#📨・meta-help
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Glacio
forgot about that lol
Wanshi hypercarry 
ATK : 132
DEF : 223
CRIT : 66
HP : 1491
ATK : 132
DEF : 223
CRIT: 66
HP : 1491
You almost get bait 
ss3 selena is 30k bc
s+ virgin is... 73.5k bc if my math serves right
That's gonna be a hard no from me dawg
94 500
40 quadrillion dollars to kuro games
still 2 copies...
I mathed out their rots and his non optimal 6s combo can do around 90% of Pyroath's damage in fire
atp go sss pyroath and keep free dante
I got my SSS 3 resos characters with 75K 
So, better SSSelena
I mean you can get SS3 Startrail and SSS Dante for stonks 

Selena is just broken
is ss0 to ss3 huge? startrail
for whom?
Or sss nanaknight 
Specifically for solo ignition and the usual tank stuff
Super versatile unit tho
Covers alot of zones
Ignition don't even have any content until dmc wym solo ignition 
what about selena and Vera heard selena ss3 is especially good for glacio allegedly
Selena SS3 2nd best in the game
besides Pyro?
Ye
yup those 2 have the strongest easily
I got ss3 pyro just for plasma
Can't wait to test full build SSS Dante to her
I see but man getting ss3 definitely needs a swipe or 2
what are echoe's memory resonance
just get ss3 from the base banner reset every year
Dante SSS is 21k vs 30k which is why I say he's worth
not me getting ss3 pyro in 41 pulls
trying to get ss3 from actual pulls is like an extra 3 levels of spender above
as if the frames stay relevant that long 
just expect plasma beam scores to go 📉
(no fck scire)
it's not really a problem of how long they're relevant though
just hoard your tickets and decide when the reset happens, who you want to ss3
obviously don't keep the same plan for a whole year
yh
This is a great argument actually. Though units are designed for their effects, simply capable to substitue for other zones Like dante and fire when he's just burn unit
Ss3 Qu
hoard tickets sounds like bricking or am I wrong
Glaciation Affix Set
Glaciation Affix Support
PPC, Intensive Battle, Warzone
Glaciation Affix Set
Recommended for all ranks
4x Da Vinci
2x Guinevere
Top Slot : 6x Any ATK+15 Variant
Bottom Slot: 6x Class Skill
Guinevere
blue tickets...how is it brick to hoard them
Startrail alone already scores well enough tbh
oh blue mb
Guys whos stronger lightning team or phys?
Lightning
because?
Lack of Pyroath
agree that's why it's my fav
So solactune sign or nanaknight sig?
With selena it will be getting better?
People that skip Pyroath for Dante will just get lower ion scores
though she still needs a team. Dont think she carries Nihil, in plasma zone vs actual players with Plasma teams
you think plasma is finished and won't get someone to replace anytime soon?
Nana
will get better yea
fundamental issues with the element still remain though
most people aren't competing with the whales to begin with tbh
So phys team with selena or lightning team with nana whos better and stronger
Startrail good enough to keep yourself in hero and that's what matters
There are only like 20 good whales in this game
but legend🥀 💔
Everything else can be achieved with SS3 characters

doubt it... nihil, physical, ice, fire zones exist, even dark where nanami is weaker
tbh Dante and Vergil's teams are right behind Ion
Why 30k
Is that for pyroath?
?
fund me pls
SS3 Pyroath whom SSS Dante is comparable to
You would only need 15k no?
Huh
Is Daemonissa on field dps?m
Why are we comparing ss3 pyroath with sss dante again
Am i talking to myself
I just woke up
Dante is that cheap to SSS
I mean yeah?

But what are we comparing to for pyroath ss3 and dante sss
Ignition dps or something?
what is generally good team with her?
Just as damage comparisons usually
ice and dark are covered by free characters, Selena for physical and glacio (rosetta can be used as cope), Nihil are characters you want anyway due to their niches and versatility
Any tank with 4 pc bathlon and 2 einsteina, any support or Selena Cappriccio with 2 pc guinevere and 4 da vinci.
Depends on who you actually have
talking about how cost efficient it is to use Dante vs pyroath at levels of investing considering going all in on Dante would mean low ion scores and how good Dante is in general
Depends
I am not really sure how that would works, but sure i guess

