#📨・meta-help
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ya bot is wrong, already notified ek about it
what are the most worth it SS rn?
Ok great
Oh thanks any idea who the selector goes up to 
there are several people in this chat better than me 
Is build suggestions ingame are useful? Im to lazy to search so im using ingame
alright 
no. they're ass
Up to qu shukra
I would use ish over feral right? I could sss feral but im gonna sss ish anyway so
Aite
Fr? So which site I should use
ish just needs to be higher invest than whoever she's replacing
use our bot 
use this channel and the bot in #📨・bot-info
Bot exist
I'm Boomer how to use it
Feral getting more buff from sig is accounted for with ishmael?
GR site can be used if you want to look up skill descriptions and stuff but they are no longer reliable for builds
u wanna know how much I score with my juiced up ice team?
233 112 111 invest and I scored only 3 mil 
/build frame
that's for both of them
they both get the extra 10% from sig
Ok great
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I never tried to learn the game and was super casual. I'm a bit lost on what to do. Rn doing events and the thunderbolt missions
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How cooked is alisa without 6* for phys
@carmine reef if nanaknight is solo, should i put 4dv 2 eins in feral or cw? or better to use on garnet than cw?
i don't think so but sorry if i forgot that quick. thanks for writing it out again - do you have any intuition if s0 r2 ish will beat r1 feral + r1 alisa? since my ss0 r1 nana needs DLT so opening up shred seems huge

232 115 110 with kale 5.2m
232 112 111 with ish 5.8m
yeah turns out I can't play wanshi at all after 1st rot 
Im tryna do this quest and i already have one done. Does it want me to get them all done?
Yo wtf im finally rich
honestly smaller incrase than i expected for 5* -> 6* r2. that's what, ~10+10+10+8%ish?
r2 on this ice do be rlly huge ngl
what are the best ss to get rn?
same 
feral should be holding healing mems since the other qte bot can hold the non-healing mems, so feral 4dv 4guin (-2guin if no harmo) other person 4dv 2eins 2 glo (-2glo if no harmo)
garnet good to hold 4heisen if your nanami is on 5* wep, but if nanami has sig harmo to hold her own 4heisen then use a second amp instead (or ish if ish is higher invest than other amps)
Gimme R2 plz
yes
wtf u have fishmael

For fire team my empy has no sig would I throw lingya on ishmael and use her instead? Not exactly qte bot since empy gets like 2s field time bridging between pyroath and epitaph
feral alisa should be better assuming they're all ss, shred is kinda low value this week cause they're so squishy, but you can try both if you have doubts
Do it again, i believe you can score way higher than that 
I want to R3 more DMG!!


dam did u know there's a cool wanshi rotation guide video out there

Seriously? I have to buy more memories i don’t need 😔
Very
mine ish is ss3 so i should put 4dv 2eins 2 gloria in ish, feral is 4dv 4guin for nanaknight team?
, i guess ill cope and wait for phys amp
bricking my account because shes hot
from setsulao?
basically 20% atk loss man :/
just spam 3 rot wanshee
this wz should be squishy enough for it
-8% shred, +18% atk, +35% ele dmg
Bruh r3 and no SSS weak af
Alisa feels kinda old so kinda feels like a waste if i pull for her 6* 😔
3 weekly bc spent 💔
my wanshi didnt kill 
idk i haven't seen his video but this guy named zexous made one for wanshi
same 
swipe more

im like a copy away idk if i want to sss tbh

not like wata epi where sss actually does something
Theres supposed to be a beginner weapon selector that gives you Tonitrus for free so you can give alisa harmo and reso lmfao
helppppits been hoursst😭
alright I must watch that video 
the empy field time actually matters more than you think, when i did 5* empy to r2 ish with DD/SAR i actually had exact same score, i switched to SAR/GS and then got score gain but it's still the smallest gain of the 3 teams that i slotted ish into
have u tried using a vpn?
dude i'm so exhausted i have to keep scrolling up and answering backlog pings for like the past 10 minutes
watapak, u got nitro!?

is hanying still meta?
There is??
Is ferals premium pass worth it or should i buy the bp
nope
Solacetune? Yes
should i ss epi or hyperreal
try vpn
wow, thats a surprise
I'm in asian server btw
ok so i should use ish for light and ice only?
it's been 3 months bro wdym 😹
why tho, shes new and replace rosetta which was old 
yeah it doesn't matter. connect to a vpn then try logging in.
Its on one of the beginner events as the final milestone reward
run her on fire if no sss0 empy
ss3 for amp mode ish shouldn't be doing anything important for any team except dark rn i think
also i told you this before i think but that team doesn't work, ish doesn't get a class if a tank and amp are both already present
oh I thought u gifted me that nitro 
i didnt mean it in a bad way, i thought she wasnt meta because she wasnt often talked about
I have sss 5* empy rn lol
How many weeks or days it would take to get100k comission point
Oh no when was this added? My accounts been 80+ since karenina banner so i mightve just not made the cut
ss0 r2 ish would be better
Oh lol yeah u wont get it then

My ish will be sss r2 prolly since so many USBs in feral bp
well i did eventually get a score increase with ish but the investment gap had to be higher since empy actually onfields
for ice and light it's probably a safe bet if ish is even a little higher invest, given that the eins loss doesn't seem to matter with how squishy this week is
ye i forgot bout her class, so use garnet instead for ish then.
well there u go
run ish
no I didn't 
Wait my ish is SSS tho wouldnt tht be better
turns out it was discord itself. trial nitro for idk how long 
lowkey i think ss empy still beats ss ish unless ish is at least 2 resos higher

miles better
also wut

So sss r2 ish clears sss r0 empy?
oh if ish sss and empy isn't then yea use ish lmao


Solacetune or epitaph SS
Both are, only difference is that empy has no sig
r2 clears r0
what vpn should I use, how to set up?

