#📨・meta-help
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aight, thanks
Fabio why are hamada and I helping more than you
Guys should i SS nanami or ss3 Hanying?
Y e s
Ss nana is free wdym
Do it as you want to
because you are cronically online and I have stuff to do irl 
I'm not!
I'm just
Not listening to class
I frequent this place from time to time, I just happened to be here today
and I help with what I can
They're saying sht I couldn't ever hope to understand in a single go so I write it down and ignore all ekse

is kuro removing 5 star weapons?

But I mostly enjoy discussing high end gameplay more 
No
i bricked 6250 bc down the drain
Only Co-op
Next patch we get 5* weapon shards from dailies
i want to die
how
oh kk tysm
True, Life of a mega DMC fan IS hard
the 70% off banner
i pulled 25 times on the uh discounted banner the limited summer one
which one 
I mean I'm eventually gonna gonna i don't have nanami yet just got that s rank selecter and blue ticket banner haven't completed yet
Mmmmm
No idea
the summer one it was along wishing target there was a fate version of it too
But maybe use it for nana yeah
60 pulls you can select any s rank i think
and i pulled 25 times but i couldnt pull anymore since im broke
Yo guy's who should I get from voucher shop?
im cooked
Nah that would be insane
does it use blue ticket?
I SHOULD HAVE SAVED IT FOR DMC
i mean next patch you gonna get 30k more bc
will do
Vonnegut hopefully
im gonna save all of it till the last day of dmc and PRAY
if im targetting for sss vergil and dante
i mean sure...
should i prio to ss them first then wep and cub?
I almost ran out of orange ticket 😭😭 how should i save for vera now
clear interlude and extra story
Who should I use my vouchers?
30k tix next patch chill
Oh
lilith being the first then wanshi
what about selena 
Can I use any cub on any unit? Or signature cub have different affect on signature character
Lilith? Okay. She's already at ss
for optimal people go meta for fun choose who you want to SS
you can stop at ss then go for wanshi after that
so that you have more option when you go forward
you would need 90 more shard to get from SS > SSS
Is 40k vouchers enough
i think its enough to only get 50?
im so cooked 77.5k is needed to SSS them both and that isnt even including losing 80/20
time to swipe
What do u need
You use that 80/20 AND NOT THE GUARANTEED 60
Forgot the names
so its the arrival
man i am so confused which one is the wishing banner
The one with blue background is the best
Can I use any cub on any unit? Or signature cub have different affect on signature character
Only 60 pulls
every construct have their own sig cub
I think you can. But to be fair... Who uses cubs?
Do they have special effects on sig cub
Cubs are useless then? What does a cub actually do
they have 30% ish dmg bonus
How useful are cubs?
That’s huge then?
around 3 bar of hp on WZ
i mean if you want to get your construct to full potential
SS/SIG/CUB the most basic you can go
its like a nice but not necessary addition to your characters
So should I not use Crimson cub on Ishmael
some construct need their cub more then sig
fate...?
niche
Hm?
like who
nanami?
nanaknight?
i think there is a post somewhere along the lines in here that mods post
hmm i dont have her cub
i guess the farthest i can go by saving is to either SSS vergil with his full kit but leave dante in the dust or SS vergil with SS3 Dante
You get double the constructs if you pull a copy dude
yeah
thats with wep and cub
@ripe stag do you still have the post about cubs?
just use her as qte bot
i guess i can still save up more if i wait till almost at the end of dmc collab then pulll
Im so lucky that I got Lunas weapon when she released.
- Lamia CUB is a 40% Ult dmg increase
- Wata CUB is a 37.5% Blaze orb dmg increase
- Luna CUB is a 12%-20% dmg increase to her core and ult both her biggest dmg sources
- Hanying about 35% dmg increase for her cores which are her best dmg source that can ramp up dmg
- Lucia CUB is about 15% more ult dmg
- Ishmael CUB basically a permanent 40% ATK buff
- Selena CUB basically 40% permanent ATK buff
- Lilith CUB is free so its not a consideration fk u lilith
- Wanshi CUB 1.5x ult2 + 2.5x ult1
- Nanami CUB 30-40% DMG increase
thanks ❤️
But in all seriousness. How much do you need to spend to get them both to sss. (Dante and Vergil)
52.5k
that's no cub no weap
SS0 Vergil and SS3 Dante with both sig and cub is better than vertical invest Vergil or Dante
77.5k thats with cub and sig for both
31.5k for Vergil
21k for Dante
im so cooked
Considering no sig no cub
that is so werid
Holy.. i could get all that. I'm at 63k bc
Also be sure that you can get all the units before the Collab as well
having SSS with no cub / sig
FIrst time clearing norman with no support. pretty happy with that 
Nah im bricking my account
Who the Frick gave me the whale
congrats
around 35k bc and 8k yc in patch iirc
the affix or something was easy this time
Just don't nag about not being able to do Physical, Glaciation, Fire contents
you can use support units?!?!?!!?
I may not be able to selene or new vera...
idrc about wz and ppc rankings anyway im chilling
But I do got nanam, pyroath at ss so I'm good for now
pull coatings 
this is always the joke no
you are skipping the most used character even in cn tho
No i need vergil and dante
Im not pulling vergil
no genuinely cause i never have support units pop up when i go norman and i get my ass beaten
they're gonna get powercrept next year anyway.... pull coatings 
The most glazed character in history
it should come from your guild mates and/or friends
Oh no wonder i have no friends
HOLY THIS IS
for good reason (he avoids child support)
I don't got those yellow tickets unless I actually finish the y'know the extra games that go e you orange tickets
probably not available when the game mode got released?
Holy
i dont really care if they are gonna get powercrept the next day they look fun ash to play
i mean you dont have to SSS both of them if you are really on tight budjet but its your bc and currency so
Why? I was wondering that too.
bc they are, Im f'in with ya lol
i would be happy with SS3 sig cub
I'm gonna try atleast cuz he taught me a very important life lesson
"do not pay child support"
I'm f2p. I got all that bc from pure luck at getting character early
vibes
its more like "bust and go" tho
yeah, like with cradle's there's much less characters available.
when you catch bullets with it and line em up on the floor perfectly too
Hn... I'll probably try getting all the tickets I can from cradle thing and all the others and see
Who's the better one? Selena or the new vera
Like who's worth it koey
Tips - clear the alternative representations
there's around 8k yellow tickets for next patch events
They give good bucks
That's what I'm gonna do
The new Vera?
Without sig is 
truthfully i would just stop at SS on vera and SS3 on pianisimo
Oh wait nvm
Yea
Bruh I may not be able to get them both calm down-
So just get both mhm...
I can get them to ss through the ppc shop so...
what's the bot command that shows me the next characters and if they're pull only?
vera and pianissimo are both pulls?
SSS VERA. SSS PIANISSIMO. SSS+ JETAVIE. NON NEGOTIABLE.
why don't you pull calc bruh, dont you have 60k in da bank alr
how much upgrade does ss3 pianissimo gives?
Rich... I have 5k

