#📨・meta-help
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guys forget about vergil and dante
this is the real OP unit
https://x.com/mmr_waai/status/1916122764999856253
Im here for the DMC collab, should I just wait to restart until that happens or is that not gonna be a for a hot minute
Is it most beneficial to buy the pass on day 1?
yeah its still global acceleration and we get a ton of free stuff next patch
this was proven false
where r u back logging 
global acceleration?
yeah i think i'll need to farm easy difficulty first
Should i wait until next patch then?
well think of it this way
in this game you can't just have dmc units
you need the units that will be able to support them as well
it's the 1st msg i saw when i logged in lol
LOL
consolidated patches or whatever you want to call it
basically 3x rewards for literally everything rn
discord moment
if you just want to play the dmc characters you won't stay for long
the game wont be fun for you long term
Nah Im coming back cause that got my hyped but I love the other chars
which char to select from selena selector?
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cause there are three patches happening simutaneously right now with two 5* and one 4* coming out
we don't use 4* and 5* here
I actually probably dont plan on playing the chars its just that the collab brought me back to being interested in the game
it's A and S ranks
that sucks
im here for the hot women
you know what i mean
to comfortably play this game and complete all the content you need the guys as well
But I just wanted to ask and see if I should wait until next patch before starting in case rerolling ist he correct account decision for me
pls tell
as long as they dont have to be the main dps
physical is full of hot women
can i join anyone's guild 😮 help
you try it yourself and you see
i mean there isnt a downside to starting right now, you get a free selector that resets next patch too
The downside would be if the new characters next patch are reroll worthy
compared to the ones currently up
black card is pulling currency right?
you can absolutely grind out any character you want next patch you wont need to reroll
literally all debut s-ranks are meta
bet ill reinstall the game and hop back in here for questions after

hell yeah
is v2 of dmc beta out yet 

is there a mentor system in this game
Lao ur light is goat
like hi3 has
yeah
do i have to keep pulling for her?
i also made some progress but idk if i did was any good
Do we need to buy the encrypted and top secret intel separately?
we're on the same boat sup dude
naur it wouldve been 10m if i was goated 
oh hi
this patch is a good time to come back.. since the free S-rank target [you can choose up to Hanying] using basic banner (blue tickets) might reset next patch..
so that's 1 free target S-rank going byebye
idk if my units are any good tho
Ur highest with 3s invest isnt, my lao 
i tried maxing out lee entropy but idk about others
Lee is out dated
I wonder is 9m possible with ss0 feral, but caught up reading story atm
we're still progressing, tho u can try to make a team with the same elements,
that's what i heard, tho its outdated, it's still good as long as ur having fun too yk
new account? you can use him for now
8,6 is already luck run on my acc
Well its from the selector and i read the guide says i should get lee so
Can someone answer this?
if you are just starting luna is probably the best character to pull from beginner rn
she will basically replace any dps you currently have and you can basically use whatever supports with her as she doesnt have dedicated ones yet (except physical)
ye
Is this current version banner good?
have u tried cw lead?
Like worth to pull?
The guide you used is certainly outdated
Which cub is better for Alisa? Her signature one or Linhsha?
i forgot what is encrypted and top secret
well its from the pins so
@bold quail can you answer my question?
Ye super worth
Which one
@bold quail the battle pass rewards
oh
if you dont care about competitive modes, then you can clear the story with any units..
but for end-game content, you will want to build up your roster with meta units for easier clears
The themed banner for Pyroath and Nanami Startrail is worth to pull
Do we need to buy them separately?
Eh thats make sense, cw sometimes cant clean clear a wave 
i mean, i might go for the long term here, so what do i do now?
im being srs
nanami lead caps me at 9.46m
i would wait until next patch cause we should be getting a 6* feral sig in the battle pass, I haven't bought the pass so I don't know if you need to buy them seperately
Ye it's already outdated
just continue playing.. pull for every debut S-rank unit (60 pity 100%)
Let me try then 
cw lead gave me 9.88
aight noted
Same planning
Maybe you're doing something wrong?
magic
i wonder why its still on the pins then
F2p power fr
try to get Nanami Startrail during this patch.. skip sig weapon banners for now since you need to get more units first

