#📨・meta-help
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sss luna first
I regret stopping i played from start until wanshi
15% elemental shred
hell no
uhm i need help i just got back playing pgr again and i have no idea what team to use.
Use guin the eins is for harmony
This is too vague, what does ur account look like and what resources do you have at ur disposal
then why tf did I do healing bonus (2x guin)
UGH! Thanks for telling me about the Simulated Battlefield! I thought it was going to be hard to earn memories!
figured, thanks 💖 also wanted to ask who i shld focus on sss from vouchers first if theres a priority
I thought u had harmony on ur CW?
So i go Luna here right ?
When is the returnee event popping up for the free BC?
This another main story shig?
I dont have good lighting s rank but i have nihil and ice i think im gonna do cw
Wanshi > Lilith (tho if u want you could also SS3 lilith and wait to see what kuro releases later)
Is cw so strong?
i do yes
1 for amp build and for tank for tank u use gloria on guin
If i have my Lucid Dreamer at Triple S and Parhelion at Double S, should I stick with Wanshi for my Void/Nihil Team Tank or switch to Parhelion?
no
yeah
Put eins for harmo and keep guin on CW
Uhm
Why sorry 😨
Guin on cw is crazy 
where is the bot that show priority ss3
wtf?
Alr thx
/ss3 in #📨・bot-info
That came out wrong
Put eins on CW harmo and keep guin for cw
Disco one?
Feral, and cw will be your used characters for now. Use s rank selector to get luna, pull ishmeal with bc and use ticket selector to get nana knight
the one discount one
alright ty bro 
also the selector banner in basic banner, will they really add ishmael there? 
wait cw build or ismail build?
oh! xD right right! LOL
but I already have cottie as harmo, i was talking about feral
So most characters unlock their full rotation at SS rank, everything above SS is kinda "just" damage bonuses, correct ?
OH PGR REMINDED ME OF P5R
what should i prioritize? luna's weapon or ishmael's weapon?
Some characters have different rotations at higher ranks.
Not always
u can double it for pure supp 4 dav 4 guin

sorry whats pure supp
is this worth
for sub u can using 2 cottie
the first S rank selector? i used it on liv (long time ago.)
What i meant is, there is a huge difference between S and SS, while not that much between SS and SSS as far as rotations go.
For example, Luna Pyro is terrible to play at S rank , while she feels decent at SS
on feral?
qte bot
Yes
hmmm
no, the new one in cw and ferals acquisition tab.
Ok serious questions, who here are knowledgeable in pgr? I can't have only Umbran answering like 5 people at once
rexlent

but listen, if i do element shred, it will be for feral or for the team
a bit
Einsteina*
qte can shred too
Can U tag the ones that are good? And wanna be helpers
so shouldn't i have shred rather than healing on feral for max cw damage
are we about to get another wave of helpers? 
yeah, and u have nanami?
Go apply
crazy answers 🗣️🗣️🗣️🔥🔥🔥
i do yes
wtf hi shuen
adv gatekeeper lao

very much if you dont have any of the previous chracters. just a passive place to invest ur bc in
Zhahahdhakvdkaba
Ig im blue now 
then why did people gave me a green light for 2x guin? wtf
Whaduhell 
REXLENET BEING KNOWLEDGEABLE LMFAOOOO
only if they allow me post ayla lewds

Hello
why would I want tons of healing on a cw
I think you should re-read what 2p guin does
it gives healing no?
Oh hi shuen 

because who cares about cw and heals
the main point is buff
Guin: buff upon healing
Eins: shred upon dmg via qte/3ping
U can choose what u want

it gives 5% elem buff
then nanami will be the main dps because her dps is higher now than cw ss, and for buff on feral and cw well just put debuff 2 ein maybe(?)
random question, but whats higher value between epitaph and S hanying (i have a solid DPS amp for both teams, but am missing both tanks)
deciding if i want selector and the other im getting off blue check eventually
when is next adv ppc video
Wow I am so honored
Ask ew
There's a free selector next patch that goes up to shukra you can get epitaph from
@visual topaz when is next adv ppc
Any recommendations for Pyroath teams?
Who makes these "reccomended" teams 
Between those two, Haying by far
You can get Epitpah next patch via the Selena Piano event selector
im guessing both are adequate enough
kuro
got it thanks
Like... I've seen some crud but this is outrageous
saves me the decision lol
Justice for Nanami Kuro
i fail to understand, my cw is 7000 bp and my nanami is 6300 bp
she isn't giving any kind of comparable damage compared to my cw
Ayooo??? Oh nahh I see what you mean. Back them I thought these recommendations were cookin
You make lightning team recommand and you purge lovely Nanami there ..... Oh kuro
oh i see, thank you. (sorry for the late reply though).
But wait, Ishmael can solo right?
how u nanami 6300 lol what build u use?
What your nanami build?
its not fully built but lemme show
Solo for ?
even i done build on s rank 6800
they probably had a "new player f2p friendly" team in mind as those two are free and kuro thinks new players should pull parphelion for her utility
but yeah thats bad
BP is an entirely irrelevant metric
If someones new they have not 1 but 2 methods of getting nanami, that team is horrible no matter what
this one?
Seems like a build issue, I know mine is 6400 due to memory not hypertuned with the right buffs
yeah
PPC?
look i agree but that was the idea i would assume
She's not doing damage cause she's base S
true true, they wanna sell yellow pulls after all.
no harmony i see and still no hypertune
im cooked right?
He's HTed it
He has no SS or weapon is the problem
hypertune done just no harmony
Oooh you need to do your memory slot challenges
oh just 10 pulls?
is this counting the total in the patch?
Upgrade her skill, s 5* full hypertuned should be 6.5k bp
SS CW S startrail that's 
its done, i dont have characters that are fully awakened
nah, just passive pull on it when you can spare some bc. if you restarted back in jan, you would have been in a much better place ngl
And his memory slots aren't orange, not all of them are
yeah no weapon is the problem
No resources section?
It bug if u already done that before update
Oh wait you are right
Resources? whats that?
Replaced by Simulated battle
No it's both wrong and bugged
@lean plinth you havent done sequence pact yet either
Ohh okay

just few days ago when i asked whether to get oblivion weapon or nanami weapon, people said that nanami will work fine without her signature
yeah. you get pretty much everything from there now
2 fresh out of the oven helpers
let's see who's next
dude i dont have awakened characters
oh this is a permanent banner?
Oblivion needs it more. nanmi is still viable without her wep
Is cloud island supposed to be super tough or something

