📨・meta-help

[edgy trench]

does anyone know if the DMC characters signature weapon also stays in banner forever?

[carmine reef]

they will not

[tight trellis]

not bug. that's just the boss annoying skills

[edgy trench]

okay thank you

[tight trellis]

good luck killing that boss with stigmata lolz

[elder cedar]

Do the bosses have any not mentioned weakness for team selection or its just free reign use who u want

In babel i mean

[tender ridge]

is my team okay

[tight trellis]

read the boss buffs that you select before mission starts. more buffs, higher the level

then select team accordingly

[elder cedar]

[waxen kindle]

can you send huaxu? i wanna check your memories
https://huaxu.app/

[tight trellis]

for story mode? yea not bad. for babel tower max level, nope

[subtle moth]

how do u get the beyond ending in derived from matrix? is the cut a new path node random?

[waxen kindle]

guides in pins iirc

[subtle moth]

ye im using guides in pin

[devout turret]

Are you Dread's brother

[subtle moth]

the Cut a New Path node for chpt5 does not pop out xD

[tender ridge]

what that

[tender ridge]

i played the game like 2 day tho

[devout turret]

Are you shore you didnt miss a previous event

[tight trellis]

he is the whel's bradder?

[devout turret]

You are whel

[subtle moth]

the guide only says in chapt 3 to choose Chain disaster node

ive been choosing that event 5 times xD

[tight trellis]

its app for ppl to stalk your account and giv you advice on teams

[tender ridge]

stalk ?

[waxen kindle]

maybe youre lacking some key item? i havent gone far with that mode yet

[graceful tendon]

is the lilith insatiable limited research worth it for f2p or is it just whale stuff

[devout turret]

There is a blue key you need

[waxen kindle]

web liệt kê mấy char và build của bro thôi

[elder cedar]

The latter

[graceful tendon]

ah okay noted

[inland crater]

Is Vergil replacing balter for Ultima slash?

O ok

[rapid field]

Sao đặt tên user nổi thế " người siêu cấp vip pro" - mà web đó có uy tín không nhỉ, thôi tôi là không share qua nó

[rapid field]

who knew, but kuro god know

[waxen kindle]

web ổn mà

tưởng scam hay j trời

[tender ridge]

ok o6ng

[rapid field]

sợ mất acc thôi hoặc bị hacked thôi

[whole falcon]

everyone knows vergil is replacing balter

[tender ridge]

will Dante and Vergil have a long term meta or only short

[waxen kindle]

ông có nhập mật khẩu vô hay j đâu mà sợ mất acc ??=)))

[whole falcon]

idk

[barren plank]

English only plz

[tender ridge]

i feel like they should add Nero too

[waxen kindle]

probably short term
their main damage is all in affix

[waxen kindle]

my fault gang

[tender ridge]

based on my experience on all gacha games ussually collab chars would be outmeta or very weak but hey we got aura and hype char i don't mind

[barren plank]

We have no way to know for sure tbh

[tender ridge]

its doesn't really matter tho what more important is aura and hype moment (REAL)

[whole falcon]

same

[rapid field]

Dante and vergil is meta, maybe not

[tender ridge]

i would like if they make Nero become the character perm instead collab

[waxen kindle]

well when pgr collabed with neir the meta was shattered to pieces lmfao

[whole falcon]

aura and hype moments >>> water and oxygen

[tender ridge]

does Nier automata chars still strong rn

[barren plank]

No

[tender ridge]

make sense

[barren plank]

They'vee been dead for forever

[waxen kindle]

nah its been like 2 years + lol

[tender ridge]

They lacked aura

[rapid field]

we need new colab, cyberpunk colab, i suport it

[barren plank]

Tho tbf NieR was sort of an unintentional design+the meta not being as fully fleshed out as it is now

[waxen kindle]

@tender ridge send huaxu so i can see ur memory builds bro

[tender ridge]

nobody gonna talk about how we missing devil trigger dante in game

[tender ridge]

my build is just normal i bought from the recommend thing except that i leave everything at lvl 25 (memory) then weapon

[rapid field]

nier is out of meta, or maybe even everything start and first, they never are meta

[waxen kindle]

ingame recommend? then its wrong build

[tender ridge]

the build suggestion thing that got LIKE by other players was it wrong?

[waxen kindle]

those are all bots

[tender ridge]

thats weird because i've read the set bonus those look perfectly fit what could go wrong with it

[whole falcon]

just use the commands here

[vale raft]

Nanami: Startrail <:s_rank:1287636749052412026><:tank:1290614106520555571><:lightning_element:1287636531321765959><:combustion:1288089747952107581>

Main DPS Set

Usage

Main DPS

Game Modes

High Difficulty, Pain Cage, Warzone, Clash Reflection, Norman

Description

Recommended for all ranks
General DPS

Memories

4x Herschell
2x Heisen

Memory Resonances

Top Slot : 6x Any ATK+15 Variant
Bottom Slot: 6x Signature

Harmony Recommendation

Heisen

[whole falcon]

i dont use grayravens anymore

[rapid field]

Holy grail I use cottie

[waxen kindle]

the problem is that those are dps builds
feral and cw arent dps when nanami is in the team
feral and cw should use support mems to boose nanami instead

[rapid field]

you don't play PGR?

[whole falcon]

the website

[fresh cairn]

one of the worst decisions that Kuro have ever made, i basically had to left the game during that time in CN

[rapid field]

OK baby

[tender ridge]

ye i used this but still no affix or resonances yet

[fresh cairn]

Wth with this delay

[whole falcon]

?

[tender ridge]

oh ya i used a support build for feral the 1 with 2 healing 4 QTE thing
and CW still using like a set dps lol

[fresh cairn]

I was intended to reply @rapid field about Nier collab

[alpine canopy]

how do people reach 600 in babel with just 3 teams? dont you need like 6 teams for 2 bosses? 3 teams on each boss
do people just divide 3 good teams into solo char each team?
still new here and first time doing babel

[tender ridge]

also where do i find free weapon for nanami i still using purple weapon free

said i obtain it on coop with very low chance

i can*

[rapid field]

chat wrong person

[fresh cairn]

the delay

mine internet connection is unstable somehow today

[normal sierra]

some chars can solo the stages, or do duo teams
but if you have 9 teams total, you don't have to bother with 1-2 member teams, just go in with a full team if you wanna clear faster
plan ahead who you will use where before you tackle the stages

[stable raven]

why doesn't it let me claim more mission rewards in the insatiable research???

says i hit a limit

[waxen kindle]

put 4davinci 2einstein on cw
4guinevere 2samantha on feral

[normal sierra]

that means what it says, you hit the limit, cuz yes, there is a limit (60)

[stable raven]

[waxen kindle]

free weapon????? in a gacha game?????

[rapid field]

600 is not easy, tower Ballard is max 110 x 3 = 330, while hypereal is 130 x3 = 390, so you need 5 team, 390 + 210, with 210 from 110 x2 = 220 is enough? or you wait tower cradle with hope the this tower have higher point than hyperreal, this maybe make the team lower than 5

[blazing axle]

Guys I haven't played in 264 days and I've been back this past four days, does anyone have tips on how I can get serum fast and 6 Star weapons

[tender ridge]

idk i saw the 5* one and press on obtain it said it can drop on some coop mode

[alpine canopy]

i see, mind giving me a quick few chars who can solo?
doing solo will run into orbs problem right? just push and do basic atk slowly build orb?

[carmine reef]

give up on getting it from coop

the 5* random drops are extremely rare and completely random

[waxen kindle]

lol peak kuro codes
coop mode doesnt give 5star weaps anymore

[tender ridge]

oh ya does nanami gonna be put at yellow

[carmine reef]

it does

[tender ridge]

huh

[carmine reef]

they took out the shards but there's still the chance for random drop

[waxen kindle]

well yes but no

[tender ridge]

where to get i m new just played 2 day lvl 61

[carmine reef]

but it's a random 5* weapon of any type in the game

[tender ridge]

but its can be drop from coop right

[carmine reef]

there is no way to get them for free right now because kuro hates you i guess

[tender ridge]

😠

[carmine reef]

they took out the weapon shards but aren't re-adding them until a later patch

so for this patch there is just no way to reliably farm them

[mellow vessel]

is lamia still worth it to SS? (im at her s5 atm and only have her 5 star weap)

[tender ridge]

alright

[carmine reef]

the random drops are not reliable at all

because, as mentioned, it's a random weapon of any type in the game

if you even get one

so for now you just suffer i guess

[waxen kindle]

there are like 60 units in this game bro
the chance of you getting a 5star weap is already low af
now multiply that with 1/60 to get the one that you need

[tender ridge]

better try than nothing

[waxen kindle]

they really pulled a minecraft diamond generator 💔

[alpine canopy]

i see, i read that someone said its doable with 3 teams to get 600, so that kinda got my hopes up, maybe there's a trick to char locked system that i dont know about, yk, so i can use proper team twice or sth, turns out there isnt
or you wait tower cradle with hope the this tower have higher point than hyperreal, this maybe make the team lower than 5
tower cradle is another type of babel?