i mean i also kinda want to save for the dmc collabs since thats the reason why i decided to play but sure. tho idk if i have enough by then
Just don't bother with things that are already a few months old
nanami is looking like she will stay more meta for slightly longer as the new vera fram might out dps her (almost def will)
huh, okay then
don't spend Black Cards
the rest are fine
i mean i havent spend a single BC so
yea i heard the dmc banner are going to use bc so yea nice
You'll get enough to pull for them cuz they'll probably come in August
It's not outdated, there's literally not a single s rank that's good in the 5 s rank selector
i heard its around august or sept so okay then, i'll try to farm it
is it not gonna just use the limited character pulls or is it like the skins pull where its a seperate currency that you need black cards for
U can choose anyone it doesn't matter
Lee is prolly recommended cuz he's somewhat capable of doing decent dmg
Lee is actually kinda fun to play so i dont really regret it 
But it rlly doesn't matter, ur gonna get a better s rank soon anyways
aight
you should be able to get them all at s0 easily, if you want ss or ss3 you probably should save for a bit in advance just to make sure (maybe like 20-30k bc per chara cause I heard they were gonna be discounted)
now that idk, cuz im also new LEL
i asked that last night, and one of the gigachad told me its gonna use bc
So close
Yet so far
well everything uses bc
welp...
Wtf is that tb score
yeah i saw someone calculated how much would i need to max out both dmc unit and i heard its around 77.5k ish
sounds about right
that sounded alot and it doesnt gave me much confidence on getting that many, but i'll try
i thought it was three units tho
did they just forget about nero or someone else
so many new player because of dmc collab 
Lmao, deadweight
No nero 
xd
no 
its not if its giving me more score
what rewards can instructor gift?
Too much new 
rn you can easily get like a couple thousand bc a week cause of the patches
tho in my defense, i actually want to try PGR years ago but since my phone is so potato back then, i couldnt even download the entire 20gb data so 
the dmc collab reminds me to try the game out so i did
yea dmc is cracked
memories mostly iirc but i think it just unlocks a bunch of quests that give other stuff
Ye idk how your score is higher with Cw lead probably magic 
well i dont even know who is dante and vergil so idc
How good is swap compared to solo
Not playstyle, score wise
gasp
can they give cogs?
and how much if they can?
new player good to they can get whole lightning team if they manage to get nanami this patch
7m-ish vs 10m
around there for sss0 feral

based
Hm
cogs you will accumulate stupid fast later lmao
i have like 40m and I barely touched them like a few months ago
Right I should've asked someone with ss feral 
as far as I remember it doesn't give a ton
peak
Idk whether Luna + Lilith is better or cw + feral
rydlao got 5.8m with swap 322
pgr is the fastest daily gacha game so
debatable i think I can do my zzz dailies faster
Depends if you mald at Wz 
what mode gives the most commander xp ?
im just trying to cruise thru the story, im on 4-12, i heard 5-7 is what i should aim to start for the phantom thingy
i ditch zzz
So solo is better
too much copy of hi3
What team should I focus on as a beginner or for the new collab comming up
he has ss0
solo is definitely not better
as long as u can do 2 rot cw within amp timer
daily quests, the weekly dice game thing in the bottom left of the daily quest menu, and spending a stupid amount of serum
some people say get luna on standard now and its up to you after that
Hmm
im talking about oblivion
luna or oblivion 
the last collab with multiple characters made them their own best team with each other so you shouldn't worry too much about that team for right now
Get luna oblivion on the standard selector
so i can just use these 60ml serum thingy right, or should i save those serums for a specific thing ? if so what ?
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Click it
hometeyaro
Ok no problem
It's also in beginners guide and FAQs in pinned message
just follow this and then make your decision
Ok thank you
There's a lot of useful thing you can check in pinned message as a beginner
also since nana has enough dmg to kill most waves
it will be better to run cw lead so that she can finish the later waves off
Recommended to do so
vergil cannot work with any void/nihil units
save the ones with infinite time (to make the number bigger) and spend the ones that run out that you get from daily login and quests wheneveer
Thank you
and mostly spend those on the simulated siege thing or whatever its called that gives you the blue credits for the shop
echo sig is important or nah?
She needs a 6* weapon at least
But if you're a newbie, you'll get a free 6* weapon selector that has bow in it
U can use it for alisa
probably focus solacetune first tho
Any 6* bow will work on alisa
if you don't have hers or stigmata
i have solactune already
is fulgor any good, i kept getting her shard, and now considering to get her
can i stack this or it gone in the next banner ?
Save for next patch?
then i mean go for it
definitely will make her a lot strongeer
It can stack
well i have problem on my echo
It won't go away
She does lightning, but considering Nanami startrail is currently debuting and she does Waaayyy better job as a lightning dps, Yata is kinda whatever
she's the free 4* for this patch you will get her to sss+ guaranteed
she is a decent dps if you wanna use her early game for now
but like if you get any s rank dps replace her
i cant use my physical team that well cause i dunno
Of course it's physical and it always has problems
this is my echo
I didn't even bother with my base S echo anymore
is this even the right wata rot
so idk which one's gonna be good for me to take ? cuz i haven't learn any tanks that are good... can anyone suggest smt ?
probably ss over 6*

