#📨・meta-help
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[PGR] Punishing : Gray Raven
Hero Warzone 3/3/3 Ionization(Plasma Beam) Team 1063w
51 waves holy sht
Honeylao 
HONEY
ion is just super strong
Ya ion busted rn
that + lucia hold ult getting max dmg
so if nanami and dante of the same rank, so ignition of dante is deal more damage than nanami, right 
pretty solid
If Pyroath is SS and we're talking about fire then yes otherwise I'm not so sure since SS3 significantly improves her ROT
Sss also significantly improves ion rot
It doesn't outside of ion
Xd
U too get ur first ion run on fire
I tho
Which
Ion is irrelevant to this conversation
Dante can perform combo. Pyroath cant
Dante better.
Case solved.
SS Pyroath is equal to or greater than SSS Dante
Dante ofc deals more damage as DPS but holy damn Nanaknight's damage is good
For the last time, #💬・pgr-general
In terms of fire, ss3 and sss gives insane dmg boost
You know what would be even BETTER
Playing devil may cry five :R
Ok so vergil worth?
This is just false lol
im not talking in ur cringe ass convo 
And
I'm not trying to include you?
You aren't playing DMC
You playing PGR
PGR normally wants effective rotation
DMC wants style
So Pyroath better in this case
Case solved
SS Pyroath ROT gets beaten by Dante's SSS improvements
Relax bro. Some playful comments wouldn't hurt.
Wait fr?
SSS Dante gets pretty chunky damage ups
Dude give IN already
dog is obviously rage baiting
but be more expensive by a decent bit
everyone's falling for it
again, where is the number?
This is not the place for casual joke banter
He and azriel gave been in constant back and forth cause he keeps bringing up info with 0 sauce
From what I know, dante cant win pyroath no matter how much rank difference
sucks to be stupid
sad, but getting dante to ss is big problem, i must both dante and virgil, but rank S is unable to competive withn pgr char (non-dmc) - even they have huge damage on effect at high rank, it is too much resource to invest 
Dmc is for affix
I really should just doc this stuff at this point lol
Goodbye
I did it earlier tho
Who died
Still ass cause dmc scores either tying or breaking all records 
i just wanna see the proof of said claims
Bro still here
why are ya'll fighting
It's just another 10.5k
Until we get solid numbers, everything anyone says is a lie 
Its just f2p dmc yap
I swear someone snuck some galaxy gas in here this is way more hectic than it usually is
Galaxy Gas with Copium
literally pointless man
We're not I just don't have the numbers on hand lol

why you still here 
Then why make such claims
Anyone have Pyroath's lv 18 damage %?
Like I said, just keep this to urself
Check in #📨・bot-info
whats even the point of ts man? 💔
For u to be bringing it up every time there is pyro and Dante conversation it's gonna mislead more people
nah im just sick of ppl claiming
A > B then give no proofs or whatsoever. at least back up ur own word like we always do.
Ts is the new ion
Nah
Ion still more damage i think
Wait fr?
Idk
actually hol up I'm gonna check my own posts pretty sure I said it earlier
Empress said otherwise
Wasn't it
Ts duo elite>ion duo elite but ion single boss still remains untouched
wtf is ion???
Plasma
oh
Plasma
Beam
addiction
Well 16.5m on duo mob
That means till be 18m+ on boss
whats ts then?

Trueslash
trash
Isn't that about the same as ion
That is Ultima Slash
Actually max TS duo mob score actually 1774w according to her
Oh
why they don't use plasma, it if cool word, well ion is .. 
im learning pgr slang!!!!
Ewewewewewwww
Why's it so huge
EEEEEEEEEW
Ultima Slash more like Ultimate trash 
I know it's very hard to look at
2 COLLAB UNITS KILLING META
Welcome 
Trash slash 

sometime, i don't understand everyone here are talking about ???? 
And umbra is just dead in the water by default
Cause it's damn executor is crimson weave
i has question whats this 1000w for? is it waves?
That exists?
Well not yet
This is why I get so annoyed when normies defend or glaze DMC without knowing the slightest implications it has for the state of the game

Score
Anyways look at this accused title
i see i see thanks
1000w means 10000000
same
10m
woah
It's basically
1000
W is a short for 10,000
Like
How m is short for million
So if I have 234w
That's 2,340,000

thats a lot of numbers
w means 10k
honestly I was expecting it to be 8 million lol
1000w is same as 10m
w chat
Warhammer W
234w is 234 watt 
What I don't understand is why not just say 10m