Why is this sounds like a cope conversation
I don't know about yall but I'm prepared to 🧱 
Ignition ice amplifier 🔥 🔥
I mean sure
wedding coating and tsubricki are a must
As long as you are not taking people along with your brick plan, i do not mind it much
another weak ice amp for ice team? 
always pull on fate banners
anything I'll take anything
I do not think you should be saying that even fi it was just playing around
someone knocks at my door I'm dead already
We get many newbies coming in here recently and the chance that they take it seriously is not zero
IF U ARE A FILTHY NOOB DON'T LISTEN TO WHAT I SAY!!!
aight
I do not really like seeing newbies getting trolled around, some of them are genuinely asking
rank
@frigid moth i cannot do last ishmael stage with the setup you told me
Was in Legend earlier but I got doused in a sea of whales so back to me being Hero 
yikes atleast you witnessed it
How many hp bars left after you finish your 3rd rot?
let me see
how do i get past level 400?
I got demoted to leader
run them with different teams
I do not have Oblivion for Nihil Warzone last week
ohhh ok
I missed her debut because i was not playing at the time
is it bad to run dark team without karenina?
or lilith and lamia are enough?
becaused i beat hyperreal with my void team that had karenina on and ishmael as amp
You can use Parhelion along with Lamia and Daemonissa to be a dark tank
there's enough zaza you can run to buff lilith
Lilith is strong enough to solo babel
i already said i used karenina on my void team to beat hyperreal in the highest difficulty
Parhelion can provide you off field resistance reduction just like Scire thermal field
Well in that case i would not know
ok time to lock in
nevermind i made some mistakes
I think even solo Daemonissa can clear the babel
it works
yeah that sounds more reasonable
please censor w*rk it almost gave me a heart attack
Yeah overall Dante performs much better in Vergil in their respective elements
Vergil's main damage is ultima slash
Dante has actual proper split scaling like Pyroath
NEW ICE AMP BELIEVER JUST DROPPED WE WILL WIN
-next patch is half anni
-ice team hasn't gotten an update the longest
-ice team is the worse team rn in cn
-ayla kaleido is the 2nd oldest unit that hasn't been replaced
-cn needs a saving patch after vera and dmc bros (3 s rank in a row)
-saving patches are free s ranks or a ranks
-most amps are usually free units
CONCLUSION: KALEIDO IS DEAD
Vergil gets edgy badass storm is approaching motivational clouds in isolation points
work
What if levi was pregnant?
blocked.