other than QTE
is there a benefit of putting an A-rank on team?
like i got lucia pyro if i put A-rank Bridget - Ardeo will that benefit me in anything?
basically doesn't matter
you can save it for later if you ever need a weapon for a character for a budget tank or smth
SS so she can have field time
are you lacking in hypertune/resonances?
No
For some reason new Sigs are redder than older ones
me done hypertune and resonance
I just made whatever tf digestible by anyone for rotation guide
oh

that's strange
I see
BP should be at around 7.2k
is it worth it to invest in the free bianca they give us?
ardeo is a good qte buffer, she shreds fire res iirc
basically having ardeo with pyroath will make pyroath do more damage (also put ardeo on a support set)
I am not doing wata fast rot for a "tutorial"
Use cottie instead if solo Hanying for better rotation
Nobody understands that shi lmao
just wait for selena
also wdym yomm rot, thats not the ss0 rot i was doing
oh crap im starting to get weaker than the recommended bp

1- what color to put ardeo
2- what is a support set?
Bianca is really bad so don't bother
shes the current "dps" for the physical team so at least give her some memories but I wouldn't pull sig or invest skulls in cause of selena
does my resonance stay?
That's what I've learn from your vids tho
No
Ye dlt?
okies, i'l just wait for selena
i did a 1r basic then swap out
oh
Harmo
on your pattons yea
When you switch memories, you will have to re-resonate the new ones and HT them as well
support set is a set that buffs your team, like shredding resistance or straight up buffing damage
as far as I know it shouldnt matter which slot your ardeo is as long as pyroath is in the right slot
you only need to change patton to cottie temporarily
no but it's what i would expect for ss0 + r2
Idek if I still have a non harmo sig to show u the diff, I harmoed my glory sig a while ago 
does ultima slash warzone work with only hanying
Nahh bro
is your unit sss+?
no
solacetune, stigmata, echo
Uhhhh how fast can be stigmatas rotations?
Want to use to kill off a wave with like 2 sec left
That's horrendous shi 
oh r2
then rank up if you want more bp
have you levelled up your promote + levelled up all your skills?
because it should be higher
echo still no leap right? so if i don't invest bianca then i'll just stick to normal phys 😔
Show huaxu
does server region matter
Not enough time 
should i put ardeo on lead and when game starts switch to lucia to attack and raise her counters or no?
her leap will just be for physical and primarily glaciation
yea hero
Asia is the easiest and has the most active players
wait who's the next ultima slash unit
your skills?
max too
all level 18 besides your core passive which should be 25
vergil
Just send huaxu bro
what the hell is that
pgr helper site

oh
probably just pyroath start and lead, it's not worth to have ardeo onfield at all

On nyo he doesn't know huaxu
im new player
Oh
i start oblivion patch
@pure fern With a Sig+ Maxed Skills, level and promotion + maxed Memos fully resonated and HT + SS = around 7k BP, hitting 7.2k will require some resonance on Sig, or SS3
no it should be higher for ss3
like 7.3 or 7.4
my ss0 hanying with r2 is at 7.2k
yeah right, I refrenced by Balter but she doesn't have Sig
what is ht?
Hypertune
hypertune which you alr did
oh
who can i put on lucia pyro team other than Bridget - Ardeo
new to game don't know a lot of things
i already max it
the only thing I can think of now is border/sequence pact
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what will happen next patch?
Pretty soon
like literally any other fire character that isn't an attacker
About 2 weeks?
Yes

don't have any...
i see thanks
then teddy like the otheer guy said
Daamn 6 infinitas awaken already
wait for vera
what
isn't vera in like several months
Border pact
is that good?
That's great
2
That's what ur lacking for bp
Too many gosu
good morning gph, how we doing today