[carmine reef]

you're wasting a lot of serum for those tries tho

[waxen kindle]

waste of time

[tender ridge]

oh which should i spend serum on

[blazing axle]

Guys, how do I get 6* weapons

[waxen kindle]

use the serums on simulation stages

[carmine reef]

simulation thing

[edgy trench]

in banner

[waxen kindle]

its a gacha game so take a wild guess

[rapid field]

you can reach SS for lamia for free, but free reouces have cost, it worth but also not, becuase we still dark team, but dark team now still is in 2nd-gen, so while if you have 3rd chars, focus free resouces on 3rd char, unless you use dark team right now

[hearty spear]

Does monthly pass a work alongside monthly pass c

[devout turret]

Nice cat

[waxen kindle]

car

[devout turret]

Car

Vroom vroom

[hearty spear]

Wide car

[devout turret]

Is that a roomba

[carmine reef]

no. but you can buy the special monthly pass supply instead

[nova forum]

segs

[hearty spear]

Wide roomba

[alpine canopy]

when is the Babel event usually held? every few months?

[rapid field]

i think babel tower cradle maybe have higher point, maybe each team of babel tower cradle could get highest point is 200 or 220, i don't know, i think tomorrow, cradle would unlocked?

[waxen kindle]

#📨・meta-help message

[normal sierra]

not all chars are suited for solo play, and it also depends on how well your chars are built
obviously, your solo won't go well if you try it with a lvl 10 base A rank teddy, but a max level sss+ teddy with proper mems can solo both bosses, for example
from the A ranks, teddy, bridget and yata can solo if you know what you doing
from the S ranks, tanks like Nanaknight, wanshi and wata, or newer amps like ish and lilith can do well
these are just examples. seeing how people solo even with fossil chars like phy wata A rank, I'm pretty sure you can solo with any char if you have the skillz for it

[alpine canopy]

oh mb, i thought cradle is another bable mode, like different event, mb, its the 3rd phase turns out

[rapid field]

i don't know, version nanami and lucia don't have babel tower, what about version before nanami, i don't know, i don't play PGR at that time

[tender ridge]

exactly what i do which is why i have 3k of the thing to exchange memory rn

[waxen kindle]

now go buy upgrade mats and shi you need from the shops
buy the new mems i mentioned for feral and cw

[tight trellis]

in the event click on Ruins shade, top right corner. over there you can get to 600 with 3 teams. basically there are 2 different sections in the babel tower event banner

[blazing axle]

OH, I haven't played in 264 days, any tips on how to obtain tickets fast, I have 150

[waxen kindle]

spam events

[normal sierra]

ohh, and about those orb issues
both ballard and hyperbicc got mechanics that refill your orbs, so you can abuse those to get back orbs much faster

[blazing axle]

I got Crimson Weave and That Dark Magician, are they good for grinding events?

[rapid field]

no, i means 600 points to get the mission "Inner Hall IX" with goal "reach babel strategic lv 600" in window "Cataclysmic Remnants" - i don't have enough 5 powerful team to play 5 teams, so i think i will wait babel tower cradle unlocked

[alpine canopy]

I see, thanks for going to the trouble listing down these chars, appreciate it
i have resources problem atm since im still new, so cant really experience that much, but ill try to solo using the chars you said here, like nanami and wanshi (dont have wata), just need to memorize the boss pattern and should be good

the boss mechanic? where can i find this info btw? the orb mechanic you just mentioned

[waxen kindle]

send huaxu
https://huaxu.app/

[edgy trench]

what is babel tower cradle?

[tight trellis]

oh that. only possible for long time f2p players or whels

[weak moat]

idk who to get with the s rank selector from the current event. I already got Qu from the blue selector, didn't know I could use that one for next patch. Who should I get next?
https://huaxu.app/eu/players/28128391/characters

[alpine canopy]

i see, so its random then, but ig, once the next bable comes around, i would have more teams to play with, prob all 6 teams

[tight trellis]

not worth the time doing, not worth the effort. enough rewards to claim with the minimal clear

[rapid field]

it is 3rd babel tower of babel tower, it is still locked , but i think we must fight with boss "cradle" , well

[normal sierra]

there is a button called "environment" or something like that at the bottom in the menu where you select the handicaps
click on that and you can read about them
I remember at hyperbricc you can parry the clones to get 3 orbs refilled, and they attack a lot the longer the fight goes
at ballard you can get energy fast by backstabbing him during the 2nd stage while he guards with the sword, that can really speed things up, so abuse that too (thou ballard punishes solo play pretty hard )

[waxen kindle]

the selector next patch only goes up to qu sooo

[blazing axle]

I'm Kenta Ryuji asia

[waxen kindle]

hi Kenta Ryuji asia im Hyro

[gray sigil]

hmmmm. (lost lullaby, vera (healer), feral (tank))

[rapid field]

never play it, first try babel tower with new account, i have one old account that i is used play babel tower of version vera garnet or fire liv emp, only defeat 1st tower (level 110) and failed to reach 2nd tower at highest level, while still dream about 3rd babel tower. But now i have new account with lien of power chars of 3rd, have confident to defeat tower 3rd, or failed

[weak moat]

yep I made a mistake there. Who should I get with that selector next patch? And this patch I still have the s rank selector which goes up to nana knight

[waxen kindle]

damn bruh you literally have no one

[rapid field]

6 teams, nice job, i only have 3 power teams to play babel tower, holy sh-

[waxen kindle]

oh so you spent the selector from thunder? thats not too bad

[weak moat]

my wanshi is ss3, lilith ss6, pyroath ss3

[weak moat]

I still have the selector from thunder but idk who to get

[waxen kindle]

wait what then where did you get qu

[tulip spade]

no but my scire is ss3 and my echo is sss0

[weak moat]

the free blue selector reset from this patch

didn't know I could save the blue selector for next patch

[waxen kindle]

ah kay

[tight trellis]

save bc. looks like you hve most of the good stuff. or ss3 someone. or get sig weap for someone

[edgy trench]

can i save this till after DMC patch?

[rapid field]

fu- you, sh- you, dam- you, how fast you got

[alpine canopy]

i see, alright will give it a try,
thanks for the useful tips and tricks
cant find any mention about orbs earlier, maybe im just blind xD
Thanks a lot!

[waxen kindle]

well too bad cuz the only good units in that selector are unc and qu
i'd take ss3 unc tho, better fire scores

[peak sonnet]

Yes

Can save

[tight trellis]

you gonna need solacetune for vergil team

[waxen kindle]

only ss3

[rapid field]

you want vergil sss+?

[opaque ridge]

no

[quiet lily]

nah u dont need solacetune

[edgy trench]

i know that, but DMC characters will most likely not comeback, so best to save my pulls for them

[edgy trench]

if possible

[waxen kindle]

shii hes solo ts?

[alpine canopy]

That's just my wishful thinking tbh xD, with selena patch, i should have the fire and phys team complete, just ice and dark left then

[tight trellis]

hell yeaa. skip everything save for dmc

[quiet lily]

[weak moat]

could get ss3 for nana knight, qu, wata, oblivion. Or go boost my ss3 pyroath up a bit with the thunder selector. still missing wanshi sig but I don't want to pull on weapon atm, saving bc

[peak sonnet]

Can't you cope with SS0 Hanying for vergil

[waxen kindle]

wadapak dym

[edgy trench]

... gonna get vera geriva or something for dante.

[weak moat]

ss3 unc > ss3 qu, nana knight? I know ss3 oblivion kinda sucks

[hearty spear]

What should I buy for 93 rainbow cards if I want progression? I've bought monthly pass and feral already

[peak sonnet]

I'm pretty sure vergil is not that dependent on Solacetune to do ts compared to bianca

[quiet lily]

just solo dmc kek

[waxen kindle]

is nana in selector next patch?

[quiet lily]

oi delete this sht, dont let ppl know

we gatekeeping this one

[weak moat]

selector next patch goes up to qu afaik. current thunder selector up to nana

[peak sonnet]

You really want them to whel

Or just do solo vergil

You ain't needing that much braincells anyways

[mellow vessel]

whaatt? so i can just use rosetta then?