Ok so i just throw sss r2 ish into light fire and ice
im getting the same score for both so idk tbh 
I use 1.1.1.1, unseen online, tunnel bear, proton vpn
U didn't see that 
yeah but you have higher invest so your empy has less field time right
although idk if shutz has sss wata or not
but in ss fire team where empy has field time she's actually competitive still
which one's the best there?
i was running 22.32 as well
still 5.1m-ish for both
idk for ice though, since ayla sig have buffing too
Someone help
Can we use the orange tickets on dmc banner? Otherwise, imma use it for startrail
the ones I mentioned r very easy to setup.
1.1.1.1 and unseen online doesn't even need account. u just install and use them.
22.33 empy vs 22.32 actually
my only carry is in phys and lightning, maybe get another ele carry or do I finish up lightning comp with startrail?
thanks. Now I can whel more in PGR 
r2 sss0 empy is way better tho but r0 feels no diff
in my runs i was getting same score between 222 115 empy and 222 112 ish when i had ish on DD/SAR
i only saw score increase once i switched DD to GS
Ish has it too bro
??
and it was only 3.9 to 4.2
Idk. 1st try 1.1.1.1 its used by most ppl
empy kinda slick widdit
makes sense tbh
same reason why i didnt run eins this wz
Ok but now that I have sss pyroath and basically lock myself down to 1s1e1s rot everytime empy only has 2s fieldtime and cant even use her ult without stalling watank
Is it that big a damage loss swapping to ish to do 2x3p for lingya
since dd doesnt carry over to different waves
ish will be better the less field time empy gets ofc

then its worth to try 
Saw some people thinking Vergil will be broken cuz Pyroath and CW had to block Vergil's attack back to back to stop his 1 attack in PV
i have ss0 team so empy/ish still get like a good several seconds of field time
tysm 😭
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what unit should i chase in base banner
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so that dmg is adding up for me
hanying solactune
once u have logged in u can turn vpn off if u want 
also welcome 

hey everyone, whats the recommended build on her?
thanks
#📨・bot-info type /builld put her name in aka feral
Download PGR with vpn so I can't use my card how to solve that😭
he might be mid dps wise but atleast hes cool
is physical Selena after this patch
really wish he could atleast outdps balter
yes

good it's time for my bianca to rest 
same rip my bianca ss6 
SSS bianca 😭✌️
hope she dont have the newest coating rn or 
Imma just SS3 Selena 
ive just been so hopeless, ppl even telling me to reinstall the game, tysm tysm 😭
Does ish get field time if I was use her instead of feral?
nah, I got cw coating
same 🤝
why ss3 when u can sss like u always do 
B-but Vera 
huh???
I'm skipping Ishmael 😭
both
unequip memory n put it back
try unequip
re equip
how to make them happy again
WELL, DONT MIND IF I DO
By "patting" them
pat them 
@lusty minnow @quiet lily @worldly mural love you guys my brain was hurting for a good 10 mins
okay, just pay me 60 rc and we gucci

