📨・meta-help

[peak sonnet]

So 3 rot still recommended for most players

[stray siren]

I use 4 rot, when they should be used, but it is not always good

[simple dew]

wouldnt lilith be better than wanshi since tank ish

[prisma lava]

if I roll on luna's 70% banner am i gonna regret it bros.............

[frail hinge]

this is so straightforward thank u

[stray siren]

Idk

[frail hinge]

whats your 4 rot variant cause i was trying to learn zex's zaza

[peak sonnet]

I'm always getting better scores with wanshi

[frail hinge]

thia is what we call warzone zaza

[stray siren]

With this i can do 5 ultimates too

[peak sonnet]

The problem with ish luna Lilith run is the luna rot being so hard to do in short amount of time

[ripe stag]

Why will you do 5

4 is enough

Within swap cd

[frail hinge]

this si so straight forward queso thank you

zex's gives me a migraine

[regal ledge]

So if you have Lilith sss 4 rot is better then 5?

[frail hinge]

i didnt pull it off remotely properly but it underscored AGAIN

[stray siren]

It can be done, it is not optimal, although it could be useful in some run ends with Ishmael

I mean, no Warzone uses the same ult numbers

[frail hinge]

all yhis just to outscore double rot ish smh

[regal ledge]

Qte timing

[peak sonnet]

You're not doing correctly since void so sensitive to mistakes

[fluid gulch]

I can only manage to do 2 rots with luna before swap cd is over

[frail hinge]

EVERYONE KEEPS SAYING THAT IDK MAN

[peak sonnet]

They are doing 3 apparently

[frail hinge]

yknow i really like that this is true cause goof gameplay but currently its the bane of my existence

[fluid gulch]

I can see how you can make 3, but it's kinda hard to do it early in run

[regal ledge]

I totally understand your malding frustration it happens to the best of us

[fluid gulch]

Cuz you don't have much orbs

A lot of basic weaving is required

[ripe stag]

https://media.discordapp.net/attachments/867718398208245761/1374428066192949318/Screenrecording_20250520_214909_com.kurogame.gplay.punishing.grayraven.en.mp4?ex=68388f62&is=68373de2&hm=93777e0da0a8a3521c74374dbe5a0959d2aebdedf49ed87a4b6e5b89d2107e16&

[frail hinge]

this isnt too insane at all its just my double rot but with an extra one slapped after

[peak sonnet]

They actually hold ba for 2nd and 3rd rot

[ripe stag]

Will look something like this

[fluid gulch]

The drill attack? Ain't you supposed to do it everytime?

[peak sonnet]

Not that

[frail hinge]

holdup

[peak sonnet]

They do ba before 1st ult

[frail hinge]

are you just anim cancelling finger flick or not triggering it at all

[peak sonnet]

Hold ba

[frail hinge]

a bit hard to tell

[fluid gulch]

Yeah, I do that everytime

[peak sonnet]

You ult immediately after dodging

[fluid gulch]

I don't see the point in doing it after ult 1 since you can't dodge cancel it

[frank kindle]

holy based

[frail hinge]

okay yea got it just wanted to make sure that i wasnt triggering finger flick when i shouldnt be lmao

[peak sonnet]

luna 3 rot
rot 1: same as usual
rot 2: ult1 then hold ba then 2x3p then ult2
rot 3: hold ba then ult1 then 2x3p hold ba

[frail hinge]

@ripe stag so you agree 3 rot is better than 4?

[peak sonnet]

I got it from zex

[fluid gulch]

Is there are value in holding ba after ult 1? You can't dodge cancel it, straight up time waste

[ripe stag]

You don't need to finger flick to change the number colours to violet
Just dodge X2 after 2 red then ult

[frail hinge]

orbs

[ripe stag]

Don't wait for the finger flick unless the wave can be killed with it

[frail hinge]

and energy

[ripe stag]

I did 4

[frail hinge]

gotchu

[ripe stag]

3 on first rot
4 from 2nd rot

[fluid gulch]

You get enough energy for ult 2 anyways

[frail hinge]

4 rot gives me zex zaza ptsd

[ripe stag]

It's the same

Just extend the rot
See the video

[frail hinge]

honestly, why do i do ba after ult one

[peak sonnet]

They do 3 rot so lack of orbs

[frail hinge]

no zexs is diff i think

[fluid gulch]

Wait, does hold ba after ult 1 give you orbs or what?

[ripe stag]

I mean check my video

[frail hinge]

oh oke

[buoyant hornet]

@wispy robin how's 222 physical team doing in wz for you? Is it good?

[buoyant hornet]

Hi Tim

[frail hinge]

hi feyer

still trying void

[peak sonnet]

What's 3 rot for luna @buoyant hornet

[frail hinge]

ishmael im SORRY i called you braindeasd PLEASE come to me

[buoyant hornet]

LMAOOO

[fluid gulch]

[carmine reef]

it gives you energy

[buoyant hornet]

RRDD = 2 3p red + 2 dodge to convert stack to purple

1st rot, 3ult (opening)

• swap in > ult1 immediately > yellow orb > dodge once > RRDD > ult2
• ult1 immediately > dodge once > hold dodge kick > RRDD > ult2
• ult1 immediately > dodge once > hold dodge kick > RRDD > ult2

2nd rotation, 4ult (afterwards rotation)

• swap in > ult1 immediately > yellow orb > dodge once > hold dodge kick > RRDD > ult2
• ult1 immediately > dodge once > hold dodge kick > RRDD > ult2
• ult1 immediately > dodge once > hold dodge kick > RRDD > ult2
• ult1 immediately > dodge once > hold dodge kick > RRDD > ult2

If you did it correctly, on the 4th rot you should have 4 orbs and matrix ready for the last RRDD
Reminder:

• You HAVE to convert stack before using ult to chain the next rotation properly
  @peak sonnet

[buoyant hornet]

@peak sonnet this is 4rot but 3rot is the exact same just without doing the 4th rotation

[frail hinge]

zex youre here

[peak sonnet]

ty

[carmine reef]

i don't like the way you say that

[frail hinge]

4 rot is not for me man im messing up way too much

the reset to finish ratio like trippled

[carmine reef]

well i told you that would happen

[fluid gulch]

That's the thing I don't understand, you get enough energy for ult 2 even if you do hold ba before ult 1

[carmine reef]

my 4 rot is really unintuitive

[buoyant hornet]

Tim are you able to screenshare pgr maybe we can help you better if we see what's actually happening lol

[wispy robin]

definitely the weakest team i have but it's r0 echo r1 han so you wouldn't expect much

[buoyant hornet]

Do you have r1 Ishmael or no?

[carmine reef]

no, bc then you have to do second hold ba

[frail hinge]

my ish is r2

[carmine reef]

which would mean you have to use another 2x3p to get into the next rot

[buoyant hornet]

How much score range on average?

[frail hinge]

i just tried zex zaza

[fluid gulch]

hm

[wispy robin]

last time was like 4.4m i think

[carmine reef]

like, with the standard 2 rot you do two hold ba per rot

[fluid gulch]

Let me test it rq

[buoyant hornet]

Try the easier 4rot first ig

[carmine reef]

and each hold ba is requiring 2x3p

if you try and do that with 3 rot you need 8x3p which is too much

[buoyant hornet]

Ah so still really good scores considering the invest no? Seems similar to ss0 r1 fire team if not better

[carmine reef]

so you stagger hold ba so you only need 6x3p

[buoyant hornet]

@frail hinge try to understand how Ishmael's dmg and gauge work

[fluid gulch]

So you can literally skip the drill attack? Or you just skip 2x 3p for ult 1 after 2nd rot?

