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I'll save then. Would wanshis rlly not be worth it? Just wondering y u say they aren't optimal. Scire probably bc she's old but others?
RC > 0 = whel
Lamia is also old and her weapeon doesn't do much for her
Wanshi's weapon doesn't actually add any rotation QoL, it's "essentially ignorable" since it only provides damage
but its for luna ,lucia,nanami ,ishmael and selena so it doesnt count☺️
It is not really like that i assume Lucid Dreamer equipment is not worth it, but there are more equipments with higher priority you should prioritize
Oki dokie ty
It does
but i saw someone who spent 126k RC...... they a true whel
Lucid Dreamer weapon is still kinda strong because he can equip 4 Piece chen jiyuan for both the Ice team and Glaciation team
for the love of humanity, whale denied his identity as whale to be able to integrate with F2P, your greatness we accept, do not deny yourself as whale identity 
Off field Tank reduction is really strong nowadays
IM ONLY A FISH COMPARED TO "THEM"
I mean if you ignore the fact that you'll miss out on perma 15% ice shred

Yes I know this, harmonization is the reason no weapon is truly skippable
But in a situation where you can only afford limited amounts of weapons you want the ones that give characters the most QoL upgrades usually
We skipping Vergil and Dante sig?
pay attention to hp and boss attack and spam infinte +qte quickly, +burst, never care about rotations, only need the burst soon use and passive use fast as possible is best 

best cun to target first next patch? selenas or veras
Best what
Vergil really needs DLT so I dont think that's an affirmative
Ppc? Rot important there too
CUB I MEAN CUB
I'm done with this game
I guess the name checks out
Selena is first then Vera after a week
So both
no but really whose cun is more valuable (plus im only thirsty for the men)
Again?
CUB
It's CUB
the b is so close to the N
Selena's first imo
Pianissimo cub also buff glaciation damage right?
Geiravor's is actually quite huge for her imo but her damage already is kinda suck
okie need to but the cub battle pass 2 times to guarantee
i never care about it, spam and burst+passive infintes and fast as possible 
im not a whel i swear
Btw
Ice Cub buff buffs Glacio?
It should
yes
Yea it's like the other dual cubs
I guess Kurai's list is pretty accurate
uuuuh
i am online on taiwan pgr, vera version
That depends on who you're referring to
Thinking about skipping the dmc collab to build a plasma team
I think as long as you do not spend too much time with basic attack in each character, it is alright at least?
Should i skip her signature?
Who are you
Why are you so based
I'm still angry that WuWa got Saotome Yuuka before PGR did
WHERE'S MY PLAYABLE YUUKA KURO?

You technically can cause it doesn't give her any QoL upgrades
But she's meta in 4 teams so it's gonna be a HUGE account boost
Just a new a player who's been playing for 2 weeks.
you don't need skip dmc colab, you can play it, you would get dante free, or vergil on 60/60 roll with cheap bc 175
What are the other two
Isn't without sig her ult 2 damage is PEPEGA
Like insane pepega
All i know about is ignition and fire
Ignition
Fire
Nihil
Darkflow
She'll be best amp for Nihil if your Lilith already isn't high in rank
Mine is so I don't need Vera

No clue tbh
It doubles her ult2 damage but her multiplier already looks high to begin with
It's basically the amp version of LD's weapon
so, vera is not good, not right? right? 
Btw
SS0 fire team needs Vera to double rot?
You can stick with Empy and Cope like hell and then get frustrated
The Point of swapping oit character is when you already running out of signal orbs or energy to extend your character rotation further to deal more damage
Swapping to another built Character that can deal damage is better than using basic attack to regenerate signal orbs, swapping in any Character also gives then signal orbs compared to before swapping out
But from what I'm seeing
Vera's rot is fast
Epitaph's rot on swap in fast
How will Pyroath get out on time
So technically, swapping play style is like the optimal way to play in Punishing Gray Raven
That is also why we have Amplifier Class skill
Currently, I have 17k bc, still need to pull Lucia pyro from the thunderbolt manual research so that's 9k bc since I got 7 out of 10. Then nanami and Lucia 6 star weapons, that's 15k bc in total. Then I can get them to SS through dorm or phantom cage shop.
So 24k bc for SS Lucia pyro, SS Nanami Startrail, SS Lilith Daemonissa (who's free). But I need Lucia pyro at SSS, right?
The collab is probably in August so idk.
We do not have skills that makes a character deals more damage the longer they stayed on the field
Meaning solo playstyle always has been ineffective
Vera fast?
I think you can ignore pyroath weapon for a while because of weapon banner is technically permanent and you can pull it at anytime whenever you can afford it
It's always better to prioritize character first simply because of the character banners are limited time, unlike the weapon banner
Vera isnt really that fast tbh
Also wdym by on timee
BP number does not really mean anything in terms of damage
I mean right now Nanami is solo for lightning team
You can simply use the wrong memory set and resonance on a character and will still have high BP number
It just a useless number
I think if you can manage to learn solo Startrail playstyle, she can carry your lightning score by herself
Part of her Optimal rotation already included using basic attack
So while doing the Optimal Startrail rotation, you are also passively regenerates signal orbs for Startrail
So that's 7.5k bc saved for idk. Maybe Cubs?
Solo Startrail is really bearable from how she is played out
You are not planning to get the next Limited S rank debut?
isn't nanami SSS? i think lucia SSS will be better than SS0, the reason she is very easy to die, SSS will make her have more HP/DEF and a bit harder to die. while about rolling vergil, i need information about new char after dmc collab to decide if i should roll vergil or not 
you'll have to say what is in your team btw, because it depends alot
Based on the other server, global server is likely to get 3 integrated version after current one that includes Pianissimo and Geiravor in one update
I mean from the sss videos i saw
It seemed like Pyroath's cooldown ends on time with Vera's ult 2
You definitely want to get Pianissimo at least
Not likely it's confirmed
Next patch is named after Selena patch and has Selena Jetavie Vera
Starts on 25th
Ends on 6th August
From 6th is Doomsday