🤝
Is ishmael's dominator form just her fusing with her primal projection?
w scam
costed my account 9 weeks of progress but we are balling
any other way
some are not worth patting
man needs money 
welcome to brick 
brick city, population: 3
Yo how much difference does a 6 star weapon compared to 5 star make? I got nanami SS rank, 5 star weapon, the rest is all maxed out.. not getting more than 1.3m in war zone on laser alloy tho..
some sigs are skippable some are mandatory
pyroath needs sig while nanaknight is decent without hers
depends on char, 6* nanami just add dmg iirc
this patch we got babel right?
where do you summon for lilith
Better to go for sig weapon or get more shards for nanami?
not available yet, but shes free
next week she out
yeah
oh ok
nanaknight at ss3 is more than enough, save up for something else
can someone help me make a lucia pyro team?
yay
pyroath epi empy
i think the epi build is different when you have pyroath i dont remember
Pyroath, Nanami Startrail and Ishmael for now
don't have nanami weapon
don't have ishmael
is ishmael better than empy rn?
go pull ishmael
Does ishmael need her 6 star weapon? Or is she alright even with just the 5 star one
i want a team to do content for bc to pull her
empy is enough if you have her, you dont need nanami sig
She fills in the a role that u don't have in the team
guys which one is worth to R2
that guy dont have empy 
ouch
pyroath n wanshi
can he replace empy since empy is like a grandma atp
should I prioritize getting hanying or nanami, I have a well built cw and balter, cw is ss3 while balter is SSS
what the second reso
Lilith When?
who is empy?
he doesn't have empy 
which of crimson weave's leap should i +18? (for the mission thingy)
no not for him, i mean in general
which one? i use solo ishma (ignore the weapon)
afterglow
ight thanks
ahhh, it depends on Emphyrea's and Ishmael's investment
blue
lets say sss empy vs ss3 ish
thanks
if you do for wanshi do dlt n dd for him. pyroath is dlt n afterglow
Oh, then idk for that probably still Emphyrea
Is there a certain way I should turn my A ranks to S ranks? I feel like long back I was told there was a difference between using shards or dupes but I can't remember
ahh okay thanks
i feltl ike wanshi dlt is kinda lower priority
Whats feral's qte? I use nana feral and yata
when you get dupes they turn into shards, you evolve them using shards
its not like i am soloing him, my ice team is complete so he played with swap, so i just R1 dd on him
tru
Dupes and shards are the same tho
Qte build?
feral qte is heal in a nutshell
I meant mems
when using ishmael, do i put her as leader or luna obvi?
ish
Ah 4 DV 2 Guin
Which leap is best for tsubricki
y tho? isnt 20atk better orr?
Aight thx
second leap since darkflow is peepee
Thanks
Lilith when?
that for attacker only, you will swap between ish n luna, but ish still do more dmg than luna
Next week 
next week duh
really wish they didnt put darkflow in cw and just amped her lightning dmg
ohh oky
D-do you know the day? 
Check pins 
21th
This
if eins on either ish/luna? will they only shred void? even on same team or universal shred?
BRUH!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! need to waste hypetune on her WTH
May 21st
eins ish withoutluna void
moment luna is involved universal
you arleady have the coating you might aswell 😭
what to put my lucia is s5 /5-star weapon
thanks kirai-chan 
but i want to save mine hypertune mats 
should i ss3 lucia with target banner and should i also pull on thunderbolt banner?
They all use the same orbs maybe except blue
just put red
What is ish ppc build for off ele
you forfeit your recources to the brick
if you unlock the secret intel does it also unlock the locks on the top?
no, need to buy separately

is the battle pass worth it?
no, they're separate
You pulling for selena? What about Vera? If so then wtb dmc collab, you gonna use a free ticket on ss3?
yea, most valuable after monthly pass A
Also how many shards do you get when you get a duplicate ?
the brick demands food
thank you!
Yes, for most players
Fknis this
Where can I find lantern?
idc too much about the collab tbh
but yea im planning on pulling selena and vera
it was a limited time memory set
u cant get it anymore
Ohh.
who is worth the most to SS?
huh, this could work
every single relevant unit needs ss some need ss3
everyone with skulls
All the newer characters
can nanami do well with a 4-star weapon
in team with feral and cw?
not best dmg ik but can she do fine?
Yh well you can use it on an probably
5 star is free just get 5 star
what leap do i unlock for CW?
my skulls cant keep up i have like 3 characters at ss after playing since epitaph patch
where to get the free 5-star?
is there any resource where i can watch rotations of characters/teams at different investment levels or i just youtube it?
???
bro 5 star is free what is this question
go coop
i still have alot of pulls from story and events waiting so i was just asking but im fine with ss lucia tbh
if you dont use darkflow get leap 2
People not in voucher shop at the least
darkflow?
check your inventory you should have a lot of 5 star weap selectors or something
cw leap 1 and leap 3 is darkflow centric, it hurts lightning damage if you trigger it
just get leap 2 if you dont need darkflow yet
what is your guys's fire wz on ss0 invest in legend tier?
yeah but surely some are more important than others
dps first
i deadass cant push to wave 20 ts so tuff
Personally using it on selena, gonna skip and save, the withdraw after sync is gonna be brutal without bc
woah new pv for dmc collab https://youtu.be/HVYpX-XGUh0?si=HOPxMqvt9DBYnuuA and its funny how neo dynamite is gonna rerun in dmc collab along side vera new coating and empy's butterfly coating
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Between nanami, ish, Lilith, and Luna, who should I give dlt to first? I have only one usb
luna
no swordshield in any of them
wich one has the most benefit, my only SS are luna pyroath and qu
what to buy with wz points?
scrap them and then exchange for swordshield
You can dismantle 5 stars
how much scrap do i get for each 5-star?
150
i think you need to scrap 3 for one
Whats the best resonance for CW?
which achievement point is this referring to?
Those 5 star selectors are all cheeks
Does this count outlier point? I already exhausted cw before this mission popped up
which build is generally the best for feral? (i assume the healer/buffer one yea?)
one dps per element has the most benefit
try it
More value to just use them as reso imo
if you play like the average player then get 2 cot
???
yes
Reso for 5 stars 💔
ty
i read that after i scraped them...
pepePain
which achievement points?
Do you have a full build for advanced?
You were being told falsehoods
ikr 💔🥀
between leap cw with sig and cub and startrail with nothing who does more
i think imma pull for thunderbolt banner to SS3 pyroath

