#📨・meta-help
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i get it, but the info there isnt the best you can get. refer to the bots for names, you wanna see picture, go that site
that grey raven site right>?
yes
aight
they buffed everything. the wz mobs. the bosses. cradle is new lightning ppc boss
has 30 mil hp iirc for ultimate ppc
and even more for intensive battle
so outdated acc can't up because of old units
do I prioritize evolving lucia pyroath over nanamin??
everything is ass 
on the gbl teams demographic, it says there are drawbacks with lilith on nihil team if ishmael is SS3 or above. Does anyone know what they are
Gs and dd?
why are u using her as off ele tank
Guys what skills do I choose for memory resonance on cw?
so u have a functional lamia and lilith?
Yep
Wait, wdym slow to proc?
weapon reso is just shred and dlt if u plan to field her for a bit between lilith and lamia
its cause she copies the elemental tank of the amp's element
like if lilith is amp ishmael is gonna copy sicre's shred
since scire is gen 2 and not gen 3 she loses out on the ss3 and above bonus that gen 3 tanks have
From my experience, if Luna dodges something on swap everything will be slowed down thus making me late to press orbs before swapping to lilith
Yeah daren has to rotate doesnt she, ill try that thanks
I mean thats what im already running on her resos anyway
should i run ismael (sss), wanshi (sss), or Nanami (ss3) as tank
sss whel asking for advice
i only have voucher chars sss, besides ish
and only 3 at that
if u run wanshi, ishmael will become amp
if u run nanami too, ishmael becomes useless
Anyone
?
no i mean like im gonna run lilith and luna, but whos tank
Or do I just do whatever
wht rank
S although I am looking to make her ss
if ur doing void, ishmael should be filling as a tank, u need to run another amplifier
You can't choose, they'll be done randomly. For which skills to aim for, do /build (character) in bot info to get the build
i wanna ask if ishmael team are with luna and lilith. what team for lilith in dark team ?
running dark
Oh damn ok
Ty for the info
none of them is dark, just run whoever has r1 for universal shred, they'll need to run 4dv2eins
Np
they all have r1, i just need to know who would preform best
If tank, Ishmael ofc 
ok then run ishmael with 4bath4dv
Do I have to put down 1200 every time i change the bind? Or is it one time for every memory i bind?
luna alr has 4 da vin
would probably be sss wanshi, don’t run ish cuz she copys daren stats
alr tyy
why are u running a dv luna, for dark no less
Bruh, I finally figured it out, i didn't know she can use any ping to get stacks
I was always spamming 3 pings
because ish does more dmg
ah
bro if ur so set about making ur luna a dv slave for a dark team, why do u even need to ask
Anyone have a good video guide on how to play plasma comp
5SLASH GOOOOOOO
bc i needed to know who would shread more
whts tht
Wait so... If Vera Geivaror comes then does Ish copy Epitaph? 
yes
Pyroath plasma rot at high invest no clue if it's ss3 or sss required
but Imma copy u instead 
finally, Ishmael Epitaph 

Oh it's from empress
am I spelling it right? vera geravoir
this rota good for ss3 ish?
geiravor


Gardevoir
from where do i get this ?
event from last patch 
geiravor 
damn she is hard dood 🗿
WHAT THE HELL
dam guess i was late
must've been the wind

thanks
in the upper sub-stage of the abyssal mine (in norman), does anyone know how to keep those lil shits from regaining hp?
yes, kill it faster
:")
12/16/22 on iron maiden with ssr0 Nanami good?
or do the easier way by winning the nodes 1 by 1 instead of going straight to boss node of each stage
?????

I like your monster hunter pfp
at some point you will finish norman with ease once you finish it once anyway. so just keep trying


Actually no idea where it's from anymore
i like your pfp too
I saw it on empress
im only struggling on this specific level of the upper sub-stage, my nanami is busy on team 1 in the first level
Trial units are genuinely horrid
who should i get sig for? https://huaxu.app/na/players/17147892/characters
Explore the 47 characters of epic2k from the North America server of Punishing: Gray Raven.
chrome looks juicy
try to stay within the team requirement. Since off element is just bad unless you're a whale
Ishmael
Ishmael, Pyroath, and Oblivion
pyroath
ohkay, i dont have any built physical unit so i put nanami on 1st lvl
Not 100% sure on the specific priority list but those are the main ones
you can use other teams, dont always need to follow the 30% buff.
is my nihil f2p doing good 
pretty good
2.3m or bricked 
lemme see the team tho
1.1 12 520 011 Luna Ish Lilith 
my ishmael don't even have cub
am i cooked
Yes
actually u could reach 2.1m or 2.2m