[carmine reef]

wait i messed the math up

[buoyant hornet]

Only then you'll make more sense of Zex's rotation

[wispy robin]

well fire post vera is at least 5m at bare minimum

[frail hinge]

i do

i get the logic behind it

[fluid gulch]

I'll just test it

[carmine reef]

if you try and do two hold ba per rot like usual, but including swap in, then you'd need 11x3p to do 3rot like that

[frail hinge]

or at least i get the logic up to kurai's part of the rot

[ripe stag]

@frail hinge

[buoyant hornet]

Drill rot > short rotation (no drill > drill rotation

That's Luna's 3rot but ofc it's not as simple as just "skipping" the drill

[ripe stag]

This is SS0 btw so

[solemn spoke]

why do people say new Vera is buns below sss is ts actually true

[buoyant hornet]

Oh I forgot you have Vera now, I meant empy actually lol

[carmine reef]

if you stagger hold ba and including swap in, you only need 9x3p

[wispy robin]

all my teams besides phys can score at least 5m now

[fluid gulch]

I need to see that Luna rot all over again

[frank kindle]

where's selena to fix my phys

[ripe stag]

Which two are better to do

[wispy robin]

full invest echo phys would def score over 5m tho

[buoyant hornet]

No she just has a relatively big jump in strength at SSS

But if you're someone who has ss+sig empy, Vera will be an objective big upgrade + much easier/smoother fire team runs

[ripe stag]

I mean. even ss + sig Ishmael on paper is better than Empy

[buoyant hornet]

So ig the score is really good in the context of current global

[ripe stag]

@buoyant hornet can you help

[buoyant hornet]

In some scenarios yeah

[ripe stag]

[buoyant hornet]

Haven't done any ppc except tifa yet so idk yet tbh

[soft nexus]

yall for my ishmael team, should i use lilith or luna after doing ishmaels full rotation*

[ripe stag]

Ooh

[ripe stag]

You only swap between ish and Luna

[soft nexus]

okay thanks!

[lean plinth]

i noticed that ishmael even without signature rn is still fastee

i got to wave 16 but even then i couldn't beat my high score for some reason

[buoyant hornet]

I'll lyk when I get to jt

[raw swift]

My eyes are bugging i thought u were a mod

[peak sonnet]

[raw swift]

I really should sleep

Or cook

[modern tulip]

Is it better to run fran or davinci for feral claw?

[stray siren]

It's just normal rotation, all you have to do is calculate the number of ultimates depending on the shields

Brainded gameplay

[raw swift]

Davinki

Island booy

Wait wrong twins nvm

[peak sonnet]

[ripe stag]

God forbid PGR players have fun

What is this 1:04 clear

66m HP IS CANCER

[raw swift]

That's what I was saying

I just gave up

[fluid gulch]

WAIT WHAAAAAAAAAT

[ripe stag]

For instance

Cradle has 33m

[buoyant hornet]

Wdym by calculating number of ults?

[peak sonnet]

Double hp

[buoyant hornet]

Ib void is just plain bad

Void shield way too big for our f2poor invest

[stray siren]

If Ishmael kills an enemy and the next enemy has a shield, then you don't switch to the tank, you do another ultimate to destroy the shield

[frail hinge]

okay, so like

sigh

[fluid gulch]

That's why I'm so buffled

[lean plinth]

wtf ;-;

[stray siren]

So the base is 3 ultimates, if you have a shield in front you can extend Ishmael's rotation time with two more ultimates (5 ultis) In an extreme case

[frail hinge]

must be qte management

[peak sonnet]

What team you using did you change

[frail hinge]

same team

[stray siren]

Ishmael is bugged btw

[peak sonnet]

Ye optimize your qte

[frail hinge]

luna ish feral
222 121 111

[whole falcon]

🙂

[frail hinge]

ishmael is what

[lean plinth]

actually should I try using feral instead of Lilith since she isn't built yet? (feral is s0 btw)

[frail hinge]

i, havent once, been able to beat double rot, even repeating double rots i havent once gotten beter than this score

[stray siren]

She has a random bug where the second half of her ultimate doesn't do damage to shields

[frail hinge]

bruh

[lean plinth]

for void team

wz

[frail hinge]

nah use lilith

[lean plinth]

even if she isn't built properly?

[frail hinge]

i use feral cause no lilith

[summer topaz]

low damage low scores should still be fun if using waifu right?

[frail hinge]

your feral isnt built yet either shes s0

[peak sonnet]

Wives always got buffs

[frail hinge]

oke imma just repeat the first rot i used and see

[lean plinth]

state of Lilith currently

i haven't done harmo on her either yet

[frail hinge]

if i somehow outscore this then i give up on copying rots

[lofty pasture]

How to get the skin for the weapon of Lilith?
I can't

[peak sonnet]

You create rots instead

[stray siren]

BP

[stray siren]

Do not copy rotations, It's better to just use the one you play best

[lofty pasture]

Battle pass?

[stray siren]

Yes

[soft nexus]

yall for ishmael team, should luna be the leader? or ishmael?

[peak sonnet]

Ish

[fluid gulch]

SHE'S FREE

[lean plinth]

got SLIGHTLYYY better score with feral instead of lilith@frail hinge

this is a damn joke

[vague nebula]

what did u use on primal?

[lean plinth]

ive been trying to do 4 or 5 million like you guys

[peak sonnet]

3S team

[lean plinth]

what the hell am I doing wrong atp

[bronze bluff]

Peak gameplay

[vague nebula]

[peak sonnet]

Wtf is that lucia

[half iris]

Ishmael after she transitioned into a man everyone

[peak sonnet]

Off topic

[half iris]

oh right

[frail hinge]

no, this is very ontpoic

[peak sonnet]

Ban this guy

[half iris]

im so used to this channel

[half iris]

😔

[peak sonnet]

Hows wuwa experience

[half iris]

honestly it's great, though the story isn't as great as PGR, the combat is arguably better in some ways, and ofc open world

I played it on launch, then quit and came back last patch. It's nice

[peak sonnet]

Open world is cheating

[half iris]

real

[fluid gulch]

"Open world" BOOOOOOOOOORING

[peak sonnet]

Although it's the best open world gacha rn

[half iris]

it's too appealing if done right. I love how it's fast paced/lets you actually explore and run around, unlike how rigid genshin's open world experience was

[fluid gulch]

There ain't much competition tbh

[peak sonnet]

It ain't beating the breath of the wild tho when it comes to open world

[fluid gulch]

We're not seriously comparing a gacha game to a normal game

[thorn creek]

Both games sucks

Gamble irl

[solemn spoke]

still I secretly wished for her to be a very strong unit even at lower invests to make her more future proof but ig we not getting everything we wish for

[knotty dragon]

Wolfie halp me
Primal Projection is skill diff-ing me

[half iris]

yeah. Though in some aspects i like it more cause running around the world in it is more fast paced. While botw is a more "chill" game. Definitely two differnet feelings to each game

[knotty dragon]

My Lilith is regarded, she does no dmg

[frank kindle]

like if i was skilled

[half iris]

same i got 570k on her 😔

[peak sonnet]

We actually need a new good open world that ain't gacha but it ain't happening

[knotty dragon]

Dawg she can’t even deal damage on Knight and she’s SSS

[peak sonnet]

How lol

[fluid gulch]

Wtf

[half iris]

can only hope

[peak sonnet]

12 sec knight is enough for Lilith

[half iris]

Something ain't right mate

[fluid gulch]

You're GOTTA be doing something wrong

Did you accidentely put support memmory set on her perchance?