[waxen kindle]

[insert that pic of kurai saying gph is for most meta advice]

[quiet lily]

either way they gonna brick

[peak sonnet]

Just don't play at this point

[fading kestrel]

oh he still needs her
just the difference isnt as massive

[peak sonnet]

Since Rosetta ain't gonna charge up ts

[waxen kindle]

kay so you cant get ss3 nana from that so the only 2 choices are epi and qu

[quiet lily]

no elper no mods, im safe now

[peak sonnet]

Mods and helpers always busy

[waxen kindle]

https://tenor.com/view/low-tier-god-meme-mods-gif-14385308006689816010

[edgy trench]

solacetune and alisa echo is vergils team right?

[weak moat]

Huh, I assumed the selector goes up to and includes nana. 1 dupe from ss = ss3 right?

[mellow vessel]

ss0 no sig enough or is she dependent on her sig?

[peak sonnet]

Up to shukra

[waxen kindle]

bro you literrally said it yourself that it goes up to qu

[rapid field]

i play PGR from version of nanami, so ice team - wakanai - i mean i don't have any chars of ice team except two chars of ice, one is wanshi and two is ayla, both is 50/50 shards to unlock, but i don't unlock both, while dark team I still build but trouble in free resource, focus for 3rd-gen chars except lilith, so it still bad to play except lilith can solo to defeat babel tower hyperreal at max level 130, not bad - while physical team have alisa and biance, both have 3-star weapon, the holy grail kuro give me, why kuro give me physical alisa and biance with 3-star weapon but not 4-star weapon

[peak sonnet]

You can't do her rot properly without sig and dlt

[normal sierra]

ohh, I just remembered, that orb from parry is actually a support effect you can enable after you set your team
make sure to enable both support effects before you start

[frank dome]

wait fr?

[weak moat]

The one selector next patch? Yeah, I assumed we are talking about the thunder selector this patch

bc idk who to pick there

[peak sonnet]

Yes some cn dudes already said it

[waxen kindle]

well people say to ss3 pyro but many also says to keep that thunder selector

[weak moat]

Hmm what do I do if I already have ss3 pyro? Just save?

[peak sonnet]

Ss3 pyro is only an upgrade for plasma keep that in mind

[raw linden]

Hey guys A-ranks seems easy to get shards can someone tell me which A ranks are the best to use when you make them turn into SS-ranks? They say teddy:decryptor and yata:Fulgor are the best which one of them are greater?

[raw swift]

Teddy

[frank dome]

then whats the vergil team?

[peak sonnet]

Some A ranks need to be SSS to get shred

[raw swift]

Vergil hanying and alisa

[peak sonnet]

So teddy definitely the best

[raw swift]

Teddy wants ss3

[frank dome]

@raw swift?

[raw swift]

Well yeah technically

[normal sierra]

teddy wants sss+

[raw linden]

Shred?

[fading kestrel]

dependant

[raw swift]

But hes not as bad as balter

[raw linden]

Alright I'll make her become SSS then

[raw swift]

No 21 has no shred below sss

[raw swift]

SS3 for now is fine

[raw linden]

And also should I pick take oblivion or Ishmael's weapon?

[raw swift]

Ishmael

[peak sonnet]

Vergil can actually stack the ts charge bar thingy better than bianca

[raw linden]

Dunno what ss3 cause I'm newbie does it mean sss?

[raw swift]

No it means SS+3 nodes unlocked

[rapid field]

what about physical selena, you skip her and vera? how sad you don't love two girl

[tight trellis]

SS phase 3

[vale raft]

Teddy: Decryptor

Skill - SSS

Doomsday Paradox

Level 1 - Unlocked at SS3

Pinging Stress Orb also generates the Integer Overflow Field for 8s.
Doubles the Dark DMG increase from Decryptor's Dark Radiation.

Level 2 - Unlocked at SSS

Each Analysis Point will further increase the Base DMG of Chordal Dissonance and Play Back by 0.4%. When Analysis Points reach 150, the Base DMG of Chordal Dissonance and Play Back increases by 150%, and Chordal Dissonance grants 3 Signal Orbs of a random color.

[raw swift]

This is ss3, ss with 3 nodes unlocked

I forgot the angle here is uhhh

[raw linden]

Ooohhh

[raw swift]

Just don't look there that's not the focus

[tight trellis]

ummm nice arch

[raw linden]

I see

[raw linden]

That's a good SS right there LOL

[peak sonnet]

[quiet lily]

why

is she

[icy otter]

Took me a while to realise what was happening in that pic

[quiet lily]

[raw swift]

And this is SSS

[rapid field]

i have one question, kuro make this pose of hangying or you capture the this pose of hangying, nice pose

[tight trellis]

SSS = whel territory

[peak sonnet]

Captures it perfectly

[raw swift]

Smh she's an a rank

[raw linden]

So many below 45 memory lvl💔 I max all of my S character so they can be powerful, I recommend nanami and CW to make them powerful

[tender ridge]

does two ensteina stack the resistance element reudce

i m only played like 2 day don't expecting too much

[waxen kindle]

Change 2 eins on nanami

[raw swift]

No

[tender ridge]

to Tifa?

[alpine canopy]

hey same here, i started on literally last week of nanami patch, and pretty much have the same chars you mentioned, yeah dark team is a problem since i heard lamia and scire not recommended to pull anymore due to how old they are
fortunately we got the full lightning team from thunderbolt, so thats ez lightning team complete, ill get selena for phys team and hanying from the 15k perma banner, get vera geiravor on debut, then get wata from anniv selector, that will complete my fire team, do you reckon they will release ice dps next? kinda dont want to pull for qu
yeah weapon list is tough haha, since almost everyone needs their signature

[peak sonnet]

No

[raw linden]

You'll become better I download the game 7days ago

[tender ridge]

make sense

[raw swift]

Wait i meant the 2eins buff doesn't stack if another unit has 2eins

[vale raft]

Nanami: Startrail <:s_rank:1287636749052412026><:tank:1290614106520555571><:lightning_element:1287636531321765959><:combustion:1288089747952107581>

Main DPS Set

Usage

Main DPS

Game Modes

High Difficulty, Pain Cage, Warzone, Clash Reflection, Norman

Description

Recommended for all ranks
General DPS

Memories

4x Herschell
2x Heisen

Memory Resonances

Top Slot : 6x Any ATK+15 Variant
Bottom Slot: 6x Signature

Harmony Recommendation

Heisen

[tender ridge]

ofc i m quick to learn

[waxen kindle]

@tender ridge

[peak sonnet]

Just use 2pc heisen instead

If you got no sig

[raw swift]

2eins will still work with a unit's innate shred

[raw linden]

I have 7 S character cause I grind everyday it's good for you to become like me

[raw swift]

Isn't fran a better lightning 2pc

[alpine canopy]

ohh so thats why i cant find it, right i see it now, Thanks again!

[peak sonnet]

Ain't that only for feral

[dusky quarry]

https://huaxu.app/eu/players/13596314/characters

[raw swift]

Feral 2pc is lightning dmg

Every 2pc is an elemental dmg

[tender ridge]

no i will become myself

[hearty spear]

Could someone explain how this team works? This is my first full team (ish weapon will come later)

[peak sonnet]

I don't usually use the normal lightning team since it's so bad

[vale raft]

Chang Wuzi ★★★★★★

2pc Set Bonus

Physical DMG increases by 10%.

4pc Set Bonus

Harmonic Orb's Base DMG increases by 100%. The effect of Piercing Blow launched by Hanying: Solacetune increases by 20%. Upon quitting the Lunartone Field, the field will still exist for 12s and deal 50% Physical DMG to enemies within it once every second.

ATK

132

CRIT

66

DEF

223

HP

1491

[peak sonnet]

I just zaza it

[vale raft]

Fran ★★★★★★

2pc Set Bonus

Lightning DMG increases by 5%, Extra DMG bonus increases by 5%.

4pc Set Bonus

Dusk Fluorescence and Forest Predator's Base DMG increases by 100%. Wolfspirit Release's Base DMG increases by 70%.

ATK

132

CRIT

66

DEF

223

HP

1491

Heisen ★★★★★★

2pc Set Bonus

All ATK increases by 3% and Lightning DMG increases by 7%.

4pc Set Bonus

Extra DMG Bonus increases by 10%. Attacking a target inflicts them with Electrocute, which decreases the target's Lightning Resistance by 15%. Electrocute lasts for 8s and has a 10s cooldown against the same target. Attacking a target inflicted with Electrocute causes a thunderstorm that deals 600% Lightning DMG. This effect has a 6s cooldown against the same target.

ATK

134

CRIT

66

DEF

219

HP

1491

Heisen ★★★★★★

2pc Set Bonus

All ATK increases by 3% and Lightning DMG increases by 7%.