Also i just read that part
why you would need a SSS rank Pyroath???
That is overkill
nah, vera is definitely backloaded af
I see
atleast her ult is multi hit unlike balter
Also Ezra why do you have fcking 400K total messages in this server
vera is good, i definitely, so every should roll her and Forced to play 
damn. didn't know that i bricked my wz scores the last month since i started. placed characters correctly now and getting much higher scores in wz now lulz
Who is Ezra?
The mod I was talking to
Oh 6th August guy?
Ye
I see
the terminally online guy?
I am not really sure what is that name means
Why?
DMC collab in GLB server
Huh
there should be a limbus and mgr and dmc collab at the same time with no chat cooldowns enabled so all 4 communities can unite and share awesome memes in the general chat!
Imma lurk in office during that time

have fun helping newbies in dmc patch
Ezra is you?
Ezra is you? 
Dunno 
Idk. I think since she's main dps, I should prioritise her more for more damage output.
(Ik that's a mega whale build but that's the rotation I'm going for)
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Huh
She already does significant damage on SS0 rank already
SSS rank damage would only be noticeable if you are playing a very end game mode like highest warzone rank
You also want to consider her teammate to actually makes Pyroath deal her optimal damage
What wz
Even SSS rank Pyroath will deal pretty bad damage with nonexistent team
prob vanguard or elite 
Noted. So I don't need to get anyone to SSS at this point.
Yeah
If you do not throw money like crazy to this game, SSS rank character besides A ranks character of free ones is just overkill
It is just depends on how you play the character and how you build them a proper team to be able to deal the highest damage you can do
You would be surprised to notice how this game is more of team demanding rather than ranks required
Legend>Hero>Leader>Elite>Vanguard
Mhmmmm
The good thing is when I get lucia pyro, I can switch to an ignition team later on when Vera comes out. So having 2 good ignition and plasma teams is cool.
if you have one char with SSS, it would get better point in warzone, don't mind, warzone is calculated on ranks, so if you get low point at low rank, not mean that the higher rank have higher point is same, higher rank maybe have higher poin becuase it is buffed here to make high value player can higher points, don't too mind 
But Kuro removed some ranks before in warzone right?
Nah, reworked
Is Vera coming out in August too?
I thought that there was a recoil rank
it does
who care anything below hero 
No
Vera's next month
My man
Ignition and Fire aren't the same
who tf make that pic
Don't think of ignition as a "Fire alternative"
My pfp?
Shouldve added the "ELEMENT AND EFFECT ARENT THE SAME" on it
nah, i mean this one, the ignition pyroath LMAO
Idk I found it here, and thought it was useful?
it is one effect that several last char of 2nd-gen and leap have and now all chars of 3rd-gen have one effect in skill set 
I think you read it wrong
It's common sense among the community that Fire and Ignition aren't same
It's just you guys probably that don't know anything cuz they don't read
Yes that's the meta team comps chart
but Ignition and Fire aren't the same
Fire is an Energy Type
Ignition is an Effect
Both are different damage types in general
you know why that put pyroath in? cause they saw dante have fire dmg mean fire dmg and ignition is the same
Cuz not everyone's gonna get a Collab unit
Not everyone's stupid to think Dante and cover both fire and Ignition when he's ignition centric
It's "Copium" to use Fire on Ignition since Fire will have the lowest Resisted damage

I mean not like she can not do it, it just an alternative
dante is free 
She cannot
Needs SS3 + R1 minimum
Now?
Can you laugh?
wait really?