[knotty dragon]

DLT on weapon

[peak sonnet]

Show us your Lilith gameplay

[solemn spoke]

I remember playing genshin on release and it was beautiful yes but a barren wasteland with barely any content and it got popular purely from the aesthetics

[limpid bramble]

guys how do i get hanyings sig weap? do i have to spend bp or is there a way to get the selector banner

[peak sonnet]

Dlt ain't even needed for that boss if you're good

[frank kindle]

$$$$$

[peak sonnet]

Because it got no competition that time

[fluid gulch]

DLT is need for hell I guess

[peak sonnet]

Do they can't actually know what's good

[limpid bramble]

chat this means bp right HAHSDHASH or you're saying yeah you got it cash money answer

[peak sonnet]

Ye definitely

[frank kindle]

u can have one weapon selector for paying enough win win

[peak sonnet]

Just get a job

[half iris]

Okay with dlt your rotation can be swap in, 3 blue, ult, one yellow one red, two yellow one red then ult with qte's

After that, two blue ult one yellow one red two yellow one red ult

Then lamia. rinse repeat till it dies. That got me around 565k which is lower than i thought tbh

[solemn spoke]

well they got plenty of money but still released mid games besides hsr but the powercreep sucks

[limpid bramble]

how much do i have to pay

[fluid gulch]

Just pull on wep target banner, other than this, there's no way to get sig for free

[limpid bramble]

so spend bp right? theres no way i can get a wapon tic for free right

[knotty dragon]

Swap in from tank, Blue-Blue>QTE>Yellow x3>Red>Yellow>Ult

[fluid gulch]

You don't even need lamia

In fact, just use Echo or Rozen instead of her

[limpid bramble]

the weap selector, can i use it for selenas upcoming new release*

[fluid gulch]

Or Crappicio

[frank kindle]

there's this

[knotty dragon]

She does no damage no matter what

[fluid gulch]

Bp? You mean bc right?

[limpid bramble]

bc i mean

[solemn spoke]

u can buy the meritorious supply packs with bc if you haven't already they give extra mats

[peak sonnet]

Ain't it 3 blue 2x dodge 3 blue 1x and yellow red yellow red yellow and yellow again for first one

[fluid gulch]

yes

[peak sonnet]

Although 2x yellow could be also done and some red dodge canceling the last red can't be cancelled tho

[stray siren]

BP does not give weapon tickets

You buy the Monthly Pass thrice and spend 7500 BC on the weapon banner

[verbal girder]

Alright so I've seen some CW vids where I saw her riding the motorbike aka the cub which we have and launch a joint attack but I donno how to do so. Can anybody please tell?

[fluid gulch]

swap-in -> 2x blue -> dodge -> blue -> ult1 -> yel -> red -> 2x yel -> red -> ult 2

[verbal girder]

Who's rotation is this?

[fluid gulch]

That should kill

[peak sonnet]

Lilith ppc

[verbal girder]

Thanks. I needed that as well 💜

[peak sonnet]

Wz Lilith is completely different

[verbal girder]

Ow really?

[peak sonnet]

Ye

[fluid gulch]

You do like 4 ult 2s in a single swap in

[peak sonnet]

You don't need full stacks for wz

[verbal girder]

What does the dodge do? She isn't Ishmael though

[half iris]

oh i might've confused her rotations

[fluid gulch]

anim canceling

[peak sonnet]

It saves like a sec

[solemn spoke]

doing that without the dodging oh cancel

[fluid gulch]

1 sec is a lot considering how often you gonna be doing this

[verbal girder]

Understood. And yeah so Full Stack on ult does more dmg that's why not in WZ where multi waves?

[peak sonnet]

@fluid gulch what team did you use for dark wz

[fluid gulch]

zaza

[knotty dragon]

am I regarded?

I feel like I’m missing sth here

[peak sonnet]

Luna wanshi?

[fluid gulch]

yes

[verbal girder]

And what about this? Anybody please

[fluid gulch]

Why do you use Luna?

[peak sonnet]

It's universal at this point

[knotty dragon]

Because I don’t have Daren

[solemn spoke]

istg can't even zaza cz I don't have both

[fluid gulch]

Use wanshi atp instead of Echo

[peak sonnet]

Ishamael really a fraud lmao

[fluid gulch]

Ezra did this and got better score than me

Bcuz I forgot about zaza team

[peak sonnet]

You forgot the part that he got 3S Lilith

[knotty dragon]

What’s the difference it’s knight I should be able to kill it off without any special bs

[solemn spoke]

how so

[fluid gulch]

I got that too

[knotty dragon]

There’s just no damage for some reason

[fluid gulch]

No shred = no dmg

[peak sonnet]

I'd get it next week you whel

[crystal cipher]

I've seen some players run lilith with startrail

I thought they are different elements and don't work together, am I missing something?

They were also running oblivion as a support

[knotty dragon]

I tried Hanying since she’s SS3 with DD, still nothing

[fluid gulch]

I SSSed Lilith and Wanshi at the same time btw

[peak sonnet]

It's phy dude why would you use it

[fluid gulch]

Hanying won't work here

[stray siren]

It's bad from the start. You should be able to ping 9 blue orbs, and the first ulti in the second 6

[fluid gulch]

Just use Wanshi, it's that simple

[knotty dragon]

DD should work regardless of her being physical or not, no?

[peak sonnet]

Ohh nah you're only getting 3S wanshi this late

[knotty dragon]

I already used him this ppc

[fluid gulch]

I WAS SAVING UP FOR 3S LILITH SO I DON'T HAVE TO SUFFER WITH WEAK ASS DARK TEAM

[knotty dragon]

Still, it makes no sense to me

[peak sonnet]

Wanshi could actually do a quick rot unlike Hanying

[crystal cipher]

Sorry, I'll try asking somewhere else

[peak sonnet]

Ye but now we suffer from phys

[fluid gulch]

Then just use wata

[fluid gulch]

You got SS3 Hanying?

[peak sonnet]

Annihilator class converts the buffs

[fluid gulch]

Bro I can't type

[foggy ridge]

oh. luna converts any shred/buff to an omniversal one where any unit can take advantage of it

[peak sonnet]

Ye i have

[stray siren]

Lilith + Nanami + Luna can be a better team than Lilith + Lamia + Ishmael

[peak sonnet]

Only r1 tho

[fluid gulch]

R2

[peak sonnet]

Ain't doing that much for phys

[crystal cipher]

Oh really? I see

Thanks guys

[fluid gulch]

Wait, does DD work for phys?

