📨・meta-help

[still moat]

19 hell

[rough brook]

guys, should i use SSS lilith or SS ayla in my void team?

[sand plume]

guys what cub skills should pyroaths cub have?

[unborn hound]

there is no way lightning attacker and and another nihil unit would come before either kaleido and bonkerina replacement

also where does a save patch fit in this?

[solid kraken]

is there an easy way to directly compare what amplifier class does at S rank vs SS SSS?

[unborn hound]

the last 2

[sand plume]

ok ty

[buoyant hornet]

Wanted to try ion but nanami stamina was consumed because of the dumbass cw ppc mission lmao

[stray siren]

The amplifier class does not change between S and SS

[sand plume]

bwt what cub skill better?

[solid kraken]

What of SSS and S+?

[unborn hound]

idk

[sand plume]

ohh :/

[buoyant hornet]

Pre-lilith it was just

10% atk and 10% elemental buff that matches the amp's element(s)

SSS doubles that to 20% + 20%

[unborn hound]

if there is a one that pulls enemies take that one

[sand plume]

why?

[stray siren]

Nope, the only change is in SSS

[unborn hound]

because it pulls enemies to be closer together

[sand plume]

ok

[spiral merlin]

now technically ig amp class stays the same regardless of rank

only qte buff changes

[solid kraken]

I thought pre lilith it was 20% at SSS

[buoyant hornet]

20% what exactly

[solid kraken]

switch in bonus

[buoyant hornet]

Nope

[solid kraken]

what did SSS do pre lilith? specifically

[unborn hound]

@buoyant hornet is sss wanshi strat better for ss0 ish then ss3 lilith and luna swap?

[mighty tusk]

I think he meant class passive?

[solid kraken]

10% atk and 10% elemental buff that matches the amp's element(s)
at S or SSS?
Base +10% or 10% total

[solid kraken]

yes

[mighty tusk]

Pre lilith, sss amps have their class passive doubled

[spiral merlin]

amp passive was always 10 10 and sss made it 20 20

now with lilith onwards its 20 20 regardless

[mighty tusk]

[ripe tinsel]

Already have LingLing what should i pick?

[mighty tusk]

Now sss amps and beyond have qte reset on sss

[spiral merlin]

a much less valuable upgrade

[solid kraken]

So, there's a lot less of a reason to SSS lilith compared to other amps?

[solid kraken]

i'll take that as a yes

[spiral merlin]

sss lilith is very important

[solid kraken]

why

[spiral merlin]

i mean the qte reset alone is not important

its the other buffs that matter

[mighty tusk]

Unless you like doing double qte on the ss3 attackers with qte nukes

[unborn hound]

if u don't have acub for ice pick seashell and same with thorny for phys

hawk tuah is not neccesary cause lilith

[solid kraken]

what're you referring to?

[vestal birch]

How do you unlock weapon harmony level 2 and 3?

[vale raft]

Lilith: Daemonissa

Skill - SSS

Truth-Shattering Fable

Level 1 - Unlocked at SS3

Ally units healed by Lilith: Daemonissa gain another 10% Dark Radiation effect. If Lilith has the Joker's Mark, they will also gain a 10% Electroradium Transformation effect. Base DMG of Joker's Trickery increases by 120%. Base DMG of Night Embrace - Alarming Daybreak and Night Embrace - Mysterious Vanishment increases by 80%.

Level 2 - Unlocked at SSS

When all members are switched in, cooldown of QTE Skills will be reset. Meanwhile, ally units healed by Lilith: Daemonissa will gain another 10% Dark Radiation effect. If Lilith has the Joker's Mark, they will gain a bonus 10% Electroradium Transformation effect. Lilith will also deal 190% Dark DMG 4 times when casting Dreamfall Showdown. If she has the Joker's Mark, deals 70% Plasma Beam DMG instead. If she casts it at Card Rank C/B/A/S/SS, deals an additional 3/4/5/6/8 times the damage.

[ripe tinsel]

Aight thx G

[spiral merlin]

the +10% buff on qte heal and insane dmg buffs in liliths case

[mighty tusk]

Dark radiation buff

[spiral merlin]

basically doubles her ult dmg

[mighty tusk]

You dont

[solid kraken]

dark radiation is like bathlon, right?

[spiral merlin]

no lol

[mighty tusk]

No, it's for dark healers

[spiral merlin]

this is a buff on heal not a debuff shred

[vestal birch]

Oh
I'm confused why is there level 2 and 3 then

[stray siren]

40% bonus dmg to healed character (Dark)

[mighty tusk]

Kuro didn't remove it in on live servers

[solid kraken]

does the bot have the definition of dark radiation?

[vestal birch]

oh

[spiral merlin]

uhh idk where to find it off by heart

[slender hemlock]

Out of Lilith or Ishmael, who should I spend PPC skulls on?

[spiral merlin]

its literally just a dmg buff

[stray siren]

i think is in core

[unborn hound]

it got updated

[stray siren]

but reading core

[vale raft]

PGR Damage Formulas

Physical Damage (Non-Crit) - **White Numbers**/Slash Affix(Non-Crit) - **Orange Numbers**

Skill Scaling Percentage x (Base ATK x (1 + ATK Increase) + Final ATK) x (1 + Phys DMG Increase) x (1 + Base DMG Increase) x (1 + Extra DMG Increase) x (1 - New DEF Stat) x (1 - Physical Resistance) x (1 - Extra DMG Reduction) x Float = Final DMG Output

Physical Damage (Crit) - **Yellow Numbers**/Slash Affix(Crit) - **Orange Numbers**

(2 + Crit DMG Increase) x Skill Scaling Percentage x (Base ATK x (1 + ATK Increase) + Final ATK) x (1 + Phys DMG Increase) x (1 + Base DMG Increase) x (1 + Extra DMG Increase) x (1 - New DEF Stat) x (1 - Physical Resistance) x (1 - Extra DMG Reduction) x Float = Final DMG Output

Elemental - **White Numbers with elemental icon**/Affix Damage (does not include Slash) - **Orange Numbers with affix icon**

Skill Scaling Percentage x (Base ATK x (1 + ATK Increase) + Final ATK) x (1 + Elemental DMG Increase) x (1 + Base DMG Increase) x (1 + Extra DMG Increase) x (1 - Elemental Resistance Resistance) x (1 - Extra DMG Reduction) = Final DMG Output

[spiral merlin]

Elemental DMG Increase

[solid kraken]

dark radiation- 40%dmg buff to alies
ss3-50%
sss- 60%

[spiral merlin]

its 40 at sss

[solid kraken]

does "allies" include self-healing?

[spiral merlin]

yes

but combined with amp passive that makes total elem dmg increase 60

[vestal birch]

Do i have to clear all 14 stages of clash reflection to get the harmony accelerator thing?

[solid kraken]

So,
s 20
ss3 - 30
sss - 40

[spiral merlin]

ye

[mighty tusk]

Does wanshi use tank class resos in glacio?

[spiral merlin]

Ally units healed by Lilith: Daemonissa will gain the Dark Radiation effect which boosts their Dark DMG by 20% for 8s. Duration resets every time the effect is triggered.

[solid kraken]

thanks

[spiral merlin]

i believe so

[mighty tusk]

Gonna ask ek to add it to the bot

[spiral merlin]

[deft apex]

if u want to check for buff/shred names go to observation notes on ish

Literally all is there

[spiral merlin]

wheres my plasma dmg buff name

[solid kraken]

are ishmael's amp / tank buffs exactly the same as amp / tanks? or slightly weaker?