Wow gph finally helpign 
whats the benefits of having higher number than everyone else other than bragging rights?
Nothing really
W is how they use it in CN and Korea
Bragging rights is the name of the game
thats crazy
Ahhhhhhh okay that makes dense
fair enough.
Not taking the Ls with this
No idea i just saw other laos doin that and following them
Well there's benefit in paincage but in warzone nearly nothing
Bragging rights 
So real
whats the benefit in paincage?
More skulls = faster ss0
More skulls 
get skulls
thanks boss
Nahh thank you for bringing the help into gameplay help again
After a certain point it doesn't matter in ppc since you'll start consistently getting higher scores with more built teams
I'm at the point I can always reach intensive now
im just asking questions but okay 👍
Which then it turns into bragging points
Yeah no intensive is just bragging
anyways 3.0m ice is low I know but how low
22.32 102 111
how much more rewards does it give
Other than bragging rights it's also mostly to see how far can u push urself to get higher score with certain investment
No reso for wanshi kinda stings
Exactlyyyyy
like 12 skulls and that's it lol
I don't even do it to brag I just enjoy seeing a bigger number
More skulls, which in my case I already have too many i want to exchange them to bc
i has a question why do guides put 2 piece at slot 1 and 3 then 4 piece at 2 4 5 6 ?
I'd be number 1 or dead last and mald all the same
dopamine
Min maxing sake
intensive basically works the same way old ppc function score wise
Not the most important thing ever but like if it'll give you a 1% benefit why not
Where your rewards are based around competition
so it doesnt really matter what position i put memories in then?
Wait you've got it inverted
But there's barely any noticable increase with the rewards on rank
Not rly nah
But again
Why not yknow
it doesn't matter beyond top/bottom just pick your favorite aesthetic and stick with it for every character on your account 
For the sake of mald it does matter
But almost no diff yeah
oh damn im kinda restarded my bad
So I don't mald there generally
The memory placement will depend on the atual memories you are using
Dw we all are
warzone malding is where it's at
kek minmaxing memory placement only gets u like +6 atk right?
You can use the /minmax command in #📨・bot-info to check which memories should go in what row
thx for answering guys
For Playing this game after all this nonsense sync shit...yeah
Stylish mode malding>>wz malding>>guild battle malding>>>>>>>>ppc malding
Sigh abusive relationship
Wym smh
ppc malding on top 
wz mald >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
That's a whole 6 more atk wdym
is qu shukra gonna be replaced soon?
I will not be ever malding guild battle when a run is like 8 minutes straight of ult animations
Eeeehhhhhhhhhhhhhhh
She might but we have no way to know for sure as there is no current replacemrnt for her in CN
potentially a +9 damage atk difference
Lamia and alpha must be replaced first
And
Ayla and 21 and Karen must be replaced first too
First up is karenina tho I want her dead so bad
targeting messes up my scores so much in siege
So she got time but investing rn is eeeehhhhhh
Best to look for cheap ways to bag her
okay thx
Watch them replace Epitaph or smth 
Are tanks just sub dps
i got her and i dont know how i forgor how i got her
No they can be main dps
They are just dps
more like hypercarries
Ignorance is bliss
Tanks are whatever the hell they need to be
Everyone in this game is dps
real
Sub dps
Dead weight
Main dps
Whatever their team does they follow
is that why fire is so strong?
what characters are worth ss3'ing other than pyroath?
New Selena
Fire is so strong cause kuro won't let it go more than 6 months without buffing it
fr tho where is my dark love
damn
Both Epitaph and Geiravorhave incredible damage despite being subdps
- Lucia: Pyroath
- Selena: Pianissimo
- Ishmael: Parhelion
- Nanami: Startrail
- Hanying: Solacetune
- Vera: Geivaror
on god wata has been my main dps for awhile
Phys is so trash rn but selena will carry their ass starting this friday
Geiravor in particular is quite extraordinary considering that she doesn't need signature memory
Personally gonna SS3 Solacetune if only for Vergil
new patch in fri?!?!?
Kr server
For KR servers, not Global
thx
In general I just like SS3ing the tanks first
shes not particularly that impressive at ss0 to compensate but yes not needing sig mem at all is huge