[brazen needle]

Guys for dmc collab, are Dantes and vergil cubs a must have for them to be usable? Or can I skip them for more copies of the units

[fluid gulch]

I mean hanying got that

[peak sonnet]

Ye it works but phys so trash that getting r2 is meh

[peak sonnet]

They're a must have

[brazen needle]

Damn

What's the pity on cub banners?

[peak sonnet]

20

[brazen needle]

40?

Oh I see

[limpid bramble]

for weapon target research, can i wait till selena drop and i can also use it on her weap?

[peak sonnet]

More context pls

[brazen needle]

Would the cub and weapon banners for dmc collab be 175 bc per summon?

[peak sonnet]

Check pins

I think dmc stuff still there

[brazen needle]

Oh ok

Ty

[limpid bramble]

u mean my message?

[peak sonnet]

Ye

Do you mean the weapon banner?

[limpid bramble]

yess

[peak sonnet]

The banner won't go away

[peak sonnet]

It's always there

You can always pull for weapons even if the units character banner is already gone

[limpid bramble]

this one?

[peak sonnet]

Don't

[stark dove]

is there a spreadsheet showing how much BC we’re getting for next patch?

[peak sonnet]

Not prio getting Hanying sig

[still moat]

@spiral merlin how to not separate enemies with lilith

[peak sonnet]

Last 3x patch we got 40k so expect something around that

[limpid bramble]

not prio? thought it was for her rotations

[peak sonnet]

Send huaxu link

Check pins if you don't know huaxu

[fluid gulch]

Hold on, I think I have it

[frail hinge]

I DID IT
IM DONE
KM FREE
NO MORE

3.8-4M MY ASS BRUH

Tripple rot did NOT do it idk how or why

[fluid gulch]

https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1nNauBXGcHv_7AepLWBLo4ykl3V_EhxpK/edit?gid=824145130#gid=824145130

[frail hinge]

Also @stray siren I think I saw the bug you were talking aboutn

[stark dove]

@fluid gulch thanks!

[peak sonnet]

At this point dude just accepts that the skill issue is real

I also suffered from that hours ago

So i know the feeling

[frail hinge]

All I did was use blue + hold dodge before ult one a few times to gain alotta stacks and use up orbs to build up stacks

Since only double rot I could eat up orbs carelessly

3.7 possible

Cause I was a single hp away

But due to my rot being something cobbled together it's not the most reproducable thint

[lusty spear]

hey this cub doesn't have element atk bonus for the carrier?,
wich skill is recommended to bring may i know?

[peak sonnet]

My lastest void wz

[peak sonnet]

Last 2

[frail hinge]

Elemental damage and if Lilith is holding it her kit specific booster

[frail hinge]

Invest?

[lusty spear]

okok ty

[frail hinge]

BRUH NO I TRIED MT DAMNEST EVERYTHING ELSE JUST DOESNT WORK

[peak sonnet]

Ss3 lilith r2, SS0 r1 luna and ss0 ish r2 all with cubs

[frail hinge]

Also probably change name before mods get sngry

[fluid gulch]

Skill issue

[frail hinge]

Yeah Lilith difference smh

All this work just to get Lilith and break 3.9m smh

[peak sonnet]

I was actually getting a higher score than someone with SSS lilith in my bracket

So skill inflation is real

[fluid gulch]

I got 4.3 mil with SSS Lilith

[frail hinge]

What rot are you using again
Ish tripple?

[fluid gulch]

I was doing wrong Luna rots

Not gonna mald anymore

[peak sonnet]

Bro didn't Dodge the stray bullet

[fluid gulch]

No point

[peak sonnet]

Ye 3 rot

[frail hinge]

Can I really attribute a one million diff in score to Lilith ss3

yes

[peak sonnet]

Not really

[frail hinge]

Yes really

Ss3 means more heal
Lilith means bigger amp buff

Equals
One mil score diff

Ish tripple just would not work for me idk why

[peak sonnet]

https://youtu.be/2jogbcFG_Gk?si=7WRfW9sbMwFDzIUh this my run with wanshi 3s instead of Lilith

Use the vid as reference

[frail hinge]

Ik 4 rot needs precise timings but is 3 rot also super precise?

[peak sonnet]

It's not mine tho

[frail hinge]

Yeah mo wanshi sss smh

[peak sonnet]

Always precise is needed

[peak sonnet]

Oof

[frail hinge]

I've seen it alot

Someone keeps shoving it in Mt face

But I can't pull it off cause mo wanshi

@peak sonnet could you pretty pls just try ish double rot for me so we can check if it's just my rotation killing js

[carmine reef]

i didn't read the whole convo but i just wanna say

[frail hinge]

I say if you do it and there's only a 400kish loss in score then it's not the rotations

[carmine reef]

my lilith ss3 and sss score for nihil were basically identical

[frail hinge]

Zex don't be mean to me

[unborn hound]

what's your score for sss?

[frail hinge]

Does Lilith sss boost her heal buffs

[carmine reef]

4.9m

[unborn hound]

bruh

i thought sss lilith had better juice

[carmine reef]

i mean

there's a reason we still say sss wanshi over lilith

sss amp is not nearly as game changing as sss tank

[frail hinge]

Only thing I do different is after the first ult2 I go blue+hold dodge to build up stacks and eliminate that tiny deadtime between ish and luna

[unborn hound]

@barren plank

i was wrong

[frail hinge]

Zex any idea why tripple rots won't work for me

[carmine reef]

no

[frail hinge]

Is it really just a precision and qte management thing

[knotty dragon]

Ye that works. Still can’t fathom why Hanying wouldn’t work but whatever floats PPC’s boat ig, need Daren…

[frail hinge]

Sigh

Is 3.7m an acceptable score now

I wanna get Lilith already ffsssss

[fluid gulch]

Anything is acceptable as long as you stay in hero

[frail hinge]

I joined late so slacc bracket
Currently number one and haven't played another zone

I can't maintain that kinda mindset
I must strive to become dalao!!!

[fluid gulch]

Welcome to the legend wz next week ig

Unless you're getting sniped on sunday

[frail hinge]

Lucky for me no merit yet YAHOOOO

[frail hinge]

Maybe

[fluid gulch]

man I really can't type huh

[frail hinge]

I'm meticulously avoiding legend

I don't wanna see people getting tripple more total score in a single element

[fluid gulch]

oof, missing the slacc week

I love getting into legend mainly because I can just do whatever and it won't matter

[frail hinge]

Chat is this pgr nihilism

[fluid gulch]

nihilism? nihil? void?

[frail hinge]

"no matter what I do it'll be a demote so may as well have fun" honestly sounds awesome okay I'm gonna join soon

I'm having too much fun with void smh

[stark dove]

are there calcs on how dante/vergil compares to pyroath/selena for fire and phys teams (non affix)? is it like a 15% loss in dmg?

[frail hinge]

Ishmael isn't hard to play but hard to plan for I guess

Or maybe that's solely timi skill issje

[frail hinge]

Lmao way more than 15

[still moat]

lilith bug is so restarted

[fluid gulch]

make that 50 or higher

[frail hinge]

Waaaaayyyy more than 15

[stark dove]

ok good to know

[fluid gulch]

what bug

[frail hinge]

You could double that and it won't be close

[still moat]

losing orbs

she has so many problems

orbs bug and separating enemies are mainly my concern

[fluid gulch]

ehh, you should've got used to that atp

[frail hinge]

We don't got percentages but as for comparisons

Sss+ dante = sss pyroath in fire
As for Vergil I think ss3 Selena is equal to his sss+?

