📨・meta-help

[fluid gulch]

Also, is 4.7m in plasma any good with SS3 R1 Pyro, SSS R3 Lilth and SS3 R2 StarTrail?

[trail stump]

223 122 111 Plasma 4.3mil. Did I do good? SEA Hero.

[quasi inlet]

should my Nanaknight's Infinitas orb be red or blue? or does it not matter?

[lusty minnow]

should be 5m go mald more

[fluid gulch]

Noooo

I don't wanna

[foggy ridge]

@ripe stag i thought it was phys or something

[fluid gulch]

[lusty minnow]

[fluid gulch]

I think I can get 5m, I think I'm using wrong rot tho

[trail stump]

I'm too slow for Plasma 😭😭😭

[lusty minnow]

im siting at 3.9m with ss0 pyroath and nana ss3 lilith

[dreamy imp]

is elisa echo worth resonnance? What is her upper and lower? 😅

[fluid gulch]

I'm using dis onehttps://youtu.be/xgstePgAEnc?si=2xQ35Gg2dtth6iJ1

But I don't have SSS Nana so I have to wait a bit to swap out to Lilith

[lusty minnow]

its that ss3 rots?

[fluid gulch]

He's team is full S+ but I think SS3 rot is the same as S+

[lusty minnow]

[fluid gulch]

Well, it did work

But I wanna try dis one toohttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qZs6qd41Bkk

[lusty minnow]

look at this whel
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LLx1p5TDMag

[fluid gulch]

tf is that thumbnail

[simple dew]

does skych have an energy drain mechanic or am i doing smth wrong on my pyro

[lusty minnow]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LEdRrZrEStI&t=91s

im using this ss0 rots

[simple dew]

ss0 pyro is so noob

get ss3 smh

[lusty minnow]

ss3 still noob, sss or dead

[fluid gulch]

s+ for human rights

[simple dew]

[peak halo]

Just s++

[simple dew]

when does norman reset

[lusty minnow]

1 days 14hrs

[simple dew]

will i get atleast 51 shards

[late flower]

i have crimson weave at 6000 BP but the quest won’t complete for some reason

[fading kestrel]

Restart game

[barren plank]

Unequip and reequip her stuff

[peak halo]

Why everyone wait norman

[late flower]

oh shoot alright

[wet tusk]

Oh god, why is this rot soo hella confusing

[lusty minnow]

[wet tusk]

I lost at it when he did lucias first rotation

[fluid gulch]

Try the one I posted above

[slate forge]

Can I have some teams for normal revival plan?

[wet tusk]

ever since ive been doing physic 2 lec my brain cannot comprehend basic english grammar😭✌🏻

[ripe stag]

Sub under 2 mins

[simple dew]

what mems should i give luna if lilith has 4dv4guin

[simple dew]

solo nanami

[frank kindle]

damn below my time

#📨・meta-help message

[simple dew]

wait what

clash reseted?

[ripe stag]

THR POWER OF MY F2P UNLUCKY ASS

[slate forge]

Uhm hehe

[ripe stag]

[frank kindle]

what team u used

[wet tusk]

this looks like a whel team, i only have ss3 r1 pyro, ss0 r1 lil & ss0 nanaknight

[simple dew]

imagine caring about clash team

[wet tusk]

yeah i do

[mental path]

i can buy monthly pass b twice but not pass a right?

[wet tusk]

i think you can?

[ripe stag]

What time should I have on Lamia hell again?

[terse junco]

Should i buy echo shards at voucher shop?

[ripe stag]

Lilith Luna Ishmael

[peak halo]

U can buy a or b twice
But both in the same time not

[ripe stag]

Would have been even faster actually

[mental path]

o

[frank kindle]

i lost lots of time on cw and 14 wave

rest were like 5-6seconds kills

[wet tusk]

yeah, dont waste ppc skulls although...

okay nvm, just buy it unless you have wanshi

actually, cant you get echo from the dormitory???

[slate forge]

Is "hypertune" worth it?

[ripe stag]

Very much

Make or breaks the damage numbers

[terse junco]

i already have echo i just can't decide who should i buy from the shards

[slate forge]

Okay tyvm
Ima hypertune my luna

[slate forge]

Wait wdym by break?..

[ripe stag]

Low damage vs high damage

[slate forge]

It has a 5050?..

[ripe stag]

Specially if you have done sequence pact completely

[ripe stag]

No

I'm saying the damage difference between Hypertuned vs non Hypertuned

[slate forge]

Ohhhhh

Mbb and tyvm for helping

[wet tusk]

do you have wanshi?

i mean, you can also do lilith actually

[peak halo]

The pior which i know is wanshi > lilith > echo> anyone else shards by voucher

[wet tusk]

shes like available in three teams

[terse junco]

nah but i can buy him i have 200k dispatch coins lel

[slate forge]

Wait orb should I chose when I do the final awakening for luna oblivion?

[wet tusk]

oh, dont waste ur voucher shards on dudes that are available on dorm lol

[terse junco]

so wanshi has better evolve than ayla?

[peak halo]

Basicaly yeah
Cuz he a tank and gen 3

[wet tusk]

wanshi ur ice tank and ayla is ur ice amp both are needed for ice team

and yeah

he has a better evol than ayla

[terse junco]

is wanshi still good as a dps since i don't have qu shukra

[wet tusk]

yes

[terse junco]

does he need sig weapon?

[wet tusk]

hes literally like 60% of the team other than qu shukra being a nuke

[wet tusk]

well not really but it is better to have it since it doubles the base damage of his stuff i forgot

it also enables u to harmo & reso

[terse junco]

https://tenor.com/view/vergil-white-monster-based-gif-7003860330266612245

thanks

[broken elk]

Dies of death and fast fingers

[spiral merlin]

Oh right it’s ion week

[lusty minnow]

ion rots fun af, fast or dead

[broken elk]

i kept screwing up pyroath's rot

like swap in and either i forgot to atk + dodge
i hold ult too early

[frank kindle]

#📨・meta-help message

[spiral merlin]

Scores are looking disappointing for ion at least so far in eu

[frank kindle]

[peak halo]

Ohh i forgot about its 3/6enemy💀
My week for ez 15m is ruined

[spiral merlin]

Ion mob is really cooked

[broken elk]

i hate it here...

[peak halo]

Unless i can cook light
And a acceptable ice score

[raw swift]

What is acceptable

[peak halo]

Like now 6m

Or lowest is 5.5m

[terse junco]

should i do the main build of wanshi or the support build i found in teh gray ravens site since i'm planning to get qu shukra in the next update

[stone pelican]

the s rank selector we are getting will it be permanent or just selena patch?

[raw swift]

do we know what element and effect vergil and dante has

[stone pelican]

no helpers here damn

mod eos this channel now

[peak halo]

Main build
Support is for will glacio effect
And fast clear ppc with high rank shukra

[terse junco]

should i stick with the main build since i don't have shukra yet?

[worthy gulch]

rejecting the mentor applications gives me such a joy

[frank kindle]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/867995160854806588/1369772984759357440/some-tldr-for-future-v0-yxkzwlzpi8ze1.png?ex=683eb240&is=683d60c0&hm=3f529072183f8893aaaa916740762a9eec6f05b1c892af7632614bb2e2203185&

[stone pelican]

i can't read chinese. is it 41 days?