[spiral merlin]

electrosmth

[deft apex]

Sss lilith

[fallen schooner]

is there gonna be a free selector soon that includes up to wanshi?

[spiral merlin]

whatever bs kuso cooked

[deft apex]

Electroradium or smth

[solid kraken]

but you can use ishmael with every element, right?

[spiral merlin]

Electroradium Transformation

[deft apex]

Cooked

[buoyant hornet]

Yeah

[still moat]

[solid kraken]

what rank do you want ishmael at?

[spiral merlin]

ss3

ideally

[slender hemlock]

What about Lilith?

[solid kraken]

does sss tank ishmael mean quicker swap times?

[spiral merlin]

sss ideally

[spiral merlin]

yes unless lilith is in the team

[slender hemlock]

Hmmm I have like 200 skulls should I spend it on Lilith or Ishmael?

[solid kraken]

wdym unless lilith

[spiral merlin]

scire doesnt have -3s cooldown

[still moat]

[spiral merlin]

dont use any skulls until you have enough to fully rank a unit

but that said, ish is not free and lilith is

[solid kraken]

?

[frozen creek]

Not phys

Elements yes

[quiet lily]

But phys is not element

[frozen creek]

[deft apex]

Its an attribute

[quiet lily]

[frozen creek]

https://tenor.com/view/brain-damage-gif-26047154

[deft apex]

:starege:

[still moat]

[slender hemlock]

Ah I have both

[deft apex]

[zenith thorn]

ish copies scire
scire have no -3s

[spiral merlin]

mid about to drop

[sand laurel]

I can hear Lilith’s voice from behind the closed gates, but MAYBE its only in my head

[still moat]

its in ur head

[frozen creek]

This game give me Lilith wep and gold coins before Lilith

[final fog]

Whats the reason for this?
Cause reset?

[deft apex]

I have everything but her sig

[still moat]

https://tenor.com/view/ohnepixel-jeepers-oh-jeepers-ohne-pixel-ohne-gif-15198820313195835496

[frozen creek]

[spiral merlin]

cause you dont wanna be stuck in a sunk cost fallacy

[still moat]

i forgot i need to do these first

[frozen creek]

[frozen creek]

Slacc

[final fog]

?

[vestal birch]

If I change memory resonance do I have to re-hypertune it

[obtuse sapphire]

Do i now just get her sig weap?

[still moat]

no

[vestal birch]

bless up

[fallen schooner]

guys is there any free selector anytime soon?

[still moat]

yes

[dusty python]

I just started, who do i pick on the s selection chest?

[spiral merlin]

if u spend all ur skulls as u get them ur stuck and kinda forced to keep going for them to see results

[vestal birch]

every time i see ur username it tweaks me out bc my Instagram username is aztriel lmaoo

[spiral merlin]

best hold off so you can freely choose

[still moat]

why are u stealing my name

[vestal birch]

maybe u stole mine ...

[still moat]

maybe

[pallid coral]

Wht should I choose?

[spiral merlin]

doesnt matter lol

[vestal birch]

[pallid coral]

Wdym

[spiral merlin]

cw starts all blue

[vestal birch]

I think she starts off with blue right so maybe that idk

[spiral merlin]

it doesnt matter

[fallen schooner]

when?

[still moat]

next patch

[pallid coral]

Ooh ty

[pure fern]

what rot for ss3 hanying?

[sand laurel]

pick blue for inner peace and harmony (it doesn't matter for cw)

[zenith thorn]

which one

[spiral merlin]

pick yellow for chaos

[pulsar viper]

Would pulling on Lilith banner with limited tickets be a bad idea if you are a spender? How much is it for a full rotation, it looks like you get tickets back

[fallen schooner]

okay ty

[spiral merlin]

if ur a spender go nuts

u can get a usb, second copy, tickets back

[stray siren]

Like 13 K per lilith on spender banner

[pallid coral]

If this one?

[spiral merlin]

up to 3 usbs if u go that far

[spiral merlin]

doesnt matter bc you cancel them anyway lmao

[iron kindle]

whats the difference between a gen 2 and a gen 3 construct?
and when does gen 3 start?

[pulsar viper]

Oh wow I thought you were being sarcastic it looks like a good deal I can use my vouchers instead to work on s+ wanshi

[pulsar viper]

Damn that’s not bad

[still moat]

i put blue for pyro

[obtuse sapphire]

Is the reso i have gud?

[still moat]

darwin.....

[zenith thorn]

dsrwin

[obtuse sapphire]

Someone suggested it here

[still moat]

who

[zenith kernel]

https://media.discordapp.net/attachments/900552465303343144/1178179624165969940/SelAylaNom.gif

[zenith thorn]

ping him

[still moat]

kill them

[zenith thorn]

absolute dumbass recc

[zenith kernel]

?
Is this Miku

[spiral merlin]

spender banner is like 200x80 - 3k tix - 7.5k usb - whatever u value free unit shards at

[pallid coral]

So can you tell me please? Why should I pick?

[zenith thorn]

diff migu

[spiral merlin]

pick any it doesnt matter

[pallid coral]

Oky

[obtuse sapphire]

Since they said I don't have 6* weap i should go w darwin instead or the other memory that i forgor(i also forgor the user)

[zenith kernel]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/867995160854806588/1346215870904664255/image0.gif

[pulsar viper]

Ooo I see

[zenith kernel]

Cooked

[still moat]

i found out who

[zenith thorn]

bruh

[spiral merlin]

💀

[still moat]

time to kill this guy

in game

[zenith thorn]

5* hsr should use cottie

[still moat]

wtf

[zenith kernel]

@zinc charm what the ?

[still moat]

jsut use heisen

[zenith thorn]

wtf rydle lies to me

[stray siren]

and u can buy a weapon resos with the extracoins

[sand laurel]

darwbricked

[zinc charm]

Whar whar

[zenith kernel]

[zinc charm]

I just woke up

[spiral merlin]

we're gonna kill you

[zinc charm]

What happened wth

[sand laurel]

@ Moderator

[spiral merlin]

in minecraft

[zenith thorn]

nice misinfo

[livid ravine]

should I go for watanabe and finish my fire team or lamia?

[zinc charm]

What misinfo

[stray siren]

watanabe, Lamia is almost ded

[zenith kernel]

Darwin Nana is diabolical

[livid ravine]

alright

[zinc charm]

Wait what

[zenith kernel]

@zinc charm

[pulsar viper]

Oh wait if I want the skin I need to pull anyways right? There’s no ftp way to get it?

[dusty python]

The beginner one with the characters
Liv, Lee, Kamui, Karenina, and Nanami

[barren plank]

That's only with leap tho

[zenith thorn]

doesn't matter, old selector

[zenith kernel]

I think we gotta kill this guy fin

[spiral merlin]

if u dont leap what are u doing

[barren plank]

Fair

[zenith kernel]

Jumping

[stray siren]

yea, u can get it via dorm green things

[sand laurel]

just pick what you like, they all out of meta

[zenith thorn]

hoplite?