Yeah, this is a 1 time perm banner (im pretty sure)
Adv
what skill
u need pull the weapon my friend for keep up the meta but well using base on cw as main dps not really
Yeah, I just beat it myself tbf
i should grind BC for ishmael first.
every characer is ass without their weapon, the question is which is less ass
well I don't see it
I can finish one part but I can't do the rest despite having 6K BP teammates
this is depressing
Did u already maxed her skills?
I'm not sure what I'm doing wrong but my damage output is abysmal
41/60 already
You don have any fully HTed characters otehr than nanaknight?
Yeah. ishmael first
yes...
How are your buffs lookin? On your teams. They help as alot as well
whats hted
get her pulled, then pull on the other banner
Hypertune
Thats weird
Like Amp buffs? Or the allocated power?
Look his units he is very new
I haven't hypertuned most of my characters yet but I didn't feel like I needed to
oblivion and cw are
those are fully
my nanami isn't 6500 bp so I can't fully awaken
Reso her weapon
only ask before hyper. the matts arnt easy to come by
Only one I HT'd is cw from a year ago lol
this nanami right?
on a damn 5*?
well yeah she can work but u need ss her so her damage not too down but well u should build 2 ein instead for that nanami much better
Yes witth otehr 5stars
Top right corner, might be the Amp buffs yes
it doesnt cost much tbh
Get oblivion from here. Use the selector for nana
Hold on
Will do. I will need build help soon for sure so I'll post my roster soon
well lads
just on my first attempts, i have seen:
+600k in lightning wz switching from nanami solo with r0 alisa/r0 feral, to r2 ish and cw
+400k in ice wz switching from 5* kale to r2 ish
what selector?
For new player kinda
aight I got it, Thank you
i am cringing .... reso on a 5*
yeah keep up on pgr meta so u can grinding on event and pgr chanllenge is hard
and i did not see an improvement switching fire out from 5* empy to r2 ish, but that's cause empy actually gets some field time in that team
atp il keep chasing meta