try it out 
Luna is holding me back
how important is nanami/chrome sig compared to luna ishmael and lucia? im assuming not as important but if i get the tank sig i can harmonize guenivere
will lilith's concited mirage coating be purchasable later using the coating shards?
Does anyone know Nihil team rotation with S ISHMAEL not SS
S ranks don't have rights 
Like I got these guys but what's the rotation for the Nihil team while having a S Ishamel
Where's my selena to fix my physical 
What does Vergil get at each evolution?
Thanks Narushio https://docs.google.com/document/d/1aYMlzFhVdDiIDZb8ftBxU0AML-bztiYdC8OFgCtKa_E/edit?tab=t.dwtusefdlt1u
Anybody know
u can try the normal ss rot, but be ware that S ranks don't have rights 
so it's gonna be janky
How do I get the button prompts to show on mobile. Ive tried both wireless controllers and controllers that plug in and nothing. Like, it works, but the ui is still touchscreen instead of showing buttons like it does on pc
will ishmael's shards be added to voucher exchange eventually?
yeah in like 2028
💀
Why is my lucia orbs all blue after swapping off of Liliths plasma rotation?
the blue orbs are part of Pyroath's plasma rot
👍
S ish highkey unplayable
false
Guys if am at lvl 38, and have 1.8k serum, how much serum should I dump in Simulated Battlefield approx. to reach lvl 50
thats the case for most s ranks in 2025
ss sets ult1 to 12 energy instead of 30
without ss passive you're losing 18 energy every single rot, which means you get to do like half the rots
you need to find out yourself buddy, no one will know that detail
i would say losing half your damage is pretty unplayable
Alright my bad asking that
@carmine reef do u know by any chance if i can fill 3 ish ults at ss3 before swaping?
brother? you do 4 ults even at ss0
ss3 makes the 4 ults significantly faster
go look up ss3 ish video
i have 600 pain scar rn, who should i up ss first
nanami
whats the sig/ss priority for luna, ishmael, and pyroath
sorry i mean where she eats the orb 3 times, second ultimate*
yes
skill issue i guess
you do 4 of those
how high should solo lilith be getting
idk
Bruh why am I having a harder time with ish than freakin wanshi
so do i get luna or solace tune
I just don't understand how the input of her dodges work
wdym
Do you need four copies of a character for SSS rank?
yea
ty
me either xd
thts adding on ppc shards btw
vergil and dante won't have ppc shards though, right?
You gonna drain the purple bar to make her do the freaky leg stretch right?
idk ive never played during collabs
I am struggling in dark wz even with lilith cuz of lamia should i try and get her weap or is there gonna be a free wep selector
or maybe some1 powercreeping lamia soon
Hell naw
Yes they won't
Lilith IS the powercreep
solo lilith how
full bar into all dodges = kick 2- 3 pings into 2 dodges also = kick
Luna triple ult >>
So pulling Vergil twice, granting four copies, will not reach SSS Rank?
Yes ,you need total 5
That the ping dodge, I don't understand why it doesn't proc when I do that
Thank you
ima just get my sss dante and be done cause im not pulling 3 vergils 😭
huh
Idk if I'll pull for Dante besides enjoying the free single copy, but I'll pull for Vergil once
how about I get your mom 
anyways u get both
if u can't get both get luna ig but still ask others
As nice as it would be to more than double their damage with SSS ranks, that's too much whaling for me lol
Me when I go all in on Vergil's daughter copypaste but don't spend a penny on the actual guy 
i physically cant get both
unless that till shukra selector has luna ( it doesnt have solace right) but idk their release dates
how'd you know 
Hmm isn't same cost for SSS Virgil tho, forget Dante copy and just pull x3 Vergil then you can SSS and S Dante .
The ping then 2 dodges rot you mentioned
That is what am struggling with
I just know 
Pulling for Vergil three times is too much for me since I started playing in the middle of Pyroath's patch
And I want to get both Vergil's and Dante's CUBs, Vergil's weapon and maybe Dante's weapon too
They paywalled two entire weapons :|
20s possible I think
Is that lucid dreamer
Yes
next patch free selector is up to qu
theres no solace or obli in that
How many bc u got rn?
8K