[still moat]

wdym get used

do u know how tight the ender is

u have to be fast but if u are going too fast the bug will happen

[frail hinge]

Wait how is she losing orbs
Do they just disappear

[fluid gulch]

I'm talking about new units having problems

[stark dove]

ok, so vergil and dante only meta for affix

[frail hinge]

Yah

[fluid gulch]

or bugs

[frail hinge]

The semi not horrible ending

[fluid gulch]

Kuro typo

[still moat]

yeah but there is no getting used to this

[muted zenith]

Can i get rotation for Ishmael for SS0?

[frail hinge]

Lmao

I just finished this journey

[still moat]

u go fast = bug
u go slow = run bricked

[fluid gulch]

Pick your poison

[muted zenith]

Asking for a friend man

[fluid gulch]

There are a bunch of em

[frail hinge]

Took all of today to settle on using double rot + zaza

[muted zenith]

Give me the easiest one

Friend doesnt care about meta

Just wants to play the character decently

[waxen vine]

who said we will get enought yellow tickets in this patch to pull ishamel i am playing tsundra awakening game mode to get yellow tickets

[barren plank]

Man

[fluid gulch]

1st Rot:
Swap in > yellow > Ult1 > Dodge x2 > Red x2 > Dodge x2 > Ult2

2nd and 3rd rot:
Ult1 > Dodge > Hold dodge (kick) > Red x2 > Dodge x2 > Ult2

ALL SUBSEQUENT SWAP INS:

Swap in > yellow > (Ult1 > Dodge > Hold dodge (kick) > Red x2 > Dodge x2 > Ult2) x3

[desert sigil]

anyone playing the gun event and the interaction button doesn't work? I'm stuck here

[frail hinge]

Double rot
First swap
Ult1 yellow
Dodge dodge red red dodge dodge ult

Every other swap
Ult 1 yellow
Hold dodge
Red red
Dodge dodge

[barren plank]

Tbf I have never had the chance to test void yet I and I probbaly wont for a quite a long time

[frail hinge]

Why not

[barren plank]

My fcking phone broke

[waxen vine]

press default key y and than just click on that option

[barren plank]

And Apple is garbage

[frail hinge]

Oh same

[barren plank]

Cause I bought a new one but since my old phone doesnt work to verify my sign in inot the new one eI have to wait for Apple to send me their confirmation

[desert sigil]

thank you!!

[frail hinge]

Had to immediately get another 60 dolla phone

[waxen vine]

daam i am sorry to hear that btw what phone would be good to play pgr on ?

[frail hinge]

For the weeklies

[muted zenith]

I love hate this rotation

Thankfully i got ss3

Will try to see if i can score 5m in void today

[waxen vine]

no worries

[frail hinge]

Anything with a chip equal to a snapdragon v8

[frail hinge]

Ganbareee

[waxen vine]

snapdragon 8 gen 1?

[frail hinge]

Oh yeah

That

[barren plank]

Idk tbh Im not a tech expert by any means

[frail hinge]

But tbh my phone with a fancy t7100 is running everything just fine with no bloom no graphics mo resolution and no fire warzone

[waxen vine]

i think its more expensive to play it on a phone than a pc in my opinion

[feral pollen]

red huaxu is absurdly tanky

[barren plank]

I dont have a PC so not much I could do

[fluid gulch]

He's got 66m hp

[frank kindle]

i got samsung a55 and its fine on phone, altho im no phone gamer at all

[waxen vine]

same playing on a old laptop

[barren plank]

51 isnt even 10% tf

[frail hinge]

Dlao here is 3.7 mil good void scores for ss0 invest

[waxen vine]

ah that is nice

[unborn hound]

bro that's terrible

[barren plank]

btw what are the elements

[frail hinge]

Bro

[feral pollen]

void/light/phys

[frail hinge]

Everyone has sss wanshi and telling me my score is horrible idk what to do 😭

[unborn hound]

ok not terrible but not good either

[frail hinge]

How did you play your void this week

[frank kindle]

pain of no sss wanshi

[unborn hound]

who u using lilith?

[frank kindle]

and dog water loona

[frail hinge]

No Lilith yet

[unborn hound]

bruuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuh

[frail hinge]

Should probably mention that

[unborn hound]

@peak sonnet this ult is gonna live rent free in mind https://youtu.be/KEhtVdVh6EY

[frail hinge]

I started late + Mt dumbass dumb all the serum I was saving in day one of the patch not realizing her banner wasn't up yet

[frank kindle]

ngl wish my han had sig

[frail hinge]

Lilith should boost scores to 3.9ish maybe

[barren plank]

Riiiiiip

[frank kindle]

so many things to get, so little funds

[rotund zodiac]

I can get another character with S rank selector but have no idea what to get. I was thinking Lamia lost lullaby???

[frail hinge]

Your kidney looking mad juicy rn maybe sell it

[frank kindle]

where is your nanami startrail dud

[frail hinge]

If you have Watanabe and qu them sure

[frank kindle]

<@&595893856554319873>

[unborn hound]

my word

[frail hinge]

No 50 dolla >:(

[unborn hound]

lmao

[frank kindle]

holy cake

[rotund zodiac]

woah

[frail hinge]

WHERE 50 DOLLA >:(

[unborn hound]

<@&842033830583599115>

[frail hinge]

It's not even that good

50 dolla would look awesome

[frank kindle]

mods on non disturb, classical

[lusty tendon]

he left the server

manually have to delete the msg

[frail hinge]

Jeremy hi

[rotund zodiac]

will she be able to carry me through warzone?

[lusty tendon]

ban doesn't auto delete his stuff since he left

[frail hinge]

Literally yes

[frail hinge]

Oof

[frank kindle]

arutimeto superakturu

[frail hinge]

Jeremy if braindead why fun

I feel like a fraud for all my talk about character depth and stuff

[proud moss]

is there any benefit to using Luna Oblivions finality over main sequence?

[barren plank]

No

[frail hinge]

To end a fight
That's it really
You shouldn't use it till the last second for nail the enemy a little

[barren plank]

The only case where you used the enhanced ult is if it's for a rare PPC kill or if it's the last second of WZ to dish some extra damage before timer ends

[frank kindle]

cake is cake

[proud moss]

i see, thanks!!

[rough mica]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/emojis/1275683059122966601.gif?size=48&animated=true&name=CatWater~1

[rotund zodiac]

ok i get nanami

[frank kindle]

good, no brick

[unborn hound]

damn i had a question for acaxi but i completely forgor

wait

[pure pier]

I'm stuck at this final boss, I don't have enough DPS, and my characters get 1 shot. Do I now hit the red tally button to collect the "1030 total operators" reward? https://i.imgur.com/LeTIrlw.png

[unborn hound]

@rough mica for ppc which is better amp buffs or more shred?

[pallid cypress]

should i spend a bit of currency to get everything from insatiable research?

[frigid moth]

that's absolutely doable with your teams what's your huaxu?

