for Dark
"works" yes
scuffed team cause you have to swap to wanshi
I over invested in ish ss3 r3 since I don’t have Daren or wata
ideally you have sss wanshi
it's not "works" in the same sense as the other one
the luna lilith nanami works cause it's actually objectively better since it's solo and lilith just has more buffs
with work u mean it works but score sucks
the wanshi zaza for dark wz only works because
the actual dark team is just that bad for most ppl
so that case is more of "they're both terrible but you gotta do what you gotta do"
so its rather copium
ye
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it's giga copium cause
wanshi is doing off-ele dmg
and you're spending half the run on him
Before Lilith and ish it was teddy no21 and Luna laurel loll
it's pretty much exactly what we normally tell newbies not to do and we say that's not how to play the game
but in this case the actual dark team is so cheeks that it ends up being better
for people who have underinvested dark
i vouchered my daren to ss3 so i'm using actual dark team myself 
still cheeks though

dark team forever cucked so long as daren exists
at least that can be fixed though
unlike phys which is forever cucked by fundamental design flaws 🤡
ehhhhh maybe not too drastic
its a shame because I like the element itself but not how bad the frames suck
Im just coping
probably gonna have selfish high damage output
i mean it will definitely give dark a boost
@worthy gulch since when u playing EU 
I mean instead of really fixing it we get new affix
but its hard to get a damage boost with garbage shred like daren
daren still gonna be sucking up 6s of field time while contributing negative dmg
her off field shred gets affected by tlc too right?
and she's still the only tank whose field doesn't tick during timestop
do we know anything about a darkflow frame to fill 3rd slot or is it unknown
and the only tank with no extra 10% shred on ss3 and no -3s cd on sss
still unknown
they were 1 frame away from completing the gen3 tank lineup which would also have made darkflow playable
and instead they replaced pakin feesh
Kusogames really the best when it comes to completely fcking up unit release priority

actually them doing that looks even scummier cause it looks like they placed dmc right before half anni on purpose
FOR REAL
I mean its a gacha game afterall
thats not an excuse
Scire the new Rosetta
i mean it has nothing to do with profitability, just common sense
for the average standard gacha it kinda is
they wouldn't have lost money releasing a dark tank
Even worse, they're adding a new affix with dark bianca
WHEN WE DONT EVEN HAVE ALL THE AFFIX TEAMS FLESHED OUT
it's really silly excusing weird decisions with "gacha after all" instead of actually examining if that makes any sense
didn’t you see the people drooling over her on like reddit posts and also here they will swipe
replacing lamia instead of daren does nothing for them from a business perspective
so what
bianca would come out sooner or later
we're talking about the order
i think cn is lighting kuros ass on fire rn lemme check
bc its usually what gacha games do focus on the easy money
bro
Oh yeah speaking of whuch
Zex do you frequent the pgr subreddit or no
there is no change in the money they make from this decision
hell no
even this place is too much sometimes
Good to know
well its interesting what the people in the company are cooking up with these decisions
i don't follow any subs for gacha games, only like
Just wait 5 days till Beta starts
I asked cuz this reminded me of you
I was confused af
ms, sc2, and cs
Then you can cook the hell outta Kuro
Isn't it cbt
Ye, no leaks
as if i would have ss3 premium unit 
But leaks probably gonna happen anyway
i am doing fire with my ish though
it really isn’t maybe for this game but general gachas it’s that seggs sells
oh ffs fk this
yeah but we're not talking about a situation where they don't release bianca
they would release bianca regardless, the sales would happen regardless
we're only talking about the order
these games plan out their character releases like a year in advance
i want to see what they doing
time to submit a negative feedback fr
there's just no good reason to do it this way
Just press the X bruh
I'm thinking it's the story that leads them to bianca
i have to log in to see the rest of the comments i am not registering
No other reason remotely makes sense
Dark bianca looks super similar to balter gacha coating ngl
Half anni so needs to be a main story
They already delayed addressing timeline reset in Selena and vera chapter
Can't very well put chiko for half anni
Half-anni has always been attacker, right?
So it's just kuso being kuso and fcking up release order again
thats fine and all but even if walter isnt a dark attacker, mfers put it right after dmc
who is chiko 
We could've just had dmc after sync like a normal fcking schedule
god can we please not call her walter
and before that is VERA
that guy is active since 3 years ago
admittedly he's still as clueless as before
nah pak u 
LMAO let's always call her walter
Wtf ew
i'm boutta crash out
but i mean whats an actual good name
when did windbellao became 433 player
It's more of "they put dmc before half anni"