[peak halo]

Generaly yeah
Cuz shukra needs more wanshi onfield dmg than support

[copper ginkgo]

what else if not days ? hours / minutes

[cinder shoal]

I saw this, but I’m not sure how to actually get her?? I really like her

[terse junco]

dumb question tho but what does "(h)" even means in the gray ravens site on the memory build

[spiral merlin]

oh lol

everyone is just bad

my terrible onetap

[mental path]

what do i buy on war shop

[copper ginkgo]

you do pulls

[raw swift]

I read the pins about vergil and dante
but I don't really understand the effect situation
so in raw power they're weaker but because of the affix, they're on par or better than meta
does that mean they have some specific team or niche?
i don't really understand

[frank kindle]

u do missions, claim pulls and just use them

[peak halo]

Harmonised
But to mention
That side is a bit outdated for builds
In this dc could use more relevant build in bot-info and uses /build "construct name"

[stone pelican]

what you need to know is that you are a new player so don't bother with affix or meta just pull the char that you like

[cinder shoal]

Are u gurantted in 20? That seems rare, I was looking in special and didn’t see if it gave the character or if it was add ons (I thought it was similar
To the outfit pull thingy)

[raw swift]

I was gonna do that yea
well thanks 👍🏻

[vale raft]

Wanshi: Lucid Dreamer <:s_rank:1287636749052412026><:tank:1290614106520555571><:ice_element:1290613933106925638><:glaciation:1288090076001210398>

Main Tank Set

Usage

Main Tank/Sub-DPS

Game Modes

High Difficulty, Pain Cage, Warzone, Clash Reflection, Norman

Description

Recommended for all ranks
General Tank/Sub-DPS set

Memories

4x Liston
2x Einsteina

Memory Resonances

Top Slot : 6x Any ATK+15 Variant
Bottom Slot: 6x Signature

Harmony Recommendation

None

[worthy gulch]

feels like the zone is just ass, arent we supposed to get 14m on a boss zone?

[cold walrus]

@spiral merlin do you think incandescence is better than ml as second reso for wanshi, considering i usually do triple rots with him? because ml only buff the first ult, and incan buffs every ult, but buff is weaker ofc

[spiral merlin]

yeah zone is ass no doubt but people are scoring ass too

[stone pelican]

im not a humanitarian to help ppl here and there. My advice will be skip next patches and save black cards for collab chars and you are ready for the collab

[tender ridge]

what free S rank we get in next patch also is it next patch yet

[barren plank]

Why are we skipping characters

[spiral merlin]

with triple rot yeah incan is prob the way but i prefer ml because the red orb threshold is usually a big one to hit in my experience

[stone pelican]

elite won't skip newbies will

[unborn hound]

wtf is going with this f ing ice stage bruh

why is it so buggy shukra and wanshi and the enemies keep getting stuck and unable to move

[spiral merlin]

i hate it when i get a mob thats 1hp after red orb with wanshi

[stone pelican]

and im a selena hater so ofcourse i will skip selena

[cinder shoal]

What should I choose with my current weapons and characters

[barren plank]

You shouldn't be skipping anyone period regardless if you have been playing ofr 3 years or 3 days

[unborn hound]

tonitrus

[stone pelican]

im a balter fan is this makes clear?

[barren plank]

Yea
Affixes are just fancy terms for entirely new elements, Dante and vergil can't do thhat well in fire and phys, but for their respective affix content they are the current best

[unborn hound]

what's your ice score?

[lusty minnow]

4.3m

[raw swift]

hallo chat

[frank kindle]

did u open wz yet

[raw swift]

no

[unborn hound]

yes

[raw swift]

oh I see
well I'll just tap buttons and hope it works

[barren plank]

People are seeking genuine account help and advice your personal preference is irrelevant

[lusty minnow]

What is your ice score? Should be better than me

[unborn hound]

im doing ice right now

[worthy gulch]

pure suffering

[unborn hound]

"should be better than mine" he says not realizing i don't have shukra's sig

[stone pelican]

and why would you pull next patch char if you just came here for collab?

[lusty minnow]

Oh sht

[fervent elm]

Hello, if Ayla’s weapon is not harmonized, what memory set should I be using for ice team? Really don’t wanna waste for Ayla
Thinking of. Does this suffice?
Ayla: 4 DV 2 Guin
Wanshi: 4 sig 4 Einstein
Qu: 4 sig 4 Jihuan

[lusty minnow]

I forgot that

[unborn hound]

i got 3.85 i think

[frank kindle]

[barren plank]

Cause you dont know who plans to stay and who doesn't? Unless they specify they dont care about meta then you tell them thee best game plan

[lusty minnow]

Nice

[barren plank]

And this person did not

[tender ridge]

i mean the reason i come to this channel is asking meta stuff

[ripe stag]

Does circuit connect reset

[barren plank]

Not to my knowledge

[tender ridge]

cuz what else we asking for
"HAVING FUN"
in a gacha game thats competition over score and rank ?!!

[ripe stag]

Wow

[tender ridge]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/867718398208245761/1379143106188021770/camellya.gif

[frank kindle]

i couldn't wait any longer

[ripe stag]

Permanent useless gamemode

[unborn hound]

i can get to 3.9 or above IF THE F ING STAGE WILL STOP MAKING MY WANSHI GETTING STUCK

[raw swift]

hi, there's this cool channel called #💬・pgr-general u should go check it out and talk there instead of here if u ain't giving good advice

[lusty minnow]

[ripe stag]

How long does it take to clear DFM, AT and CW?

The award part atleast

[lusty minnow]

Now check the profile, any of them are whel?

[waxen vine]

which one? we got couple of em

[acoustic wigeon]

Erza are you hacked

[barren plank]

Quick thing tho
You will need certain units if you want them to work well cause affixes work a little differently from normal elements

[frank kindle]

poor students

[stone pelican]

why it feels like this chat is more toxic than pgr general?

[ripe stag]

?

Why

[peak halo]

U mean one run?

[lusty minnow]

Anyway I beat the alpha simp s+ in mine bracket

[acoustic wigeon]

These questions are very unlike you

[lusty minnow]

[ripe stag]

I'm finding ways to get DMC units without bricking

[subtle flume]

how do i do the clash of wills mission for bridget story

[stone pelican]

anyways ezra can you verify the thing that i send it to dm?

[acoustic wigeon]

Fair

[barren plank]

Perma modes give event tickets not BC

[waxen vine]

you only get bc from game modes also you cant use yellow tickets for dmc and either way you use bc you will get brick

[sharp valve]

cant you convert tickets into dmc tickets

[waxen vine]

no only black cards

[stoic rapids]

what kind of advice is this. new player so feel free to brick account?

[barren plank]

BC only, not event tickets

[ripe stag]

i mean
If i get event tickets, I can use up the bc I get for DMC unit

[barren plank]

Ok fair

[ripe stag]

Since pulls are pulls

[ripe stag]

Sec

[acoustic wigeon]

Affirmation therapist type shi

[peak halo]

Or use that ticket on a debut instead bc how save bc for collab

[stone pelican]

most of the new players came here for dmc collab so they want advice for dmc type things

[stoic rapids]

to answer you question, yes they have a specific team and niche. their affixes is their niche, when those weathers come around in war zone or ppc they will be the meta pick for them

[waxen vine]

bro get on my level been farming game modes side missions what ever i can for even a single bit of yellow ticket to pull ishmael with out spending black cards its like climbing a mountain with my teeth

[ripe stag]

Oh yea with that
What should I pick from the next patch selector ?

[acoustic wigeon]

Well that doesn't mean you don't give them the full picture

[waxen vine]

yeah can do that

[stoic rapids]

so? unless those players' intention is to not do anything until dmc patch and leave right after we should help them build a stable account over time so they stay with the game instead of recommending pulling whatever, bricking their account and ending up quitting

[waxen vine]

i agree with you here lets try get them an account that they can build up post dmc collab and still play the game

[barren plank]

Wait we're still arguing ab this

[peak halo]

I guess u full f2p

[stoic rapids]

always and forever. some of us are trying to actually help these poor souls and some ppl just wing it with "do whatever" or recommend pulling cw

[waxen vine]

yeah

[stoic rapids]

i know we are short on helpers and i am definitely not fully qualified but i'll do what i can 😄

[barren plank]

No I mean I thought the guy left

[stoic rapids]

which guy

[steady otter]

https://media.discordapp.net/attachments/865899693468418049/1199236675470118982/image0.gif

[barren plank]

The guy we were arguing with

[stoic rapids]

oh hes famous already? this is my first time interacting with him so i wouldnt know

[slate forge]

Whats a good feral team?

