📨・meta-help

[polar herald]

not like it's going to survive memory resonance

[muted coral]

If you get the black cards it doesn’t matter

[carmine reef]

and nanami's wep makes score go higher as much as anyone's

[carmine reef]

ok? that's obviously not what this conversation is about

[tranquil bramble]

[wispy robin]

r3 ish vs 3s r2 lilith with nana on legend
lilith is pretty significant score boost

[carmine reef]

what kind of response is that

[tranquil bramble]

[muted coral]

Do you NEED her weapon. if ur competing

boo ya

[polar herald]

yes

[carmine reef]

dude think logically about what i'm saying

[tranquil bramble]

If you want to make it to Legend

[carmine reef]

the point of getting the weapon is to make your score go higher

[tranquil bramble]

Do you need to? No

[carmine reef]

that's what competing means

[tranquil bramble]

Is it gonna make your life easier? Yeah but it's not like

[carmine reef]

nanami's weapon makes her score go higher even compared to other people who "need" their sig to be playable

[tranquil bramble]

You gotta have it or you're cooked

[carmine reef]

even though her rotation looks FUNCTIONAL without it, that doesn't make it LESS value

and if it's HIGHER value than some other sigs...and you're saying the others NEED theirs...then you'd have to say nanami needs hers too

[wispy robin]

i wonder if it's worth hting ss echo for glacio...

[tranquil bramble]

Wanshi weapon sweep

[shrewd cosmos]

Still less value

[tranquil bramble]

Yo wait

[carmine reef]

dude

[shrewd cosmos]

¯_(ツ)_/¯

[barren plank]

Probably

[tranquil bramble]

This guy has a fire name

[carmine reef]

you are flat out not understanding what i'm laying down for you

[tranquil bramble]

Wait no he ran away

[carmine reef]

your score is the only thing that matters for competing

higher score = more value sig

[tranquil bramble]

So long Poop Lord

[carmine reef]

nanami 5* to r1 is literally like a 40-50% score increase

[wispy robin]

nanami literally carries 3 meta teams
no heisen on tank = brick

[shrewd cosmos]

Yeah sure, but point is, she does NOT need her weapon desperately for f2p players unless they for some reason wanna be hitting super high scores

[summer topaz]

if you dont care about score just pull base S and use 5*

[carmine reef]

the SCORE is why ANYONE would "need" their sig desperately dude

that's all anything boils down to in the end

[tranquil bramble]

Holy yap attack

[muted coral]

“f2p” “super high scores” 💔

MONEY!

[tranquil bramble]

Anyways Qu without her sig is what we call testicular torsion

[polar herald]

damn they still going

[carmine reef]

if a character's rotation just feels weird without sig but still gets 90% of the score, that is NOT a need

[fluid gulch]

damn right

[summer topaz]

if f2p cares about score then nanami sig is a need

[tranquil bramble]

Nanami has that effect on people

[shrewd cosmos]

exactly. point is: her wep is needed is needed for high scores. otherwise shes viable without it

[carmine reef]

anyone is viable without it

if you don't care about the score

[tranquil bramble]

Let's not be too hasty

[muted coral]

4 star weapon gang rise up

[carmine reef]

the score is the point

[muted coral]

new meta

[tranquil bramble]

Have you played Lamia without her sig

[carmine reef]

if you don't care about getting high scores then why care about sig

[tranquil bramble]

I'm going to dunk you

[carmine reef]

the score is what you're competing on

[polar herald]

my situation rn my dark team is COOKED

[tranquil bramble]

https://tenor.com/view/basketball-slam-dunk-man-dunks-basketball-basketball-hoop-gif-26961879

[cold walrus]

I'd say nanami sig is more important since nanami is the main and the only dps unit in current lightning and crucial unit for 2 affixes, meanwhile other teams can somehow cope with underdeveloped units (though sigless luna is a nightmare)

[tranquil bramble]

Lilith save us

[polar herald]

i'm just gonna wait for Lilith and cope in hero

[tranquil bramble]

Bro my dark team is omega washed

[muted coral]

Score on a gacha game feels like a money competition most of the time

[shrewd cosmos]

Bro, im cooked as hell rn. Teddy as my sole dark char rn

[wispy robin]

luna sigless is fine since ish can solo

[polar herald]

not just that but i'm also missing karenina's sig

[tranquil bramble]

Yikes

[summer topaz]

that harmo is pretty huge especially to anchor multiple teams

[tranquil bramble]

Bro I don't even have Daren

[cold walrus]

Does she? Ss0 or ss3 only?

[frank kindle]

luna or ish sig

[tranquil bramble]

💀

[muted coral]

Ish

[tranquil bramble]

Ish sig prob

[barren plank]

In the scaling of weapon priority in this game things get really hard because you have to balance character coverage versus what the weapon actually does for the character

[barren plank]

Between those two, Ish

[wispy robin]

https://www.bilibili.com/video/BV1tu9KYzE1T?t=3.8 ss0 ish solo 470w

[polar herald]

dark team? surely you mean the Luna Nanami Amp special

[tranquil bramble]

I just had an anureysm trying to read that

[frank kindle]

guess then mommy is getting queen treatment

[wispy robin]

luna sig sohuld be one of your lowest priorities

[barren plank]

Ok i fixed spelling lmao

[muted coral]

Wha

[tranquil bramble]

Thank you bro

[shrewd cosmos]

What

[muted coral]

https://tenor.com/view/bro-just-typing-shit-bro-just-typing-shit-gif-18336060238854257551

[polar herald]

akatsuki forbidden technique: immaculate crack rock

[muted coral]

Ninjutsu don’t grow on trees

[tranquil bramble]

The importance of Nanami's sig Vs someone like Lamia or Qu is like night and day

[carmine reef]

your examples do not make sense

qu needs it a lot and lamia doesn't need it at all

[fluid gulch]

Quick question: is difference between Vera's SS0 and SS3 big enough to consider getting it

[muted coral]

Gun to your head play sigless pyroath

Js get it over with

[tranquil bramble]

Tf you think I'm doin'

[barren plank]

Lamia is't that bad without sig tbh

[wispy robin]

ish solo score is not that much off from swap, f2ps can pretty much completely ignore luna and keep her base s 4* and still be more than fine

[tranquil bramble]

Damn I guess I just suck at her

[carmine reef]

no not really
the sss is what's thicc

[tranquil bramble]

Or it's because I don't have Dark Karen

XXI sweep

[upbeat phoenix]

Which upcoming chars (ishmael, selena, vera) need their sigs to function properly?

[barren plank]

All of them

[summer topaz]

how big is that new qte reset with new amps like vera and lilith 3s?

[formal patrol]

What happens/what can I do if i own multiple of the same coating?

[tranquil bramble]

Ngl I couldn't remember who else so I just said Lamia

[fluid gulch]

It's tempting, but I can't afford it without bricking or semi bricking myself

[cold walrus]

But you still need to pull luna because ish is impotent without luna class passive

[carmine reef]

it's kinda mid

[upbeat phoenix]

All of their rotations are changed because of no sig?

[muted coral]

All. gen 3 moment

[barren plank]

Impossible

If you get a coating you already own iirc u just get cogs or smth

[formal patrol]

[fluid gulch]

I still want that wedding skin god damn it

[wispy robin]

luna carries both light and dark too so you need her anyway

[tranquil bramble]

No.

[simple dew]

funeral skin

[fluid gulch]

Yes.

I want it.

[tranquil bramble]

She's not gonna let you hit lil' bro.

[cold walrus]

True

[summer topaz]

you get coating blueprints with the gacha ones dunno about paid one if they even let you

[fluid gulch]

I'm not asking tho

[muted coral]

b b but if i give my money to the chinese gacha game who knows

[tranquil bramble]

Trve...