[zinc charm]

Oh it's yukii guy

[dusty python]

Oh ok thxx guys

[pulsar viper]

Ohhh

[still moat]

does the bot not recommend heisen

[vale raft]

Nanami: Startrail <:s_rank:1287636749052412026><:tank:1290614106520555571><:lightning_element:1287636531321765959><:combustion:1288089747952107581>

Main DPS Set

Usage

Main DPS

Game Modes

High Difficulty, Pain Cage, Warzone, Clash Reflection, Norman

Description

Recommended for all ranks
General DPS

Memories

4x Herschell
2x Heisen

Memory Resonances

Top Slot : 6x Any ATK+15 Variant
Bottom Slot: 6x Signature

Harmony Recommendation

Heisen

[still moat]

it does

[left fern]

Is ishmael in Nihil team more usefull as tank (wata replacement) or as amp (alya replacement)?

[zenith kernel]

13s Hell Lilith

[obtuse sapphire]

So do i change memory or.. i kinda just wasted a lot of serums for the reso

[zinc charm]

DEADASS someone gave me a pass with 2 Darwin too I forgot who

[spiral merlin]

down the chain of command

[zenith kernel]

Lmao
Chain of Misinformation

[left fern]

FAKE NEWS

[zinc charm]

[zenith kernel]

The pyramid scheme of misinformation

[dull moon]

is void only in legendary warzone?

[zenith kernel]

No
Hero too

[spiral merlin]

i bet ezra is at the top

[left fern]

I guess, Legend and Hero

[zenith kernel]

[dull moon]

is void the one where you choose between two?

[zinc charm]

Depend on wz cycle and tier

[quiet lily]

Void can be main zone no?

[barren plank]

Huh void wz is in all ranks

[zenith kernel]

Should be in leader since unlike plasma void gets into main element zones

[zinc charm]

It could be on mixed some or independent zone

[pulsar viper]

Before I waste tickets on Lilith banner. What’s the possibility of double paid s character releases next patch?

[obtuse sapphire]

I'll take that as a yes

[zenith thorn]

pgh on crack

[quiet lily]

100% triple patch

[still moat]

where my 4 herschell 4 shakespeare nanami build at

[pure fern]

what harmony for alisa? ts team

[left fern]

Question for Void/Nihil
Is ishmael in Void/Nihil team more usefull as tank (wata replacement) or as amp (alya replacement)?

[pulsar viper]

What three paid s?

[quiet lily]

Same sht

[quiet lily]

Selene jeta vera

[zinc charm]

Selena jetavie vera

[pulsar viper]

Fkkkkk

[zenith kernel]

Yeah change
Darwin does fuckall with Nanami since she pings orbs once or twice every 10 years

[pure fern]

dav?

[pulsar viper]

That month will be brutal

[quiet lily]

Ye 4p signa 4p dv

[stray siren]

depends on ur investment

[spiral merlin]

months

dmc and half anni unit right after lmao

[pure fern]

thanks

[zenith kernel]

Yeah
3s Nana broken so Luna becomes qte bot if she isn't 3s

[barren plank]

"F2P friendly game"

[pulsar viper]

Sssing all those characters will hurt my wallet so much

[spiral merlin]

w this is so player friendly

[left fern]

wata is at SS+Sig, Alya at SS7 + Sig
Ishmael still at S5 or so, im still building her

[zenith kernel]

Surely the unit is free

[zinc charm]

Surely it's free for all of them

[spiral merlin]

half anni
free

[pulsar viper]

But the collab units are cheaper to sss tho right?

[spiral merlin]

technically

[zenith kernel]

I'm cooked
I might need to skip schizo sig
Or maybe I'll just skip vergil fr

[spiral merlin]

but 2 in one patch

[zinc charm]

Don't forget the 80% weap

[stray siren]

If u have SSS amp, so Tankmael could be better option, but if u dont have SSS amp, but you do have SSS tank, so Ampmael should be better

What about Wanshi??

[spiral merlin]

80% wep, cub, undiscounted

[pulsar viper]

Ok good I can take a bit of a breather

[zinc charm]

Chat is this real

I have 3s wanshi

[pulsar viper]

I have 1 emergency weapon selector just in case I somehow lose a 80/20

[waxen vine]

94,500 to sss+ vergil minus from that to get sss value

[left fern]

Wanshi currently at SS4
Luna at SS7 like Alya

[zinc charm]

I don't think I am gonna pull dmc

[spiral merlin]

rip trueslash ppc

[zinc charm]

Maybe i will for the sake of ts and burn

[zenith kernel]

Azriel piloting my void got this

With 3s Nana

[pulsar viper]

Wait wdym to get sss value

[zenith kernel]

[pulsar viper]

Why do I need to s+

[barren plank]

Watc them make a voucher unit right after half anni too or sm sht

[waxen vine]

sss cost i mean

[zinc charm]

How's the rot there

[pulsar viper]

Ahh I see

[zinc charm]

1 ult per rot?

[rapid oar]

what do i say to my friend on who to get on the very old s rank selector?

[spiral merlin]

icl seeing munan in hero warms my heart
we had a battle for retain last week
guess who won

[spiral merlin]

probably will tbh

[zenith kernel]

https://youtu.be/4wb9f0A0JTI?si=VxRO6PgatAz9RaBx

4rot 3 rot

[pulsar viper]

Yeah June and July is definitely the worst months to be a spender ffs

[stray siren]

U can get at least 4.6M with this comp

[zinc charm]

Okay dalao I am gonna try that zaza probably now

[pulsar viper]

Good thing there’s no new gacha skins

[spiral merlin]

lucia wife

[zinc charm]

HOLY SHI

[pulsar viper]

FKKKK

[spiral merlin]

[stray siren]

Maybe wanshi better atm

Using ampmael

[zenith kernel]

🐳

[zinc charm]

How is the rot there

[pulsar viper]

Yeah I’ll probably have to go ftp in wuwa for June and July

[spiral merlin]

rip cartethiya

[pulsar viper]

Oh don’t say that

[waxen vine]

#📨・meta-help message hope this helps

[zinc charm]

I am on guaranteed 5 star in wuwa

[stray siren]

Like the video Vera's Chair sent you

[pulsar viper]

I make an effort to collect at least one copy of everyone in wuwa

[zinc charm]

DEADASS all my limited unit is guaranteed I KEEEP LOSING MY RATE UP

[zinc charm]

I c I c

[still moat]

have u tried not losing

[zinc charm]

I tried

[still moat]

well clearly u didnt try hard enough

[zinc charm]

[left fern]

Oh right, i was accustomed to watas simple style compared to wanshis quanthum combos.
My bad, noted
Cute little devil+Sleepy john wick+Sexy space legs instead of
Cute little devil+Uncle+Sexy space legs

[pulsar viper]

Appreciate it I’ll take this to account for my whale spending calculations

[opaque ridge]

Wheres all the dmc appreciators at?

[waxen vine]

you mean your f2p calculation

[spiral merlin]

everywhere

someone needs to cast them out

[pulsar viper]

Ah yes I forgot I’m supposed to be ftp

[spiral merlin]

if i hear another 'im preparing for dmc' im gonna lose it

[rare vault]

When did global sync started?

[waxen vine]

[barren plank]

Oblivion patch, they combind Teddy and Bridget patches withh it

[still moat]

im preparing for dmc

[pulsar viper]

Damn Selena and Vera next patch

[true pivot]

im preparing not for dmc, what should i do

[rare vault]

So it got like 2 A ranks in one patch?