Is bianca stigmata leap worth it?
Scrapping 5 stars is good cause running 4 star weapons is vile
go to grayravens website
Why in God's name is there a 15 second thing 
which achievement pts?
It doesn’t 💔
nanami is main dps in feral/cw/nanami team right?
What'd you hoodlums do this time 
i mean nanaknight fits more teams so i cant really answer this
Which character should I choose
if u in intensive battle, it will count
Mods
oblivion
is Ishmael better amp for fire team if my empy is s0 5*
the other stages in the basic tc environment
replaced in both her teams soon so not really
whichever you need rn to fill he gaps on your team
Luna Oblivion
depend if your ishmael is ss0 and sig
star trail
yea she is
then yeah
Oblivion or nanami if you didn't get her
where is the rottt
help? why is not marked as completed?
oh, alright, ty
also you dont rots ishmael off element
Where?
is amp rot same as tank rot for Ishmael
shes pratically qte bot outside nihil team
i think you need to be the guide
this is just sad
get 1.8m ppc, then use cw in ib
oh kk
Ishamel is good?
Main DPS Set
Main DPS
High Difficulty, Pain Cage, Warzone, Clash Reflection, Norman
General DPS set for high rank Tsubricki
SSS0 rank or higher only
4x Diesel
2x Cottie
Top Slot : 6x Basic Atk
Bottom Slot: 6x Signature
Cottie
does it count in outlier?
good if you have oblivion
guess im waiting til next week
should I piortize Lucia Pyroth's weapon or Hanying's ST weapon?
nope
Am getting her from selector
pyroath sig with dlt >>>
How do I solo wanshi? I have Ayla but no shukra
guys where do the resources go and why did they got changed to construct shard? whatt am i missingg whaattt
get obilivion if you dont have her isntead
Btw, does hanying's weapon help her with ultima slash stack generation?
the new stage is the all in one recourse center, very efficient and convenient
The colors correct? This for ppc
covers every single resource youll ever need, just dump serum
is this worth anything if I don't have solacetune?
the simulated(?) one??
yes
no youll have selector next patch
selector upto who?
Can I clear content with this ancient team
shukra afaik
wait i dont think you can get hanying on the selector
yah exactly
Qu
rosetta in the big 25 💔 i feel you
do you think ii should sss cw with the qu selector or ss3 someone else, i alrdy have ss 3 hanying
How long does PPC AP refreshes?
the banner is permanent, so you can take your time with it
it doesnt until next week
Let's go, can't wait to get SSS Qu 
How's my team
I returned after a long time man
please help me decide who to get from that selector
you need alisa
Ah dang it, I already did PPC with CW 
stupid question but which is best to use/buy
same i still use rigor and alpha 💔🥀
the event currency
theyre all the same but use the middle one first
Pass me 90k gang 
tyy
but save some of the middle ones for weapon harmo
oh yeah i forgot about this
not reccomended
done
yeah use the new currency
Oh is there a difference between getting a character via pulling and using shards to get them? Is there a loss I incur?
i'll be using the event currency 👍
@slate meteor for a single harmo
i should probably do the same then i have no bc atm
wata and qu invest?
wait nevermind actually yes wait until you get them before you use the shards
ss harmo
Im done with everything except the last one cause no way in hell am i hypertuning cw
ss3 wata better imo, qu is huge too
s rank is 50 shards to unlock, its better to get the character and use the 50 to awaken @weary kestrel

qu dlt worth it?
well good bye harmony accelerator then 
ishmael being able to rot 3 is inda insane
??
3 ult rot
i dont understand ss 3 rot ishmael, she cant do the drop kick for me the 2nd time
im 4 rots 
forfeit your resources for the almighty brick queen
she can tho im on ss0 ish
How do I do this with Lucia?
So an S rank dupe is worth less than 50 I assume? This is the the thing with shards I was confusing that I was told long back
Is lucia cw still worth using weapon resonance on?
do i need to wait for the next cycle?
s rank dupe is 30 shards
By doing it
can redo 2 stage
Ahh got it, thanks
redo again
Or shall I use it on feral? To get some extra dmg boost?
how bruh what do you ddo after the 1st rot
even the starting levels that are quick?
fire invest?
I meant the rotation
ye
Having her is enough of a brick
definitely feral is worth the weap reso over cw

I have enough
How do I share in one screenshot?
she is not brick, she is whole house
why did i get this from a free pull
Cause you got lucky
Congrats you have a sig now
OME WHY EVERYONE SO LUCKY WITH THE FREE PULL
I DONT EVEN HAVE
kill this guys 
u can just type it, its ok i can read, i just learn how to 
Lilith is already in awakening tundra mode lol
MY ISHMAEL IS HIGH PITY, MY WEAP FOR ISHMAEL IS GUARANTTEED BECAUSE I LOST THE FIRST 6 STAR SIG
IDK MAYBE I COULD OF USED THAT FOR ISHMAELS SIG
save for oblivion since shes really good
LUNA OBLIVIAN
you will in the future so keep it
after first ult: ult -> yellow orb -> dodge twice -> 2 red orb -> dodge twice -> hold dodge (dropkick) -> second ult
me and a friend actually contemplated whether or not to actually pull on the Tsubaki thing. But I talked him out of it with the DMC Collab lmao
THESE LUCKY BASTARD FR
WOAH BRO LET ME GUESS YOU GOT TEDDY TOO?
DONT PULL TSUBAKI absolute brickfest
but yellow orb in on cooldown
YES WATAPAKK
FREE PULL AND FIRST PULL
Lucia ss with sig and dlt
Wanshi S0, 5 star weapon
Ish ss with sig
So like how are ppl doing this?
saving brick just to get other brick 
whaaat that rotation has worked for me failproof
Should I be unlocking yatta fulgor with shards or do is there a way to obtain her since I got a lot of shards
NAH, I'm saving for the Collab (playing since the end of the BLACK ROCK SHOOTER Collab)
I HAD TO SPEND 50 PULLS FOR THE DAMN SIG
can you send a video
Same
ah sheesh poverty, wait let me find refs
WAIT THATS ACTUALLY THE SAME PULLS WITH ME WTH
AYO???
relic of the past
Now kiss

😭😭 is it the wanshi? Wdym poverty
Wanshi Lucid Dreamer didn't destroy my hands. Those two will destroy my bloody arms entirely with the combos.