U rich rich fr
My crazy ahh thinking I could save up 72k as f2p for the collab till I saw nana's braindead ass rot butchering everything 
Ishmael and that perma selector we got just made it worse
You really can't save up in this economy 
i usually try copy the title from other videos tbh xD but I usually dont search now really, I just go off of recommended videos
In the next patch how many blue tickets we getting?
I saved up 53k as f2p without skipping
it’s a hard life
Never pulled on sig banner? 
I have a few sigs
no dupes tho (1 dupe by chance)
and I have two bc skins
how do u have 3s already 
oofies fair enough, just tryna find some vid that have the same invest as me 
whale
is there a way i can get both or nah
Voucher saved
what's your Wanshi holding? Memory
4 dv 4 chen
which one of the 3 needs harmony the most?
Tank reso
I also did vouchers still have 10 shards left 
wanshi
Lucid Dreamer first cuz hell hold Chen
So Luna 4Bath 2 Gloria 2 Ein?
alr ty
🐋
u have the check event left?
Why bathlon?
2 Eins 2 Gloria 2 lantern
Aohhhh so had to add another ping
Ahh that latern
Why never come back Lantern 😣
yes but it has only one
get oblivion with that
and slowly pull on thunderbolt research
it costs 15k bc total and u can get solacetune there
hi all i just stareted the game and i got to 2 select s card item can u help me to chosse wht tog et from it
@carmine reef u done nihil yet?
i did a couple taps
but im currently pulling ishmael (for the dark team)
Oblivion is nice but can she work with dmc characters tho 
wheres my last 10 voucher shard 
Score?
4.8m i think
fk dmc and dmc tourists
ishmael is not dark team tho
what to pick i dont have any og thos i just started

i mean like the lilth ish and oblivion thingy that is meta or smth
The tourists ain't gonna ask which teammate to pull for dmc
They js gonna pull for dmc 
she can work as dark tank
Ayo which memory set here do y’all recommend for lilith?
then retired a few days after
Hell Primal Projection
IT : did who now?
Cleared in 20s
on taiwan i got over 2mil with solo ss3 lilith
thats void team aka nihil team and yes its meta

ok fk u then
left for nihil team, right for dark team
First one - support set, 2nd - main DPS (you may need to build both )
just spam the double stack ult
ye nihil
sooo
i mean im very close pity
so after getting ish imma pull on the solacetune one
ezkatka
What did I do 
I js asked if oblivion gonna work with dmc characters
wow thank u for letting me know
like I don't know that 
any one can help a newbie
sorry my bad I am angry with someone else and let it out on u
oh no pookie, who did this to u 
my boss 
how many times do i have to pull a character to SSS it? (every time i get it is 30 shards no?)
All good 
But fr try to be chill with the newbies
Even if they tourists
5 (with ppc skull) you need 4
? 🙂
240
So if no character then 5
what do i pick?
I will keep that in mind
btw to answer your question no obli does not work with dmc
I mean if u include ppc shards
try ultimate
and theres something called outlier point in it
u will get some extra scars there
Can we just throw ish in any team as a replacement for outdated units? Like fire amp for example? Or dark tank?
But without it, it would be like 4
ultimate
wait huh
Phantom pain cage skulls
Remember
Negativity is a big nono
welp time to spend bc to get someone good
what do u need new playa
@raw swift mambo help. Is 19s Hell Projection good ?
no yea, but, isn't 5 for SSS no PPC? or do i need 6
yes it's 5 with no ppc
yes negativity is problem gotta be chill guy
Who do I pick here and where do I spend my BC?
ok then, my math is correct

I can't see Hanying Solacetune so go for her here
And use BCs on Ishmael's banner
Dude he has OBLIVION
Do I need Ishmael's Sig?
btw u r a very chill guy I like u
How much you got rn
Spend it on the themed banner every new character ,and don't spend your black cards on standard, fate, and reruns unless if it's anniversary which is 100% guaranteed
yeah I didn't see that before typing
message deleted
7k
Save
Just when i thought 20s is good enough
if u can afford without skipping next chara why not. also follow what Check pins guy says

btw check pins guy where do I get final 10 shards for lilith
Vouchers
but I already bought this month's 60
Sunday reset
Ayyy appreciate it

Wait hanying? Not Watanabe?
just wait until sunday reset 
I also waiting discount
Wata can be taken from next patch S rank selector
Oh
WHY AREN'T ANY PPC DALAO ACTIVE RN
@vague nebula u also chill 
I NEED ONE OF THEM
thank you 
zexous is not ppc dalao? 
Bro doesn't know...
yeah, solo sucks with that weather
reached like 3.9m
is there a way to get gloria memories still?
shop
dude got 2 nose
yeah 
He's not online and he doesn't reply to me
What resonance do i put on oblivion?

Should I pull on Lilith banner? I really want to get her to ss3 asap but Vera is coming
what are the best Noctis teams? a f2p option possibly
Noctis is A rank so no team
lilith is free
vera garnet, xxi feral
Ik, already finished her free banner, asking if I should do the limited banner
Weapon - Dlt , memory - upper - all atk , bottom - all sig
no unless u r a spender u should not do that
so uhh who does he good support then?
A rank chrome and Liv Lux is the most f2p you can get for lightning
But he’s A rank so it’s not even recommended building him
he's not a support
ok thanks
Do i put precision attack or enhanced power for upper
I mean lux not anymore since Feral bp exists now
Oh right 