4pc Set Bonus

Extra DMG Bonus increases by 10%. Attacking a target inflicts them with Electrocute, which decreases the target's Lightning Resistance by 15%. Electrocute lasts for 8s and has a 10s cooldown against the same target. Attacking a target inflicted with Electrocute causes a thunderstorm that deals 600% Lightning DMG. This effect has a 6s cooldown against the same target.

ATK

134

CRIT

66

DEF

219

HP

1491

[raw swift]

Amplifier 2pcs usually have the best element dmg bonuses

[peak sonnet]

Heisen is better bro

Since edm is wack

[vale raft]

PGR Stat Priority

Physical Damage

1. DEF/Phys DEF Down(only up to 100%)
2. Physical Resist Down
3. Extra DMG Reduction Down
4. Crit DMG
5. Extra DMG Boost (EDB)
6. Base DMG % Up
7. ATK % Up
8. Final ATK Up (Cub ATK Boost)

Elemental Damage

1. Elemental Resist Down
2. Extra DMG Reduction Down
3. Extra DMG Boost (EDB)
4. Elemental DMG % Up
5. Base DMG % Up
6. ATK % Up
7. Final ATK Up (Cub ATK Boost)

[chilly trail]

Till end

[waxen kindle]

Ele dam > edb

[fresh hill]

Omg

[tender ridge]

what edb

oh nvm

[mellow vessel]

I got 975 skulls rn, is nanami ss good? or should i just save my skulls for either epitaph and solacetune when i get them? (planning to get solacetune in thunderbolt research and epitaph on the upcoming s rank selector)

[rapid field]

i think we can wait next ice dps, maybe tank or attacker or maybe amp or abnormal class as anihilator or observer, about vanguard - maybe not, kuro keep silent on this class, i wait kuro release new ice dps or above class of 3rd-gen, for now, 3rd-gen is current and future, while i wait kuro release Qu in free, what ever, i don't knwo when kuro make Qu free, so many version/patch in future

[raw swift]

Fran is better then?

[waxen kindle]

Ss0 is always the minimum invest (except for amplifiers)

[normal sierra]

there is no point in making 2pc fran on nana if you will change it to heisen later anyway (assuming getting sig weapon at some point)
especially for newbies, cuz they are usually low on resources

[dusky quarry]

You should pull Ishmael

And get Lilith

[raw swift]

Hypothetically speaking

I mean I was contemplating 2pc fran

[tender ridge]

who's that

[raw swift]

Then I suddenly got jumpscared by nana sig

[waxen kindle]

Run the numbers for us mambro

[steady otter]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/827230733311016980/1371493035065741464/image0.gif

[tender ridge]

shes free so probably i gonna get her i only need 3 ticket left for her

[raw swift]

Fran should be better

[normal sierra]

[rapid field]

nanami is 1st powerful god-tier 3rd-gen tank or god tank of PGR, Nanam can fight almost all elements

[raw swift]

EDB > Elemental DMG Bonus it says here

Attack is even lower

[peak sonnet]

We need the math dudes here

We're too dumb for this

[tender ridge]

yessir

[frosty cave]

how do you locate the new sign up quests

[rapid field]

ok, i got it, EDB is larger than Elemental DMG Bonus, right

[raw swift]

Only on elements

[normal sierra]

more playing, less mathing

[peak sonnet]

Have you seen zex math for ish

[alpine canopy]

agreed, i think the best way to catchup is keep pulling new chars instead of trying to pull older units that might get powercrept the moment we managed to get them
for now, just use wanshi as sole dps for ice team ig , hopefully they bring qu free soon, either voucher or dorm

[raw swift]

Yes

[high ivy]

https://www.reddit.com/r/PunishingGrayRaven/comments/1kxytk2/holy_the_new_ppc_cage_boss_is_tankly_asf/

I

[normal sierra]

what too much free time does to people

[high ivy]

Isaw this... apparently i'm not the only one

dark team seems to be lacking

[peak sonnet]

You can slap them with math

[raw swift]

It seemed pretty easy for me although I do have a pretty high invest team

[verbal cloak]

me first time doing ulti stage and I take 2mins lmao

[waxen kindle]

It's just 27mil hp bro

[peak sonnet]

I still get 587k with wack dark team

[raw swift]

1tap was 590k

[scarlet lotus]

Question, in the nihil team who should be the leader?

[peak sonnet]

Ish

[high ivy]

for me, dark team is the issue... physical I don't have full invest Bianca, I'm just waiting for Selena

[normal sierra]

I malded 14s hell projection for more than an hour

[rapid field]

need math to calculate bc for roll next char

[verbal cloak]

I only have lilith for dark and I used my nihil on da shark lol

[peak sonnet]

You forgot to add the requirements

[high ivy]

I'm trying to get Lilith to SS2

[verbal cloak]

why stop at ss2

ss3 is the sweet spot, but Im like 2 weeks away

[waxen kindle]

Ss2 does nothing bro

[high ivy]

is there a limit to voucher exchange....

ppc exchange always stop at ss

[peak sonnet]

No but the discount has

[verbal cloak]

don't tell me you vouchered her to ss

[jolly sierra]

SS2 is max from exchange

[scarlet lotus]

Question, in the nihil team who should be the leader?

[peak sonnet]

Ishamael bro

[verbal cloak]

yes but you do 7pcs from voucher shop and bam

[high ivy]

.....

[dusky quarry]

No way..... Brother

[steady otter]

https://tenor.com/view/wuwa-wuthering-waves-wuthering-jinhsi-jinhsi-wuwa-gif-393666665402773236

[normal sierra]

those blasted requirements are the very reason I malded so long
I needed to reso and HT my qte bots to squeeze in that last 0.0000001% HP bar dmg that bricked ~20 of my good runs
but yeah, requirements pretty high

[verbal cloak]

did you not get her 20shards from the banner :/

[jolly sierra]

Oh

[high ivy]

I did

[dusky quarry]

Litterally the girl in the main screen

[verbal cloak]

and 10 shards in da voucher shop?

[peak sonnet]

Did this include the mental pain of using scire?

[verbal cloak]

u get a total of 30shards from skulls

[rapid field]

i want four, qu in all, dorm, voucher, Page cage, and 4th is another pack for free

[high ivy]

skulls, I haven't exchange for lilith, still exchanging for Ishmael

[raw swift]

I miscalculated my voucher usage and accidentally got ss6 or something

[verbal cloak]

always enough to SS any new S frame

[verbal cloak]

u just need to be patient then, you should get enough skulls for her ss3

[normal sierra]

she just qte bot, there was no real usage of her
her fairly high qte dmg is what saved me at the end

[peak sonnet]

Daren really needs to go

[high ivy]

PPC dark has always been hard to beat

[verbal cloak]

can I have ur pfp

[peak sonnet]

It's not fun anymore

[high ivy]

take me forever

[verbal cloak]

ty, ily

[high ivy]

why you do that to little Selena!!!!???

[rapid field]

ishmeal is leader of nihil

[waxen kindle]

Yeet

[verbal cloak]

meal

[jolly sierra]

Commander always so cruel

[peak sonnet]

What i want to do with ish after malding for hours

Void malding is real

[quiet lily]

this waht i would do for whole dark team

[high ivy]

I'll admit, CUTE

[quiet lily]

stupid ass unresponsive input everywhere

[peak sonnet]

Git good bro

[normal sierra]

mald 7s sharky kill with ish, that's the real mald

[peak sonnet]

I use wanshi and only got 9 sec bro

[high ivy]

if building Nihil team with Ishmael and Luna... who should be 3rd party member?

[quiet lily]

lamia suddenly feels slow af, ping wasnt as responsive as before

[high ivy]

yes!!! This, the orb suddenly doesn't appear at all

[scarlet lotus]

So she's the main damage dealer and luna is sub-dps , who's the qte support?

[peak sonnet]

Lamia feels disgusting to use in this meta

[verbal cloak]

fish not in da water is fish dat is slow

[peak sonnet]

Any amp but you probably got lilith so use her

[quiet lily]

and when i spam button, she eats too many orbs

[rapid field]

I think I saw this picture somewhere, someone's avatar, right?

[high ivy]

lilith work well with Nihil!?

[verbal cloak]

if u read what they replied to, then yes

[scarlet lotus]

Oh okay thx

[peak sonnet]

I stole it from some selena simp

[waxen kindle]

Luna changes all buffs to void bro

[peak sonnet]

Yes

[alpine canopy]

might aswell be the whole package xD, like cw feral
its kuro, so its possible

[high ivy]

I didn't know... I always use Luna as main dps

[peak sonnet]

But I don't even use Lilith in nihil rn since she's not 3S

[mellow vessel]

fr i just played on startrail patch, regretted getting her as my first blue target..