Wild.
give me a sec
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Z8xhFCKPfe0
better use bridget imo, ishmael can stay in the team
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R these units still good?
Omg I meant watanabe. Not wanshi . I’m dumb
is ss ishmael better than ss feral on lightning?
Can we get an F in the chat for Shorthalt?
just macro
ohh wtf 
u did 580k yet?
they are still lightning meta with nanaknight, noone will replace cw anytime soon
jokes on you, i'm into that shi
will the blue ticket selector update as we go thru each patch or does it just stay the current selection for S rank omniframes?
No. Idk how to.
do i need to care about uniframe
then can use that as refs, see if its overkill, ill find a new refs
I have like 5 6* Sig Weapon Reso item and have no weapon to reso
Should I double Reso Nanaknight or Pyroath Sig
What are these lies cw's replacement is coming sometime in the next few patches
feral still usable but cw is just brick
it resets every few patches, next one is unknown, but it will be carried over till it resets
Wait why can I upgrade my characters past my level?
i didnt see any previews so idk the last characters in grayravens are dante vergil
refer to the vid that i sent
Fk whel
This is just a guess, but she's pretty dated now anyway
hi p*nzu
buy all memory reso pick from voucher shop?
so its not a lie more of a dated take
Hi rai
are the stacks supposed to be prepped whenever u double dodge?
Basically
U fk omegawhel stop polluting server with rc
wait so does that mean no new omniframes will be added to the blue ticket selector?
what sets to use on feral and CW on nanami team?
This is ss3 ishmael btw

Ok
guys why does my nanaknight look weird is she bugged 💔
is cw worth investing? along with her recommended lineup?
as of now shes the meta lightning dps so yea you might aswell
meta if SSS
wasn't this supposed to reset in this patch?
who should i prioritize getting to ss first from the phantom pain shop?
otherwise no lmao
meta in general i dont think ss nanaknight outdps ss cw
Is Double Sig Reso worth it if I have like 3 6* Weapons I don't use anymore due to them belonging to outdated characters
Not to mention 2 6* Weapon Reso Card
oh yikes
Is CW worth investing in when you have Nanami at SSS ?
she do outdps wdym
i mean until a replacement comes cw is still in lightning anyway
There's no point in building cw and feral at this point right? Since I don't plan on taking them above s anyways and I believe ishamel can do the work of feral while I wouldn't really need cw to be there
does he know
even so its not worth it to swap sss below cw, youre off better soloing nanami who has better dps and zero downtime for dps
@worldly mural bruh
oh god i have mistaken
Which one?
Doesn't Vera as QTE bot of Nanaknight replace CW in PPC
blue or red
i have seen the dps comparison, i retract my statement
Okie
for solo nana you should still use feral with another r1 tank
bumping
@stark magnet hmm why so ?
so youre telling me this is the hyperreal epitaph situation all over again
what changes to cw at sss that will make her used as oppose to solo nanaknight
Nana does more dmg tho...
i thought ss nanaknight is outdpsing cw by a lot easily
Because shes still the lightning amp and gives buffs duh
yes i was mistaken it took me 2 minutes to watch a video

Hi! Do I need to lvl 18 all cw leap skills? Tia 🙂
no dont
@flat flower if I replace her with ishamel wouldn't she amp up nana though ? Isn't tht her whole point ?
ishmael really depends on her invest to be actually better than an amp, because she cant proc eins, and use another r1 tank for the domain des
cw is as big of a brick as alpha now
Is it better to get luna oblivion when i have ishmael, or should i still get qu since i have wanshi
thanks! Only which one do i max for the quest?
fym, cw is alpha 
dude rosetta is so bad shes almost as bad as rigor
oblivion
og one
Luna obli is the reason ish does anything in the first place in nihil
Is this okay ?
k whel
which leap skill should I unlock for the thunderbolt mission?
the og physical alpha is literally called alpha 💔😭