Alsoo is there any other way to get 5 star weapons excluding the gacha and recycle?

[acoustic wigeon]

[barren plank]

Feral is a old support she's not really equipped to do damage very well

[acoustic wigeon]

What just happened

[slate forge]

Oh
But she's still pretty good right?

[barren plank]

If you are a new player then you can get Startrail from the base banner in order to help build a lightning team

Currently the best lightning support yes

[fallen bear]

where did 4 star weapons go?

[carmine reef]

Best out of 2

[slate forge]

Im a returning player
These are the characters I have

[fallen bear]

recycling them doesn't give shards anymore, and i don't like arclight enough to get him a 5 star scythe

[peak halo]

Best out of 3

[slate forge]

+feral and crimson

[barren plank]

Did you use your base banner selection feature this patch?
Or did you get Oblivion some other way

[raw swift]

weathers?

[astral berry]

Wasted 6k bc in Lilith banner, rlly wanna kms

[slate forge]

I got her on her release banner

[barren plank]

Oh nice

[fervent elm]

Bro dodged the 30% bullet

[barren plank]

No I think he means on her patch

Anyways

[slate forge]

Yee

I got luna and her sig then dipped cuz genshin

[barren plank]

Yea you can get Startrail from the base banner selector for your lightning team, and get Pyroath from the Thunderbolt Resaerch selector

[slate forge]

Ik the banner selector but thunderbolt research selector?

[barren plank]

Oh it's the special banner under the CW tab

[fervent elm]

Is skipping Ishmael really gonna brick void team? I thought I could just use gen 3 amp, tank, and luna and they would all still be doing gen 3 void dmg.

[slate forge]

Its this same as lilith special banner?

[barren plank]

It costs Black Cards but it is permanent, so to get thee most value out of it just try to spend a little every patch and work your way up to completing it

[barren plank]

No that's it's own thing

[slate forge]

Oh

Is it in event tab?

[carmine reef]

Your tank and amp dont deal void dmg

[barren plank]

Yea if you fully completed all the missions it should be there

[fervent elm]

Doesn’t luna convert all to void?

[barren plank]

No

Luna only converts buffs

Not damage

[carmine reef]

She converts buffs and debuffs

[ripe stag]

But your Tank or Amp won't deal Nihil Damage
Let alone insanely big numbers

[slate forge]

The event's name is thunderbolt research selector?

[ripe stag]

CONVERTS the buff/shred

Not damage

[barren plank]

No just Thunderbolt Research
DONT SPEND EVERYTHING ON IT AT ONCE THOUGH, since it does. cost premium currency

[stark magnet]

Oh god im going to lose it

[slate forge]

Okiieee tyvvvm

[stark magnet]

I still cant fcking 5ults, helppp

[barren plank]

Even if they did do void damage u would still be screwed against the disruption shields

[stark magnet]

[barren plank]

Nw, gl and godspeed

[barren plank]

U have SS3?

[stark magnet]

Yes

[raw swift]

bricked

[stark magnet]

40 mins mald and i stillccan only do 3ults max

[peak halo]

Just 40mins
U just give up

[stark magnet]

Yea

I gave up

[fervent elm]

Ah shite. I thought I had an idea for a sec and can skip Ish. Thanks!

[zealous herald]

Do team comps really matter early game? Like im only lvl 56 when do I start worrying about making multiple teams

[stark magnet]

[carmine reef]

For early game you don't have enough characters in general, so you have to team build with what you can so you can get skulls from ppc

Skulls are definitely the most important resource for you

And team building is important for ppc

[zealous herald]

So story,ppc and what else?

When it comes to character building what do I focus on

[carmine reef]

Story doesnt really need anything

[proper sonnet]

It doesn't really matter but
Which one would Clear the Clash Fastest

Fire
Pyroath and Watanabe are SS and have Sigs with Harmony
Liv is SS and has Sig

Nihil
Luna,Ishmael, Lilith are all SS + Sig + Harmony

Plasma
Pyroath, Lilith, Nanami are all SS + Sig + Harmony

[carmine reef]

Wz needs team-building but also not a priority for early game, clash and norman are harder and you wont fully clear those until a little later anyway

[peak halo]

U had a week for it
So just not hurry
But i felt u i couldnt cant do 4ult ish rot, but still try ing it

[barren plank]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=A9ite2VJgMQ&t=222s

[stark magnet]

My ss3 pyroach got 2:12 sec
My ss3 ishmael team got 1:45 sec
Idk about plasma its suck

[carmine reef]

You want mono elemental teams with role balance except in certain cases

[zealous herald]

One more question, when it comes to amplifiers or tanks, how do I apply their buffs before I go to my dps and deal as much dmg as possible? I come from wuwa and it only feels right for me to apply buffs or debuffs before I deal dmg 😭

[proper sonnet]

Isnt Plasma the Strongest Team?

[carmine reef]

Use commands /glbteams or /cnteams in #📨・bot-info , or check my teams sheet in pinned msgs

[fluid gulch]

For Amplifiers you just need to swap in and out of them

[stark magnet]

Yea but without wz buffs, i dont think so

[zealous herald]

What abt tanks?

[carmine reef]

Tank debuff can be applied by attacks including qte, modern tanks also leave a field behind after ulting that continues to apply shred for a certain amount of time
Amp buff is applied whenever you swap between anyone on the team, and the amp's heal buff is applied on heal including qte

[stark magnet]

Oh, empress has one

Nah scree the plasma

[cinder shoal]

I buy these when I get the tokens?

[zealous herald]

So do ppl basically do full rotations with those characters in ppc and wz to keep damage and buffs and debuffs going?

[cinder shoal]

How many do I need? 50? I can currently get 20

[fervent elm]

ALL. Free ss literally

[barren plank]

100 for all 20 shards

The banner gives you 200 tokens anyways, just enough for the shards and cub

[carmine reef]

Wz yes usually
Ppc you usually don't unless you're weak, usually for ppc you focus all your resources on the strongest member and try to burst it down asap

[raw swift]

S5*

[zealous herald]

Ok so I don’t really have to worry about learning an amplifier or tanks kit rn?😭 cuz the only character I know how to play is Lucia pyroath and that’s her dmg output rotation

[raw swift]

Well if u don't count the other banner that costs black cards that is

[fervent elm]

100 ppc skulls is free

[zealous herald]

I bought the pack that gave me 500😭

[fervent elm]

Which pack…..

[zealous herald]

I got pyroath to ss as my first ss character

[carmine reef]

You do have to learn their kits especially given that pyroath is pretty swap mandatory
But empyrea is replaced in a month so that's something

[zealous herald]

The battle pass thing that gives 100 for free but I bought the one under

[brisk bough]

Can anyone tell me what's wanshi LD go to memory set? I've seen so many sets so i am little confused 😅

[carmine reef]

4 liston 4 cjy

[barren plank]

Well you will need to learn eventually depending on the team and its members
But for now so long as you know the rotations for your 2 or 3 main characters that's fine

[cinder shoal]

How many do I need? I bought all I could and now it’s sold out, menu says I need 30 more, how do I get those?

[carmine reef]

You didn't get the base copy already?

[zealous herald]

Ok so the s rank selector is next month, should I get Luna oblivion from it? I have ishmael already and she’s gonna have her sig

[barren plank]

Oh the banner will give you Lilith straight up for free

No need to worry about shards

[cinder shoal]

No 😭 my original question was how to get her, I thought buying the shards was how

[carmine reef]

The free selector next patch only goes up to qu shukra

[brisk bough]

How much does it take to buy all of them

[zealous herald]

Idk why I don’t wanna get epitaph bro😭

[slate forge]

Which one of these is least time consuming?

[carmine reef]

[fervent elm]

Does Qu need DLT to “function” at SS?