Who's calc.
Me
this what it takes to be a whaler bois
i just realized if im gonna go with my plan on putting all my funds on the dmc collab, my account is gonna be a solo vergil in TS and physic, Dante and nanami on ignite, the meta ice team and jetavie and lilith on dark
all hail the fish industry
And what it takes to be a f2p is doing too much math
Solo lilith will outperform, im pretty sure
sounds about right
Im cooked

What does it mean "Chance to go berzerk" is this character specific or can it apply to any character?
at 3S only me thinks
but i sure am gonna have fun styling on wz
so do I need 30k to make sure I get both vera and piano? 😦
jeta s+ is only slightly lower than lamia is what I heard
it is never a great idea to skip anything pass this point
No... fish at ss0 outperforms jetavie at s+
Guess who fish is outperformed by (its lilith)
bruh read
I said jeta s+ only slightly lower
how much more BCs can I get from today to June 25th? 😭
But lilith is much better than the fish
And only sligjtly lower was before she got a 1000% nerf to core
Character who has the 4 piece
And it says right there what berserk means
nobody is pulling feesh tho
Until leap 😎
Its not close anymore
how she jump with no feet when feesh
Using her weapon
ohhh the increase in dmg is the berzerk i did correlate the two
wait lilith get nerfed?
in any case you could have s+ jetavie and ss0 lilith solo would still be better than swapping
No, jetavie got a 1000% nerf to core during beta
SOLON LET ME HIT EARLY 3 TIMES IN DMC COLLAB AND MY LIFE IS YOURS

Always a nice A rank for guild
She used to be so close to ss0 fish at s+, they had to nerf her
i just want to see their qte timings and how they position for their uppercut
I hope u hit hard pity every single time 
to be fair she is an A rank so
Best a rank for guild will always be bridget
Wait just checked. Have 66k bc
imagine malding on wz ( i am that malder)
teddy ftw
i wish i had that kind of bc
like, Right now?
Yes
Its not even close, bridget goes 600-800k score
i didnt knew wave 19 yield 4.7m score on ice wz wth
How much you got lil bro?
teddy would maybe hit 350k
then you have enough to 3s weap and cub + guarantee vera and selena next patch
true
maybe it was on my part for not playing briget
After her release on cn yes
But I want collab so baddd
Jetavie is definitrly not gonna beat bridget
Idk
I had a guildies who got 1m with teddy
And who else on the team
ye, 3s collab with weaps and cubs + u can get 1 copy of vera and selena no weaps
The amount of dps bridget outputs is quite literally bugged thanks to how siege works
7k LMAO
Bruh-
IM SO COOKED
Unless another characyer has a bug its not gonna be close
DEEP-FRIED
just be sure to use yellow ticks first
Not really, there is an actual beta version
mine is literally 5k what you on about
my dumbass was HOPING I COULD GET 77.5K BC CUH
yeah i knew that but i heard they make adjustment on cn side too
is that correct or myth
broke bc gang
we only get around 35k total bc next patch bruh
Btw 1 million on a rank zone literally shouldnt be possible
I used the tickets- for nanami and Lilith. That's why my Lilith is at ss3
Nyun
Yeah it was crazy because iirc ishmael was heavily nerfed post release
Or it was lilith idk
Not really remembered
But he solo teddy with xxi and a rando qte bot
ishmael nerfed when she debut like a truck?
At least I have another dark character...
Definitely not 1mil, youre not hitting 1mil without TLC
More or less
but lilith i can feel it
Dark team is trash
even SSS
What's the best way to farm cogs
And
What's the best way to farm memory resonance materials?
i really need both but im kinda struggling
I usually just buy the cog packs from the battle shop y'know
it happens on new players you can get it by going on simulated mission
Can you guys help if my team needs anything
server?
How can I improve?
simulated battlefield for both
Let me put it this way, bridget dps is around teddy's
Bridget requires abusing a bug to output hilariously high DPS and hit 800k in guild
Teddy doesnt have any damage bug
Teddy will NEVER beat bridget
Theres no theme on that team
Brah
Idk but avg score with timestop is 1.6m
Meaning?
true since there is a bug
ion bru
Bruh what are you saying -
Thats the Srank zone
swap out cw for nanaknight or daren