actually no thats fine im still saving up for dmc characters
Korea already on Selena patch damn
About that
What's recommended rank to be used as a dps?
My bc doomed
Feels like just a month ago where we were having constant 4 hour long arguments about synch
actually I'm just gonna look it up
what about it dont tell me its gonna come earlier than august
Im not sure if ill be able to get both dmc up to sss
she is always subdps to pyro, but if you want her to do real good dmg, sss
No it's still august
But just that you shouldnt skip anyone for them
I already do
Hanying no longer needs ss3 for ts
Fr?
vera dmg really improves when youre able to do 2 rota
i.... dont have a choice man even if its gonna brick my account I HAVE TO GET THEM BOTH 
I'm aware but it still would buff the team right?
that + ss3 and sss dmg buffs
No Vergil can generate his own stacks kinda fine, SS3 is more of a QoL for herself
No sig vera will still rot right 
lol
idk
Yes she don't
That's kind of stacked actually
4davinci 2guinevere geiravor RAHHHHHH
at that point id do lucia wata duo
FR THATS MA JAM
But surely vera would still outdmg wata right 
Oh so... skippable unit 
vera and selena looks so good but man i need to skip both if i want to SSS both of em
How is her non-SSS damage actually
Is it kinda just meh, or is it straight up crippled?
my bet is on no
Isn't the main point of stacking for Vergil is to allow him to use JCE with higher stacks
Fyi
her ult2 is main dmg source and sig double base dmg
Selena vera version will give you about 70000 bc
Should I just SS3 Startrail then? 
Fk
Geiravor? I heard it's not really impressive at all
disappointing, but i wouldnt say crippled
IM GONNA SSS+ THEM BOTHH RAAAAHHHH
I can't pull for qte bot unit but I also can't afford sig
Oof
U need Vera for Dante btw 
im cooked
Hmm icic
I was originally thinking of getting vera up to sss3
I thought it was like 34k
Tbf
If I don't see her being that insanely important for now
I'll skip her and get from Basic banner
Thanks for saying this though boss i might just grind the older events thingy to pull for vera
But dmc ruined it
......
Mmmmmmm
Wait let me recheck
Mmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmm
vera is definitely not insanely important but i also wouldnt skip her
Need to save for CN half anni patch
In any case DMC is limited everything else isn't so my pulls are dedicated towards DMC rn
Yeah ik
gardevoir is darkflow right? so wouldnt the two affixes clash??
Mmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmm
Still performing pretty well despite that tho
I mean I got the taste of skipping a unit already
we have any info about new patch after dmc collab patch? 
Honestly I don't think I need ss3 ish anymore
Hmmmm interesting
And
Ss3 pyro not anymore either
Oh btw does Vera stay in ult mode if u exit midway?
Oh my bad
Mmmmmmmmm
if selena patch give 70k im gonna pull for vera if not im gonna skip 
All we know is that it's CN Half Anni patch and Half Anni is always S rank
unsure, dont know why youd want to
Mmmmmmmmmmm
Void zaza
No cuz only one affix could be active in a same run
Which u could select
To get vera sig and vera without going bankrupt
Its gonn be 40000 bc for f2p
thanks thanks
Mmmmmmmmmmmmm
Erza u might join you and skip vera
maybe new dorm s rank to go along with the new dorm system? 
4000!?!? 
no, only one, becuase she is one fire amp 
one sec
50000 for monthly
What are My calculations again
34k
IM SO COOKED
guys i would just like to report what i've cooked to you all real quick
I think
what's the 70k then?
Bc from this patch bags Selena and weap day one
15 from the 40k next patch for vera
10k of the remaining 25 towards dmc
Leaving
....
15k...
don't tag or report me, please 
Wait that sounds horrible wrong
i got 400k higher score with cw 1 rot into qte bot zaza compared to with luna lilith
Why
regarding nanami solo
What's this calc
Uhhhhh
qte nuke op
Either way I'm 🐳 so I 🧱 
400k on wz?
her qte is strong enough to outweigh lilith being way better buffs
what in the....
she does not
ye 4.8m with luna+sss lilith, vs 5.2m with sss cw+ss0 ish
We getting like
22k bc this patch
Roughly enough for Selena and weapon
Then next patch around 40k maybe
Whereas the calculations you saw
both are nanami solo
Wait sss cw and you didn't rot?
send me all your bc, i means including your r&d tickets 
i'm testing many things
I'm gonna retry today again
Nana solo works even with sss cw 
Selena after that then vera patch right?
actually regular swap with feral is worse, but
They're the same patch
does your ish mem set have Samantha and guin?
my current highest score is a really weird zaza swap rot with lilith
whale, fu- you, sh- you, dam- you 
@hasty sphinx where'd you see f2p 40k from
yes
im cooked
4.3m was the highest I got last time, whatcha do differently for the increase?
maybe you'd have more vouchers if you didn't waste them on memory usbs
If 40k then vera sig might be affordable while I also get to bag dmc without going broke for half anni
Luna Lilith

If anything below 40k I'm cooked
How much you got rn
Man
Like including tickets and pity
whats half anni gonna be?
No one knows
Eehhh no clue
I just bag bc and collect tickets
But I didn't spend any bc of this patch on ish
Check and tell
So theoretically I should have the full amount of bc
Cause I spent bc from last patch on her
Ez
You got nana sig didn't you
Yea
But I had like 20k BC leftover after Nana sig
Then the entire patch
Had around 40k-ish
Then pulled Ishmael this patch
4.5m swap 322.3 120 111 (CW 3 rot, Feral DV+Guin+Eins)
4.8m swap 322.3 120 111 (CW 2 rot, Feral DV+Guin+Eins)
4.8m swap 322 122 111 (Ish GS+SAR DV+Guin, CW 2.5 rot)
5.2m solo 322 122 111 (CW DV+Eins+Glo 1 rot at start for QTE buff, Ish GS+Sar Guin+Sam)
5.3m swap 323 122 111 (Lilith GS+SAR DV+Guin, CW 2.5 rot)
5.7m swap 323 122 111 (Lilith GS+SAR DV+Guin, CW 3 rot)
Tots rn I ave 45k BC and 40/60 pity
We getting roughly 22kish bc this patch
Which should be enough for Selena and weap
Then
The let's say 35k from next patch
15 goes to vera
10 to Vergil
Leaving
10k....
Holy hell I can get Vera's weapon
Ooo
You not going Dante?
you can see that my r0 feral swap score is roughly equal to r2 ish swap score, which means feral's onfield dmg is basically worth 2 resos
Tho I rly don't wanna skip cubs but I was told cubs are bc only FK
but both are worse than lilith swap
Vera's wep just a damage increase tbh
Including reso and harmo
DMC sigs also affect their kit significantly
And I planned to skip it
Like collection purpose or actually wanna use them ?
Collection basically
But when I say I wanna use them that's for Celicas class and sheeet
Whenever ts or burn come up I'll probably have a stronger alternative
And I'll use glacio to burst through ppc
I'm actually gonna skip Vera sig and see how long I can cope for now
Defo gonna harm my progress
DMC sigs btw