[fluid gulch]

I just like it, that's it

[tranquil bramble]

I was about to say fair

[muted coral]

Kuro skins be too good recently…

[shrewd cosmos]

If the sig makes a character more comfy playable, by changing how a mechanic works or increases orbs given, then it has higher value.

if it's just a damage boost: not too valuable.

should be the end of the debate

[fluid gulch]

Well I guess SS0 Vera will be fine

[tranquil bramble]

Then I remembered the infinitely better character is also releasing

That same patch

[carmine reef]

comfy isn't how you compete

[fluid gulch]

Which one?

[tranquil bramble]

Selena.

[fluid gulch]

PFFFFFFT

[carmine reef]

you don't compete by feeling good

[fluid gulch]

[weary dragon]

Brother comes into the meta channel to feelycraft

[tranquil bramble]

Just make out already so this can end

[muted coral]

Quite the opposite.

[barren plank]

?

[carmine reef]

like tf you think this is

[shrewd cosmos]

Alr, Well, Come here pookie @carmine reef

-# i cant believe i said this

[tranquil bramble]

https://tenor.com/view/devil-may-cry-devil-may-cry4-nero-punching-dmc4-gif-26661118

[cold walrus]

The only way to compete is swiping 💳

[fluid gulch]

SAY MY NAME

[barren plank]

QoL is QoL, it doesn't directly affect score just how easy or smooth the character feels to use

[tranquil bramble]

Look inwards

[fluid gulch]

WHAT DOES IT SAY

[tranquil bramble]

IT SAYS YOU'RE A FOOL!

[wispy robin]

comfiness aren't going to help you neither in ppc nor wz and theres literally 0 other content in the game where sigs would matter
unless you have fun doing no hit runs in celica class or something

[tranquil bramble]

AND WRONG

GRAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAH

[fluid gulch]

IF VERGIL WAS JUST A BIT BETTER, I WOULD'VE COMPELETY IGNORED SELENA

Well almost

[tranquil bramble]

WHAAAAAAAT

[fluid gulch]

Fck affixes

[tranquil bramble]

This guy

[muted coral]

i think a comfy rotation is just one that doesn’t waste time with normal attacks to generate orbs that can be avoided by having the weapon

especially when it isn’t damage optimal to be

[fluid gulch]

No way I'm getting ANY selena skin

[deft apex]

U know selena is glacio dps right?

[summer topaz]

but if it doesnt affect scores all that much then i wouldnt call it high priority

[simple dew]

all of the floplena skins.

[tranquil bramble]

I mean neither am I but that's because I swore an oath not to swipe

[muted coral]

True.

[fluid gulch]

.

[harsh swallow]

I was just wondering, in some coating story there is a message "for best experience headphones are recommended"
Yet the part isnt even voiced?

[barren plank]

The misconception that QoL on weapons nowadays is better than just damage is because now it's less so a nice bonus and moreso "this character plays like a pseudo unit without it"
QoL isnt inherently necessary to compete or score well

[carmine reef]

the coating stories are voiced though

[tranquil bramble]

They usually have special music playing for the cutscenes

[barren plank]

Only in CN dub

[tranquil bramble]

L

[simple dew]

cn gatekeeping

[muted coral]

Wasn’t there this talk about shukra earlier

[carmine reef]

i haven't checked this current round but all the past coating stories had jp

[shrewd cosmos]

They are dubbed?

plays the game with no volume

[simple dew]

kuso cant afford english va

[fluid gulch]

That wedding coating is gonna bring me much more satisfaction than any wz score increase

[muted coral]

even with dlt it’s 2 2s. something like that

[brazen shadow]

Hello there, new player over here, is it better trying to get first the characters with their weapons or can I skip the weapons?

[muted coral]

like you got the orbs but it’s just not… perfect

[fluid gulch]

Well almost

[barren plank]

I don't remember JP story being voiced at all but I have the recall of an amoeba so what do I remember

[carmine reef]

it's just a really low percentage probability of occcurring though

[shrewd cosmos]

Character always has inf times more value. also for weps, you can skip a lot of them

[carmine reef]

qu sig+dlt gives you a perfect rotation like 95% of the time

without it you literally can't even attempt a 2 rot

[formal patrol]

Dlt?

[tranquil bramble]

Are there any characters that need their CUB more than their sig

[carmine reef]

dead line timing
weapon resonance that gives orbs

[tranquil bramble]

Other than well Wanshi

[carmine reef]

no
not even wanshi

harmo is too important

[shrewd cosmos]

dead line timing. gives 3 orbs every 45 sec i think

[carmine reef]

there is not and never will again be a character that wants sig more than cub

[tranquil bramble]

Surprising

[carmine reef]

the only character that you could've applied that to in the past was kaleido

but that doesn't even apply to her now

[barren plank]

Yea Shukra's weapon is needed for her not because it's a nice little bonus, she needs it cause she's a pseudo unit without it, same with most characters nowadays

QoL in of itself isnt necessary, we say go for QoL sigs now because usually they are wholly necessary for the unit to actually function (and even then people devise methods and rotations with 5stars so it works out)

[wispy robin]

qu one is pretty questionable because solo wanshi score isn't that far off, especially if you aren't into malding wz and just onetapping
in that case wanshi sig is much higher priority because it's for both ice glacio and dark too if 3s

[fluid gulch]

Dark? why dark?

[formal patrol]

Is there a certain rank qu wants

[barren plank]

I don't mean that u should get it over Wanshi sig Im just drawing an example for QoL

[fluid gulch]

SS0

Or SSS

[carmine reef]

ss0

[wispy robin]

lilith 3s wanshi luna is the dark team if you don't have high invest scire and r1 lamia

[formal patrol]

That bridge looks real nice to jump off of

[fluid gulch]

oh okay

[muted coral]

SSS+ if you want to use her instead of plume. Don’t ask for my source

[carmine reef]

ss0, sig, dlt, have all 3 and you're pretty much guaranteed smooth 2 rots on qu

[formal patrol]

[shrewd cosmos]

Source: Trust me bro

[muted coral]

Source: i thinked it

[barren plank]

Oh btw when did people start using SSS Wanshi with dark

Can sm1 explain the science to me cause Im big dumb

[summer topaz]

luna's passive

[formal patrol]

You Big dummy

[polar herald]

wanshi shred applies to all elements when you use luna

[fluid gulch]

I saw people using Luna and Emperya for lightning wz

I still don't understand how that works

[barren plank]

OH w Oblivion I thought ppl just meant wanshi on his own

[fluid gulch]

MONEY

[shrewd cosmos]

shouldnt emperya be useless? im confused

[barren plank]

<@&595893856554319873>

[polar herald]

🚨 MODS 🚨 SMITE HIM

[muted coral]

£50 steam giftcard
google.com

[barren plank]

Uh no?

[shrewd cosmos]

Bud pinged all mods

[fiery skiff]

Mmm money

[shadow atlas]

<@&595893856554319873> <@&842033830583599115>
your daily paycheck

[frank kindle]

if mod reads it, u cute

[shrewd cosmos]

Ngl, i really dont pay attention as to how buffs and amps work. how would emperya work? aint she just giving a fire dm bonus?

[barren plank]

Luna converts all buffs and debuffs to apply to all elements

[shrewd cosmos]

OH

it applies to buffs as well? didnt know that

[fluid gulch]

Quite helpful

[barren plank]

The people using Luna Empyrea/Kaleido either lack Feral or have their used amp at a higher rank/invest

[muted coral]

so.. is empyrea the best support shred and damage wise

why not use like ayla

[barren plank]

It depends from what each account has invested in

[muted coral]

or buffs. not shred

[fluid gulch]

She's bad

[graceful trout]

Can you get SSS wanshi without pulling him?

[crisp geyser]

[fluid gulch]

Like even before Vera she was bad

[rustic salmon]

I love it when google gives me free 50$

[muted coral]

Voucher power

[fluid gulch]

Who doesn't?

[severe jungle]

What's the team for Pyro Lucia?