also second highest scoring team rn
note the word team he isnt gonna do much without proper teammates
hanying is carrying ig
I'm so ready
Hanying seems to carry due to how much Vergil does off field
SSS Off field Vergil kinda goes crazy
Somebody in general chat freaked out over this image because of sophia
wdym
Pinged a mod and said she was "nak*d"
...
Then started calling people you know what
that's literally the game tho lmfao
Rosetta is technically nak*d 
send this to him next time
I dont know how this automod works
well technically they are constructs with artificial skin🥀 💔
Im gonna do it batman
Oh thank god, finally no art splish splish splash character
brick man is real?
by 3 seconds vergil's rot is 7 seconds
Im briiiickeed
what's your superpowers
SSS vergil
damn
Fk Selena
Join me in 🧱 
atp SSS and sig +cub both
Lmao Unc Dante good with the kids and Motivated Vergil and his figure 8's
Definitely a pattern here
Weak
I'm saving 75k bc to sss Vergil and Dante
Atleast Vergil can carry ultima slash unlike balter
well
I joined during Echo patch of my own volition
75k weak I'm saving 85k for full invest
An extra 10k for CUBs 
good thing they give Dante for free but ngl they also could have given one Vergil
wdym
im sss with cub and weapons for both
they're brothers and equal
how do you need 10k more
They don't even do that in DMC 
yeah still
Issa running inside joke
84k assuming you lose 80/20 on the second weapon
the pull discount from 250 to 175 is already diabolical
and the first two being double
Plus the 2 free copies you get from pulling
some cn mfer said if you lose you get the other brothers weapon
That's why I said second weapon
If you win first one but lose second one you'll still have to pull
imagine winning the first weapon pull but loosing the 2nd weapon pull 💀
oh wait fck u right
I don't even want to try my luck 💀
so the best outcome is to lose first
yeah 84k is the absolute highest it can be
Exactly
oh
my 75k assumes best possible outcome 💀
Losing first guarantees you win
That should be enough for luck to take the wheel at some point especially with discounted banner
How tf do you save 84k just do nothing ever
well
im also considering the forbidden fate banner to save a Lil 
Monthly + BP 
Commitment, Focus, and sheer will
and that
im f2p
Manifesting it
only ever bought coatings
X
next patch I'm snagging that startrail coating
same
stacking the 3 monthlies next patch might not be the worst idea
9900bc for 15$ pretty solid
go for coatings and profit from spending events 
never
try and force me
Have someone calculated the amount of BC we get IN THAT dmc event.
think it's like 11k but I might be wrong
it doesn't count as a double patch? rough
Dmc? Single patch
its definitely a doubke patch with whatever comes after
oof
I mean the patch itself
we don't know yet
in cn?
Not our glb patch
Patch itself only gives 1x rewards if you're talking about cn
Yea its what I meant
if dmc isnt a double patch im drawing vergil pregnant
Is this a threat or an incentive
Vergil Leap, trust 🙏
what team can i do
McDonald's drive thru
Teddy unironically better than everyone there lmao
where feral at she was also free?
No she's meant to be a support
She still does more dps than everyone you have there with the exception of Crimson Weave
I'm referring to what they have lol
biggest priority should be getting lilith from the perm event and lucid dreamer from dorm commissions
Pull on Ishmael's banner to get her
Member target select Startrail and only use Blue cards here
ok thanks
also for 6 star wep if you haven't selected one yet choose tonitrus
where do i get 6 star wep
i got one and a nightblaze in one ten pull at 0 pity
should be where you got luna
SSS on teddy is crazy lmfao
I mean she's the only A rank worth anything lmao
If you click on the weapon and click obtain it will tell you how
Usually the weapon shards or pulling em
also is she worth having in account
Agreed, I think shes at S or SS for me rn
Yes very much so
SS I think ye
go all in on her she's literally god of course she is
The DPS on her is crazy indeed
I just started the game what should I choose from my s rank omniframe choice?
What are the options again
SS3 is the best stopping point on her, best early unit in the game to stave away the boredom of using the gen 1s
Will still see practical use with lilith as a guin bot
Ye I just focused SSS on ishmael first :^) but I have been passively working on Teddy
wait wha-
It says lee-entropy, live-luminance, kamui-tenebrion, karenina-ember and nanami-pulse
Spender
ah gotcha
:p
I'm personally saving for that DMC collab
Hmmmm luminance is a good support to have imo, im pretty sure that was my pick
I'll SSS whoever I want next anniv
Tenebrion
My partner was too, but then he realized they’re both physicals and was like “i donT NEED A PHYSICAL”
Ez da vinci slave for lilith
Only Vergil is Phys tho
He wanted vergil :p
@frigid moth why? What he do?
Well technically not really Phys, since 90% of his attacks are TS-scaling
Dante is Fire and Ignition and Vergil's main source is slash
If you wanna use Vergil as a Phys Unit, Solacetune would unironically do more dmg than him
Ah ye i forgor that for dante
He's good to pair up with lilith since otherwise you need SSS XXI to shred
What else would he be good for then if not for phys? /genuine
Just Trueslash, which is his Affix
Luminance isn't worth since Echo is free from dorm
@frigid moth who lilth ?
ULTIMA SLASH
there is no choosing she's free
Ok
Free af
And on a smaller degree, Dante is also mostly only good for Ignition (his Affix)
ive always hated the name true slash
But his situation is at least a bit better than Vergil
You'll get her with wep, CUB, and 20 shards at no cost just by playing the game
Devastating slash
But it's mostly cuz Dante's teammates are fcking busted (Nanaknight and Geiravor)
Significantly better his damage at SSS is comparable to SS3 Pyroath in fire
Better than Ultima Slash tho 
How much dmg does Vergil do as a character , no typings involved
So if there was NO extra dmg buffs to a certain typing
and his teamates for both his roles are just cracked
What is the qte bot build for Lilith dark ppc if she is sss
Whe. Is dmc coming
2nd highest in the game right behind full build ion
@feral flame
Ok thats all I needed to know
Lilith is main dps in dark you mean the other qte bots?
Burn has the highest score tho, it's not Ion anymore sadly
Oh she is?
Burn just got 19.2m in CN it's insane
@storm linden Yes?
What if everyone is sss
Shiiii I have to update the guidebook then
Sorry the message got deleted
Go to #📨・bot-info channel and type / roadmap with no space
But yes if Lilith is main dps what is lamia qte bot build
Makes sense tho, it has Nanaknight and Geiravor in it 
The Best Tank
and
The Best Amp
Feat. Dante from Devil May Cry
Feat the goat fr

If that's the case Dante's fire potential might be slightly greater than SS3 Pyroath since his scaling is split in a similar way to pyroath unlike Vergil whose pure ultima slash
Oh this is good to know. I was hesitant cause I am liking pyroath rn
You don't use lamia as qte bot
Ah yes it’s been like 2 weeks since I played pgr 
for new players who don't have pyroath, Dante is a respectable choice since his SSS is only 21k
Lilith just does way too much damage for the others to even matter for ppc
Teddy better than lamia imo for ppc
Im new so i only have pyroath at S, and was gonna invest in evolving her after i was done building my nihil team. So will def have to think about it
Ishmael build cottie top or bottom?
She's still BiS for ion
BiS?
Ah ty sorry
As someone who never got Pyroath this is good news
Now idk how I am gonna save enough BC for Vergil + dante + all their weapons and CUBs 💔
cottie bottom almost always
how good is ion without scire
infinitely better with lilith
We have Lilith now so Scire is irrelevant
lilith pyro and who else
Nanaknight
depends on invest, 21k for SS3 Dante and SS Vergil, 15k for weps, and 10k for CUBS
My glorious Sagemachina
Well I am currently at 18K so lets see what happens
next patch will give the most amount of bc in the game so there's definitely headroom especially since we have until August to save
Pog
And the DMC collab patch itself should hopefully give some BC too so imma keep coping
atleast 11k
Oh nice
Do u also have a number for next patch
It's ALOT
Asking for a friend.
What happens if I get a coating for a character I dont have but intend to get?
Real af name