[carmine reef]

Yeah

[barren plank]

Do PPC, Warzone, and Norman first cause those are limited time rewards

Oh and CR

Everything else there is permanently available

[stoic rapids]

weather is a term we use to say "stage buff" say a warzone stage has a specific buff for an element of a buff. those are weathers. and we use teams based on what the current wz buffs (weathers) are

[brisk bough]

Help pls

[carmine reef]

You do the missions for free pulls on the perm banner to get her

[cinder shoal]

Oh ok, so I just keep pulling? I have the shards cleared already.

[barren plank]

Depends if you have his weapon or not

[carmine reef]

I answered you immediately bro

[slate forge]

Warzone is done
Need another team for norman 🥀

[brisk bough]

I don't have that for now

[cinder shoal]

Ohh ok. I thought it was like the dorms where u get the shards then craft or whatever

[stoic rapids]

of course. skipping ish bricks void as much as skipping any other element's newest character bricks that element

[barren plank]

4Liston 2Eins

[brisk bough]

Thanks for the help

[raw swift]

ah that I see
that means making teams are quite important based on elements well thanks

[carmine reef]

Very important and not just for the weathers

[stoic rapids]

about this. it's never clear to me when to use eclipse rot and when to use 5ult rot

[barren plank]

Nw
Btw don't use the in game recommendations for build help, just ask here or use the #📨・bot-info channel

[carmine reef]

The enemies also have higher resistance to the wrong element, and many buffs/debuffs apply only to the same element

[stoic rapids]

plasma is really easy now with lilith tho

[carmine reef]

And wz mode itself also heavily punishes wrong element

[brisk bough]

Yeah i saw that but people are lots of builds so i got confused

[chilly trail]

Cw cub work with ion pyro?

[worthy gulch]

ion scores are looking very fked up across the board, we all gotta learn how to use the team properlyt

[carmine reef]

Does technically work

[raw swift]

yes

[fluid gulch]

I blame mob area

[barren plank]

Eclipse is usually the plurality of the rots you do cause it does good damage
5slash is usually in the last 30-45 seconds of warzone where the damage from eclipse rot isnt as "strong" so instead you just do 5slash to spam timestop

[visual topaz]

I blame Schulz

[raw swift]

now how to ion

[stoic rapids]

investment?

[carmine reef]

Eclipse for wave chaining multiple squishy waves cause swordwaves is good for that
Slash for phat waves cause you can fit more into small amt of time for greater dmg density

[chilly trail]

I cant do 5slash too laggy🤡

[raw swift]

333 223 111

[polar flame]

who performs better as ss3? Epitaph, lamia or shukra (next patch grants selector)

[worthy gulch]

maglao got 7.75m wantap on ion with 333 team i think

[fluid gulch]

Question, after Pyro's opening rot I have a bit of downtime before swap cd for Lilith ends, do I just wait it out or what?

[lilac crescent]

do we just use our strongest team for clash reflection or is there elements to take advantage of?

[lucid mountain]

#📨・bot-info

[barren plank]

Lamia SS3 is useless
I would go epitaph cause extra sherd is always nice

[carmine reef]

Pick epitaph or shukra
Neither changes their playstyle
Ss3 wata more shred (benefits team)
Ss3 qu lot more dmg (benefits herself)

[polar flame]

❤️ ❤️

[barren plank]

Oh yea SS3 Qu is really big too im. kinda torn of which one to get

[stoic rapids]

follow empress rota for pyro rot. you can do 2slash1eclipse or 5slash according to wavestate. eclipse for chaining smol waves, 5slash for pushing thru fat waves. lilith battery rot is just 3p3p ult1 hold basic to automatically eat yellows until battery is full then swap off. you start on nana, swap to lilith into pyro then lilith nana pyro onwards. nana does 1 ult rot here and precharges a bit for the 2nd. thats about it

[barren plank]

I feel like Epitaph would have more value but hard to say since both are only used in 1 team

[polar flame]

I heard yall discussed how the ice team would soon become the worst element team

[carmine reef]

At ss invest they both give about the same score gain

[raw swift]

[carmine reef]

For their respective elements

[main prawn]

think ss3 shukra is just dmg increase, no?

[carmine reef]

Yeah but its a lot

[stoic rapids]

needless to say but put lilith on 4dv4guin for this with atk class and not her usual dps set

[fluid gulch]

???

[stoic rapids]

whats your pyro opening rot? cause u shouldnt be having any downtime there

[barren plank]

Swap to nanaknight

[stoic rapids]

and is that ss or ss3 pyro

[raw swift]

ye, done with that already

[fluid gulch]

Empress opening ss3 rot

[raw swift]

tho, imma join on the weekends cuz legend wz

[stoic rapids]

WAIT i have sss nana so my view is skewed. i dont actually know how it looks like without the 3s swap cheat

[fluid gulch]

Damn whels

[stoic rapids]

but then just swap to nana and do her rot? and invert the rotas, so you'll always go lilith pyro nana lilith pyro nana etc etc

[cold walrus]

new ice amp will require sss shukra, otherwise use another qte bot ofc it is speculation, but i'm afraid ice amp will be quite powerful and ss3 shukra won't be good choice. but we still have some time until their release

[carmine reef]

If you start on nana there should only be like 1s downtime if that

[carmine reef]

People who were sure fire amp would powercreep lucia so they could stop getting skill issued by wata:

[stoic rapids]

vera should have been free ....

[fluid gulch]

Shakes wata is actual cancer tbf

[carmine reef]

Nah its dope

[cold walrus]

but lucia wasn't old

[carmine reef]

You just suck at it

[fluid gulch]

I hate, I hate so much

[carmine reef]

Lucia is only a few months newer than qu

[stoic rapids]

1rot shakes wata is chill and vera will let you do that

[fluid gulch]

Yeah, I'm okay with dat

[slate forge]

Do we have full outfit of these characters?..
Excluding dmc characters

[barren plank]

Shakres wata rot is actually not that bad to actually execute but Im probably slow at it

[carmine reef]

Also 1 rot wata only optimal at sss

[barren plank]

Does SS do 1 or 2 rots cause idk

[carmine reef]

You'll still be doing 2 rot at ss team invest

Vera does 1 rot

[barren plank]

Man

[fluid gulch]

Wtf man

[stoic rapids]

to be fair the time gap between qu and lucia would have been more if not for syncro

[carmine reef]

I'm including normal patch time

[chilly trail]

Vera still better with lingya?

[cold walrus]

?

[stoic rapids]

well good thing i have that then

[stoic rapids]

shoulda whaled on uncle

[carmine reef]

Yeah they're only 6 patches apart bro

That's not "old" gap

[stoic rapids]

i think ppl are just traumatised by qu in general

[fluid gulch]

I mean, I'm getting his SS3 next patch, but that's as far as he goes

[carmine reef]

When even the fastest replaced units live for twice that long

[stoic rapids]

i thank syncro for saving me months of solo qu mald

[barren plank]

Oh come on Qu solo wasn't THAT bad

[stoic rapids]

no 1rot for u then

[raw swift]

I'm not, but prolly I'm just a maso

[stoic rapids]

stupid orb mald

[fluid gulch]

bad

[supple helm]

Placeholder team for Pyroath?

Don’t have WT ep and S Liv. Will pull on S Vera

[fluid gulch]

That ain't a few too

[carmine reef]

Use nanami startrail burn mode

[carmine reef]

It really is a few in pgr

[cinder shoal]

How do I unlock stronghold

[broken fox]

would epitaph watanabe be better for the dante team alongside vera or would nanaknight still be better than wata for that team? as im using nana on both the combustion and lightning team so far

[supple helm]

Awesome! What about the third spot ?