[rustic salmon]

I think they used the wrong copy paste

[muted coral]

You gotta go find it yourself

Tough luck

[fluid gulch]

Emperya and Epitpah

[shrewd cosmos]

Lucia, wanta, emp (replace with vera once shes out)

[rustic salmon]

Dang

[muted coral]

i got a better link

[severe jungle]

Which Vera?

[devout coral]

Hey can someone point me in the direction to get password recovery help?

[muted coral]

free £50
indeed.com

[shrewd cosmos]

new one, not the old one. not out yet. shes incoming after next patch

[devout coral]

Or well account recovery actually...

[muted coral]

free in the sense you don’t need to pay for it

[severe jungle]

Do i need to get them to ss or s rank is good enough?

[muted coral]

https://tenor.com/view/vegeta-reading-vegeta-reading-book-vegeta-book-left-pocket-dogshit-left-pocket-dog-shit-gif-13802635364986112978

[fluid gulch]

SS is mandatory for everyone

[shrewd cosmos]

bets I can do is to throw u into #📨・tech-support and #📨・tech-support-faq

[fiery skiff]

Thank youuu

[turbid depot]

Finally understand how pyrooath works but I have no team

[shrewd cosmos]

SS is manditory, BUT wanta is decent at S

[frank kindle]

[shrewd cosmos]

but... Hmm, ig emp wouldnt be worth it anymore if u can wait for vera

[obtuse tinsel]

im sad

[graceful trout]

How can something be mandatory but also be decent without it lol

[severe jungle]

Dang, is there a way to obtain their shard without pulling?

[shrewd cosmos]

PPC

[obtuse tinsel]

i thought i was going to be able to complete my fire team but watanabe epipath is in none of these s rank selectors i have

[shrewd cosmos]

Mandatory since u can get everyone to SS for free

but decent cuz he's usable without S

[turbid depot]

Sss or 🧱

Nah Jk

[shrewd cosmos]

LET THIS MAN PREACH

[turbid depot]

[muted coral]

Uhh if you have the new units.. you could use that standard selector as a last resort

[severe jungle]

I still don't understand how to get phantom pain cage currency

[muted coral]

i mean everything AFTER shukra

[turbid depot]

Now where do I get epithap

[frank kindle]

selena selector

[turbid depot]

U build 3 teams and do it if you play Hi3 it's similar to MA

[frank kindle]

[muted coral]

there

[turbid depot]

Hmm should I build black miku

[obtuse tinsel]

i think the only ones that would be usefull are maybe another copy of liv empyrian, or bianca stigmata

[shrewd cosmos]

doing bosses and getting high score gives u points for missions. missions give u a currency called pain skulls which allows u to buy character shards. you need 500 pain skulls to get a char to SS. Also doing higher ranked zones gives u more

[turbid depot]

No not bianca stigmata

Y u Gon 🧱 that guy

[severe jungle]

Do i get them weekly?

[turbid depot]

Yes

[shrewd cosmos]

yuh

[turbid depot]

But u can only buy 30 frags of each unit you own

[slim tusk]

hi i just started this week, what do i prioritize to get black cards? main story or do i do something else?

[severe jungle]

what about Startrail and Pyro?

[shrewd cosmos]

Well, 2 ways. either via the s rank banner reset next patch or the s rank selector next patch. Or gamble with throw back fate and regular banner

[graceful trout]

Dailies, weeklies, events

[obtuse tinsel]

they are not in this selector

[turbid depot]

All of it stam wise much better to throw on event for materials

[obtuse tinsel]

i think its a selector for old characters

[slim tusk]

okay thanks, which events do i do first right now?

[coarse spire]

Will pyroath be in the base selector?

[graceful trout]

You’ll have to start the story to unlock some weeklies though

[shrewd cosmos]

next patch, if not then the patch after. but the s rank selector will have them

[turbid depot]

If S rank selector next patch there's any must included there to get?

[muted coral]

ye

[muted coral]

it’s up to nanami. pyroath was before

[shrewd cosmos]

whatchu got?

[turbid depot]

Em 🧱

[shrewd cosmos]

Ah

how badly?

[turbid depot]

🧱

[graceful trout]

I’d just go by ending soonest, I think two ended yesterday and there’s one ending in a couple days, there’s one that’s going another week but it’s pretty long so starting on that isn’t a bad idea, I think it’s called stellar witching hour or something

[chilly trail]

Hanying solactune then

[frank kindle]

hanying next patch owo

[turbid depot]

No

Jk

[graceful trout]

If you can and you have time what you really want to do is unlock PPC and WZ and get the weeklies done since they reset tonight

[shrewd cosmos]

U wanna get hang solace from the s rank banner

[frank kindle]

mommy

[turbid depot]

[shrewd cosmos]

As for S rank selector... I dont remember the piority, but i think its QU

Nvm, its Wanta

[coarse spire]

Is ss cw better than most a ranks

[turbid depot]

Wanta?

[shrewd cosmos]

yeah... but thats a pretty low bar

[turbid depot]

Cw is fun

But nanaknight is just simply built diff

[graceful trout]

QTEs can be kinda fun yeah

[shrewd cosmos]

Watanabe: Epitaph

[turbid depot]

Hmmm ig imma get unc then

[shrewd cosmos]

Would be funny if Yata out damages her

[turbid depot]

But I do need dark

[calm panther]

is this better value than banner? I know it's 15000 max like a banner but for the rewards that you get along the way and probabilities of early

[shrewd cosmos]

lillith is main dps for dark team. can follow up with teddy as your QTE bot... and something for backup dps cuz lillith cant solo

[turbid depot]

Where is that but eh that's probably expensive

[turbid depot]

Sadly my D.karen not Ss3 so

[calm panther]

next patch, it's the same price as doing 60 pulls to guarantee the selector

[shrewd cosmos]

it's just a free s rank selector till nana. not high piority unless ur missing a piority char or any of the semi new ones

[turbid depot]

[summer topaz]

it cost the same amount for a 60pity but you get lots of stuff and you pick the s rank id say its a good deal

[calm panther]

I haven't pulled pyroath yet so I'm wondering whether to do it from banner or there

[mental shoal]

dude wth random ppl can join my story run😭

[wispy robin]

bruh ss0 r0 echo glacio doesn't even get close to light score what a brick

[shrewd cosmos]

Idk tbh

[wispy robin]

do you have any other char you would need to backpull like hanying?
if no then pulling pyro on that banner much better cause decent chance to get early

[fluid gulch]

most of the stuff is useless

[chilly trail]

Turn off support

[fluid gulch]

I don't know whatever the fck is in here

[wispy robin]

ht

[near epoch]

Nanami or pyroath

[mental shoal]

eh i mean its useful so imma keep it, it was just funny to see it LMAO

[calm panther]

nah, not anyone else, and alright then

ill wait

[fluid gulch]

eh, I guess it's something

[frank kindle]

[wispy robin]

you can save up as much as half of the cost
it's especially high chance to save 3k on the last pull

[fluid gulch]

Good banner for backpulling

That's pretty much it

[wispy robin]

time to backpull ss3 han to make your virgin playable

[fluid gulch]

I have my han at SS3

R2 also

[frank kindle]

U think its good one to make ss3 han

[wispy robin]

idk are you whel

[prisma citrus]

Is crimson weave considered a good unit?

[fluid gulch]

I still need SS3 for Nanami

[frank kindle]

I got all passes including 7day one and gonna keep it going untill september

[fluid gulch]

But we got base banner selector reset next patch

[wispy robin]

you are probably fine to pull for it if you came for virgin

[frank kindle]

Im getting luna from it

[swift vortex]

i have s hanying what would be the fastest whay to get her a higher rank

[frank kindle]

And i aint skipping any debut chars

[dapper skiff]

💳

[fluid gulch]

I thought about about getting SS6 Pyro from that banner

[frank kindle]

Gotcha, i played lots of bdo. 10% is almost guaranteed

[fluid gulch]

And then getting SSS from arrival

15k is too costy

[frank kindle]

12 if lucky

[fluid gulch]

Still

[wispy robin]

should pull for sss dante insetad smh

[fluid gulch]

[slim tusk]

where do I find the stronghold?