[rapid field]

replied, so "yes"

[normal sierra]

I didn't notice any changes in fish
thou I didn't play much with her lately, only some 1-2 taps at lilith ppc last week

[peak sonnet]

[vale raft]

Luna: Oblivion

Skill - Class Passive (Lv. 18)

Annihilator

Extra DMG Bonus increases by 20.0%. Elemental Resistance Reduction and DMG Increase applied by any member will become universally effective for all elements.

[peak sonnet]

We just zaza with wanshi and luna instead

[waxen kindle]

@high ivy she changes all buffs to universal mb

[high ivy]

<- me

[peak sonnet]

Glb can't read

[hearty spear]

What is memory rescue | after?

[verbal cloak]

our future is bleak

[quiet lily]

u click go

[rapid field]

No! you stole from you

[quiet lily]

game will lead u to it

[high ivy]

I'm Guilty

[hearty spear]

Yes but theres no specific mission in memory rescue called after, do I just run through them until I get it?

[quiet lily]

sure that works too

[high ivy]

Selena gonna be awesome!!! Next month! Next Patch!!!

[verbal cloak]

selena may cry as I will not be pulling

[peak sonnet]

Get brick

[high ivy]

DMC saving?... no Vera pulling too?

[normal sierra]

nana ate my midlena ss3 funds, so she won't be awesome for me

[peak sonnet]

[verbal cloak]

dante needs vera

so I am getiing vera

[frosty cave]

is the blue card guaranteed gonna reset or nah😭

[frank kindle]

Ss3 selena, vera and sss bros

[verbal cloak]

whelfie is alive again

[frank kindle]

Just woke up

[verbal cloak]

alive and whel

[peak sonnet]

But you got some secret funds to 3S Vergil right

[rapid field]

but i have one question: what decides the so called "possible" of kuro bringing a character to the dorm, why are 2 ice characters in the dorm, meaning wanshi and ayla, is it possible that this is a "possible" trend, that an ice character will be added to the dorm shop, we should hope it's Qu?

[frank kindle]

Gotta work

[verbal cloak]

the almighty credit card

[verbal cloak]

wtf is your wurk sked

[frosty cave]

how to get hanying

[chilly trail]

Once a year thing

[peak sonnet]

Bro is employed

[frank kindle]

Graphic designer in ad industry

[normal sierra]

if you call openly skipping him a secret, then yes

[frosty cave]

bru

[frank kindle]

[peak sonnet]

🤝

[verbal cloak]

may you 🧱 their sales with your ads

[frank kindle]

Lmao, some guy tried to lecture my spending on pgr some time ago poor student boy

[peak sonnet]

[quiet lily]

fk whel

[verbal cloak]

why even bother lecturing an adult where they spend their money on lol

[peak sonnet]

They're not employed you can't blame them

[whole falcon]

p-please censor...

[alpine canopy]

imo, is it really a coincidence that 2 of the 3 free dorm characters are Ice? Idk xD. At this point, they might as well make Ice fully accessible for free.

[whole falcon]

already is

bambinata

shukra is so mid investing into wanshi is better

[rapid field]

I should take selena and the whole town, I think, will selena bless me, I'm worried I lose pity 30/30 on selena's weapon banner, so does selena need sig?

[open basalt]

hey, i need suggestion i am new, i got alpha from event and now i unlock the free s rank choice pack, which one should i choose

[peak sonnet]

Yes

[peak sonnet]

Send photo

[high ivy]

Selena will ascent my physical team!!!

[frank kindle]

Jelousy i suppose

[alpine canopy]

does wanshi needs to be SSS for solo? whats' the min?
coz if i can get by without qu, ill be glad to

[rapid field]

so i decide i would get selena weapon, now vera, vera need her sig?

[peak sonnet]

Yes

[verbal cloak]

everybody need sig

[peak sonnet]

Pick Rosseta

[verbal cloak]

skip collab for every other unit 🧱

[peak sonnet]

Real

[rapid field]

waiting for kuro to say love "free Qu in dorm shop" wait is happy

[open basalt]

can you tell me more about it

[frank rapids]

Am I bricked for spending bc for lamia's sig?

[peak sonnet]

Just pick Rosseta rigor for a phys tank for now

[frank rapids]

Didnt get it yet btw... (22 pity)

[peak sonnet]

Yes bro

[open basalt]

one more thing i have lilith too

[peak sonnet]

I don't even use my SS0 r1 lamia

[verbal cloak]

using bc in wb = 🧱

[rapid field]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/1123942046995075112/1352650033199054908/ezgif-4-3df78defeb.gif

[peak sonnet]

Since she's so bad

[open basalt]

so i would like character that support any of these two

[frank rapids]

How am I supposed to get character's sig then??

[verbal cloak]

simple, don't

[peak sonnet]

Lilith could work as a dark dps and void amp

[alpine canopy]

im on the same waiting list

[frank rapids]

For dark content

Shes seriously ahh S0 and sigless

[peak sonnet]

https://youtu.be/K1tMV9MBYhY?si=wFtNdQv3-LWZVbb- we use this instead

[elder cedar]

Just use lilith the psycho

[peak sonnet]

Lamia is so bad compared to gen 3

[frank rapids]

I want a smoother rotation

[open basalt]

i dont know about the game elements or buffers,,, tell me if there is anyone that can buff my alpha or lilith

[elder cedar]

Smooth deez

[rapid field]

[peak sonnet]

Tanks can shred your enemies and amp can act as buffer

[rapid field]

wait another new aquarium lamia queen

[frank rapids]

I dont have SSS wanshi bruv💔 My wanshi is not even SS

[peak sonnet]

Attackers on their own is bad

[verbal cloak]

get nanami startrail from the standard banner (blue tickets with 40 pity) to complete your lightning team. but don't spend black cards

[peak sonnet]

Then I don't recommend getting lamia sig

It won't change your situation

[mellow vessel]

any chance she getting leap skills?

[verbal cloak]

is wanshi even real

[peak sonnet]

Hypereal ain't even got a leap yet

[frank rapids]

Honestly it will tho

[peak sonnet]

No lol

Lamia is so bad bro

[frank rapids]

Yes lol dlt always help I can do double ult with her if so

[peak sonnet]

You also only got her to S

[frank rapids]

You're talking like I can't SS her

[frank dome]

cant you just get startrail from the phantom thingy?

[open basalt]

@peak sonnet i have alpha but why its not showing owned in that photo

[frank dome]

Or do u nees to obtain her first?

[frank rapids]

You cant buy fragments of characters you dont own

[peak sonnet]

Sure go buddy try getting her to SS0 and get her sig and get bricked that she's not doing that much dmg

[peak sonnet]

Not in the selector

[frank rapids]

Shes the only dark attacker rn bru how am I bricked💔

[fading kestrel]

no info on it, but its unlikely

[high ivy]

my heart, broken...

[frigid moth]

So how much of a damage increase is SSS+ for DMC characters?

[open basalt]

@peak sonnet liv is showing as owned but not alpha

[verbal cloak]

I feel like nero would suit a white monster more tbh

[frank rapids]

Just need her sig and SS0 and my dark team will be balanced

[peak sonnet]

This dude is no saving

[rapid field]

Lamia is so beautiful lips, she is not bad, she is pretty

[frank rapids]

I have enough time to save for pianissimo too so why not

[verbal cloak]

bcz she's bad? idk

[dire fossil]

Yeah pretty bad

[peak sonnet]

Ye why not it's your choice anyways to get brick

[frank rapids]

Bad and no replacement...

[peak sonnet]

She's not in the selector

[frank rapids]

If u say Im bricked then what do u suggest I'd pull for now?

[verbal cloak]

how does lamia scale with an 3s+ jetavie?

[frigid moth]

As someone with an invested Lamia, Lilith curbstomps her and it's no competition

[high ivy]

I guess Lamia can be sub DPS

[peak sonnet]

Pre nerf S+ 5* wep jetavie was cooking SS0 r1 lamia

[frank rapids]

I have lilith already ik that lamia is the sub dps

[peak sonnet]

But she got nerf so much

[verbal cloak]

that's kinda stupid

[whole falcon]

https://tenor.com/view/curb-stomp-goofy-ahh-chichawaga-is-this-the-first-meme-of-2024-brody-gif-7050385004164251020

[peak sonnet]

Show me your huaxu so i can help

[frank rapids]

In my bio

[frosty cave]

whats the best way to grind black cards?