[carmine reef]

Ishmael

[stoic rapids]

nana better. nana is THE burn tank. wata is a fire tank. not the same

[main prawn]

nanaknight cuz ignition

[fluid gulch]

Nana is the one who let's Dante do burn dmg

[supple helm]

Not pulling for her 😦

[raw swift]

Nanaknight has the burn affix, Wata won't do nothing there I think

[carmine reef]

Then perish

[barren plank]

uuuuuuuh

[raw swift]

bricked

[fluid gulch]

That's a 🧱

[barren plank]

Wouldn't Ishmael be a lightning amp

[broken fox]

got it, should i get wata for pyroath anyway? or pyroath is better on plasma beam than pure fire?

[carmine reef]

Oh you're right

[supple helm]

Brick 🧱?

[carmine reef]

Alisa placeholder until vera then

[barren plank]

Bro dont just spam brick explain it to him 😭

[fluid gulch]

[stoic rapids]

not the same content. get epitaph if you get the chance he is still very much core for fire

[barren plank]

Generally in this game it's not the best idea to skip any new S-rank units

[cinder shoal]

I got her free, should I build her or focus on improving my other characters

[stoic rapids]

welcome to pgr, we are not skipping anybody unless you are looking for account damage

[raw swift]

Ahh good morning gph

[supple helm]

Noted

[raw swift]

Focus on other characters

[barren plank]

As a F2P, so long as you don't recklessly spend Black Cards then you can afford every new S-rank

[raw swift]

Good afternoon

[carmine reef]

It is the middle of the night for you

[raw swift]

[stoic rapids]

as you progress you will get abundant amount of stamina, please build everybody as you need them. do not worry, there is no long grind (or at least wont be as soon as you get out of like the very early game)

[raw swift]

I'm appealing to the new zealanders

[broken fox]

me spending black cards on nana's weapon and on nana and still losing the 80/20 on the weapon

[carmine reef]

Idt there's a single kiwi here

[barren plank]

oof

[raw swift]

Uhh

[verbal girder]

Hi guys
The dmg difference between Dante and Pyroath is a lot I heard but what's the case between Vergil and Pianissimo?

[raw swift]

I'm busy

[carmine reef]

Just swipe
I offrated nana sig and got it from topup weapon voucher 🐳

[elder cedar]

Hi busy

[barren plank]

Same more or less as Dante and Pyroath

[carmine reef]

I think vergil is even worse no?

[raw swift]

[elder cedar]

Wasnt it like, dante beats pyroach in ignition but not fire
Vergil in TS but not phys

[raw swift]

Yes

[barren plank]

It's like S+ Virgin = 3S Piano

[carmine reef]

We're comparing in base element

[verbal girder]

Oh I see Affix Kings

[cinder shoal]

First 4 is who I have and have tried to build as best as possible, next 3 are who I have but haven’t really touched, and last 2 is who I’m trying to get now, I’m lvl 68 but I’ve taken a couple breaks, and got like 30 lvls at once one time

[verbal girder]

But did we consider that a Pianissimo SS and Vergil SSS comp since we get free copies twice upon pulling...
Is the dmg still same at those ranks or both compared at same rank?

[carmine reef]

They're both inferior at base element, but i recall that vergil's is even worse compared to dante's

[verbal girder]

Also Vergil's banner is cheaper no?

[carmine reef]

You have to pull 3 times for vergil sss

So same cost as selena ss3 which is better

[verbal girder]

Ow

[carmine reef]

Only need to pull 2 times for dante sss

[frank kindle]

where's your nanami

[carmine reef]

Since free dante copy

[stoic rapids]

you can ignore crimson abyss completely, cw can be ignored as well for now, feral can be built and just level her qte and class passive as soon as you get nana startrail. lilith and oblivion you should build as you get them

[verbal girder]

So how strong is Selena SS3 ? 👀

[carmine reef]

Very

[fluid gulch]

Yes

[stoic rapids]

yes

[dusky sail]

should i get nanami weap or ishmael's?

[stoic rapids]

ish

[whole falcon]

ishmael

how good is selena ss3 compared to pyroath

[solemn spoke]

"SS0 R1 Nanami will get you easily to Hero" they said 🥀

"Leader is so easy" they said 💔

[stoic rapids]

yes

[raw swift]

why SS3 where u can sss to make her omega stronk

[raw swift]

It's not too late to change that ishmael build

[carmine reef]

[verbal girder]

Ishmael is really strong and comfy, do I get that level of performance from other new characters?

[cinder shoal]

I think..? I know who u are talking about, I didn’t get her, i was hardly playing at the time due to exams,

[frank kindle]

https://tenor.com/view/skill-issue-smell-jetavie-pgr-punishing-gray-raven-gif-10591488456402950688

[solemn spoke]

🥀 💔

[carmine reef]

SS0 R1 Nanami score should be like 4.5m

[fluid gulch]

I'm not getting her SS3 tho, I'm thinking about getting it through standard banner selector reset

[verbal girder]

You gonna sponsor me?

[raw swift]

Poor guy's in leader, 1.4m is still outrageous tho

[raw swift]

whutdahell 1.4m

[fluid gulch]

wtf is this dude

[cinder shoal]

What should I change? I tried following a guide on Reddit because I didn’t know what to do

[verbal girder]

Not that her copy is free or something.
Always these weird dudes with nonsense

[fluid gulch]

Skill issue my man

[raw swift]

Change einsteina to cottie

[solemn spoke]

💔

[frank kindle]

use cottie

[raw swift]

No not brickes yet

[compact fern]

yo does nanami run dv now in plasma team?or lilith has dv?

[raw swift]

no but @raw swift can

He's only resonated them

[frank kindle]

for builds use /build [frame name] in #📨・bot-info

[carmine reef]

Reddit stays losin

[raw swift]

[carmine reef]

Tale as old as time

[raw swift]

Lilith cause nanami is still somewhat doing relevant damage

[cinder shoal]

Oo ok , ty!

[simple dew]

it is easy you just have skill issue 🥀

[barren plank]

Don't listen in in game recommendations or Reddit
If you are going to use her as a nhil dps then she needs Cottie

[raw swift]

Why are you pulling me into this

[fluid gulch]

Lilith

[opaque ridge]

i need a sponsor too

[compact fern]

what gear on lilith for plasma?4 dv 4 guin?

[stoic rapids]

please refer to #📨・bot-info for your build needs by typing /build and the frame's name. it should give you the information you require. if you still have questions feel free to ask

[fluid gulch]

https://tenor.com/view/gun-loading-gun-cursed-emoji-mad-gif-24853374

[raw swift]

Yes

[frank kindle]

[raw swift]

Hey that's my job

[stoic rapids]

do it faster then

[compact fern]

keeping lilith cub worth or better switch to lingya?

[fluid gulch]

Gph belongs to plebs

[raw swift]

Lingya

[dusky sail]

does alisa need her weap?

[compact fern]

thanks

[compact fern]

yes unusable without

[carmine reef]

Billie only if lilith is main dps

Lingya if she's supporting

[fluid gulch]

Yes, for harmony

[cinder shoal]

Ok, is there any use buying multiple of the same thing? I used like 3000 serum for a mission in the thing so I have a lot of the currency

[raw swift]

Yes but you can't really pull it rn, if you still have the guide mission weapon selector you can get tonitrus instead and use that as a substitute for harmony

[fluid gulch]

Just use tonitrus instead

[cinder shoal]

Oh ok !!!

[raw swift]

Just buy whatever you need

[compact fern]

alisa literally bricked without wp lol since she needs to run 4 signa

cant even use dv bricked run

[raw swift]

Buying in bulk most of the time isn't a good idea since prices are static

[frank kindle]

dont have to buy in bulk since u can use currency to roll reso

[elder cedar]

Cant stop me from buying 100k harmony thingies🥱

[raw swift]

If I have the funds, I'll pull alisa sig

[barren plank]

Wait I feel like Im doing smth wrong in lightning WZ, only got 470w
223 113 111 Oblivion Nana Lilith

[raw swift]

100k harmony tops?

[stoic rapids]

didnt mean this as a shutdown btw. we are happy to help and clarify things, but for basic build info the bot is reliable ( do not use ingame recommended sets and the wiki can be outdated aswell).