She only act as a sub dps for ignition, because her affix is plasma, but in ignition wz, fire still gets buff, just not significant as ih ignition
the hell
People used Stratrail in Plasma Warzone before
It is an emergency alternative
can explain it elemental effect in genshin, it is not elemental dmg, so elemental bonus is not work 
As Copium cuz Daren as Enabler sucked
Well Dante is free anyways, so I'll just use dante when I go for an ignition (can get him to ss later on as well)
SS3 is free
you said needed 
10.5k on Dante banner will give 2 copies
- The free copy
SS3 Dante does the damage better
SS0 is eh
ik
ss0 is that bad huh?
Free danteh but still gotta get ss0 through gacha 
Well yes, that is the normal way to plan
Because Ignition is not in a kit of her.
Unless they meant using Pyroath as brute force
Like people using Starrail on Nihil platform in my league and somehow score better
Most of that 6m is from nanami
Atp just solo nana in ignition 
That's cuz they using sss Startrail as a damage mitigator and shred
Nihil is completely different

That's my plan too
I'm gonna either solo Nanaknight
Or pull dante
do it 
burn scores higher than TS?
You expect me to have enough for 2 S ranks next patch with sig and cub + DMC units (2) + sig and cub + next patch to DMC will be S rank hopefully cuz it's half anni
highest burn wz rn is 17.55 mil
For now in empress
Can't search Bilibili
when is the dmc 5 event coming for the global
Yes 
TS is only 16.55 mil

I thought u were rich
look at huaxu
@ripe stag Im having people test out burn numbers
Thanks a lot
how was it?
oh ok
- Pyroath on Ignition is just running fire team on Ignition content since Fire will have less Resisted Damage
Have you ever taken a look at the "weather" in warzone?
SO FAR, Pyroath is ahead of the other teams/candidates
No
No
You can run Pyroath cuz Fire is the parent energy type for Ignition so Fire has the lowest Resisted Damage
But it's still cope
I mean it's Fire
But with proper resos and whatnot Nanami/Geiravor swap could possibly outdo Pyroath
To be fair, I'm pretty sure there's barely any competition... I think
So how much bc for Vera and her 6 star weapon? 22.5k bc
Then 17.5k bc for SSS Dante and his star weapon
40k bc (ignoring the CUBs)
Jetavie is being blown out of the water but all the options are kinda close to each other
Only 17k BC for SSS Dante?
No
parent energy type, never hear, so, what exact the effects, we have relaated each other or tree?
21K
- the 6 star weapon
10.5k x 2 + free copy = 21k bc + free copy = SSS Dante
- sig is a other 7.5k if lucky = 28.5k
Isn't it 90 shards?
Okay, my initial math wasn't wrong lmao.
I thought there's new info lmao
Do we get banner tickets during the event?
S to SSS is 120 shard
Oh
collab unit dont have shard in ppc shop
Reach hero wz, and read it, read the weather about what buffs they give, you will understand
Calculate it like this
- first 2 copies gives 1 copy (X2) = 4 copies in 2 pity = 120 shards
- free Dante + 120 shards = SSS0
So 21k bc
Since 2 pities are 10.5k each
it is reason why we are forced to roll in collab banner 
GOD I DON'T DO MATHS
Ezra weird sht in general
I will not hit pity 
S dante for free but we will have to pull for his ss 

how emotional damage
Someone showed me this.
Yea that's good enough
Good, get there and read the buffs and understand it yourself
I need just mere 33k neat
21k bc + 7.5k + 2k = 30.5k for sss +sig + cub (dante only)
So the strat here would be to basic invest Vera then whale invest Dante or?
Yo, sorry for the late reply. Im more of a late game player so I never really noticed if she can trigger her red or blue skills if you have 0 number (meaning 0 orbs). If i run outta orbs i usually switch character or in this case I do basic attacks
I told you, reach hero and read the weather
Fire damage brrr
Nier units as outdated as gen 1 now?
I wonder.
I remember people saying that they were dominating the game for entire year and now no one even mentions them 
if i have 61k bc i could make sss Bergil and Danto, sig n cub 
Just do pair dante with vergil and slay all zones
Fire is a parent element of Igniton so she doesn't get that much of a penalty. But thats a last resort if you dont have Dante/Nanami Startrail
Just like plasma and ultima slash
For example, in plasma beam, the weather is "lightning damage increased and plasma beam significantly increased"
The same will go for ignition @rigid dust
Thats why they can use fire in ignition, but just a cope
Solo nanami could do better
Ah hell nah, pull for pyroach skin 

whale for wife why pull 
Like, everyone answered, but you couldnt get it, so you gotta see it yourself in the wz
U dont need to worry about it right now
Shes in fire because shes a fire attack
Shes in plasma cuz she has the plasma affix and does plasma dmg when it is triggered
Shes in ignition because ignition does "fire dmg" so at least she does something there
Or so, i understand it as such 
i have question, why the dmg of vera have ignition icon and dmg number so big, so it is one change in interface?
Nah, it is fire icon, see it a gain
it fire icon
Pyroath isnt igniton, but ignition weather still buffs fire damage by 30% so she's still a viable alternative to Dante

thank you, sorry for mistake 
Im tired
What a misinfo

Misinfo gph gogo
helper? more like misinfoer
Ban elper
Why do I bother
caught u 
because no one else does
we need you dalao 
It is simply because of she is the only viable alternative in a case you do not have the required Dante for ignition content to put along with Stratrail and Geiravor
Geiravor is not ignition either
The way it works that Ignition warzone stage (the only place where ignition matters) it has less Final Damage penalty comapred to other elemental team and like people been saying, Fire is the parent element of Ignition and any buff or debuff related to Fire is applicable towards Ignition damage calculation. This is why Geiravor is used in Ignition rather than Parhelion that can buff any elemental team.
Ignition warzone stage alone also buffed Fire Damage dealt throughout the stage along with Ignition damage simply because of yhe previous statement, Fire is the parent element of Ignition.
So from that buff alone Pyroath is technically a better alternative compared to the rest of the elemental team in the game for Ignition content.