i build a new character, and then it gets replaced
There's not much else you can do
It's an atk boost anyways so no reason not to if you have the means
just got oblivion, now someone is saying that she is gonna be sub dps now since ishmael
She is
Well you started off by building a character that was already outdated
But she’s required for ish to work
She is
But on the flip side Ishmael literally does not function without Oblivion
i left pgr for a good 2 yrs before coming back, its been a month since I'm back
yeah for global every month we change charater but later after we keep up well every update will 2 months to 3 months
Her buffs dont get converted without annihilator class
Also the fact we became blue after u asked for my divine knowledge was perfect timing 
one more question, is alisa good right now? haha i didnt get her on event.
anyone else gambling for lunas coating tmmrw?
Lmao real
If they make a third void unit then maybe she won’t be required but I dunno what unique gimmick class the third unit will be
i still like cw for her moveset, i like the character itself that's why I invested on her
It's fine since he doesn't have DLT on Nanami (or weapon to begin with)
sigh
Nanaknight needs DLT right
on who, cw?
Dw bout pulling her, you can do dorm commissions and farm points. with those points you can get her.
also yes, she's the best physical amp rn
Especially solo
I was referencing these buffs.
yea im getting her shards from dorm shop.
Not that important in the end just pick whatever sounds good for that team
Oh I have them but I might be using bad ones. I'm well below your BP though
who is the physical dps? stigmata?
Soalcetune currently
your piority should be Washi first, then either alisa or ayla
btw for that heisen just change it to ein much better for shred until u get her 6*
Ah ok, that's good to know. And yeah my bp is somewhat higher than when I last tried to do this level
It's actually solace (the new phy tank) since stigma doesnt do as much dm
BP is an irrelevant metric
Also in Norman you can use battery to boost ur unit atk anwyays
Would it be better to use cw's weapon to resonate other weapons? Like, pyroath or shukra
Yes
which chac
Assuming u have DLT on Nanaknight you can safely get rid of CW's weapon @tough wigeon
nanami
btw I don't get why people are hating on cw so much man :(
My nanaknight is coping on 5* weap
should i wait until i get the first week of login rewards?
Yeah. The allocated green shards went to my weak teams only. So I struggled alot when using dark teams in one of the fights.
id rather wait till I get the 6 star
Oh then keep it for the time being
aight thanks again
so who is the BIS 3rd teammate for Ishmael+Luna team? Preferably one that can be in the refreshed check
Can't wait for Lilith next week. Dark team can finally shine again
18278264
asia pacific
Nanaknight solos her. but still a cool character.
-# alpha new frame when!? she needs it since vergil is coming out
Cool, thank you
well is up to u just good luck on saving
Same here. She's strong, but damn she could be stronger
lillith, or any invested amp
Lilith if you have SS0 invest
She's going to carry darkflow 
Yeah anything higher isn't good for Ishmael, unless of course your Ishmael is cookin
Sorry im probably like the few hundred ppl asking about dmc teams but can i ask if theres anyone besides hanying that i need from the blue ticket banner?
Alr pulled nanami no idea what to select next
still she's replaced 
its sad when people hate on a good character, atleast the character they used to love and now they hate just because of damage reasons
SSS Lilith can be used with SS3 Ishmael
Any lower lilith rank tho and you should just use kaleido
Are these teams okay?
chasing meta is a** at this point
Alpha was always annoying cause of how much tourist people and casuals glazed
The whole reason we are getting a DMC collab came from obsessive and constant memes of "oh alpha is vergil's daughter"
hanying pyrhoth and nanami that for now
him? which tier i evolve him? SS or SSS?
What do I use for the third skill in the CUB? after elem dmg and the core passive. Got one to SS
Damn, I'm severely lacking in the pet department. But yes
Nanami is dantes tank
Solace is vergils tank
and you have both of them. (im assuming by ur message)
For blue banner, luna has more piority since shes annhilator and void. after luna, its solace since shes phy tank. then im guessing prob pyro
not that Wanshi! the Wanshi from Dorms, Lucid Dreamer
well just got ish
im fortunate because I didn't hear any glaze ever (because i wasn't in any of the servers nor I watched yt for pgr)
and i don't think hype means a character is bad
I should try and pull for pyroath first then?
not that one, wrong wanshi, mb.
this vr from dorm shop
Yeah i do, and got it thanks
the cooler Wanshi
Is it a nice choice to scrap cw sig for Ishmael sig
Hype is fine
People did not stop ever talking about her is the problem
sorry, hahaha im confused rn. Thanks again
What do I level now?
id say no need. unless u dont have usbs
The hype for cw was Valid, Until nanami showed up, then it was like. " there's a bigger fish in the sea"
What rank is that cub
SS
ishmael cub isnt that good right?
Oo how so
Nothing unless ur cub is above s
The extra dmage bonus passive
we need to scrap 3 weapons for one weapon tho right?
Its huge for her
Yes
Her cub is very good
she fire meta now so yeah max ss3 for her, unless u dont have her she priority to pull
Basically a perm 40% atk up
Permanent 40% atk boost + there is no A-rank void cub so its esepcially improtant
not worth it imo it's so hard to get useless 6 stars
like this right?
ok i have 16k BC left
U got usb? id say using those are a better option. but then again, cw sorta is mid now so it should be fine. ask others
Oh...
and 750 tickets i think i can pull the cub
just my opinion
I reckon u hold on ur bc then
It doesn't but she's also a fairly old unit at this point and this channel is very meta focused so the "hate" she's getting is really just helpers trying to make new players not brick themselves on her
wait till the end of patch?
U might miss someone otherwise
Dont scrap s rank weps
Yeah I want the shards from scrapping to exchange for Ishmael sig then use USBs for resonance
No the middle one