[calm panther]

the real strat

[fluid gulch]

should pull for pyro wedding coating fr fr

[near epoch]

Whats base banner selector

[pure fern]

how many copy need SS to SSS?

[fluid gulch]

You will be able to get any S rank up to Star trail from it

[pure fern]

thinking to get nanami here and get nanami on standard reset too

[fluid gulch]

3

[chilly trail]

Challenge

[pure fern]

oh 3 i thought 2 only

[fluid gulch]

2 is SS6

[pure fern]

nvm then

[near epoch]

Oh when is that🤩

[fluid gulch]

next patch

[near epoch]

When is next patch

[fluid gulch]

soon

[calm panther]

Vergil stuck with beta Hanying
Dante chadding alongside NANAMI ARUTIMETO SPECTAKURU, YAAAAAAAAAH

[pure fern]

so maybe i will ss3 my hanying only

[near epoch]

like the thing I used and get weakest s char

[coarse spire]

Will pyroath be in the next patch selector base banner?

[slim tusk]

thank you i found it

[near epoch]

Give me date 😭

[chilly trail]

Yes

[vale raft]

Current Roadmap (as of May 04th 2025)

[fluid gulch]

14th or around that time

[tawdry glacier]

hi, what does this mean

[near epoch]

Ohh so when that banner ends I got it

[fluid gulch]

War Zone is already ended

[chilly trail]

Oh updated alr

[calm panther]

it means your account is ruined and 3 weeks behind joever

[fluid gulch]

Gotta wait for tomorrow

[pure fern]

the sync will not end on selena patch?

[deft apex]

No

[fluid gulch]

Prob on collab patch

[barren plank]

We dunno when

[fluid gulch]

Or patch after it

[pure fern]

prediction last week they said its on selena patch

well good for me then

[shadow atlas]

what prediction?

[pure fern]

and bad for my wallet

[calm panther]

there's no way it could end on selena patch

[near epoch]

So I can get Luna from it?😍

[calm panther]

unless they do like

5 patches at once

[fluid gulch]

Yes

[toxic crown]

for void team:
luna, nanami, kaleido OR luna, nanami, empy?

[barren plank]

Whichever amp is higher invest/rank

[fluid gulch]

Kaleido

[calm panther]

kaleido

[toxic crown]

thanks

[fluid gulch]

this too

[pure fern]

this one

[calm panther]

don't torture yourself with empy

[barren plank]

Bruh yall need to ask investment first before you give general blanket recommendations

[near epoch]

Who is better pyroath or nanami? I got pyroath and her sig because she is looking sexy that's all

[calm panther]

we woudln't be synced up then

[dapper skiff]

Nah

[fluid gulch]

It's an old one

[shadow atlas]

think you misread the thing entirely

[barren plank]

One is a lightning tank the other is a fire attacker, can't really be comapreed

[pure fern]

oh i see

[near epoch]

I'm new

[shrewd cosmos]

They no compare.

[pure fern]

well i just saw it i didnt read

[near epoch]

fanservice for everyone

[wispy robin]

@deft apex did you see my glacio score

[dapper skiff]

SS0 Selena?

[calm panther]

nanami, don't listen to these propagandist telling you you can't compare, nanami is better nanami is all you need she's the only one she's everything she's spectakuru

[dapper skiff]

[wispy robin]

ss r0 echo
not even close to solo nana light score
brick team

[deft apex]

Look above

[near epoch]

Buy pyroath says I love you

[calm panther]

but nanami monster hunters

[dapper skiff]

What's full invest

[shrewd cosmos]

think of it this way: you have a sniper and a rpg. both have their own uses and situations where ones better then the other. Both are good for their own content, neither is better

[deft apex]

Its 2 lines

[wispy robin]

ss r1 selena ss r0 echo sss r1 wanshi
all class skill full ht

[dapper skiff]

What is that even means

[pure fern]

oh i see

[deft apex]

Idk how people can misunderstand the infographic, it truly cant be simpler

[pure fern]

then means i stil lcan get lots of bc then

[calm panther]

I really recommend to you trying to get nanami tho

[near epoch]

I NEED TO SLEEP WELL WILL ASK AGAIN DO WE GET BANNER SELECTOR IN 14TH MAY? BECAUSE IM DUMB AND SELECTED THE MOST WEAKEST 5 STAR CHARACTER INSTEAD OF LUNA

[formal patrol]

Is there a difference between placing a memory in #1 vs #3? I keep seeing weird layouts and I'm wondering if it's just aesthetics. Ik there's a stat difference in top and bottom

[dapper skiff]

Nyaruhodo

[deft apex]

Holy whel

[calm panther]

that they don't know how the game works

[shrewd cosmos]

Atp, make a new account

[calm panther]

who did you select

[dapper skiff]

Just aesthetic

[wispy robin]

they said glacio was strong but it's the most brick team i have

[near epoch]

Don't have motivation for that

[shrewd cosmos]

have some

[formal patrol]

This

[near epoch]

Are we getting that in 14th may or not

[dapper skiff]

SSS wanshi keeping u big as hell

[shrewd cosmos]

https://tenor.com/view/where-is-your-motivation-where's-your-motivation-wheres-your-motivation-vergil-vergil-dmc-gif-4153196228805105292

[near epoch]

gave it all to vergil

[pure fern]

is SSS wanshi better than nanami on a luna comp?

[calm panther]

I believe so, or at least a few days after

[wispy robin]

chad 6m ion vs virgin 4m glacio

[dapper skiff]

Compared to ss Nanami, yeah

[pure fern]

SSS wanshi no weapon tho but nanami has

[dapper skiff]

SS3 pyro?

[shrewd cosmos]

minuscule difference, which unless your sweaty as hell, doesnt matter

[tawdry glacier]

is there a guide explaining the cluttered UI and all the sub menus and stuff

[wispy robin]

even ss0 should give you close to 6m tbh, i got 6.7 with ss3

[dapper skiff]

Wut

livWhat

That amp buff is crazy

[shrewd cosmos]

prob cuz they are re using memories

[dapper skiff]

Low invest ss3 Lucia can only push 3.6m with daren

That's insane

Daren is truly brick

[fluid gulch]

I'm so ready for SSS Lilith

[coarse spire]

What are some good team comps for lucia pyroath

[wispy robin]

ss3 r1 pyro sss r2 lilith ss r1 nana 6,7m
ss3 lilith was 6,5

[fluid gulch]

I'M SO FCKING DONE WITH LAMIA

Also, FCK ION

[dapper skiff]

Ss3 Lilith already has 20% atk + 20% ele buff and 20% ele buff from heal isn't it?

livWhat

[wispy robin]

yea sss lilith is pretty marginal increase in ion

[dapper skiff]

Goh DAYUM

[chilly trail]

Ion lilith need dlt?

[dapper skiff]

All of those buff can give u 2mil more score

[shrewd cosmos]

Pyro, wanta, emp. - main

Pryo, nana, lillith - affix

[dapper skiff]

Crazy

[tall cape]

Sup?
I've been gone for a while. Heard about DMC collab and decided to blwo some dust off from my account)
Have a lot of a few questions for y'all, if you don't mind:

• Does Garnet Vera still slay?
• Anybody currently on I should/must get?
• Who's fun to play?
• Anything I need to know/do immediately (like before weekly reset in 6 hrs or so)?