im not copying that
vera 10 roll, whao
Nanasolo
There is a video, 6m nanami solo ignition
What is wrong with my message?
Nothing is wrong
Ishmael doesn't work in ignition for for different reasons
She would be copying Nanaknight which would make her buffs lightning actually
Even if she did have fire buffs tho she can't match Geiravor's damage in teh slightest
I asked Kuraisan about it
I just repeated it right 
Oh she does not work?
That is something

Double it down
Wouldn't count on it
Is it ok to use my 6 star shards to resonate memories
yes
No dont do it, it will trigger the hidden virus on your device through that 6s chips, and they will destroy your computer along with spread the virus all over the world
Oh... I was hoping it'll just make me pregnant 🫃
What

Is there a new character being teased in cn?

I wonder who's that beloved cashcow that got killed twice meta-wise
feral alpha
she is darkflow?
Karenina dark tank confirmed 
mistake, ishmeal is Disruption, playing vera, so mistake with vera
Yea vera's darkflow
what memory build of vera?
Check #📨・bot-info
i don't see memory build, cottie or recomended on game?
not yet existed to know, have or not tank kamui gen-4 is hidden x
Dont follow in game recommendations they suck
Anyone tell me which character has high dmg with good DPS except CW and stairrail
so cottie 4 and 6 or cottie 1 and 3?
Geiravor doesn't use Cottie
WAIT WHAT
But usually for Cottie you want it on the bottom row
Yea they have no clue what they are talking about
how emotional damage
don't tell me that you follow the game recommendations
If ur talking about following the recommendation for the CW mission that's fine
CAN ANYONE TELL ME LILITH'S MEMORY, CE, PYROATH AND ISHMAEL THEN😭
Check in #📨・bot-info with /build command
Wait who's CE
Oh I meant crimson weave
me too, used, so i use info on pgr wiki https://grayravens.com/wiki/Characters to decide
Oh my god🤦 I could've asked if I should follow the game recommendation
Uhh is there option where you can pick for memory dmg or support?
This also is garbage
Then I should follow recommendation build in command?
Yea the bot has a tab under the build thing where you can select the intended way u wanna build the character and it will give u the corresponding builds
what the hell
, fu- you, sh- you, dm- you, how emotional damage you can do for me 
Yes bot info is good
it offer a lot memory build, so you must decide what builds of many build offered to use and cases to use, wz, ppc, ...
Oh high rank uses it?
No
Oh
Ewwwwwwww so 4DV 2Cottie 2Eins?
Solo geir?

holy smokes raising cubs is quite expensive
Oh btw Setsu did u get the chance to test the ignition wz alterantives
do i need the motorbolt cub to complete stage 7 thunderbolt missions?
so, now is cottie or eins, what the hell going on 
say if i get a 6 star weapon of a character which im not gonna need anytime and is way out of meta , can i scrap it ?
what do i do with them then
Never scrap 6star weapons use them as resonance material
is there a way to unequip 5* weps if there's no 4* of the wep 
i mean ive done resonance with my epitaph once, i have a buncha res cards for now
444 Vera main dps goes 1200 over
ill do with my wanshi too then ig
444 pyroath goes about 1300 line
Dont need 
Nanami Vera dual dps?
There is 
Yes
Ah got it
But i noticed Ezra said something about 6m only before?
uhh how
Vera looks fierce 
6* star weapons 
That's probably his own invest
There's also another way
I mean, dante has pretty much acceptable compromising cases
Fck u
LMAO
but he said something like 16m in comparison?
?
U can skip dante if you really don’t want to pull him
When does sync patch ends again? 

the tragedy of the question you ask
When we aree caught up to CN
Wdym by this
In case of you have leviathan investment
Yea I think I will have to skip him but Vergil really looks like a must pull especially with the PPC boss
it is so cancer
Hmm ishamel's build on einsteina looks good compare to cottie, not replacing Einstein to cottie