You will have the coating but not the character 
Sounds good 😅
I also have a ton of story and events that I havent even touched yet so I am hopefull
Only reason I got Scire lol
I think I should start doing 1 story chapter a day next patch
My summer vacation just started hooray
Should catch up for dat BC
If you haven't touched the story you should have enough for atleast the weapons and CUBs
🔥
Hoping for the same type of luck that one guy who got 2 Vergils first multi had 😂
I'm ready to fight luck itself with the power of 🧱 
Gonna throw a brick at Kuro HQ if I don't get lucky 
fr hope I have bc to spare post DMC
The fact that T3 BPs are basically useless in DMC is... painful
Cuz their banners use a different ticket
Damn I actually need to promote next wz
who in here should you pick?
the week after is disaster
nanami startrail
its from this
atleast it means I don't have to skip
should be able to get the rest of the event cards I need from spending event next patch
all bc I earn will be saved for DMC
Oblivion or Pyroath or Solacetune
Startrail
Honestly can't say which one would be a better pick
Yeah Nanaknight too
Newbies have so much to catch up on 🥲
Dante can be comparable to pyroath so that leaves solacetune, oblivion, and startrail. Out of those 3 startrail needs the weapon the least and is the most versatile unit in team comps
True
for a rank up Bridget next
does anyone know what happened recently that gave out 61 serum that expires on the same day? i saw it in my inventory and am comfused
idk but might as well use all the stamina next patch don't drop until 4 weeks
i'll use it on its expiry day
Which effect should i use on lightning team? Ignition or darkflow?
Doesnt rlly matter
Coz ur gonna be doing lightning dmg nor ignition or darkflow
But if u were to choose one then choose ignition
👍
guys what weapon resonance should i use for ishmael
Which one should I select as a rate up ?
dont pull there
just get oblivion
oblivion but it doesnt matter because that banner is mid anyways
So dont pull ok
if you get lucky with the free pulls from the login event getting oblivion would be good
but dont pull on the 70% banner
wouldnt recommend backpulling unless you got a wallet
what's a t3 bp
The Paid BP that gives Themed Character Banner tickets
What about the base one with all these charcters
nanami startrail
She's the best one what does she do
for newbies yes
yes
for all players
What does she do
lightning tank and main dps and tank for ion and ignition and cope tank for fire
she does damage and debuffs enemies
she is in 3 meta teams
She's overall the best in her role (Tank)
She's the newest tank too so
Makes sense
She also quadruples down as cope burn dps if u miss dante
ishmael
Doesnt count, ish is Observer 
Which by its own is quite mid tbh
Meanwhile cope Trueslash DPS:
is every supply pack with limit 2 supposed to be 1 but only 2 because of sync? so next patch every limit 3 is actuallly 1 in a normal patch?
just curious
What are u even talking about 😭
like are sync patch the reason why supply packs get increased limits
yeh
so like everything gets either doubled or tripled in sync patches
bp/mp purchases, whel packs and all get to be able to be purchased 2/3x yeh
damn the whale ceiling is crazy
so if ur wondering why some whels and spenders are pissed about sync, this is why
nothing is discounted
normal whales would have to spend doubles or triples the amount in a single patch instead of normally
good time to be a light spender
trap
startrail is utterly busted so go for her through member target, if banner is 70% it's a trap don't pull
also 2 of those options in 70% would brick your account so not worth
Is there any way to get 50 basic construct pulls on a level 70 acc?
You got a bunch in the beginning but I feel like there is barely any way to get them now
You will have enough
Basic cards aren't something you rush
Ye I just kinda want a new char
But I already got Ishmael this patch so I'm really low on pulls
got lilith from her event yet?
I did 40 pulls but didn't get her
I did her trial tho and don't like her playstyle at all
on her what?
P-please buff vergil kurogames kun... 😳
Ok I was worried for a sec lol
In any case Lilith is one of the most versatile units along with Startrail and Gera
Gera?
Oh a new vera?
She didn't release yet right?
not yet
near the end of june
I kinda wanted to get Lucy Pyroath from the selector or basic banner
Do you have plans on DMC?
how much copy of cub do you need to upgrade it from S to SSS?
Couldn't care less about the collab
I do wanna get pianissimo tho maybe
Haven't seen her gameplay yet
Startrail from member target and Pyroath from thunderbolt research then
I didn't really like Startrail to be honest
She's literally part of Pyroath's best team along with Lilith
Ye I saw that but I'm just here for the story and events
also ngl she fun af when you have invested teams for her