Planned to skip her sug but my calculations telling me I can get it which is worrying
Hmm lilith get me interest
How its work her light buff,
Need to do fast ion on for the begining for it?
kind of
I feel like I'm horribly overestimating something
basically, you only need to start the hold atk, you don't need to full stack the ion gauge
the moment you start hold atk, she gets the mark, which lasts 15 seconds from when you start hold atk
once those 15s are over, she goes back to dark buff, aka useless
tbh weps can be gotten at any time, leaving the pulls for DMC weps which are limited then backpulling Vera's wep afterwards won't be the worst decision
Meh
Is there a guide on who to prioritize getting to SS through the pain cage shop
so you can fit all of nana rot into it, and if you're fast enough cw can get one qte during the mark to buff half her rot
Exactly
Wait
Tho dante's sig has wayyy too much qol holy fk
but the rest of cw's rot goes unbuffed
I mean Pyroath can get 580k+ scores with A rank characters supporting her in ppc
Don't even think about it
EXTREME COPIUM 
Look
If I lose to offrate
I'm leaving
If I ever lose to offrate I quit immediately

wait i got 4.4m 222.3 022 011 (ish amp), that good enough?
Ok so i i needed to one rot nana?
Cuz i felt her 2 ult not in the 15s mark
I did and I got CW weapon 
2 rot nana fast ult+long ult should be like 11s
Main DPS Set Set
Main DPS Set
High Difficulty, Pain Cage, Warzone, Clash Reflection, Norman
Recommended for all ranks
General DPS set
This unit has not been released on Global yet. Please take these builds with a grain of salt as they are subject to change.
4x Patton
2x Cottie
Top Slot : 6x Any ATK+15 Variant
Bottom Slot: 6x Signature
Cottie
losing to offrate gives me a reason to res
I've got
1 cw weapon
5 pulls from standard weapon banner guarantee
So il scrap all three and get the weapon I want
use luna lilith you can go higher
Would est into funds a little
I'm offrate proof for now
unless you havne't invested into lilith
mine lilith is ss3 and r2
Main DPS Set Set
Main DPS Set
High Difficulty, Pain Cage, Warzone, Clash Reflection, Norman
Recommended for all ranks
General DPS set
This unit has not been released on Global yet. Please take these builds with a grain of salt as they are subject to change.
4x Shakespeare
2x Cottie
Top Slot : 6x Any ATK+15 Variant
Bottom Slot: 6x Signature
Cottie
so lilith just need to do 1 hold ba, she will got the mark?
earning voucher is lazy, i am lazy to earn voucher, while wz is poor of memory usb, depend on event gameplay to get fastest of voucher
, lamost 70% - 80% is full memory, so no longer to buy more usb from voucher and i also need buy shards from voucher to improve your team, don't mind about memory resonance slots, now i can focus on shards, i play pgr recent, last time of nanamy patch, near end, so may char is too much 
oh you're asking about the swap thing
you said 222.3
swap still worse on this weather if you don't have sss cw
nah solo
can't do lilith mark zaza if you are playing solo
It's 5am and I've got 8am classes
if i hab like 10k bc right now would i have enough to pull for dante n vergil>
cause you have to swap to lilith to do it
Sigh I just wanted to relax man
you have to do luna lilith for solo
if not do i hab to skip vera and selena gomez?
enough to pull Vergil
I would have named it "Brick Maker" if anything
so that luna can convert her regular dark buffs
I mean
When i activataing on lilith and do cw and after nanarot
Even with i 1 ult cw i need to swap back to lilith i guess how nana got it the buff
skipping either = 🧱
the full gear aka wep cub and the dude
oh it still better than mine 4.4m?
we would got one free copy of dmc colab after we get one dmc char from banner, right?
my score with luna lilith is 4.8m
i have liv empy and balter, are they good enough for contents?
Minimum invest is 23k
i'm not totally sure what you are asking but i do lilith right before nana
what your rank of your chars?
i see, what is luna and lilith memo?
With emp you can prob skip Vera and just cope, Vergil is just a direct upgrade to balter in every conceivable way
alr i saw it, ty 👍
Selena is a must pull in any case
we would got one free copy of dmc colab after we get one dmc char from banner, right? or need two dmc colab chars to get one free copy? ask for hope i can roll dante and vergil a bit 
Sorry for bad English
But i got the answer i guess
For the first 2 pities of each character you get 1 copy free
In mail
For SSS Dante costs 21k and Vergil 31.5k
that chars only, not include sig n cub yet right?
Yea just chara
For both, weapons are 7500, assuming you lose pity you get the other one. CUBS are 5k per character
how emotional damage, i think 1 pity 
worst case scenario 
damage the sss, not enough power 
worst case total cost go to 84k

tbh it's ALOT of damage
I guess i keeped both on ss sig cub
84k bc is tho much for that collab
sss vergil multiple crazy 
SSS is always 🐳 territory tbh
Congratulations to whoever reaches this worst-case scenario, the title of the most tragic and tragic player of the year - the unluckiest hero of the year 
I'm before I hold that mantle 💀