Balter ppc
But that's whel invest
My SS3 Balter aint doing that
What did he meant by 6m vs 17.5m ?
He was talking about Pyroath in ignition team?
Or did i got it wrong again
why ? 
You mean plasma beam?
He was talking about fire if i know
From poor trademark 
There's qte on it and 3 pings skill orbs cottie only gains 20% energy when it pings
Idk
Which once is better cottie or einsteina
I also dunno what he means either tbh
How do u could 3ult without cottie?
Teach me
ezra mean on ignition wz pyroath vs dante score
Well he's wrong lol
Perfect and careful doing Combo skills kinda good enough
Seriously?
Who are you 
Pyroath is about plasma beam, so if Pyroath is in ignition team, this mean that she is here for expoliting fire dmg or plasma beam, reason maybe boss prone to many damages,so what exact ignition team, have at last two char of ignition? right 
Under 12s
you want ishmeal is qte-bot or make more pings to easy get qte on other chars but not ishmeal and ishmeal is main dps? sound great if you use it in case, but i don't know sure about this case, never try to confirm, becuase i don't have enough hypertune resources to buil two build, one is cottie and two is eins 
Hii silly billy 
What do you mean
For nihil dps she has like zero energy without Cottie
poor selena, protest kuro 
Exactly what i mean 
Idk but eins is better to use it on a qte bot unit like always
I havent gotten a good oppurtunity to test Lilith myself but I would avoid it to be safe
Hi
No seriously, i do not get it
My name is steve
three steps to eternal, right 
You..... are Steve?!?! 
Yea
To my shock Pyroath actually does not do that badly compared to Dante, maybe like 3-4M difference
Nothing is wrong with it 
6m vs 17.5m is not right
What 
i get to skip dante? 
Ok speaking of ignition
O mai gotto? 
@hazy sandal Did u use shakes or cottie on Nanami? Which works better in your opinion with non-Dante dps
So many cottie memory recommendations omg is nanami even recommended for her memory too??
they are trolling you, don't mind, here have many troller and joker here, so don't serously, focus on guiding and well, ... funny 
I just put her cottie, inner thoughts just won lol
ah thanks, im just looking for a good wz and ppc rotation for her, i assume she would be main dps in ppc?
Talk about character which one is good character for babel tower levels? Is my preset Ishmael, pyroath, Lilith good enough?
What team is this
I have unused good characters, feral, entropy and CA
Idk they just have 2 high dmg and 1 good support so I don't die
Do u just want the rewards? Or do you want to max level clear
tysm
Also that team is questionable at best
Nw 
it is one hard question, i wonder more pings and more energy, how fast to burst, how fast benerfits 
you want get 600 levels?
Seriously, if you have something to say, be honest about
Just need to finish the game rq with high dmg against the boss phase 2 I almost died from them I'm not good at long battle cause I might loose interest in battle make me weak lol
I feel uncomfortable
Yeah sounds challenging to get the medal
FLINT AND STEEL
He's being a jokester dont mind him
@devout turret enough plz
its just some joke about minecraft hes not explaining probably
I'm trying to build the fire team pyroath gardiviovr ehpithaphi team what's recommended equip for pyroath? Pyr as main dps
Flint and steel
I thought it is pretty common name
CHICKEN JOCKEY?!
Okay i guess?
Steve the goat
Ok no more Minecraft
i think you can use crimson weave to beat 160 levels on tower cradle, nanami at 160 levels on tower cradle, last team on cradle maybe ishmeal team with 160 levels, while one team on tower hyperreal is lucia pyroath + lilith at max level 130, enough to get 600 levels, you can do it
interesting
YEAAAAAAAAAAH
@mortal sphinx Use commands in #📨・bot-info please
OH MY GOD
Yes
He just says things like that as mod?
How often he does that
I am worried about other people that might read it
Which boss is easiest to dodge which has slow attack easily to react? First one or third one? Second one is scary... I don't like battling with high ranged enemies...
He's usually not wrong about information so idk where he got those numbers from
I see
Idk what 6m and 17.5m means is it like points from warzone or smthn
But in terms of the sht he says in general then that's just the tip of the iceberg honey