[fluid gulch]

I don't have dlt on my scire so my ion score is like 1.3m

[wispy robin]

resos are also very big
i got 400-500k score boost per amp reso

[true pivot]

if s+ lilith will her up time be more than ss3 nanami or its still bricked

[deft apex]

Garnet got obliterated

[fluid gulch]

I SOMEHOW promoted to Legend the same week

[dapper skiff]

Oh fck yeah, global ion team have 0 access to amp resos

Truly no rights

[near epoch]

WHY YOU GUYS TOLD ME TO RESTART AGAIN? WE ARE GETTING GUARANTEED 5* AGAIN ANYWAY?? I WILL NEVER TRUST YOU ALL AGAIN

[dapper skiff]

https://tenor.com/view/xd-laughlmao-meme-laugh-discord-lm-gif-22423735

[tall cape]

for real? how bad is it?
who gives the same ammount of auditory dopamine high of skill use?

[shrewd cosmos]

Does Garnet Vera still slay? - No, but vera is getting a new frame
Anybody currently on I should/must get? - Luna oblivion
Who's fun to play? - personal perference
Anything I need to know/do immediately (like before weekly reset in 6 hrs or so)? - Pain cage or wz (if its not gone already)

also U need to get both pyro and nana asap

[glass bay]

[wispy robin]

wdym
free 3 resos next patch
and lilith should be highest prio for them since she carry 4 teams

[calm panther]

no, nanami killed her, nanami, nanami, get nanami (not even kidding btw since nanami is also the tank for dante, on top of being the tank for lightning teams)

[dapper skiff]

But that's next patcg

[barren plank]

Should I R3 my Echo

[dapper skiff]

Current patch global ion team is truly brick

[tall cape]

...which nanami.. all of 'em?

[fluid gulch]

How much bc to get everything?

[shrewd cosmos]

New one, Nanami Startrail

[wispy robin]

are you going to ss3 selena
if no then not worth ss0 glacio is brick

[deft apex]

Coughing baby vs atomic bomb

[calm panther]

startrail

[true pivot]

imagine cw, who solos lightning wz if your garnet isnt invested enough

gets absolutely obliterated by nanami, who solos lightning wz if your cw isnt invested enough

[chilly trail]

Do clash reflection and ppc

[calm panther]

she's the new lightning tank and also the tank for dante

[shrewd cosmos]

U also need to get solace as well. tank + enabler for vergil

[obtuse hamlet]

If scire brick, I can brick her more by throwing her sig away so I don't need to use her

[wispy robin]

what bc
it's 3 reso for free and 3 more for 68rc

[tawdry glacier]

what does the guide sub menu on the bottom left do

[calm panther]

yeah, twice btw, you wanna get her twice, for ss3

[fluid gulch]

HUH?

Oh hell yeah

[wispy robin]

theres also 1 reso free if you pull on lilith banner with bc

[dapper skiff]

Need that R1 sig for dark swap

[true pivot]

best girl gives everyone the best patch

[dapper skiff]

Tf u mean

[fluid gulch]

I can FINALLY reso my kaleido

[shrewd cosmos]

Right... UUh crap. bow do I do that? i mean, im sorta cooked since I need next banners

[dapper skiff]

[true pivot]

kurai i got quest, if vs s+ lilith, is ss3 nanami still stronger in ion

[wispy robin]

if you pull on 2nd lilith banner you get enough coints for 1 reso in shop

[obtuse hamlet]

Ye I only have her at S0 r0 im not so sure about that

[calm panther]

you could get her from standard selector reset if you have her rn

[dapper skiff]

How much pulling do I need for them coins

[buoyant hornet]

Lmk if anyone has any tips
https://youtu.be/bd0_md33hjI?si=IMiSoB55SYeyKeFE

[calm panther]

unless you have someone else who's higher value in mind

[turbid bridge]

Clear out the 80 pull banner

[buoyant hornet]

This was a pretty good run tbh but I'll take any tips that might help with shakes wata tomfoolery

[coarse spire]

Does base S character selector come back every patch?

[shrewd cosmos]

would Qu count? cuz I started back in jan and have all char since jan to now. (and wanta)

[buoyant hornet]

Nope

[shrewd cosmos]

no

[dapper skiff]

Bruh

[true pivot]

[dapper skiff]

80 pulls for 1 more usb

omegalul

[deft apex]

But its free

[wispy robin]

you need 500 coins
you get 4 per pull + 250 as reward

[calm panther]

not really, you can get qu from a selector in selena patch

for free

[buoyant hornet]

@wispy robin does ishmael have any field time if she replaces empy or nah?

[shrewd cosmos]

hmm that is fair, but does solace have more value or luna for ss3?

[wispy robin]

so you need 60 pulls for usb

[wispy robin]

well obv
you can do ult every 2nd rot

[dapper skiff]

Pulling weapon banner twice already gave me 2 usb

No thanks

[deft apex]

[wispy robin]

i full htd my ish for a reason
she can manage to finish wave sometimes in fire

[calm panther]

first copy of luna has higher value than ss3 hanying, because otherwise you're screwed in void content, but yeah without ss3 hanying vergil is...

[shrewd cosmos]

i meant pyro, mb. also posted my stuff

[fluid gulch]

Is it that bad without SS3?

[dapper skiff]

Is her DPS really that good compared to 6ht SS0 sig empy?

[shrewd cosmos]

major debuff for ultimate slash

[wispy robin]

idk i got no empy sig
but resos alone should make ish far ahead

[dapper skiff]

Demn

[wispy robin]

5* empy vs r2 ish was 800k score boost

[fluid gulch]

What

Oh, screw you empy then

[barren plank]

Aw man

I think I might SS3 her but Im weighing my options between Selena Ish and Startrail SS3

[dapper skiff]

Does ish can use DD still even as amp ish?

[wispy robin]

glacio vs solo nana light score diff btw

[dapper skiff]

That sound interesting

[calm panther]

if you really wanna play vergil then yeah kinda, SS pyro is good for her teams, SS hanying is cope in ultima slash

[barren plank]

...huh?

[shrewd cosmos]

alr, Ill see later on then

[calm panther]

I'd still wait until we get their final kits tho

[wispy robin]

yes she can use any resos regardless
rydle was still getting better scores with double amp reso over shred with r2 ish with solo nana tho

[coarse spire]

How often does the base S rank selector reset

[calm panther]

once a year

[deft apex]

Ss3 selena or no glacio? Cooked game

[calm panther]

less for us until we're caught up with cn

[fluid gulch]

I pick no glacio

[deft apex]

U pick brick, we got it

[wispy robin]

3s r2 echo would probably make a big diff...
but it still wouldn't reach neearly close to ion or ice

[fluid gulch]

Selena gets SS0 no more

[near epoch]

Is making character ss hard

[tranquil bramble]

It's free

[fluid gulch]

No, to the point it's mandatory

[barren plank]

As a newbie yea kinda, as you progress it gets easier as you have less characters to SS

[deft apex]

What if my ion is cooked like glacio

[near epoch]

What about SSS+🔥

[tranquil bramble]

Uh...

[fluid gulch]

yeah, good luck

[tranquil bramble]

You're cooked

[calm panther]

also mandatory, baseline for any meta team

[deft apex]

Unless 3s lilith running 2s pyro works out well

[wispy robin]

2s pyro ion still highest scoring 2s team

[fluid gulch]

Imagine not having SS3 pyro

[tranquil bramble]

[near epoch]

We need MONEY

[tranquil bramble]

I got my Nanami

I wonder what the chances are of me getting SS6 Selena

[calm panther]

as a newbie you also get big surplus from outlier point which helps a lot

[near epoch]

Why I get many bcs

[wispy robin]

somehow it still can score higher than my ss3 score

[fluid gulch]

wtf

[near epoch]

My wife

[fluid gulch]

Literally makes no sense

[prisma citrus]

Are A units any good in this game?

[fluid gulch]

No

[calm panther]

1,125 skulls

[rose yew]

by 2s they also mean r2 on sig

[deft apex]

Unironically true

[prisma citrus]

[tranquil bramble]

I'm gonna do something dumb and use the next base banner selector on Pianissimo to get her from SS6 to SSS

[pine trellis]

whos best choice from this?