Yeah
But nowaday that sync made me im the 🐳 who approching
Hard to be low spender nowadays
is pyroath worth harmonizing and if so which set

same you know it's bad when you're actually hitting the rc milestones 💀
@carmine reef guin+sam you mean 4guin 2sam no harmony right?
4guin 4sam
oh ok
you have to mainslot the 4 sam
and you do 2guin 2guin harmo
all my builds on there are harmo
As far as Vergil's SSS is concerned tho it's like 180% base damage modifier increase to JCE with an added 10800% damage assuming full stacks
got it 
Assuming the stage dont have Fire/Plasma damage increase. Which team does more damage overall? Plasma or Fire?
10800% is big? 
plasma if invested
im bout to hit 5k......
from ss to sss is whale territory, so what about owner of territory from sss to sss+? 
Are the Neir Automata characters viable now?
Definitely not a number to scoff at, Pyroath's slash damage for comparison ( do note there are alot of things in her kit that affect this modifier)
Kinda but at least not that waste that irl money
At least just for minimum rights
If i convert to my countrie currency
new painting in guild lobby i wonder if theres any meaning to it
They're reserved to being used for fun more than anything and that's assuming you have them
Whales 🐳 vs Leviathans 
Also how does one see the enemies while using Ismael?
you don't.
guys, i have a Arank CUB selector. who's good?
Lingya
I didn't expect such an inquiry 
Don't remember the last time I needed to dodge
I think 10800% is big, it's just the first time I see such a big number, Dante skill really has this number, what a terrible skill? 
Damn.....sorry I have only played a little during the first Bianca Stigmata event and now got back.
Anyways, as long as Ishmael is not in 2nd form or doing Ults, you can probably be able to see them
But Ishmael shouldn't really have the need to dodge attacks if you play her well
Besides, she does attacks WITH dodges 
Dante's SSS literally gives him SS3 Pyroath off-field damage and that 1.7x/2.1x mutliplier is on his heaviest hitting move
what are you apologizing for 
I don't have the well built roster to be able to ignore a core mechanic of this game. 
Dante's Judgement is like a multi wave clear
just teasing next character
you will in like a couple of weeks 
you don't need see enemy, you only need spam the burst and passive core repeatly, but notice the ishmeal hp, well, something she got hit even the rotation of her skill not be stopped by enemies, or she sometime stop passive core skill at wrong timre and got hit 
When i kick
I could seen them on that secund
so dante need sss to unlock the 1.7x/2.1x mutliplier his heaviest hitting move, how emotional damage i can get him to sss 
Also one pull of Dante gives you all this
21kbc so not bad honestly
is alisa echo good
Extremely and will be essential for glacio next patch
cool
Just make sure to get her from dorm
what about tragedy fate of vergil if i play big with dante 
ya ik
sigmata
I've seen someone pull on Echo 70% banner before 💀
does luna's elemental thingy make this work or nah
That works yeah
hell yeah
Make oblivion a support role if using another as dps
fake whale gaming
huh
like as in giving her DaVinci and 💩
build I use no res required
gloria???? 💀💀
for gg ez ppc clears
why gloria 💀
universal shred
oh
It helps if another person's already holding eins, separate memories = both shred applies
hm
optimally for ppc you want 4pc ele set, 2pc gloria, 2pc eins, 4pc davinci, and 4pc guin all on the same team for maximum nuke potential
Lmao what is ele
For warzone this is signifcantly less effective since sustainability matters way more
elemental
Oh
Wait im stupid
I have 1milion tokens i can definitely afford that
you can also save sets to make it super easy to switch builds on the fly
Genshin could never
I run multiple for all characters
also true lol
Wait
Does it matter what elem mem i use
depends on who the main dps is
Giving Luna chen jiyuan is going to be so wired 💀
wouldn't wanshi be using chen tho? 
Wait
I'm dum
you have sig for wanshi right?
what should I do for lilith?
Blue
blue since she starts with it
sure thanks
man ngl Jetavie's numbers are so sad
The hell I'm supposed to do with those two?
They literally have not taken a single mission and one of them already going through 2nd week.
Both if them active, so I can't kick without penalty
I'm glad Dante atleast powercreeps Hyperreal lol
I mean, Hyperreal got power crept before anyway 
Meanwhile BRS 🧱 
do i still have access to outlier point if i choose advanced zone next week ?
It's called Brick Rock Solid for a reason 
no
god dangit
have to be in ultimate for outlier so I recommend blitzing through it if you have it
Ishmael with 5 star deletes outlier tho
Jetavie s rank trust
man my teams arent strong enough for normal revival plan..what do i do
give huaxu?
if you want hear one wrosen advice, select red pings, it is the worsen choice i can offer to you for kindness 
U could borrow ur guildies/friend u its for one team
And balancing the electrisity on the remain team
mine is private u wont be able to see investment
Good energy field placement helps alot
perfect then we gotta always make things harder cz they are too easy no? 
the ai bot??? i lookied it up nvm
yes, it is perfect for playing harder and make life more harder 
yeah np
knowing account investment level helps alot tho ngl
life as a f2p is still easy (didn't even reach 80
)
What resonance for Ishmael?
PGR is easy for F2P, not as Wuwa, damage 
depends but for dps, DLT
Dlt?
Dead Line Timing
the only charc i have with dlt is lucia pyroath
Huh? I don't see that in the upper or lower resonance
oh memory res? atk top sig bottom
this is for weapon resonance if m not wrong
Atk and what?
anything works just hav +15 attack
lower is sign
most charcs nowadays have the exact requirement
atk top and ultimate at bottom (sig basically), also you can type /build in #📨・bot-info in the future
What does hypertune do?
hypertune ?
hypertune buffs stats further
Recommend only hypertuning bottom layer initially
So all of your atk memories should be full hypertuned
top has hp so less reason to hypertune besides for pact
can you screencap your current norman
norman ?
Sorry but where's the hypertune star increase? I don't see what changed
is this banner worth pulling on and how exactly does it work?
not immediately
Weapon banner is perm and there's no rush
Should i try and get vera garnet for my alpha CW ???
Guaranteed wep in 60 pulls assuming you lose the 70/30
Does S to SS takes 30 Shard or 50
30
I see thank you, I'll save it for later then
as i do have the option to select here , dont know who to get
57 for SS3 from S and 120 to SSS
Startrail if you don't have her
Does phantom pain cage exchange shop reset every week or it’s permanent and you can buy only 30 shards of a character from there
it has an 80/20 chance, so you're not guaranteed to get the weapon first try (would be suck to lose the 80/20 tho)
kk
can only get 30 shards max, you can still get pretty far off of just SS0 ranks tho
Is there a way I can transfer the hypertune and resonance to another piece?
no
SS0?
Is S To SS a big upgrade?
mandatory
gotcha
Why
Who should I prioritize in PPC?
Still a question to me.
Why tf they don't take any missions despite logging every day?
most characters don't have functioning kits until they're SS'd although some are still decent from the get go like Startrail
ish first
And then there are characters like Solacetune or Pyroath that need SS to even be considered usable
Luna works fine at S.
Did not notice any meaningful change compared to SS.
However someone like Ishmael... Jesus Christ babe
Who should I SS first Nanami startrail or ishmael?
Ishmael easily
Why does everyone cost different
Sales
the first 10 shards are only 10 skulls each lel
You can even buy shards of character you don’t have?
the other 20 shards cost 20
500 skulls to SS
Holy
How many weeks then
I have them already.
You can trade voucher for characters but I don't recommend it
depends on how good you do in ppc
Ok then Nanami?
I have not unlocked ranking
after Ishmael atleast
Then what to buy with vouchers
who to prio between ishmael and pyroath?
rank ups for the f2p characters
Is S Ishamel and SS ishmel very different
Specifically for SSS Wanshi and SS3 Lilith
get lilith and wanshi shards
What are rank ups
improves her ROT considerably and ups her buffs she provides for the team
The first 10 are 10 skulls the next ten 20, the next ten 30 so it takes 500 to SS
SS -> SSS sort of thing
Lilith is SS now 90 shares are very far right
I'd say Ishmael just because she's newer and functions as both an amp and tank
SS3 Lilith is a good stopping point, her SSS isn't anything too crazy
Can I even buy shards for character I don’t have
How do I beat the Gabriel in physical in norman
I'm dying and no Hanyings are available in support