very for a new player
oh i see thanks
also
ss0 luca boom:
1st swap: (1e)
swap in > ba > hold ult
3 reds > ba > hold ba > tap ult
hold ba (till 1/4) > tap ult
1 red > ba > swap out
2nd swap: (1e1s)
swap in > hold ult
2 reds > hold ba > tap ult
hold ba (till 1/4) > tap ult
2 reds > hold ult
1 red > hold ba > hold ult
2 reds > basic > swap out
at around 8 seconds left: (idk how viable is a 3s end but ill still put this here)
swap > 1 red
basic > hold ult > hold ult
hold basic > 3 reds > basic > hold ult
2 reds > hold basic > hold ult
make sure to level these up @pure fern
how much cancerous is stronghold rn or its ez with the new units
Ez
You'll get oneshot so be careful
yea i did
Thinking we'll need gph2 because of the amount of newbies coming our way
dang i havent touched stronghold too long lmaoo
I have rich experience getting one shot
Old ahh teams
where zex when you need him
bro farts dust for how old he is
Guys need help
Zex is back
Where is zex 2?
how about your orb and special skills
How to do hanying solo in skych boss chaos ppc
Where is zex (3)
ok that should do
Im struggling so hard rn
yea i already max that
2 rotations
18 or 19 (18+1)?
what if r0 
Oh ok but what about balter
wait lemme see
Yomm lao rot, trusted 

I need to finish the chaos ppc in 30s
you really just need alisa with lingya and if your solacetune has dlt you're good to do 2 rots
is having the new vera at ss + sig much better than sss soleater
Then no chance 
Balter is no longer used in ppc
I have but it still not enough to defeat him
same buffs
she deals more dmg tho
Because she also does dmg
except hell skych
Than just support
What should I do?
18 only
balter?
yup border pact/sequence pact it is
Bianca Stigmata
that should get you the rest of the way
Biance stigma
i see thanks
I don't use her in Hell either 
would be nice if there's a weapon reso that slightly increase energy gain from each attack/orb 
Can Daren apply the 5% EDR shred from qte
Yes
whatever
Ofc
Just use cottie 
what rank is your hanying
Ss0
not enough 
I'd like to spam 8 ults in 10 second
Wait what's ur hell time
ok and what time do you get in hell
@pure fern Considering your previous question, yeah you should grab Alisa's sig.
29
U don't have balter or what
Balter 5*
lol yup expected

im still thinking since she is old unit
with balter you can get 23s
22
22
Ohh noted
oh lol
Hey guys how to buy 4 star wep or smth? I wanna unequip a wep from an outdated character to salvage but cant do so
She won't be replaced for a good while I think, if anything Ayla as an Amp or Feral will be replaced first
go farm coop for a weapon
And Physical is too crippled without it
ohh
and it is already bad enough

hand it over
ss0 will be enough if you're f2p
no
which vid did you learn it from, also people were talking about the ss3 rot, not the ss0
i wanna ss3 her i think since she eat more balls right?

i forgot SS nanaknight solo build. is it 4sig 4cottie?
4 sig 4 heisen still
heisen
okay thanks
Sss alisa or SS posible ?
4 sig 4 heisen
sss alisa r2
Mine SS r1 
3s
Fund me dazzalao
Fund me dazzwhel
Fund me

Fk whel
daily reset is here btw 
what
so is pyroath gameplay combo basically
- use red + basic and yellow + basic to charge up small bar
- small bar full, hold ult to go ground ult mode
- do step 1 again, but when big bar full, hold basic to get star
- tap ult for sky ult mode, basic until full bar, hold basic and immediately ult
is this correct
Where daily eos
Okay that's cool
U whel
wha
no
Pyroath rotation may change depends on what investment you have on her
If you have 5* weapon you're stuck to one rotation only
But if you have 6* signature weapon and deadline timing, u can consistently extend her rotation to double ult per swap
What is your invest

so uh... 80 won't hurt right ?
pslpslpslsplslpslspls pls someone say yes
it wont
It will
Damn bros wasting BC
Have you played FOS Rating Committee in training menu?
Just 1 more stage y'know
yea
it won't if you buy monthly pass 
oh wait ur right
unfortunately you will lose all of your bc and not be able to get any more characters because of this reckless spending you are currently doing
probably 5* wep and no more investment, im saving pulls
also when i get her star i immediately wanna eclipse ult asap right
LOL
With SS rank pyro then yeah
future me crashing out
ok thanks
Good, luna deserved it
dont listen to this guy 
ogmogmogmogmgomg imma get luna after this fos thingy
nuh uh im not trusting no luna simps 
Can someone recommand me a beginner video or site to help me, i just started the game and i'm a bit lost
i am