lol daren imagine
Depends what are you fighting? Ppc, warzone or story
Let's say like overall
Do story. Now!
I don't have those two
But what i can't due to no serums
I'd say if you have nanaknight replace her with cw
Nanaknight does way more damage
check pin for huaxu so people can help you
YeH and i fund
I still gotta get her, let me send a Pic of all I have
Okay!
And a sss yata
im on chapter 19 cleared most of interlude
Bruh in still at chapter 10 cuz I'm lazy
while me stuck at chapter 14
see vibes
What does that mean-
Lmao same
Is that bad?
I'm level 90
I really liked chapter 10
i was watching a murder podcast while skipping story lmao
Desperate for BC?
I lowk play for story it's actually pretty good
Yeah... I thought of doing it so many times
i agree
Yeah . I love it. Can't wait for chapter 17!
i restarted chap 12-18 cause i was reading a bit and i thought i was missing out
The the quality went up suddenly at chapter end chapter 9- begin chapter 10
i think it was pretty good
Shukra uses 2 darwin 2 chen right?
Or 4 chen?
Main DPS Set
Main DPS
High Difficulty, Pain Cage, Warzone, Clash Reflection, Norman
Recommended for all ranks
General DPS set
This is the non-Harmony build. If you're planning to eventually get Harmony for Shukra, it is recommended to just get 2pc Chen Jiyuan instead of Darwin right away
4x Ji Bo'an
2x Darwin
Top Slot : 6x Any ATK+15 Variant
Bottom Slot: 6x Signature
None
Here ya go
Ye asking if 4 chen 4 ji boan
Or 2 darwin?
Bot doesn't say
I'd say it's good for now..until you get more characters
Is Qu Shukra a loveable character like is she your guys favorite
Jo boan
Yeah I'm trying to get watercable
Bro
Watercable??
Of course ji boan
Watanabe
I'm asking darwin or chen
DICTATORSHIP!
yeah he's quirky like that
Yeah that guy
Her shake voiceline is "can you shake up the world... or me?" with a smirk
Darwin
I'm more of a Karenina guy so
I'm more of a Roland type of guy
what are qu shukra bootlickers doing in my chat? go lick her boots in general or something