No
Wanshi's on the other hand
only with vouchers but it isn't recommended
You can for a couple of older characters like Garnet, Rosetta and Empyrea from the vouchers shop but it ain't worth it
you lose out on 20 shards that way
since dupes for characters give 30, and it requires 50 to acquire a new one
Hello
SS3 in how many shards? And where to buy Shards for Lilith
What's Lilith's memory?
27 from SS
from here
Should I buy with phantom or vouchers or is there any other F2P way
if you can vouchers is preferable
Is it cheap for her? Cause you are saying buy for her but not for other in exchange shop
maybe doing a mix but early on you want those ppc skulls for the premium characters you have
costs this much to SS3 with just vouchers
If you don't have Wanshi SS tho I'd recommend that first
It's better to spend vouchers on newer frames like Wanshi and Lilith so you can save your PPC skulls whenever possible
this
Can anyone tell me Daemonissa's Memory set?
@cold walrus bro im so stuck, i dont get how to consistently do it either, sometimes i get wave 13 on 1:30 and most times its 12 i dont even know why xD then i barely have a run where its wave 20 on 00:57, maybe like twice in the past hour and thats where i set this score, also trying to do the dash cancels legit make it worse for me wtff
I spent 4000 orange tickets and got a copy so I got lucky
But I'm not so sure cause I don't know
you wot
Hi guys after Vera who's gonna be our potential new construct besides DMC boys
Check the bot info channel
What's your team invest?! 👀
The next premium banner of Lilith
Okay
Does wanshi red ping or holf basic do more dmg
Yeah I'd stop there that banner is a trap lol
I'm saving for DMC myself
Yeah I did
I just couldn't not pull which is why I did

Both
What
You cycle between them
Well I'm running low
I have just 20k BC now
But next patch would be a triple patch, but I won't play much of it
we don't know for now because i heard kuro announced that we're not getting beta footage anymore
prob best to go for weeklie/ events then
Why when u can stick to one
they buff eachother
im copying taishis solo nana with lilith luna, 332 230
I see
luna basically homeless just carrying memos and qte
SSS Nanami 👀
How about you what do you think
That’s too to ooooooo much
kamui
next patch will give quite alot
I don’t even have wanshi I will buy Alicia first
What the fck those numbers are?
I see people posting like 1,22,0,1 and etc.
Tf that means?
Because my first thought is literally coordinations 
Did you get r2 nana?
Lucid Dreamer > Echo > Kaleido should be priority
Reason why you want Wanshi is he's a free gen 3 tank so he shreds like crazy
Yes with abs sweaty as S-rank dark tank
Fushen hell 16s good?
But I wanna get Alicia as fast as possible for Vergil team
I have sss cub too. Maybe it gives such a boost idk 
i got 17s or 18 idr
you still have 2 months for dmc btw, you can get all 3 during those timeframes lol
Yeah but like Wanshi then get echo
Ok
yeah its R2 nana, dang my cubbie is SS, idk if that makes that difference but could be
can i ask here for account tips? Kinda new player but i've done a bit of research as well so i'm not 100% lost
it seemed really simple... 
You reach a point where you can easily acquire the commissions needed for them in less than weeks
Priority for this all 30 for ishmel first then all 30 for Nanami? Right
Hey, is there any info of what frame is coming after DMC? or when is the next cn stream?
sure this is the channel for asking help
yeah im ngl theres so many things to say that you'd probably be in here for hours unless you ask a specific questin
dubs
indeed
uhmm , just a small thing , should i get ishamel parahellion ? and also is she good ?
no one knows yet
k, thanks
every new characters are good
Get ready for small wall of text incoming
Skipping in this game = 🧱
she's the new nihil amp/tank so i'd recommend getting her
Ishmael is literally god so pull
Do you have Luna Oblivion
She is a GOD
I'mma show you my account, and tell me if it has the potential to survive until after DMC
Zamn where Oblivion
Hi can someone tell me where I can access the story modes for Hanying and Luna's summer coatings? It was in the last patch but I remember it said it'll be available this patch