Doesn't matter , element can't crit but you can still use if you don't want to reroll, the best is Atk + Def
I just waiting Dazzle and I forget here 2AM already , he might sleep 😴😴
warzone + pain cage x3 rounds done yield only 1,700 bc and i am assuming tomorrow when total 6 stages of pain cage done i will get like 300 - 500 more bc so it will be 2000 bc or 2200 bc for the weekly earning isnt this a bit low for sync?
Does the arrangement matter for the 1-3 or 4-6 memories?
kinda yes
Like I have cottie in 4 and 6 but the PGR site says 5 and 6
very minimal impact
#📨・bot-info use commnad /minmax
don't bother
Thanks for the tips 👍
this is gameplay help channel we talk about meta and you cant talk about meta with out minmaxing for maximum output so yes slots matter
out of all people you're the least qualified to say that statement 
Maybe my weakass nihil score is because of my memory placement 
and you cant deny my statement also it looks alot more clean like it holds way more benefits
tsubricki puller tryna be funny in gameplay-help lmao
Question about those monthly passes, where do the BCs get withdrawn?
Abyss has tsubricki
whats the most important weapon reso for lilith? dlt?
on my crimson weave account yeah

Well it depends
For dark yes
dlt is must have on all construct
alr
No?
Who is out here putting dlt on wanshi
that is what everyone told me and suggest
what you put on wanshi?
Domain deconstruction
did u get cartethiya yet
what does that do?
I Don’t have reso on him tho
Yo guys, just a little help since my brain is working a little slower today, am I supposed to replay this mode 2× times again? Cause I already completed it and it didn't count
Shred
okay like there is a choice for him but mostly construct resoance i pull up dlt is on top
only today? lying ahh🥀 🥀
When we get a new lightning attacker nanami will want decon probably
just redo any stage
Ok, thx , I needed to make sure
Or maybe he already cleared Norman before unlock task ?
I have a feeling they gonna revive that damn witch Bianca and make lightning attacker
dlt and that one that increase everyone's atk
leave her on the ditch 🥀 🥀
oh 
next reset
The next unit has to be ice amp right? Right?

she's already a lightning attacker, maybe void amp
plot twist ice frame that buffs qu
Guess what an amp does
nah, another alpha frame that's going to be dark tank with burn affix

like not replacing her just straight up buffing her making her good
Alpha will be the nihil unit prob
lame
imagine some random like Lee
does heisen work on a qte bot?
Void will not get Tank or Amp due to Ishmael existence, not gonna happen unless she outdated, nihil team both class are unique (for now)
yes
Camu would be goated for nihil attacker
pookie
Lilith leader for dark wz right? Or is it still feesh?
lilith. isn't she 3s for u? or is feesh 3s too?
Oh lilith is 3s
Ohhh, ok got it
Tanks pookie 
is alisa's leap very good?
How much shred SSS daren with leap has again?
does it make her much better for non-affix use?
Yes
You don't need to do the annoying hold basic
nice
What's a good lineup for Lamia? Preferably A rank units
teddy
is a rank 21 even useable anymore
xxi and Lilith
Lilith is free
Lilith is free S rank
2nd best dark tank
to go along with luna?
Oh okay. But isn't Lilith also good for Oblivion?
she is still useable
will forever be useable unless kuso decides yeah lets release an A rank dark tank since its been some years
yes that does not mean she is not dark meta amp
she works in both teams
Main DPS Set
Main DPS
High Difficulty, Pain Cage, Warzone, Clash Reflection, Norman
Recommended for all ranks
General DPS set
Can be used for both her Nihil Tank and Amplifier forms
4x Sothoth
2x Cottie
Top Slot : 6x Any ATK+15 Variant
Bottom Slot: 6x Signature
Cottie
Hi, I'm about to hit a free pity on the weapon banner. Which weapons would you recommend considering, for a no-investment account lol (SS0 and 5* weapons on everyone)?
Oh okay. I'll go with 21 and Lilith
Any dps who needs it
alright
enjoy your dark team 
what is booster's structural part
Idk what those words mean srry
Is there anyone in particular who gets a big boost/gameplay change with their 6* weapon in particular?

Hello. Can I get the link to a video that shows lilith, wanshi, Luna dark team for warzone?
Yeah a lotta units need it so they can cycle more with the help of dlt
it was in normal revival shop
Thank you
These two are prime example
Almost every unit need their sig now
Fire team is my favourite so I think I'll go with pyrath, ty!
Yeah definitely do that if you play pyroath
Seems I can't go wrong with who I pick then lol
She super hight investment
Can someone help a brother🤍 thank you
Watanabi doesn't really need his signature altho having it is not bad
Pyroath really needs it and dlt
what about it compared to nanami, m
Nanami sig is irrelevant just more dmg on hold basic attack
what does dlt essentially do
More orbs to ping
i dont quite understand it, only know that it gives orbs
=more signatures and cycle
=hella more dps
makes sense thanks
Have I missed out on the dmc collab event because I never saw it or anything
I'm pretty sure I was playing all last week
Guys can Nanaknight solo?
Can someone help with this, please?
Also is her Signature really really really important or is 5 Star ok?
The collab is in August
Oh