I spent 10 bc on standard and I can say with full confidence that my account was ruined so bad I had to restart
um i like dante and vergil more but, LUNA WORKS FOR NOW
80bc not 80% chance
is SSS the point where i stop getting mechanic upgrades and just raw multiplier upgrades onward? how much dupes is SSS?
why is there so many new starters today
i play pgr because of luna
based and oblivion pilled
dmc collab
4
Probably because of the recent accident
i just downloaded the game today because of the dmc collab lmao
"haaai"
"what do u like"
"dante and vergil" 
And yes, beyond 3s just multiplier
okay should I reroll? I havent played in a hot minute
1 base + 4 dupes
ok got it thanks
Same 
wth
m*le gacha release actually works and doesn't bring about riot? 
omg is that stell from popular game zenless impact rail 3rd
Luna > all
this game doesnt need reroll or soemthing

its literally vergil and dante they're straight up the exception
I AM A STORM THAT IS APPROAAAAACHINGGGG PROVOOOKINGG >
Who should I buy first and second?
nah you got my goat no21 so youre good
ive never heard of a gacha game that doesnt benefit from rerolliung
meanwhile the other company receives death threats
then now you heard it
well now you have
should i do it
Donate and virgil, the guys from pgr
r we talking bout nikke or smth
tbh I forgor the name
I just know it happened
dante and vergil? the guys from lombus comapny?
Go ahead
How does that even work? Pulls are limited and the new units are always meta, so how is rerolling not beneifical on a year old account

danteh
donate 😭
And also someone said there was a new player event going on?
但丁
oh yea what memo for cw then cottie to 4pc it?
Vante and dergil
because you havent spent enough currency to waste anything
you basically finished the tutorial and stopped so you should be good to keep going
level 41 is the tutorial?
3s?
it's not that new tho it was added half a year ago to global
ss
close enough to it
honestly like the first 80 levels are kinda a tutorial you don't gain sentience until you reached lvl 90 or so
Have this guide and follow it
but yea pgr doesnt need to reroll or you will suffer
Good
is fulgor and luna good teammates ? or no ? idk
someone rerolled and got 5 meta S unit within 80 pulls 
Please refrain from posting your pulls in professional gph
Do it in #🌞・trophy-room
reroll or not they'll be suffering anyway 💔💔
Kz mod fr
thats what i wanted to say why reroll they will suffer soon
does getting more crimson thingy gives u more reward at the end of cursed waves?
so better accept the fact
Idk we had it overflow now so why not
But also she qte bot for u with ss0 r1 nanaknight
there is a reward for getting certain endings and the one with like 90 crimson is like a 1.2x mult for that so if you want
fulgor and luna oblv good teammates ?
Why is rerolling suffering
too long
too much time for minimal rewards
can i get any unit I want on the current banner and future banners without swiping?
because there's alr a lot of selectors for beginners
yea
1 character per patch
play the game daily mhm
no
use teddy and basically any other tank or amp with her
alr nice, i got teddy
but isnt there like numerous chars per patch
No?