Damn what did she do
lick Karenina's hammer instead
I'm guessing she's that one guy from Germany?
Shukra got dem legs tho
I am totally not spreading any agenda whatsoever
Ish has better legs imo
she was born
I prefer lucia out of every female character in pgr
Also THE GREEN DUDE NEEDS JUSTICE HES SUCH A COLL CHARACTER (im really bad with names)
why am i constantly taking dmg from trailblazer and how can i deal with it
I'm interested now do tell meow I mean more
also Mamiko Noto is peak
Real asf
Both peak
But shukra more exposed leg so shukra better
Why yall talking about legz
At least it's not segz
How does effect work? Can you use effect teams to replace a normal team in wz or ppc? (e.g ultima slash replace physical team)
I'm disappointed that not many people like Karenina here
shukra fans trying to mention anything good about her other than her legs (they can't)
Men love thighs
But GREEN DUDE NEEDS JUSTICE he needs a stronger frame
I love thighs too icl
Kamui?
it's basically another element that a character can switch to mid-battle (assuming the character has it ofc)
YEAH HIM
He needs a stronger frame bro
His s rank frame wasn't enough💔
Oh Qu Shukra, you disgrace—
Trash to fight, and trash to play.
A boss so cheap, a unit so weak,
The game itself begs you to leave.
You steal my orbs, you kill my flow,
A bugged-out hack—who coded this hoe?
"Useless without SS and sig,"
A paywall joke, a scam so big.
I pulled for you - my darkest hour,
Like chasing salt instead of flour.
Witness her, be weak compared to Wanshi too.
Now watch her fail at all she do.
The Queen of Kowloong, lo and behold, but all I see,
is a stupid baboon.
They hyped you up, then dropped this mess,
A walking scam in an S-rank dress.
No damage without your signature,
even the kids think that you are immature.
6 months into the game ,
got smoked by your tank in fame.
Oh "Qu Shitra", you fail both sides,
As boss, as a character—you disappoint.
So vault your ass, take your delete,
And pray Kuro never makes repeats!
You’re not a waifu—you're a joke,
A lazy dev's half-finished stroke.
Delete your banner, burn the code,
You’re dead weight on a dying mode.
Got shot by some random fodder,
spatial awareness like no other.
the only good thing you have is your legs, but even then,
that's a half-assed defense.
Effects have their zones in WZ which will specifically need those, not the normal elements
What effect btw?
Lilith plasma?
U only use that's in plasma wz
Damn
SOLONNN GIVE ROLAND, LAMIA, KAMUI AND CHROME A NEW FRAME AND MY LIFE IS YOURS!!!!!
U can't even play plasma without pyroath btw
if y'all got dissuaded by that guy, pls like Karenina instead 
YEAH BRO THEY NEED THIS DESPERATELY, I REALLY LIKE KAMUI AS A CHARACTER
Shukra lives rent free in bro's head
Karenina is top tier guys trust me
So basically u still prioritize building standard team instead of worrying about teams with effects
This guy. He's peak.
she is a monarch and leeching is the only thing they know how to do
Karenina Cappuchina
Karenina only likable in idol dress
Other dresses mid
whats element is he gonna be though? maybe dark tank?
anyone? 😰😰
that's why i propose we do a romanov 2.0 with shukra
yeah, cuz the effect-centered teams already build themselves just by pulling the S Ranks like usual
Orr he could switch between cuiu or however he's called as his signature
nuh uh she's a top tier girl
camu
Yeah him
ijust came back wtf is this
Guys I'm starting to think this guy probably hates Qu
Karenina when she tsuntsuns on my dere 😩
He 100% gotta be tank tho
Nah too mechanical
Jointed legs
No booba
Waifu score not enough
KAMUI NEEDS A POWERUP
once ice amp is announces she is out of the team
Okay thanks 
why would the booba be important
when is the announcement for the next character again?

flat = you can be closer to her heart
Lamia?
based and true
Best design till now is pyroath
At least in global
Petanko
yeah might be like wata, deal lots of damage then give shield

hell yes brother
nah medium is premium
Yes that would be perfect, but what would his signature be?
Like maybe holding the signature you can switch to camu guy
ha ↘️ ha ↗️ ha ↘️ ha ↗️ ha ↘️ ha ↗️ ha ↘️ ha ↗️
as long as the booba fits the figure I'm fine with it
Don't see kamui playable anytime soon lol
As if males gonna sell
Even if kamui comes he's gonna be free in filler patch
altho I personally prefer smaller booba
This is not gameplay help anymore😭
I really want watercable
ahem what do you need help with 
Every time i see an artist buff frieren i rip off one fingernail
ahem cough cough ahem ahem cough ahem cough
nah uh
all these talk and i just need oiled up coating
For who
Oiled up gabriel skin when
the unc and the boba
When you said grabriel i though of ultrakill
I'm offended by the boba part
where to get these now?
Does Selena Pianissimo's SS3 give you better returns than Ishmael's SS3?
yes
event farming stage
yea
stimulation shop exchange
Especially when Pianissimo objectively has the better teams atm
does auto clearing Norman give any drawbacks
like doing the simulation?
Fr
Out of Parhelion and Selena which one should I SS3(I'm guessing Selena?)
"Too mechanical" rosetta would jumpscare you
guys i can buy a coating tommorow should i buy wanshi drip or wata drip
Wanshi
no you buy those with the currency from said stage
WHAT is that pfp
both Phys and Glacial are better than Void in terms of scoring potential
how do i do the stronghold thing?
Watercable
Lmao as if anybody simps Rosetta
SS3 selena on dmc patch
void shield be like
oh lol, i forgot to scroll lmao
does auto clearing Norman give any drawbacks
There are rosetta simps
no
If nanami didnt exist i would probably be one
that mechanic singlehandedly stopped Void from being Top 1 LMAO
Ss3 most worth is piano>pyroath>hanying
No
ok ty
arent pyroath the top here
now imagine umbra with heal block
I got Hanying and Pyro as SS3 already
Selena beats her i think but Pyro ss3 broken as well
I want pyroath to atleast ss🥲
not really, SS3 doesn't do much with Fire then for Ion it's just one extra Ult
beats in what context? in bed?
No bruh