any1?
Its worse
At least hyperreal at ss0 rotated with wata,
Cw doesnt rotate with nanaknight unless its under specific conditions or sss0
luna is the main nihil ishmael is support, doesnt go the other way i think
where acceleration
it did
It its just that you probably didn't use it so you wasted the last one
bumping
acceleration=booster
same question >u< anyone can help pls?
@mighty dock mind asking what changes to CW at SSS to make her enter the rotation
so shes as bad as physical alpha now
press the first one, somehow it works
the first one
@stark magnet I don't plan on evolving feral beyond the base s
While ish is already ss
Should I still use feral with nana ?
And aside from tht who can I fill the third spot with the only r1 tank I have is hanying which I don't think would bring any benefit no ? Wanshi and epitaph are sig~less
just get leap 2
you get free feral so thats free SS on your feral
@zinc charm tht free is the only copy I have
She starts doing enough damage to where switching from nanami isnt a complete damage loss
idk chief , its still pending, maybe 100% it?
oh tbh sig is what feral need to make her a good support
bump
You also need an invested feral too
@zinc charm not getting her a sig for sure
swipe on that special pass
Well no CA is completely unusable
well i suggest not, use feral, and another r1 tank (i tested and got higher score than my r2 ish)
yes it literally says to complete it
enhance those memory duh
its a good deal for you free feral sig with 500 skull ppc
no, i got luna
Help me make two teams
luna sig more important than ishmael sig yes or no?
luna
my physical team rn is literally rigor ca and alisa 💔🥀😭
thought so, for rotation, ty
currently you can do ishmael luna and a healer, go get ayla from dorm
Still good on stylish content tho 
free feral sig
locked behind paywall
interesting definition of free
no one said free feral sig
Any unit is good for fun events we know
@weary dragon when was it said to be free lol
never said its free
no one said is free
@tender ice its uploading, check your dms in a minute
Is weave farel good or nah?
Bricked💔💔💔💔
reading comprehension problem?
these globlul player LMAO
bro... you ok?
Before this patch i mean
bump
Always has been....
"deal" 💔🥀
No one said her sig would be free
i got luna, not nanami there, mb
interact button doesnt work for commandant pov 🥲
ahhh mb i meant free feral and her sig on the pass with 500 ppc skul