Ishmael is one of my faves to use rn due to all the different rots she has
I'll try her trial again
Is Thunderbolt research permanent
Cause I really dont have enough pulls this patch for member target and the Thunderbolt research
Yes it's perma
there's no rush
Thank god
member target you only use blue cards anyway
Next patch gives alot of blue cards from what I remember
Btw how do you get those?
In the beginning there was that goal & tutorial thing but since than I barely got any
I'll be able to ss3 my hanying
operation guardians and sync weeklies
Thanks
same that's exactly what I have it saved for too
You don't rush member target unless you want to brick
Usually
Ye im just impatient
I came back 2 days ago after quitting the game and really want some new stuff
you could try getting some of the different a ranks to play around with
Yata, bridget, and teddy especially all fun af
I build Teddy already and I just started building Yata today but im fully out of mats
I kind of wasted all my serum
it'll be significantly easier to get mats next patch due to it being a 3x
Ah are we still catching up with CN
Yup
One mor3 patch
We're currently on a 2x patch
Also if it helps next patch has a selector up until Qu Shukra
I already got Qu
Who else is worth getting from that selector?
So I have full fire
Epitaph
If you have Pyro and and no wata
I would get him, since you can get vera next patch and have full fire team
Lamia if you like her and don't care about meta at all to any capacity
But even then Epitaph is way more fun imo
lamia 
My ice and dark are literally 3s wanshi and 3s lilith
That's all they have
But they work to carry for now
worth all you need for dark is lilith
Just finished the Startrail trial
She's not bad
Its just that this game has insane animation powercreep
Going from Luna or Ishmael to chars with less flashy animations is just kinda odd to me
Lamia and scire need to be hyperinvested to even make swapping worth
scire needs to retire atp
Yea, my dark team is literally Ishmael oblivion, lilith
How bad is it to use a team with mixed elements?
You'll prob enjoy the game alot from just collecting the a ranks if that's the case then
Yes I need 5.5 to give us new dark tank
only viable if affix or Oblivion
Pretty sure all A ranks have less interesting animations than the S ranks
otherwise 🧱
Teddy's animation are pretty good tbh
Same for Yata
Ye to be fair Teddy is really cool design wise
Also one of the best options for ppc lilith low invest
this is really just what I play cause I can't invest in any other chars atm
oh you have oblivion, if that's the case as long as you have her mixed teams can work
free Lilith
Also don't forget about dorm characters
I did 40 pulls already and didnt get her
I already have echo
I don't really care about the dude
you do care about the dude
you have to
Wanshi slander in here? 💀
I never pull dudes in gacha to be honest
You literally have qu shukra tho
You bet
I now its stupid but idc
But wanshi is free
But I wouldn't use him
Do i do it chat
Wanshi = voucherable to SSS
Who else are u gonna use as ice tank
aight just quick info we give meta advice and how to not brick your account
Did you get the others?
I feel like she is abt to get replaced soon tho
Ye ik
Yep
Who is she
So have echo already?
Mb I thought u were talking to me , ignore me
wait for 100k🥀 💔
Yes
then I see no reason why you shouldn't
I own 2 shards alr dw 
Hmm ok
Do we ever get new chars here?
Lucid Dreamer was the newest and strongest one
That was around solacetune's patch he dropped for global
can't wait for another one ngl
Pretty sure he has been there since I quit
Which was 3 months ago
what about zaza
why I cant do this? ;-;
Is this beta numbers or live? Cause Im only seeing maxes of like 17.5 rn
the war zone
I thought I could do it today TwT
warzone ends early on sundays 
What's the cw build for darkflow? Or is it the same?
I will have that in mind
same
thanks TwT
you could if you do it early earlier!!!!!!!!!!
https://www.bilibili.com/video/BV1uMV6z7EQ1/ I only have this vid from Bili
Aight
That's beta
I should do it early next time, its just that I've been kinda anxious lately
Oh this is beta
beta numbers I remember empress talking about it
do it on saturday better
Oh that's Beta
Demn I just realized the rotation mb 
His rotation is different in the official release now right
alrighty
He doesn't do the black hole spam anymore
yeah it's like 6-7 seconds
is this event really gone in 3 days?
Phantom jab is optimal
Yes
Yeh, will be replaced by Lilith's Patch Boss soon
damn
Bosses become permanent to fight after some time with modifiable stats
its demoliton you fake 💔 . ur not a real dante fan if you dont know all of his moves by name 😭
How realistic is it to get these as a f2p?
I'm sorry I actually haven't played a single DMC game 😔
I was too broke for a console at the time
it's achievable especially if you plan on skipping DMC
insert mega shill comment here