[rough mica]

it depends

but shred is more sustain for me

[pallid cypress]

apparently i reached the mission claim limit

[pure pier]

https://huaxu.app/na/players/23455323/characters

[unborn hound]

i mean if u can't beat it then yes u can tally

and get most of the rewards

[frank kindle]

S ranks sigless

[unborn hound]

it's fine tally

and do another run and tally that one also

[pure pier]

I have a scuffed rotation probably why I'm not doing enough damage. I cycle between lilith and ishmael, can't generate enough orbs with luna before she gets 1 shot

[frigid moth]

the problem here is that they're all running main dps builds

[unborn hound]

reminds me of when i was stuck in cr with my alisa crimson abyss and brilliance team back in january

[pure pier]

ahh what builds should they have?

[spiral merlin]

lol

i think the separation comes from 3x3blue

not certain tho

since i started doing 2x3 and waiting it turned out better

[pallid cypress]

i got the second copy of lilith

should i stop or get everything form insatiable research?

[frank kindle]

are u spender

[pallid cypress]

no

[frank kindle]

[still moat]

u wait for the backflip every 2x3p ?

[pallid cypress]

but i have a bunch of BC

[frigid moth]

If you can res Lilith's weapon do that and slap dlt on it, you're better off running 4pc da vinci with 2pc eins on Oblivion otherwise you just cycle between Ishmael and Lilith

[spiral merlin]

[pallid cypress]

and kinda want to get the skin

[spiral merlin]

it is a fix

[frank kindle]

are u aware that skin is free

[spiral merlin]

just not an ideal one

[still moat]

has it been fixed in cn

and the orbs bug also

[pallid cypress]

in what way?

[spiral merlin]

uhh good question i havent tried it since my traumatic event

[pallid cypress]

i already reached the mission claim limit

[frank kindle]

get 49 coating blueprints and wait for dmc patch iirc

[pallid cypress]

ohhh ok

also lilith is on voucher exchange

should i make wanshi SSS first or lilith?

i have enough for 30 shards

[pure pier]

Thanks dude! I'll give that a shot.

[drowsy temple]

should I use black card to pull nanami weapon or ishamel character?

[pallid cypress]

also what is a good team for parhelion?

[frank kindle]

characters over sigs

[frigid moth]

Character always > weapon

[frank kindle]

especially as f2p

[pallid cypress]

should parhelion team be oblivion and a tank?

[frigid moth]

Startrail doesn't even need weapon for her rot to work

[pallid cypress]

hey is parhelion, oblivion and scire a good team?

im about to do clash reflection

[whole falcon]

"Woah... this powercreep is seriously INTENSE." farts

[unborn hound]

no

[frigid moth]

Any other support characters besides scire? amps are better to pair with Ishmael

[whole falcon]

Replace scire with lilith

[frigid moth]

Yeah Lilith is way more cracked

[unborn hound]

what da hell is scire doing there

[pallid cypress]

thanks

[unborn hound]

wanshi tho

[pallid cypress]

lilith as starter?

[frank kindle]

get daren to the chopping block

[unborn hound]

[pallid cypress]

in what color?

[frigid moth]

red for easy ping use with her

[unborn hound]

maybe i should get sss nanami

i feel like half my headaches will be solved if i do that

[feral pollen]

instructions unclear s+ cw acquired

[unborn hound]

[tranquil bramble]

I agree

[unborn hound]

that fact her and garnet are the only ones with field qte shred is crazy

[whole falcon]

how strong is geravoir in the dante ignition team compared to nanami

[vale raft]

Nanami: Startrail

Skill - SS

Quantum Beat

Level 1 - Unlocked at S5

Switching to the Shield Axe and casting Meteoric Doom, Blazing Rift, Cosmic Starstrike, or Starshard Slash will activate all available QTEs.

Level 2 - Unlocked at SS

Automatically uses a QTE when exiting the battle. After casting Red/Blue Orb Combo 2, tapping on the Red / Blue Orb again will directly cast the corresponding Combo 2. Aetherstrike and Red / Blue Orb Combo 2 Base DMG increase by 60%. Flowing Light Base DMG increases by 100%. Inferno Cyclone Base DMG increases by 110%. If Meteoric Doom is cast and consumes 100 points of Starlight, gains 50 extra points of Overload. This instance of Meteoric Doom increases its Base DMG by 50%.Gains 15 Signature Energy the first time Shield Axe is switched on upon entering the battle.

[frigid moth]

don't they synergize?

In any case startrail is needed for the starter

[whole falcon]

yes but i want to know whos doing the most damage

[unborn hound]

guys

[frigid moth]

Should be startrail easily

[unborn hound]

what if nanami ss3 void

actually wait

that could mean i can 4 rot

[sullen turret]

When vera will drop?

[vale raft]

Nanami: Startrail

Skill - Signature/Ultimate (Lv. 18)

Decisive Detonation! - Thunderfire Domain

After casting Cosmic Starstrike or Starshard Slash, a domain is left behind, dealing continuous damage and weakening enemies.

• The domain deals 50.0% Lightning DMG per second for 12s. Duration resets every time it is triggered.
• If the Blazing Mark is active when casting this skill, the domain will instead deal 50.0% Ignition DMG per second for 12s. Duration resets every time it is triggered.

3/3

[feral pollen]

when next patch drops

[unborn hound]

12s bruh

[sullen turret]

No way for real next patch?

Silly. I'm talking about the date

[whole falcon]

ambatublow

[sullen turret]

Number

[whole falcon]

next patch

[sullen turret]

Wow I didn't know buddy

[vale raft]

Current Roadmap (as of May 28th 2025)

[unborn hound]

july 2

@sullen turret

[sullen turret]

Thank u

[gritty pine]

How do I get more enhancement xp to upgrade weapons and whatnot

[sullen turret]

Did u used the boxes in your items

[lilac plaza]

when using pyroath after going into fire thunder you want to automatically go into soaring fire?

[sullen turret]

That's one you get from event you must manually use it

[gritty pine]

Ran out

I'll get more

[gritty pine]

wait what event boxes

[cobalt sun]

Simulated battlefield

[mighty dock]

With geiravor does wata switch to dd or does he stick with dlt

[gritty pine]

Ok

[sullen turret]

Forget the name but that electric character

Crimson waves you get a lot of stuff there

Boxes have the stuff you asking for.

Or use coin form simulation boxes

[gritty pine]

Just the overclock material boxes

[lilac plaza]

a little help with pyroath rotation pls

[sullen turret]

I don't know the name but don't hold ult do ult only of you not ss3. In plazma team first time do ult then when it's finish quickly click 2 blue before plazma end next time hold ult then do another 2 blue then do ult you can do that

[lilac plaza]

oh thx

[sullen turret]

Anyway you see

When your bare is full always hold attack

[storm linden]

Finally 😭 🙏

[frank kindle]

tourists finally did their part, time for pacts

[sullen turret]

When it's finished it's let you do the ult don't wast orb

Hold attack just one time no need to do the entire attack no second slash

[lilac plaza]

it this ult ur suspossed to use it right?

[sullen turret]

When hold animation is done it's like you did another 3 orb so no wasting orb for second rotation

Ult mean just one click

Anyway second rotation don't use red orb use yellow orb one and continue doing attack

[lilac plaza]

ok

[sullen turret]

Then one red

Hold attack gg ult again

(my Lucia ss with weapon and dead line timing)

(so 3 rotation I use red orb because I have orb again)

[true pivot]

死

[weary harness]

DLT on Ishmael or Solacetune first?