is lilith a the dps or support in dark team
Ahh I see
Both 
If i know in that time
Anyone talks about using dante in fire
So he just got tiggered
does she want her sig set or da vinci
I suggest to make Lilith support cause her dmg is low
Sig set, DV is her plasma team build
DPS
uuuuh no? She's the main dps of dark
mf fck u mean avoid it
She's stronger than lamia tho
Oh really? Hmm I didn't know
ok so build 2 sets and switch betweem then?
he got kimi and queso helping
Uhhh, should i trust him anymore?
I havent gotten the chance to test Lilith my phone has been broken, I havent been avoiding it intentionally
That's up to you 
What do you mean by that
incomplete imo, he didnt add the setup for next rot, the 242 ones
Just it's up to you if you wanna trust him or not 
Oh wait u mean the video
I havent used Lilith myself so I cant really say if his guide is good or not
So to be safe and not accidentally give misinfo I just said avoid it
stupid question but what does trial units in siege use? 4 or 5* weapon?
6star
Do they not use signature weapon
Sig weapon iirc
1st boss or of tower ???, i forgot the name, 2nd boss is hyperreal lee of tower hyperreal, 3rd boss is cardle of tower cradle, so name of boss is name of babel tower, for easy to remmeber. Now, three boss is not easy, but have trick or skills to defeat them, cradle boss is easy to dodge but she is boss that carry out many coordianted attack at ranges from short, medium and far distance with huge damage, so this is easy to dodge but also easy to run out of stamina for dodge and play carefull becuase she is above 200 hp bars. Hyperreal is scare becuase he have deathly attack of hyperreal space and deathly burst, but other attacks is not low damage, so counter the his burst is attack him while he is charging the deathly burst with pings and it break or stop him from gain burst, he broken and stuned in many seconds and can not attack you anymore. While 1st boss, i forgot 
where does this guy find the time to type allat
Just trial
am I stuck with her being A rank forever?, doesn't seem like I can farm her shard anywhere
Yes
should i invest in her weapon reasonance?
welp that sucks
O mai gotto, its DMC!!! 
the tragedy of the fate 
If you want to 
i mean, i only have her and rigor's 6 star weapons so....
if i do invest it in her, what reasonance should i give her?
Deadline timing 
is there a more efficient way to get to lv 150?
There is 
if you want to, Dead Line Timing. but its not at all reccommended to use weapon resonances on her, cause shes not meta nowadays. and she wont need those resos to farm the early game anyway
maybe use finatl atk, right?
thanks
Maybe 
not obtainable atm if i remember correctly
oh...is she replaced soon?
Wow, a borgur! Can i eat you 
Noooooo 
already is. By
play, upgrade the buff systems in lost appocrypha, the more upgraded the more fast to reach level 150? or i rember wrong place, maybe not lost apocrypha?
i mean, is she getting powercrept even more by another lightning dps soon?
- choose second difficulty
- reset repeatedly until you get crimson weave right at the start
- good luck
i use final atk, well

nanami already is the lightning DPS. but more than that, no
Uhm, don’t even need a dps to outdamage her btw atp
Thank you
oh, aight, thanks, welp, ig imma save it lol
not yet, but she IS the oldest "meta" attacker in the game so she's ripe for replacement
who should i memory hypertune first? (except nanami,lucia, and luna)
sooooo, start saving for vera now?
yataa 
Ye she's A forever
both selena and vera
can you pass me your ID and region? lets me review your entire account
Yeah, and selena too, do not skip any s rank in this game if you can
Lilith
is this worth spending on?
Worth 
Permanent, so take your time
If you're already going for the rerun char then yea. It's just free resources
Explore the 27 characters of Khaos from the Europe server of Punishing: Gray Raven.
thanks
its a great deal. but its not more important than upcoming banners. be ccareful you dont spend too much
its also perma, so you dont gotta do it quick
Pull every unit that is in the Themed Event banner and isnt already free
ah okay thanks
nice to know
Sort of if you're super bricked
actually my question is wrong i mean who should i hypertune first
Who’s coming in the next patch? I don’t really wanna pull for ishmael because I’d have to get Luna oblivion but I don’t wanna use that team, instead I wanna get lucia pyroath
It's permanently available, it wont leave
To maximize ur BC though,, spending slowly on it over the course of multiple patches will make the most worth of your BC
- Put memories on your Lilith
- Pull pyroaths signature weapon
- level up feral to support CW
Still Lilith 
thanks for the help yall
I see
thank you
I'll do that
alright thanks
she is tank god of 3rd and all tanks, so if she is replaced, only god can do it, for now, no way to know or predict it, maybe need several years or 4th-gens, but it is too far to say about gen 4th while need 40 days to complete one patch, so very long time, replacer is not yet to be know for now, now she is most powerful of tank and lighning, so she is tank god, star god 
You should resonate and hypertune pretty much everyone you own except the A-ranks and the rightmost 3 characters (Kaleido CW Balter)
- soon
- use black cards too?

- 🫡
- Yes, but be careful you dont overspend, because you still want the characters from next patch

Yeah, this game does not offer you much wp ticket, so have to use BC
2.
3. 
No it's a fixed selector
thanks a lot!
aight, thankss!!!!
you got it?
up until startrail?
is she the collab character
and outmeta right
or you roll 60/60 on blue banner, it is equal, while selector is up to last char
yeah
btw is the scavenger thing on coop reset weekly
oh yeah I know about the blue banner
thx tho
Buddy, why are you tell me this?
Yes
nice 
wait ngl if i have the 450 piece thing to afford a free 5* weapon should i just do it
Coop gonna be removed next patch anyway
huh 
Yes for all the ones you need
why?
wrong chat, wrong guy, sorry for mistake 
Cuz it's a dead game mode
but blud we can still ask ppl on discord to join us pls don't delete
It's called coop but you can solo
Cant relate, im solo player in any game
also more laggy with friend 
my PC is like i3 5gb with 8gb ram 750 gtx i feel like it running super smooth even with coop also there is a button hide allies effect isn't it
i think coop also make it faster because it took only 1-3 sec for 1 round while solo could took 10-20 sec
coop solo is auto to nightmare coop, well, it is nightmare, dont recommended 
Will dmc collab be in August starting or in end
Nightmare is easy with newer characters anyway
oh ya does the difficult harder give more better rewards
i try easy and it alway give me blue weapon but i choose nightmare last diff it alway guarantee purple and yellow
aug 6
What memories for her
At some point is just a place to flex your characters
except one boss 
i don't mind
coop got delete is sad 😦
#📨・bot-info /build lilith
Your chance to get a yellow weapon drop is already terribly low since the first place, so the difference between the easiest and the hardest is barely matters really
It's gonna be replaced with something else so you can still get the 5* frags
*daemonissa
no, so sad to say, hard or easy only get one point in coop with the same cost of serum 
You are playing co-op for the weekly 5* weapon shards rewards
Works too for single frame units
Damn
it burn a lot serum and only got low rewards, and weapon is only 3, 4-star and randomly, so ... 
Lemme try nanaknight
Hello have the stupid 👋
DMC when 
Nanaknight works too
@fading kestrel i think you can use nicknames that is registered for each character
yea i know that much. every character has some nicknames that work
Jetavie: Daybreak
omgkawaiiangel-chan
vtuber
gyaru
Which better
Both needed
the never ending of nihil malding
Main. You only go plasma if you have plasma team (pyroath, lilith, nanaknight)
Check Jetavie's nicknames
Which should I do in early game
4 Bathlon 4 Cottie one