Its 15k black cards right?
10k for that one
Thats not gonna be possible in 6 days unfortunately
also insert toxic comment about how dmc is superior to all action games and that all action games should have a style meter
So true oomfie
um reading comprehension, it ends on August 6th
you got plenty of time
All action games should be like DMC frfrfrfr
._.
In my country it would be read as 8th of June
I hate the american dates
Yeah global makes it go by america time
Fair enough
Sounds way more doable
How long is DMC?
It'll be a great oppurtunity to save up some pulls
Not worth when you are this poor
Dont brick further
The acc is already bricked
At this point it doesn't even matter tbh
But ye I'll probably not waste like 40 pulls on a skin
Personally save for the upcoming character and use leftovers for coating
Bros aiming to buy a Ferrari while being homeless
I really am
nah if you're skipping dmc you might as well
The skin is nice what can I say
And I love oblivion
Then focus on unbrick??? U dont say u failed a test and then u continue to not study right??
Or I save up for future banners
Apparently u dont know me
Its exactly what I do lol
some people just don't care about meta at all, they literally won't get free Lucid Dreamer because they're a dude lol
Time to become a better ppl then, stop making excuses
This some motivational stuff
you'll have enough for both
💀
I gotta see
People always say you can get every char for free each patch but it doesn't feel like that to me
I dont care abt those ppl
you do weeklies right?
Dailies and weeklies yup
But I don't do all events cause some of them are just mid to be honest
U can get every char, just do weeklies and events. Math pretty much checked out
Ye the 🧱 is real
Events give a good amount
I try to do just enough of the events to get all pulls
And alot of time there are guides to speedrun them
I just look it up on youtube and typically there are strats for those
Some events give rewards on participation so you can simply do them then immediately get out of it like cat grab for example
yeah simterra and spice and salt give the most out of the events
Ye I cheated in spice and salt by just clicking next turn without doing anything
Still gave all the pull rewards
there might be a couple of challenges you can do on the last stage of it for a quicker lilith
don't know which ones you're missing tho
Tbh I hated the event so much I can not be bothered to go back and get these earnings
yeah those are pretty easy to do
If I have no other choice I'll go back and do it
only the last one counts for progress there btw
Really ez tho, you just make whatever has the biggest number and sell whatever is the highest
Ye ik its just boring to me personally
Didn't know that I could unlock that when Im done with the default one
That one is a trap
Huh
Ah it costs bc
Did not know that
Yeah only the first one is worth pulling the only incentive is the costume and you get that for free in 2 patches
Btw is there like a guide on how to spend money well?
It sounds stupid but there are so many bundles and it seems like just buying BC is not worth it at all
I see
Thanks
Buy monthlies and BP (if you're active enough)
this one is expensive
Anything else not worth it?
nope
Damn
Really unfortunate cause I'd actually be willing to spend some money
Encrypted intel and monthly are enough
you can stack multiple monthlies during sync
during sync?
how much total voucher you get from battlepass?
Like if you go all in rn?
ya
46k
ohh thanks
yeah and for next patch, it'll be 69k
does pyroath need sig I'm guessing yes
yes
maybe i'll just wait for that patch cuz its triple patch
all the other ones say for 30 days
This one just says daily login
How long does it last?
unless you want to waste precious time yellow orbing yes
where can i find what the weather and the buffs mean for WZ
30 days it will stack with this one
can you do a quick priority list for sigs of pyroath, Selena, Wanshi, Vera, Luna
from top to bottom
if you have the money to spare getting encrypted this patch isn't the worst idea
Just hover the buff on huaxu page