Oh well then bam


i think the only word he saw was "free" 
but the 40 pitty wasnt supposed to be back?
yea maybe reading skills 
yeah my bad I don't see literally every single message
It was never coming back thats a one time thing
Hey so I got Alpha CW from the Thunderbolt event and already have her at SS. Where did the event copy go? I don't have any new shards or anything...
ohhh
is ishmael a must pull ?
yes
Btw how much did ish really need her sig
why 15s delay
is the feral pass worth it?
so the 1st time is 40, then it goes to 60 and resets every patch?
i bought it, if you can afford, I was told
its a wild concept but maybe scroll up first if you are unsure on what people said first 
No? The only time this banner ever came back was now
its in a high priority
Feral pass give extra wep USBs too.
ight, thanks
Good atleast i didn't waste 50 pulls
thing happens, we chill about it
10 more shred and damage buff is juicy for a cope
and you dont wanna spam dodge till dead with her for just 1 rotation
hmmm, got it
Yes, Love is required
I need to use CW in PPC? Why?!?!?! 
Ayla where? Also lucid dreamer is tank
ikr
I hate it lmao
omg majestic coating fr
fair
lmao 6 people jumping on me about reading comprehension "we chill about it" keep yourself safe
every new patch will add the last patch omniframe to the blue banner
kaleido
ayla kaleido
ib ppc counts too, throw her into the unused zone 
i mean you kinda set yourself for that one
Dont make me use CW! Michael!!! 
bump
wait so youre telling me nanaknight can hog the field with vera qte bot and feral and she outdpses cw a literal attacker as a tank?
the ishmael build from bot good or nah?
I'm in pain... Still waiting for her coat...
get lucid and kaleido there then boom, free ice team
The only ones I have awakened is pyro and nanaknight, I'm thinking soalcetune for my next one, am I correct in this decision?
maybe on my part too 
Yes. In this game dps is not decided by class
cause of the dmc collab thats coming i cant decide if if i should pull her
yes
what if cw as qte instead of vera
skipping unit for dmc is insane work
uptodate
Need help if your in my case will you get no 21 feral cub or cw cub tho cw cub is already free who should I get cw cub or feral cub? Or just save it?
Attackers as qte bots does barely anything
sucks\
dmc in global is probably in september you have time
skipping units in ths game isnt recommended
Where did you get that cub choice????
isnt she entering blue ticket banner?
could be top up reward
swipe
Ahh Good
not now, next patch yes
well thats the mindset of dmc players let them
bump
If you have one choice, which sig would you get? Pyroath or Parhelion
around 1k rc or sum i forgor
Forgot where I got it since I had two of those but I think in the last patch or just because I'm a new player?
if you have oblivion, you can skip ishmael till she gets into blue ticket banner
yeah but why waste your blue target on someone thats already rated up
different case if they asked on gameplay help no?
theres also lilith right?
wait what?
snowveil and dreamwing
i need norman reset NOW
i dont quite understand the lilith banner
yeah im just saying
lilith free and itll cost you like 3500 to ss i think
who should i prioritize getting to ss first out of these 3 and kaleido?
wait till she released
no just use voucher on lillith
Can ss0 Ishmael without sig work with Luna for void team. Talking about playing at hero+ level in warzone
shes going to be free
I already have dream wing
yyeah
pyroath
bump
oh? is that so? but 3500 for ss lililth with sig?
snowveil
Without sig
i think with vouchers+skulls+3500 you can sss lilith
Also wanshi should not be Ssd there. Only in voucher
pyroach, you dont wanna basic attack on her for rotating bro
pyroath first, then nanami, lucid dreamer can evolve with voucher
with enough mald you could retain non sweaty brackets and promote
Everyone can Sss with Vouchers they reset for a reason
yes, so you can drop kick the next rot
i mean sure but for efficient spending just use voucher
lilith and sig will be free forever, if you do pull on the limited time event banner you can ss for 3500 and get a coating
ah okay thanks for telling me
is this ss3 ish?
i see, i'll see how is my bc budget then before going for ishmael, she does need her sig and is she good at SS or SS3?
is lilith out yet?
next week
Why snowveil?
ss + dlt
is this ss0 or ss3?
for wanshi cause it make his ult deal more dmg
right
i know it says double dodge but i can only prep it if i tap dodge three times and im not sure if thats just input lag
From my memory ss3+
ah not for my ishmael then
hm
ss3
yes you need to pre dodge before it becomes the advanced dodge. tldr, the dodge just means the advanced dodge. to make it simple, after 2 reds, just spam dodge until she does the flick then ult
God helping without the others is a pain in the ass
I failed her 80% at hard pity and can't afford to pull another copy. So was thinking of going ss0 ish without sig + Luna ss0 with sig dlt and cub. What's the best third member and which class should I put for Ishmael
When is Lilith coming?
so just spam it until i see it preps
next week
next week, 21th
21st
Approximately 6 days or so
Funny ...
Dang..
so every single dodge is see is the advanced dodge
which just means ill need to add one more dodge that it actually means
where can we get this infographic from?
after 2 red pings, the dodge only needs 2 dodges to do the flick. After that ult. so just spam till flick then ult
How do you even get that wuwa tag. By just being in the server?
Dmc tourist when a new unit isn't vergil, dante, or alpha
is feral still usuable
@tender ice ive sent you a link kind of scuffed still
guys between empress ishmael rots which one is better?
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JeuhViOwbm0&t=1498s&ab_channel=藍星貓
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JoK2UpCgqpo&ab_channel=Empress
This video doesn't include of Dark, Slash and Ion (rotation), please look for other tutorials if you need.
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Basic rot
qte bot yes
Absolutely yes. Just in qte
you're overthinking this. just spam dodge after 2 red orbs, when ult is up press it
thx
Not feral or anything just straight wangshi? This are my members btw
is echo still meta?
amp dont need cub
I have no idea. The sheer lack of dalaos is showing 
yes
for a long time
There's always swipe but :
Oki
how to do leap skill on CW?
shes still good asf, maybe the best amp out of the gen2
@raw swift
i just wanted to make sure since every time i perform as written i doesn't line up with what i see in the vid/i dont stacks prepped for the kick
ill try again and thks
wow, can i know who are all the meta? i didnt know she was also meta
Ling ya? 
Never been in ib 
also how worth is ishmael cub?
im talking bout they sig cub
ill make it simple for you, whenever you see dodge in that sheet, just spam, except the dodge to hold dodge
Which memory set is good for Ishmael Parhelion to pair with Oblivion Luna?
I thought all amps do the same thing just buff diff element
wich reso for ish is amp?
rip skulls 💀
where's the 1080p setting 😭
some of them can proc buffs better
the thing for alisa is, she is meta in 3 teams
When compared to cubs like Selena's and pyro. Not very high. But still reasonably strong. Is what ive heard from a few of our older guys
glorious spear and axial ray
but you can also use domain deconstruction on amp ish if noone else has it on the team
Extra skulls*
Managed to SS pyroath and nanami last patch with 500 left (granted i did save up some skulls during wanshi's patch)
Worth for me to bricc my acc
^
K whale
thank you
I actually need help to understand this. I saw a few videos where you do a double dodge give Ishmael a instant finger snap, while if i do a double dodge nothing happens, i have to spam dodge after the first one and after a few seconds i have the finger snap. Why?

you need to do 2 red pings before the dodge spam
should i start farming CW frags? she's still base S. but i do have nanaknight no sig tho
i did that too
Don't even bother tbh
Better?
HOLY MOTHER OF SWIPE

what i meant by 2 dodge there is 2 advanced dodge. You need to dodge once before you activate the 1st advanced dodge. That's why technically you need to do dodge 3x. but to make it simple, just spam dodge
this could work, ishmael as amp, but bro that banana is suck
right
just wanted to be deliberate with what im clicking so that i can understand what actions trigger what
easier for me to learn rotations that way but ill take ur word for it
FIRST TIME I SEE SOMEONE SSS A CUB
guys how to get bc fast
Not the nanami you want tbh 
Banana?
nanami
i got Yata SSS+. do i just stick to that instead?
pull lucia pyroath or qu shukra? 
i saw but on youtube tutorials the finger snap is almost immediate but for me it takes a whole 3 seconds of dodge spam, why??
Dailies, weeklies, event missions
dont worry too much about it, animation cue and sound cue is more important once you know what's happening
swipe
spam faster
Pyroath, get qu next patch (selector)
I'm thinking I pull starlight or shukra
LMAO
its not that
Can't help it, luv Ishmael.
Waited for ever since she debut as an NPC back in CN. It's like a good 3-4 years of waiting
2x 3reds, after that it immediately skips into basic attack 4
2x red 3 ping skips the basic attack sequence
Should I get starlight?
cant blame you she is really majestic
its still ok to pulls for ishmael even tho i still dont have oblivion ryt
Wallet kun but
stratrait yea
Some npcs got me feeling something tbh
yep cheers
There's a lot that is still in NPC jail ngl
show me your reference
ned help plez
Dude
Im like 🧱 when i saw it