Hell yeah
it's still really good for Ion tho
Just click on the challenge section in the battle menu and the first or second challenge category option should have it
icic
Please. Anyone. Tell me. Is there any hope for new kamui frame
unlikely
SS3 Pianissimo literally doubles your Flower Ult dmg
these ones right?
bury that expectation, youre playing waifu robot game
which is very OP
Then you use at least 1 or maybe 2 strong characters for each team and fill the other slot with a random unleveled character
One extra ult every rot massive tho
It's not just one xd
yessir
really?
WE (YES WE) need new s rank kamui frame
Stardust Echoes
When Temperament is at 60, Concerto Orbs grant twice the amount of Variation Points. Every 1 Quaver consumed increases the Base DMG of the next Fullbloom Tuning by 20%, up to 100%. After casting Signature - Howling Tempest/Signature - Forlorn Flower's Final Rest, Base DMG of QTE increases by 500% for the rest of the battle.
Upon entering the battlefield, immediately gains 1 Quaver, 12 Signature Energy, and 1 Signal Orb. Increase the maximum amount of Quavers to 5. After an orb skill, the next Basic Attack - Bladed Resonance will consume up to 6 Signal Orbs and convert them into Quavers. When Selena has 4/5 Quavers, DMG Amplification for Basic Attack - Bladed Resonance increases to 300%/600%. Selena's Extra DMG Bonus increases by 100% during Lingering Echo state.
bet thanks
from what I've read yeah
Yes
no i ion care with camu, i want noctis new frame
he got me acting unwise 
Me when I run ion regularly instead of using her like a normal fire dps because I don't have a tank or amplifier 
iirc, it mainly buffs core
Not camu but KAMUI
still noctis
Also makes her QTE deals 5x more dmg
he's such a cool character and it's sad that they left him
I see
that's another thing too
Don't think that's the case 
Kuro wording sucks
CN really doesn't like happy-go-lucky males I think
iam waiting for some certain games of demographic of me
Kamui's newest frame is Bastion 🥀
well i mean its waifu gacha
Classical Romanticism - Fullbloom Tuning
Trigger: Transcendence + 60 Temperament + Hold Dodge
When Selena is Transcendence, ping Concerto Orbs to gain Temperament, accumulating up to 60 points. Casting this skill consumes 60 Temperament to summon phantoms to attack, dealing Physical DMG and granting Variation Points and Signature Energy.
- Deals 4000.0% Physical DMG.
- While Ice Spikes persist, deals 10000.0% Glaciation DMG instead.
- Selena is invincible but unable to cast Signature Move. After casting, gains 30 Variation Points and 60 Signature Energy.
TEN THOUSAND PERCENT
LMAO that glacio
WHAT IS THAT MULTIPLIER
Balanced
They lowk need to buf liv:lux, make her deal the most damage out the entire game (rare weapon) give her a custom CUB and make it when you get her she's automatically SS3 rank
If I pull ss3 piano i won't have funds for dmc
HELLO??????
tbf it kinda is, she's limited to 1 Ult per swap in Glacial
so it's more like she needs that multiplier
yea, it was just funny to see 10000% raw multiplier

Unless y'all need Yata to do more dps on glacio than Selena
Does Selena need her sig when she drops
It's pretty okay
if selena can spam that flower ult, she can easily go off-element in IB
Anyways I'm gonna go ahead and do story 12 (first episode) now
funny enough, the one that does 2 Ult rots is Alisa which is probably the weakest link of the team 
So much numbers but Pyro plasma team still better than piano glaciation team
Sadge reality for selena fans
I've been taking my time with the story

So like BYE
I need to build my Alisa
thank alisa
but realistically you'll have higher invest in Glacial than Ion tho
I just remembered I don't have Alisa's weapon
unhinged
so most people would actually have Glacial as their best team
Bricked
Delete game
nah, lilith is a voucher unit too
tbf i just need selena then i have second affix team frfr
no SSS Nanaknight tho 🥀
beg solon
fr
Huh?
funny enough, i came back to zzz recently because i saw Yuxian
Sss wanshi sss alisa
Vs sss Lilith ss3 nanami?
Plasma still wins
Uhh idk bout that, Lilith is free(I got her SS3 in the first 10 pulls on the second banner lmao) and SS3 Pyro is more than good enough to overtake glacio team afaik
SS Nanaknight tho 🥀
No early(I stopped at 59 pity)
Who are u lying to
Nyet I need Oblivion to complete void
seeing wanshi and affix in 1 setence reminds me that i saw someone asking why their wanshi deal so little and turned out they hold dodge to initiate core passive stance
still not realistic regardless
Then I also gotta prepare for Geiravoir after Selena
you're comparing sss lilith to an old gen amp?
ofc glacio will be weaker
if alisa is replaced by a new gen amp that is not free, it will be scuff still
well tell them to replace alisa
dupes on limited characters are almost never realistic, even with that Thunderbolt Manual laying around
It's funny cause like the second we get another phys amp, Alisa's sig memory set basically just gets moved to the other amp cause of the massive crit boost
Balter kinda mid tho 🥀
and alisa is free, so players that join after the new phy amp will still need alisa
I accidentally keep triggering ultimaslash
Nah
Tank shred too important
I mean 2.333 glacio still gonna beat 2.32.33 plasma regardless
don't underestimate the swap cd reduction is all I can say
Tank is Hanying ionno what you talking bout
Hanying+2amp?
this shi can singlehandedly carry your scores to high heavens
Isn't Hanying the tank(who does more than Balter atp)
Whats current best dark team?
inherentely if they make a new phy amp with no guaranteed crit for the team they will be useless frfr
I'm talking after piano bro
Lamia Scire Lilith (Lilith Main DPS)
Lamia, Lilith, Scire(when is Scire getting replaced bro she old asl)
So no more sss capri?
yes no more of that garbage unit
Bet
tank supremacy, outdpsing and carrying your ass to high score
Ah
Physical atm is worst score among all wz
I meant like Hanying and Piano are there but
piano aint even here yet
Alisa's memory set is too good to pass up on
Regardless of who the new amp unless they got guaranteed crit on their kit
And lees done for for fire now?
if they dont have this it will be the worst unit ever came out in recent time because
phy without crit is just aint it chief
yep completely benched
i mean you can use him on babe
since babel need more team/unit
N current void team?
Ish obli n ?
Oblivion Ishmael Lilith
Ishmael, Oblivion, strongest elemental unit
Ayla, noooooo
Luna ishmael highest invest amp
Luna, Ishfish, amp(GEIRAVOR when she gets released)
Use amp with highest invest lol
If same invest kaleido best
Lilith if SS-SS3
Kaleido still best eins holder
sht buffs compared to Lilith tho
I kinda wanna SS3 Ishmael(I'm at 59 pity)
true true
dont
not worth
next patch you have 2 S to get
Will try later
Ik that's why I'm sitting this one out
Base Rank Lilith has the same buffs as SSS Kaleido it's not a fair competition 
so i should be good to go now?
I can get vera on d1
you have atleast 3 modern dps so youre good to go
Me neither if I go for SS3 Piano
I prob wont be able to get vera on day 1
depends on my luck
Piano and Vera are tgt no?
ill ss3 piano with blue selector lel
But what about dmc 
ye x3 patch with jetavie
got lucky with the free feral n mermaid 
SS3 Vergil and we chill