Closer to it yea, its probably safer then
Extra damage bopnus increases by 1% one
i dont pull willy nilly and always get enough for character and weapon
how does a usb look/where can we obtain
we cant scrap 6* weapom now
Dont scrap, its not worth scrappign s rank weps
Whar
my friend told me to so did one
Smart 
Memory os weapon USB
Okay
should i buy alisa:echo shards or bianca:stigmata from the voucher shop i want to ss3
Ur friend has no clue what he's saying
Scrapping 6stars is bad where they can contribute much more by being used as resos
and you can get them by trading 6★ Weapon Resonance Shard for the actual usb in shop, OR by challenges and missions. really dpeneds
Wanshi lucid dreamer or Lilith daemonissa
makes sense, im not exactly a new player, just left the game thats all
if resonance yes if shrap to get other weapon no
isn't this for reso?
My acc is so bricked I need to get Ishmael sig
Yes weapon resonance
i see
While saving for next patch
yeah, the usb is literally the resonce without having to spend another s rank wep
also for the blue ticket selector should i wait next patch or get luna oblivion?
Ishmael sig or Luna sig though
i'm not getting those two cuz i'm building a physical ultima slash team
next patch to get another copy of ishmael
Buddy, both are free
Ishmael by far
i need to get pyroath, ishmael, and 3 6 star weapons😭
watch either of these characters get replaced by something else literally next patch
s rank weapon cant be scrap now so yeah not worth it
Tyty I'm aiming good then
so get luna oblivion now or wait for another copy of ishmael?
i mean who should i ss3 first
Dw bout that, you got like a year for that to happen
aight should i SS him?
If i have my Lucid Dreamer at Triple S and Parhelion at Double S, should I stick with Wanshi as my Void/Nihil Team Tank or switch to Parhelion?
a year is not too far
Who do you intend to SS3 and how
How are you getting what
and what invest are they
the blue ticket banner
yeah. try getting him to SSS (you can trade vouchers for his shards). hes said to have broken shred at sss from what iv heard. (need to be fact checked)
i do want to ss3 alisa echo but i invested on bianca:stigmata cuz i have her sig weapon
it just reset its S rank selector, and well both ishmael and luna have their signature
Which one do I pick
WHat orb on infinitas parhelion
and luna is SS, ishamel is S because i literally just got her
in the end, every character will get replaced
why u do this
for who?
just wait until dante he will change her meta
Crimsoned qeave
@barren plank but ishmael will be SS soon
DLT
Dont do it. shes not worth it
Just SS them both thru PPC and get another character with that
sure ill SSS it. thanks for the help
my luna is SS
SS3 Echo is useless
with PPC
I got another weapon of her spare
whats the minimum rank for echo to be viable?
SS Ish thru ppc too then and just save the selector for someone esle
dont just go for luna lucia or nanami
SS is more than enough
im tired boss
so luna oblivion isnt worth SS3?
No
No her SS3 is mediocre at best
Which packs on the shop are worth? Is feral one good?
oh so SS is enough
Feral BP, regular BP, monthly
save it. dont resonate her wep (unless you truely like the chracter and dont mind hurting ur account)
feral one is pretty good value depending on what you need
alr thanks
what do i use on epiptah memory set wise?
Nathan yo
in terms of just the weapon resos its good enough for me
I have Luna: Oblivion, Nanami: Startrail and Ishmael - is this good?
hii
Do you have his signature weapon
only 5 star
Tyy. Also what should i get from blue banner if i have luna?
4Alphonse 2 Cottie
does ss3 ishamel act the same as a ss3 amp/tank of another class
I'm pretty sure you use an amplifier with luna and ish
What does Ishmael SS do tho
Solacetune if you don't have her
yeah, you got a void team with that. all are good chracters, but ur gonna be having a BAD TIME with other elements if you dont invest in other elemental teams side form lightning
is pyroath SS3 worth it then?
would ss3 ish beat an ss ayla in ice team for example
top piority
That actually works as a lightning team
Should I SS wata or ish first? I have over 500 skulls, can only do one character now
Nanami is basically the main DPS for lightning team so absolutely don't use that wild zaza by whoever runs the reccomended teams put up.
does since hes got nana. i forgot to mention that
is there a reason why Luna Oblivions Inver Shards are the only ones that cost 20 while the rest cost 10? in the PPC shop
Where do I get more of ther BLue Card??
ok thanks
good things same with ss3
Ishmael first
Do I get to choose any 6 star if I get 10 pulls
Her ss3 is very good but idk what your roster looks like to give you the right answer
Amps only get heal/team bonuses at SSS
Ish was also specifically tailored to be an alternative to missing characters and not a replacement when at equal investment anyways
No she wouldn't outperform Kaleido at that rank
but dont brick yourself pulling her to ss3
I spammed Ishmael ult 3 times 💀
before nanaknight
its with the blue ticket banner
and i have like 35k of those
ah ok ty
@barren plank does double qte matter if the character with double qte doesn't have eins? like ish for example when i used 4 guin and sam
you got all previous chracters?
event and the weekly monopoly dice
Why is solace ss3 so low prio if it’s the only way to even do ultima slash on her
yep
Wait so it's a ten pull? For a selector?
Up to Nanami, but it's 15 K BC in total
then go ahead, unless u want ss3 solace for vergil
Ah I see
Guys for solo nanami what mems are on cw and feral? I was running dv guin feral (has harmo) and 2pc eins on cw idk what else to put
because until vergil ts bad
Yes
That banner costs 15K BC max, so if ur F2P then just spend like 3K per patch and u will eventually get it in the future
im up to date on characters
After Vergil is it number 1
and only need like 40 pulls for pity
Solo nanami needs DLT
and if u have DLT u dont use CW unelss she is SSS
How do i get the assembled moonlight achievement on 30-14
(Chapter 30)
What do i do
What S rank character should I get in the base banner?
Read pins
Ss3 Pyro is fine then
kk, go ahead, unless u want solace for vergil
Shorthalt is so hard I can't even replicate other Shorthalt rot