Thanks
hey there got many questions if yall would be down to advise me on some issues i got:
- I returned after 2 years of not playing after nier collab and getting all 3 units with a2 signature weapon
- other s rank constructs i got are Kamui:trenebrion, Camu:crocotta, nanami:pulse and the 2 free ones feral and crimson weave
- so should i start with a new acc or keep playing with this one?
- also if i continue on this acc who do i choose from the guarantee s-rank construct summon and also selector?
So you got hte nier chars? Then don't start a new one. Just keep playing and doing the events
Just be patient
@steady otter when you see this, please reply.
I can do 12/15/17 on Projection with
- Lilith SSS0 R3 SS CUB
- Wanshi SSS0 R1 (4 DV 4 Chen)
- Luna SS0 R1 (2 Eins 2 Gloria 2 Lantern)
Can you try to get lower and tell me if it's possible or not cuz for me it's not it seems like
first point must mean you are gonna snatch dmc bros and dip again
hello what does this mean exactly which ele is favored here
Sharkspeare is super cute!
It's neutral
Is the Rosetta weapon still the best option for the selector we start with? Idk if she still is the prime tank of physical or not in the future
it means boss has no weakness
use your strongest team
no rn the best option is Veritas bow so u can give it to alisa echo
oOo i forgot that one!
is there a big difference in income between advanced and ultimate? i remmeber doing ultimate 2 weeks ago but i didnt have fully built teams
also rose is no longer premium tank 
Wait that one scales with lightening
Invest in Tenebrion stocks
even if i did what is the purpose of this answer?
just curious it's a nothing burger
did u do outlier point? it lets u get more scars since u r a beginner
then once u have good enough team to at least 1.5mil in ultimate u choose ultimate every week after that
cus ultimate is better
i dont know what outlier point is but i did not get all the currency from the claim all menu thats for sure
Btw I meant the six star weapons
give that to echo cus u want to harmonize it
since she is a amp basically support for your physical team she wants to use da vinci then she also wants to use her own sig set
so thats 8 memory but theres only 6 slot
so if u have a 6 star u can harmo and get extra 2 piece effect on the weapon so that lets her use her optimal build
u need this cus physical can crit and u must crit to do good physical dmg
alisa echo's signature set gives 75 crit rate the other 25 is on your characters
so with that u have 100 crit rate and u can always crit
otherwise u r in malding hell
what's outlier point I thought it's available later
If I got both Dante and Vergil should I pull for tier weapon? Or the bike??
Does their weapon or bike have different animation? Like will they cause any visual difference
vergil sucks without sig
Ahh I see! So it’s not the bonus lightening but the fact that it’s a six star
You'll see it when you get in ultimate ppc. It is next to shop for skulls to use on character.
How long is the story which gives free Dante
?
I haven't played yet
also we have skip button
Thanks for explanation now I’m going for the six star bow so I can do my best in physical, I love Alisa as well so this is nice thank you<3
hello i kind adid this game on and off multiple times don't really have anyone builtother than the vergil like alpha frame, was planning to return for the dmc collab but i also heared that the pity don't carry over to that banner, question here should i pull for this frame? don't think i can get her wep tho
?

Smash
Also holyyy 100% Chris sound awesome!
Use the free pull anyway. It will expire.
its not zzz so animation wise no difference but pet/bike have extra skill iirc
is it a solid plan to keep 15k bcs on hand to instantly pull one of next patch's characters while dumping the rest into thunderbolt to get solacetune? (I already have ishmael and her sig)
I can summon the limited tickets in my global acc right ? As they will not be useful on dmc banner
Get nanami
Should pull on Ishamel with limited ticket
I already have her and pyroath
unless you're not talking to me then whoops
Already pulling her with blue tickets
Okay then get pyroath if yoy have her you can get soalectune next ig
well my phone is charging I will show u in a bit
stuck in advanced rn🥀 🥀
will show u where it is in 10 min
👍 just built pyroath to do my new ppc
Awesome solactune should be a good choice
dw it's fine don't stress
You planning on vergil and selena ?