dw I'm a dumbass too


- Pyroath, 2. Selena, 3. Wanshi, 4. Luna, 5. Vera
Realistically would I be able to finish the BP when im only level 11 now
Anyone knows the best memo for lilith and it's positions?
what build?
no
fck pyroath
What build is available?
settle with monthly
Support and Main DPS
Support? She could heal or no?
best heal in the game rn
God dayum
What's your characters tho?
Lilith does an insane amount of damage
I got crocotta, S rank white little girl and lilith
https://huaxu.app/na/players give me your huaxu
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As far as what build should be hypertuned main dps but you want to make sets for both
Don't hypertune her support
especially if you're new
Owkayy thank youu
What's this?
Player search?
https://huaxu.app/na/players/10250574/characters You can use this to show others your account
Explore the 46 characters of Extaria from the North America server of Punishing: Gray Raven.
whats wuwa's ToA called in pgr how do you unlock it
We don't really have a ToA equivalent but I guess PPC
Just reach a certain level and you can do ppc
I couldn't find my acc
Think it was like 50 somethin
what region?
Asia
https://huaxu.app/ap/players try this
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Explore the 21 characters of LunarID from the Asia-Pacific server of Punishing: Gray Raven.
I'm running border pact rn, but i'm lack of strong characters
I need to build some of them
Then you want main dps Lilith built first
Can you give me recommendations+build for them?
After lilith, which chara should i build?
Feral
how many blue cards do you have?
what should one buy in the war shop
Blue cards?
basic construct R&D
Usb
to pull here
1200ish
so Laser Alloy this week is Thunder Unbounded, which I beleve it CW weather?
dang what's your pity at?
Yes, sht ones
out of 60? 💀
For dante and vergil
Yesh
You shouldnt use bc on the base banner either way
I mean you want to do that anyway
how much bc do you have saved and what level of invest do you plan on going for?
i dont really get how to activate the weather buff, for exp if i were to nana solo, if i do red blue -> the next cycle i need to start from blue to activate the buff ?
Im planning on getting both dante and vergil plus their sig weap
Also, what memo for lilith dps and feral?
(And it's position)
That'll cost 36k, 46k with CUBs
Yep thats how it works. Highly recommended to play dlt this time so u can consistently ping red
How can that be?
The both chars alone are 30k right?
10.5k for 2 copies of one of them
I thought its 15k pro character
21k for both
Ohh i missed the solo part 
Ofc u running dlt
banner is reduced to 175 for dmc
oh
It's okay. I could save up
how much you at rn?
ill try both nana solo and swap with CW, really hope the swap performs better in a drastic way now that its CW weather
Please don't ask😭
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why does it say hidden for some chars?
Don't be shy I need the math 
3.4kish
I got 6k yellow card tho
What's your yellow pity at?
DMC won't use yellow cards
for cw u need to consistently ping the right color before every slam.
if u have sss ish and sss nanami, its worth to try swap
Lemme screenshot
Anyway best Lilith build
Deadline timing for resonance
Themed event 9 out of60
Returning chara 50 out of 60
Damage?
feel like its gonna end up like every other laser alloy run where nana solo sets a very decent score on the first day while i play with one hand and watching a podcast at the same time, then spend the rest of the week malding sweating with swap to get a 100k score increase lol
enough to do 100 floors in siege
Ummm i don't have the harmony materials tho...
don't need it
4pc cottie will improve her
But she's still a powerhouse without it
Clash reflection just reset, you can no diff it with SS Lilith
guys what's the hardest boss in the game i want to show to my friend
Alrightt thanks a lott :3
That you can fight at anytime rn? Veronica I'd say
u can do this king 

Welcome this is how op lilith is
literally only thing holding her back is her team
solo lilith is busted
i saw this post where they say they would rather fight a 1000x hp rather than 10x hp. is there a boss like that?
let me see
only boss like that is this one rn
the ones in celica cap at 100 bars
yeah they have 1386 hp bars
Is there a combat guide video you guys can recommend?
while there is they're typically for team rots
Idk but....
Only seen 10 hp bar is on elites (idk where sadly)not boss, btw elites usually 5hp bars
Boss usually 30 hp bar
1000 hp one is just cringe, cuz they had mostly a same amount of hp with that 30 bar one
So just melted so fast
the 100hp ones in celica's class are the tankiest ones
So not one shot
Which one we had now?
trailblazer so super ez one
Protip for everyone, don't get lazy with the leap blues, sp delay is real good qol for cw to maintain weather buff
rots?
rotations maybe?
ohh cr reset already
rotations yeah
Thanks but I just need a refresher on how the combat works
Guess any guide will do just fine
CW weather is kinda brick for 3S nanami on swap
🕷️ 2B gives some pretty good general guides on characters
Should I buy Lilith's shard outside her personal event shop? Since it actually costs to pull on that..
cuz she cant benefit from the buff on her first ult after swap?
should work well for me since my lightning is invested enough to play swap lightning
Whats the next wz rotation for hero?
She can get the benefit on first rot but second rot the buff duration already runs out
Its secondult
Once you get free lilith only spend trade vouchers and ppc shop for rest of the shards
Anyone know the elements for next wz?
No idea tbh gotta test it
Which are more ideal the vouchers or ppc shop? Aiming for ss3 at least..
Predicted warzone rotations until 2025-06-29 for the Asia-Pacific server of Punishing: Gray Raven.
Its that long to ba-ing
buy the first 10 from ppc for SS rank and get the 27 with trade vouchers
finally plasma beam tho, ru excited? i have no idea how the rotation goes so gotta learn it
@spiral merlin How big would you say SS3 Piano for phys and glacio?
I just deleted Clash with plasma
about as significant as Pyroath
Yeah I barely learn how pyro's plasma rot works too, idk how the team rotation supposed to look like
I've been hearing kinda conflicting info so I figured I should just ask a CN player
Some say it's a massive upgrade for phys not glacio, others glacio not phys
Some straight up say it's not all that big to begin with
So always good to ask before I make a dumb mistake
Maglao is a CN player ? 
Ya
Im updating my CN teams thing so I kind of have to ask
right
start with startrail -> swap to Lilith -> bluex2 -> ult 1 -> hold basic until lightning flash is full -> swap to (assuming SS) pyroath-> basic attack -> hold ult (hold blue here)-> x2 blue -> hold basic -> ult 2 -> blue x2 -> hold basic -> ult 1 -> hold basic -> tap ult the second it comes up
also what was the weather buff for plasma wz before lilith?
This playstyle changes if you have SS3 pyroath btw
Im pretty sure it's the same
arigato 
i'm still tripping balls on how my pyro has 5 blue on opening
but when i use plasma outside plasma zone she has 4