well ignition/combustion/burn became the best but post nerfs ion is back to top
What's better for my lightning team
Startrail oblivion parhelion
Startrail oblivion decryptor

oh you bring up a good point
is that permanent?
Not really ig
but i dont know if vergil will be a good alternative for selena pianissimo
😭
How do i get the assembled moonlight achievement on 30-14
(Chapter 30)
no, its single pulls but ramps up cost with more pulls. (or there might be a 10 pull option)
Yes you can build up torwards it
Ikik I'm asking what memories do I put on cw and feral in that case 
well im 7 pulls away
He's not used for phys he's used for ts
i see 1 pull per patch then XD
CW is not used below sss
Try using any other Lightning tank or any tank with a weapon resonance (4 Da Vinci 2 Gloria)
Meanwhile feral: 4 Guinevere 2 Einsteina
I plan to whale on Vergil so I was going to get ss3 solace. Do we have any other selectors next patch
so in what way does SS3 hanying helps?
My only other lightning tank is chrome arclight..
basically without her SS3 true slash is softlocked (easiest way to explain it)
nah for me i just use vera as shreed for me
Actually can u send ur Huaxu cause Feral may not even be the best person to run in ur case, every account is subjective in who their Nana's teammates are
yeah, next patch s rank selector ticket but thats only till Qu: Shukra
so no solacetune
No
Indeed. No solace since she came after
damn what a predicament
So use Alpha 4 DV 2 Einsteina
Feral 4 Guinevere 2 Samantha
honestly, getting ss3 solace aint too bad since she's up there on the piority list
- Lucia: Pyroath
- Selena: Pianissimo
- Ishmael: Parhelion
- Nanami: Startrail
- Hanying: Solacetune
- Vera: Geivaror
I think I might reach 60K messagaes today, holy sht I have no life
Well, yes Vera SSS > Nanami SS0 in terms of shred
but lucia is on the top
Feral has harmo what do i put on that then 💔
and her gameplay is super fun to boot
For a Physical team where Echo already has Dead Line Timing, what's the next weapon resonance priority?
For Echo or the whole team
Yeah. It's your choice on what u want to do.
Whole team
also what resonance i should give parhelion weapon?
just use bianca leep for that wz stage
Get DLT and DD for Soalcetune
Can u check mine im on phone 
Then 2 Guin harmo 2 Guin memos and 4 Samantha or 2 Samantha 2 Gloria
Understood, ty
40.33K
yeah working on her leap rn
Do you not life?
Dang im not catching up
but which resonance i should give ishmael weapon?
EZRA HAS 360K HOLY
DLT?
is there a reason why Luna Oblivions Inver Shards are the only ones that cost 20 while the rest cost 10 in the PPC shop?
DLT > DD
He yapps a whole lot
cuz you already brough all the ones that were discounted to 10
they all cost 20 after the first 10
The first 10 are cheaper than the last 20
Also mod priviledge on no CD, so more seperate messages lmao
make it 100k and u will get silver button
also which build i should go for parhelion?
Happy birthday, birthday twin 
ah ok, didnt know that. Thanks
main build id assume
For void dps or for filling in a team role?
thank you! and happy birthday to you too 
@buoyant hornet we gotta talk
still havent decided
if im running pyroath, liv, and epitaph how should i position them?
looking up on gray ravens
Random tier list I found said Crimson Abyss was the best choice here- that true?
have sub-DPS, amplifier and tank builds
if have resouce build both
you using gray ravens as a base?
Rigor is best
Laurel could also work
epitaph on red, pyro on blue and live on yellow I think? ngl I dont understand/know the positioning system too well
yeah always for me
Gray ravens is old and outadted and full of misinfo, dont use it
I see. Random tier lists shouldn't be trusted ig
honestly i wish the game had presets
liv on red is the only part that matters
Switch dead Line timing for axial ray, Alisa almost doesn't complete her rotations in a single team rotation
Add DLT and Domain Desconstruction to Hanying
And if you can, add Glorious Afterglow to Alisa
If Alisa is not SSS, and Bianca has no weapon resonances, you might be better off using Solo Hanying for Warzone
just for ppc i try find some on youtobe or ask in here
isnt epitaph supposed to be mostly pinging red? so wouldnt you want him on anything but red so it can proc other people's qtes
so for PPC and warzone what memories i should get?
correct
Acaxi, Windbell or Moon Glaive on Youtube
half of it good tho even same as in bot channel
which is why liv on red
I see, then I def mixed it up. mb
jesus christ this is a 10s cd? i'm outta here
I see, I see, ty
Real
agreed, what the hell is this cd
what resonance should i target for?
There's a lot of unupdated stuff tho
Immunity 
jerm gimme helper again
just using the one i can keep up with the rotation
I put in a word for u
^
only for CW and under it after that no they always update it

What Reso weapon on ishamel
Oi
DLT > DD for void dps
When ish is filling in a role it becomes more complicated
ish can use a lot of different resos depending on the situation
U coming back screaming and crying
Ss0 or SS3 = Basic attack top / atk + 15 bottom
Sss or above basic attack top / Signature Move bottom
Maybe
so far i've used 3 different sets of resos with ish
Better Reso ishamel or crimson weave
Ishmael by far
How many teams should i have in pgr? And which are the best dps for each
Thanks bro
CW is outdated and not a priority
You eventually will need all teams
i still can't get over how ish was a huge improvement on two teams i was unsure about, but not an improvement at all on the one team i was certain it would improve
Oh which teams?
How many elements are there?
What team with Ishmael
mind elaborating on which teams 
i mentioned it earlier
Also who replaced cw?
been considering making a reso'd dv set for her
nanami
@barren plank so bro i don't have luna so what Reso dlt or dd
uncles signature or qu signature?
huge improvement for light (vs r0 feral), huge improvement for ice (vs 5* kale), but somehow a total sidegrade for fire (vs 5* empy)
also where do i go to get lilith?
I Tot she tank?
so i guess empy field time was actually that significant
she out damage CW
Event starts next week
Nanaknight creeped her
If your Nanaknight has DLT reso, then CW isnt even used unless she is SSS
empy dmg important enough to outweigh extra 10% ele dmg and 10% atk and 8% shred
Don't mine what i said
im gonna SS3 only. ( Thank you again)
crazy
what should alpha cw and 21s memories be for QTE botting w nanami solo
Roles don't matter
If unit deals more damage than prev unit they are the dps