That's solid just get Qu Shukra from the free selector next patch
I don't like her tbh
oblivion doko
So here's where i am at rn, i do have lilith but idk if i continue pulling on her banner, i'm 70/90 on tsubaki coating (she's too damn beautiful), I have no signature weapons that aren't free, no cubs that aren't free, i want to pull for dmc stuff, I'm 7/10 on thunderbolt research s rank thingie, 55/60 on standard selector, and idk what to really target towards now
Yeah, if you have a picture with you.
It also doesn't really simplify that much 
oh look its tsubricki
She's insane to have for fast ppc clears
i dont
Hmm who'd you pick in the standard selector
Wait any way to get this skin for free
any upcoming good ones ? that might power creep her ? or are on a higher priority to get ?
No
I know she's in meta but...
Idk I just don't like her like at all 😭
just gacha with black cards, thats it
No
powercreep is very slow in this game, takes like 1-2 years
vera garnet , that's because i have crimson weve , needed her
I've eyeing Qu and then Ishmael at base banner
Does every coating also give different animations
Damn you were scammed
Nanami?
Qu on base?
good luck on that "surviving"
did you actually pull for vera garnet for cw ?
u aint using ishmael without oblivion lmao
No, i don't think sss cub can give +500k score. Probably inconsistent pings/bad timings/idk. My run has mostly perfect optimization (i hope lol), and before i had 8m. 2nd and 3rd ults are crucial. If you hit 8 and 11 waves with ultimate, i think you can go higher
She's vital for enemies with nihil shields
idk i instantly understood after like the first minute of seeing it its really intuitive
ther'es a brick react on my message, uh oh
Qu for the selector

i havent gotten her yet but 30 pulls in
gotcha how do you plan on getting solacetune?
My man
Just why
why
alrighty, do you think the dodge cancels are a must? the score i got was with no dodge cancels and whenever i do them i end up with worse wave progression
Then CHANGE THE CHECK
i fked up didnt i
Thunderbolt banner I haven't touched it yet
i went based on recommended partners
You do have one chance to change it right
Pyroath seems unstoppable at the moment, with sig I used 3 USB sticks 🍡
yeah change to who ?
will kuro release an alternative to ignition, ultima slash team if you don’t invest in DMC? usually pgr characters, u can slowly invest over time, but DMC only available in one patch, then can never get them again
you're supposed to get nanami: star trail for cw, even then you only need to use nanami because she powercrept cw
Wait
oh ok
tsubrickie...
Just send your huaxu or who all you have
ye sure pyroath helps but like u aint surviving on void content
personally I'd say Oblivion from standard and pull all current but then again you're pulling for DMC I presume right
can i send my huaxu 
What should i priortize pulling for rn? Also worth mention I joineed the game for dmc
Which should I pick?
no
Stop flexing on us smh
me need advice too 
I got 20k bc rn and 7k yellow 🎫 for Vera is my current plan yes
LUNE PFP LETS GOOOOOOO
blue on Lilith, red on Ishmael
ok , gimme a min
If you dodge cancelling, you can save 1-2 sec at the end and start the final slam at 300 points, but idk if it is possible to do full slam and ult with my rot. Probably nah
my bbg
Or you can type like 5 symbols more and get the same result but you don't need to use entire picture to explain everything.
Take same example:
2.123 012 100 = 13 symbols.
SS3R0H SSR1 SSS0R2 = 18 symbols but I don't need entire picture to explain
I still don't regret betraying her tho
np 👍
Is it in the context of competitive warzone?
Yes
That's the case the content you'll struggle most will be nihil and glacio

i hate it but it was for a greater good
Guys is the 2 months pass the most worth to buy
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Does Luna and Qu need their sigs?
alrighty thank you for the insight man, appreciate it 
Qu more than Luna at this point
Damn you're way too beginner for me to help
Idk too much ask DMC selector doko maybe he'll know
yes, and youre gonna say u dont care abt it, am i correct? 
ss3r1 sss0r1 ss0r3 vs 2.332 113 111
Yeah, still kinda wish we could have had a good ending with Gustave tho 
honestly i just find it more convenient to type numbers
but yeah both need sigs
ikr, for those who came after 
First one is intuitive to everyone in the chat.
Second one is only for those who knows about numbers
How do I get CW to 6k BP? I fully resonated her, she’s currently S
explain
she’s at 5.9k
r-right?
Hyper tune
i dont think its a bad system though
i’m not 80. so i have to wait until 80 to get 6k?
https://huaxu.app/na/players/28899279/characters
Didn't realize this existed but here it is
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I did but once I was consistently like top 3 I started to question if I need other characters, plasma just seems to shred through.
Ultimately I just need a reality check here
I mean he wants to know whom to pick in the check banner but he's just starting out
I have enough to get thunderbolt manual selector and also the standard banner, just need some tips on who to pull from those
Did 14s just now
whats ur highest tier u ever get?
To play safe you can probably go along with your ishmael base plan and pull on characters you need during a anniv banner