[fading kestrel]

do weeklies. and yknow, play the game

[verbal cloak]

where did u get lamia?

[frigid moth]

Weeklies

[frank rapids]

Idk kinda forgot I think I got her randomly while using free fate tickets

[verbal cloak]

weeklies, story, just doing general content that shows that u get bc from em

[fading kestrel]

GOAT

[verbal cloak]

random luck is crazy

[peak sonnet]

Invest in wanshi instead of lamia

[peak sonnet]

Pulled a trash can tho

[frank rapids]

Wanshi dont need HIS sig right?

[verbal cloak]

kinda like that other guy that got alisa instead of luna from a random pull too

[peak sonnet]

How many bc you got rn?

[rapid field]

sound jetavie good, i see the way she fight, so amazing, hope it work with many boss

[frank rapids]

About 30

[peak sonnet]

They didn't expect her to be that good so they nerfed her so bad

[regal ledge]

morning peps

time to mald

[peak sonnet]

30k? Then get wanshi sig

[peak sonnet]

Another day of malding

[frank rapids]

30... No k

[peak sonnet]

Oof nahh

[raw swift]

rough

[rapid field]

so, jetavie is good or bad?

[verbal cloak]

who cares, build her cuz she's crazy

[frank rapids]

Probably will be another yata case

[peak sonnet]

She's good for an A rank but can't replace anyone in meta

[lean plinth]

weapon res for lilth dps?

[peak sonnet]

Dlt

[frank rapids]

Dlt

[verbal cloak]

@peak sonnet who should I prio 2s https://huaxu.app/ap/players/20469799/characters

[rapid field]

yes sir, i build her as my yata

[frigid moth]

DLT first then the atk increases

[peak sonnet]

Ishamael

[lean plinth]

ty

[verbal cloak]

even if my solace has sig?

[frigid moth]

Lilith you want triple res at some point

[peak sonnet]

Yes

[verbal cloak]

oke

[rapid field]

i like yata, A-rank char of 3rd-gen better than 2nd A-rank chars, so not bad

[lean plinth]

my friend is asking for all three

[waxen vine]

daily reset is in 12 mins right?

[lean plinth]

💀

[regal ledge]

yes

[rapid field]

we need protest kuro for her, she can not be nefted

[waxen vine]

thanks

[peak sonnet]

How's your dark score

[verbal cloak]

u've been here a year, how dya not know

[peak sonnet]

Already too late

[regal ledge]

still focus on nihil for now till i get 5m+

still 2m+ on dark

[peak sonnet]

The nihil malding is never ending at this point

[waxen vine]

cus i always use to get to playing the game like an hour or so more later from now at the earliest every day

[regal ledge]

true but at least 5m to calm my mind

[frigid moth]

btw is 4pc guin better than 2pc ein/2pc guin for warzone?

[rapid field]

holy grail , holy sh- why kuro faster than among us

[regal ledge]

you will need the 4dv for proc

[main jacinth]

Is geiravor good?

[lean plinth]

weapon res for all three slots for dps Lilith?

[frigid moth]

I always have da vinci in some kind of form

[main jacinth]

I wanna save for her

[frigid moth]

Extremely

[lean plinth]

so far I know dlt, atk increases

[frigid moth]

best amp by a mile

[peak sonnet]

The gap between me and the no 1 is so fcking close rn

[main jacinth]

So maybe danta, geira epitaph as new fire team?

[rapid field]

vera geiravor is good, fire amp powerful first of 3rd-gen, you see, how important she is

[regal ledge]

my god the anxiety

[lusty minnow]

beat him

[main jacinth]

And she crazy and hot

[frigid moth]

and dante, geira, and startrail for burn affix

[peak sonnet]

Bro will be shocked at last min

[main jacinth]

Oooh right startrail ignition

[lusty minnow]

[solemn spoke]

sss or also below

[waxen vine]

how many yellow tickets we suppose to get this patch?

[frigid moth]

She gets the amp buff other amps get at SS ( the 100%+ one at SSS)

[verbal cloak]

in total, 8k

[waxen vine]

are there more events coming in this patch or like we got em all already?

[main jacinth]

Also the lilith pull it says mission claim limit, wat dat

[frigid moth]

max tickets one can claim

[orchid owl]

I think babel was the last

[verbal cloak]

im pretty sure they're all out by now

[waxen vine]

daam meaning i might have gotten 8k already thanks @verbal cloak and @orchid owl

[orchid owl]

it's crazy
pgr patch lasts like 45 days and 2-3 weeks in you can complete everything

[dire imp]

best harmony for pyroath?

[orchid owl]

it's a good thing

[verbal cloak]

watchu pulling for anyways?

[waxen vine]

ishmael

[orchid owl]

cottie
use /build in #📨・bot-info if ever in doubt

[verbal cloak]

its really good for qol tbh, gives you more time to breathe

[frigid moth]

Also for newcomers DO NOT pull on Lilith's second banner, there is nothing there that won't be free to get in the next couple patches

[raw linden]

Uhhh is recommended equipment for teddy which is support focus a good idea to lvl up?

[orchid owl]

coating?

[verbal cloak]

will her coating be in the shop?

[main jacinth]

Got lilith to ss3 im happy

[verbal cloak]

I might get the bp so I might want her weap skin

[waxen vine]

is your teddy sss+?

[frigid moth]

Coating will appear in free shop

[rapid field]

Cottie is ruler god of energy, law of energy of PGR World

[verbal cloak]

nice

[raw linden]

No but I made her turn into S yesterday

[waxen vine]

umm lilith exist both are dark support / amp but lilith is better since base S and free with sig and cub so no point in investing in teddy anymore

[main jacinth]

Teddy is the mantis blade girl with ice element right? Is she good? She A rank iirc

[robust mango]

Is ss3 lilith is good?

[frigid moth]

CRACKED

[rapid field]

very good, it make her solo, actually you can solo her even at rank SS0

[robust mango]

Why?

[raw linden]

I can't make her become ss3 I got her shard already in her banner I am on phase 2 banner of her but I completed the mission

[solemn spoke]

teddy is the dark element gamer girl you're talking about someone else

[frigid moth]

Her damage output is comparable to characters like Startrail need I say more

[waxen vine]

bro get one free copy of her from the initial free banner than get her 30 shards from pain cage and you get free 20 shards from initial banner from shop just get 10 more shards from trade voucher and she is ss3

[robust mango]

is it cracked at buffing or at the dmg

[lean plinth]

in terms of damage or in terms of qte amp

[mellow vessel]

getting liv empyrea at voucher shop is alright if im not pulling for vera fire amp?

[robust mango]

[waxen vine]

that is bambi

[frigid moth]

That's a brick in the making

[main jacinth]

Ah

[raw linden]

Noted

[robust mango]

Wait is her sig important?like for she does a dmg she needs her sig?

[frigid moth]

Geira will require way less and at SS provide the same buffs Empyrea provides from SSS rank

[mellow vessel]

cant get her cause ill be dumping all my cards on dmc

[verbal cloak]

u can't use dante team without vera

[main jacinth]

Will vergil replace stigmata in phys team?

[frigid moth]

her sig just gives energy it's whatever the CUB on the other hand

[verbal cloak]

like, you don't even want to use dante atp

[verbal cloak]

no, selena will

[lusty minnow]

just dumping yellow ticket for her, cause dmc can only use bc

[robust mango]

So its not so important she just need her cub?

[frigid moth]

You'll still want Gera for Dante

[main jacinth]

Damn vergil weak then

[frigid moth]

No you need wep for harmony and it's guaranteed so why not

[solemn spoke]

hoyoshill pfp checks out 🥀

[verbal cloak]

hey, no fighting, we ain't in genchat

[robust mango]

Cuz i sold it for ish weapon

[mellow vessel]

i wont even play dante cause i have pyroath, maybe ill play him for style but vergil is my focus

[rapid field]

You would get her sig from lilith banner, so problem how many usb you have and can resonate her sig weapon, she need sig and you would have sig unless you don't play the version of ishmeal

[waxen vine]

Foolishness this is what they want you to think

[verbal cloak]

u do u man, but when the wz weather is for dante, its finna be rough using him

[main jacinth]

Im saving the choice voucher for geiravor sig

[solemn spoke]

didn't check 🥀

[robust mango]

I played pgr for ishmael so i play on now version but i sold her weapon for ish weapon so im asking is he important

[frigid moth]

Apparently both are pretty cracked from what I've seen from CN gameplay, what level of investment do you plan on doing?

[frigid moth]

WHAT WHY?!

[waxen vine]

WAIT you scraped liliths weapon?

[frigid moth]

You need Lilith's weapon for Ishmael team 😭

[regal ledge]

wait what am i reading...