Who's uncle
Thanks
is another copy a must for ss3 or is shard enough
shards only to ss0
ss3 needs dupes or vouchers
This is definitely a reason but I think the main thing is that Ish cant use Eins so even if her buffs are increased w resos it balances out
Qu is meh
They matter more for debuff and dmg boost 
watanabe
Davinci and Eins on CW, Samantha and guinavere on feral
no eins is not the factor
no i mean who needs the 6* weapon more
Oh really?
Da vinki
Vets
so for positioning pyroath on blue and watanabe on yellow?
eins is not the factor because
a) i lost eins on ice too but it was still +400k score
b) fire kills waves fast enough that eins is less value
c) my wata only has dlt so i put DD on ish, so i'm not even losing the full shred value
i have been doing liv on blue, pyroath on yellow and watanabe in red
do i have to wait for the next week to finish that quest?
Main Support Sub-DPS Set
Support Sub-DPS
High Difficulty, Pain Cage, Warzone, Clash Reflection, Norman
Recommended for all ranks
General DPS set
Can be used for both her Tank and Amplifier forms
This unit has not been released on Global yet. Please take these builds with a grain of salt as they are subject to change.
4x Sothoth
2x Cottie
Top Slot : 6x Any ATK+15 Variant
Bottom Slot: 6x Signature
Cottie
because watanabe pings A LOT of red orbs
play CR and some other challege and be lucky on gacha
Hmm interesting
like i included the shred loss from eins in teh calculation
Empryea still working miracles even on her deathbead 
guys, can you guys give me some tips whether who to pull? should i pull shukra, nanami, or lucia pyroath?
losing eins is -15% but gaining DD is +8%
I heard that i can get lilith from doing an event but i don't have. Where can I find it?
Does placement matter for upper and lower resonance?
so in total, ish is +10% ele dmg, +10% atk, -7% shred
is nanami at SSS a big difference from nanami at SS
Yea CR lets me get one per s rank usually
and ss 5* empy's field time is equivalent to all of that for me
which is just insane
shes not out yet
Crazy
lilith when
next week
and yet
she just spam meatball
Oh ok thanks
kk tysm
+600k in light with ish and cw qte bot, instead of feral alisa double amp
which i was not even remotely expecting 
Huh??????
How
is it big difference? or is it better to get someone else to SSS
well my feral and alisa are both r0 so that's something but
Oh fair
i was not expecting +600k lmao
btw u can resonace using memory but need gacha
too much ss already enough lol
5m with ss0 nanami solo 
Is the cog resource farm not permanent? I dont see it in the resource page any more
who should i SSS? should i wait for new vera? idk how to spend blue banner selector
Anyway to disable this?
Nah just need to purchase cog packs from the simulated battle shop
it was removed because there was no point to it, simulation shop was always more efficient
Skill issue
ish boosted my ice score by 700k 
Wait does SS ish r1 replace s kaleido or s feral with r0
It is better and more efficient to get multiple SS3s of new units than just SSS one
I cant open
It says its protected
I can open it fine, it's probably something on your end
Wait really
go for lucia fire or hanying to get ss3 that priority for now
if my account was ur account how would u spend blue banner selector
if im using einsteina on my feral, but im going to be using starrail and i use feral's qte, will einsteina proc?
kk tysm
😭 why the world wants me to not be able to do 30-14 achievement
The xl cog packs were better than the resource stage?
for me
ish r2 (+cw) vs feral r0 (+r0 alisa): +600k
ish r2 vs kale 5*: +400k
Damn ok thanks
use the virtual ram from phone sistem if noting but new phone
when feral shards in bp shop?
ye this has always been the case, if you were using the resource tab to farm cogs before you were inting yourself
Get either Solacetune or Pyroath SS3
im using a google pixel 7 ¯_(ツ)_/¯
if im using einsteina on my feral, but im going to be using starrail and i use feral's qte, will einsteina proc?
Oops i inted myself for about 2 weeks LMAOOO
eins procs on 3p and qte so yes
Don't see why it wouldn't work
Eins is QTE and 3ping
watanabes harmony?
Which one leap skill for CW?
4Shakespeare
alright i was just making sure cause i was under the impression that einsteina had to be on the character i was using
Shakes
usually you'd want the opposite lol
Just SS ish?
Would it be advisable to use a hefty amount of pulls for SS Shukra when I can use SSS Luna? Just wanna ask. 
weapon resonance?
yea
They're the same thing
The input is just different choose the one you are more comfortable witth
U won't do the leap rot anyways who cares really
i see, so if im using solo starrail would 4 pc dv and 2 pc einsteina be fine on my feral?
What do you mean? Can you explain? I'm watching a YouTube video at the same time. His first method is feeding the memory a duplicate memory (but it didn’t answer my question about whether it should be the same level, like 45), and the second is using a memory USB. But he didn’t talk about memroy gacha
if you're solo you're doing 2 qte bots, put eins on the other qte bot so you can put guin on feral

got it thank you
right instan left manual
ideally you put dv on the other one too so you can put guin and sam on feral
Hmm guess I’ll test it out. Is the mem set and r0 on build bot for other element amp
Alright
Oke
Nope it can be offield
man all you guys with ascendant role
i can't read your names 😭
Who to get for Vergil?
Its saying that the file is nonexistent
They don't need to be lvl 45
Just a dupe
U can also use mem shards (150)
Or simulation coins (like 613 or less idk)
nah u just need dupe or u can use event currency now, u need tab the memory on train button u can see it in there
@odd oyster
@carmine reef what r1 do I use for off element amp
The red memo usb should be used for 6x sig tbh 
How many duplicates? Is it cheaper than using a memory USB?
Ty!!!
SAR or GS but the fun thing is that ish can use tank resos at the same time too, so if your tank is missing DD you can put DD on ish too
which one of these i should go for?
So ishmael has 2 sets? 1 for tank, 1 for amplifier
Or 1 general set suit both
What tips do you give to level up the account? Because my friend says he doesn't know how to level up his account
Oh yea true
Wtf is GR smoking
2gloria 2guin for tank build
huh
Not technically cheap
Since it's rng unlike memo usb
But i'd recommend to save those memory usbs for later units (if you have 12 alr, just use 6 on lower reso for signature)
you have a better idea for her in a nihil team?
1 set for dps (nihil) where she is only tank
x number of sets for filling in other team, can wildly depend on what you're using her for
depent if lucky u can just 1 time, if not u can multiple until all reso gone XD
6x atk 15 is an easy rng though
Like 3-6 rerolls maybe at most
The Sothoth build for void dps
What she uses when she is filling in a role is highly flexible and situational
I like that they are against some people's Builds, so, they use their same Builds but with the two pieces on top 
guys, where can I find this setting in the current game? It does not appear in the button layout anymore
so sothoth and cottie?
for ish in light fill i put her on 4guin 4sam 
Is crimson weave still meta
Sss and above
At sss as a sub dps
Can you list me each set and itended usage
Ex
-
Nhil dps - 4… 2…2… etc
-
Tank….etc
on stage pause try check it on there if not on setting
Thanks!@broken elk @oak ice
What should I harmonize on Ishmael if I want to use her as both an off field support and void DPS without having to redo the harmony
Only in certain circumstances
High investment 
You need separate harmonies you can't really have one
Cottie harmo for void dps, when filing a role it is highly dependent on the situation
i just realized why shukra feel better to me this patch
Poverty invest too
i'm sorry brother i cannot list out every single possibility for you
nihil set is just 4 sothoth 4 cottie
off-element usage will vary wildly depending on what the other members in the team are holding, it could be various combinations of dv, sam, gloria, shred sets, whatever
it's because -3s cd on sss wanshi so i don't have to use her more than i need to
yeah still nothing for me