[still moat]

pack it up time to be ss0 player

[waxen vine]

i have been preparing for dmc collab since January

[whole falcon]

Everyone that skips main story chapters past chapter 10 will be subjected to 24 hours of vergil judgement cut memes with their eyes peeled open like clockwork orange

[still moat]

playing ss0 character might as well dont play the game

[true pivot]

skipping dmc

[pulsar viper]

[zinc charm]

I assume Luna is holding 4 davinci 2 Gloria 2 eins?

[barren plank]

Yes for a total of three new characters in one patch

[waxen vine]

i already completed whole story in the game

[stray siren]

yes

[stoic niche]

next patch is triple?

[whole falcon]

Alot of people that join for dmc will skip the story

[zinc charm]

Alr

[waxen vine]

yes

[zinc charm]

Time to zaza let me see if I am skill issuing

[stoic niche]

so 30k bc?

[waxen vine]

cus they dont know how much bc they need if they are f2p and second story gets annoying

[waxen vine]

no clue check bc planner

have you played strong hold? game mode it will give you PTSD

[obtuse sapphire]

Does elements don't work on crit reso? Is that true

[stoic niche]

me?

[waxen vine]

crit is only for physical it does not work on elements

[fluid compass]

Should I pull for Wata CUB

[waxen vine]

was not saying to you in specific but yeah if you need alot of bc than should play strong hold but be warned its very difficult

[stoic niche]

im at stage 20

[waxen vine]

wow you are almsot done good for you and what are your thoughts on it?

[stoic niche]

my third team sucks others are too strong

[still moat]

peak (i dont understand any of this)

[inner ferry]

Hypothetically, how long does it take farm Lilith?. Also how do I get her for free?

[stoic niche]

so i clear it later

[waxen vine]

okay like you got 8k bp on other teams?

[stoic niche]

no main dps 7280 bp

so far it's easy

but not for third team

[waxen vine]

that is good idk why but i struggled in it a bit more after 20th stage i believe max stages is 24 cus after 20 the stage affixes gone crazy and were really challenging

[stoic niche]

after i get selena it will be easy so im in waiting mode

[acoustic wigeon]

Wow it's rare to see someone win ts
I won only once and everytime I used to bet on everything

[acoustic wigeon]

You can get her in one day if you're lucky

Read the pinned messages

[bronze quail]

Is there a way to farm cogs or all i can do is hope the store is selling it?

[waxen vine]

selena pianssimo? and this is my character roaster and i struggled with them

[acoustic wigeon]

You should be able to in the simulated battlefield again

[stoic niche]

yes

[bronze quail]

When i do it keeps giving me the currency for the special shop
Or can i change the loot i want somewhere?

[acoustic wigeon]

Huh ?

[waxen vine]

in norman revival plan you can select a support unit and when someone uses that support unit you get cogs

[stray siren]

It is like crypto, buy, get scammed

[high snow]

Where can i get more hypertune materials

[waxen vine]

guild battles and dorm shop

[bitter plinth]

Hangying sss still need dlt or no bro?

[stray siren]

Yes

[waxen vine]

every meta unit needs dlt

[normal sierra]

there is a cog box in that shop, so just buy that

[bitter plinth]

Ok ok

[stray siren]

She still sucks at SSS btw

[waxen vine]

solace tune right?

[bitter plinth]

I'm just lucky in fate bro got 2

[normal sierra]

r3 sss+ and sss+ cub or unplayable

[bitter plinth]

Yes

[stray siren]

yes

[bronze quail]

I know there's that
The question is if i can grind directly or if the only thing i can do it buy it

[waxen vine]

omg i am not crazy i knew it was the unit and not me cus even with her my physical does no damage like i got bianca stigmata alisa echo and solace tune but damage is not even there

[ornate oasis]

Should lilith equip dps set mems or support mems

[bitter plinth]

I use DPS mems cause no lamia
And build sup mems too for nihil sup or plasma beam

[waxen vine]

depends on the team and content like if you using her as support you switch to support memory but if she is main dps than battle set

[ornate oasis]

Or does lilith need two builds?

[stray siren]

I mean, her damage is okay, but her gameplays is trash

[bitter plinth]

Yeah

[waxen vine]

i think physical is shet to begin with

[stray siren]

Try solo hanying, Bianca is negative damage if u dont have SSS alisa

[bronze quail]

All it does is giving me Simulation Score
I am asking if i can grind cogs instead

[normal sierra]

but why does that even matter?
it's just 3 extra clicks
but no, that's the only way to get cogz consistently, and it was always the best way

[forest sparrow]

Didn't there used to be an indicator here on how many coop missions I'd have to do if I wanted the coop currency thingy?

[waxen vine]

you mean to not switch just solo with her?

[ornate oasis]

If with lamia for dark (tho i dont have Karen) does she still carry sup mem? And how abt plasma team

[dull moon]

is jetavie going to be the new dark dps

[ornate oasis]

Isn’t she an a rank

[waxen vine]

if i am not wrong lilith out damages lamia so lilith will be main dps lamia as sub dps and get no 21 sss rank and you got a team

[dull moon]

thats what i was thinking, people were saying triple banner so was confused @ornate oasis

[normal sierra]

that is removed, coop useless now
next patch we get those weapon shards with daily login rewards

[stray siren]

yeah, use han 4 chan 4 cottie

Any other support 4 DV 2 Voltaire 2 Catherine (if u have another tank with one weapon reso add Domain Deconstruction)

Alisa 4 Signa 4 Phillip II

[ornate oasis]

I have that already so with dark team lilith needs dps mem?

[bronze quail]

I dunno
Wondering if it would be more cost efficient
But if that's the case that's fine

[sand laurel]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/867995160854806588/1305189436509655090/2CA8AB09741CA3523380781544D81B8C.gif

[waxen vine]

yes dps memories

[ornate oasis]

As far as I know jetavie is a resting patch

[steady otter]

Is this last stage ?
This event is goat

[forest sparrow]

[steady otter]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/827230733311016980/1371493035065741464/image0.gif

[waxen vine]

ohhh this smart

[ornate oasis]

Alrighty thanks but is the general suport build viable for her as a support at plasma? Or does she equip plasma mems

[high snow]

New commandant supply crate worth it?

[still moat]

nah it just opened

[normal sierra]

last stage open there already?

[waxen vine]

in #📨・bot-info you do ./build command for constructs it gives you a selecton for builds for specific uses lilith has a different build for her plamsa content so you switch memory and stuff for that content

[steady otter]

MOREEEEEEEE

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/1182336345801244712/1315577543591465001/image0.gif

[ornate oasis]

Alrighty thank youuuu!!

[waxen vine]

no worries if you got more question than feel free to ask

[normal sierra]

no, it's like buying scrap metal
just ignore everything there except hypertune mats

[steady otter]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/1139425181010509894/1282166616335061063/1724290472754450.gif

[high snow]

Yeah figured so, thanks

[ornate oasis]

Does lilith need weapon resos or should I save it for future characs

[bright burrow]

are we feeling good today pgr nation

[icy otter]

No I hypertuned cw 😔

[bright burrow]

time to start a new account :(

[fluid crow]

Is Scire still good? Thinking if I should take her to SS or wanshi to SS3 via trade voucher

[barren plank]

She would need to have leap and signature weapon to be worth it tbh

If you are lacking Lamia Scire SS is especially moot

So I would just go Wanshi SS3 cause Scire is really old anyways

[zinc charm]

@zenith kernel @stray siren
I am skill issuing my score is 3.8m with 3s wanshi and amp ish

[rapid oar]

does any1 have a lilith rot vid?