I'm a f2p gotta compromise in one way or another
the feesh pratically powerrcreeped by lillith soo
Sss min

just skip DMC
Nyet.
Why Lilick and ish still have no pfp
that is true
Well I wonder how Vergil fares against Piano
well my current dark team was laurel scire n capri before the free mermaid lol
physical?
in phy? sht as hell
😭
Ye
After DMC they released a TS and ignition dps

Vergil only usable in trueslash lol
I'd riot if DMC goes beyond Year 1
Sadge
that would be actually scummy lmao
according to empress, ss piano = sss vergil
Vergil actually makes trueslash playable btw
but lets go
so whos next on the chopping block?

Balter Trueslash is just 🥀 🥀
w, this is so player friendly
I hope daren
plsss powercreep them faster than Starfarer
I'm only pulling 1 vergil for weeks where there is monzano in the rot as well
otherwise I'm off-elementing that TS boss
same
Sadge fr
gonna use Glacial on Power PPC
when alisa on chop block
cuz fck Collab meta
I used ion on Lamia boss lmao
Lilith makes ion actually really playable
she just got leaped she'll still live a pretty long time
ahhh
yes because i got lucky with her gacha coating, so i got sadge too :((
I mean it's a neutral boss ofc it works
U can play ion with daren fine xd
Score difference not even big
lol no
Just get lucky with orbs
Why do u keep lying
exactly
Daren rot way faster than lilith
It's just that ion is the most completed team I have after ice and phys and/or Lightning
no? it can be fast wym
whens next patch?
Lilith rot min 5 sec if u don't ult
Daren 3 sec
Ion pre lilith cap score is 10.5m, ion post lilith cap score is 18.5 so idk where do u get these ideas
26
in about 3 weeks or so
Why u compare max invest scores lol
Of course lilith would win
Daren got no buffs
you think ill be safe to pull for feral wep n cub?
Yeah and u think low invest not gonna get affected too ?
Who's Daren
nah just save it for next patch
Scire
ok
man I love her
Try any ss run it's barely 200k difference
I don't even have her
never got a dupe since I started playing
Mine was Hanying, I got SS3 in under 30 pulls
i think my first dupe n only was obliv cub LMAO
how can i know what energy field is good for what team in Norman's gamemode?
damn that's sick
Ss3 wata in 10 pull 
Also Pyro but SS3 took like 67 pulls
now go SSS+ him
Total
y'all are so lucky wtf
Again who are u lying to
Me when Ishmael weap 2x in a row in one 10 pull
free reso
And now I'm sitting out on her banner at 59 pity
I can pull up nuke's channel to show his ss0 3.85m ion score with daren vs current 5.8m ion score with lilith
(it eventually paid off tho)
needed 83 for my last🥀 💔
I got the items for reso(like 3 of em)
nice
https://youtu.be/lF8ztk_bJDw?si=L1GXDjh23f3NLkNj
https://youtu.be/jb1mWI805II?si=J0NsToVnv13DOmvo
Both is mobs zone so there is no excuse
if curious ask me im not editing the video troublesome also I won't go writing detailed roations by myself it won't be finished anytime soon or else
#punishinggrayravenglobal #pgr #SS0lucia #pgrwarzone #pgrgameplay #nanamiStartrail #daren #shappersripples #plasmabeam #ion
#pgr_cn
#punishinggrayravenglobal #ion #plasma #lucia #pyrorath #nanami #startrail #lilith #daemonissa #pgrwarzone #pgr_cn #pgrgameplay
So I'm wondering if I should scrap it instead and get a new weapon from the recycle shop
wtf I only have 5.2m with higher invest I have skill issue
hello,
how can i know what energy field is good for what team in Norman's gamemode?
wtfffffffff
If u only get 200K diff then it's skill issue on ur part tbh
Not gonna bother with r3 Ishmael weapon
I gotta watch this damn
why
Got lucky 2 times with chars that’s it I guess
Got Rosetta early from standard but like it’s Rosetta she was about to die that time 
DLT and axial good enough
No point in r3-ing her weap
I'd reckon SS3 would give me a far bigger boost than r3 weap
theres no real rule for energy fields
you just pick whatever sounds good
EXCEPT for Turbulence. NEVER pick turbulence
Indeed
if I have SS3 Pyroath should I follow this vid still? Or do I do something different
Until a rank alpha
Ready for Vera and Selena 