look at this damn whel
If SS3 Pyroath from swapping to her -> basic -> redx3 -> hold ult(hold blue here) -> Hold ult -> hold basic -> press basic again for followup -> hold ult -> bluex2 -> hold basic -> hold ult -> bluex2 -> hold basic -> hold ult -> repeat until electric flash ends

ss3 and above is the same i presume?

SSS is so wack I'm not even going to get into it
kinda incomplete since 4th slash u need
blu blu - hold basic - blu - hold ult
i use different opening
seems sussy
yeah thanks for adding that
dang I've been lied to thanks dawg
5 Slash
Swap > Red 3x > BA(must be on ground) > Hold Ult (Hold Blue to activate ion) > Slash
Hold BA > BA > Slash
3 Blue 2x > Hold BA > Slash
3 Blue 2x > Hold BA > 3 Blue > Slash
3 Blue 2x > Hold BA > Slash > 3 Blue

i also have no idea as i dont read kit xD
to fill her bar
cub doesn't affect the frames bp right?
ye ik
she needs 12 pings for aura blast when you swap to her she gets 3 from the get go
shouldn't it be switch -> 2x3red + basic atk > hold ult (ult1)
so all 3S ion team should be getting 14m?
SS3 different rot and it depends
are these only if you have the char? so dont buy them if not
my pyro is ss3
It's to setup her double ult
cubs don't affect the frames bp right?
Its just was a meme i guess
So not take it to bad
when update?
month
You can ult immediately after entering fire thunder form and then aura blast followup to ult again immediately
oh
which one?
is that the 5 slash ult
what are you asking?
after lilith
June 26th is when next patch starts
k, finished building nanaknight untill i get her sig and maybe her SS3 (she is at SS0 right now), who should i build now lilith or ish? i dont have ishmael's sig nor a 5 star weapon on her tho
24 days until phy is saved
when dmc update
Selena about to make my physical stonks go 📈
Sometime in August
Plenty of time to save
Especially with how much bc we're getting next patch
k whel
@ripe stag
oh okay thanks
are we getting a ton?
alot?
the most in a single patch in this game's history
mama mia
how much
x3 patch
more than the pyro nana patch?
most definitely
trying to find the google doc tho if someone has a link for it I'd appreciate it
forgot to bookmark it lol
i think there are a few variations of it out there
the anni banner gonna be for all units right?
yes
does it also give alot of yellow ticket?
any news on when it will drop
almost enough to pull one of them
@obsidian dune
8k and 34k ?!?!
ngl forgot how many event cards shaper's ripples had
the voucher only include basic bp right?
anni banner drops with next patch?
yes
thankfully we get more black cards then event cards to save on
wdym?
i mean they only count the f2p bp?
that's pure f2p vouchers
doesn't include paid
alr
ez sss dorm unit again
imma be swimmimg voucher next patch 
also another 4 consecutive s rank release lmao
worth getting Alya to SSS or dump into Wanshi or Lilith ?
nah, dump into wanshi and lilith
gei-dmc-dorm-s rank
Dante, Vergil, Selena, and Vera 💀
4 ht 
nah selena doesn't count
and then the anni patch after it
her chain got broken by jet
anni patch is the selena patch
Yup
oh, so patch after dmc is basically guaranteed to be free char?
since itll most likely be the last synch patch, i guess itll be a A rank or free S rank + paid S rank patch to close off the synchro
all this will take in effect next patch
Why there's no cottie memory in cn
Ah
lucca wgat
i got lucky and pulled 10 sig on 1 multi pull

kimika told me Echo eventually wants R3 for glacio