[frank kindle]

ingame guides are just troll af

[elder cedar]

The mats used to tie the memory itself, not the one used to unlock the function

[raw swift]

It's time to become innocentliv

[raw swift]

oh, u letting her out of the basement now?

Tada

[bronze bluff]

What uses do I have for this?

[raw swift]

[raw swift]

Resonating memories

[stoic rapids]

@carmine reef is 2wilde supposed to be an upgrade over 4cottie for plasma pyro? i forgot to swap to wilde and upon doing so my score did not really improve so im dubious

[raw swift]

Currency for Simulated Battlefield shop

And other items

[young folio]

isnt that the currency for simulating shop?

[bronze bluff]

Oh okay. Is it better to just use it straight to resonate, or buy 6 star memory shards?

[carmine reef]

The smallest upgrade ever

[raw swift]

Buying memory shards is less efficient than just raw currency points

[bronze bluff]

Oh okay. So I should just go raw

[carmine reef]

My experience was the same at first

[solemn spoke]

you're too innocent now

[raw swift]

Raw is fine

[carmine reef]

Noted

[raw swift]

Don't do it

[stoic rapids]

alr. thankies. one more thing. for r2 nana since dlt is not needed for swap comps do i go matrix or incan along with dd

[cinder shoal]

Is this better?

[raw swift]

[barren plank]

Looks good, just max the memories now

[cinder shoal]

Yeah doing that now, I forgot to

[barren plank]

And try to get the correct resos if possible

[carmine reef]

I still use dlt so i can do fast long

Neither matrix nor incan will be much difference in plasma anyway

[stoic rapids]

fast long? huh

[raw swift]

150 300 stack

[carmine reef]

Fast ult long ult

[stoic rapids]

well same question goes for lightning ig cause i do swap nana there too

[carmine reef]

Same answer

[stoic rapids]

ah you just swap and spam orbs to ult no charge bonk?

[carmine reef]

Ye

[stoic rapids]

hmmmmmmmm

[raw swift]

You still bonk but you hold basic at the start without building stacks

[barren plank]

Hmmm do I R2 my Nanaknight or Echo
Or should I just save my weapons

[carmine reef]

Nanami

[stoic rapids]

thats fine but that wouldnt need orb spam

[carmine reef]

R2 nanami feels good as hell

[stoic rapids]

so then is this zexous' 2nd nana rot within the same swap

[raw swift]

Just 6 total orbs

[barren plank]

Yea that shred is super enticing

[stoic rapids]

but thats doable without dlt

hence my confusion

[carmine reef]

Its same orb consumption, but you generate less orbs in the rot since you aren't basic attacking in first rot

[verbal girder]

One question.
I'm at 58 pity on Limited banner so basically I'll get whoever I need, now the thing is would Collab Banner count these or they come as separate banner?

[barren plank]

Problem is though Im kinda low on resos cause my dumbass decided to R3 my Ishmael

[raw swift]

Seprwtaite

[carmine reef]

You CAN do fast long sometimes without dlt but not reliably

[barren plank]

Separate

[solemn spoke]

echo if you glaze virgin

[verbal girder]

Am dead ...

[supple helm]

@carmine reef , which team would you build here on ? I have the thunderbolt S selector

[raw swift]

I tried no dlt qu and was horrified

[stoic rapids]

idunno i did not feel the need for dlt at all

[solemn spoke]

pyroath

[raw swift]

Zexous always being pinged for questions

[barren plank]

I would go Pyroath

Solacetune also works

[carmine reef]

2x3p yellow slam ult
2x3p yellow ba chain slam ult
For feral weather can also prestack 2x3p but this doesnt work for nanami or cw weather

[carmine reef]

Try doing instant slam on swap in and see how many times you brick without dlt

You'll get it sometimes, but it won't be every time

[tired otter]

Hello, anyone knows if the event R&D tickets, can be used for Dante's and Vergil's banners? Saving what i can, if they can be used too.

[carmine reef]

They can't

Have to convert from bc

Bc they use special collab tickets

[stoic rapids]

aaaaaaaah you do that instead of yellow ba chain slam ult for 2nd. okay. i never did a 2nd round 3p3p for the 2nd rota. interesting. wait is this a rank thing?

[compact fern]

is this possible to do every time for full plasma wz run

without dlt i mean(only r1 either shred or dlt)

[cold walrus]

may someone look how they have enough energy for lilith ult 1 with only 6 pings here? i can't do this and plasma run is ruined https://www.bilibili.com/video/BV1tmPseQEtV/?share_source=copy_web&vd_source=684bfe506d6761aef303ccc8049c7426&t=88

[carmine reef]

With daren i had to alternate between 1 long + prestack, and 1 fast 1 long, because doing full 1 fast 1 long was 1 second timeloss on lucia
Haven't tried ion wz with lilith yet

[compact fern]

pretty sure lilith slower than daren no?

[fresh cairn]

you can go with lilith full plasma rotation -> included her ult, that should be way more easier

[carmine reef]

Shouldn't be the case but we'll see when i actually play it

[compact fern]

daren plasma is insanely fast if u lucky with orb

lilith i always felt slower

[carmine reef]

You technically only need 4 orbs for full charge

Because of matrix

[carmine reef]

Are you doing 1 rot every swap

[sharp valve]

How much bc do we get normally from weekly without the multiple patch updates

[compact fern]

hmm looks like they not even doing 2nd ult on nana.maybe with lilith thats the way

lilith defo slower than daren im sure

[carmine reef]

Oh @cold walrus i didnt see the ult1 part of your msg
You just have to wait a little for the 20 energy proc from hat trick animation

[fresh cairn]

i prefer Lilith's stability don't wanna deal with Daren RNG

[stoic rapids]

for plasma yeah kinda 1.5ish, i dont have much time left before pyro comes back. for lightning i do 2. 3p3p yellow hit once slam ult then yellow basic chain into slam ult again. thats 2 rota

[compact fern]

daren plasma is like 3 sec

[cold walrus]

i need to 3p blue, then wait a little bit, and 3p blue again?

[compact fern]

lilith 5 sec min

[carmine reef]

Nah

[cinder shoal]

How do I get the other 2 to be 6 star?

[elder cedar]

I mean, just half of what youre getting currently

[carmine reef]

2x3b then wait

[fresh cairn]

if you get her ping right at first, if not then 💀

[carmine reef]

You have to wait for the animation after the second 3b, no cancelling

[unreal fjord]

[compact fern]

keep trying enough time youll get it xd

[unreal fjord]

Buying it

[compact fern]

ill try run with both daren and lilith

[cinder shoal]

Where?

[unreal fjord]

Simulation shop

[cold walrus]

thanks, i hope my run unbricks after that info

[compact fern]

lilith seems can only do 1 ult per nana rot

seems big loss

[main prawn]

still not worth the headache of daren orb rng

[fresh cairn]

still RNG

[unreal fjord]

I’m gonna have to do solo wanshin for wz💔

[compact fern]

yea lilith double time than daren lol like 6-7 sec

daren 3 sec

[carmine reef]

You dont need to do full cycle on lilith

[raw swift]

What in the f are you doing where lilith is taking 7 seconds

[carmine reef]

4 yellow is enough to stack plasma. You dont need to ult either

Literally just 4 yellow and swap

[ripe stag]

So
Where's my Punishing Star Rail

[compact fern]

if i run daren i can put shred reso on daren and dlt on nana insta ult 1 every rot easy

[elder cedar]

Too busy punishing the star rail

[compact fern]

actually seems better than lilith now that i think about it

[elder cedar]

[carmine reef]

Refer to this

[main prawn]

daren cope

[compact fern]

do you have run?

[carmine reef]

No

[raw swift]

Lilith no need dlt then

[fresh cairn]

Why he have to do that ?