right now yes but you get inflated rewards to compensate so you still get everyone
the reward is x2 or x3
1 patch is always 1 character for years now
temporary
it returns back to 1 per monthly after November
We have multiple because we're in synchronization version with multiple patches
But that also give your 2x or 3x more income
I see, so should I just be doing story and using my pulls on Lucia
rumors said it will end after selena patch
This is crazy 🧱
basically
not even november at this point
we're caught up by like 2 patches
weekly and daily only story doest count x2 or x3
Your weeklies alone can afford 12 pulls already
Or maybe more
yeah i heard like two more sync patches after ishmael patch
one 3x one 2x
back to poverty patch even sooner
yea 😢
You don't know about the filler patches they're adding to implement the new element?
When this sync end
how to get target weapon r&d ticket ?? is it only from bc ?
End my suffering 
i just dropped my chips everywhere
sad
more time to save for me idm 
Only from bc conversion
Spender territory
wheres that new selector people were talking about
oh crap... save for dante & vergil or go for luna's weapon
i mena dmc is still a while right 🙂 imma spend some for luna right 😮
F2p shouldn't bother with pulling sig unless you know what you're doing
Neither
Always prioritize character first
Present character and upcoming one
Weapon Banner is permanent after debut
is the reason why many new player
wait so who do i prio ?
oh right...
No point rushing
pull the new characters as they come out
get vergil first
Dante is free
so nanami startrail or lucia pyro ?
and start building up teams with dorms and vouchers and wz and other stuff
yes
Since we're like atleast 2 weeks more for next version with new S rank, get both pyroath and startrail first and save up 15k bc at minimum
There are also good banner next version
alr appreciate that ❤️
both but if you're lacking choose one i prefer nanami if i am newbie
Can be considered for newbies to pull
i mean nanami my goat but pick who you want first you should be able to get them both with new player rewards
y'all think cw is gonna be powercrept soon
W answers
She already outdamage by a tank
does getting more cookie/saving it gives more reward too?
nanami will get a whole team next patch for free
as in umbra team? 
so using bp vouchers to sss is pretty much a waste hmm
the 40 pull any s rank selector that @dire widget used on luna is resetting next patch
oh icic, i mean i alr got it ig
where do you see that at
look at the rewards screen at the end and see what gives points cause I dont remember everything
thats standard banner
under standard banner there should be a selector for s rank 100% up with like 20 different characters on in
Yup, u have better character to prioritize
nothing in cn huaxu site yet 
we can get uhh lilith + 20 shards for free right, that's 30 more with ppc, so just need to voucher 70?
oh this?
wanshi's done
Your priority should be something like
SS wanshi > SS3 wanshi > SS3 Lilith > SSS Wanshi > SSS Lilith > SSS Alisa/ kaleido
yeah that
it resets with ishmael patch
i would go for luna from that she is the best meta pick (so of course I didn't do that lmao)
I was looking at Lamia or Feral, before i quit Feral was just about to come out
Feral is free next patch
We're getting free feral next patch
lamia is getting powercrept in damage asw next patch with lilith
so i go all in on lilith next patch and save vouchers for the next free s rank to sss in the future
The creepy umbrella girl?
looks like i dont need to get her on standard?
yep
SSS scire or SSS empy after Lilith is still an option
is lucia CA powercrept
Can ignore empy if u think it's already too late
ye by nanami
After that, u can consider sss cw tbh
sss scire? hmmm
She has potential to be used in umbrasurge team still
Are any of these units NOT powercrept 
yeah and lilith is free +20 shards so you dont even have to pull (unless you want like sss or smth)
CA?
Can be changed based on who we will get after dmc
i mean ca is still powercrept by solacetune
maybe he is talking about abys
If it's dark tank, it's poof
alpha
lucia ca is crazy
oo i was really wanting to use feral, can I grab Luna oblivion and then use feral next patch with her and Watanabe
yea i wont
gaiz is lucia abystigma powercrept
free lightning team nxt patch
whos Lucia abystigma
fair point hmm, how much of an impact is it between sss scire vs. sss cw
sure
thats a solid team for her until you get ishmael
wym
free cw free feral
free cw + cub + sig and free feral
who does ishmael replace
no shes meta and her teammate is n9+10 uncontrolled
SSS scire helps both dark team with lilith, and potentially nana for shred until u get sss cw
nobody theree just isnt a void amp/tank rn
none
RAGHHHH
every attacker before selena physical basically
Based on dark team performance from next patch, u could skip SSS scire tbh
none
Especially if you're still far from sss
ish can be filler amp ig
wait so whats the ideal team for feral and luna, whose the ideal 3rd teammate
who wants to replace ishmael she eat balls 
ideal is luna watanabe ishmael
where liv
feral goes on lightning team
Are you trying to tell me feral is already powercrept not even a year into her release
That's not how it works
no
so are these not accurate
mb i was just going off of memory
whats her best team
feral is lightning team
who let bro in the kitchen
so sss lilith > sss cw, i got scire ss3 already so not too biggie
yeah she just goes on a diff team
run kaleido for sss0 ishmael
lilith if not
Don't ever trust in game recommendations 
Basically nana ss3 is like 20% dmg increase right
just wait
Luna from base banner
Ishmale releases next patch
Vera releases in future
U can technically use both Ishmael and Lilith from next patch for Luna teammate
(you can use any other amplifier instead of vera)