is it worth getting cog packs here?
best way to get cogs yes
if you need them yes
got it thanks
pretty much anything is worth getting here (as long as you need them atm)
WHADDAHELLLLL
except single cogs
the single cogs are barely less value than the packs it doesn't even matter
Seems like you have a rough day today non stop arguing against bs takes
I was at work you were arguing against Nana ass shred or something I came back and you were discussing Daren and Lilith 
No I just like arguing with people on the internet


do all meta units as of now requires all to be hyperturned? like for example Lilith?
for their main sets yes
alright
This character does not exist. Please try again.
You may be searching for a character with multiple frames as well.
Main Support Set
Main Support
High Difficulty, Pain Cage, Warzone, Clash Reflection, Norman
Recommended for all ranks
Physical Support set
4x Signa
2x Da Vinci
Top Slot : 6x Any ATK+15 Variant
Bottom Slot: 6x Class Skill
None
seens like I'm stuck
Luna oblivions charged attack how do increase the dmg of that specific move?
What 6star should i go for, alyssa echo or nanami chargue blade?
i thought it was basic attack but i saw no difference
How do you use someone else’s support character in Norman?
Does anyone know how many event tickets you can earn in the next patch?
you just go to the char selection screen and there is a tab called "support" there
people from your guild and friendlist are there
should i build my alisa echo
Is that a lot? or a normal amount? for rewards i mean
i have 32k bc. i haven’t gotten ishmael since i decided i’ll just get her on the standard banner selector. should i just save my bcs or get 1-2 of any of these sigs?
if yes, which character/s?
It's not a lot considering next patch is 3x
should i?
Yes
yes
THANK YOU OMG IM BLIND
Get Pyroath's and Hanying's sigs
dmc patch itself is sad reality
Thank you!
alright, the others aren’t as important / gamebreaking as these two?
thats basically internet atp
if i didnt leave on shapers riples update maybe i could have had the chance to SSS vergil and dante
Yes, except oblivion
the 34k bc is purely from events?
Does Kaleido uses 4dv 2eins or 4dv 2guin?
shes gonna be stuck with a 3 star bow though
Total
oh ok
hey don't ask me someone sent that guide here so I saved it for myself, just thought it would be useful to the person who asked the question
welcome
thanks tho
Still build her
anyone know how much pull currency dmc collab itself will give?
What element and class is jetavie?
Does Kaleido uses 4dv 2eins or 4dv 2guin?
i mean. don't you think nanami also needs the sig?
i have a question whats the total bc you can get from side stories, interlude
literally on the pic
wait im blind
im literally blind lmao
Nanami's sig is a bunch of dmg multipliers
yeah i noticed hers was a big upgrade w her sig 
btw, what about the sigs of next patch’s selena & vera? also op?
user is suspected to have a mono braincell
What element and class is jetavie? 
Guys, Does Kaleido uses 4dv 2eins or 4dv 2guin?
Third time the charm🏳️
Latter
Aight thx
Everyone needs sig nowadays, so probably
does someone have a picture on how many someone can get in clearing the entirety of story and side stories
true she doesn't need it to function but she doesn't give much dmg without it
a-rank dark burn dps
Idk, check the pins
So attacker dark?
is the battle pass cost here like combined (10$ total) or separate 30+68 cards
Dark attacker with ignition affix
save pity for upcoming vera?
since my team is fire and I only need 1 left
The insider info was 33% correct then
this maybe?
You'll need more than 1 team
yea but one of my team has 1 slot left
you do not save pity in this game. you go for everyone
you need the new selena for phys
no clearly vergil solos fr no cap trust
oh wait I meant her weapon
my.pity is on
Should I get ishmael weap if I have the 5* star one?
dark attacker a rank
Wb Lucid ?
ish without her sig is crippled
hell yes
guys which do i choose for lilith cub
ikr had a hard time myself
Oh well
the 30 path and the 68 path are seperate
if you want both, you have to buy both
HELLO can someone help me please
I Want to make a build around Luna Oblivions charged moves so the hold mouse 1 stuff
How would i go about optimizing the damage of the moves to be very good is that possible?
I just hope I win the 80/20 🥀
it's a double win u can use reso on weapon for main dps and also amplifier
4 liston 4 chen jiyuan with sig
4 liston 2 ein without sig
always the bottom two
Gotcha. Thx G
Man I can't make up my mind. Is it better to go for selena or vergil?
selena
How do you apply a tank debuff to an enemy, and who should equip Da Vinci - the tank or the support?
You can have both
any attack at all
QTEs included
Depends on the team, usually the amp is the dv holder
i went from 2.3 mil to 3.1 mil after sig
nihil wz
What's the reason tho? Is it because of the true slash vergil has.
but why
building around that move is suboptimal
ok thanks
Damnn
selena is used in two teams
vergil is used in one team
If you're not in hero war zone or ultimate ppc, Vergil will be USELESS for you
Nah this is not PAYDAY 2 
does new selena get crippled if she doesnt have her sig
she's so crippled i had a hard time getting orbs in the first place
Like most characters
Oml
Well back in the grinding mines
why r there 2 of the same banners with the other one having more pity I think
same goes for nanaknight, her gameplay didn't change but her damage did by ALOT
why do some youtube rotation I see on YouTube swap immediately without attacking? Shouldn't you apply the tank debuff first before switching to your main DPS?
I ...... I can do it.... If i sell my soul.... I can gather 77.5k bc for SSS vergil and dante
imma kms every team needs 3 sig
Don't touch fate
does the 100 attack from sss cubs do much I've seen the legend whales have it or is it like 0.X% better points
Whos nanaknight?
cw also the bottom two?
cause the QTEs trigger the debuff aswell
and you get that pretty much instantly when you do rotations
is it possible to catch up with the current pass until its end from now? currently at lvl 4
That's the starter character, their role is to trigger a swap-in animation
Usually the starter is the same as the dv holder
Swap-ins count as a 3 ping
luna sig imp becoz without it she won't get orbs
nanami starrail
yes
I Want to anyway i appreciate your concern but i do not need an opinion of my sense of fun
I just need information
If you can give i would be very appreciative
Its almost if not always those two fir any cup
any use for a dupe sig? 
reso
Resonance fodder
for sig pet:
always 4th and 5th one if your pet is only S.
4th one is specific dmg type and 5th one is character passive.
💀
U can give It to me
slide
i calculated it and im still cooked
just swipe
shouldn’t have 10 pulled it could have been another char’s sig 
i dont have money
i dont get the hype around this collab
You don't need sss vergil and dante
no if u did singles it would have been different most likely
its a free weapon resonance
They just look fun as hell to play
Game is inspired by DMC, it's just a really cool collab all around
4x Cleopatra
2x darwin i guess?
resos are ATK +15 top slot
core passive bottom slot
which is more relevant physical or nihil team cause i can only really afford 2 sigs next patch
Ty vm
btw, dlt is the reso for hanying right
Physical
You been my guiding star in this community
❤️
hanying and selena then
Yep
But don't tell me you are skipping ishmael
which?