[raw swift]

Do what

[fresh cairn]

about pan peko question

[compact fern]

wut

[raw swift]

Daren is far more inconsistent with ion

[carmine reef]

She doesn't need dlt but i think with dlt you could save like half a second by not waiting for hat trick animation lol

[raw swift]

Your run is fcked if you don't have red pings on daren

[compact fern]

so on lilith 2 3 ping wait ult 1 4 yellow ping enough for plasma?still feels long will test

[main prawn]

i can save my sanity by not using daren

[stark dove]

what's the plasma rotation for pyroath ss3 dlt? is it supposed to be much shorter than her fire one?

[carmine reef]

Just put lucia on blue probably

Cause lilith hold atk will trigger qtes

[fresh cairn]

please just tell us you addict to gambling no way Daren RNG feel good at all

[compact fern]

lmao qte nuke yea got ss3 lucia

[carmine reef]

So you'd have to cast lucia qte and wait for it before swap lol

Not even abt the nuke just not delaying the swap

[compact fern]

hmm

[carmine reef]

I hated this abt daren too

[simple dew]

you can just qte while holding atk

[carmine reef]

Qte takes longer than the time it takes to charge

[peak halo]

okay that totaly gringe cr

[carmine reef]

And you're not using lilith ult into swap

[compact fern]

but with lilith 2 ult on nana seems very unlikely ngl.pyroath will be up ages before

i need see an actual lilith plasma run i think

[ripe stag]

Guys

YOROKOBE! WANSHI NOT ABLE TO RELOAD HIS GUN BUG IS BACK

[icy sleet]

im thinking of getting the chars needed to complete a team, by that idea all my chars are gonna be s rank should i use a team rotation or use the sup/tank as a qte bot? since seems like reaching ss is mandatory to do most of the video guide rotation and its gonna take a long time for me who is quite new

[wary thicket]

Why when I'm going from Lilith to lucia in plasma wz
She is already in her blue orb form it is messing up the rotation

[raw swift]

Because you're ulting

Ulting on lilith activates plasma and thus puts lucia in plasma form too

[wary thicket]

So I should not ult huh

[peak halo]

it get fixed

[raw swift]

Not really

[compact fern]

yea 2 ult nana with lilith impossible u only get like 1 sec extra after ult 1

[fading kestrel]

the instant the plasma gauge has a 1 on it, you swap off of lilith

[stoic rapids]

should we even be ulting on lilith? at the start of the rota before battery is up since her ult is alraedy up anyway from the previous rot but it's dark dmg so not like it's gonna do much

[fading kestrel]

but it has to stay gray

[raw swift]

As far as i know you shouldn't really ult on lilith

[wary thicket]

Got it @fading kestrel
And wht about the 2 times nana ult being talked about
Does tht changes up the rotation

[compact fern]

yea ulting on lilith wastes lucia uptime

daren better see

[raw swift]

No

[fading kestrel]

you just go nana to fill time between the swaps, so that the rot is more smooth

[compact fern]

with daren u ult with nana twice with lilith only once

[raw swift]

Lilith should take like 4-5 seconds on the first activation

[keen horizon]

is this permanent?

[raw swift]

Yes

[simple dew]

can you replace nanami for arclight

[fading kestrel]

until you get the reward once, yes

[wary thicket]

@compact fern so I can just do the full ult with nana or fast ult without the 4 basics?

[raw swift]

I mean yes... But why

[fading kestrel]

i am going to replace you for a better guild member

[wary thicket]

Also after 1 ult on nana do I have to get the 1 plasma mark again from Lilith

[compact fern]

imo the 1 sec wait after lilith 2x3ping for ult is the most useless thing ever lol

[simple dew]

[compact fern]

of course

[raw swift]

Crazy how you don't have to wait next rot

You impatient little bastard

go back to wuwa

[keen horizon]

I suppose I should be getting Luna Oblivion here if I'm pulling Ishmael right?

[raw swift]

Eh not really

From standard assuming you get nanami startrail here you should get lucia pyroath

[simple dew]

im irreplacable

[raw swift]

No you're not

[barren plank]

How long is Lilith QTE?

[raw swift]

It's about 1-7 seconds

[barren plank]

[raw swift]

Idk exactly how long but that should be the lower-upper bound

[wary thicket]

Bruh now I'm somehow lacking the initial 3 points on lucias bar
Wtf happened

[deft apex]

Cant u just count it

[fading kestrel]

are you doing basic immedietly upon swapping in

[simple dew]

swap in basic 3 reds basic

[raw swift]

You're not swapping when there's an enemy present

[barren plank]

I mean like to the hundreths

[fading kestrel]

the elpers are fighting

[raw swift]

It happens to me on Lilith's first rot since lilith kills and if I swap too early i swap into the middle of nowhere

[wary thicket]

@raw swift I guess Lilith wipes everyone by the time her 1 stack is up lol
I'll try to adjust

[deft apex]

Yea I bet no one here knows that

[raw swift]

If lucia doesn't detect an enemy she won't have a 3stack

[barren plank]

Yea they stopped updating the QTE sheet a long time ago so Im clueless

[fossil urchin]

How do you guys play on PC?

[raw swift]

Will you adjust for me bbg

[wary thicket]

Does anyone know how the 5 times fast ult works
Spider mentioned it but didn't elaborate lol

[fading kestrel]

skill?
well, theres one common issue people have with mkb, cause you have to press Y for you to be able to use your mouse

but i find it chill

[raw swift]

You spam slash ult

I don't know if it's possible at ss0 since I haven't tried but

[wary thicket]

I do have ss3
But the worry was the plasma goes off around the 2 to 3rd

[cold walrus]

https://youtu.be/xgstePgAEnc?si=7TY7TO7KDPlF2uzq&t=155

[wary thicket]

Nice I'll check it out

[cold walrus]

@wary thicket https://youtu.be/A9ite2VJgMQ?si=Ffqr_ITGsG8rNPI5&t=221 this too

[wary thicket]

For some reason I already have watchtime on both lol
Looks like I just ignored it at tht time since I didn't have the full team

[compact fern]

i changed pyraoth rot for lilith now lilith can ult fine i can still do full pyroath combo in time elystare

[compact fern]

this is sss or above pyroath pretty sure

[cold walrus]

works for ss3 too, but need slightly more pings between actions

[compact fern]

pyraoth cant spam fast ult at low ranks

[compact fern]

ye slightly more pings will cost u plasma uptime

not possible so same thing

[cold walrus]

not really

[compact fern]

no way ss3 doing 5 fast ult lol

[hazy sandal]

What if I tell you that ss0 is also able to 5ult

[cold walrus]

you have enough time for 5 ults at ss3

[hazy sandal]

[cold walrus]

devil don't ruin their delusions

[hazy sandal]

【［战双］低配电束进阶实战教学，2s0誓焰五斩，22.32.3电束队批发传奇电束区740w-哔哩哔哩】 https://b23.tv/1JAJfQV

No. Learn it.

[vale raft]

Lilith: Daemonissa <:s_rank:1287636749052412026><:amplifier:1290613387197415467><:dark_element:1290613554923438102><:electroconvergence:1288090218922119181>

Plasma Affix Support Set

Usage

Support Sub-DPS

Game Modes

PPC, Intensive Battle, Warzone

Description

Recommended for all ranks
Plasma Affix Support Set

Memories

4x Da Vinci
2x Guinevere

Memory Resonances

Top Slot : 6x Any ATK+15 Variant
Bottom Slot: 6x Class Skill

Harmony Recommendation

Guinevere

[spiral merlin]

help

[orchid bolt]

What memory set should I be running on cw since she’s gonna be a qte bot for my ss startrail?

[sand laurel]

me so poor, only 200

[tame pier]

How to farm serum bundle

[worthy gulch]

maglao, what should we be aiming for in ion 333 team

[regal ledge]

ive tried it and can get up to 4

[sand laurel]

https://tenor.com/bBHKW.gif

[regal ledge]

maybe need to fix some rots

[worthy gulch]

i see that u got 8.5 already

[tame pier]

Wdym maam/sir?