[real jackal]

what on earth are the rotations for:

SS3+DLT Trueslash Hanying
SS3+DLT Ishmael
SS3 Lilith?

[celest harness]

where to put Cottie on CW ?

[limber yoke]

Hey guys what am i doing wrong i cant kill lilith

[hollow pond]

Where is the 5 star weapon shard reward on coop? I cant find it

[vale raft]

Current Roadmap (as of May 24th 2025)

[cobalt sun]

They removed the reward, you will be able to obtain it again in later patch as part of daily missions

[hollow pond]

Ohhh okayy, thank you

[frigid iron]

Is Lilith harmo just cottie?

dam what happened to gph

[stoic niche]

so they didn't change it?

[normal sierra]

is that a 1 stack ult? I don't see the 2nd card turning up on the UI there

[limber yoke]

Yes

[zenith thorn]

did u crit

[regal ledge]

so traveler journey is open

[normal sierra]

then just do 2 stack ult, that kills for sure

should do Y > R > Y > R > Y > ult for 2 stack ult kill
you did Y > Y > R > Y > ult

[frozen creek]

Change what

[limber yoke]

No

[brittle stratus]

Should I get echo from the new banner? Or should I use my tickets on Ishmael? (I want echo for physical team)

[frozen creek]

Never pull arrival or fate ever ever ever

[limber yoke]

Does that mean i can kill 11

[frozen creek]

Use on Ishmael
Echo is free from dorm commissions

[normal sierra]

yes
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BcnaMldnzBE

[frozen creek]

Should be

[real jackal]

at what point does lilith need dlt?

[barren wadi]

Just wanna ask will I be able to exchange event construct R&D ticket to dmc R&D ticket?

[stoic niche]

only 60 pulls are claimble even tho there is more missions with them

[brittle stratus]

Okok

[frozen creek]

I’m pretty sure you can only get 60 for free yeah

That’s enough for Lilith + wep + cub + 20 shards

[limber yoke]

Wtf he did it already

Scam

Anyway

Ill just ss pet

Should be enough

[azure barn]

Should I just spend vouchers for 10 shards with no discount

[normal sierra]

60 is soft cap, but not hard cap
if you had, for example, 58 claimed already, and you take a mission that gives 5, you can get 63 tickets

[wintry parcel]

i doubt

[normal sierra]

you actually have time to do another ult1 at the end too for 11s
that is his lower invest kill

[frozen creek]

But you whel all of it using yellows anyways

[limber yoke]

I just follow ovo

[azure barn]

Am I locked out of some PPC kills if I don't have SSS Lilith or nah?

[limber yoke]

Yrs

[azure barn]

Damn it

[frozen creek]

Just s+ everyone no more issues

[still moat]

nanamiverse

[azure barn]

Should I do this then

I lose about 3960 Vouchers if I buy 10 shards with no discount

[still moat]

i just did

i still have like 40K at some point i will have too much voucher

[azure barn]

True

I think I have every farmable unit at SSS already so

[still moat]

mostly gonna save it if i need to abuse s+ CW from BP shards

[normal sierra]

I will get the last 10 tomorrow too, just 4k extra voucher

[limber yoke]

K whel

[normal sierra]

did cn got any new voucher chars? I don't remember

[wintry parcel]

no

[zenith thorn]

alisa is the recent one

[glacial skiff]

For anyone wondering about how the DMC cub and weapon banner looks like:

[normal sierra]

I mean, she was there since... a long time already

[stoic niche]

should i hypertune?

[zenith thorn]

yeah exactly

[ripe tinsel]

You're late af

[worthy basin]

who should i pick?

[zenith thorn]

yes

[wintry parcel]

sooner or later

[ripe tinsel]

That's the correct one

[still moat]

next is lamia leap save ur vouchers

[wintry parcel]

Lilith is your dark dps

[worthy basin]

ok thanks

[slate gull]

real?

[stoic niche]

what should i choose?

[still moat]

yea

[azure barn]

Is SSS3 Scire worth atp

[wintry parcel]

i think he's joking

[normal sierra]

doesn't matter, she only has blue at start anyway

[still moat]

daren in 2025

[raw swift]

Hi...it will make her better significantly....?

[still moat]

https://tenor.com/view/ตกใจหมดเลย-kid-shock-surprise-jumpscare-gif-17285608

[ashen mountain]

lilith is 21 support

[zenith thorn]

oh gph brainrot hour

fck this

[zealous mantle]

SS0 Lilith has higher DPS than SS0 Lamia in PPC?

[azure barn]

Yes

Lilith is better in pretty much everything

[glad folio]

Hello, which part of Ishmael's kit gives her shield? I just replayed her tutorial and the cycle didnt give her shield

So why put ishmael's pic on clash reflection this week? i remember getting shield on her during CR gameplay but dont know how to trigger it

[zealous mantle]

is Lamia retired or does she have niche usage?

[ripe tinsel]

How to get ppc skull without waiting for next week?

[normal sierra]

but she can't swim

[raw swift]

Outliner...

[ripe tinsel]

What's that

[azure barn]

She's fully retired in PPC, maybe even IB

[zealous mantle]

how about WZ?

[azure barn]

But ofc u still use her in WZ

Lilith can't sustain Solo

[zealous mantle]

and no feesh breeding pond

[zealous mantle]

Daren as DV bot?

[azure barn]

Yes

[raw swift]

Outliner.

[azure barn]

You don't spin anymore

[ripe tinsel]

[celest harness]

where to put Cottie for the recommended build for CW ?

[azure barn]

After uppercut, you slam down immediately

[azure barn]

Anywhere at the bottom row

[ripe tinsel]

Wtf is PPC outliner bruh

[raw swift]

Outliner.

[azure barn]

Old bosses graveyard

Also it's Outlier

[zealous mantle]

thanks!
for PPC, what's the optimal 1 shot rot?
is it:
swap into Lilith> 2x blue > Ult 1 > yellow > special red > yellow > special red > Ult 2?

[ripe tinsel]

How tf do i access that?

[raw swift]

Outliner.

[azure barn]

You'd need an extra Yellow at the end to have enough energy to do Ult 2 but yes that's correct

[ripe tinsel]

https://tenor.com/view/listen-here-you-little-meme-you-little-shit-damn-you-damn-it-chicken-kiev-gif-25718782

[zealous mantle]

to clarify, extra yellow is just tap yellow before pressing Ult 2?

[gloomy moon]

pootis

[raw swift]

Outlier is located at the bottom left of your Phantom Pain Cage's screen.

[azure barn]

Just be in Ult PPC, it's beside the Shop

[azure barn]

Yes

Cancel it with Ult 2

[ripe tinsel]

Thx for the Explanation.

[ripe tinsel]

Idfc bout yo bich ahh

[zealous mantle]

thankssss

[normal sierra]

can lilith do faster than 10s rot at... lilith?

[raw swift]

Mhm....? I wonder what did i do wrong...?

[ripe tinsel]

Nah, nothing .

[azure barn]

S+ territory I think

[normal sierra]

there is no extra energy gain on rank ups thou

[azure barn]

That 2 stack Ult is as fast as she can go?