[frigid moth]

Solacetune needs it more for her rot, but Ishmael is more versatile with her options

[carmine anchor]

When they gonna release dmc?

[frigid moth]

Mid August

[carmine anchor]

Aight

[fresh cairn]

a tough one but yeah, i think both of them need DLT imo, Solacetune at SS + Sig R1 can solo Phys with a decent result

[solemn spoke]

isn't it 06th

[weary harness]

okay I'll do Solacetune 1st then

[solemn spoke]

probably not for long

[tame ivy]

anyone know the rankup buffs for dante?

[unborn hound]

[frigid moth]

Worst case they can switch it to domain deconstruction when Selena drops

[still moat]

[fresh cairn]

yeah, selena debut come close now

[weary harness]

What memories for Lilith and Oblivion in Nihil team?

[frozen creek]

wtf is this

Is non void still not nerfed in void zone?

[crystal breach]

lilith 4da vinci 4 guinevere , oblivion 4 cottie 4 cleopatra

[weary harness]

Thank you

[fresh cairn]

btw, you can use command in #📨・bot-info next time

most of the answer here will identical with what bot is giving you

[solemn spoke]

who tf is the main dps on the team luna?

[weary harness]

I didn't specify for Nihil

[still moat]

they get bonus on void but the trade off is that they are weak against shields

[frozen creek]

Oh yeah

I thought that got removed when ish got added

Like they don’t get the bonus anymore

[fresh cairn]

no, i mean, you can use /build in that channel, frame: is where you write their signature name, for example, if you need to find build for Wata: epitaph, write down /build frame: epitaph

[weary harness]

I did

[unborn hound]

holy sheet nanami ss3 could be on par with sss wanshi for void

damn

im too tired for malding tho

[frozen creek]

Fake fan

[fresh cairn]

am i missing something cause you can choose what build you need to put on a unit like sup dps, dps, etc

and those basically identical to what we gonna say to you in here (most of the time)

[weary harness]

Ah, I meant to say "It didn't specify for Nihil."

Just wanted to ensure that Plasma was the same as Nihil

[fresh cairn]

ah, i get what you said here, mb

[fresh cairn]

Lilith and Nanami

Luna only there for sherd

if i remember right

a weird team btw

but it work

[shrewd cosmos]

What

[fresh cairn]

somehow

[shrewd cosmos]

[red nymph]

Is it worth it to use R&D tickets for the 2nd part of the Insatiable research or should I save for future character?

[still moat]

save

[shrewd cosmos]

passive pull when you have enough for future characters

[fresh cairn]

still, there are some unit hard to not pull back for them, Hanying for example, i don't even have rosetta and Bianca is so death, what i am gonna do with phys, without her btw

[frank kindle]

not like bianca is worth investing now for new players

[weary harness]

Does anyone know the Luna + Lilith + Tank dark team rotation? I have SS R1 Lilith and Startrail

Is it 2 Lilith rotations where she tries to get 2 stacks + Nanami double rotation?

[silver shard]

between lilith and oblivion who has higher dps against enemies not weak to anything?

[silver shard]

Bianca always worth investing, best part of this whole game

[weary harness]

Selena is next patch and we're halfway done with this one

[fresh cairn]

that what i am trying to say btw, no hanying seem bricked somehow

[frank kindle]

that's my point

[spiral merlin]

and just as you say that solon says shes back

no escape

[frank kindle]

[leaden jungle]

im new
should I ss solacetune or pyroath?

[stark dove]

At what investment can crimson weave be on par with SS 5* wep nanami? I really want her tsubaki skin, but feels so sad that my cw sees no field time

[weary harness]

Pyroath imo

[weary harness]

SSS justifies switching but you can do it even at SS + sig

There was a chart about it actually....

[stark dove]

someone send me the chart lol

[unique glade]

What will be selena's best team?

[stark dove]

i want an excuse to get tsubaki

[weary harness]

This

[frigid moth]

Echo and Solacetune and for glaciation Echo and Wanshi

[weary harness]

Solacetune + echo

[stark dove]

@weary harness thanks!!

[shrewd cosmos]

well, u need hanying which thunderbolt research can give.

[shrewd cosmos]

Star trail*

or wait, waht was it again lmfao?

[fresh cairn]

i did that already

[shrewd cosmos]

alr, you got ur phy team already then. next patch is selena, ur attacker for phy

[fresh cairn]

i am planning to do that too

[stark dove]

anyone know how much more BC this patch will give from now? wondering if I will have enough for tsubaki

[fresh cairn]

you gonna pull for CW skin ?

this patch give around 20k BC btw

some event is gonna closed soon

[shrewd cosmos]

pulling for cw skin is a 🧱 btw

[fresh cairn]

so make sure you do it rn

[stark dove]

is it evenly distributed, or more front loaded?

[boreal lynx]

howd that guy get first place

[fresh cairn]

some already released, some still not

[carmine reef]

with s+ lucia

[fresh cairn]

so just do it when you have time

[carmine reef]

but it's middle of the week, ib lb will shift a lot

you could even find me on that leaderboard right now

[boreal lynx]

whts ur user

[carmine reef]

take a wild guess

[boreal lynx]

oh, i was looking for u in lighting lb

[carmine reef]

i doubt i'm on the lightning top 100

i just remember i was on the overall before i logged off

[dull moon]

first time doing intensive battle les go

[boreal lynx]

ye 82

[peak zodiac]

How can i lower my score, i dont want promotion

[shrewd cosmos]

Pray someone gets higher

[peak zodiac]

😭 😭 😭

[feral pollen]

don't do wz if you don't want to promote

[peak zodiac]

I want the currency to buy 6* memory chips

[feral pollen]

you buy mem shards with event currency

wz currency is for mem usb

[peak zodiac]

Not those the reso one

[peak zodiac]

Thats it

[bold quail]

don't you get the usb from norman

you could always just reroll a bunch, but you don't lose any currency weekly by promoting

[peak zodiac]

Im going to get demoted next week if i get promoted because i have low investment

[peak zodiac]

Where

[bold quail]

oh well?
if you're bouncing between two different ranks it's not bad
besides if you're promoting from one and regularly doing decently you might be able to stay in the higher one
who knows

[unborn hound]

Why bother tbh they will probably give her new frame soon

She is pretty popular in cn (unfortunately)

[bold quail]

exchange shop or something
150 of the orange shards from norman for a weapon reso usb

[unborn hound]

Imagine bianca ice amp

[feral pollen]

imagine bianca dark tank

[unborn hound]

Why?