[frigid moth]

Never scrap weapon that's beyond brick

[mellow vessel]

lol i aint even hoyoshill i play both games and have fun, dont care bout comparings and toxic stuffs

[robust mango]

Idk what did i sold but i found out i have 300 6 star weapon coins so i sold her weapon and got ish weapon

[verbal cloak]

istg ur the god of 🧱

[vapid salmon]

when tank/amp on element is 5 star wep is it always better to use ishmael (with sig and harmo) instead

[whole falcon]

except 5 stars

[verbal cloak]

that's what I do too lol

[waxen vine]

🧱 🧱 🧱 🧱 🧱 🧱 🧱 🧱 🧱 🧱 🧱 🧱 🧱

[frigid moth]

5 stars are the only thing worth scrapping you get like 100s of them

[rapid field]

what the hell your emotional damage you can do with lilith, it is pain for lilith love, sorry, mistake, love of kuro give for you via hands of lilith

[robust mango]

I mean isnt her weapon just for energy it isn’t important

[mint burrow]

how do i win against vonnegut? do i really just have to keep dodging?

[verbal cloak]

there is no single signature weapon that isn't important

[frigid moth]

Weapon harmony

[waxen vine]

you could just save up to pull ishmaels weapon never scrap weapons specially sig

[frigid moth]

Allows you to run stuff like 4pc guin or 2pc eins/2pc guin

[verbal cloak]

that energy loss can fck up ur rotas too

[robust mango]

I had 300 so i wont let that go so i got ish with it

[frigid moth]

And she NEEDS DLT to play smoothly

[verbal cloak]

how did u even get 300

oh wait, ARE U D GUY THAT SCRAPPED WANSHI WEAP

[frigid moth]

THEY DID WHAT?!

[robust mango]

Why? I just now do perfect dodge then do the blue orbs and immediately i have the ult and then ulting and then do a poop then ulting again then go to the dps

[lusty minnow]

ignore him, he rage bait

[robust mango]

No i scraped wata weapon and the other weapon i dont remember

[mellow vessel]

well shite i guess i bricked my acc two times already, first is getting lamia on my first blue target before reset and getting 30x empyrea shards on voucher shop. I should've joined this discord earlier XDD 💀

[lusty minnow]

ezra told me

[verbal cloak]

oh wait, its worse 🧱

[waxen vine]

7,500 bc / yellow tickets to get ishmael sig why you wasted lilith's sig which was free and since you have 300 shards already i assume you scrapped guide and novice free sig weapon and i assume crimson weaves free sig weapon and now liliths you just bricked harder than CW fans not gonna lie

[frigid moth]

Wata weapon even worse 💀

[robust mango]

I scraped wata weapon when i was a beginner i didnt know it was important

[robust mango]

Wait theres free sig on guide and novice?

[tender ridge]

um what lilith memory

[mint burrow]

how do i win against vonnegut? do i really just have to keep dodging? the aoe meteor keeps killing me

[waxen vine]

[verbal cloak]

the selector, but ud typically use it for a weap for alisa

[waxen vine]

already telling you he scrapped it for shards

[frigid moth]

for dps?

[rapid field]

use nanami, use ishmeal to defeat him, he is not resistent to nihil dmg, maybe work

[waxen vine]

4x Barcelo
2x Cottie

[regal ledge]

scrape or reso?

[raw linden]

Hmm what's good in her memory? I wanna know about her dmg memory to make her become better than my pyroath

[tender ridge]

where to get cottie

[fading kestrel]

in clash reflection?
only the void team has a good chance at beating him

[waxen vine]

you get shards when scrap and to add you get 150 shards for one signature weapon you need 450 shards for one signature that is 3 signature weapon for one signature weapon of your choice its just stupid to even consider this

[regal ledge]

fml i thought i was bricking myself with reso old weapon 💀

[raw linden]

Is Lilith good for her DPS when he turn into second form when using dash?

[rapid field]

i defeated him with nanami+ishmeal+yata

[regal ledge]

is it better to just reso since you need like 3x for 1 wepaon

[frigid moth]

This does the most

[fading kestrel]

wrong reply

[frigid moth]

res is always better

[mint burrow]

shits ass, i keep getting one shotted

[waxen vine]

simulated battle shop

[frigid moth]

oh lol

This works for them too lmao

[robust mango]

Guys nanaknight weapon or solactune weapon?

[rapid field]

whao, i wish my lilith as you

[frigid moth]

Lilith gg no diffs the game

[regal ledge]

i would vote for solactune since she need it next patch

[high snow]

so how good is lilith, is it worth spending pulls on her event banner?

[frigid moth]

but yeah 4pc barcelo and 2pc cottie with cottie harmony

[mellow vessel]

solacetune cause nanaknight rotation isn't locked at her sig

[tender ridge]

thx

[frigid moth]

Get everything from free one ignore the paid one. Instead go all in on her via vouchers and skulls and watch her become your new god

[waxen vine]

no worries

[high snow]

dayum, i was gonna use my voucher to SSS my alisa echo cus i was close

[robust mango]

Im f2p and i have 3 characters signs

[rapid field]

i use lilith SS0 (memory build not yet completed, not yet hypertuned, wrong slots, cub not yet upgraded, level 1) solo defeated the babel hyperreal, so not bad, even lucia feel hard due to shorthand in energy

[frigid moth]

how close?

[lusty minnow]

r1 is enough for echo sig?

[mint burrow]

what does void do that beats him?

[frigid moth]

yeah no actually invested she's utterly insane

[river furnace]

No.21 Feral or XXI? I'm level 79, which one should I invest in?

[frigid moth]

Her SS3 💀

[fading kestrel]

the "Phantom Pain" buff grants Vonnegut an equilibrium field. which makes him EXTREMELY tanky. only void can break this shield efficiently

[robust mango]

How to conduct dorm chores ?

[waxen vine]

idk about God but Lilith is my wife

[rapid field]

Maybe, she have SS6, SSS very good, but how damage you can roll her, worset you got her at 80 rolls or 16000 bc and return 3000 r&d tickets and buy something, but if you want selena, so don't do that, unless you love her or more power for her, it is good amp

[gloomy moon]

who should I hypertune first? Wanshi or Tsubricki?(and fix her resos)

[fading kestrel]

wanshi

[robust mango]

[fading kestrel]

chores button. bottom right

[frigid moth]

SS3 is a good stopping point for Lilith ngl

[high snow]

err, i think i need 36 more shards

[gloomy moon]

dorms is just glorified slavery

[robust mango]

I know but it says there’s nothing to conduct

[frigid moth]

SSS isn't as good as Wanshi's

[fading kestrel]

once per day

[frigid moth]

Use those on Lilith instead she's used in way more teams

[lusty minnow]

r1 is enough for echo sig?

[high snow]

i see, ok, well im newbie and f2p route so i guess ill save probably

[gloomy moon]

once I finish SS'ing Nanami, should I go SS Fishmeal or Wanshi?

[frigid moth]

Just stop on Lilith once SS3

[gloomy moon]

SS'ing Fishmeal would practically finish my Nihil team

[frigid moth]

Wanshi's SSS by comparison

[robust mango]

It been 7 days and there’s nothing

[rapid field]

so, it is the damage if reach SS3, even amp selena is feel very sad and cry why 3rd-gen lilith can be

[gloomy moon]

click those "+" boxes

also put some constructs in dorms first

[robust mango]

How?

[rapid field]

i also newbie, the same fate

[frigid moth]

Pretty sure even SS Lilith will end up doing more damage than SSS+ Selena that's how significant it is

[rapid field]

lilith boss in norman is one nightmare, waht the hell how to escape the her deathly attack

[frigid moth]

dodge and smack them with your hardest move immediately

Startrail no diffs lilith very hard

[verbal cloak]

are there any like, recommend teams for babel or smthn?

[frigid moth]

Lilith also no diffs lilith

[frigid moth]

Run whatever you find fun :D

[rapid field]

Selana AMP say "I have you, lilith, fuc- you, %#%45"

[verbal cloak]

cool (how does fire team rota work :V)

[frigid moth]

I am running it with my A ranks and having a blast

[frigid moth]

Selena's role now is to support lilith lmfao

[tight trellis]

SSS lilith is worth. do it

[frigid moth]

I mean it'll take a bit but it's possible to just solo with bridget alone

[waxen kindle]

Bals

[verbal cloak]

i unfortunately don't have the luxury to just build up a ranks and play them for the fun of it, (so r ya telling me just 1 unit can solo?)