isn't collab only 2 patches from now?
next is selena and vera, no?
Yup and yup
Solactune good for selena and vergil
ah
I just need a phys unit in general
my wz scores have been laughably low due to it
already planning on it to round out my fire and nihil
dante is not darkflow
pet shard shop
When does pgr story becomes good
ch 9
never 
could u explain in a bitmore detail, like what can I do wit em
the quality difference is immediate and noticeable
Why
buy 30 then go to cub menu and u can combine and u have a cub
some use it to ss a cub
I use it for something else
to ss a cub u need 2 more dupes
okay
When will the story start having cutscenes
which sig should i get. Pyroath, startail, oblivion or solacetune? or maybe save for geiravors?
iirc I got my 1st real cutscene in ch12
Ok
though they do start toying with it around ch 10 with the zygote
ok how are people killing primal projection fast?
Who should i pull there? (I'm getting pyroath already with the thunder thing)
Dude..
just get someone else from thunderbolt kek
lilith sss r3
Kuro games I swear loyalty to solon
https://youtu.be/3Nx_k9DkYws?si=Vs-g0VtlPHNHKRF_
Seems Vergil is MOTIVATED in PGR collab!
It could have been a better fight but here it is! I had planned another ending but the boss couldn't go to the next phase again sadly!
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If yo...
Someone here told me to get lucia there
need r3?
What is projection weak to
Solon may I glaze your pp please
Dark
what pray tell is the difference between getting her on blue vs thunderbolt except that you can get her sooner
Then who should i get on thunderbolt?
startrail if you don't have her
I do
I gotta memories their entire moveset and triggers cause for the first time ever gph may be breached with non meta questions
solacetune then
Pyroath
Okay
r3 is dlt, glorious spear, superconducting axial ray
r3 is what meta ppl go for
u can go for r2 ig, dlt is must
also whats the current situation of your dark team?
"for the first time ever"
but go slowly and obviously make sure you get the current char (ishmael) before dumping into thunderbolt

I almost have her yeah, do i need to get dupes or only s?
Does gph ever get asked non meta questions 
Other than technical questions like 'where is the ui'
honestly just the 1 copy is probably enough since you can SS from ppc
horizontal investment is poggers
u get a dupe=30 shards from ppc
Thanks
literally constantly
this was literally 10 minutes ago i just scrolled up
PFFT
u denying everything? 
Okay non meta but still gameplay related questions does that pass 
calling that a gameplay related question is a stretch
related to the game isn't the same as related to gameplay
judgement nut never end
Oh fk burn is out on cn how are the damage numbers
How cooked am I if I'm saving my standard selector for amp Vera for moar Vergil?
cooked smoldered and fried assuming you don't already have most of the major picks
Why not just get vera at debut
Wait wdym amp vera for Vergil they're different elements
burn is good if u have a good dante
getting vera from selector to have more bc for vergil methinks
nobody is playing burn rn because ts sweeps lmao
Ik. I've got enough free blues for the selector so I'm gonna save it until I can pull amp Vera on it so I have more BC for vergil
16.5m
why is billie not in whel cub shop? 
pls to god don't beat ion
2 elite
Wasn't ion around 18m
well burn is bugged rn isn't it
its what
i heard people say burn wz is bugged rn cause burn dmg is getting 0.3x penalty in its own zone
I have every character except veritas starfarer and ember. Am Luke warm homie
absolute highest boss zone 18.6m
Today is burn/ts wz on cn?
so thats why my nanami was doing piss poor dmg wtf
LMAOOO
pyroath SS3 tho 🥵
i thought i was just bad
yeah
Actually yes. Got a second copy on like 4 pity
Hmmmmmmm so that means ts isn't
For now
The strongest team
Yet
Right-
Ik duo elite and boss isn't too comparable but still
bruh
ts might be tied with ion
SS3 Scire R1, SS0 Lamia R1, and SSS Lilith R2
Hmmmmm honestly I'm fine with that outcome
She's not the exception either same thing happened pulling stigmata and shukra
hey look it's my exact invest
My luck is pretty W for characters
does sss lilith outdmg sss+ lamia?
Not devs listened but not devs ignored and ran with it either
last ion 2 elite actually got less than this weeks ts
Weapons on the other hand...
Eeehhh fluc 
yea prob
Final thoughts on Collab units being meta sir
a terrible thing
one would be bad enough
but two
ik nier existed
i thought we were past that
well your team is good enough imo
I saw someone do a lilith ppc team like this
sss r3 lilith
sss r1 wanshi 4 dv 4 chen
ss r1 oblivion 2 eins 2 gloria 2 lantern
iirc he got 12, 15, 17 vs primal
wasn't nier significantly worse since even off ele they powercrept light and ice
yes they powercrept in many places
Not having lantern really gimps me imo
i thought that was just kuro not knowing how to design a game tbh
Sigh
Welp
It's not the literal worst it could be
Which is about a averahe for kuro
well
What makes you think that changed 
also literally my invest with the exception that it's r2 lilith for me
well i dont think that now lol
startrail
Do we in the big 2025 still think kuro knows how to operate a game
sss r2 and ss cub should be enuff for 14s hell (or r3 + s cub, pick your poison)
assuming you have sss bonkerina r2 and another amp r2, of course
but seeing how your bonkerina too slim, you won't kill hell fast 
There a video for that clear time?
I already have her 
yes it really sucks
i wish they reran it or made something similar which is farmable
Set standards low and you can never disappoint typa shr
ah my bad
solacetune then
Magma is cn okay with it I haven't heard anything
same for me I am also at r2 lilith
tho I have lantern set
was lucky enough to start early
I've seen more complaints about playable skk than dmc meta
I think if they do make something similar it shouldn't be able to stack with lantern
did you do nihil wz yet?
a little bit yes
how was the rots in wz?
yeah otherwise we r back to square one 
it's so different from last week lmao
legend vs hero is supposed to be a big difference but this feels even bigger than normal
i think last week in legend i was on wave 17 or so, this week i've played for like 20 minutes and i think it's at wave 30
w30 hero?
yeah
damn
16s kill is this rota (requires dlt):
1st part: swap in > 3x blue ping > ult > y > r > y > r > y > r > ult2
2nd part: 2x blue ping > ult > y > y > r > ult2
must use qtes on first blue ping and the 2nd qtes are on the 2nd ult1
can make a vid on this if you need it, but dunno if you will have the dmg for it or not
this is mine this week in hero
This is not my week bro
think that's around what i have
gotcha 👍
so which character actually has the highest DPS ?
idk i can push to 5m or not 
How is this dude hitting 4.3m in leader
I can’t find for the life of me a TLDR of stigmata leap online
does dark sharkspeare for ppc not have a weakness and is just a dps check
should be 10m
yep, use ur strongest team
Top 1 leader is only 5.5m
skill issue
wth 3s nihil team but only 4m 
I could get higher if I had a phycial or lighting team built trust
does that mean they fixed burn
yes