Jetavie: Daybreak
omgkawaiiangel-chan
vtuber
gyaru
Yeah, RNG is not good, i mean it is an evil thing btw 
OMGKawaiiAngelChan
Definitelly gonna sss+ her and use her
It's free
Yes that was sarcasm
Peak
wife
Peak
Digital Gyaru

And she's doing Kurumi

peak wife
Would
Main DPS Set
Main DPS
High Difficulty, Pain Cage, Warzone, Clash Reflection, Norman
Recommended for all ranks
General DPS set
This unit has not been released on Global yet. Please take these builds with a grain of salt as they are subject to change.
4x Bathlon
2x Barcelo
Top Slot : 6x Any ATK+15 Variant
Bottom Slot: 6x Signature
Flamel

should i get lilith pet to ss
im gonna use her in dark team regardless of circumstances
If you want to
I did
You have to
why
oh
My dark team is Wanshi Luna Lilith
GOT IT
yeah thats fine too but add a coop event boss weekly with friends too otherwise i would feel lonely
i mean 0,1% increase more still value

Who knows maybe someday we'll get a raid boss with 10 people
thats sound fun we should have it now
ARUTIMETTO SUPEKTAKURU X10
nice, you can send me this sword, my lucia need it, for free 

🚫
is it worth leveling up the cubs? and dumping so much serum onto them, its so expensive
I level up the cubs I love
is Lucid dreamer DMG good or bad?
Like CW's cub is at level 1
Rest of them are max
nowww, what reasonance for her?
VERY GOOD ~ INSANE
damn i need ss lilith pet to follow the sheet
damn it i need his weapon
Do not pull back for old sig if you don’t have many BC
this build only works with his weapon harmony right?
Not really worth it apart from harmony and more damage
Yea enough
AIr 2 Chen and not 2 Eins without sig?
i can't use BC, gotta take Vera and pianissimo, and max DMC characters
i'm confused
Should I max these memories now?
Yeah, so don’t get his sig, Wanshi sig is all about damage btw, you can still run an optimal rotation with 5*
Like I should put my resources now right
yep, 7 pity
Yay
after i get Kaleido from the Dormitory Shop, who can i pair them with? i don't have Qu Shukra (i heard that the game will give out a S rank selector up to her, but idk if i should get her or someonelse)
i was afraid i would have to farm the whole stronghold thinggg
Wanshi LD
no yea, i mean, who should i pair with LD and Kaleido
hell yeah
I run with just those two, with bambinata on qte lol
Aside Kaleido, you can put any ice unit you want if you don’t wanna get Qu, i prefer you to pair with icr healer or another ice amp, if you have ishmael, you can put her into the team too
btw, what reasonance should i give it?
ishmael passive will break tho
weapon reso? DLT
should i get Qu from the selector next patch?
thanks!!!
which should i pick?
Oh, yeah, forgot, she only can be an amp or tanj 
Ye
Really depend on the rest unit that you have
and i should give it harmony too, right?
https://huaxu.app/eu/players/28318888/characters this is my situation (i should be able to get Vera and pianissimo next patch 90%)
Explore the 29 characters of hidetakeda from the Europe server of Punishing: Gray Raven.
3x the rewards next patch so it shouldn’t be that much of an issue.
put cottie on the harmo, yeah
are any of the smart people present
where ss3 ishma rot
I still got like a butt load of story to get through so i still got a lot of bc to grab
Oh you don’t have Pyroath ? So just choose Qu btw, Qu is a nice one to get, but need 6*, really need it or you gonna regret it
I thought you have Pyroath then Epitapth should be the one to get 
Should I do this? Or not and which item to use to consume in early game
unfortunately i had to choose between her and Startrail, and startrail honestly looked more fun to play 
anyone have a good primal projection vid with 3s lilith?
It’s okay, Stairtrail is actually more f2p friendly, you only need to invest in Nanami to got a decent result in both Lightning and Ignition
the blue tokens
also yes you should. its a good upgrade. but its also more expensive than say, leveling up. so if youre still really early, prioritize giving useable memory to everyone
My game crashed in the middle of a story, is there any way to pause a visual novel mission and continue it later without keeping the game open?
So i should use blue tokens that i have 14000 right
Is this correct set should I max this too?
Cannot, unfortunately
what do u guys think of my ppc score
so, with Qu in my roster (coming soon), i should be able to build, an Ice, Ultima S, Physical, Lightning, and ignition team no? should be good keeping in mind i started a month ago (i'm trying really hard to "fix" my starting mistakes lol, damn you Crimson Abyss)
Where did you get that 
WHAT THE HELL
?
u need 1.55m to be on par with advanced
not needed cause you have nanami
battlepass
Too low, you should be at least 1m6 to have the same skulls and better BC than in advanced zone
i have more choices
compare the Primal score to the other bosses
answer is lilith
from the battle pass thing
but im 3 weeks old payer
She is support right? So maxing these memories should be helpful?
its hard to do ppc
forgot i also have more choices
crimson weave is too trash
I like her
Can you choose the same one 12 times 
not a DPS meta unit anymore
i use crimson weave on projection
Early game meta doesn’t matter
none, but scire looks really cool
mb
Nice pfp though
Yeah, Nanami basically can carry both lightning and ignition with a decent results, with Selena and echo + Hanying you get your physical team, with wanshi and qu you have ice team, and wanshi + selena and echo for Glaciation team
thx bro, yours is awsome too
Have you unlocked Scire 
but i use her on on the maiden
no, i wish
Doesn’t matter, you basically got lower reward in ultimate zone with this score
Get back to advanced next week
What about Tenebrion 
no
nope :/
Okay, it’s up to you
yeah i was thinking of that
This is correct set for her right?
holy moly there's the Glaciation affix too, i forgot about that
sorry
you need to upgrade memories and do memory resonance
Yeah, do not skip any s rank if you can, they are very important 
Yea like if this correct I amma put resources
did u get 10s on knight projection?
Pick whoever you want 
yes
No worry, it’s really up to you, btw, i am not mad or anything 
bug timer?
hax
yeah
should be, unless i'm an idiot (could still be a possibility) mine's look like yours but completed
BruH
just do it faster
What bug 
🦈
no u