i think i DID login for 2 day since this event start
this is basically how bridget became playable
Mmm tummy 🤤
brick by brick
same, bugged smh
in the middle of stronghold but is too dificult past 13
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i want my playable vonnegut
Could work tbh
are we gettign s-rank bambinata soon?
okay thank u 
what are they telling me to do
Re equip something
unequip memory, equip again
yea that's basically what happens after you do 3 dodges (1 normal dodge, 2 advanced dodges) after 2 red pings
why its quicker for him??
2b literally explained it
did they not ?????? test the update before launch it?
Just you wait till DMC Collab gets in Global
I can guarantee some person is gonna say ,
'I bricc my acc didn't get Vergil or Dante copy or sig , I don't have enough pulls so and so '
that's slow af, what you on about
you need to ping 2 times red, and spam dodge
it takes me double the time of that for this wtf
Another brick for my great wall of china
i ping 2, x3 red (why would that matter tho?)

you need 6 ping to make your special dodge already on 3rd special dodge moves
thats how you can fast make the number purple for you to drop kick da boyz
are trials SS + sig?
but what indicator does pinging 2 red shows? when i ping red the number just increase, nothing else, why would that make the finger snap animation quicker?
They SSS Vergil or Dante then wonder how come they're not doing well in ppc etc.
cuz they just started and rlz they need teams later on
next week u should put lilith as amp but you can use your next most invested amplifier before that
if i can sell ca for an a rank i would
the icone changed on your first 3 red orb, ping 3 red again and do the dodge to get faster purple number
Is it better to pull Startrail to complete Crimson Weave's team or should I go for Pyroath and Epitaph and wait for Geiravor?
icon as in your red orb icon
startrail replaces crimson weave
Hey guys, any idea how i can contact customer support? I was a returning player and had the chance to re-do the 7-day tutorial missions again and couldn't claim the 2nd S Selector
which part of this icon?
just played the game, who do i choose in the 40 pull S rank one?
He would be a rly nice addition ngl
oblivion
because that's how you make the dodge only need 2 bars. If you dont use the 2 red pings, you need 5 dodges to make the flick
Really? I didn't know
what memories does feral use if with nanami and cw
yes she outdps cw
understood, but where i see that this requirement is satisfied here?
4davinci 2guin
omg we told you already its 6 ping of red orb first
no point in cw except darkflow ig
then cw has eins?
have you used you selector on blue standard banner? if not get oblivion
I'll go for Pyroath then
if u harmony maybe
4dies 2 cott but nanaknight outdps so it doesnt matter
if you only use 2, you did it right, if you use more than 2, you didnt do 2 red pings
the thing is that the bar is already full when i click the yellow orb, so when i ping 6 red orbs in total, nothing changes here
get her first ten pulls, now what?
that doesnt matter, the point is, if you only use 2 dodge charge, you're already on the right track
if you do it right per rotation, that bar will never go below 3
i swap
what in tarnation
but anyways its a pity it was not explained properly, not even visually
what do we do with resonance shards?
should i get her weapon? or do i pull for the pink haired one first?
you need to start listening to what he says lol
this is one zaza build if ive ever seen one
erm
are you a spender or f2p? and yes pull for ishmael
Is Unc worth SSing on a Luna team? I have his sig already
wtf
ishmael is out
Does ishmael work as temporary sub for empyrea until geiravor drops?
u already have the pink haired one (ishmael) right? if ure an f2p and a new player, i recommend u to save for next patch
so basically to have the quick snap, 6 blue orbs, 1 yellow and 6 more reds? just counting orbs
dont really need the weapon then, the banner stays forever, just pull them if you want them, otherwise no need
yes
alr thanks guys
how do we use this?
what? no. the quick snap is just 2 3 reds
btw can you recommend me a team?

it doesnt work if i dont use the yellow too
True, and I have her at SS. So Ish as a fire tank still gonna be better overall?
help
i need to see your whole roster, go to this https://huaxu.app/na/players, select your server, and find your account by id. it will show your entire roster
does ishmael even work if you dont have a team? been seeing ppl telling ppl to just pull her, i had the impression she needs a proper loadout of teams to see uses
should i spend my BC on ishmael’s wep or another banner?
the yellow only buffs and maximize the bar, the 2 red pings basically gives you 2 bars. yes ofc you need to do yellow ping for the flick.
gulp-
wdym a fire tank
if youre pairing her with luna then shes a void unit & should be used for void and general contents
Alright. Thanks. I was thinking using a stronger DPS as tank (sss wanshi) would be better, but this sounds good
shes a lot weaker without one
if you do not have Luna Oblivion, ishmael CANNOT DPS
However she can be the support of any team except physical
its only cw, feral 21, ishmael and oblivion
we go to shop>exchange shop>weapon usb exchange>then u can use it. u need 150 of it to buy 1 usb. u can resonate a 6 star signature weapon with weapon usb.
You still need 40 more to exchange it for wep USB.
wowww so i can get DLT?