Since they are giving everything for crimson weave's build, is she worth to upgrade?
hi guys to i get lamia or shu new player here i started yesterday
no
and no
get nanami startrail
to compete the lighting team ?
No she just does a lot of dmg
For some reason
even if i dont egt her wepon
Do I get nanami sigma and hope I get Selena early next patch
and she wel be good with this to
Startrail needs the weapon the least out of all characters
she out dmg everything in that team
She's BiS in like 3 different teams
What does nanami sigma do again

Mildly loud weather
double dmg her sig
i build her good like this right ?
Ah yes the character that needs the sigma the least
Nanami startrail
which orb color with infinitas for pyroath?
any if you got leap skills
blue if not
I’m just gonna pull nanami sig and hope I have enough to pity Selena

leap skills?
as much as i am a lamia enjoyer, she's the least priority to the meta characters. luna oblivion would be a safer and more viable choice
Startrail requires the least amount of investment to be op
luna need high investment to work
when i got here in 4 pulls then is there a rotation for the team i can watch or do cause i usaly just stick one charter and do the rotion and qte or i have to swap ?
I need that early on her sigma
for lightning?
yea
YouTube
yea what a serch for cause i cant find it
Actually nvm
Startrail solos unless CW is SS3 or SSS
nanami ain't sigma
sorry for all the quest i just started the game yesterday so iam littel confused what to do
Most poeple nanami are ss in YouTube videos
you fine, just ask b4 pull or build, if you care optimal long term playing this game
Give me early sigma
yea that way i asked cause as fre to play i dont wana fk my account
Echo SS3 wort it?
Never pull fate, always get every new character that drops
yea that i see on youtube
who should i SS first: Pyroath, Startrail, Solacetune or lilith?
Ishmael has insane value when it comes to versatility, same for Oblivion
Lilith since she costs nothing to SS
then i continue caue i stick her on multipel team until i get the right one casue shel func as tank or amplif right?
Personally tho I'd say Pyroath SS
that is early right? you still have some pity left?
First 10 pull
how do i SS lilith?
Only 2.5k bc wasted
As long as you have characters to fill in the other 2 roles, yes


I have enough for Selena now
thx man for the help
My luck is crazy in gachas
20 shards from her special shop, buy 10 from vouchers or get the cheap 10 from ppc shop
is there a way to get weapon tickets for free besides the 500 bc ones
No
💔
Yes but like only 1000
where🥀
Which is the monthly pass
You not getting any
it sucks being f2p 🥀 🥀
f2p have no right 
Explore the 18 characters of karasuno from the Europe server of Punishing: Gray Raven.
Who should I get from the dorm shop first?
Is it better to buy leap chips from voucher shop or warzone?
Warzone
I think
Perchance
is there a normal dark team rot with lilith?
2.133 112 111
as new player is this correct or save usb for more important signature later on? 
short question since i dont see it explained anywhere. in the minigame, what do the numbers on the ressources mean. do i have to activate it somehow by paying the ressources or what?
I’m not sure if the other stuff in the war store is huge but the voucher sure seems like it matters more? But the rates may matter
iirc it takes away from resources
but it doesn't actually not let you get it if you don't have it?
maybe it decreases max limit
lilith u dont use the last ult right? u leave with her with the ult ready for next time?
Don’t overthink it too much
Big numbers = select it
Yellow always better
I never noticed lmao I just pressed and coped
how many usbs you got?
I cant make informed decisions if you dont have information 
I just selected the ones with bigger numbers and crit rates for oil
THE NUMBERS MASON
Who to get from the dorm shop first?
there is no need, just read the effects of the item and go with that
I wantapped all of them like that 3 stars
Erm just 1, that's the one from cw mission, i haven't got the one from feral missionm
wanshi
idk why but coconut saved me many times at early and wood later
oof keep it for someone else
solacetune, pyroath or ishmael
they need it way more than startrail
im not doubting that the gamemode is too easy, but my minmax brain still seeks answers
I am a shellionare wym
is there a wz dark team rot with lilith?
2.133 112 111
broke
A shellionare is a shellionare
ok... maybe it really is supposed to be a cost which they forgot to implement.
are you guys blind or lacking information? 
No it gives a general worth of it
Lacking information
Lacking information