put her in mindscape pact
It's not bad, but it is basically redundant and works more like "special jargon for elites" instead. Or at least it creates this feelings for me
who should I get for the dmc teams?
thanks
pick oblivion
Shows 15 cuz glitch
Plasma still strongest team in cn atm
It's just personal preference
The dalao and pros use the latter
not for most of us
luna oblivion ? right
I guess
special jargon for elites is crazy
Dante and Vergil's are the second highest
Yes
and then try to get ishmael asap
I'm in Elite
It ain't special jargon
You just get used to it
#📨・bot-info i posted the teams there
Oh thank you!
Yes yes yes
well that explains it, once u get to at least hero, you will struggle a bit
I have no idea how to call something that used by specific group within the same community.
My English knowledge is not good enough to think of better name for it 
If I get Luna, is it worth spending 7500 bc on her sig
anniversary banner is also why I'm totally ok with 🧱
but when I 🐳 I ended up with enough event cards to snag everyone regardless
still waiting on @quiet lily huaxu 
i mean yeah its only for pgr but thats because pgr is pretty much the only game with this sort of rank scaling
Low spending on sync goes kinda crazy ngl
ss0 decryptor better than S rozen?
i think i have around 40 rolls , and im 30 into this one
depends on how much u have right now, but most likely not worth, get ishmael sig instead
Teddy always better than rozen, SS3 Teddy clears her
at 4 its sss+ so like ssss
ill try getting some more tickets
In preparation for dmc collab, and while having the standard and thunderbolt manual available what should i pull? Also is wanshi lucid dream worth it to dump a bunch of resources into? I kinda like his character and kit
@worthy gulch also, if you could hit w22 with ult, it can be a breakpoint too. I tried and sucked, but probably you can 
ye u can do this, almost there
hear me out SSS+ rozen
I'll be using her for dark team
with sig
They do be generous, but I assume this the games peak when it comes to rewards
im just humble f2p 
thx man , ill let uk , knowing my luck might go upto 50 on each 
and still waiting for huaxu 
Man, I'm already about to demote from Leader and you telling me there's much worse in a future 
thx u too
hey man, i went to 60 every banner lmao
What is the more worth the feral bp or monthly pass
it was pretty nice to be even before the sync just now everything is faster and as a result I end up landing on more rc milestones
wanshi is very worth it, you'll get a bunch of resources later very quickly so it doesn't hurt to invest in him
I have 20k bc rn
so it's either Qu or Luna on that free selector
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I meant in a way like Community inside community.
Aka specific group of PGR players.
I think it was $15 for 60pulls worth of currency last patch
sig weapon and cub?
🤫
If I want to make a vergil team but I dont have solacetune/echo who should I priotize getting first out of those two

Solacetune because Echo is free from dorm
okay cool cause i got the selector from that thunderbolt gacha
u can get qu next patch free selector. wait which selector are we talking abt now 
For anyone new here select tonitrus from the 6star weapon selector
i only saw the next 2 lanes 
instantly knew
if you're going for that save it for after DMC, it's a perm one time gacha
The one up to Qu only, the base banner I'm planning on nabbing Ishmael
most characters need their sigs to work better but you can ignore cubs if you want to (their banner is perm anyway), but since you're new, you can skip sigs for now
I need a job for that 😔
I uh kinda used it already 
ohh what about this
qu selector = qu
base banner = loona
current debut banner = ishmael
get all that
why? because theres no luna in qu selector
check dm 
Meanwhile I had a friend snag all of Shaper's Ripples content in 3 days via luck
Whel
bro won .5% 3 times in a row
😂 rip , so luna obliv first then parahelion right ?
Oh.... Cough no Luna... I got told... She was in it... Cough 🤧
hopefully I'm that when I pull DMC and not hard pity everything lol
But my luck generally kinda 🗑️
I never got an early yet😭
Does unc need his sig
no but it helps alot
u can pull both, luna oblivion using blue tix
parhelion using yellow tix and bc
Great news for my broke ahh
I've been running 5 stars on him until Solacetune's patch lol
oh ok, and also to kinda build ice team and prep dmc, can you rate my plan? Qu from new banner, hanying from thunderbolt selector, and vera (fire one, I'll wait until it comes) from standard
Qu from banner?
The uhhhh next patch one right
oh so the selector
Dw you'll get earlies once in three patches
yea
so who's being skipped?
For harmony would I need to resonate two more memories or I just get the set effect as it is
Ishmael, lilith banner, selena (i do still kinda want her tho)

you harmonize everyone at all times
Nonononono not Ishmael
Nooooo
huh
You eventually end up with more harmony mats than you do characters
No I mean when I put the harmony effect do I need to have two memories that are resonated
Lowkey someone just tell me who and what to pull, and i'll be on my way, i'm so lost now lmfao
oh he build looks like this
you can get the whole lilith set for free