[frigid moth]

was already on it

[rapid field]

if nanami at time she is catched by lilith death attack, if passive core is 300, maybe she can survive, but sad, i can not predict when lilith attack, and attack repeat more and more, and my nanami is catched when passive core not 300, and nanami died, holy sh-

[rapid field]

the tragedy fate

[tight trellis]

use ishmael. easy pass

[frigid moth]

Lilith too op

[rapid field]

sad, ishmeal also catched, died

[verbal cloak]

doing wata's tutorial rn, ngl I'm excited on getting him next patch, ts fun

[frigid moth]

Actually nerfed using her dark team

[warm pewter]

does alisa need r1?

[tight trellis]

gotta do her signature rotations continuosly so you dont get caught

[frigid moth]

The second we get a scire replacement is the second Lilith ascends to a higher plane

[verbal cloak]

ye wen she's 3s

[tight vapor]

Should I go for basic on lucia cw? Instead of sig?

[fading kestrel]

i think so. but she wont need it once her leap releases
exta can you back me up on this

[azure barn]

I feel like Lilith is gonna be relegated to 2 Ult rotations if we get a new Dark Tank

[frigid moth]

I'd still recommend it for the same reason I recommend it for other supports

[azure barn]

(Amp resos)

[tight vapor]

Lucia crimson weave resonance guide pls?

[frigid moth]

This is just too good to pass up on in any case

[waxen kindle]

0
You don't reso cw

[frigid moth]

So you won't regret to res her

[mint sluice]

Can i just cope with solacetune 5 star weapon until selena comes out and i pull selena sig

[frigid moth]

General rule of thumb DLT for dps

[waxen kindle]

Imagine bro uses Lilith sig to reso cw

[warm pewter]

SAR it is

[mellow vessel]

can alisa still decently rotate without her SS

[waxen kindle]

If many bc pull sig

[waxen kindle]

Why tf are u rotting echo

[frigid moth]

sig is only worth doing if she's SSS

[mellow vessel]

wdym

[regal ledge]

even then its a stretch

[low mantle]

is there any way to do the 6 warzone in 1 week?

[frigid moth]

Echo a qte bot until SS or above

[raw swift]

not really

[raw swift]

nope

[frigid moth]

Then again any character is a qte bot at S rank

[waxen kindle]

Ss echo has field time?

[raw swift]

yes? wtf are you doing lmao

how many rots

[waxen kindle]

Not ss-ing echo that's what I'm doing

[warm pewter]

after sss echo, what should i sss next
wanshi or lilith

[raw swift]

<ss0 echo

[mellow vessel]

so whats better to invest first then, her ss or sig

[raw swift]

wanshi and lilith should have been sss'd WAYYYY before echo

[frigid moth]

Don't SSS echo lol

[waxen kindle]

Qte bots

[raw swift]

ss first

[frigid moth]

Wanshi SSS is the most broken thing I've experienced

[lusty minnow]

r1 is enough for echo sig?

[warm pewter]

oh why not

[waxen kindle]

Ss echo over sig??

[raw swift]

45% shred and -3s on cooldown

[raw swift]

i mean for rotting yes

[verbal cloak]

just saw wata's outro for the first time, chat am I gae

[raw swift]

actually he shouldnt get either

[waxen kindle]

Ima assume that bro does not have any phys

[mellow vessel]

breathing air is gae

[raw swift]

just give up atp

[frigid moth]

Because

[waxen kindle]

Sigless echo is crazy

[raw swift]

lucid dreamer has INSANE shred at sss

45%, every gen 3 tank (except hanying cause her shred is split) has 45% shred at sss

the difference is that lucid dreamer sss is free and theirs aren't

with luna this means you can have crazy zaza team comps

[frigid moth]

And Lilith has this

[raw swift]

like solo lilith with wanshi and oblivion

[waxen kindle]

Too bad the honni magic girl inhaled all of my vouchers

[raw swift]

S0 Lilith has the same amp buff as SSS0 alisa

[warm pewter]

im 4 shards left to sss echo

[frigid moth]

might as well at that point lol

[warm pewter]

haven't bought her shards tho

[raw swift]

then just do it

wdym havent bought her shards

how did you get her SS9

[shadow geode]

Is Ishmael any good for brand new player (No Luna)

[tight trellis]

just SSS both wanshi and lilith with vouchers

[raw swift]

yes

[frigid moth]

Hey on the bright side you'll get crazy high scores with Vergil

[raw swift]

i mean

[warm pewter]

no i mean im currently at ss3, i just need to buy her ppc shards and the vouchers one
i got really lucky since her release got extra dupe

[shadow geode]

Also how many BC do i need minimum for the CW costume ? I saw 17.5k somewhere which means i can technically go for it on a new acc and still have enough BC for next patch ?

[raw swift]

dont

ehhhh....

[waxen kindle]

Don't buy echo shards pls

[frigid moth]

SS3 Lilith first then work on Wanshi if that's the case

[raw swift]

i wouldnt recommend it

[carmine reef]

i'm gonna buy echo shards

[frigid moth]

That gives you a way larger gap in overall power

[raw swift]

ok

[warm pewter]

i see

[frigid moth]

Lilith covers the most zones in the game

[waxen kindle]

Imgonnabus

[carmine reef]

but only after i buy cw shards

[raw swift]

nanami should tho right

[lusty minnow]

3s cw

[raw swift]

its between ishmael luna and nanami for being in the most teams

[carmine reef]

ye

i can afford it right now but i'm waiting because

it'll be my last opportunity to do any ss testing

[lusty minnow]

i see

[rapid field]

let me try, i can make how many signature rotations and i can escape or still be catched during burst

[waxen kindle]

How significant is nanami ss3 compared to pyro

[frigid moth]

Only characters left for me to SSS that are worth anything from voucher shop is Scire and Kaleido

[raw swift]

theyre both gonna die

[carmine reef]

decent dmg increase, shred increase, burn qol

[frigid moth]

Definitely gonna SSS Kaleido first for that sweet buff to my ice team

[carmine reef]

i think it's about equal value to pyroath considering the teams nanami takes a part in

[tight trellis]

typically, which new characters are added to voucher shop?

[carmine reef]

free characters and leap characters

[raw swift]

those who are free and get leap

[tight trellis]

ah

[frigid moth]

SS3 Pyro in my opinion is more cracked but Dante SSS only cost 21k

[lusty minnow]

then who gonna be leap next after echo

[raw swift]

does dante sss even compete with ss pyroat

[carmine reef]

there is no way of knowing

[waxen kindle]

Fr? Why is he so cheap

[mint burrow]

finally got it, shit's ass

thanks for the help

[frigid moth]

I've seen CN gameplay apparently he does

[raw swift]

maybe at super high invests

[frigid moth]

Unlike Vergil he has actual fire scaling on everything

[raw swift]

can u send vid link

[frigid moth]

Vergil is locked to using beo

[waxen kindle]

Virgin hard locked into ts 💔

[carmine reef]

i mean you're saying "only 21k" while excluding the cost of sig and cub

which are bc only

[tight trellis]

i bet we will see lots of SSS+ vergil and dantes after dmc

[waxen kindle]

Well yeah he did mention that 21k being for sss

[carmine reef]

yeah which is technically correct but kind of misleading

it's not exactly a cheap investment

it's more expensive than actually just pulling pyroath to ss3

[waxen kindle]

Personally I didn't assume the cost of sig and cubs when he said 21k but I see how some might

[carmine reef]

which would have more value to your account overall

[waxen kindle]

But still why is his sss so cheap

[tight trellis]

175bc per pull

[carmine reef]

it's not that 21k seems to include the other stuff but it's kind of misleading instead of saying "you can spend like 35k bc for a unit that can compete with lucia in half her teams"

[mint burrow]

less currency per pull

[carmine reef]

cheaper pulls and you get buy 1 get 1 free deal for 2 dupes

[frigid moth]

Who also needs similar invest

[lusty minnow]

buy 1 get 1, free from story and discount pull

[carmine reef]

and base copy is free

[waxen kindle]

Nice

[vale raft]

Lilith: Daemonissa <:s_rank:1287636749052412026><:amplifier:1290613387197415467><:dark_element:1290613554923438102><:electroconvergence:1288090218922119181>

Plasma Affix Support Set

Usage

Support Sub-DPS

Game Modes

PPC, Intensive Battle, Warzone

Description

Recommended for all ranks
Plasma Affix Support Set

Memories

4x Da Vinci
2x Guinevere

Memory Resonances

Top Slot : 6x Any ATK+15 Variant
Bottom Slot: 6x Class Skill

Harmony Recommendation

Guinevere

[frigid moth]

SSS+ Dante apparently = SSS Pyroath

[tight trellis]

and lots of free dupes

[low mantle]

lilith dupe worth chasing?