[peak zodiac]

I got luck with nihil and did bad in the other so im cooked

[unborn hound]

Bruh
No pls

[bold quail]

can we please get a new dark tank im so tired of karenina

[unborn hound]

I need amp first

[feral pollen]

fortunately solon is bianca simp

[peak zodiac]

Becuz i cant maintain

[feral pollen]

so there's high chance it'll happen

[peak zodiac]

Thx

[unborn hound]

Doesn't matter promoting still better because better rewards

Even if u demote again u still get better rewards

[peak zodiac]

Ill get demoted becuz i lucked out with nihil

[peak zodiac]

Oh

[silver shard]

good i look forward to it. not unfortunate at all big mamasita deserves all the frames

[bold quail]

pretty sure the demotion rewards from the next zone are the same as the promotion rewards for yours

[unborn hound]

If qu shukra wasn't so ass to play I would be a bianca hater

At least qu is interesting lore wise

[zenith thorn]

jumping between ranks is normal

[unborn hound]

Bianca is just a cringeass character

[zenith thorn]

leader-hsro is expected if you are new

[silver shard]

thats alright not everyone has good taste toxic ones are needed to balance it out

[feral pollen]

funny you happen to hate the chars that need high investment to not feel ass

[silver shard]

expected if new? I was sitting in elite until like last month

[zenith thorn]

im counting 1 year in as still new

[unborn hound]

Bruh looked at the woman who looks like a washed out witch and said its good taste

[broken mist]

is BC the only currency can be used in DMC collab or there will be missions to get DMC currency?

[zenith thorn]

bc only

[unborn hound]

How lol

[whole falcon]

how much of an increase is going from ss3 to sss with vergil

[unborn hound]

Next week is ice right?

[silver shard]

super simple actually. I started on release, quit after i got veritas, came back for stigmata, quit after i got stigmata, came back during oblivion and ive been playing catch up since

[unborn hound]

I started on oblivion

Again how

[north snow]

What to do here?

[unborn hound]

This is for whels

[silver shard]

i got and built every unit except glory my resources were a lot more spread out probably idfk

[unborn hound]

Bro I was in leader with crimson abyss team being my best team lol

It was until wanshi dropped that I actually had an actual team lol

Although idk if I call sigless shukra a team member tbh

[frosty cave]

Guys what should i pick for the 100% S rank Shukra or Crimson weave

[silver shard]

wait is elite the lowest?

[unborn hound]

Yes

[north snow]

I guess I buy these, right?

[silver shard]

oh then i was in leader till last month

[frosty cave]

Does teambuilding need all the characters to be the same element?

[whole falcon]

no

[unborn hound]

None?

Get nanami startrail

Qu is free next patch and cw us free now

[silver shard]

what do you have

[unborn hound]

Generally yeah

[whole falcon]

the new affix system lets you use characters with different elements

[unborn hound]

Yes

[frosty cave]

Nothing 😭

[frosty cave]

what how

how do you get cw

[whole falcon]

startrail

[silver shard]

then yeah startrail

[whole falcon]

you get her for free from thunderbolt missions near the left of your screen

[bold quail]

click the thunderbolt manual event in the top left of your home screen

[unborn hound]

Wdym how lol thunderous something I don't remember the event name

[whole falcon]

and her weapon

[frosty cave]

OH okay thanks

[shrewd holly]

I have a little over 130k BC, already done insatiable research 01, is it better to use skulls or voucher or research 02 to get lilith to SSS?

[wintry parcel]

Voucher is go to always

Can use those cards for something else better

[bold quail]

free shukra from what? this is like the first time i'm hearing of this am I just slow or what

[unborn hound]

Selector

[bold quail]

i seee

[frosty cave]

what selector

[weary harness]

Do I need DLT for Lilith in Plasma beam?

[unborn hound]

Next patch

[frosty cave]

What A rank character should i pick

[wintry parcel]

She can work without Deadline Timing in plasma but for that you would need to do basic attack little bit for sufficient orb

[unborn hound]

21 xxi

[wintry parcel]

Deadline Timing makes it flawless

[fleet token]

If I get either Dante or Vergil, will their shards be available? (Even after the event ends) Just in case I don't have enough BC

[weary harness]

okay

[swift socket]

Depend on rot, you can play without dlt

[wintry parcel]

No

[unborn hound]

No

[wintry parcel]

Limited time only

[fleet token]

that sucks

[unborn hound]

[frosty cave]

I saw someone reccomend Bridgette and teddy

[fleet token]

Not even in the Phantom Cage shops? Or Vouchers?

[wintry parcel]

No

[fleet token]

😭

[wintry parcel]

Why would they

They are a limited S rank collaboration

[unborn hound]

Teddy is low priority because lilith is free so get 2 bridget copies and get the rest of the copies on 21 xxi

[shrewd cosmos]

Wait, not even ppc? damn

[unborn hound]

Yep

[shrewd cosmos]

I expected them to be in ppc for a bit. or well during their banner at least

[fleet token]

I mean if YOU GET Dante/Vergil

[frosty cave]

I mean in the member rate up

[fleet token]

😭 that sucks man

[unborn hound]

Get 21 xxi

[fleet token]

I was expecting the shards will only be available for you, when u get Either one of them

[shrewd cosmos]

can I run ishmeal, Lilith, teddy for a dark team?

[frosty cave]

Where do you get vergil and dante also are they skins

[swift socket]

No

Ishmael will be class less

[shrewd cosmos]

Eh? tank is free tho? or is it cuz no attacker?

[wintry parcel]

You will get a free dupe from pulling enough Dante/Vergil character

So that is technically your free pain cage shards

[swift socket]

Yes

[wintry parcel]

SS rank is given

[sage yew]

For PPC, what set does Dark Karen use for her memories in PPC and WZ? I assume that Lillith is now the main damage dealer with Lamia sub-dpsing... is it the typical davinci set?

[unborn hound]

Yes

[shrewd cosmos]

Damn, that sucks. so what would a copium dark team be?

[wintry parcel]

Yes

[unborn hound]

Is this for wz?

[wintry parcel]

Just use Oblivion + Parhelion

[unborn hound]

Of ppc?

[shrewd cosmos]

Ppc

[zenith thorn]

4dv4bath

alot of depends

[wintry parcel]

Scire has moved to Davinci holder in warzone

[zenith thorn]

but 4dv4bath works

with 4guin2ein2gloria support

no subdps since
ppc never have any subdps

[unborn hound]

I guess like Steve said oblivion ish (or some other invest tank) or 21 xxi ,astral or something

[sage yew]

how would guin work on Dark karen?

[unborn hound]

Jetavie daybreak lol

[shrewd cosmos]

Next path. she's gonna be my copium dark attacker

[wintry parcel]

The other member for the team

Not Scire herself

[shrewd cosmos]

alr, ill prob run that

[zenith thorn]

what?

when i said support,i meant other unit

4guin2ein2gloria support
refer to OTHER unit holding that set

[sage yew]

oh lillith would be using 4 guin 2 ein and 2 gloria ?

[wintry parcel]

Oh by the way

[zenith thorn]

no lillith is main dps

[unborn hound]

Lol

[zenith thorn]

so other suppirt

[wintry parcel]

How do i play Parhelion dps without oblivion?

[sage yew]

Lamia 😯 oh wow.

[wintry parcel]

In warzone specifically

[zenith thorn]

lamia can't hold 4guin

think

[wintry parcel]

My Oblivion is barely built from this version

[zenith thorn]

idk ask zex or kurai

[unborn hound]

like u mean solo?

or with another unit?

[sage yew]

poor lamia

[errant moth]

From the first s rank selector do I pick Liz? Or does it not matter anymore?

[shrewd cosmos]

how does ishmaels kick work? cuz when I run it, it dont consistanly activate unless im doing it wrong. (like for 1 rot it works, next rot it doesnt)

[zenith thorn]

latter