i got her but no sig
after dmc i guess
Wheel drift
That's fine for now 
true but as a person who doesn't care about thst game since I didn't play it during my childhood i have no emotional connection, and neither do I care about what this game was inspired from.
im tired of my friend constantly talking about dante and vergil istg, i get it that they are cool but
my views are very different
fair
i like cw tho, not in games of damage or anything, but she was the first gyal who got me into the game
also that her moveset is very good
i have calculated again i can do it but in the process im guranteed to get burnout in the process so im not gonna SSS vergil and dante
i bricked my account for her skin but that's all
i have a question, do qte bot characters need investments on sig or reso?
Yes
Just ignore it then 
Like let your friend be hyped
And you can do whatever you like doing
isnt their whole purpose just pinging them when qte is available? whats the sig for?
And if the amp isn't holding Da Vinci, it's always better to start with the tank right?
Nah, there is always a dv holder and they should be starter too since their swap cooldown is irrelevant
i need a third team lolz, for now its:
- startrail, feral, crimson weave
- ishmael, daemonisa, oblivion
- ????
Some resos give team buffs, also harmony can be only applied on 6* weapons
im trying but that's all he talks about
he didn't join vc for a week coz he forgot to join as he was busy playing Collab in cn version
this is Ferals sig
increases the buffs she gives out even more
He is hyped, just accept that 
In fact many people solely join to ask if they can get enough for vergil and dante
We up
timi
when it says enters the battle, it also applies to being qte pinged?
Sup
No
but it wont mess up rotations if my qte bots dont have sig and all?
nno, just swapping em in
i mean it doesnt matter, you wont put feral onfield. the only thing that has value here is the 20% buff
i know but I'd rather not want him shoving it up my a$$ everytime xd
ikr
i see
not at all. qte bot sigs are good, but WAY lower priority than others
Imma shove smth else up ur ass
Then talk to him or something, it's your friend 
male or female
for this week i haven't played it yet

Does that matter
im ventin that's all
alright guess i echo can run her 3star bow then lmao
Yes
What does The orb color levels Do in the resonances? like do they increase the dmg of orb attacks or something else?