[normal sierra]

2 stack is 11s, 1 stack (if you very fast) is 10s
that should be it

[zealous mantle]

possible with Knight

[azure barn]

Damn

[normal sierra]

unless you can kill with ult1, but that only works on very squishy ants lul

[zealous mantle]

does doing 2x yellow > special red during Lilith Ult mode do more dmg?

[normal sierra]

if you kill at 10s, that's already 12s rota

you would need to kill at 7s to make 9s score

[azure barn]

At that point just use S+ Ish trust

[normal sierra]

ish can do 8s there indeed, but dunno if she has the dmg for hell kill
she is the fastest everywhere if she can kill with 1 ult rota

[terse grove]

hi guys, i was doing class reflection and 2 of my characters are dead. is there anyway to get them back?

[still moat]

now that u mention it

i need to molest lilith with lilith

[verbal cloak]

what's higher prio for a new player in this patch? Ishmael or nanaknight selector?

[pine slate]

Restart

[terse grove]

how

[stiff elm]

hm?

[normal sierra]

retreat if you in battle, then hit the "tally" button when you are in the cring reflect menu

[stiff elm]

which one do I pull

I have SSS stigmata, SS3 oblivion, SS0 alisa

[pine slate]

Tally ur score and play back from stage 1

[pure moon]

how do you complete this?? the boss kept recovering HP way faster than i can deal damage even with characters with 7000 BP x_x

[zealous mantle]

223 212 cant 1-shot Chaos Lilith with full stack Ult2? or im doin something wrong?

[pine slate]

Do the stage that deletes the heal buff

[terse grove]

alr thanks guys

[stiff elm]

how good is SSS luna

[placid lark]

What does this mean, exactly?

[zealous mantle]

Lilith needs 2 rotations for Chaos?

[normal sierra]

I don't think you need full stack to kill there
ss3 kills chaos with 1 stack ult, and that's a massive overkill there already

[maiden thicket]

kuro typo, its the same effect as all other amplifier class passive

[zealous mantle]

my Lilith is SS0

[maiden thicket]

but this time its 20% by default

[normal sierra]

ohh wait, you don't have sss bonkerina

[zealous mantle]

223 212 only

[ripe tinsel]

I'm losing Brain cell Chatting in genchat. I'll just stay here damn

[normal sierra]

that's fine, what you lack is sss , that's a big dmg loss

[ripe tinsel]

How many shard to SSS her from S?

[normal sierra]

wait, nevermind, the video I watched is with ss bonkerina only

[frozen creek]

3s scire in the 25

🐳

[frozen creek]

As with all games

[stiff elm]

time to cut into the reserve?

[ripe tinsel]

How did you stack that much tf

[normal sierra]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0iMdUdhDKno
try the chaos rota here and see if it kills or not
if not, try with 2 stack ult instead (y > r > y > r > y > ult)

[raw swift]

is this any good?

[normal sierra]

30 (SS) + 90 (SSS)

[near tiger]

I know this is diff but do you need wechat cn to play pgr cn

[vestal birch]

How do I change what mats I use for hypertuning memories? I'm using the crystals but I want to use the hypertune catalysts

[dim cedar]

I finally got Luna (the free fate pull 💙) do I need to use BT for her sig? Or is she good with the 4 star. I have Ish already.

[ripe tinsel]

Where do i get the last 20 shards? (Say i already bought Skull shards, Vouchers, and event shards)

[ripe tinsel]

I think you need BiliBili account and a cn Citizenship

[near tiger]

That free pull part is very unnecessary

[ripe tinsel]

But cn id are all over the internet

[dim cedar]

Sry was happy… and no one to share with…I started a week ago 😭

[near tiger]

Identity fraud 💔

[near tiger]

Same

[ripe tinsel]

Fake identity and addresses anyway

[normal sierra]

wait, you talk about lilith or bonkerina?
for lilith, you get the event shards (20), ppc shards (30), voucher shards (60)
and if you in a hurry to get sss, you get the extra 10 shards without discount

[near tiger]

I wanna play cn so badly but I'll just wait for it

[ripe tinsel]

Damn, so just have to wait for refresh ig

Just realised it's kurai

When did you get back

[normal sierra]

it's not that Kurai lul

[ripe tinsel]

Aww

[frozen basin]

can I use the blue card selector for the new next patch to save on pulls or does it not update?

[ripe tinsel]

So he still missing? Oh well

[calm panther]

man

[ripe tinsel]

It'll update, who are you looking to pull?

[frozen creek]

There are better value packs

[calm panther]

lilith's actually pretty strong who would've thought

[near tiger]

The wrong kurai

[frozen creek]

No way

[near tiger]

I ain't dalao. I'm bricked kurai

[raw swift]

i see, im tryna get the most out of my money, just started a month ago and theres so much to see in the shop

[still moat]

this unit so brick

[raw swift]

and i want to get ishmael and luna with their sig for nihil

[feral prairie]

when is selena patch again

[frozen creek]

Black card monthly pass A > cub bp > construct bp are the first things you should buy
And all of those twice

[zealous mantle]

hmmm looks like SS3 is a huge dps boost

[vale raft]

Current Roadmap (as of May 24th 2025)

[zealous mantle]

coz my DV boosted Ult 2 of SS0 Lilith does wayy less dmg than no DV Ult 2 of SS3

[raw swift]

buying them twice doesnt mean i get twice the rewards right? instead ill have the bp for the next patch?

[near tiger]

We getting S selector this selena patch right?

[barren plank]

Not really tbh

SSS is where the goods are at

Turns her ult2 into a complete nuke

[placid lark]

I mean, how is the buff triggered?

[stiff elm]

how long was this around?

[still moat]

where 13s kill hell lilith

[frozen creek]

For the bps you'd get twice the rewards
Foe the monthly pass A buying it from the monthly section will extend the duration if you buy it more than once, but you can buy it from monthly section and packs section once each so you get double the reward in the same month

[frozen basin]

Selena and Vera

[cunning bridge]

What is the cheapest way to get CW to 6k BP? I heard she is not good so i dont want to invest too much?

[frozen creek]

7k bp is free

[fierce raft]

what does "vegetable harvest building" in the spice and salt event mean?

[frozen creek]

Just resonate all memories put weapon max skills

[raw swift]

oh i thought it works like in genshin

[frozen creek]

Cw has highest BP scaling anyways not that bp ever matters

[slate gull]

genshin

[maiden thicket]

automatically on swap in

[frozen creek]

We're currently going through synchronised patches that's the only reason you can stack monthlies

[still moat]

o nvm 12s is possible

[cunning bridge]

How? Im new.
I can only get to 5k5 with S rank and max out her skill, weapon and memories

[glad hazel]

wwill i get to use my own characters past chapter 17?

[raw swift]

i see

[normal sierra]

why 13s? just go for 11s

[barren plank]

Gens are a garbage fan made concept that have no relevance to the meta or progression of the game since everyone has 5 billion definitions of what starts when and where; it's not really worth using as a form of classification for units

[still moat]

cannot

[feral prairie]

hypertune and resonance memories

[frozen creek]

Resonate her memories

[stoic niche]

should i use his sig as r2 for Ishmael sig?

[frozen creek]

Should be easy 6k

[slate gull]

b..b..b...b....b...but

[normal sierra]

no sss? or why not?