btw
Is there any weapon reso required for Ishmael?
ah just relize that pc setting maybe or u can just custom it
What about a general set
So nhil is 4 soth, 4 cottie
What is set for
Tank
Amplifier
She really needs DLT for void dps
if ishmael is used as amp will she turn herself into gen3 amp by default or does it depends on the tank
The builds vary far too much for tank and amp outside of nihil
It will be highly dependent on teams invest, characters used, and what you other members are holding
yeah I'm on PC
i keep telling you there isn't a general set for qte bots cause it depends on what the others are holding
i listed out the different combinations you could have
you have to divide out the support mems between the team depending on who can use them and who can fit them in
Depends on the amp actually
damn
for example if you're slotting her into ice team as ice amp with qu and wanshi, you'd put her on 4dv 4guin
but if you're slotting her into light team with nanami solo, the other qte bot can hold dv eins glo and you would put ish on 4guin 4sam because she's the one that can use the healing mems
Alright
Smh why is it hard to replicate Shorthalt rotation

sry mate cant help for that even i dont know just try that clean mode or u can just custom it by ur self
am i doing the right thing? its Startrail
that old when first came out after all
Skill issue
Jk what are you struggling with
thanks for the help anyway
Yes for main dps build
yea im using her for solo on phantom pain 
Just the rot, I tried using the same builds like in the vids I watch but smh I can't replicate the dmg they deal 
i want this patch tp end already
God I love luna
This is Windbell or Acaxi rotation?
gib me the screaming conductor
not enough 1 chainsaw hammer use 2 XD
Which resource is less important to use - Memory Shards, Simulation Coins, or duplicates? I don’t have any duplicates, but I can buy them if I need to lol
Dupes tbh
Windbell
which one is the second
spam again same rotattion XD
ah right
Since I'm going back to swap dark after lilith can anybody tell if ss3 daren rot changes after leap (never used before)?
Who should I dlt first in order between nanami, lamia, and ish?
desperate measure now you bypass chat cooldown
usually enemies just take a single charged maxed attack lmao
Nanaknight so op
Nanami > ish
Alright! I’m just gonna buy duplicates from the battlefield lol
@barren plank do I need Lucia sig cub by a chance 
yeah unless u forgot use the qte or bad timing on it
Cuz I realized that's why I was missing
me when the boss randomly teleports away mid animation

since we're getting lilith, is lamia worth using the standard selector on? got everyone else from meta teams, just wondering if it's worth getting her to complete dark team or just using it on pianissimo when she gets included
Dis guy still worth it?
how do i do deviated zone
Yea
Heck yea
@barren plank important discoveries have been made
Which one should I choose there's wanshi too there
I still dont get Luna Oblivion role, she fits everywhere?
like, i could use those 3 and it would work? (imagine Yata is CW)
yesn't
The heck does that supposed to mean
i took DD off and put GS on instead and now it's an improvement LOL
Main DPS Set
Main DPS
High Difficulty, Pain Cage, Warzone, Clash Reflection, Norman
General DPS/sub-DPS set
Used at all ranks
4x Hanna
2x Darwin
Top Slot : 6x Red/Yellow Orb
Bottom Slot: 6x Any ATK+15 Variant
Elizabeth
priority lucia fire and hanying for ss3, if not pick some meta for u team that u dont have
suboptimal team because no tank
do we get any free backgrounds this patch
I already got too many DPS tbh lmao I tryna get more support, I got hanying at ss tho rn, I tryna upgrade her through phantom pain
At what Investment does Startrail outdps Sss CW w/ sig + cub
s lol
Ban for misinformation
that's the truth
What the fu am i supposed to doalready set the build goal
if you don't count the background cards from the tab that gives CW for free then no
sss cw would still be worth having in the team, but that wasn't the question

well hanying ss3 for her ultima slash
lucia fire for her boost fire damage
nanami make her ss from this
well depen on u
the question was who does more dmg, which is nanami
i have both nanami and cw at ss0 sig cub, and at that invest nanami does straight up twice as much dmg
she still easily outdamages higher invest cw

- Lucia: Pyroath
- Selena: Pianissimo
- Ishmael: Parhelion
- Nanami: Startrail
- Hanying: Solacetune
- Vera: Geivaror
Okay last question (I think)How many tickets it take??
where do you use them items?
15k and is premanent
the reason you want sss cw in the team is not because she outdamages nanami, but because she's strong enough to justify swapping off
shop
because swap playstyle benefits nanami as well
Bett Ima save then for rn