[dapper skiff]

[fluid gulch]

everyone is useless

[pine trellis]

gotcha

[fluid gulch]

Wait

[rose yew]

kimochi yokatta

[dapper skiff]

I mean I don't think ish has a decent off shield application

[fluid gulch]

Take 21:XXi

[dapper skiff]

Nana still superior

[pine trellis]

oh ok

[broken elk]

No 21

[rugged pebble]

Is SS0 parhelion > SS3 scire for dark tank role?

[tranquil bramble]

Ye

[calm panther]

no21 altho realistically you'd ideally get teddy and use ishmael as dark tank

[broken elk]

Daren quite old tbh

[wispy robin]

man i've legit got no use for glacio with my invest
the only teams it can beat are phys and ts

[tranquil bramble]

Talent deficit

[rose yew]

what's scire duration in meta so far i lost count

[fluid gulch]

Beating phys and ts on cn means you're 2nd worst

[rugged pebble]

My dark team next patch will be Lamia, Lilith and ish

[calm panther]

wait true lilith

i forgor, then yeah lilith ishmael

[broken elk]

Lilith dps

[fluid gulch]

Lilith come save my dark

[calm panther]

yeah my dark is in the gutter

[fluid gulch]

I can't put up with Lamia anymore

[broken elk]

Solo lilith with ish and luna

[fluid gulch]

She's so bad now

[rugged pebble]

Dark is hopeless

[wispy robin]

surely i'm going to get ss3 selena here

[broken elk]

Yes...

[tranquil bramble]

Yes.

[tranquil bramble]

Have you played her yet

[rugged pebble]

3 rot just to kill easiest difficulty Lilith 💀

[rose yew]

what

[shrewd cosmos]

21

[wispy robin]

is your dark fully invested
if no then good news for you lamia won't even be in a team

[barren plank]

From Piano selector, should I get SS3 Epitaph or SS3 Echo? (To farm SSS)

[wispy robin]

i'm literally having the same issue rn

i can't decide..

[rugged pebble]

Realistically wata since you can sss echo from vouchers

[barren plank]

Me neither

[calm panther]

what would be the full team

[barren plank]

What vouchers

[wispy robin]

snazz said ss3 qu was like 800k score diff

[barren plank]

Lilith is taking all my vouchers

[barren plank]

Wait wtf?????

Her SS3 doesn't look that big

[mighty tusk]

Just dmg

[vale raft]

Qu: Shukra

Skill - SSS

Sovereign Illumination

Level 1 - Unlocked at SS3

Qu: Shukra's Extra DMG Bonus increases by 25% for 8s during Into the Fray.

Level 2 - Unlocked at SSS

Upon casting Will Bearer or Mountain Caller, increases the Base DMG of the current attack by 50% for every 1 Inscription. Upon casting Snow Drifter, casting Will Bearer or Mountain Caller during the current Into the Fray will consume 1 Inscription so that the enhancements from Will Bearer and Mountain Caller on the next casts of Enlightened Soul and Sovereign's Presence can stack.

[barren plank]

How is that 800K dif then?

[mighty tusk]

No idea

[barren plank]

That's like 500K at most

[wispy robin]

nvm it wasn't 800k but still pretty huge

[rugged pebble]

One qu rot is like 9< seconds or smth so essentially doing 1.25 the damage

[tight pawn]

What's the rotation for ss3 lucia on ballard?

[calm panther]

btw

Is there anywhere I can turn to for calcs on this game?

[wispy robin]

idk if ss3 wata shred can give more than that

[rose yew]

what kind of calc we have a few spreadsheets

[calm panther]

yeah spreadsheets work, mostly so I can see damage calcs at different investments for different units

[wispy robin]

my issue with using it for echo is that if the dreams about feral are true then i won't have vouchers for echo anymore

[rugged pebble]

Oh

[atomic tartan]

nubby question. i just recently started and was able to grab lucia pyroath. for my blue ticket, i was told its resetting soon. should i target watanabe epitaph or luna oblivion? tried researching and those two were the best answers i could find from ppl

[calm panther]

that's useful too tho dw, I'm saving that

[rugged pebble]

Feral is pretty rlly old char by now tho

[coarse spire]

Oblivion first

[mighty tusk]

Just spend

[coarse spire]

BTW only spend bc on the theme banner

[buoyant hornet]

It makes her stronger than sss wanshi

[chilly trail]

Wata is free in 2 patch

[buoyant hornet]

It's a large dmg increase to an already hugely damaging kit

[barren plank]

Nyani

[rose yew]

I mean I have damage graph comparison for each rank upgrade for some unit

[atomic tartan]

thank you for the answer! yea i was debating since ppl said oblivion is also a DPS but she does a unique thing no one in the whole game can do which is deal with nihil content which im seeing as no one else really does lol

[tranquil bramble]

[calm panther]

oblivion cuz you can get wata for free in 2 patches from a selector

[atomic tartan]

ohh woah....i did not know about the free thingy either dang

[buoyant hornet]

Yeah doesn't look insane when you read it but it is

[chilly trail]

IN THE NEXT PATCH ALL OF THE FOLLOWING IS FREE

• S Crimson Weave
• CW’s Signature
• CW’s CUB
• S 21: Feral
• S Lilith Daemonissa
• Liliths Sig
• Liliths CUB
• 20 Lilith shards

[rugged pebble]

🗣️🔥💯

[buoyant hornet]

Kimika what did you use pianissimo selector for?

[barren plank]

What do I choose from that selector then

[calm panther]

it's a selector for everyone up to qu shukra, and watanabe is the best choice there

[barren plank]

He also doesn't know

[rugged pebble]

I alr have wata

[shrewd cosmos]

is lilith SS3 enough or needs SSS?

[rugged pebble]

Should probably go SS3 qu?

[buoyant hornet]

Tbh I'd still order it as wata ≥ qu but it also depends on any potential twists in CN before we reach the selector

[bleak mortar]

can i retry resonance if i get a bad stat?

[calm panther]

probably

[shrewd cosmos]

Yeah

[buoyant hornet]

Lol fair

[rugged pebble]

Sick

[atomic tartan]

im honestly really confused with the whole shards and free characters. from what im seeing, i only get free characters when i get those selectors or the current one is bianca stigmata off the Wandering Waves event right? shards are for like enhancing the character to unlock more passives, not for getting them right?

[wispy robin]

i'm still trying to figure it out
using on echo for 3s or for qu
but looking how brick ss0 glacio is i don't think echo going to change much at this point

[shrewd cosmos]

Also u want attack +15

[rose yew]

https://imgur.com/a/punishing-gray-raven-dmg-graph-pyro-whCIYLb

[rugged pebble]

Yea

[turbid bridge]

[calm panther]

you can use shards for getting chars too

[barren plank]

Did u make this

[calm panther]

50 shards = char

[rugged pebble]

But need 50

[rose yew]

mayhaps

[buoyant hornet]

Tbh echo will soon only be relevant in glacio so I'd say qu higher prio since she's probably too popular to get directly replaced soon (and might even get leap maybe)

[atomic tartan]

wait what.....so if i collect 50 of those inver-shards thingy i can get a whole character? omg

[buoyant hornet]

Physical amp is inevitable and it's likely to come well before an ice attacker

[atomic tartan]

i think i saw some inver-shard shop somewhere

[rugged pebble]

Isn't echo still physical amp meta

[calm panther]

First copy of a character = 50 shards value
Amount to get character with shards = 50 shards
amount of shards from getting a copy of a character you already own= 30

[rugged pebble]

Or is ish doing ISH things again

[wispy robin]

tbh qu is also questionable
when new ice amp released it will 99% kick qu out of team
while wata extra shred will always be relevat

[rugged pebble]

New ice amp would likely make her sub dps

[calm panther]

This is why getting 50 shards of a character is better than getting a straight copy, unless you don't own the char, then it's the same

[shrewd cosmos]

We love powercreep. honestly, Amps should NOT be making dps's become sub dps

[rugged pebble]

Actually isn't qu best gen 2 attacker in general?