[frozen creek]

It's a good idea considering he's obsolete

[raw swift]

anything else besides monthly passes and bp that are worth it?

[limber drift]

can you actually unlock this?

[lusty minnow]

those 2 not exist

[stoic niche]

can his future lip make me regret it?

[frozen creek]

There's a 28rc pack that gives 1400 yellows and a 5rc pack that gives 290 i think? Buy those out
Also there's a feral bp in the event section for 68rc that's good value too

[still moat]

he is not getting any leap

[calm panther]

a new gen starts when the tank/amp buff number go higher shorely

[raw swift]

got it thanks man

[frozen creek]

Future what?

[stoic niche]

leap

[wintry parcel]

nothing

[worthy pivot]

between S Wanshi & S Alisa & SS0 Lilith, which one is priority to get shards by vouchers?

[wintry parcel]

generation titles already lost its meaning

[frozen creek]

GOOD joke

[cunning bridge]

Use those red chip? I thought those are hard to come by? i have to use 12 on her?

[frozen creek]

Most leaps are useless

[normal sierra]

from what I see, only the yellow orbs are boosted on ss3 that matters in the ppc rot
that shouldn't be too much of a difference, plus you have 2 extra amp reso on your carpi as well

[calm panther]

you mean SS wanshi SS alisa right?

[frozen creek]

Hyperreal if he does get one in whatever universe it will be useless

[gilded flint]

Would 3 mil phys hero wz be a good score for 2.12.12 110 111?

[calm panther]

and ss3 lilith

[worthy pivot]

hmm no, only base S

[calm panther]

you can get both for free from the dormitory

and SS lilith from ppc

[wintry parcel]

from all the new character skills kit, gen3 frame is getting more vague with each release having a new unique skilla

[frozen creek]

You don't need to use the red chips exclusively
You can just use the blue energy points from simulated material farming stage

[still moat]

thats lower than my ss0 r2 solo hanying score

so no

[wintry parcel]

rude

[frozen creek]

[normal sierra]

where is your dmg?

[gilded flint]

Does reso really make that much of a difference?

[frozen creek]

No sugarcoating here

[frozen creek]

General is good enough at that

[still moat]

no but the pilot is

[gilded flint]

[frozen creek]

[gilded flint]

Wz Run please

[calm panther]

and you buy wanshi and alisa from there

[lusty minnow]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GlnGSYCmLAM&t=118s

[calm panther]

and here for SS0 lilith

[frozen creek]

You can watch guides for a decent idea
To be the best you need to do your own working out

[gilded flint]

I can actually get close to that I have hope

[woven oracle]

Is 21 a better tank than teneb

[calm panther]

no

[woven oracle]

Is Lilith-A wata-Teneb a viable team for now

[frozen creek]

Replace a wata with any new s rank unit lol

A rank attackers are absolutely useless

[wintry parcel]

if you have stigmata with signature weapon, it should give you an advantage over solo hanying, you just need to learn what to do and not to do

[woven oracle]

Would ish do good

[wintry parcel]

unless you don't have stigmata cub too

results may vary

[stiff elm]

guys is it joever

[calm panther]

In that case you replace teneb

[frozen creek]

I wouldn't pick ish instead of watanabe because her class passive won't work

[calm panther]

but yes that's 100000% better

[woven oracle]

With

[frozen creek]

You need to replace teneb with ish in that case

[placid lark]

So, I swap to her, then swap to my attacker to get the buffs?

[lusty minnow]

how tf you promote into legs lmao

[calm panther]

the ishmael works is that if there's no tank or amplifier she becomes what's missing, if there's both an amp AND tank she does nothing lol

[still moat]

whatever i'll just take this, no guin is brick

[frozen creek]

If you dont have lamia there's no point in playing swap dark

[woven oracle]

Who would you recommend? I only got pyro and startrail as new units. Last one i got was back when stigamata released.

[still moat]

wtf 98% HP

[gilded flint]

I have sig wep, but no cub; I also have hopium again because wave tankiness change since 1 month

[woven oracle]

Oh okie

[calm panther]

I'd recommend lilith ishmael + any dark attacker

[woven oracle]

So A wata

[calm panther]

and you never swap to the dark attacker

[amber folio]

do the missions in Lilith banner still count your logins and reward you free pulls if the mission button is locked bc of claim limit?

[calm panther]

yeah

[woven oracle]

Damn

Alrighty thanks alot

[frozen creek]

Just use a dark support like rozen and slap somr healer memories on her instead of using astral BUT you won't be switching

Dark team is in a pretty bad spot lol

[maiden thicket]

no, literally just on any swap

the moment any unit takes the field they get the buff

[brittle stratus]

What should I use this thing on? Should I get alpha for the lulz?

[raw swift]

Hi....will the new ice amplifier Bambinata be free....?

[woven oracle]

Can i use 21 she's built

[calm panther]

NEW BAMBINATA FRAME

[placid lark]

I see

So it can be any swap, doesn't have to be anyone after her?

[woven oracle]

YO FR?

[calm panther]

no

I wish

[woven oracle]

Kamui when

[maiden thicket]

yes

[woven oracle]

Ph

So 21 won't work

[frozen creek]

If your 21 is sss rank replace teneb with her
You should still use rozen over astral
Both of them will purely be supporting lilith

[maiden thicket]

idr if the "initial" swap also counts, but like you almost always swap in immediately after start anyways

[frozen creek]

All swaps count

[woven oracle]

Wait I'm confused

[frozen creek]

The reason you instantly swap after starting is go trigger amp buff

[woven oracle]

Lilith-Ish-Teddy?

Or lilith-ish-wata

[maiden thicket]

yeah i meant, i didnt remember if the initial entrance unit would have the buff or not

[normal sierra]

not 100% hp bricc 🧱

[frozen creek]

Lilith + rozen/teddy + Ishmael should be the team

[placid lark]

Thank ye, kind user

[woven oracle]

Alrighty thanks a lot man

[lusty minnow]

teddy, u cant use wata you need luna to use off element

[frozen creek]

Liliths built in dark buff takes priority over both Teddy and rozen so they're only there to hold healer mems

[lusty minnow]

99%

[calm panther]

I'm pretty sure if you have both an amp and healer ishmael refuses to become tank

[frozen creek]

Shield reso doko

[still moat]

im already using it

[frozen creek]

[maiden thicket]

yes she will have no class

[frozen creek]

[calm panther]

yeah

[frozen creek]

Should've crit before you got hit

[calm panther]

so why would they recommend rozen/teddy over any dark attacker 😭 or even an empty lsot

[steady otter]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/emojis/1017938018235060344.gif

[lusty minnow]

holy you win 25%??????

[brittle stratus]

?

[lusty minnow]

give me some luck

[steady otter]

Almost SSS6 smh

[lusty minnow]

LMAO

[calm panther]

if you have both an amp and a healer, or 2 healers, or 2 amps, ish doesn't become a tank 😭

[woven oracle]

uhm

How about an amp and a tank

Or does it gotta be a dps

[calm panther]

ishmael doesn't have a role to fill so she doesn't become anything

[mint tiger]

wait we can get early S rank if we summon on 0-80/100 banner thing ? cause i saw on yt, they summon dante & vergil there instead of 0-60 banner pity.

[tight tangle]

Do I need ampliffier to hold Eins in Nihil team or not?