should i get Shukra first or Lamia using the base research target? for my ice team i have the revolver ice tank and the brush amplifyer both at s. i have a very very old dark team (luna, rozen, xxi) but it still works. luna is at SS and i have SSS+ rozen.
yeah u can just pull 1 every patch and is still there
someone said that
bruh
when do we get our next anniversary background
the price increase btw
mid of july
Which cub is the most worth
that the reason u can pull every patch if want and save for later and no reset untill u done
ty
Which one I pick
lingya best pet supp
For CN servers which character has the strongest SS3?
Id would it would probably still be Pyroath
- Lucia: Pyroath
- Selena: Pianissimo
- Ishmael: Parhelion
- Nanami: Startrail
- Hanying: Solacetune
- Vera: Geivaror
ty : )
Whats calibration system? It popped up after i didnt get ishmael sig
Shameless plug
https://youtu.be/R6uGI5RrQDA
It was kinda well hidden
i would ss3 ishmael but i like her rot rn, its so easy, also she only has one team
guarantee on next one
Oh thats neat
it is, we only got it last patch
guarantee to get whatever weapon u chose
i would've liked it last year...
coulda implement it after dmc patch
That was my only complaint about the weapon banner (no loss mechanic) and now its fixed, dope
5 offrates
that me 3 time offrate on 1 weapon
Yikes
shukra or lost lullaby? which one is more needed?
idk if i should slowly get sss cw or balt
cw just cuz the qte damage, balt cuz i promised myself
Just wondering where these extra bc are considering I’ve done the weekly already
it count next week's bc
p weird
Is it a monthly thing?
total maybe
idk
visual bug
I was so confused
Like I’ve done my weekly wtf
Bro whare is the 5star weapon shards
Heya im back here again to ask questions, which char has signature priorities?
(i dont have the characters solactune, pyroath, lullaby, luna void, Shukra, Karen dark)
is better to pull hanying in blue ticket if i already have oblivion, lucia and nanami?
check daily mission?
So do I replace Teddy or XXI on my Oblivion team with Ishmael
Daily mission,
yes if u dont have her
i dont have etipath too but show much better hanying or uncle wata?
I can't find it
the pain to do these… How long would it take to get all the summons
I know y’all are probably tired of people asking but is startrail or Watanabe: Epitaph better as tank for Dante? I understand they have different team uses but which is in general better for me as a f2p with the s rank blue tickets being available
Currently contemplating to summon for ishmael cause I don't have liv empyrea. Is it wort it?
star trail is the better option she has like 3 teams
DFM, CWaves, ATundra takes days-weeks, while RDF takes weeks even if you do a complete run each day
if u can make uncle wata ss then yeah but uncan use ismail for that now but up to u mate
bump!
S at most but SS + DLT much comfortable one
star trail does so much dmg solo its not even funny
SS Obvilion worth it? I tried to grind it for abit
Yes
send your server and player id
👍
yes prirority for void without it u damage is half
need to see your roster
this is considering if u play multiple complete run for the first 3 modes
Asia pacific 14968160
Guys am i building her rightly?(for use her as a amp for other teams)
No luna? Man that's tough
Thx, gonna go pull now wish me luck
Which member target should i pick, should I choose Nanami Startrail for the full lightning team?
yeah man, i took a hiatus from this game, got burnt out from being too competitive..
wtf build T_T
oh huaxu, what do i do next?
Who should do i take from the video line up?
yeah, placement of build could be improved tho but idk if its that important
who should i ss first? i got 1k skulls I have
shukra(with sig), cw, feral, luna, stigmata, ishmael, alisa, kaleido
wait what do you have as the mem res
for min-max yah important un less u dont want then no need
for amp i use class skill because she wont be swapping in to use sig
Ishmael -> Luna -> qu
For support build, reso must be Class Skill , not Ult
Alr thx 
the bot needs to be updated btw
.
for ishmael support build it says sig instead of class skill on bot
Well bot gave me that build
yeah ik, its wrong for sig
Alternative Support Set
QTE Support
High Difficulty, Pain Cage, Warzone, Clash Reflection, Norman
Recommended for all ranks
Ishmael will not be able to be on-fielded with this set. Only used as an alternative filler for elemental teams should there be no better options.
Important: If using her tank form, remove the Guinevere 2pc set as Ishmael will not be able to trigger the set bonus effect in her tank form.
This unit has not been released on Global yet. Please take these builds with a grain of salt as they are subject to change.
4x Da Vinci
2x Guinevere
Top Slot : 6x Any ATK+15 Variant
Bottom Slot: 6x Signature
Guinevere
looks like huaxu is down
do your other units have sigs?
was about to ask the same thing, do we have to res for support build?
just put class skill, dont need ht
ok
wtf
why rec gray ravens
just use the bot wtf
Lucia
gr quality is sh*t
yeah gray ravens is wrong alot of the time
well for detail
what details
the bot is usally always correct
the details are convulated
not all lol for newest they update it not the old CW and before
off elem support right?
then this is correct
lmfao
i see how they are behind the scene
its sh*t
seems like so
so far the chars that hab sigs are
Watanabe Epi
CW
Selena Capri
Liv empy
Rozen
Balter
Vera garnet
Hyperreal
nanamech
and then here are the chars that i dont have... (i have ishmael now)
smh even bot is incorrect
6 ult dv ishmael
send proof
Yall how much storage does this new patch take
wtf wrong ping
5gb update for mobile
Wait ur right
Simulation shop
I have to let Ek know
the bot does need update ish support build tho
to make it class skill, thats about it
what memory reso should a qte bot feral have?
also guys is ish amp build the same as off element tank
get luna oblivion and use selector for her sig
Alternative Support Set
QTE Support Healer/Buffer
High Difficulty, Pain Cage, Warzone, Clash Reflection, Norman
QTE Bot Set
4x Da Vinci
2x Guinevere
Top Slot : 6x Any ATK+15 Variant
Bottom Slot: 6x Class Skill
Guinevere
Has it died down?
ngl feral ss3 is a liability
Im using vinci tho
no field time
wait why, does it make her worse lmao
All and any roles Ish servers when filling in wildly vary on the situation team, memeber, invest, etc
good thing she's reducced to qte bot
tbf who perfect resos ish dv ish build anyway
thx
Where u at yesterday, it was chaos
Feral is cute
I was here

i did 
oh. gonna be quite far then since
Who is best to take if I’m going for Luna oblivion first?
Also I only got helper role like an hour ago