Search YouTube
Oh, I'm EN
You’re English?
I have reading issue. Like everyone else 
@carmine reef nvm i dont need to be stressing about dante
old faithful
nana solos
ss3
dmc skippable lets goooo
Is that 56m
hmmge
no lol 5.6m
her burn stuff only applies to the stack application tho right
what's score with dante tho?
oh so this is doable ss0 too?
i dont think that actually does much
assuming nanaknight ss3
i think its doable ss0
full skip ahead lads
oh there is that base dmg thing
is with dante score much bigger than solo nanaknight in burn?
depends on ur dante
Dante also builds burn himself so that's something to consider
yea but nana does that anyway
why does nana scream harder on CN
to represent the CN community
nothing represents the chinese more than screaming -kev
it's still JP VA
but the scream is harder 

naruhodo
i know dmc boys are affix dps but how good/bad are they as elemental dps? like how worse is dante compared to pyroath in a fire stage? is Bianca better than Virgil for physical dmg?
iirc even echo deals more phys than virgin, bianca retires next patch #selenafixphysical

is phys really fixed?
Magma
If you are willing to and have the time
Can you do me a huge favor
fck phys
depends on what it is 
Vergil are quite strong, from what i heard so far, If your solacetune is ss3 - sss, Vergil at S+ = Selena SS3, that what i heard so far, not sure about Dante 
What do you mean Lucia Will Cry on Aug 06? Lucia had been crying for years now
Can you do some testing in burn WZ for me
Obv rn, Dante is the best option for burn
But for people that are skipping him or will have missed out on him in the future, they will need a way to do burn without him
Can you test scores between Jetavie Pyroath and solo Nanaknight and see who does the most?
I currently have Pyroath listed as the alternative in my meta teams chart but Im afraid it might not be true with the other candidates
jetavie 
Could jetavie be like a ok dark dps?
Lilith is right there so no
if u don't have invested lamia, yes
otherwise, feesh is better
Lamia Lamia
paking lamia fans
I don’t own her
wdym "even" don't disrespect her and her stand🥀 💔
Tho actually idk how Wanshi Liilith would compare to like Lilith Jetavie Scire/Ishmael
I ask cause i know Lilith is the main carry of the dark team i heard she cant solo so

Normally I wouldnt consider A-ranks valid competition but affixes function way different so anything is in the realm of possibility here
What about Vergil SSS?
do u have luna?
Ye
so far the A ranks are way worse in affix viability than they are in base element
and u have wanshi lucid dreamer?
Definitely better than he is obviously, but you still need Selena for Glaciation btw 
Yea
i mean luna oblivion btw
Yea i got her ss and wanshi almost to double s
then luna, wanshi, and lilith comp would be better for ur dark content if u dont have another invested dark dps
i have a confession to make
||i never played jetavie|| 
jetaive would still slow u down compared to this comp
time to break hands 
keep in mind my full fire team did 3m
my solo nana did 6m
so i dont think this even needs testing
In burn? Fck
ye
That means I lied on my chart 
Yeah even going by my own calcs Vergil can hit like 10000% on JCE atleast with a full kit
Yea that would make sense
Did u do it with 3S vera or Luna lilith
Do u not have 3s vera
what weathers there are for burn 
no lol
that sounds like a lot
im f2p cn now

It's just one single weather for every affix
why u think i got s 5* sigless cubless dante
But, seem like his peak score in TS will not surpassed ION atp, maybe we need wait till the end of this week, but right now the highest score for TS Vergil in CN is about 16.5 mil or higher than that just a bit 
Alright then thank you :>
is there a chart or guide which is which
Idk of one actually sry
that's some relief
Oh yea Vera would probably be way higher
kinda
that my score is getting dumped on because of anti solo weather on nihil this week
Ion is simply too cracked