[frozen creek]

Obese

[wintry parcel]

Preferred

[wintry parcel]

They're stupid

Early can happen on 60 too

[still moat]

im done molesting lilith

[woven oracle]

So Ish-lilith-Wata would be the team?

[calm panther]

the chances of getting an early are higher, but the max pity is 100, it's bait

[steady otter]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/emojis/1017938018235060344.gif

[calm panther]

yes

[frozen creek]

I literally said
Lilith
Rozen/Teddy
Ish

[calm panther]

you can't

[frozen creek]

Ish becomes tank

[calm panther]

she doesn't

[frozen creek]

NO

[calm panther]

if there's 2 amps 2 healers or 1 amp and 1 healer she doesn't

[tight tangle]

Between 4 davinci 4 guin & 4 davinci 2 Eins 2 guin on amp, which is better on Nihil team?

[frozen creek]

Is this actually a thing?

[calm panther]

yes

[frozen creek]

Or do I gotta test

That's crazy then

[wintry parcel]

Eins help you better on later waves (20 above) with tankier waves more than 4 guin

4 guin buff has a really long cd as well, you get more buff downtime than the uptime

[calm panther]

if only it worked life would be a lot better

[waxen kindle]

Don't waste ur time people already proved it

If there are 2 amps or 2 tanks she just doesn't do shi

[tight tangle]

Okay so Eins is better I reckon?

[wintry parcel]

As long as you aren't playing on elite or leader, it should

[frozen creek]

Yeah ik

Idk why it's like that

I thought she only couldn't fill attacker

[wintry parcel]

With plasma team where pyro shred waves like butter even past w25, Lilith could use 4 Guinevere over 2 guin 2 eins

[waxen kindle]

My guess is that kuro hard wired her shi to check for attacker role as well

[frozen creek]

Most likely yeah

[calm panther]

it's like that most likely because we're in tank amp era rn, and dpses are lagging behind, and they didn't want a bunch of bis teams to be double amp ish

[frozen creek]

Didn't wanna make her too helpful

[woven oracle]

What number do y'all hold atk on nanami

[waxen kindle]

If (atker!=true)
Return fk_your_team_comp

[frozen creek]

Funny thing is I'm seeing a bunch of good light scores with ish instead of feral

[waxen kindle]

195 for max stacks

[woven oracle]

Damn is ish better than feral

[calm panther]

feral is technically better but only at same level of investment and most people's ish are more invested

[frozen creek]

No

[rapid field]

why feral for nanami?

[frozen creek]

Cause feral and nanami are both lightning

[fading elm]

ayo, ahaha... who do I pick? (maybe they so old that it does not really matter tho)

[frozen creek]

[calm panther]

the one thingthat makes feral edge the win

is being able to use eins

[waxen kindle]

Rose rigor

[frozen creek]

Doesn't matter
The 6* wep selector matters pick tonitrus from it

[wintry parcel]

If you just started this version, rigor is preferred

[calm panther]

but anyways best lighting team is luna lilith nanami TRUE (no, i mean it depends, for a lot of new players it will be)

[fading elm]

ok, thanks all

[waxen kindle]

Best to get rigor for phys tank and wait for selena imo

[vestal birch]

Why does Darwin have higher crit than Shakespeare even though all other stats are the same ??

[frozen creek]

Oh yeah that's actually a really good idea I forget its been ages since hanying patch

Is selena solo even possible

[woven oracle]

Tonitrus for who

[wintry parcel]

You wish those numbers actually means anything realistically

[frozen creek]

Alisa

[woven oracle]

Oh okay

[frozen creek]

If you don't have her sig already

[vestal birch]

Yea im just bp farming but I was curious

[woven oracle]

I picked rose's sig there 💔

[waxen kindle]

Beats me but I'm sure as hell ain't doing phys without shred lmao the float is already ass

[frozen creek]

[woven oracle]

I mean i don't have hanying so technically still useful

[waxen kindle]

Ye at least

[frozen creek]

Just use 3s dd hanying

[waxen kindle]

3s is crazy

[frozen creek]

Free with luck

[woven oracle]

I'll just wait till hanying is powercreeped so i can catch up with the meta 🥀

[frozen creek]

Thats like me waiting for scire to die

She hasn't died since I started playing

[woven oracle]

Isn't she gonna die soon

[verbal cloak]

praying for her to last as long as liv so that you can never catch up

[vestal birch]

Is sequence pact worth farming

[woven oracle]

She's up

[frozen creek]

And I went 1.5 years without a functional dark team

She's gonna die soon though yeah

[wintry parcel]

How do you even know that

[frozen creek]

Still this stupid character been ruining one my teams for ages

[woven oracle]

I didn't even get scire because they said it ain't worth it

[frozen creek]

Not worth it honestly

She needs good invest to be useful

[wintry parcel]

Damage increase

Really good increase

[verbal cloak]

she's gonna be ded soon

[woven oracle]

Yeah

[wintry parcel]

Always worth it

[normal sierra]

no u

[woven oracle]

My most outdated team is dark

[frozen creek]

I mean her base S dark shred is OK but you could just use ish with lamia and lilith

[raw swift]

what is this blue ticket thing?

[frozen creek]

Wep selector

[vestal birch]

Across all game modes i assume? Like border pact

[verbal cloak]

click it and read

its a weapon selector

[raw swift]

i read it and im still unsure

[frozen creek]

[woven oracle]

There's a s selector next patch right?

[wintry parcel]

Special ticket for a shop that list out every existing 6* weapon in the game

[raw swift]

oh fr?

[verbal cloak]

up to qu

[frozen creek]

Up to qu yes

[woven oracle]

Finna get epitaph

[frozen creek]

Yeah let's u pick any 6* weapon

[verbal cloak]

same

[wintry parcel]

The spender shop

It updates to the latest weapon too

[vestal birch]

Do it hes daddy

[woven oracle]

Is Ish better than empy

[raw swift]

even ishmaels?

[frozen creek]

Should do

[wintry parcel]

Even hers

[woven oracle]

OH I FORGOT EMPY GONNA BE DEAD SOON

[frozen creek]

I haven't used mine

[verbal cloak]

why get empy.. get verra

[wintry parcel]

Lilith weapon is in it too

[rapid field]

i have one question, who is healing for nanami in team ishmeal + nanami +yata?

[woven oracle]

I got her on her release man

[verbal cloak]

ishma

[verbal cloak]

bro is old, ancient even

[woven oracle]

I'm an og

[frozen creek]

It's kinda odd

Yata is useless

[verbal cloak]

I played til 1st anniv, came back for dmc

[woven oracle]

I quit on stigamata's banner and returned recently

[frozen creek]

Nanami needs to be with lightning supports because ish passive doesn't work if there's multiple healers/tanks

[rapid field]

in her skill, i don't see any healing

[frozen creek]

[verbal cloak]

she becomes an amplifier when there's no amplifier in the team, or a tank depending on whats missing

[frozen creek]

She will become amplifier in that team BUT yata is just a waste of a whole character slot lol

ALSO feral is free

[woven oracle]

What can ish fill again

[frozen creek]

Tank or amp

[fierce raft]

is SS daemonissa better than SS Scire in dark team ?

[frozen creek]

But there has to be the other 2 roles in the same team

[woven oracle]

Is a healer considered as a tank

[verbal cloak]

tank is preferred