[spiral merlin]

8.5m and higher

ye

i just did 5slash the entire time

so its prob suboptimal

5slash is my go to comfort rota

for turning my brain off

[worthy gulch]

alright so 8.5m as baseline and prob 9m with some proper maldinng

how about light 333 but with ish instead of feral

[long copper]

Is there a guide how to most efficiently speedrun the alternative interpretations? I cleared all the endings, I just wanna know how to optimise score/time.

[worthy gulch]

ah damn but ur nana is sss3 and cw sss6

[unborn hound]

@frank kindle u got the text version of ion lucia rot?

[spiral merlin]

maybe 8m or so idk

[long copper]

Why do you hate Qu Shukra btw?

[spiral merlin]

i dont have good people to reference for a lot of invests anymore since most kiwi

or went f2p

[flint nest]

Who needs their weapon more ishemal,pyroath,nanami or hanying ?

[cold walrus]

idk, but i got 8.4m solo nanami. probably 9m if proper swapping

[magic violet]

Overreliance on her sig probably

[raw swift]

Here we go

Where's the disstrack

[olive shale]

does ishmael absolutely need ss

[raw swift]

Yes

[raw swift]

It's between pyroath and ishmael ngl

[worthy gulch]

game is fkin dying

[worthy gulch]

WTf 8.4m with nana solo?!?!?!

[long copper]

EoS soon

[cold walrus]

https://youtu.be/9_SnxRDn7tQ

[worthy gulch]

what on earth is that lilith luna tech

[raw swift]

It's called efficiency

[cold walrus]

luna converts buffs and debuffs into omni element

[flint nest]

So basically

[worthy gulch]

if ish is 3s, would it be better to use luna ish nana instead of lilith?

[flint nest]

Lucia?

[cold walrus]

nah cuz lilith has higher heal buff

[raw swift]

Kinda

[worthy gulch]

also wtf u got a s+ wanshi too?

[cold walrus]

in sunday

i ran out of vouchers

[raw swift]

Whel

Aiming for sss+??!!?!

[worthy gulch]

i swear one would think the devs are giving out s+ wanshi for free looking at these accs

[long copper]

Isn't wanshi free tho?

[raw swift]

https://tenor.com/view/hood-irony-car-funny-gif-10465071861430427949

[worthy gulch]

fk it im getting mine to 3s6, cant compete like this

[carmine reef]

s+ isn't

[worthy gulch]

u get wehat i mean

[cold walrus]

s+ wanshi is relatively cheap

[olive shale]

is there a place to farm ishmael shards outside of the 20 warzone cost

[raw swift]

Mk whale I'm all ears

[carmine reef]

what

[raw swift]

That's like 144k shards

[carmine reef]

there's nowhere to farm ish shards other than ppc

[raw swift]

From sss-s+

[cold walrus]

wdym? buy every bp and don't waste vouchers on leapt units like cw

[olive shale]

i need 3 more to hit ss, does it refresh in the shop next week?

[carmine reef]

no

[olive shale]

lol damn

[carmine reef]

you get exactly enough for ss

[olive shale]

oh wth

[raw swift]

20 warzone?

[carmine reef]

30 shards from ppc

[olive shale]

i might have missed a week or something...

[carmine reef]

idk what you're talking about with wz, you don't get shards from wz

[raw swift]

Getting free sss from ppc would be wild

Actually no it wouldn't even be worth

[olive shale]

no no, those skull currency is from ppc i guess, i confused it

ok yeah i still have 3 to buy, all good

[orchid bolt]

What memory set should I be running on cw since she’s gonna be a qte bot for my ss startrail?

[barren plank]

Does ur Nanaknight have DLT?

[orchid bolt]

She does yeah

[olive shale]

lilith doesnt need to go beyond ss?

wait does anyone need to go beyond ss

[carmine reef]

sss is ideal, at least get her to ss3

she's voucherable and you base copy for free, plus you get 20 extra shards for free on top of the 30 ppc

so ss3 is literally 7 voucher shards

[olive shale]

i also did the skin gacha thing

[carmine reef]

💀

[olive shale]

yeah idk what im doing lol

[carmine reef]

mistakes were made

[raw swift]

Wait wrong persona

[carmine reef]

also that skin is literally in the free shop next patch

[stark dove]

Can an amplifier use Domain Deconstruction, or do those only work on tanks?

[olive shale]

vera is always the right persona

[carmine reef]

USUALLY only tanks, but ish can use DD in amp mode bc she has access to both pools all the time

[raw swift]

Do I look like vera

[stark dove]

thanks

[raw swift]

[olive shale]

no, but vera spoke to me through you it seems

[forest crag]

Do they have the same rewards, or does the Ultimate Zone give more? Which one should I pick ?

[raw swift]

Do I vera or do I liv 🤔

[raw swift]

Ultimate gives more if you're competent enough

[olive shale]

…am i misunderstanding %s, shouldnt ishmael be listed as 33% off, not 67? And the others as 67?

[compact fern]

yo bruh why wanshi cant load his gun

[carmine reef]

you're not misunderstanding, kuro just wrote it wrong

[olive shale]

classic kuro

[carmine reef]

it's the same with the voucher discount lol

[raw swift]

Why do they even have that fake discount anymore just get rid of it

[carmine reef]

and why do they write a discount on the wz usbs when you literally can't get lower than 50% off lmao

scam ass company smh my head

[olive shale]

is there time to accumulate 15000 event r&d tickets between now and vera banner

[carmine reef]

probably not

well

[olive shale]

well, i guess i go to the alternative roguelike mines, i havent really touched those

[carmine reef]

close

but it's selena AND vera banner so

[olive shale]

vera is a must, selena eh...im gonna assume she's important to meta?

[carmine reef]

they're both a must

||if anything selena would be more important||

[olive shale]

blasphemy

i guess ill work a few hours overtime

[worthy gulch]

devs tryna give us anl prolapse fr

[carmine reef]

and that was the last day j taro was seen in pgro

[hexed plume]

How to unlock sons of Sparda characters in the game?

[olive shale]

wait till august

[hexed plume]

But I've seen people are still playing on YouTube, so how c9me?

[olive shale]

CN server is ahead

[spiral merlin]

Fake fomo is crazy

[mental path]

js say dmc bro

[hexed plume]

Dmc

[olive shale]

lol, i liked the reference bud, dw about it, that's a true dmc fan

[hexed plume]

I you tricked me nothing changed i just came back from the game

[mental path]

?

[hexed plume]

I sa8d dmc and nothing happened, how rude of u

[raw swift]

YOU HAVE BEEN BLESSED WITH THE SPARDA BROTHERS VIRGIN AND DONATE!

[main prawn]

[hexed plume]

I'm a huge fan of DMC ya know I just downloaded this game for them not random waifs characters ya know

[raw swift]

Type 1 to claim your reward

[hexed plume]

Waifus***

[raw swift]

These random waifus have some pretty neat development

I applaud Lucia's development

[hexed plume]

They are just randomly strangers for know reasons just cus they are waifus but not their history

[waxen vine]

Foolishness

[hexed plume]

Strongers***

[spiral merlin]

https://tenor.com/view/buzz-lightyear-gif-21327280

[simple dew]

how much does it cost to voucher 60 shards

[feral pollen]

48k

[hexed plume]

Not her but her father

[mental path]

how old are u bro

[hexed plume]

3 why?

[waxen vine]

in the world of pgr she is vergil

[mental path]

curious

[hexed plume]

Yo respect vergil

[stark magnet]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/867995160854806588/1365656487107760190/XkLTBDqczMtDp4Ul_mp4_V1-ezgif.com-optimize.gif

[hexed plume]

Don't tell me u like shota 😶‍🌫️

[waxen vine]

i'm about to brick my account bigger than anyone has just for vergil so i think i already put some respect in his name