Well thats what im confused about, theres like 10 meta team comps and as a new player I have to plan who to pull, do i just hyperfocus on one team, like for example I really want feral so do I only look at lightning
You make all teams
dont think
Yes but thats incredibly unreasonable as a newcomer
you can get all of them for free as f2p
do not vertical invest in this game
Pull the debut Character and start building team from there
That simple
U don't have options to get other characters
even Ice team
2/3 characters are free in dorms
There's no 100% rate up rerun bannee
Hyper investing in one team won't do you much good
U gonna gamble 70% rerun banner and likely to lose
just pray anniv banner has the one you're looking for 
right now just focus on getting more characters then start filling in the gaps later
for now luna is the best character you can get from that banner
and you will get characters for the lightning team free soon
obvlivion yea
Even with annniv I doubt he'll have the black cards for it
not laurel
Just get the latest unit and call it a day
but isnt aniv banner is nightmare for him too?
since new selena will come
When is anniv banner?
you might not have enough bc
yes the void attacker luna oblivion
esp per patch you get a limited ammount of bc as f2p
whales they can just spend thousands
when even is next patch, like how long
u dont have characters to skip like nanamech ~~ and scire~~
anymore
likely anniv wont be touched unless ur paying a good amount
17 days
17 days with no feral, how will i survive
alisa off element
By being patient
my light team doesn't even have feral
just randomly get her off standard after oblivion true
I haven’t played in like a year. Is SSS A2 still good lol?
Okay so pull luna, pull Lucia, and build the fire and void team up from there
Get feral for free next patch and build lightning team from that
and my main dps is nanaknight
Good but not as powerful as current meta units
basically
after lucia if you still have pulls try for nanami before ishmael comes out
pull oblivion, get lucia pyroath and nanami startrail
those 3 are gonna be helpfull later on
I can get them all as a level 41?
banner reset is in next patch
if im new as you i prefer go nanami instead lucia
well you wont be 41 for very long
just play the game and make sure to do weeklies before they reset monday
bro i got nana and pyroath (without sig) and i have 12k basic tickets
since nanami team with feral and cw which is free nxt patch
I was hoping to save for dmc collab. Do you have any suggestions on saving. Or pulling anything? I’m a pretty big alpha fan or the male dps characters
U can just use A ranks for those character until u get more character in future patches
Pyroath, Bridget, Sophia
Startrail, Chrome arclight, Liv Lux
Oblivion, no.21, teddy
who to pick
optimally get both
which s rank should i choose from the basic ticket
When does Crimson Weave come out
any
all are irrelevant so pick whatever you want
before feral
doesnt 21 need to be like sss to actually buff at all or am I going crazy
Anything work, that selector has been a thing since game release on global that's years ago
No
luna oblivion
Shes next banner?
cw has alr came out
it's that she's
free
next patch
SSS good for shred, but Any rank already work
i see
**also. you don't need her **
The acronyms are confusing me sorry
crimson weave is an old character that is free in the next patch she is part of the lightning team with nanami and feral
this
@dapper skiff hai pls answer this 
gotcha
also i'd like to add
minimum requirement for cw to be in the team is sss and leap
WAit liliith is free?
Yeah
Goddamn how many free units are they handing out
Ye
if cw is still ss without leap don't even bother
I mean I did say u only need 15k for Ishmael next patch
Like 3
Not more than that
Is next patch anniv or something
no
No
they just like to hand out free S ranks?
That just how Pgr usually roll
also about luna if you are still confused
the banner you are trying to get oblivion resets in a few weeks, so luna is the strongest character you are able to get right now and is why people are recommending her to you @summer copper
15k + 7.5k for sig 
I guess
whats the team for luna oblivion? any A rank suitable for her?
teddy and no21
n21, teddy for budget
So right now do I just work on story, im at 4-3 rn
get into 9 or 10
yes
note that lilith also isnt like the other free debut S ranks
instead of getting just her u get her + 20 shards + cub + sig
thats why shes the GOAT
not only character with their weapon and cubs too
Yeah
i forgor if she's sub or main dps
sheesh
Free Lilith comes with free 6* sig and cub too
yeah 1-8 is a bit of a slog but it picks up from there
She does better dmg than lamia, so main dps
nvm main dps
so go rant about hoyo since you pfp is tingyun 
main in dark cuz she does more dmg than feesh 
In fake ascension do I need to complete the normal mode too or just the explore mode
fish is absolutely dying
in ion shes enabler/buffer
i thought we were getting cw sig and cub and not lilith sig (maybe cub tho? its been a bit since i saw the announcement)
both
Lamia is drowning in meta 
are these positionings right, i barely used nihil lmao
We get both
*gasping for air
oh damn
hell yeah
To unlock ch 14? Neither. You need to complete echo aria (ex-04) chapter
battle pass sadness
The free cw isn't really useful 
feral bp 
the difference is even if they give u cw+sig+cub for free if she isnt SSS you still wouldnt want to use her LOL
useful as qte bot
i mean maybe worth i still dont have feral sig and lightning is my most invested team
usefull for sss
(still sub dps)
not even, instead of using her as a qte bot just use another amp/tank
I'd rather have feral sig than Cw sig
is this still a good team to use or should I open the selectors I got
no complaining about the free resonance
And they intentionally lock the useful things (feral sig) behind paywall
What's the point of cw herself and sig 
Umbra
Kuro truly knows their player and how to abooz them
sig is for resonance duh
sig is +1 reso