[buoyant hornet]

Idk about kicking her out lol it'll make her less relevant but not irrelevant (unless they decide to make ice amp exceptionally broken for some weird reason)

[rugged pebble]

Lilith:

[shrewd cosmos]

Shes fair since i dont wanna get 🐟

[calm panther]

if they didn't you'd never swap off your dps at some point as it'd be a dps loss, and everyone but the dps would be qte bots

[deft apex]

Not before qu leap

[buoyant hornet]

Tbh both choices are very debatable but I still say echo is less futureproof

Plus ss0 glacio seems playable enough no?

[wispy robin]

i mean even if it's vera tier power level
i don't see much reason bringing qu in anymore if wanshi isn't that far behind in dmg so you would rather get qte bot to boost both amp and wanshi

[rugged pebble]

Most of the gen 2 gonna be replaced

[calm panther]

hyperreal:

[rugged pebble]

Other than maybe last 3 when gen 4 rolls around

[buoyant hornet]

Do you have wata ss3?

[rugged pebble]

So probably wata, qu will be most future proof

[wispy robin]

no

[buoyant hornet]

Seems like the least debatable out of the 3 idk

[deft apex]

Defunct at arrival

[wispy robin]

wish there was someone who could test wata ss vs ss3 score diff

[buoyant hornet]

Consider wata tbh

[buoyant hornet]

Yeahh

[vale raft]

Watanabe: Epitaph

Skill - SSS

Siege Break

Level 1 - Unlocked at SS3

Gains 1 Blaze Orb after casting Scorching Torrent. The effect of Watanabe: Epitaph's Scorching Invasion increases by 10%.

Level 2 - Unlocked at SSS

Acts faster when casting Thermal Erosion consecutively. Thermal Superconductivity can stack up to 6 times, and each stack's bonus on the Base DMG of Signature - Explosive Purge increases by 5%. After entering battle, the first successful Parry grants 1 extra Blaze Orb. The effect of Watanabe: Epitaph's Scorching Invasion increases by 10%. Reduces the cooldown of switching between characters by 3s.

[calm panther]

he has the best anims in the game I don't regret

[rugged pebble]

Best en dub

[calm panther]

that too

[buoyant hornet]

Best boyfriend

[calm panther]

Lee walked so wata could run

[zenith kettle]

kowloong needs more citizen, president qu demands you to repopulate

[calm panther]

he tanked the male debuff for him

[wispy robin]

ss3 qu still really baiting for that 6m+ ice score
ion + ice week could easily retain you legend

[deft apex]

Unfortunately that's selena cappricio, i dont make the rules

[buoyant hornet]

Ig ideally you could wait to see what comes after dmc but at the same time that's a lot of lost lifespan for whatever you choose lol

[tranquil bramble]

Wait two global patches and that'll change

[rugged pebble]

Panisimmo

[tranquil bramble]

Wait I just read your name you're like me

[hard grail]

Hi everyone, i never played punishing gray raven. I just joined this server to see if vergil is in the game, if yes i will download it right now. Wanted to know if it will be easy to obtain him as a brand new player too

[rugged pebble]

How do you spell

[past thicket]

[rugged pebble]

Not yet but get it now so you can actually save the currency to get Virgil

[wispy robin]

theres 60 days surely all of the options won't become outdated by that time

[past thicket]

tourist spotted smh

[hard grail]

can i reroll accounts on this game?

[rugged pebble]

Imagine fire tank gets powercreeped early again 🐟

[rugged pebble]

Fym

[hard grail]

i could do that when he comes if its possible

[deft apex]

Pianissimo sucks

[calm panther]

Realistically, whatever you pick, will die very soon, it doesn't really matter

[tranquil bramble]

[deft apex]

They stripped selena out of most of her defining characteristics

[buoyant hornet]

Yeahhhh

All I can say for sure though is that alisa is the least worth because new amp wave + I expect a fast rate at which they'll have to replace affix units now that every affix has a functional team

[broken elk]

Vergil mains:

[tranquil bramble]

Never let this man cook again

[past thicket]

could always ss3 qu

[deft apex]

Pianissimo doesnt exist.

[zenith kettle]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/emojis/1154393445113274399.gif?size=48&quality=lossless&name=clueless

[still moat]

could always eos

[past thicket]

true

[rugged pebble]

Just play the damn game bro

[zenith kettle]

ded gaem uninstall

[tranquil bramble]

I don't know how to feel about that name

[broken elk]

True

[wispy robin]

yea after i saw my glacio score....
yea no way im investing into this crap anymore

[ebon adder]

is getting two mbp a or ferals bp next patch more worth it

[buoyant hornet]

Glacio isn't working well for you??

[calm panther]

why would you do that, there's no 5050s here, just farm currency for him

[hard grail]

some games give free currency to pull for units at the start (usually 10-30). sometimes you can also erase your account data or create another account until you pull the unit you want with the freebies you get at the start

[calm panther]

also the chances for earlies are astronomically low so you could reroll all you want, you wouldn't get much value from it

[wispy robin]

above glacio below solo nana light
ss r1 selena ss r0 echo 3s r1 wanshi

[calm panther]

not the amount of value you'd get from starting now at least

[zenith kettle]

I know right its great

[calm panther]

so you can build his team before he comes out

[rugged pebble]

??? Just play weeklies and story you'll get enough currency easily

[barren plank]

Does this mean I should get Selena SS3 over Ish

[tranquil bramble]

Were you using the Glaciation stance

[rugged pebble]

Patches are sped up now so you get more currency per patch

[buoyant hornet]

Wtf lmao

Is this your first glacio week? Maybe it has to do with optimizations or just a bad week for glacio?

[hard grail]

so if i want to pull for him i will get it guaranteed if i have enough?

[rugged pebble]

So that means by end of next patch most people can easily have 20k+

[calm panther]

yes

[wispy robin]

ss3 selena obviously far better value cause multiple teams

[barren plank]

Wb her vs Startrail SS3
Startrail doesm't have much QoL but 3 teams

[calm panther]

every month you lose of playing the game rn is 3 months down the drain worth of currency

[hard grail]

oh ok, sry im used to it being 50/50 and stuff like that

[wispy robin]

nah the rot is beyond brainded and barely diff from phys
the bili ss0 vids aren't getting much better scores either

[calm panther]

dmc comes in 3 to 4 months

so that's 9 months or 12 months worth of currency

[hard grail]

how much of the currency do i need

[calm panther]

15k to guarantee a char

[rugged pebble]

10,500 Black cards

[buoyant hornet]

Tbf your alisa is ss0 r0 meanwhile your lightning amp is a new gen big buffing support

[rugged pebble]

Buy one get one free up to twice

[sharp dune]

Should I spend cards on nanami: startrail or save them for later?

[rugged pebble]

100% rate up

[buoyant hornet]

Btw glacio alisa able to double rot without dlt or?

[buoyant hornet]

Try pulling for her asap

[wispy robin]

i mean i could go in invest into 3s r2 alisa...
for it to not even get me 5m score

[calm panther]

also if you start now, in the standard banner you can select a character to guarantee from your standard pulls (there's recent limited chars here) which is going to reset in a few days, so, use that up before it gets reset

[wispy robin]

nah dlt is only dmg buff

[hard grail]

is 2B in it?

[calm panther]

no

[rugged pebble]

No 🐟

[buoyant hornet]

Nah every buff in strong affixes like ion/glacio is very valuable so I definitely expect a huge raise from 3s and resos but once again, not the most futureproof out there at this point

[calm panther]

I'd recommend this girl, hanying solacetune, since she's a teammate for vergil

[past thicket]

based

[barren plank]

No NieR is gone foreevr

[barren plank]

Why not oblivion

[hard grail]

oof

[barren plank]

Get oblivion now and solacetune next patch

[calm panther]

yeah true

[buoyant hornet]

Would you estimate it makes dlt worth using over amp reso?