do you guys recycle memories?
its just visual thing u see
nothing else

doesnt change any run
Useless one ? Yeah, we do

I used to have a bunch of free useless memories that the game just give for no reason 
Oh wait, do not recycle
expound
I thought you asked for the scrap
ok, thank god i did not do it yet
nice
too late i recycled all my memos
Mb sir 
wait what's the difference
no btw, i didn't even know that "recycle" was an option, i was asking about scrap
also imagine scrapping lantern or some other set lmao
whel
just cancel the damn red orb animation


whel
gloria 
4 samantha
Entirely different, read it and you gonna know what is recycle mean
fair enough
So in the future, if you have any useless memories, just scrap it
how do i know if one is good or useless
Uhm, you should try to find that those memory can use on meta unit or not
If not then most of time, scrap it is fine
okok, thx
for example, the signature set for Feral is useless so you scrap it since she is a QTE bot 
^
damn. poor feral
This is an example for useless memories
No where i can use this at all 
because smooth brain
I still have my DPS Ayla set from her release 
Does anyone knows how to get the 4 and 4 set skills even though we only have 6 slots of memo???
With Harmonization, you need the character's sig weapon to do it
harmonize 6* weapon
How to harmonize?
For me when buy to much memo or a unit build change
I had lot of unused memo rn
So start to scap.
Where do I mainly get epitaph is he free or I gotta pull for him
what u need epitaph for right now
It requires 25 accelerators, red tube thingies, that can be farmed from the clash reflection game mode.
You go the 6 star weapon and you will find the train option, through it you will find Harmonization
free next patch
He isn't free but he'll show up in a free selector next patch
When's the next patch?
About a month from now
do upper part of hypertune add dps for elemental characters?
june 25
Xavvvv
Owkayy waitt and thanks for the info
only HP, and they give damage if youve done sequence pact
around less than 4 weeks from now, however the selector itself you won't be able to get day 1
I have no proper obli team since I only have uhh luna, ishmael for obli and saw obli including watanabe
timiiiiiiii
4 davinci
3 weeks 4 days left
Is it like a mission like free cw and feral?
??
No that's the full nihil team
You just need a healer
depends on who is going to be the QTE bot, or if they are the only QTE bot or not
Kinda?
if 2 gui or 2 eins
Got it
ultimately, it depends on the team and the unit
"QTE build" is too broad
How to summon the up to date cn teams image with collabs please
Thanks
"/cnteams"

Why is Wanshi a QTE bot, he is your main/sub DPS
OR are you talking about A rank Wanshi?
The qte bot meme are varying from
4pc elemental mem sets
2pc or 4pc Guinevere
2pc eins
4pc davinci
All of which are mixed and matched depending on the team you've got