its perfectly fine for story
you do know we're getting 2 reso usb and 1 cw sig
I need feral sig 
and i have a spare cw sig cause i offrated on pyroath sig
Should I reroll?
I want to save for dmc
and another usb
I'm new
run lingya for ur qte bots
can scrap wolf & squid for future cubs
Why would you reroll?
yea reroll until you get the banner characters rn from fate in the 1st 10 pull
can someone pin a big sticker that says don't reroll in this game or something
should i use these or hold onto them, or are they useless s ranks
Ohh extra 2?
how many people are saving for dmc atp 
How can you even save for dmc without meta units?
it's infested
literally everyone
Lol
so one one saving for lucia wedding now 
i'd rather swipe bro
Because if u reroll for a specific good thing
That will boost ur game by a lot
By then I will have way more resources
i am NOT saving that much
You can't clear end game content so how can you save for dmc 
Is she that good?
ppl gonna be surprised when vergil and donate are unuseable without solacetune and nana 
I see
I guess i should reroll too
true
i might have to drop a couple hundred if i can find the money tbh
this game is one of the few I actually spend on
Uh I played DMC for years
yes
if ur rerolling anyway thats what u want to do
Ye ppl gonna realize 2 attackers are useless 
its not gonna have that big of a boost
unless u got both lucia & nanami early
Or should I just save the rolls?
I'd rather have 2 tanks instead 
cool but a heads up
the collab characters are probably not gonna be meta 
What would u recommend?
I want to save for dmc
And I'm new
To get early characters
Pull on fate banner
rerolling takes forever and you can basically guarantee the characters on banner if you just play the gamee enough rn
wait i just got a free vanguard camu crocotta, wait idk what's he for again ?
wait is he op
NANIII ?
It is what it is then
Fodder frame 
fodder
Well I've wasted a lot of resources on this
one thing i know is you cant play this game if you're a simp
So I'm not sure about that
if u dont care about this game aside from dmc u can save and do that
if u want to actually play the game with meta then get currency and pull all new S ranks
heavily reliant on meta
i mean the nier crossover was meta for a bit right
I still see nier topping some leaderboards
just play normally until geiravor
shes skippable anw
Pgr x bayonetta when ?
no meta = no skulls = no future = bricked
Why do those cw simp still exist then? 
you must be new
camu can be used in advanced ppc
So, play normally and don't need to summon?
yea i refuse to play dood character but i play pgr i pull dood since they are needed
are u sure she's skippable
They won't be playable at base S 
guess im quitting then
Without summoning?
Vera
ishmael
if ur going the "just dmc" route yea sure
Is hot
but don't you need ss3?
What skip? 
but you will lose a lot of resources
Wdym? I need more than a name of a character.
no?
i don't get fodder :/ i suppsed he's old
Won't she be used in fire team
missinformed then (me)
i thought ishmael was good at ss0
Do I still have time tho if I get the fate char and save for dmc
eat balls
Tbh
You need SSS ishmale to perform optimally 
Are dmc char s or a and are they future proof or just play them alittle and that's it what element and affix ?
yeah dmc wont be until august
you got a few months you will be fine either way
its just half true
If u take to much piority on ur simping is the problem.
yes
but its not too much of an upgrade compared to current fire
might as well just save 15k
Can ishmael even outperform my SSS r1 wanshi?
So u recommend aiming for the fate banner char?
kinda funny ult is meant for finisher moves of some sort yet in pgr we just spam them 
ishmael ss0 gets the same buffs anyway
wait so i should consider camu or just ignore him ?
i don understand :/
Do I aim who?
What fate char ?
if ur rerolling yea
get pyroath and startrail
The fate banner earlier someone mentioned
don't pull fate unless you plan to reroll
startrail and pyroath are both strong dps charas rn
Current banners
ignore him 
Oooh.
hey, @turbid bridge, sorry for the ping, but what do you think about this?
alr
Pyroath and Nanami Startrail
i think on mobile it works, dunno why pc tweakin forever
they are planning to reroll thats why i said just pull fate 
Fate like the 80 to 100 pity
Both of them? ?
yes
isnt that the basic knowledge for rerolling reroll on limited character
yeah ive tried it on mobile it works but its still so slow xd
They getting 🧱
You're trying to say that Ishmael can be used in fire team? Or I just don't understand what you said here.
In 10 rolls or?
what
BROTHER THAT IS SO LONG AGO
Should i reroll even tho i have all the latest char ?
preferrably
so that tweak is forever tweakin no more fix for that
reroll as in create a new account 
Nah bro that's next to impossible 
u run ishmael exactly like how empyrea is used currently
Yup
Is that even possible ;-;
Ur replying to a TEXT FROM LAST YEAR
considering 32x speed takes a few seconds does that mean 1x speed sits on each frame of dialogue for a full minute and a half
1.5% chance
per character
Do it
what do you mean long ago, that was barely yesterday u was talkin about ur comment bruh?1
Believe in fate
It'll reward you greatly
me and my single early character ever believes