[calm panther]

oblivion now solacetune later

[wispy robin]

amp resos should be higher prio

[buoyant hornet]

I mean unless they're low on blue tix I'd say hanying first since she can carry her entire team

[chilly glade]

Question, why Oblivion more important to pull? What is worth for?

[buoyant hornet]

Yeah figured

Btw what's your ion score/invest on average?

[still moat]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/951972847675387989/1258208958339092543/attachment-1.gif

[barren plank]

If they're new i would rather get Oblivion so they have an actual team by Ish release

[rugged pebble]

Fair

[wispy robin]

6.7m ss3 pyro 3s r2 lilith
6.5m with ss3 lilith

[calm panther]

it's easier to get a full team for her, especially since her tank is coming out next patch and lilith is free and makes a full team

[past thicket]

https://media.discordapp.net/attachments/867718398208245761/1134169233748668586/gh.gif

[barren plank]

Ishmael, Oblivion's new best teammate is coming out next patch so it'd be good to have her then

[calm panther]

meanwhile with hanying you're waiting to complete the team

[shrewd cosmos]

Most versitile character (can use any amp or tank),
also currently the only void character
makes the void team work (after ish patch)
good dps
also a new gen frame

[buoyant hornet]

Yeah that's why I specified the low tix thing but even then tbh I'd probably prio hanying because of ppc

[barren plank]

Void can do neutral element

[buoyant hornet]

I wonder what the average 222.3 111 score would be

[shrewd cosmos]

Oh, it can?

[barren plank]

Yes

[wispy robin]

[buoyant hornet]

I mean yeah but there's other options unlike skych who's locked to hanying otherwise brick

[honest pagoda]

Is memory position have any effect?(like slot1: heisen,slot2:herechell,then swap slot 1 and 2,is there any difference other than it swap?)

[buoyant hornet]

This affix is built different bruh

Ig glacio is only really comparable at high invest because it assumes sss echo and selena ss3 or up

[chilly glade]

what's new gen frame? I haven't heard of it for a while 😅

[barren plank]

The row matters for stat minmaxing but the individual memory number from there doesn't

[tranquil bramble]

Where is this anyways

[dapper skiff]

I have a feeling for you

👉 👈

[ebon adder]

isnt it the same with ts

[shrewd cosmos]

gen 3 frames. which is every frame after wanta (not including him)

[still moat]

https://tenor.com/view/this-server-is-so-ass-gif-9313622744888633375

[calm panther]

you usually wanna get memories on T shapes since it makes sharing easier (mostly relevant for qte bots, you won't be sharing on other chars)

[honest pagoda]

Wht is stat minmaxing?

[barren plank]

Getting max stats possible (atk)

[wispy robin]

ss0 selena is just so ass she can only do nuke ult once in 2 swaps and her dancing ult still do 0
and she can only do 1 rot per swap
compare it to 4 ult pyro even at ss0

[calm panther]

some memories give lower stats than other. the difference is... pmuch nothing, but like, it doesn't cost anything to get the order that gives you the most stats so why not do it

[buoyant hornet]

Comparing an actual playable affix at baseline invest with still higher than average score vs. truetrash which is straight up unplayable at f2p invest isn't accurate

[buoyant hornet]

How's your fire vs. physical average score? I'm starting to wonder if I should save blue selector for selena or something

[calm panther]

the top and bottom row give different stats, so you wanna put the memories that give less stats on the row that is less useful for the character

[barren plank]

Ts is actually dogwater I dont wanna do it next week 😭

And phys in the main zones too imma have to do double Soalcetune mald

[wispy robin]

selena is def best choice for scores alone with 0 skill required
pyro only good if you want to have fun doing 5 ult in ion that's it

[calm panther]

wait physical wz next?

[barren plank]

Phys AND ts

[calm panther]

oh no

[buoyant hornet]

Yeah especially now that vera locks Lucia into the same rot as ss0 I agree

[wispy robin]

pyro even barely gets much use of her ss3 post vera

[honest pagoda]

My memory:
Slot1:herscel
Slot2:herscel
Slot3:herscel
Slot4:herscel
Slot5:heisel
Slot6:heisel

I saw someone using heisel on slot 4 and 6,should i change?

[solar creek]

Do Pyroath and Dante have the same team

[chilly trail]

Nihil phys, mixed zone ts dark

[calm panther]

no but kinda but no

[buoyant hornet]

Yeah it's just some extra ion stuff + having to get a headache with qte nuke management

[chilly trail]

For aesthetic

[wispy robin]

for fun factor pyro is still >>>>>>>> anyone else tho
literally nothing comes even close to ion in terms of fun gameplay

[solar creek]

Uhm ok

[honest pagoda]

So its doenst matter?

[calm panther]

dante uses nanami and vera, pyroath uses nanami only if you play ion, but for her regular fire teams she uses watanabe and vera when she comes out

so like there's some overlap, but they don't use the same teams

[solar creek]

Ouh ok cause ppl r telling me to get Pyroath but I wanna use Dante when he comes out and their both fire

[chilly trail]

Number dont matter, only row for minmaxing

[calm panther]

they're good for different content, dante is pretty weak in fire content ATM (subject to change) and he's only really good in ignition teams

[solar creek]

Well I have Nanami alr I’ll get Vera next after Ish

[swift vortex]

would wantanambe and vera be a good team for dante

[honest pagoda]

Im kinda confuse😭,wht is the row?

[deft apex]

How come fire gets 1:26 on IB and Dark solo gets 1:29

[coarse spire]

How much is ss vs sss pyroath difference

[chilly trail]

Top bottom

[deft apex]

Cringeoath

[stray siren]

Reminder not to skip Nanamid

[calm panther]

not really unfort

[calm panther]

she's spectakuru

[swift vortex]

so who shold i go for for him

[calm panther]

nanami

and vera when she comes out

[honest pagoda]

Like 3 slot on top and 3 slot on bottom?

[chilly trail]

Yes

[gilded flint]

Fire Vera does more dmg than pyroath???

[calm panther]

keep in mind that this info im saying with what I have available to me rn and it could change once it makes it to live servers

[buoyant hornet]

Why nana in dark? Is the field worth sacrificing the +20% wanshi shred?

[swift vortex]

the problem is im new and the event ends soon

[coarse spire]

What mode is that

[chilly trail]

Usually memories with highest attack go to bottom

[wispy robin]

she shortens pyro rot
to need to use slash move anymore

[calm panther]

she'll be back next patch because of anniversary

[stray siren]

My wanshi is SS

[swift vortex]

ok

[stray siren]

[honest pagoda]

Sooo,should i change my memory to looklike the other?(heisel on slot 4 and 6)

[stray siren]

Warzone Hero

[buoyant hornet]

Ah ic so 3s wanshi would be better here?

[stray siren]

Yes

[buoyant hornet]

Have you tried comparing this comps to normal swap comps?

[chilly trail]

Your preference

[swift vortex]

like the one thats in right now

[calm panther]

yes, anniv reruns all units with 100% rateup

[wispy robin]

ss3 lilith 3s wanshi vs r0 lamia r3 ish
with wanshi i was getting far better scores
r0 lamia is really brick tho maybe dlt would make big diff

[coarse spire]

Whens anni

[calm panther]

next patch, in a few days

[still moat]

this would be wet dream come true to play in legend

[swift vortex]

ok so then i will be able to get her i already have a 30 pity

[calm panther]

yep, you'll be able to easily

[still moat]

6m, 6m, 6m

[chilly trail]

Did u just recommend him to get old vera???

[still moat]

actually nah 5m fire i think

[buoyant hornet]

One of my accs has her r1 I'll lyk how the comparison goes

[calm panther]

no, nanami

[stray siren]

Yes, that's what I'm doing.

Dark: Lilith + Lamia + Ish = 300w
222.1 111 111

Dark: Lilith + Nanami + Luna 330w
2.122 111 111

I need to adjust the rotation on the normal team

[calm panther]

I recommended new vera when she comes out

for dante teams